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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In regards as to why Charlie Kirk was silenced, there's
an old saying that goes, you don't cut out a
man's tone to make him stop lying, You cut out
a man's tone to make him stop telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, that's absolutely true. I I can't say that. I
will not discuss Charlie Kirk today. Is he is that
(00:37):
what he's talking about? Still, let's let's let's see, let's
go to Fox News O.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The bottom line is they have somebody that they think
I did it.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So, mister President, there is the death penalty in Utah.
And I do know if this is going to be
a federal case, and there's many of us believe that
Charlie was targeted because of this political ideology. Yeah, what's
going to happen to this guy?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I hope who's going to be found guilty? I
would you imagine? And I hope against the death penalty
what he did. Charlie Kirk, who's the finest person that
he didn't deserve this. He works so hard and so well.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Everybody liked him.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I've been watching.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Even the left is having a hard time. They fired
this guy down from ms DNC and who's a terrible guy,
a terrible human being, but they fired him.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I hear they're firing other people.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
And you know we're talking about radical left now they're
a little bit but radical of networks and cable channels,
horrible channels like ms I always go a DNC because
it's somehow affiliated with the Democrat National Committee, so you know,
it's a little statement you make. But ms NBC, but NBC, ABC, CBS,
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they were all terrible, absolutely terrible and unfair. But even
they have been giving it sort of like this can't be.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Allowed to happen.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
And I just love moment of sound to the Yankee game,
moment of sound of the Redskin game, Commander's game last night,
because they understand this isn't doesn't matter who you voted for.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
This was a special person.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
My opinion.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
My opinion is that you have people where the soldier dies,
you write a person or do you feel it when
something happens in America? You feel it, you show up
for I feel like with Chrolie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
For what I witnessed is for you. It's almost like
a family member.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don said to me, he's sort of like the sun
to you. Charlie got involved like eleven years ago. I
think he started. He's a brilliant governor. He didn't go
to college. He actually started in college. He was so
bored he left. He would have done very well in
college if he wanted to. But he was brilliant. I
always say, you know, can you get a degree? Because
you sudden used?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Maybe that's enough. By the way, could you hear the static?
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Oh yeah, it's just the connection between the television to
the through the board.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So did somebody spill some icy or anything in there?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
So the big breaking news that we just you kind
of caught the tail in though that Trump says that
they have Kirk's suspect in custody.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The chirn on both CNN and Fox Now. Interestingly, on CNN,
they're playing snippets of Trump's interview on Fox with their
chiron on CNN Breaking News, Trump on Kirk suspect, I
think we have him. On Fox, President Trump, we have
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Kirk suspect in custody. Now I don't know, I think
we have him. According to CNN, seems to be a
little different than what Fox says, we have kirk suspect
in custody. Am I misreading that?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Mister producer.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Wouldn't be the first time that CNN changed the headlines
or changed the meaning of what was said or interpreted, which.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is interestingly something that mister headline guy said to me.
And this is what really pisses me off about this producer.
He just irritates the fire out of me. So we
we First of all, I'll tell you a minute. We
had a production meeting. I'm going to bed last night,
and you know, we should text Tepper right now because
(04:18):
I think Tepper's probably still in bed. I should just
for the fun of a text. Tepper's our program director,
Dave Tepper, and he's a great guy. We love him.
We just say that on air because we have to.
We can't stand as guts, but we have to say
that on air. So we love the guy. But I've
you know, I'm taking my sleep meds. I've called under
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the cooviies. The dogs are all quiet. I've got an
air pod in I'm listening to one of my international
podcasts and I'm slowly drifting off to sleep and i
hear Siri in my ear say you have a messy
from Dave Tepper for you and Dragon, and I'm I'm
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in that kind of half asked stupor about what's what's
going on? And so I think I gotta read it.
So here's what I write. Here's what I wake myself
out of drifting off to sleep to read, Hey Michael,
Well why not to hate Michael and Dragon. He obviously
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doesn't care about you because it's only addressed to me,
although you're included in the group chat in the group text.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, you use that studio. I use this studio. The
issue was with that studio.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But you're the producer responsible for making certain that this
microphone works. And I know you don't care. And then
I can actually hear what you say. That's the only
thing you care about is if I can hear what
you say.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
And you can't stop hearing what I said.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, I have no control over that. Well I guess
I can. Well, no, even I'll went into the news gym.
You just flip over there and talk to me anyway,
So I can't anyway. So the text says, Hey Michael,
you may need to use a guest headphone jack tomorrow
if your regular one isn't working. There was a tease
bill the studio with the capitalist fill in host. They've
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cleaned it up. And everything else works, there's a fixed
ticket in I'm thinking, really seriously, thanks for waking me up,
Thanks for waking me up. But here's the best part.
As I'm trying to process that and think to myself,
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leave me alone. I don't care nothing else works in
the studio. Why should I care if that works.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
If it makes you feel any better? Mark Major and
I got that same text message a few minutes later,
and Mark said, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just I just did a thumbs up emoji. That's all
I did. You know you can. I'm on the text.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Its else.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But here's the stupid part about me, which shows how
I am always optimistic, foolishly optimistic, why I am really naive.
And while I've been working for this same EFN company
for almost twenty years, I still think that eventually they'll
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do something.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
You must be new here.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I certainly must be new here, because here's what I thought. Oh,
somebody spilled a giant like forty ounce you know, cup
of iced tea, and it went all over the console,
and then it dripped over into the middle here, where
it's actually a super fun site. The middle of our
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console is a super fun site. So I'm going to
bed thinking, wow, I can just see they've got dominic
up here. They might have even called Herbian because they're
panic strict in there. And they're down there checking the wires.
