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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael. I just have to chuckle that clip of the
Bernie Sanders rally. It just reminds me of those that
are eating their own. You cannot reason with unreasonable people,
and everybody in that situation is unreasonable. They're all just
unreasonable together. I just I find it so funny and
I keep chuckling because it reminds me of spoiled children.
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Beyond spoiled children.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Truthfully, I don't think I did that story justice because
the sound bite is dragons. Do you have that?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I'm hunting it down right now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Okay, I'll see if I got a link to it.
The SoundBite is hilarious. So here are these two black
girls on each side of the podium. Here's some nuneb
nut from Maybe they're in Vermont. I don't know where
they are, but he looks like a Vermonter because he's
got kind of a you know, the uh. He's got
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a straw hat on, and he's got the handheld microphone
and he's trying to introduce Bernie, who's standing in the back.
Bernie's kind of looking around like, you know, hey, look
at me here, I am here I am and can't
get you know, can't get ready to shut up, and
the girls aren't just screaming, they're jumping up and down
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and kind of jumping and leaning into the lectern where
the guy where the poor guy's just like, I'm gonna
shut it down. And then of course you notice he's
shifted and said, now you're gonna you're shutting it down.
You're shutting it down. And then Bernie's final like, you know,
let's just go. We can't do this anymore. So that's hilarious.
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And to your point, Kathleen, that's exactly right. They're eating
their own I mean, what do they want. Bernie's there
to demand that kim will be put back on the air.
And while Bernie, as a United States Senator is demand
next star put Kimmel back on the air, he's denigrating
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Donald Trump for demanding that Kim will be taking off,
which is not true. But the cognitive dissonance is well,
it's over the top. I think that this next story,
which I did Saturday, but I want to do it
again for you, is one of the most underreported and
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I think should be a great example of how we
have systemic failures in this system and what Trump two
point zero and DHS is trying to do in terms
of deporting people is spot on FAFO, and I'm off
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this is what I voted for. As the kids like
to say on X this is what I voted for
the moint is I always low or just school district.
When that superintendent was detained by ice on Friday, the
story apparently startled parents, educators, and I guess anybody paying
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attention to the integrity of our institutions. If you think
that somehow our public institutions, government, school, whatever it might be,
that they have some sort of inherent integrity, then you
must be asleep. Doctor Ian Roberts. I want everybody to
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know this name because this is an example of just
and there may be an Ian Roberts in Colorado. After all,
we're a sanctuary state. I want to believe that this
is an aberration, but I know it's not. I think
what sticks out with me on this particular superintendent is
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that's his title, superintendent of a public school. I know
that people get For example, sometimes a company that's trying
to replace a key executive will hire a search firm.
You know they'll they'll hire No. I can't think of that.
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There's a huge I can't think anybody one of these
huge search firms that will do a nationwide search. These
headhunters will go out and find somebody and they'll come
up with two or three names, and they'll give the
two or three names to the company or the school
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district that's looking for a key official in this case
of superintendent, and say, here are three people that meet
qualifications that we've vetted, that we've done, you know, our
due diligence, and we because you're paying us a bunch
of money. Remember, the taxpayers have not only paid the
salary of as superintendent, but they were all they paid
a search firm to go find this guy. So doctor
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Ian Roberts. Doctor Ian Roberts has a final deportation order,
meaning that he had been detained by ice before, maybe
years ago, went before an immigration judge and received a
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removal order, a final deportation order, so he had his
due process. Well, he allegedly fled law enforcement. He comes
to it. I just find this so comical and maddening.
At the same time they come to arrest him, he
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jumps in his car, tries to speed away and crashes
into some bushes or something, starts running hides in a
This is a superintendent of a school, runs and hides
in some bushes. Now in the car they find a
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loaded glock nineteen, a fixed blade knife, and I think
the final number was three thousand, three thousand dollars in cash.
Sounds like a bugout kit to me. You got a gun,
you got some cash, you got a knife. The only
thing missing is change of clothes. So it may be
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some credit, you know, credit cards in somebody else's name,
stolen credit cards or whatever. For months, he led thousands
of kids in the Des Moines School District. He set
policy for the for the Des Moines School District. He
enjoyed the prestige and the authority that comes with being
the superintendent of schools. You know, there are some superintendent
of schools who go on to become United States senators.
