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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
I noticed that Telson Gabbard used the term democratic republic
to refer to America, which is obviously more correct than
calling us a democracy like everyone seems to be screaming
about all the time, especially on the left. I appreciate
that she said that she was right.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I want to back up what she was saying just
a little bit before I move on to kind of
a more detail about what she said. But the question
that I want to put on the table right now is,
I know that there are people with pitchforks and torches,

(00:42):
and they're ready to fly to Hawaii or Martha's vineyard
or Colorama in DC wherever they think Barack Obama is
currently hiding and dragging him out and tar and featheremond
take him into a federal courthouse in front of a

(01:04):
real federal judge and have him charged with a crime.
I would remind you that the United States Supreme Court
has ruled that most things that a president does within
the confines of his duty as a president are immune

(01:26):
from prosecution, even if in another world or outside of
the White House, those same or similar type of activities
might be considered criminal. Is it within a president's prerogative

(01:48):
to say, I want this report changed. I want us
to rely on this narrative. I want us to create
a narrative based on some intelligence. Now, there's no evidence
that Barack Obama directly knew of the Steel dossier that

(02:08):
was used as the foundational intel to create this false narrative.
But even if he did, are you entitled to the intel,
to the intel that the CIA wants to give you.

(02:29):
Are you entitled to the seat into the intaeil that
you want the CIA to give you. It's all within
part of his presidential duties. I don't think you're going
to see Barack Obama frog marched, and as I've said before,
I don't think we should, and I don't think Donald
Trump would advocate for it. Brennan Clapper, the rest of them, Yes, Presidents,

(02:57):
I think that, And I know many of you will
disagree with me about this, and that's fine. Here's something
we can't agree upon. As I've said throughout the entirety
of Barack Obama's presidency, I despise the man. I don't
know him personally. He's one of the few presidents a
few presidents, but he's one of the presidents that during

(03:19):
my lifetime I had no contact with whatsoever. I don't
think that I ever remember seeing him as a US
senator at all, even when there were disasters or things
going on in Illinois. He was a wall, totally a wall.
But I despised his policies. I despised him from the

(03:43):
day that he said that he wanted to fundamentally transform
this country. I despise that family. From the day that
Michelle Obama said that Brock believes that we're going to
have to, you know, forget our history. No, in fact,
we need to remember our history. We need to study
and really know our history. But they want us to
forget it. Pure unadulterated Marxism, pure unadulterated communism, which is

(04:07):
what I believe that he is raised by a Communist
step dad, or maybe that was his real dad, who knows.
But this idea of imprisoning our leaders really takes us
down a road of tyranny. And the abuse has to stop,

(04:28):
and at some point the person either that's been abused
has to stop. That continuation of the abuse. Well, we
have to let it discontinue, and it's got to stop.
It's got to stop. And even if he were indicted
I think it'd be thrown out by the Supreme Court

(04:49):
rightfully so. But that doesn't mean we can't go after
the other wrongdoers. It doesn't mean we can't hold people accountable.
I think we should.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Oh how President Obama and his national security team directed
the creation of an intelligence.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Cooper Obama and his national security team directed the creation of.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Intelligence community assessment that they knew was false. They knew
it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in
the twenty sixteen election to help President.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Neil This is a great point.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Let's not gloss over it, because I'm sure there's some
of you that there's still pissed off about what I
just said. What if Obama said, hey, let's create some
false intelligence in order to plant it to misdirect the
Russians or the Chinese or anybody else that's our enemy,
you know, some alien creature somewhere to think that we

(05:47):
believe X when we really know why why? But we
want them to believe that we think it's X. That's
perfectly legitimate, in my opinion, create a false narrative to
miss lead your Let's let you know, let's create some
false intel that things that we're not going to do
anything if Russia invade Ukraine. Well, the dummy in chief

(06:12):
at that time actually kind of did that. Well, it's
just a minor incursion.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Trump when selling it to the American people as though
it were true, it wasn't. The report that we released
today shows in great detail how they carried this out.
They manufactured findings from shoddy sources, They suppressed evidence and
credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional

(06:38):
trade craft intelligence community standards, and withheld the truth from
the American people. In doing so, they conspired to subvert
the will of the American people who elected Donald Trump
in that election in November of twenty sixteen. They worked
with their partners in the media to promote this lie,
ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump and launching

(07:00):
what would be a year's long coup against him and
his administration. We're here today because the American people deserve
the truth, they deserve accountability, and they deserve justice.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And indeed, we do probably even more explosives.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I think, going back to Hillary for a moment, is
that we have confirmation now that at least as of
September twenty sixteen, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, the SVR
that I referred to earlier. The SVR, they had DNC
information in the form of emails. And what a trove

(07:42):
of dirt on Clinton and the Obamas that the Ruskies had.
Quote President Obama and party leaders found the state of
Secretary Clinton's health to be extraordinarily alarming and felt it
could have quote serious negative impact on her election prospects.