They're cleaning everything up, and I'm thinking, wow, I'm gonna
go in tomorrow. It's going to be a clean studio.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I'll say it again. You must be new here.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So I come in and I look at the console
and it's pretty clean. And then I pick up the keyboard.
I pick up the keyboard still so I can move
it so I can get everything set up. And as
I lift it up, I see, oh, under the keyboard
there is still icya there. So all anybody did was
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just wipe around the keyboard.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Up under the keyboard surface.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But I was I was absolutely hoping that there would
be ah the super fun so EPA could actually release
iHeart from their super fund regulations and we could come
in here and I wouldn't have to wear and a
level a suit, you know, to broadcast, and I wouldn't
have to have the oxygen mask on, so I wouldn't
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breathe the deadly I mean, it looks like, you know, truly,
it looks like like over here in this corner it
looks like where rats, you know, build nests. It looks
like rats or mice have built a nest over here.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah that sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, let's okay.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
So we were talking about CNN and how they're well, yes,
their headline is different than you know, the Fox News
says Trump we have Kirk suspect in custody, and then
you stated that CNN said, let and I can't see
CNN from your side. I'm not sure if it still
says it or not, but thinks we may have suspect
in custody.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now, you said something to me that you played a
little game with me by asking me questions and I
didn't know. And actually I am shocked to some degree,
not completely, but to some degree. The CNN is actually
this bad. We're gonna tell the story.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
As we were kind of getting off of the air yesterday,
right roughly around nine point thirty ish give or take,
a Wall Street Journal had reported and they were the
first ones to the first major news and outlet to
report that there were writings on the casings to the
AMMO and the writings referred to transgender ideology and anti fascism.
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So then other networks were starting to pick that up.
The dominoes were starting to fall. But CNN's headline was
a little different than the Wall Street Journal's headline. CNN's
headline is rifle and Ammo, scrawled with cultural phrases found
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after Kirk killing. Cultural phrase, cultural phrases. Now, mind you,
CNN has the same information that the Wall Street Journal
has and all the other three letter networks are starting
to acquire, and CNN chose to go with cultural phrases.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh, let's play. I've been waiting to see if our
clipping service would come up with anything. They finally have
an excerpt. Let's listen to it.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Yesterday you were at the nine eleven memorial. We were
all watching that. Katie Vance was supposed to be with you.
He went out to be with Charlie Kirk's family and
to get the body back to his hometown in Arizona,
and you said you were going to award him the
Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Very nice of you.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Any updates on the suspect.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Can I always say, I think just to protect us
all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all
don't get sued and everything else, But I think with
a high degree of certainty. We have him in custody. Okay,
in custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with
the local police, the governor. Everybody did a great job.
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You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing,
and we started off with a clip that made him
look like an ant, that was almost useless. We just
saw there was somebody up there. And so much work
has been done over the last two and a half days.
You know, it's amazing actually when you start off with
that and then all of a sudden you get lucky
or talent or.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But yeah, we're I think we're in great shape. He's
in custody.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, wow, just so I don't get sued, which he's
immune from that kind of lawsuit, or that Fox doesn't
get sued. Let me just that.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Yesterday you were at with Charlie Kirk's family at the
body back to his hometown in Arizona, and you said
you were going to award him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Which is very nice of you. Any updates on the.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Suspect, Yeah, can I always say, I think just to
protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and
we all don't get sued and everything else. But I
think with a high degree of certainty we have him
grand custody, in custody. Everyone did a great job. We
worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a
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great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off
with absolutely nothing, and we started off with a clip
that made him look like an ant that was almost useless.
We just saw there was somebody else.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I just find that interesting. Now see him has changed
their headline. The trump says suspecting Kirk killing is in
custody does not change their chirn. It is still we
have Kirk suspect.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
A high degree of certainty that he's in custody now.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Later on he did say we have him.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Later on he did say we have.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Very end of that clip that you played, it was
the way Trumpians talk, the way the trump the Trumpians speak.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It was very but he did say we have him.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
They everyone did a great job. We worked with the
local I think just to protect us all and so
Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued
and everything else. But I think with a high degree
of certainty we have him grand custody. Okay, in custody.
Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police,
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the governor, everybody did a great job. You know, getting
somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing, and we
started off with a clip that made him look like
an ant, that was almost useless. We just saw there
was somebody up there. And so much work has been
done over the last two and a half days. You know,
it's amazing actually when you start off with that and
then all of a sudden you you get lucky or
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talent or whatever it is. But yeah, we're I think
we're in great shape. He's in custody.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Oh, he's in custody.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now, let's go to the US version of the Sun
newspaper from Great Britain. Donald Trump has announced the suspect
and the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been taken into
custody after being turned in by his dad Beautiful. The
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president was appearing live on Fox and Friends this morning,
where he said, cops have quote a high degree of
certainty closed quote they have the person they are looking for.
Uh pictures, pictures. The president said. The suspects father and
church minister turned in his son after the brutal assassination.
Trump said, quote they have somebody that they think did it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He steps up.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Father is church minister or two people? Two different people's father?
I think, well, church minister.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This is why you learn to diagram sentences, the President said,
the suspects father and church minister. If you diagram that properly,
because there's no comma or any other indication of a pause.
The father is a church minister.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The President said he did not know if the suspect
was part of a bigger network. Well, all right, let's
see anything else. Trump, this is in a solid no, okay,
so that's that's the CNBC. Let's see what CNBC says.
(16:49):
I think we're in great shape. He's in custody. Essentially,
somebody that was very close to him turned him in.
