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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mariy, Mike or Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, I know what a bugaboo you have with the
media and the weather. I just thought i'd let you
know what I heard this morning. Yet, so now they
report the feels like temperature that's gonna be underneath the
heat dome.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Have a great day, guys.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's good. It's gonna feel like hot. Good. Great.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Actual attemp was gonna be ninety three, but it's gonna
feel like one hundred and four.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Okay, all right, So now instead of like a windshill index,
we've got a heat dome index. Okay, all right, So
is that a combination of just I mean and exactly
how do they calculate that they is there? Is there
like a group of people to go out and they
they you know, go stand out in the parking lot
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for a while and then just tell us what it
feels like.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, that sounds pretty good, all right, Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
The Attorney General of California, Rob Bonnte, acting through the
California Department of Justice, issued a report this was last week,
it was last Friday, determining that microstamping technology is technologically viable.
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Now he did this report that first of all, micro
stamping technology.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What are we talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's a technology where a firearms firing pin or another
component is engraved with the unique microscopic array of characters.
It's a micro stamp, and that you know, imagine if
you will, a QR code. It identifies the firearms serial number.
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So when the gun is fired, that microstamp is imprinted
on at least one location of the expended cartridge casing. Now,
the argument is that that could potentially aid law enforcement
in tracing spent casings from crime scenes back to a
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particular firearm. The technology is aimed to enhance crime solving
by providing some sort of forensic lead, even if only
partial imprints are transferred, because you could at least analyze
using some sort of tools like you know, scanning electron microscopes.
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So he released a report that said that microstamping that
kind of technology is technologically viable. He had to make
that determination under California Penal Code Section twenty seven five
thirty two because that mandated an investigation into the viability
of micro stamping components that was due by March one,
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twenty twenty five, but obviously came in late. The report
was informed by stakeholder consultations, academic studies, and recent life
fire tests, including one conducted by the Department of Justice
in February of this year. Now, the findings from the
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Department of Justice included this three things. Microstamping components engraved
firing pins, for example, can reliably transfer identifiable information to
cartridge casings even after repeated firing. Studies and tests number one.
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Number two studies and tests demonstrated consistent performance, and with
advanced imaging techniques, you can actually improve the readability of
the microstamping.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And then the third thing DOJ determined.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Is that the technology is deemed viable for semi automatic pistols,
So that meets the statutory criteria under Penal Code Section
twenty seven five point thirty two of the California Penal Code.
Now it's not a court ruling, it's an administrative determination
based on a internal investigation, fulfilling of legislative mandate from
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Senate Bill four fifty two passed back in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Where do you think this is going to go to?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
So, the determination made by the California Attorney General, in
conjunction with both the California Department of Justice and the
US Department of Justice is going to affect firearm sales,
not ammunition purchases, directly under Senate built four fifty two.
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Starting this is California Senate built four fifty two. Starting
January one, twenty twenty eight, licensed firearms dealers in California
will be prohibited from selling or transferring new semi autom
medic pistols that are not micro stamping enabled. In other words,
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they have to be equipped with components that imprint a
micro stamp on a carfee casing. Now, that requirement is
contingent on two certifications by the Department of Justice. Those
two are one the technological viability of micro stamping components,
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which has now been certified as of July eighteenth, and
to the commercial availability of those components or micro stamping
enabled firearms that has to be determined by July one
of next year, not actually twenty twenty seven, I think.
Now there are some exceptions pistols manufacturer delivered before twenty
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twenty eight, private party transfers through dealers, and there are
a few other cases, but the DOJ must issue performance
standards by September one of twenty twenty five. Again, California
not federal and then begin licensing applications for micro stamping
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products by January one of twenty twenty six, and then
of course California is going to provide grants for production
of the micro stamping equipment by July one of twenty
twenty six. So for AMMO pur purchases, I can't find
that there are any changes semming from this micro stamping determination.
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Micro Stamping applies to how firearms interact with AMMO during firing,
in other words, imprinting on the casings, but it does
not impose new requirements on buying AMMO itself. California's existing
ammunition purchase rules. All this comes from Proposition sixty three
back I think almost nine years ago, now implemented I
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think in twenty nineteen, generally require buyers to be at
least eighteen or twenty one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
For handgun AMMO, you've got to.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Provide id undergo a background check a less example, like
you've got a valid hunting license or you've got a
certain particular firearm safety certificate. But those rules are separate,
unaffected by the micro stamping report. So what's the effect
of all of this on background checks for AMMO purchases?
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Because that's what California is doing. I don't think that
the Attorney General's micro stamping determination has it doesn't have
any effect on background checks for AMMO purchases because the
report does not address or modify the requirements. That said,
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in a separate development, on July twenty one, yesterday, the
US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled in
a case titled Road versus Bonta that California's AMMO background
check law violates the Second Amendment. The Ninth Circuit of
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all places upheld that California's AMMO backcrown check violates the
Second Amendment. They upheld the lower court's injunction, and they
strike the Ninth Circuit struck down that requirement. Now, this
core really means that at least as of now, background
checks are no longer required for buying ammunition in California.
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So that's obviously going to simplify the process for eligible buyers,
although the state obviously is probably going to appeal to
the US Supreme Court and trying to get further review.
This AMO specific ruling, however, is unrelated to the micro
stamping report. So what the reason I wanted to tell
you this is you're going to be started hearing stories
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from uh, you know, the NRA, from the reload staff,
from others that you know, this is great news, but
micro stamping is moving forward and that somehow that's going
to still require that you have background checks for AMMO purchases.