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And then that former superintendent of schools who totally screwed
up the Denver Public Schools becomes, you know, he fails upward,
becomes a US Senator, and now that he's you know,
kind of on the outs with the Democrats, wants to
be the governor of Colorado. Now I'm not alleging that
Michael Bennett is an illegal Lately and I'm just saying
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a superintendent is a position from which you can do
greater things, although I don't think there's anything much greater
than really trying to help educate the ute of this society.
But the question that this country's got to ask is unavoidable.
How did somebody with an outstanding removal order, with a
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criminal record, with criminal charges ever rise to the top
of a school district. How did a man technically in
violation of federal law gain the trust of an entire community?
Talk about somebody being asleep at the switch. This is
why I said on Saturday that for anybody who was
listening to me in Des Moines, Iowa, there needs to
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be recall petitions initiated immediately against the Des Moines school Board. Now,
the president of the Des Moines school Board I don't
have in front of me. She's come out and she
issued some sort of dumbass statement about how you know
you people should not be attacked you. Wait a minute,
what do you mean we shouldn't be attacking you. He's
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been your superintendent for years now. The first this is,
as I said, this is not the story about just
this one guy who's filing the law. It is about
systemic failure, and it's a window into the erosion that
you and I know that we have, this erosion of
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public trust. And it's also a great lesson and what
happens when the rule of law becomes well, yeah, maybe optional.
Why do we have immigrant laws to maintain order, fairness, accountability,
and to retain the sovereignty of this country. When your
enforcement of immigration law becomes selective, ignored for some, ruthlessly
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applied to others, the system itself loses credibility, and that
credibility is the backstone of a functioning society. Yet in
Ian Roberts case, you can't find credibility anywhere. Let's break
it down the first failure the bureaucracy. A final deportation
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order is the result of a legal process that should
have barred him from holding public office. Actually, let me
broaden it out even further. A final deportation order is
the result of a legal process that should have barred
him from working as the fry cook at MacDonald's, as
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the guy that assembles the at Taco bell, as the
producer of the situation with Michael Brown. Should not what
what what? Should not have had any of those things?
Yet the vetting by a national search firm and a
school board and apparently the database that's maintained by ICE.
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I mean, I assume the guy's got us. He had
to be getting a paycheck, so he had to have
a Social Security number. Isn't that social Security under in
the ICE database? And you find out he's working? Why
did it take so long to go finding? Now? ICE
didn't notify the school board, and the board obviously didn't
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know his legal status during the hunting process. Now why not? Dragon?
Do you remember when it seems like it's been just
only maybe a couple of years ago that you and
I were laughing about. You had to go redo all
of your I nine employment verification.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Had to show my Social Security card, had to show
my passport, all that kind of good stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
You were but you were working at that because I
remember you were. You were producing for me at the time,
but you still had to go do that stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I had to prove that I was still eligible to
be employed here.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, that's because you're redheaded, true, the red headed stepchild.
It's because you weren't a black guy from Yugata or
Guiana wherever the hell he was from ordinary Americans like
Dragon face background checks, employment verification at nearly every stage
of your life. I remember laughing at the time because
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remember they they had the furloughs for a while, and
I was gone for a few weeks, and I kept thinking, well,
at some point I'm going to get you know, I'm
gonna get called in and they're going to reverify all
of my stuff. I guess mine was a shorter period
of time than yours was or something. But they never
asked me for mine. But you have to have all
the documentation you ought to stupid I nine form. You
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have to do all of that stuff in order to
work legally in this country. American citizens do it all
the time, and there's a whole bureaucracy within the federal
government to track that stuff. You show ID to get
a job. You know, you pay taxes, secure your professional license.
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Yet here, in a position of immense public responsibility, the
system I'm not even sure the system looked away. I'm
not I think the system didn't even look. Then you
have the second failure. The second failure is public trust.
You're oversee again. Des moin the largest school district in Iowa.
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Schools or institutions that require adherence to rules, standards and
dare I say moral leadership, because a parent entrusts their
children to teachers and administrators, expecting that when they do so,
those people have competence, integrity, and respect for the rule
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of law. If the rug rats are told to follow
the rules while the superintendent ignores one of the most
consequential laws in the entire country and one of the
most hottest political issues in the entire country, that message
is corrosive and destructive to that school system. Hypocrisy at
the top doesn't stay at the top. It trickles down.