Trump added. The remarks came less than an hour before
long or some officials were set to hold a news
conference on their man hunt for the assassin who fatally
shot Kirk on Wednesday. During an out to our event,
You tall Vallley, blah blah blah blah. All right, Dragon, Well,
I guess your job is to watch Fox. And let's
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take that. Let's take that press conference if and when
we get to it, and let's see what the let's
see what Cash Betel and Dan Bongino have.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
To say about static at all. Static and all.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's right, But if you just dry off the wires,
get one of those you know, dust cans that you
blow dust off with and dry it off, or just
take your shirt. It's just an old T shirt anyway,
it's just no crappy, stupid T shirt. Just take that off. No,
don't take that off. Never mind, don't take that off.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
We're covering. Wolke had a great point that as legislation
around guns has gone up in Colorado, so have the
number of school shootings. So as all of us know,
gun legislation is not preventing school shootings or other crimes
because well, criminals don't follow laws. Crazy idea. Why have
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more gun legislation when the current stuff does not work?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Well, Dragon, she's finally jumped Shark. I would as much
finally off the deep end.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
As much as I like her, though I wouldn't always
say that correlation does not make them equal causation. Just
because there are more red cars on the road does
not mean it is not equal to the fact that.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I've gotten a raise. I gotta raise because I got
a raise, not because.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm talking about her comment that the criminals don't follow
the law.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
She is absolutely right about that, but it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is wow, I never thought about that.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
News to me.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I know, let's let's research that before we let's edit
that out of the podcast, just in case somebody thinks
that we believe that chrome don't follow the laws.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Right, that's all on her, not on us, right, that's not.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We were not buying into that premise yet. However, I
am buying into this premise. So I'll be quite honest
with you. I forgot to do my Michael Brown minute
last night because I was distracted by a bunch of
other stuff going on. And I woke up this morning
and I was up exceptionally early this morning for some reason.
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And then I realized, oh, I think I left it
on the printer that CO tapped to my office, and realized, oh,
I never did one last night. So I frantically looked
for a story and I come across the story and
you can imagine see if you can spot why this
particular headline caught my attention, and I thought, oh, this
I think would probably make a good Michael Brown minute.
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This is over at the Colorado sun two hundred dead
fish in Colorado Reservoir have local groups concerned over climate
changes impact on mountain waters. With a changing climate in
the mix, local groups are worried more fish kills and
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higher pollution levels are in the future. Naturally, it catches
my attention, right, we got dead fish everywhere, dead fish.
In August, Kurt Dall, Pitkin County's environmental health manager, headed
up to Grizzly Reservoir to investigate reports of dead fish
along the banks of the mostly drained lake. Now there's
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my first clue. Now mostly drained because if the lake
has dried up because there's been a lack of moisture
or snow melt, I'm not sure I would say that
the lake had been drained. For example, you know occasionally
at horse Tooth they I forget, maybe it's been in
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the past few years, they drained Horse Tooth Reservoir in
order to go through and you know, clean up the silt,
you know, get all the dead bodies that have been
buried there and all the stuff, all the crap out
and then let the lake refill. That's draining the lake.
But if Horse Tooth Reservoir or Gross Reservoir or any
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of the other reservoirs in the mountains are at a
lower level because there's been a lack of snow melt,
or there's been a lack of rain, there's been a
lack of runoff. Don't I would not use the verb drained.
I would say, yeah, they're they're a little dry, they're
a little low. For example, in New Mexico, where there's
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a there's a giant reservoir not far from where the
undisclosed location is. We have noticed as we cross the
mountain pass that one of us will comment, oh, the
lake seems to be high, or the lake seems to
be low. We never say, oh, look they've drained the reservoir. No,
we just think it's higher low. Dall says that on
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August nineteenth, we walked three quarters of the lake and
there were approximately one hundred and fifty dead fish, estimating
there were an additional fifty fish in the part of
the shore they didn't cover, so maybe two hundred dead fish.
Colorado Park and Wildlife had just stocked the lake with
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rainbow trout a week prior. Okay, do you think maybe
they tested the water before they did? Well, as a
matter of fact, they did the agency said it tested
the reservoir and conditions were fine to release the fish,
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but within the waters lurked a quote remarkably high concentration
of copper.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So the condition were fine to release the fish, but
when you tested the water you found a remarkably high
concentration of copper. The next sentence discloses everything. This year,
warm temperatures and less water flowing into Grizzly Reservoir allowed
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the metals concentration to reach a deadly threshold. No waitte,
you say it's a remarkably high in the first half
of the paragraph, and then admit in the second In
the last sentence of the paragraph, that the concentration of
copper had reached a deadly threshold. So, Colorado Parks and Wildlife,
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Oh what is it? You? You? You went to the fishery,
you collected a bunch of beautiful rainbow trout, You hauled
their asses over to Pitkin County to to over to
the reservoir, and you dumped them in there, knowing that
there was a deadly level of copper in the water.
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Local groups are worried more fish kills and higher pollution
levels are in the future.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
In the future. They're not worried about the currently dead fish.
They're only worried about dead fish in the future. Lisa Tasker,
who represents the Roaring Fork Watershed on Picking Counties Health
Rivers and Streams Advisory See, there's a great example, Kathleen Chandler.
Kathleen needs to get people onto Pitkin County's Health, rint,
Rivers and Streams Citizen Advisory Board. Yes, so you could
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be the antidote to the dumbastery that goes on over there.
How many issues are we going to bump into, like
into like the summer, Like I don't know, Like we
got to find out, like like like Gross Reservoir ten
and forty two feet in a remote alpine area Picking County.