(08:09):
Have you thought about how ironic that statement is, because Obama,
who was still in charge in twenty twenty four, faced
exactly that same situation. Yes, he had a president that
in fact, I would go back to twenty twenty. He

(08:30):
knew he had the same problem in twenty twenty. He
probably knew that time in twenty twenty that Biden did
not have the mental capacity to be president. And then
he knew in twenty twenty four, he knew that he
had a candidate as the so called head of the
Democrat Party. He had a candidate that was in the

(08:50):
running and like the well, had the nomination, had the
nomination sewn up, but had health problems were extraordinarily alarming
to quote the SVR, and could have a quote serious
negative impact to quote. The SVR about Hillary Clinton could
be said the exact same thing about Joe Biden. Continues quote.

(09:16):
Her health information was being kept strict to secrecy and
even close advisors were not being fully informed. The SVR
also had information that Clinton suffered from type two diabetes,
a schemic heart disease, deep vein thrombosis, and chronic obstructive
pulmonary disease.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
But then Oh Tulsi had more.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, their high level DNC emails that
detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
I'm construed.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I love that her psychically emotional problems. She was a witch, Yeah, with.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
The b trald fits of anger, aggression and cheerful and
that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regiment
of heavy tranquilizers, then CIA director.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Of course, as I said earlier, we saw that with
our own eyes on September eleventh, twenty sixteen, when she
was propped up against that ballard before they shoved her
in less as one of you said, like a side
of beef into that SUV. Now, there are a lot
of different villains in this Russia Gate hoax, and it

(10:31):
is I think the second or the first, the largest
or the second largest scandal in US history? What would
be the other one all the four years of the
Biden administration? And sitting at the top of that scandal
is Christopher Steele, the author of the infamous dossier.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
That bears his name.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
The Congressionary, I believe is a absolutely necessary reminder about
what a low life Steel was and is still to
this day. Do you know that Steel still has an
ex account? Last week he tweeted this quote. Trump is

(11:19):
clearly worried about the Epstein files and so gaslighting with
false claims about the Russia investigation. If the Steel dot
this is stell, this is still Christopher Steel posting. If
the Steele dossier was fake, why did he fail every
time he tried to sue us? And he's still in

(11:42):
breach of the United Kingdom High Court costs order ordered
against him. You think maybe the British Prime Minister has
told the court to back off.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Despite all of the assurances back in the day from
Brennan and FBI Director James Comy, Director of National Intelligence
Glaane James Clapper, despite all their assurances that the dossier
didn't have any role in the creation of the intelligence assessment.

(12:19):
The report again demonstrates that they all knowingly lied. You know,
if you want to find a crime, they at least
lied to Congress. If lying to the American people's not
a crime, they lied to Congress, and that's a crime.
At least the DOJ could prosecute them for that, and
then even but take it one step further. Some CIA

(12:42):
officer specifically objected to using the dossier in any manner
in the intelligence assessment quote. The senior analysts also addressed
the dossier's poor sourcing, noting that we were trying to
determine who the Steel sub sources were. The question is
who are these people? Are they credible? I'm not comfortable

(13:04):
that we don't know that this got to steal. You
don't know how it got to steal. Well, you don't
know how it got steal because they wouldn't tell you that. Oh,
it was actually being funded by the DNC and the
Clinton campaign.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Last night, I was.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Watching Brett Behar on Whatever's I forget what his show's called,
and he had he did some flashbacks of his interview
with James Comy, and during those interviews, Brett Behar said
to James Comy, why did you use the Steele dossier

(13:44):
when you know it was funded by the Democrats and
the Clinton campaign.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
And Comy acted surprise, like.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
What do you mean it was originally it was originally
funded by the Republicans And Bear handed him his hat
and said, no, that's not true.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
The some group of.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Republicans originally went to Fusion GPS and wanted to do
some OPO search on Clinton and others, but they never
did it. Then the DNC went to Fusion GPS and
Christopher Steele and said, which is what we need, and