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It erodes respect for rules, authority in the social contract itself.
Parents ought to be able to assume. Maybe that's a problem.
That's an assumption that the adults in charge of their
children operate by the same standards that they demand of
everybody else, and that those parents themselves had to comply
with in order to Once they drop the rug rats
off at school, then they headed to work. I bet
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when they got that job, they had to prove that
they were American citizens. So when that assumption is violated,
confidence in the entire salystem collapses. And the third post,
probably most important, is this a case of selective enforcement.
Justice can't bend based on convenience, identity, social standing. The
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rules sensibly in this country I'll apply equally to everyone,
regardless of your application, occupation, regardless of your ideology, and
because this guy's black, regardless of your demographic profile. But
you know, and I know, if you're powerful, if you're
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politically sensitive, then you might get shielded. But ordinary slubs
like you, me and Dragon are held to the full
force of the law. That is the very definition of
selective justice, and that is corrosive to the idea of
this country as a nation of laws rather than a
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nation of preferences. In fact, I would say we really
are had become a nation of preferences. Now, if a
white if a white conservative school leader had a firearm
charge and a deportation order, do you think that the
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cabal would demand immediate resignation, not just of that individual,
but of everybody involved in the hiring and the perpetuation
of his employment. Year after year after year. We had
have op EDGs, we'd have social media blowing up, we'd
have social media campaigns insisting on accountability. But in this case,
oh no, not none of that. Well except in these
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quarters and some on my x timeline who were screaming
about this. Instead, what do we get, well, hesitation. Actually,
I think on the part of the Des Moines School board,
I think there's actual deference, identity status, perceived ideological alignment.
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Somehow are giving this guy immunity. It's not about prejudice,
it's not about racism. It's about principle. Justice that applies
to some and not others is not justice. Now, some
people are framing Roberts not as a man deifying a
lawful order. They're actually trying to frame him as a
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victim of ice. That's the narrative that's beginning to develop.
That's the very definition of identity politics of the Democrat
party in action shield the misconduct because the individual has
immutable characteristics. He has a certain pigmentation that says, oh no,
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cat can't question that. When you start excusing wrongdoing based
on your pigmentation, or your identity or your political sympathies,
that's not compassion. That's utter hypocrisy and hypocrisy. Once it
becomes cemented into an institution, becomes a cultural norm, and
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that weakens the foundation of governance and public life. I
think this school board, the school superintendent situation is a quintessential,
perfect example of how our institutions are failing. This is
a flashpoint because the lessons go far beyond des moin.
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This is a huge scandal. Superintendent detained by ice should
be an anomaly, a cautionary tale about the consequences of
ignoring the law. I think instead, I think we probably
have a pattern. I wonder how many more doctor Roberts
there are out there. I bet they're everywhere. The illegal
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to be the superintendent was Michelle Obama's chief of staff.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I think you're leaving that out of the story.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I haven't been able to quickly find that, so please, okay, source.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
But.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What does that have to do with the story about
this same guy? Yes, what's your point that apparently this
guy and I've never heard that work for Michelle Obama's
chief of staff. I don't know what who her chief
of staff was was an illegal alien?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Right, That's why this is the guy is implying, I believe,
so source, please, yeah, give me the dragon at iHeartMedia
dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, dragon at iHeartMedia dot com. So shortly after Charlie
Kirk got assassinated, Elon omar reposted a video on x
that called Charlie Kirk a reprehensible human being who was
viewing racist dog whistles in his last dying words, and
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then Republican House members saw an opportunity to censure the
squad member and remove her from her committee assignments. That
motion failed by a two hundred and fourteen to two
hundred and thirteen vote. She was asked later about her
comments on.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
CNN that you have to whitewash what he did, or
that you have to defend what he said or the
views that he held. But regardless of those views, do
you believe the timing of saying that the day after
that he was assassinated the comments there? Do you regret
the timing of those comments?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
So you think Charlie regretted mocking George Floyd's death as
his seven year old pled to the world on what
happened to her child. I think saying what Charlie did
and who he was has nothing to do with his assassination,
has nothing to do with the timing of his assassination.
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It is a matter of record.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
I asked, because the way former President Obama put it.