There are on site caretakers that travel through the Twin
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Lakes Tunnel beneath Independence Pass to get to work. Is
owned by the Twin Lakes Reservoir and Canal Company. Is
part of a larger diversion system that moves water from
the western slope over to the Arkansas River basin and
then on down in the front range so that we
can have some water to drink and bathe and shower,
which I know most of you have not done yet.
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The Environmental Protection Agency determined that the Ruby mine contributed
less than less than five percent of the contaminants in
the Grizzly reservoir. The rest came from natural geology. Another
fishkill happened back in twenty twenty three and then again
in August. So maybe if you're telling me that copper
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is naturally occurring, I mean, come on, think about copper
naturally occurs in the mountains. Why do you think we
have abandoned copper mines? And frankly, we have active copper
mines in Colorado because there's copper in the mountains. So
as the rain falls on the mountains and leeches through
into the ground water and leaches and flows into the streams,
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and the streams flow into the reservoirs, don't you think
the copper kind of follows the water and it ends
up in the reservoirs. Oh my gosh, but here's the
coup de gross. Diane McKnight, a CU professor, says what
may be happening due to climate warmer summers and drier
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summers in the Lincoln Creek watershed is also happening across
the Colorado mineral belt.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So if the coppers already in the water and the
water levels are starting to drop because of drought like
lack of rainfall like a snow melt, naturally the concentrations
are going to get higher because there's less water, so
the coppers as diluted as if the reservoirs were completely full.
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But if it's not raining, and if it's not there's
not snow melt, then there's no runoff to collect in
the rivers to make it to the reservoir to increase
the copper level. So it's the copper level is naturally increasing,
and so it must already be when you tested it,
as you said in the very first paragraph, already at
a deadly level. But no, let's let's claim climate change.
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But then listen to this. In a written statement to
the Coldraada's Sun, the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Department declined
to share the exact level of acidity, but they said
it was within normal limits. Who the freak's telling the
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truth in this article. You're telling me it's at deadly levels.
You're telling me it's at I are the normal levels,
And then you're telling me but we're not going to
tell you what the levels are?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Seems to me that we just want a narrative that
fish have died. We found some dead fish in this
all screen climate change. What insanity?
Speaker 10 (28:20):
This is, Kathleen, And yes, I'm on it. Pitkin County.
Send me an email with all the details. But here's
a little note. Do I really listen to you that
much that you can just like call me out on
the radio?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Well?
Speaker 10 (28:32):
I guess so have a great Friday.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I think every googer that listens to this program is
fair game for me to call out on the radio,
every single one of you.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
At the trucker with the laugh girl.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Dad, we are vicious. We're truly, we're truly a holes
and there we just don't we don't spare anybody. He goes, well,
I'm perfect, Dragon's almost perfect, and so we just want
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you to live up to our standards, and when you don't,
we have to call you out. And Kathleen, I don't
know that there's any openings on this Pitkin County. What
the hell was it called? Now? I got to find
that stupid I think I've closed that tab already. Now
here it is, what's it called? It's called the Pitkin County.
(29:29):
Uh was the watershed something? It's the Pitkin County Health
Rivers and Streams Citizen Advisory Board. Now, when I read
that in the story this morning, the first thing, which
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is really pathetic, The first thing I thought of, was
Kathleen Chandler at the Independence Institute. Who does this? I apologize,
well that I don't because I just don't care. I
forget the exact name of the of the program that
she does, which is about teaching you, the other goobers,
how to become involved at the local level and this.
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And when I read that there is something called the
Pitkin County Health Rivers and Streams Citizen Advisory Board. What
a great thing to serve on if you live in
Pitkin County. I mean, they probably have meetings at the
little now so, you know, at the hotel's your own,
so you get you get to go to a really
nice hotel. They probably have, you know, because it's a
it's a special district kind of board. They probably have
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really nice food, you know, nice finger food or nice
lunch whatever. And you get to be on the board.
And when they start talking about climate change, if you're
on this board, you can say whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on a minute, Hold on a minute. Why do
we have higher levels of Why why do we have
deadly levels of copper in this reservoir? And by the way,
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why is the Color of Parks and Wildlife Department not
releasing the analysis of the content of the water. And
yet somehow we're supposed to. If someone told you that
X is true, and I have the truth for X
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in this bag, but you can't see in the bag.
Maybe it's just me. I would immediately be suspicious of
what's in the bag. I would immediately be suspicious of
what you're telling me. Oh, here's the truth, here's the proof,
but you can't see it. Really, then I don't believe
you prove to me.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So when they.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Tell you that, oh, there were first of all, it
was highly concentrated, and CPW says it was okay to
release the trout, But then you find out later that
they won't tell the board exactly what the levels of
copper were. I want to know why, and if you
were on this board, see this is where you start
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making change. I know everybody wants to be president. Everybody
wants to be a congressman or senator or a governor
or state, repro state, you know, senator whatever, which is fine,
you know, if if that's your if that's your thing,
go for it. But change, real, significant change begins at
stupid little boards like this, because that's where the Democrats
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have been so effective at planting people on these places
so they can count all their bull crap. And they
count all that bull crap and the next thing, you know,
that becomes public policy. For Yeah, go check out ie
two I dot org and then just search for the
(32:46):
local government something. I apologize, Bethlee. I don't have the
name of it, but you'll find you'll find it on
on the website. Gosh. Now I'm driving traffic to Caldera's website.