(14:29):
that's how they got it. So, even though that was
a flashback, those lies are still floating around out there now.
Despite all these assurances back in the day that came
from Brennan, Komy and Clapper that dossier didn't play any
role in the creation of the intelligence assessment, the report

(14:49):
again demonstrates that they all knowingly lied and for their
some ci CIA officers continued to question where did this
come from, what's the sub source? Why do we have
to back this up? Far from from whom the media did,

(15:09):
and stilled to this day referred to as a former
British intelligence officer.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
He may have been decades ago, but what was.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
He at the time At the time that he created
that false document. He was an international lobbyist paid by
Democrat auperaties and was an FBI informant while he was
peddling his bull crap dossier around Washington and New York
in twenty sixteen. In twenty sixteen, Steele was representing a

(15:42):
Russian oligarch, dark Posca, who was in trouble with US government.
That oligarch was forbidden to travel to the United States,
so Steele leveraged his relationship with Bruce or remember his name,
a top Obama deal so Jay official at the time,
and his wife Nelly, who was a subcontractor for Fusion

(16:04):
GPS that was the firm hired by the DNC and
the Clinton campaign to produce the dossier. Well, the Intelligence
Community assessment didn't mention any significant information which indeed was
known to the FBI during the drafting process. This speaks

(16:25):
to source bias and lack of credibility.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Quote.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
According to the FBI agent responsible for obtaining the dossier
and other sources prior to incorporating the dossier into the assessment,
mister Steele told the senior Department of Justice official in
twenty sixteen that he was quote desperate that Donald Trump
not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.

(16:56):
That's in the record. The intelligence community knew it, and
those who didn't know it were questioning, who is this
guy and what's the sub source? That's the background. We
can't put this in between anything about it, and we

(17:18):
often forget that Senator Grassley sent a criminal referral to
the Department of Justice for Christopher Steele in twenty eighteen,
but they never charged him. But speaking of criminal referrals,
this is the other I wouldn't say bombshell, but this

(17:43):
is Tulci Gabbert Dowey prec She knows what her lane is,
she knows what her role is, and she knows what
she can and cannot do.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
This is the.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Next I just like the female brownies without nuts, don't
make me laugh? Can I be very shallow for a.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Moment, just a moment? Why are you starting now? I
mean been doing that for years?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, this is like real shallow. Okay, I'm sitting here
getting ready to play audio from Tulci Gabbard from the
press conference yesterday, and so it's frozen and I'm just looking,
and then I'm going to do another one in a
minute from Caroline Levitt, the Press secretary, and then I

(18:35):
got Donald Trump in Q. As I look at the
three of them, I noticed something unique. Toulci Gabbard. Now
I know that she probably doesn't do this every single day,
but she's dressed to the nines. Caroline Levitt every day

(18:56):
when she comes out, is dressed very classy. And of
course Trump, all though he may wear his ties too long,
he has you know, custom fitted suits, and you know
he has you know, probably you know, expensive nice ties,
and he always looks very professional everybody in this administration.

(19:22):
This shows how leadership informs the culture of an organization
in how people behave, how they act, how they dress,
and that informs.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
How they behave. If you dress like a slob all
the time, you're gonna act like a slob.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I mean, look at me, I dress like a slob
every single day. But I think when when you think
about how classy they look and compare and contrasts that with.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Oh, I don't know, Janet Yellen.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Or Merrick Garland, do you think about how slovenly some
of them looked or doctor Jill Biden, and how she
looked like she, you know, cut up a cheap couch
from I don't know, American furniture and threw that on

(20:22):
and that was her outfit, and she thought it was
really classy, and that got her on the cover of
you know, Mademoiselle or something. But Malanniya addresses to the
nines and she can't get on the cover of Popular Mechanics.
It's just fascinating to me to look at the difference.