I don't believe that it does. But I do believe
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based on everything that I can find, is that California
is moving forward with micro stamping. Now I think that
will eventually be subject to some sort of probably already
is subject litigation. I just didn't dig that far into it,
but it's it's got to be subject litigation because that
means that a it's just like California's auto emissions rules.
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So you're manufacturing cults or six or glocks or whatever
it is, and you're selling those guns worldwide through through distributors.
That means in your manufacturing process, if there's a chance
that any firearm that you manufacture is going to be
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sold in California is going to have to meet the
micro stamping requirement, which means that block sig sur h K,
any of the other any of the others manufacturing of
handguns are going to have to start putting the micro
stamping UH technology in in their firearms just in case
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one is sold in California or otherwise. You're gonna have to,
you know, which is going to be mean that the
cost is going to be prohibitively expensive. You're going to
have to create a separate manufacturing line for a limited
number of your handguns. Let's just pick glock for example.
So you're gonna, you know, a glock nine millimeters, what
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you know, whatever model, just a glock nine milimeter. You
have one manufacturing line four Blocks sold in forty nine
states and X number of countries all over the world,
or maybe even a separate line for law enforcement. Because
I'm not really sure this is going to apply to
law enforcement handguns. May or may not. It's not quite
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clear by the stories. Block's not going to do that.
Block's not going to create a separate manufacturing line for
guns sold. I don't know how many guns Block sells.
Let's just say they sell a bazillion handguns. So for
a bazillion handguns, and out of a bazillion, you sell
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one million in California, you're gonna take a manufacturing line
and make a subset of that for one million guns.
No of course, you're not gonna do it any more
than an auto manufacturer. It says, Okay, we sell a
bazillion car worldwide, we sell a bazillion cars in all
you know, fifty seven states, but for that one state
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of California, we're going to create a separate manufacturing line. No,
they're not going to do that. It's just going to
be easier and cheaper, more cost effective to comply with
the standard set by California for auto emissions on just
all manufacturing. So California has in essence become the superpower
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that is imposing these restrictions, these requirements not just in automobiles,
but now on guns.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I would slightly counter your argument with if we take
a look at Coca Cola, where they do hi fractose
corn syrup here in the United States, but they use
real sugar down in Mexico. So they do have multiple
plants distributing in creating multiple types of the same product.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So maybe there is what they have, but that's because.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
They have a separate manufacturing a bottling plant Mexico versus
dozens of bottling plants in the US.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I mean, it could it could happen that this gun
manufacturing plant that one will be for California. Well, the
other a dozen and a half that goes everybody else.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
So I would make the argument that so what your
argument is to make it analogous to Mexico is that's
built glock and HK. Every gun manufacturer would then establish
their own manufacturing unit in California just to sell the
guns in California.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That doesn't have to be in California, but it could
be made elsewhere and then only sold in California.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Right, But I'm just saying that that's an entire separate line.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Could be Coca Cola does it. Yeah, but Coca Cola.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Is selling something that doesn't require the type of manufacturing process.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That a gun or a I mean, it's not quite
as intricate, for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah it's not. It's not nearly it's intricate, you Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The only difference different facturing process.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You've got the same process.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
It's just that when you when the bottles go through
or the the mix is being put together, rather than
high fruit toased corn syrup, you're going to insert instead
cane sugar.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
That's the only difference. So you still have the same components,
just the input for a particular component is going to
be instead of uh, same thing, high fruit toast, corn syrup,
it's going to be cane sugar.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Same thing for a little micro stamp, it's the firearm
is exactly the same, just this one little bit stamp.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
So, so think about the complication though, of splitting that line,
because over here you've you've put and I don't know
the process by which they manufacture a gun, like like
you know, piece by piece, What in what order do
they manufacture the pieces and then how do they feed
those into the assembly line to actually put them together
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then spit it out at the end, And I'm not
quite sure how that goes.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Do you have a couple of interesting text message saying
basically the same thing. If I bought a gun that
had micro stamping on the firing pin, it sure is
a good thing that neither I nor anybody else know
that I know have a dremal tool that can polish
that off in under fifteen seconds.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Which I wondered about because I thought, okay, if you have,
but somehow I.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Guess I would worry.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I would worry about if
there's some micro stamping ability on the firing pin.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Firing pin is pretty important.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That I probably shouldn't want to mess with those properly.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, it's not like I wanted to take a drimmal
tool and start drilling on the firing pin and then
go out and expect to use that in a the.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Thing that causes the explosion right in my hand. Yes, right,
let's go ahead and play with that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Let me just take the good a partner.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Let me just take a Phillips screwdriver and just kind
of hammer into.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That pen to kind of scar up that micro stamp.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Of course, then again, if no other state is enforcing
the micro stamping, although I guess they could still use it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I mean even though they even though even though.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
It's not required in Colorado, you could still use that
technology to trace it back because they're all going to
have that micro stamping on it. The point is California
still drive California's still driving the train here, and it
just pisses me off. The California's driving the train. They're
driving the train on automobiles, they're driving the train on
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UH emission standards, and not just for cars, but for
virtually everything. They're driving the standards for everything stop it
that that seems to me to be a violation of
the commerce clause. But you know what do I know anyway?