In regards as to why Charlie Kirk was silenced, there's
an old saying that goes, you don't cut out a
man's tone to make him stop lying, You cut out
a man's tone to make him stop telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, that's absolutely true. I I can't say that. I
will not discuss Charlie Kirk today. Is he is that
(00:37):
what he's talking about? Still, let's let's let's see, let's
go to Fox News O.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The bottom line is they have somebody that they think
I did it.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
So, mister President, there is the death penalty in Utah.
And I do know if this is going to be
a federal case, and there's many of us believe that
Charlie was targeted because of this political ideology. Yeah, what's
going to happen to this guy?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, I hope who's going to be found guilty? I
would you imagine? And I hope against the death penalty
what he did. Charlie Kirk, who's the finest person that
he didn't deserve this. He works so hard and so well.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Everybody liked him.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I've been watching.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Even the left is having a hard time. They fired
this guy down from ms DNC and who's a terrible guy,
a terrible human being, but they fired him.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I hear they're firing other people.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
And you know we're talking about radical left now they're
a little bit but radical of networks and cable channels,
horrible channels like ms I always go a DNC because
it's somehow affiliated with the Democrat National Committee, so you know,
it's a little statement you make. But ms NBC, but NBC, ABC, CBS,
(01:46):
they were all terrible, absolutely terrible and unfair. But even
they have been giving it sort of like this can't be.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Allowed to happen.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
And I just love moment of sound to the Yankee game,
moment of sound of the Redskin game, Commander's game last night,
because they understand this isn't doesn't matter who you voted for.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
This was a special person.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
My opinion.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
My opinion is that you have people where the soldier dies,
you write a person or do you feel it when
something happens in America? You feel it, you show up
for I feel like with Chrolie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
For what I witnessed is for you. It's almost like
a family member.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Don said to me, he's sort of like the sun
to you. Charlie got involved like eleven years ago. I
think he started. He's a brilliant governor. He didn't go
to college. He actually started in college. He was so
bored he left. He would have done very well in
college if he wanted to. But he was brilliant. I
always say, you know, can you get a degree? Because
you sudden used?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Maybe that's enough. By the way, could you hear the static?
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Oh yeah, it's just the connection between the television to
the through the board.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So did somebody spill some icy or anything in there?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
So the big breaking news that we just you kind
of caught the tail in though that Trump says that
they have Kirk's suspect in custody.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The chirn on both CNN and Fox Now. Interestingly, on CNN,
they're playing snippets of Trump's interview on Fox with their
chiron on CNN Breaking News, Trump on Kirk suspect, I
think we have him. On Fox, President Trump, we have
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Kirk suspect in custody. Now I don't know, I think
we have him. According to CNN, seems to be a
little different than what Fox says, we have kirk suspect
in custody. Am I misreading that?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Mister producer.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Wouldn't be the first time that CNN changed the headlines
or changed the meaning of what was said or interpreted, which.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is interestingly something that mister headline guy said to me.
And this is what really pisses me off about this producer.
He just irritates the fire out of me. So we
we First of all, I'll tell you a minute. We
had a production meeting. I'm going to bed last night,
and you know, we should text Tepper right now because
(04:18):
I think Tepper's probably still in bed. I should just
for the fun of a text. Tepper's our program director,
Dave Tepper, and he's a great guy. We love him.
We just say that on air because we have to.
We can't stand as guts, but we have to say
that on air. So we love the guy. But I've
you know, I'm taking my sleep meds. I've called under
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the cooviies. The dogs are all quiet. I've got an
air pod in I'm listening to one of my international
podcasts and I'm slowly drifting off to sleep and i
hear Siri in my ear say you have a messy
from Dave Tepper for you and Dragon, and I'm I'm
(05:04):
in that kind of half asked stupor about what's what's
going on? And so I think I gotta read it.
So here's what I write. Here's what I wake myself
out of drifting off to sleep to read, Hey Michael,
Well why not to hate Michael and Dragon. He obviously
(05:26):
doesn't care about you because it's only addressed to me,
although you're included in the group chat in the group text.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Well, you use that studio. I use this studio. The
issue was with that studio.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But you're the producer responsible for making certain that this
microphone works. And I know you don't care. And then
I can actually hear what you say. That's the only
thing you care about is if I can hear what
you say.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
And you can't stop hearing what I said.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, I have no control over that. Well I guess
I can. Well, no, even I'll went into the news gym.
You just flip over there and talk to me anyway,
So I can't anyway. So the text says, Hey Michael,
you may need to use a guest headphone jack tomorrow
if your regular one isn't working. There was a tease
bill the studio with the capitalist fill in host. They've
(06:19):
cleaned it up. And everything else works, there's a fixed
ticket in I'm thinking, really seriously, thanks for waking me up,
Thanks for waking me up. But here's the best part.
As I'm trying to process that and think to myself,
(06:39):
leave me alone. I don't care nothing else works in
the studio. Why should I care if that works.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
If it makes you feel any better? Mark Major and
I got that same text message a few minutes later,
and Mark said, Okay, I.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Just I just did a thumbs up emoji. That's all
I did. You know you can. I'm on the text.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Its else.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But here's the stupid part about me, which shows how
I am always optimistic, foolishly optimistic, why I am really naive.
And while I've been working for this same EFN company
for almost twenty years, I still think that eventually they'll
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do something.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
You must be new here.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I certainly must be new here, because here's what I thought. Oh,
somebody spilled a giant like forty ounce you know, cup
of iced tea, and it went all over the console,
and then it dripped over into the middle here, where
it's actually a super fun site. The middle of our
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console is a super fun site. So I'm going to
bed thinking, wow, I can just see they've got dominic
up here. They might have even called Herbian because they're
panic strict in there. And they're down there checking the wires.