(20:44):
Somebody commented to me one time when I showed up
in DC for the first time, so in January of
two thousand and one, and a lifer, someone who had
been in the bureaucracy for I don't know, probably their
entire life. In fact, I know for their entire lifetime

(21:04):
because I'm remembering who it was, made the comment to me, Wow,
I've never seen so many white shirts and French cuffs
in my entire life. Well, yeah, because our boss set
the standard. And I would have never dreamed of showing

(21:25):
up in the White House without a suit on and
a proper tie.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
And everything, even on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
If Bush had called on a Saturday and said I
need you now, I would have thrown on a suit
as quickly as I could and gone over. Just wouldn't
do it otherwise. That's how much leadership affects the culture
of an organization. So anyway, I said beforehand, speaking of
criminal referrals, thank you and.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Director gab this one is for you.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Do you believe that any of this new and for
me implicates former President Obama and criminal behavior. We have
referred and will continue to refer all of these documents
to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate
the criminal implications of this.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
For even the evident Obama.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Correct The evidence that we have found and that we
have released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing
of this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence
and intelligence that confirm that fact.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Head go ahead or Garbert, thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Just to yeah, that doesn't mean that they will indict Obama.
In fact, I personally don't think that they should. I
think it's a fool's errand to do that. Trump chimed
in yesterday.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
For receiving an interview with Milana after your.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I don't know anything about that. They're going to know
what meet her.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
There's you're general restock to the Deli Nationals attorney.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
Asking, Yeah, I don't know about it, but I think
it's something that would be sounds appropriate to do. You
deal is your former attorney? No, I have no considering
that he's very he's a very talented person, he's very smart.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I didn't know that they were going to do it.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
I don't really follow that too much. It's it's a
sort of a witch hunt, just a continuation of the
witch hunt.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
The witch hunt that you should.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold,
Chelsea Gabbert, what they did to this country in twenty sixteen,
starting in twenty sixteen, but going up all the way
going up to twenty twenty of the election, and they
tried to rig the election. Then they got caught and
there should be very severe consequences for that.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
You know, when we caught Hillary.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
Clinton, I said, you know what, let's not let's not
go too far here. It's the ex wife of a president.
And I thought it was sort of terrible.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I hadn't got that before.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Your wife of a president.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Fantastic?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Is she the ex wife of Baba?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
But the point I wanted to make until you whispered
that in my ear is see even he believes that
there's some limits. Stop the insanity, absolutely, just stop the insanity.
I think one of the more interesting soundbites from yesterday
came from Caroline Leavitt because she lectures the very people

(24:41):
sitting in front of her, maybe in her fore or Caroline,
the President said yesterday that Obama kind of treason, says.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Do you or the White House believe that the Supreme
Court's community decision protects Obama from prosecution?

Speaker 6 (24:56):
But I can speak to the President's feelings on this matter.
He spoke to all of you yesterday in the Oval Office,
but I also spoke to him about this this morning,
and he wants to see all those who perpetuated this
fraud against our country, who betrayed our country and the constitution,
to be thoroughly investigated and held accountable. And it's been

(25:17):
ten years of this and I would just add, based
on everything the Director has said and declassified, all of
you in this room should go through it and take
a look at this report and review the intelligence because
unfortunately that hasn't happened, and many of the people who
perpetuated this hoax. Clapper Andy McCabe, James Comy, and many
others have been hired by major networks in this room

(25:40):
to go on television and continue to spew these.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Lies knowing that they are lies.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
And if you all recall, just flashback to twenty sixteen,
in the years after the entire Trump one presidency was
embroiled in this scandal that was perpetuated by the Democrat Party,
and you had major Democrat Party officials in this city,
namely Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren, who went on
television and told the American people Donald Trump is an

(26:06):
asset of Russia.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
It was a lie.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
They always knew it.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
Hillary Clinton herself said that President Trump would be a
puppet for Putin. Senator Tim Kaine at the time called
President Trump Vladimir Putin's defense lawyer Adam Schiff stated, and
one of the worst things a lawmaker can do is
to tell the American people, I know something you don't know.
It's just classified and I can't tell you. And that's
what he said. I can tell you that the case
is more than that. I can't go into the particulars,

(26:30):
but there is more than circumstantial evidence now, and not
enough people in this room. Not enough journalists in this country,
pushed Adam shiff to say, what are you talking about?
What evidence do you have? Everybody just ran with the lies,
and it led to impeachments. It led to the division
of our country. Unfortunately, so many Americans from listening to

(26:51):
outlets in this room, believed in these lies. And it's
a complete scam, and it's a scandal, and the president
wants to see accountability for that.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Times did she say blah blah blah blah in this
room x y Z in this room, she's calling them out.
She's standing in front of them, which I find glorious
because here she is so somebody they thought they had

