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It's time to make a date orbreak on TIF in the morning, Hi
make a date or break back fromvacation, and it's where relationships and therapy
come together. On my show withLori sharp Page, you guys know the
deal by now more than welcome toreach out to us with whatever you want.
You got it, You got theopen phone line here five one three

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seven four nine one seven one.However, we're gonna lead off with co
parenting love Good morning, Lauren.The rule on my shows if it comes
up in My life or Inner Circletwo or three times, then I think
we bring it to the air.And now for the third time. Over
my vacation, I talked to someonethat is co parenting a dog and I

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was like, I had even pickedhis brain on it. I said,
Ben, like, I'm I'm nojudgment, but I'm just curious on how
this works. I've heard of coparenting with with children, most millennial I
feel like, right, most millennialparents. Yeah, most millennials have parents
that co parent died right, wewere part of that big divorce generation.
But when it comes to a dog, I was so confused. And he

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was a third person that had purchaseda loving animal brought it into the family.
Then the relationship ended, but theywere both attached to the dog,
so they share custody rights of thedog, right, m Yeah, so
this is this is something that hasbeen happening increasingly over the past I would
say fifteen years, as people aremore likely to be living together or to

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be kind of in a committed relationshipearly on and bringing in a pet,
and what happens, Like you said, you named it so well, like
everybody loves the pet. But ifthe relationship doesn't work, how do we
support both people to continue to havethat relationship. And that's where the co
parenting comes from. Now, Iwill tell you about fifteen years ago,
I was in a situation where Iwas co parenting a pug with my ex.

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Yeah, and the way it endedup is Oldultimately I got the pug
because he moved. He didn't wantto stick around. So, you know,
I think that there's a lot ofpeople will do this to start with,
and it doesn't necessarily work for thelong haul. But I have had
some clients that have had long termrelationships where they're co parenting with their ex
partner over the dog. Okay,you didn't work for you? Because the

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person they left and they said,we no longer want to be a part
of this. Yes, exactly,which is what I'm used to. I
had some friends early on in lifewhen I was growing up that they their
parents had split up and one parenttook the dog and that was the end
of it. Dad is totally totallychanged within like you said, the last
fifteen even early even like really thelast five years. How you can tell

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them trip it up? Because I'mwell, it is a different thing,
and how does it work? Ijust work. I have not always seen
it in both my personal and professionallives. I have not always seen it
work out for the long haul.I think this is often something that happens
at the beginning of the relationship,kind of like you know, or the
beginning of a breakup, kind oflike, oh, we'll still be friends,
We're still going to do this,We're still going to do that.

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The reality is co parenting an animalis like hardcore, like sharing custody back
and forth. That adds more dimensions. And then we get into situations where
okay, animal needs care, animalneeds medical attention. Now we're talking about
finances, time, all these differentthings. It becomes a very complex road
to navigate. Sure, I'm notsaying that people can't navigate it. I
just see that often these arrangements kindof tail off over a year. In

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my situation, my ex left,but I think even if he had stayed
in town, everything was rolling forme to take care of the dog.
Okay, so you've seen it workout, which is great because I definitely
don't want to turn anyone away fromdoing it. If they're already doing it,
that's good. It's working for you. On the I want to ask
one more question before we start openingup our phone lines. If I start
dating somebody that is co parenting adog, what is your recommendation for that?

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Because I'm walking into this like it'snot a red flag. I'm just
so new to it. I don'tknow how, I don't know. I
don't think it's a red flag either. I mean, I think to be
able to maintain a co parenting relationshipof any kind with your AXSS like snaps,
that's a hard thing to do.Okay. I also would not get
too attached to that dog though,I just wouldn't because I think that it

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again, it's it's not really clearif that dog's gonna be with you and
that new partner for the long haulif you stay in that relationship. But
also you know, if you leave, there's already two other people that love
that dog. Just I'm having ahard time, guys, So before I
say something, I'm gonna regret.Five one three seven four nine one oh
seven one. Are you co parentingwith a pet? Right now? Thank

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you? Good morning? You're wakingup with Tiff in the morning on Kiss
one oh seven one on Tuesdays.It is where relationships and therapy come together
with Lori sharp Page on the showcalled Make a Date or Break. So
we were in the midst of talkingabout co parenting as dog owners, right
and if your ears are perking up, like, oh I actually do that,

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you're gonna want to go back andlisten to the podcast on that.
But this is also where we openup our phone lines five one three seven
four nine one oh seven one.If this has happened to you, or
if you just have a question forLori sharp Page, Good morning, you're
on the air. Question how doyou all think about continuing a business with
your ex? Oh? Okay,that is a good one. Okay.