They're cleaning everything up, and I'm thinking, wow, I'm gonna
go in tomorrow. It's going to be a clean studio.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I'll say it again. You must be new here.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So I come in and I look at the console
and it's pretty clean. And then I pick up the keyboard.
I pick up the keyboard still so I can move
it so I can get everything set up. And as
I lift it up, I see, oh, under the keyboard
there is still icya there. So all anybody did was
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just wipe around the keyboard.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Up under the keyboard surface.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But I was I was absolutely hoping that there would
be ah the super fun so EPA could actually release
iHeart from their super fund regulations and we could come
in here and I wouldn't have to wear and a
level a suit, you know, to broadcast, and I wouldn't
have to have the oxygen mask on, so I wouldn't
(09:06):
breathe the deadly I mean, it looks like, you know, truly,
it looks like like over here in this corner it
looks like where rats, you know, build nests. It looks
like rats or mice have built a nest over here.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah that sounds about right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, let's okay.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
So we were talking about CNN and how they're well, yes,
their headline is different than you know, the Fox News
says Trump we have Kirk suspect in custody, and then
you stated that CNN said, let and I can't see
CNN from your side. I'm not sure if it still
says it or not, but thinks we may have suspect
in custody.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now, you said something to me that you played a
little game with me by asking me questions and I
didn't know. And actually I am shocked to some degree,
not completely, but to some degree. The CNN is actually
this bad. We're gonna tell the story.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
As we were kind of getting off of the air yesterday,
right roughly around nine point thirty ish give or take,
a Wall Street Journal had reported and they were the
first ones to the first major news and outlet to
report that there were writings on the casings to the
AMMO and the writings referred to transgender ideology and anti fascism.
(10:38):
So then other networks were starting to pick that up.
The dominoes were starting to fall. But CNN's headline was
a little different than the Wall Street Journal's headline. CNN's
headline is rifle and Ammo, scrawled with cultural phrases found
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after Kirk killing. Cultural phrase, cultural phrases. Now, mind you,
CNN has the same information that the Wall Street Journal
has and all the other three letter networks are starting
to acquire, and CNN chose to go with cultural phrases.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh, let's play. I've been waiting to see if our
clipping service would come up with anything. They finally have
an excerpt. Let's listen to it.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
Yesterday you were at the nine eleven memorial. We were
all watching that. Katie Vance was supposed to be with you.
He went out to be with Charlie Kirk's family and
to get the body back to his hometown in Arizona,
and you said you were going to award him the
Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Very nice of you.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
Any updates on the suspect.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Can I always say, I think just to protect us
all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all
don't get sued and everything else, But I think with
a high degree of certainty. We have him in custody. Okay,
in custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with
the local police, the governor. Everybody did a great job.
(12:23):
You know, getting somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing,
and we started off with a clip that made him
look like an ant, that was almost useless. We just
saw there was somebody up there. And so much work
has been done over the last two and a half days.
You know, it's amazing actually when you start off with
that and then all of a sudden you get lucky
or talent or.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
But yeah, we're I think we're in great shape. He's
in custody.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, wow, just so I don't get sued, which he's
immune from that kind of lawsuit, or that Fox doesn't
get sued. Let me just that.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Yesterday you were at with Charlie Kirk's family at the
body back to his hometown in Arizona, and you said
you were going to award him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Which is very nice of you. Any updates on the.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Suspect, Yeah, can I always say, I think just to
protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and
we all don't get sued and everything else. But I
think with a high degree of certainty we have him
grand custody, in custody. Everyone did a great job. We
worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a
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great job. You know, getting somebody that you start off
with absolutely nothing, and we started off with a clip
that made him look like an ant that was almost useless.
We just saw there was somebody else.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I just find that interesting. Now see him has changed
their headline. The trump says suspecting Kirk killing is in
custody does not change their chirn. It is still we
have Kirk suspect.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
A high degree of certainty that he's in custody now.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Later on he did say we have him.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Later on he did say we have.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Very end of that clip that you played, it was
the way Trumpians talk, the way the trump the Trumpians speak.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It was very but he did say we have him.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
They everyone did a great job. We worked with the
local I think just to protect us all and so
Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued
and everything else. But I think with a high degree
of certainty we have him grand custody. Okay, in custody.
Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police,
(14:44):
the governor, everybody did a great job. You know, getting
somebody that you start off with absolutely nothing, and we
started off with a clip that made him look like
an ant, that was almost useless. We just saw there
was somebody up there. And so much work has been
done over the last two and a half days. You know,
it's amazing actually when you start off with that and
then all of a sudden you you get lucky or
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talent or whatever it is. But yeah, we're I think
we're in great shape. He's in custody.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Oh, he's in custody.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now, let's go to the US version of the Sun
newspaper from Great Britain. Donald Trump has announced the suspect
and the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been taken into
custody after being turned in by his dad Beautiful. The
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president was appearing live on Fox and Friends this morning,
where he said, cops have quote a high degree of
certainty closed quote they have the person they are looking for.
Uh pictures, pictures. The president said. The suspects father and
church minister turned in his son after the brutal assassination.
Trump said, quote they have somebody that they think did it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
He steps up.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Father is church minister or two people? Two different people's father?
I think, well, church minister.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
This is why you learn to diagram sentences, the President said,
the suspects father and church minister. If you diagram that properly,
because there's no comma or any other indication of a pause.
The father is a church minister.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The President said he did not know if the suspect
was part of a bigger network. Well, all right, let's
see anything else. Trump, this is in a solid no, okay,
so that's that's the CNBC. Let's see what CNBC says.
(16:49):
I think we're in great shape. He's in custody. Essentially,
somebody that was very close to him turned him in.