Just be aware that the Ninth Circuit has thrown out
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the background check for AMMO purchasing, but the micro stamping
is moving forward.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yay.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
California gun manufacturers already make California compliance models to deal
with their various regulations.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Seriously, I'm not aware of that. I confess total ignorance
on that. So I can buy a particular HK model
that is available in.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That would be.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Wait a minute, that complies Play that again, Dragon, I
want to hear what. I want to make sure understood
what he said.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Gun manufacturers already make California compliant models to deal with
their various regulations.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So are those California compliant models the same as models
sold in other states? So do they just make all
the guns compliant with California and then they just sell
the guns everywhere? It doesn't make any difference because there
are a lot of other things that you can go
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to almost any manufacture of parts, supplies or anything that
are you know, not available or not for sale in California.
So I'm I want to know if you mean all
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the they make all of them in compliance with California,
or they do have a separate manufacturing line and they
just they stop the line and then they alter the
line and do assemblies just for California.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And specific California plants.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah, Or is there a specific California plant, which I
doubt there is, cause I don't think that, for example,
that HK or Glock has a plant in California, but
I'd have to double check that. Anyway, that's interesting. I'll
try to track that down, or you could be helpful
and send me a link to that somewhere. I want
to go to Bondani for a minute, but for a
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specific reason. This whole concept of socialism has been creeping
in progressive Democrat Marxist politics since the days of Woodrow
Wilson FDR LBJ. It's just carried forward for that matter,
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George W. Bush. The idea of giving people something for nothing,
when indeed it has to come from somewhere. You have
nothing is free. You've got to pay for something somewhere.
Even if you're borrowing the money to pay for that
something through deficit spending, it's still not free. Even though
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you've you know, people think well, I put it on
the credit card. It didn't cost me anything. Well, yeah,
did you still got to make that minimum payment on
the credit card. New York is a great example of
how in order to compete with Mandani, they're now trying
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to outbid him. But let's back up for a moment,
and let's establish the baseline first. I want you to
think about the utterly fantastical fantasy land that he lives in.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
I worked until January and then I took time away
from my job. And one of the major reasons I
could do so is because I knew that if I
ran out of my savings, my family would be able
to support me. I worked until January and then I
took time away from my job, and one of the
major reasons I could do so is because I knew
that if I ran out of my savings, my family
would be able to support me.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh, my family would be able to support me.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
So you know, I could keep spending other people's money,
but when I run out, there'll be somebody to support me.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So when you run out of every other producer's.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Money, you know, the all these workers out here, they're
busting their butts today going to work that are producing
the taxes that are going to support all of your programs.
When they finally just give up, they retire, they quit,
they die, They realize why am I doing this? I
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can get it for free? And they saw they run
over to your side, to the political spectrum. Then who's
going to backfill that? Who's going to pay for that?
This is the same guy that said that while he
has his family money to rely on.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
My platform is that every single person should have housed.
And I think faced with these two options, the system,
the system has hundreds of thousands of people unhoused right
for for what? And if if there was any system
that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it
the abolition of private property or you call it, you know,
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just a state white housing guarantee, it is preferable to
what is going on right now.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Oh so just eliminate private property or we'll just have
you know, state white housing. We'll just have you know,
the government will just provide you housing. So what is
happening in the New York City race. Well, he's declared that,
you know, housing ought to be free, Buses will be free,
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child care will be free, rent will be frozen. The
government run grocery stores. They're gonna you know, they're gonna
light up the crime riddled horizon, the government run grocery stores. Yeah,
what he means is only five loaves of bread left.
I'm taking four of them. I went all five of
them because I can sell those in the black market
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and make money. So yeah, they'll just become crime infested
hell holes. Well, I think current Mayor Eric Adams, who's
now running is an independent, must have seen that laundry
list of free stuff for New Yorkers.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And he spotted some missing items.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
In a press conference yesterday, Adams was joined by the
city's Office of Housing, Preservation and Development to announce their
new h three point two five Let me back up,
to announce their new free wife five to low income
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New Yorkers that are living in thirty five different government
subsidized housing buildings. So it's free Wi Fi. But interestingly,
he also announced that they're going to spend three point
twenty five million dollars to provide that free Wi Fi,
proving my point that there's no there is nothing free,
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he said, And I quote Liberty Link, which I guess
is the ISP. Liberty Link will deliver free and low
cost internet to more than two thousand households across the
Bronx and Upper Manhattan to bring today, we're bringing Section
eight online.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We're bringing Section eight housing online.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
We're going to deliver free and low cost internet at
a cost of three point twenty five million dollars?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Do you get the incongruence in what he's saying? Then
he walked over Eric Adams Day.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
He walked over to a four foot gray box with
three light bulbs protruding from its front. He flipped a switch.
This is hilarious to watch. He flipped a switch on
the back and it lit up and it made the
same sound as a pinball machine. Adam Zien went back
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to the podium and said, nothing like a good prop
What the hell was that? Hey, we're going to give
free Wi Fi to people living in Section eight housing
in parts of the Bronx and Manhattan. Well why not
give it to everybody? Why just then? And oh, by
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the way, that free is going to cost taxpayers in
New York three point two five million dollars. And the
company that's doing it, h Liberty Link, apparently isn't willing
to give it to just say, hey, here's our equipment. Here,
here's our fiber or whatever it is. You know, maybe
it's like a starlink or something. I don't know, but here,
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here's here's our equipment. But you're got to pay for it.