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So we were in the midst oftalking about co parenting a pet. But
I do like this question. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Laurie,
you lead the Okay. I thinkthat that gets into a very complex
space. Now not impossible. Idefinitely don't want to say that that can't
be done. There are a lotof people that are no longer together and
an intimate relationship that's still run abusiness together. But running a business is

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an intimate relationship as well, Andwhen we are trying to dismantle one intimate
relationship and keeping another one open,it's complex. I would say it really
comes down to the level of supportyou guys have. And I also think
that that kind of runs into kindof some legal stuff and some financial off
on how you've separated the business.It's doable, but with a lot of

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intention and care. And I alsowould be curious, you know, for
you where the cost benefit is?Is Is it worth all that intention and
care? It's not. Because I'min Cincinnati and he's in Dayton, and
I was driving up there and stayingthere for four and five nights a week,
and then the night before we weresupposed to go on a business trip,

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he proceeds to tell me that hedoesn't want to be together. Anymore
wants to be friends with benefits andis now talking to somebody else. Oh,
and that to me, but Idon't know. That sounds like a
person I don't even want to beinvolved with, never mind in business with.
Yeah. Yeah, this is theperson that has helped raise my children
for the last year. And justrandomly was like, oh, yeah,

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by the way, I'm seeing somebodyelse as I'm walking out the door to
go to the grocery store. Whatwould you free? What would you call
that person? Laurie? Uh?Is that what that is? I mean,
I think it could be a lotof different things, but I think
the main one that we can sayis emotionally immature, because that required more

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of a conversation than just a dipin, dip out. Well, yeah,
what was your name of what neighborhoodyou calling me from this morning?
Andrea and I live in behavior Andrea, are you going to make your next
date or are you going to breakit off with this guy? And this
in regards to your business? Whatdo you think at this point, I

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really don't even want to have anycontact with I'm just trying to figure out
how we can legally if it wouldbe beneficial to just dissolve the company or
just try and go for it,because we have current orders that are due
for Like we own a clothing companyand have current orders that are needing to

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be processed when he's just like blowingeverything off, and now I have clients
messaging me like, hey, what'sgoing on, and I'm like, yeah,
I would get clear on where youstand, and then I would get
real clear on how we best getthis business to support you. And that
may be a dissolution, that maybe some other legal strategy, but I

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think you know it sounds to melike you know pretty clearly where you stand
on this. Yeah. Well here'swhat we're gonna do, though, once
you figure it out and if youwrap, if you continue to decide to
go with your business moving forward onyour own, once you get organized,
to call me back and we'll makesure we get it out on the air
so you can kind of start fresh. Thank you. Yeah, you're waking

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up with SIF in the morning onKiss one O seven to one. Good
morning. We're back with Lori Sharpage. We're back from vacation, which means
we have a lot of things tocatch up on with make a date or
break or therapy and relationships kind ofcome together. On Tuesday Mornings on the
show, thoughts on co parenting witha pet that's been the big conversation.
Thoughts on co parenting with business likethat. Co parenting has come up a

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lot. Yeah, yeah, well, and I think it speaks to,
you know, just the complexities ofour world and the fact that we are
all looking to take care of ourselvesand also the people and animals that we
love, but also you know,some things don't work out and we got
to figure out how to Readjust boomersare saying right now, it's so non
traditional. How are you going tonavigate this? And it's just well,
that's the thing. You just learnhow to navigate, you do. And

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I think it makes it all ofus stronger. I will say, though,
if I meet up with another guythat's co parenting a dog with someone
else, I mean, is itme? This is like the second or
third time that this has come up. I don't think it's just you.
I think it's just something that is. It is more and more frequent.
But I think the things you gotto be windful for is you know,
is it what if it's not adog? What if it's a different type

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of animal. That's when you're reallygonna have a different animal. I had
a couple ones that was trying todecide if they could co parent a cat,
and and the thing about that is, you just can't take cats back
and forth. It just doesn't work. It doesn't work out. No,
cats do not like to leave thehouse. I don't like water or new
environments right right, So, Imean, like I think cats, lizards,

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there could be all sorts of otherragements out there unless you're a feral
cat like me. Laurie Sharpage joinedus every Tuesday. You're more than welcome
to reach out to her on Instagramat the Coping Queen if you just have
a direct question you want to askher. That's always a great way to
get in touch, if you canhang with me. Coming up two songs

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