Trump added. The remarks came less than an hour before
long or some officials were set to hold a news
conference on their man hunt for the assassin who fatally
shot Kirk on Wednesday. During an out to our event,
You tall Vallley, blah blah blah blah. All right, Dragon, Well,
I guess your job is to watch Fox. And let's
(17:13):
take that. Let's take that press conference if and when
we get to it, and let's see what the let's
see what Cash Betel and Dan Bongino have.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
To say about static at all. Static and all.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's right, But if you just dry off the wires,
get one of those you know, dust cans that you
blow dust off with and dry it off, or just
take your shirt. It's just an old T shirt anyway,
it's just no crappy, stupid T shirt. Just take that off. No,
don't take that off. Never mind, don't take that off.
Speaker 9 (17:46):
We're covering. Wolke had a great point that as legislation
around guns has gone up in Colorado, so have the
number of school shootings. So as all of us know,
gun legislation is not preventing school shootings or other crimes
because well, criminals don't follow laws. Crazy idea. Why have
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more gun legislation when the current stuff does not work?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Well, Dragon, she's finally jumped Shark. I would as much
finally off the deep end.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
As much as I like her, though I wouldn't always
say that correlation does not make them equal causation. Just
because there are more red cars on the road does
not mean it is not equal to the fact that.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I've gotten a raise. I gotta raise because I got
a raise, not because.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I'm talking about her comment that the criminals don't follow
the law.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
She is absolutely right about that, but it.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Is wow, I never thought about that.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
News to me.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I know, let's let's research that before we let's edit
that out of the podcast, just in case somebody thinks
that we believe that chrome don't follow the laws.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Right, that's all on her, not on us, right, that's not.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We were not buying into that premise yet. However, I
am buying into this premise. So I'll be quite honest
with you. I forgot to do my Michael Brown minute
last night because I was distracted by a bunch of
other stuff going on. And I woke up this morning
and I was up exceptionally early this morning for some reason.
(19:24):
And then I realized, oh, I think I left it
on the printer that CO tapped to my office, and realized, oh,
I never did one last night. So I frantically looked
for a story and I come across the story and
you can imagine see if you can spot why this
particular headline caught my attention, and I thought, oh, this
I think would probably make a good Michael Brown minute.
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This is over at the Colorado sun two hundred dead
fish in Colorado Reservoir have local groups concerned over climate
changes impact on mountain waters. With a changing climate in
the mix, local groups are worried more fish kills and
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higher pollution levels are in the future. Naturally, it catches
my attention, right, we got dead fish everywhere, dead fish.
In August, Kurt Dall, Pitkin County's environmental health manager, headed
up to Grizzly Reservoir to investigate reports of dead fish
along the banks of the mostly drained lake. Now there's
(20:32):
my first clue. Now mostly drained because if the lake
has dried up because there's been a lack of moisture
or snow melt, I'm not sure I would say that
the lake had been drained. For example, you know occasionally
at horse Tooth they I forget, maybe it's been in
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the past few years, they drained Horse Tooth Reservoir in
order to go through and you know, clean up the silt,
you know, get all the dead bodies that have been
buried there and all the stuff, all the crap out
and then let the lake refill. That's draining the lake.
But if Horse Tooth Reservoir or Gross Reservoir or any
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of the other reservoirs in the mountains are at a
lower level because there's been a lack of snow melt,
or there's been a lack of rain, there's been a
lack of runoff. Don't I would not use the verb drained.
I would say, yeah, they're they're a little dry, they're
a little low. For example, in New Mexico, where there's
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a there's a giant reservoir not far from where the
undisclosed location is. We have noticed as we cross the
mountain pass that one of us will comment, oh, the
lake seems to be high, or the lake seems to
be low. We never say, oh, look they've drained the reservoir. No,
we just think it's higher low. Dall says that on
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August nineteenth, we walked three quarters of the lake and
there were approximately one hundred and fifty dead fish, estimating
there were an additional fifty fish in the part of
the shore they didn't cover, so maybe two hundred dead fish.
Colorado Park and Wildlife had just stocked the lake with
(22:23):
rainbow trout a week prior. Okay, do you think maybe
they tested the water before they did? Well, as a
matter of fact, they did the agency said it tested
the reservoir and conditions were fine to release the fish,
(22:46):
but within the waters lurked a quote remarkably high concentration
of copper.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So the condition were fine to release the fish, but
when you tested the water you found a remarkably high
concentration of copper. The next sentence discloses everything. This year,
warm temperatures and less water flowing into Grizzly Reservoir allowed
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the metals concentration to reach a deadly threshold. No waitte,
you say it's a remarkably high in the first half
of the paragraph, and then admit in the second In
the last sentence of the paragraph, that the concentration of
copper had reached a deadly threshold. So, Colorado Parks and Wildlife,
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Oh what is it? You? You? You went to the fishery,
you collected a bunch of beautiful rainbow trout, You hauled
their asses over to Pitkin County to to over to
the reservoir, and you dumped them in there, knowing that
there was a deadly level of copper in the water.
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Local groups are worried more fish kills and higher pollution
levels are in the future.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
In the future. They're not worried about the currently dead fish.
They're only worried about dead fish in the future. Lisa Tasker,
who represents the Roaring Fork Watershed on Picking Counties Health
Rivers and Streams Advisory See, there's a great example, Kathleen Chandler.
Kathleen needs to get people onto Pitkin County's Health, rint,
Rivers and Streams Citizen Advisory Board. Yes, so you could
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be the antidote to the dumbastery that goes on over there.
How many issues are we going to bump into, like
into like the summer, Like I don't know, Like we
got to find out, like like like Gross Reservoir ten
and forty two feet in a remote alpine area Picking County.