And then you're to pay the monthly fee too. So
it's going to cost three point two five million dollars.
And the pinball machine? What what?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
What? What is that? What's that supposed to represent? Now?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
His announcement comes right after he appeared on the podcast
for The New York Post, in which he said that
again that almost all of Mondani's socialist promises are unattainable.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yet here he is doing exactly the damn same same thing.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
He said, and I quote, I truly believe the worst
thing you can do as New Yorkers are struggling, The
worst thing you can do as New Yorkers are struggling
is to make broken promises. Referencing his opponent's promise to
raise income tax for the top one percent of New Yorkers,
he said, and I quote, he can't raise the income tax,
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so he's making these false promises. And then the mayor
stepped back and took a moment to thank Trump for
taking control of the border. When the migrant and asylum
seekers crisis came to the city, we received more than
two hundred and thirty seven thousand migrants, as he calls it.
At its peak, we were receiving four thousand a week.
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He said that he took a lot of trips to
DC to try to convince Biden to send the migrants elsewhere,
and then he went on an interview with Tucker Carlson
back in January and said that Grandpa's Joe's only advice
for him was just to be a good Democrat. Now
back to the press conference, he said, we're now down
to less than one hundred migrant asylum seekers coming into
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our city a week, and that's due to the security
of the border. The Trump administration secured the border, and
because of that, you're not seeing the thousands of people
coming in. And it's been a real relief for our city.
As you stated, it cost us seven point seven billion dollars.
Remember how he was bitching about he couldn't afford it,
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he couldn't afford the seven point seven billion dollars. But
I guess you know you can't afford seven point seven
billion dollars, But you can't afford to pay three point
twenty five million and then.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Call it free. This is how they.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Just continue to try to reword it. But we're in
the bidding war, and people are falling for the bidding war. Now,
Zoran is just real quickly. He's twelve points ahead of Clomo,
who's now running as an independent. He's twenty two points
ahead of Adams, and he's seventeen points ahead of the
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Republican Kurtis Sliwa, the founder of the Guardian Angels, who's
running on the Republican ticket.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So this guy's winning.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And so rather than try to point out how he
can't do those things, they're now bidding to try to
outdo him.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh, he's going to offer you free stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I'll off of you free stuff too, at a cost
of three point two five million dollars.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Michael, like all other manufacturers of products such as lawnmowers,
all the manufacturers make a California compliant model, all of them.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
You say, everyone does. I question that, And it may
be as simple as this, in which case I would say, Okay,
they probably do.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
So.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Agent Jeda just sent me an email about what makes
a pistol California compliant now I'm just gonna take him
as a word. There's no citation here, but.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
He's kind of a gun nut.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
So right, so I've got I've got I've got confidence
in this email. Here's a breakdown of the key aspects
one ross of handgun certified for sale. The handguns must
be tested and certified by the Department of Justice to
be listed on the California Roster. This roster serves as
a list of handguns that meet California's safety standards. So
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what are the manufacturers have to do? They've got to
pay a fee and then submit specific handgun models for
testing to be included on the California Safety standard list.
Here is the second part, the safety testing. The testing
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includes firing six hundred rounds from each of the three
submitted handgun models. There are limits on the number of
malfunctions allowed, no more than six per gun, excluding any
AMMO related issues. The guns undergo drop tests. Each gun
gets dropped six times to check for a THENT discharges.
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The guns must also pass a physical integrity test, ensuring
there are no cracks or breakages that could cause injuries.
In addition to those California rules, all pistols sold in
the state of Massachusetts must have a minimum ten pound
trigger pull force versus the three and a half pounds
for three three to five pounds I should say for
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a normal pistol, which obviously makes them less accurate because
of the stronger force required to get them to discharge. Well,
if that's all they have to do, then there's no
change in the manufacturing process. They randomly pull six guns,
or maybe not randomly. Hey guys, we need six. We
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need six of this model to send a DOJ so
we can sell them in California. Okay, Well, pull out six,
check them ourselves to make sure they're going to comply,
and then ship those off to DOJ so they can
run these. So that you know, and imagine that you've
got the job at DJ, and maybe you do it
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at Klonaco or somewhere who knows where they do it,
but you ship it off to wherever DJ does this testing.
And all you do is you go. You get the
different models, and you you drop them six times, you
fire six hundred rounds. You uh, you know, you check
the pressure on UH to make sure the UH the trigger.
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You got to check the force on the trigger. UH,
inspect it to make sure you know, after you drop
it six times, there's you know, no cracks or anything
done that might make the gun unsafe. And then you
certify it and then they sell it. You don't do
anything back in the manufacturing process. It's any different whatsoever.
It's the same thing. So, yeah, it's in TI, it's it. Well,
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just put it this way. It's a farce. It's a farce, huh.
Having to do that is what a cost of the
manufacturing doing business. So you pay for that in the
ultimate price that you pay for a handgun by any
manufacturer that sells a gun in California. You pay that
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incremental
Mariy, Mike or Michael.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, I know what a bugaboo you have with the
media and the weather. I just thought i'd let you
know what I heard this morning. Yet, so now they
report the feels like temperature that's gonna be underneath the
heat dome.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Have a great day, guys.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's good. It's gonna feel like hot. Good. Great.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Actual attemp was gonna be ninety three, but it's gonna
feel like one hundred and four.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Okay, all right, So now instead of like a windshill index,
we've got a heat dome index. Okay, all right, So
is that a combination of just I mean and exactly
how do they calculate that they is there? Is there
like a group of people to go out and they
they you know, go stand out in the parking lot
(00:48):
for a while and then just tell us what it
feels like.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, that sounds pretty good, all right, Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
The Attorney General of California, Rob Bonnte, acting through the
California Department of Justice, issued a report this was last week,
it was last Friday, determining that microstamping technology is technologically viable.