He also said he thought that Charlie Kirk's ideas and
views were wrong, But he said, and I'm quoting Obama, now,
we have to extend grace to people during their period
of mourning and shock. Does he have a point?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Yeah, I extend grace to his wife and kids. I
cannot imagine what they are going through. But the reality
is that his wife sat by him as he said
those things and did not tell him that these are
human beings who you are calling garbage, who you are
saying they don't have the brain power because they were
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born in a different skin color. Like I do not
understand how we are okay as a society with people
who say that about our fellow Americans, a fellow human
being and regard them as a hero. I just I'm sorry.
I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, you don't see it because you're blinded by your
hatred for this country. You're blinded by racism. You are
a black supremacist. But that's not the point of this
particular story. In typical Trump fashion, the President rekindled the
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year's long debate about whether or not that woman married
her brother in an attempt to get here in this country,
and whether or not the censure vote failed or didn't
fail by one voter. One thousand votes doesn't mean the
difference to me. A lot of conservatives are demanding her
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denaturalization and that she be deported to Somalia. Now, denaturalization
is allowed, like denaturalization is in some instances required in
cases of quote, concealment of a material fact or willful misrepresentation. Now,
don't get me wrong, I don't think there's a chance
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in hell that elon Omar is a city member of Congress,
is going to be one to prove my point. She
wasn't even censured for saying those things. CNN is even
taking the side of you know, don't you think there
was a little ill timed. Don't you think there's a
little inappropriate. She's not going to be denaturalized, She's not
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going to be deported. But it really got me to
thinking about because I've never really studied whether or not
she married her brother. But amid Omar date Trump fumed
that she was scum. I kind of think she's scum
to derided her country as Somalia and asked, quote, wasn't
she the one that married her brother in order to
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gain citizenship. That accusation is now almost a decade old.
It was prompted in part by court filings and a
trail of what I would simply call murky evidence. So
don't shoot the messenger, but I just want you to
think about this is how a narrative comes about and sticks.
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Just hear me out, because there's more to the story.
Public records show that she entered a religious marriage with
a man named Akmed Hersey in two thousand and two.
They separated in eight. She then legally, I said, a
religious marriage in this country you need a marriage license,
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which I happen to disagree with, but nonetheless that's the
current law. So she was in a religious marriage with
a guy named Ahmed Hersey in two. They separated in eight.
She then legally married.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The was they went to a courthouse, got a marriage license,
and I don't know whether they got married on a
mosque or whatever courthouse or whatever. Anyway they got legal.
She legally married Aukhamed near said l Me in nine.
A year later, el Me was a British citizen. He
later attended college in this country. It is el Me
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who some have suggested might be her brother. Now she's
consistently denied that the marriage with l Me ended in
eleven or two thousand and eleven because it's not eleven
two thousand eleven, but they didn't obtain a legal divorce
until twenty seventeen. During that period they were married, she
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reconciled with her SI, had another child with him, even
filed joint tax returns with him in twenty fourteen. In
twenty fifteen, despite being legally married to her alleged brother.
Fast forward to well, fast forward to twenty twenty five
years ago, the Daily Mail quoted an old friend Omar
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Abdi Kahi Kim I don't know Osman, who claimed that
Omar herself had described Elmi as her brother and admitted
to this guy that she married him to get the
papers that he needed to study in the United States.
This abde Hakim Osman claimed that Elm was introduced around
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Minneapolis as family, not necessarily brother, but just as family,
but that Omar told him explicitly she was helping her
brother get student loans. Now she's denied it. She's flatly
denied it, dismissing the story is baseless. But but she
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won't provide any documentary evidence to settle the matter. So
in twand eighteen, one conservative outlet discovered archived Instagram posts
that date back to twenty twelve that appear to show
el Me calling Elon Omar's daughter his niece. In twenty fifteen,
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their photos from a London trip that placed Omar alongside
el Me and relatives, all appearing under the shared surname
of el Me. Those posts are no longer available. Can't
independently verify them. The Star Tribune tried to confirm Elmy's identity,
but Rana's exactly the same problem. Somalian records are difficult
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to obtain. Omar herself declined and refuses to clarify. Now,
in a court room, I would use that as circumstantial evidence.