There are on site caretakers that travel through the Twin
(25:02):
Lakes Tunnel beneath Independence Pass to get to work. Is
owned by the Twin Lakes Reservoir and Canal Company. Is
part of a larger diversion system that moves water from
the western slope over to the Arkansas River basin and
then on down in the front range so that we
can have some water to drink and bathe and shower,
which I know most of you have not done yet.
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The Environmental Protection Agency determined that the Ruby mine contributed
less than less than five percent of the contaminants in
the Grizzly reservoir. The rest came from natural geology. Another
fishkill happened back in twenty twenty three and then again
in August. So maybe if you're telling me that copper
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is naturally occurring, I mean, come on, think about copper
naturally occurs in the mountains. Why do you think we
have abandoned copper mines? And frankly, we have active copper
mines in Colorado because there's copper in the mountains. So
as the rain falls on the mountains and leeches through
into the ground water and leaches and flows into the streams,
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and the streams flow into the reservoirs, don't you think
the copper kind of follows the water and it ends
up in the reservoirs. Oh my gosh, but here's the
coup de gross. Diane McKnight, a CU professor, says what
may be happening due to climate warmer summers and drier
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summers in the Lincoln Creek watershed is also happening across
the Colorado mineral belt.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So if the coppers already in the water and the
water levels are starting to drop because of drought like
lack of rainfall like a snow melt, naturally the concentrations
are going to get higher because there's less water, so
the coppers as diluted as if the reservoirs were completely full.
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But if it's not raining, and if it's not there's
not snow melt, then there's no runoff to collect in
the rivers to make it to the reservoir to increase
the copper level. So it's the copper level is naturally increasing,
and so it must already be when you tested it,
as you said in the very first paragraph, already at
a deadly level. But no, let's let's claim climate change.
(27:33):
But then listen to this. In a written statement to
the Coldraada's Sun, the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Department declined
to share the exact level of acidity, but they said
it was within normal limits. Who the freak's telling the
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truth in this article. You're telling me it's at deadly levels.
You're telling me it's at I are the normal levels,
And then you're telling me but we're not going to
tell you what the levels are?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Seems to me that we just want a narrative that
fish have died. We found some dead fish in this
all screen climate change. What insanity?
Speaker 10 (28:20):
This is, Kathleen, And yes, I'm on it. Pitkin County.
Send me an email with all the details. But here's
a little note. Do I really listen to you that
much that you can just like call me out on
the radio?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Well?
Speaker 10 (28:32):
I guess so have a great Friday.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I think every googer that listens to this program is
fair game for me to call out on the radio,
every single one of you.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
At the trucker with the laugh girl.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Dad, we are vicious. We're truly, we're truly a holes
and there we just don't we don't spare anybody. He goes, well,
I'm perfect, Dragon's almost perfect, and so we just want
(29:07):
you to live up to our standards, and when you don't,
we have to call you out. And Kathleen, I don't
know that there's any openings on this Pitkin County. What
the hell was it called? Now? I got to find
that stupid I think I've closed that tab already. Now
here it is, what's it called? It's called the Pitkin County.
(29:29):
Uh was the watershed something? It's the Pitkin County Health
Rivers and Streams Citizen Advisory Board. Now, when I read
that in the story this morning, the first thing, which
(29:49):
is really pathetic, The first thing I thought of, was
Kathleen Chandler at the Independence Institute. Who does this? I apologize,
well that I don't because I just don't care. I
forget the exact name of the of the program that
she does, which is about teaching you, the other goobers,
how to become involved at the local level and this.
(30:12):
And when I read that there is something called the
Pitkin County Health Rivers and Streams Citizen Advisory Board. What
a great thing to serve on if you live in
Pitkin County. I mean, they probably have meetings at the
little now so, you know, at the hotel's your own,
so you get you get to go to a really
nice hotel. They probably have, you know, because it's a
it's a special district kind of board. They probably have
(30:33):
really nice food, you know, nice finger food or nice
lunch whatever. And you get to be on the board.
And when they start talking about climate change, if you're
on this board, you can say whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on a minute, Hold on a minute. Why do
we have higher levels of Why why do we have
deadly levels of copper in this reservoir? And by the way,
(30:53):
why is the Color of Parks and Wildlife Department not
releasing the analysis of the content of the water. And
yet somehow we're supposed to. If someone told you that
X is true, and I have the truth for X
(31:15):
in this bag, but you can't see in the bag.
Maybe it's just me. I would immediately be suspicious of
what's in the bag. I would immediately be suspicious of
what you're telling me. Oh, here's the truth, here's the proof,
but you can't see it. Really, then I don't believe
you prove to me.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So when they.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Tell you that, oh, there were first of all, it
was highly concentrated, and CPW says it was okay to
release the trout, But then you find out later that
they won't tell the board exactly what the levels of
copper were. I want to know why, and if you
were on this board, see this is where you start
(31:59):
making change. I know everybody wants to be president. Everybody
wants to be a congressman or senator or a governor
or state, repro state, you know, senator whatever, which is fine,
you know, if if that's your if that's your thing,
go for it. But change, real, significant change begins at
stupid little boards like this, because that's where the Democrats
(32:25):
have been so effective at planting people on these places
so they can count all their bull crap. And they
count all that bull crap and the next thing, you know,
that becomes public policy. For Yeah, go check out ie
two I dot org and then just search for the
(32:46):
local government something. I apologize, Bethlee. I don't have the
name of it, but you'll find you'll find it on
on the website. Gosh. Now I'm driving traffic to Caldera's website.
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