(01:18):
Now he did this report that first of all, micro
stamping technology.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What are we talking about.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
It's a technology where a firearms firing pin or another
component is engraved with the unique microscopic array of characters.
It's a micro stamp, and that you know, imagine if
you will, a QR code. It identifies the firearms serial number.
(01:48):
So when the gun is fired, that microstamp is imprinted
on at least one location of the expended cartridge casing. Now,
the argument is that that could potentially aid law enforcement
in tracing spent casings from crime scenes back to a
(02:09):
particular firearm. The technology is aimed to enhance crime solving
by providing some sort of forensic lead, even if only
partial imprints are transferred, because you could at least analyze
using some sort of tools like you know, scanning electron microscopes.
(02:31):
So he released a report that said that microstamping that
kind of technology is technologically viable. He had to make
that determination under California Penal Code Section twenty seven five
thirty two because that mandated an investigation into the viability
of micro stamping components that was due by March one,
(02:55):
twenty twenty five, but obviously came in late. The report
was informed by stakeholder consultations, academic studies, and recent life
fire tests, including one conducted by the Department of Justice
in February of this year. Now, the findings from the
(03:15):
Department of Justice included this three things. Microstamping components engraved
firing pins, for example, can reliably transfer identifiable information to
cartridge casings even after repeated firing. Studies and tests number one.
(03:38):
Number two studies and tests demonstrated consistent performance, and with
advanced imaging techniques, you can actually improve the readability of
the microstamping.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And then the third thing DOJ determined.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Is that the technology is deemed viable for semi automatic pistols,
So that meets the statutory criteria under Penal Code Section
twenty seven five point thirty two of the California Penal Code.
Now it's not a court ruling, it's an administrative determination
based on a internal investigation, fulfilling of legislative mandate from
(04:18):
Senate Bill four fifty two passed back in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Where do you think this is going to go to?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
So, the determination made by the California Attorney General, in
conjunction with both the California Department of Justice and the
US Department of Justice is going to affect firearm sales,
not ammunition purchases, directly under Senate built four fifty two.
(04:51):
Starting this is California Senate built four fifty two. Starting
January one, twenty twenty eight, licensed firearms dealers in California
will be prohibited from selling or transferring new semi autom
medic pistols that are not micro stamping enabled. In other words,
(05:12):
they have to be equipped with components that imprint a
micro stamp on a carfee casing. Now, that requirement is
contingent on two certifications by the Department of Justice. Those
two are one the technological viability of micro stamping components,
(05:32):
which has now been certified as of July eighteenth, and
to the commercial availability of those components or micro stamping
enabled firearms that has to be determined by July one
of next year, not actually twenty twenty seven, I think.
Now there are some exceptions pistols manufacturer delivered before twenty
(05:53):
twenty eight, private party transfers through dealers, and there are
a few other cases, but the DOJ must issue performance
standards by September one of twenty twenty five. Again, California
not federal and then begin licensing applications for micro stamping
(06:15):
products by January one of twenty twenty six, and then
of course California is going to provide grants for production
of the micro stamping equipment by July one of twenty
twenty six. So for AMMO pur purchases, I can't find
that there are any changes semming from this micro stamping determination.
(06:37):
Micro Stamping applies to how firearms interact with AMMO during firing,
in other words, imprinting on the casings, but it does
not impose new requirements on buying AMMO itself. California's existing
ammunition purchase rules. All this comes from Proposition sixty three
back I think almost nine years ago, now implemented I
(07:01):
think in twenty nineteen, generally require buyers to be at
least eighteen or twenty one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
For handgun AMMO, you've got to.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Provide id undergo a background check a less example, like
you've got a valid hunting license or you've got a
certain particular firearm safety certificate. But those rules are separate,
unaffected by the micro stamping report. So what's the effect
of all of this on background checks for AMMO purchases?
(07:35):
Because that's what California is doing. I don't think that
the Attorney General's micro stamping determination has it doesn't have
any effect on background checks for AMMO purchases because the
report does not address or modify the requirements. That said,
(07:56):
in a separate development, on July twenty one, yesterday, the
US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled in
a case titled Road versus Bonta that California's AMMO background
check law violates the Second Amendment. The Ninth Circuit of
(08:21):
all places upheld that California's AMMO backcrown check violates the
Second Amendment. They upheld the lower court's injunction, and they
strike the Ninth Circuit struck down that requirement. Now, this
core really means that at least as of now, background
checks are no longer required for buying ammunition in California.
(08:45):
So that's obviously going to simplify the process for eligible buyers,
although the state obviously is probably going to appeal to
the US Supreme Court and trying to get further review.
This AMO specific ruling, however, is unrelated to the micro
stamping report. So what the reason I wanted to tell
you this is you're going to be started hearing stories
(09:08):
from uh, you know, the NRA, from the reload staff,
from others that you know, this is great news, but
micro stamping is moving forward and that somehow that's going
to still require that you have background checks for AMMO purchases.