So you refuse to deny that he's your brother. It's
not a criminal case, it's just some civil lawsuit. She
refuses to answer the question. I'd like to get her
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in the courtroom. Have the judge answered, may you know,
assuming the question is relevant to the case. Have the
judge forced her to answer? Now, what's the background? Well,
it's caavenger hunt to find out whether this is true
or not is incomplete. But here's what's beyond doubt that
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her life today doesn't resemble anything to all the humble
origins that she tries to invoke about her beginnings in Somalia.
She was born in Mogadishu in nineteen eighty two, the
youngest of seven children. Her father was a colonel in
the Somalian Army. He brought that family to a Kenyan
refugee camp and then they eventually resettled in Minneapolis. That's
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where she grew up in public housing. That's where she
entered politics. She built her brand as the daughter of
a of refugees. She claimed to be a progress receive outsider,
weighed down by student debt, so she claims to be
the antithesis of a silver spoon congressman. Are you ready
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for this?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Though?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Her most recent financial disclosure reveals a net worth of
about thirty million dollars, a staggering increase of three thousand,
five hundred percent in a single year. The source of
that income. Hold on to your seats.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Hey, mykey, dragon, good morning?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
What a mass? Me or him? Both both of probably
right right? Yeah, both of him for leaving it, Me
for playing it? Yes, yes, And I was actually looking
at my notes and I can see how my peripheral
vision was hands waving in the air.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Old hold hold okay, wait wait wait, wait, Wait, it'd
be worth it.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Wait, it's going to be worth it. That was worth it,
of course. Okay, the earlier text message, we'll get to
that maybe at the top of the next style. Oh yeah,
because it also led me to look at some other
stuff too. Oh So, how did elon Omar who may
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or may not have married her brother? It's ambiguous, it's
not confirmed. Probably true, but I don't think it's confirmed.
I'm not going to sit here and say that she did.
I think it's likely she may have, but I don't
think that she I can't prove that she did. But
here's what's more interesting. She comes here as a refugee.
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She her net worth goes from base a couple of
thousand dollars I mean literally a couple of thousand dollars
to thirty million dollars under a year. Wow, Dragon and
I are in the wrong business. We really are. We
need to be in the congress business. The source of
her current fortune is her most recent husband. I've counted
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three now or four, three or four husbands now. His
name is Tim Minette. He is a venture capital firm,
Rose Lake Capital. Guess how much assets were under the
control of Rose Lake Capital in twenty twenty three. Dragon,
you want to take a guest here. You love numbers.
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How much assets did rose Lake Capital have in twenty
twenty three? I don't know. I don't know if I
could guess one thousand dollars. Oh would you look at that?
One thousand dollars. So I'll tell you what. Let you
and I all contribute the entire thousand dollars. You and
I will fore a What are we gonna call it?
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Not rose Lake Capital? But I heart retirement capital, I
heart escape Capital. Yeah, I heart Escape Capitol. I'll put
in one thousand dollars, but only if we can get
these returns. So they had one thousand dollars in assets
in twenty twenty three. It ballooned to twenty five million
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by the end of twenty twenty four. The board is
stacked with famous names like former senators, former ambassadors, and
their website at one time bragged about structuring legislation before
the word structuring got removed. Now it's gone from one
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thousand and twenty twenty three to twenty five million in
twenty twenty four. It now claims sixty billion in assets
under management. Now. At the time that Rose Lake Capital
took off. Minette owned a California winery East and Crew
that net worth went from fifty thousand to as much
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as five million. Now. Both of these companies have been
sued for fraud. Both of the cases have been settled,
But the overlap of Omar's official roles a congressman is
pretty clear because after the launch of this current husband's
asset management firm, Omar formed a Congressional USA Africa Policy
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Working Group, and she and and Nette have appeared at
events promoting investment in Africa, exactly the same kind of
opportunity that Rose Lake Capitol now pursues. At face value,
the arrangement is indistinguishable from influence peddling. So the same
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Omar who scorns politicians for leveraging their office for gain
is now doing it herself. You know, in America, socialists
have a funny way of always being millionaires and US
dumbass conservatives just sit here. Did my paycheck clear this week?
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Did yours come from my mind's pending? You know, because
it came early? Yeah. I always worry will it will
it go through? Will it? Will it? I need to
be a congress