(27:19):
finally killed off done, I mean virtually all literally killed off.
Don't have to deal with him anymore. And now he's back,
and you think about what he's doing the Japanese trade deal. Yeah,
the Prime Minister of the President of the Philippines in
yesterday during that little press conference.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's done all of these things so fast.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
So I mean, like we're on borrowed time here, baby,
we got to move, move, move. And I don't know
where he found Caroline Leavitt, but she has she has
blossomed in that role, and she is absolutely calling them out.
They should be embarrassed, although I don't think they have

(28:03):
the capacity to be embarrassed. They ought to be embarrassed
to be sitting in that room listening to what Tulci
Gabrett had to say, knowing that they never questioned any
of it. They took the narrative. They found the useful
idiots in the Elizabeth Warrens and the Adam Shifts and
the Nancy Pelosi's and the Chuck Schumers, and they brought

(28:24):
them on television and they pushed the narrative. They never
asked those who were sitting there with the megaphone amplifying
the narrative, Well, give us the five ws W, where,
when and why? Why do you believe that you tell
us it's classified, Well, why don't you declassify some of it?

(28:45):
Or better yet, why don't you tell us why it
is classified? Start with that premise. Just explain to us
why this is so secret that it has to be classified.
Surely there's something about it that you can tell us
that it's not classified. Oh, oh, it's classified. Guy, Well
I can't even talk about it because it's classified. But
I can tell you is everything that you're hearing is true.

(29:06):
But everything I'm hearing is coming from you. It's like
they're just sitting there with megaphones, point at each other
yelling the same thing. Well, I hear this, this, this,
and this. Well yes, yes, yes, but I can't tell
you the details. Got it's classified. Okay, Well I also
heard this. Well, yeah, that may be true, but I
can't tell you any details because it's classified.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Everybody in that room.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I shouldn't say everybody, because there's some actually good people
in that room. John Gizzey News Max. He's a he's
a great reporter. He's a good friend of mine, too,
full disclosure, but there are some very good people.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
In that room.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Do they take breaks on time?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Do they break break? I'm trying to make up from
you last two days. I don't have time for those
steaking break Mike.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
This doesn't have anything to do with one of your
subjects that you're talking about today, but I just wanted
to tell you I really miss you when you're gone.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh that's sweet.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Wait was that a compliment to you? I didn't mean
to play that one.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, that was really sweet.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
See, and I know I miss you guys, when I'm
gone to I really do.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
I mean, you said that with a straight face, well
almost you started to smile at the and you're smiling
right now.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, but you know as much as I. I mean, Look,
look what I did Tuesday. I was determined to do
the program Tuesday, and then I got in here realize
there's no way now I can do this?

Speaker 1 (30:28):
What was I thinking?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Because I love doing this. I love doing it, and
it really bugs me when I can do it. Everybody
should be as lucky as I am to really love
what they do. If only you had a you know,
somebody that you could work a coworker that wasn't, you know,
such a dirt bag. So the Department of Justice has
weighed in too. Uh. By the way, the link for

(30:53):
these files is up at Michael says go here dot com.
I just checked just to make make sure that Dragon
had done his job, and he had. The link is
but you got to scroll down. It's down below a
couple of videos and it's just a link, but it's
the DNI files and you can click that link and
you can see all these files for yourself.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Were you really questioning whether or not I did my job?

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So?

Speaker 5 (31:19):
The guy who wasn't here for the past two days.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
No.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I was just looking at the text messages and somebody
said would you please post it? And I thought, oh,
because I've had people complain not that things aren't posted,
but they can't find it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
The website's designed very poorly, and I was.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Curious, Okay, what does it take to find it? Now?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
If you just go to Michael says go here dot com,
you'll see across the bottom of the page, you'll see
the different days. If you click on the days, then
you can see the things.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
That Dragon posts.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
But if you just go to that website and don't
make a second clink, cook a second length, and you'll
never find it. It is a horribly designed website which
we have no control over whatsoever. True press release, Wednesday,
July twenty third. Today, DOJ announced the formation of a
strike force to assess the evidence publicized by Director of

(32:18):
National Intelligence Dulci Gabbard and investigate potential next legal steps
which might stem from those disclosures. The Department takes alleged
weaponization of the intel community with the utmost seriousness. Quote,
the Department of Justice is proud to work with my
friend Director Gabbert, and we are grateful for her partnership

(32:40):
in delivering accountability for the American people. We will investigate
these troubling disclosures fully and leave no stone unto
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