I don't believe that it does. But I do believe
(09:30):
based on everything that I can find, is that California
is moving forward with micro stamping. Now I think that
will eventually be subject to some sort of probably already
is subject litigation. I just didn't dig that far into it,
but it's it's got to be subject litigation because that
means that a it's just like California's auto emissions rules.
(09:56):
So you're manufacturing cults or six or glocks or whatever
it is, and you're selling those guns worldwide through through distributors.
That means in your manufacturing process, if there's a chance
that any firearm that you manufacture is going to be
(10:18):
sold in California is going to have to meet the
micro stamping requirement, which means that block sig sur h K,
any of the other any of the others manufacturing of
handguns are going to have to start putting the micro
stamping UH technology in in their firearms just in case
(10:40):
one is sold in California or otherwise. You're gonna have to,
you know, which is going to be mean that the
cost is going to be prohibitively expensive. You're going to
have to create a separate manufacturing line for a limited
number of your handguns. Let's just pick glock for example.
So you're gonna, you know, a glock nine millimeters, what
(11:02):
you know, whatever model, just a glock nine milimeter. You
have one manufacturing line four Blocks sold in forty nine
states and X number of countries all over the world,
or maybe even a separate line for law enforcement. Because
I'm not really sure this is going to apply to
law enforcement handguns. May or may not. It's not quite
(11:25):
clear by the stories. Block's not going to do that.
Block's not going to create a separate manufacturing line for
guns sold. I don't know how many guns Block sells.
Let's just say they sell a bazillion handguns. So for
a bazillion handguns, and out of a bazillion, you sell
(11:45):
one million in California, you're gonna take a manufacturing line
and make a subset of that for one million guns.
No of course, you're not gonna do it any more
than an auto manufacturer. It says, Okay, we sell a
bazillion car worldwide, we sell a bazillion cars in all
you know, fifty seven states, but for that one state
(12:05):
of California, we're going to create a separate manufacturing line. No,
they're not going to do that. It's just going to
be easier and cheaper, more cost effective to comply with
the standard set by California for auto emissions on just
all manufacturing. So California has in essence become the superpower
(12:27):
that is imposing these restrictions, these requirements not just in automobiles,
but now on guns.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I would slightly counter your argument with if we take
a look at Coca Cola, where they do hi fractose
corn syrup here in the United States, but they use
real sugar down in Mexico. So they do have multiple
plants distributing in creating multiple types of the same product.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So maybe there is what they have, but that's because.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
They have a separate manufacturing a bottling plant Mexico versus
dozens of bottling plants in the US.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I mean, it could it could happen that this gun
manufacturing plant that one will be for California. Well, the
other a dozen and a half that goes everybody else.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
So I would make the argument that so what your
argument is to make it analogous to Mexico is that's
built glock and HK. Every gun manufacturer would then establish
their own manufacturing unit in California just to sell the
guns in California.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
That doesn't have to be in California, but it could
be made elsewhere and then only sold in California.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Right, But I'm just saying that that's an entire separate line.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Could be Coca Cola does it. Yeah, but Coca Cola.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Is selling something that doesn't require the type of manufacturing process.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That a gun or a I mean, it's not quite
as intricate, for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah it's not. It's not nearly it's intricate, you Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
The only difference different facturing process.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You've got the same process.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
It's just that when you when the bottles go through
or the the mix is being put together, rather than
high fruit toased corn syrup, you're going to insert instead
cane sugar.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
That's the only difference. So you still have the same components,
just the input for a particular component is going to
be instead of uh, same thing, high fruit toast, corn syrup,
it's going to be cane sugar.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Same thing for a little micro stamp, it's the firearm
is exactly the same, just this one little bit stamp.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
So, so think about the complication though, of splitting that line,
because over here you've you've put and I don't know
the process by which they manufacture a gun, like like
you know, piece by piece, What in what order do
they manufacture the pieces and then how do they feed
those into the assembly line to actually put them together
(15:01):
then spit it out at the end, And I'm not
quite sure how that goes.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Do you have a couple of interesting text message saying
basically the same thing. If I bought a gun that
had micro stamping on the firing pin, it sure is
a good thing that neither I nor anybody else know
that I know have a dremal tool that can polish
that off in under fifteen seconds.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Which I wondered about because I thought, okay, if you have,
but somehow I.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Guess I would worry.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Maybe I'm just crazy, but I would worry about if
there's some micro stamping ability on the firing pin.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Firing pin is pretty important.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That I probably shouldn't want to mess with those properly.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, it's not like I wanted to take a drimmal
tool and start drilling on the firing pin and then
go out and expect to use that in a the.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Thing that causes the explosion right in my hand. Yes, right,
let's go ahead and play with that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Let me just take the good a partner.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Let me just take a Phillips screwdriver and just kind
of hammer into.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That pen to kind of scar up that micro stamp.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Of course, then again, if no other state is enforcing
the micro stamping, although I guess they could still use it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, I mean even though they even though even though.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
It's not required in Colorado, you could still use that
technology to trace it back because they're all going to
have that micro stamping on it. The point is California
still drive California's still driving the train here, and it
just pisses me off. The California's driving the train. They're
driving the train on automobiles, they're driving the train on
(16:43):
UH emission standards, and not just for cars, but for
virtually everything. They're driving the standards for everything stop it
that that seems to me to be a violation of
the commerce clause. But you know what do I know anyway?
Just be aware that the Ninth Circuit has thrown out
(17:05):
the background check for AMMO purchasing, but the micro stamping
is moving forward.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yay.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
California gun manufacturers already make California compliance models to deal
with their various regulations.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Seriously, I'm not aware of that. I confess total ignorance
on that. So I can buy a particular HK model
that is available in.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
That would be.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Wait a minute, that complies Play that again, Dragon, I
want to hear what. I want to make sure understood
what he said.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Gun manufacturers already make California compliant models to deal with
their various regulations.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So are those California compliant models the same as models
sold in other states? So do they just make all
the guns compliant with California and then they just sell
the guns everywhere? It doesn't make any difference because there
are a lot of other things that you can go
(18:32):
to almost any manufacture of parts, supplies or anything that
are you know, not available or not for sale in California.
So I'm I want to know if you mean all
(18:52):
the they make all of them in compliance with California,
or they do have a separate manufacturing line and they
just they stop the line and then they alter the
line and do assemblies just for California.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And specific California plants.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah, Or is there a specific California plant, which I
doubt there is, cause I don't think that, for example,
that HK or Glock has a plant in California, but
I'd have to double check that. Anyway, that's interesting. I'll
try to track that down, or you could be helpful
and send me a link to that somewhere. I want
to go to Bondani for a minute, but for a
(19:35):
specific reason. This whole concept of socialism has been creeping
in progressive Democrat Marxist politics since the days of Woodrow
Wilson FDR LBJ. It's just carried forward for that matter,
(19:55):
George W. Bush. The idea of giving people something for nothing,
when indeed it has to come from somewhere. You have
nothing is free. You've got to pay for something somewhere.
Even if you're borrowing the money to pay for that
something through deficit spending, it's still not free. Even though
(20:19):
you've you know, people think well, I put it on
the credit card. It didn't cost me anything. Well, yeah,
did you still got to make that minimum payment on
the credit card. New York is a great example of
how in order to compete with Mandani, they're now trying
(20:40):
to outbid him. But let's back up for a moment,
and let's establish the baseline first. I want you to
think about the utterly fantastical fantasy land that he lives in.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
I worked until January and then I took time away
from my job. And one of the major reasons I
could do so is because I knew that if I
ran out of my savings, my family would be able
to support me. I worked until January and then I
took time away from my job, and one of the
major reasons I could do so is because I knew
that if I ran out of my savings, my family
would be able to support me.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Oh, my family would be able to support me.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
So you know, I could keep spending other people's money,
but when I run out, there'll be somebody to support me.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So when you run out of every other producer's.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Money, you know, the all these workers out here, they're
busting their butts today going to work that are producing
the taxes that are going to support all of your programs.
When they finally just give up, they retire, they quit,
they die, They realize why am I doing this? I
(21:53):
can get it for free? And they saw they run
over to your side, to the political spectrum. Then who's
going to backfill that? Who's going to pay for that?
This is the same guy that said that while he
has his family money to rely on.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
My platform is that every single person should have housed.
And I think faced with these two options, the system,
the system has hundreds of thousands of people unhoused right
for for what? And if if there was any system
that could guarantee each person housing, whether you call it
the abolition of private property or you call it, you know,
(22:33):
just a state white housing guarantee, it is preferable to
what is going on right now.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Oh so just eliminate private property or we'll just have
you know, state white housing. We'll just have you know,
the government will just provide you housing. So what is
happening in the New York City race. Well, he's declared that,
you know, housing ought to be free, Buses will be free,
(22:59):
child care will be free, rent will be frozen. The
government run grocery stores. They're gonna you know, they're gonna
light up the crime riddled horizon, the government run grocery stores. Yeah,
what he means is only five loaves of bread left.
I'm taking four of them. I went all five of
them because I can sell those in the black market
(23:20):
and make money. So yeah, they'll just become crime infested
hell holes. Well, I think current Mayor Eric Adams, who's
now running is an independent, must have seen that laundry
list of free stuff for New Yorkers.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
And he spotted some missing items.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
In a press conference yesterday, Adams was joined by the
city's Office of Housing, Preservation and Development to announce their
new h three point two five Let me back up,
to announce their new free wife five to low income
(24:02):
New Yorkers that are living in thirty five different government
subsidized housing buildings. So it's free Wi Fi. But interestingly,
he also announced that they're going to spend three point
twenty five million dollars to provide that free Wi Fi,
proving my point that there's no there is nothing free,
(24:24):
he said, And I quote Liberty Link, which I guess
is the ISP. Liberty Link will deliver free and low
cost internet to more than two thousand households across the
Bronx and Upper Manhattan to bring today, we're bringing Section
eight online.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
We're bringing Section eight housing online.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
We're going to deliver free and low cost internet at
a cost of three point twenty five million dollars?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Do you get the incongruence in what he's saying? Then
he walked over Eric Adams Day.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
He walked over to a four foot gray box with
three light bulbs protruding from its front. He flipped a switch.
This is hilarious to watch. He flipped a switch on
the back and it lit up and it made the
same sound as a pinball machine. Adam Zien went back
(25:23):
to the podium and said, nothing like a good prop
What the hell was that? Hey, we're going to give
free Wi Fi to people living in Section eight housing
in parts of the Bronx and Manhattan. Well why not
give it to everybody? Why just then? And oh, by
(25:44):
the way, that free is going to cost taxpayers in
New York three point two five million dollars. And the
company that's doing it, h Liberty Link, apparently isn't willing
to give it to just say, hey, here's our equipment. Here,
here's our fiber or whatever it is. You know, maybe
it's like a starlink or something. I don't know, but here,
(26:05):
here's here's our equipment. But you're got to pay for it.
And then you're to pay the monthly fee too. So
it's going to cost three point two five million dollars.
And the pinball machine? What what?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
What? What is that? What's that supposed to represent? Now?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
His announcement comes right after he appeared on the podcast
for The New York Post, in which he said that
again that almost all of Mondani's socialist promises are unattainable.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yet here he is doing exactly the damn same same thing.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
He said, and I quote, I truly believe the worst
thing you can do as New Yorkers are struggling, The
worst thing you can do as New Yorkers are struggling
is to make broken promises. Referencing his opponent's promise to
raise income tax for the top one percent of New Yorkers,
he said, and I quote, he can't raise the income tax,
(27:04):
so he's making these false promises. And then the mayor
stepped back and took a moment to thank Trump for
taking control of the border. When the migrant and asylum
seekers crisis came to the city, we received more than
two hundred and thirty seven thousand migrants, as he calls it.
At its peak, we were receiving four thousand a week.
(27:26):
He said that he took a lot of trips to
DC to try to convince Biden to send the migrants elsewhere,
and then he went on an interview with Tucker Carlson
back in January and said that Grandpa's Joe's only advice
for him was just to be a good Democrat. Now
back to the press conference, he said, we're now down
to less than one hundred migrant asylum seekers coming into
(27:49):
our city a week, and that's due to the security
of the border. The Trump administration secured the border, and
because of that, you're not seeing the thousands of people
coming in. And it's been a real relief for our city.
As you stated, it cost us seven point seven billion dollars.
Remember how he was bitching about he couldn't afford it,
(28:10):
he couldn't afford the seven point seven billion dollars. But
I guess you know you can't afford seven point seven
billion dollars, But you can't afford to pay three point
twenty five million and then.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Call it free. This is how they.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Just continue to try to reword it. But we're in
the bidding war, and people are falling for the bidding war. Now,
Zoran is just real quickly. He's twelve points ahead of Clomo,
who's now running as an independent. He's twenty two points
ahead of Adams, and he's seventeen points ahead of the
(28:46):
Republican Kurtis Sliwa, the founder of the Guardian Angels, who's
running on the Republican ticket.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So this guy's winning.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
And so rather than try to point out how he
can't do those things, they're now bidding to try to
outdo him.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh, he's going to offer you free stuff.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I'll off of you free stuff too, at a cost
of three point two five million dollars.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Michael, like all other manufacturers of products such as lawnmowers,
all the manufacturers make a California compliant model, all of them.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
You say, everyone does. I question that, And it may
be as simple as this, in which case I would say, Okay,
they probably do.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
So.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Agent Jeda just sent me an email about what makes
a pistol California compliant now I'm just gonna take him
as a word. There's no citation here, but.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
He's kind of a gun nut.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
So right, so I've got I've got I've got confidence
in this email. Here's a breakdown of the key aspects
one ross of handgun certified for sale. The handguns must
be tested and certified by the Department of Justice to
be listed on the California Roster. This roster serves as
a list of handguns that meet California's safety standards. So
(30:16):
what are the manufacturers have to do? They've got to
pay a fee and then submit specific handgun models for
testing to be included on the California Safety standard list.
Here is the second part, the safety testing. The testing
(30:36):
includes firing six hundred rounds from each of the three
submitted handgun models. There are limits on the number of
malfunctions allowed, no more than six per gun, excluding any
AMMO related issues. The guns undergo drop tests. Each gun
gets dropped six times to check for a THENT discharges.
(31:02):
The guns must also pass a physical integrity test, ensuring
there are no cracks or breakages that could cause injuries.
In addition to those California rules, all pistols sold in
the state of Massachusetts must have a minimum ten pound
trigger pull force versus the three and a half pounds
for three three to five pounds I should say for
(31:24):
a normal pistol, which obviously makes them less accurate because
of the stronger force required to get them to discharge. Well,
if that's all they have to do, then there's no
change in the manufacturing process. They randomly pull six guns,
or maybe not randomly. Hey guys, we need six. We
(31:45):
need six of this model to send a DOJ so
we can sell them in California. Okay, Well, pull out six,
check them ourselves to make sure they're going to comply,
and then ship those off to DOJ so they can
run these. So that you know, and imagine that you've
got the job at DJ, and maybe you do it
(32:06):
at Klonaco or somewhere who knows where they do it,
but you ship it off to wherever DJ does this testing.
And all you do is you go. You get the
different models, and you you drop them six times, you
fire six hundred rounds. You uh, you know, you check
the pressure on UH to make sure the UH the trigger.
(32:30):
You got to check the force on the trigger. UH,
inspect it to make sure you know, after you drop
it six times, there's you know, no cracks or anything
done that might make the gun unsafe. And then you
certify it and then they sell it. You don't do
anything back in the manufacturing process. It's any different whatsoever.
It's the same thing. So, yeah, it's in TI, it's it. Well,
(32:54):
just put it this way. It's a farce. It's a farce, huh.
Having to do that is what a cost of the
manufacturing doing business. So you pay for that in the
ultimate price that you pay for a handgun by any
manufacturer that sells a gun in California. You pay that
(33:17):
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