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May 27, 2024 20 mins

On this episode of Our American Stories, Cubby Hall has been a mayor, a garbage woman, a liquor store owner, a pioneer in the Women's Army Corps (WAC), and a teacher in a one-room schoolhouse. In her words, she's "seen it all." Here's her story.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
And we returned to our American stories. Up next, a
story on the trailblazing woman who's lived her life to
the fullest. Here's our own Monty Montgomery to get us started.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Rebecca Cubby Hall is a firecracker. She's been mayor in
the Army, a teacher, and at one point owned a
liquor store, which is important for some context in regards
to the stories she's about to tell. Here's Cobby.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
My sister in Saint Louis has always been religious, and
I went to Saint Louis years ago to visit with
her and they were going church, and the church was
a big, old, old building, and I was shocked because
I thought they'd be in one of these big fancy

(01:03):
cathedral type things, but it wasn't. It was an old building,
but it had a big congregation. And the Sunday school
class was on alcohol drinking, and I thought, boy, I've
been set up here. And then the sermon was on

(01:24):
selling alcohol, and I knew I'd had it then. And
I was sitting right next to my sister and I
let it go on and on. He went on and
on and on, and pretty soon I just stood up.
I said, may I say something, yes, you may well.

(01:44):
I wound up talking twenty minutes, and I couldn't find
any place to shut up. I said, you know, God
says he didn't want you to mistreat your body because
you belonged to him. I said, look at the people
in here, all too heavy, their teeth needed repair. I
just went on and on and on, and so finally

(02:08):
I sat down and they clapped, and the preacher thanked
me for doing that. So when he finished his sermon,
and I sat right next to my sister, and she
didn't say a word. And so when he was finished,

(02:30):
I thought, boy, I got to get out of here,
and I rushed back to the door, but he beat
me back there, and he grabbed my hand and patted
it and patted it, didn't thanked me, and went on
and I stood right there and shook hands with every
person that came out of that church. And then we

(02:52):
went to my sister's house and I got punished there.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
How he was born in August of nineteen thirty four.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
It hasn't been many years ago that I had lived
longer without electricity than I had lived with it. And
my grandfather homesteaded and then he had brothers and sisters
and my dad, and they kind of cut it up

(03:26):
and let everybody have a piece of it. And my
dad they gave the old farmhouse he was born in there.
I was born in that farmhouse. And when I was born,
my dad worked on the highway and he had a
team of mules and he had to leave, and of
course he couldn't come home every night because they'd be

(03:48):
too far with mules to come. But he always told
my mother to take care of the cub bear. And
that's how I got the name Covey. And right next
or we had what we called a garage, but it
had a daddy butcher, and we always took the bladder

(04:09):
of the pig and cleaned it good and blow it
up and use it for it lasts for weeks. You
use it for a volleyball and what have you. And
we had chickens, and we always had chicken for lunch
on Sunday and we go to church. But before we

(04:30):
went to church, it was my job to get the
chicken ready early. And I'd go catch a chicken and
put a board across the head bull its feet and
pull its head off and hold it down and sometimes
let it flop around but I had a hot water
out there and scald it, you know, pluck it, and

(04:56):
then i'd take it in the house after I got
it cleaned and after we washed it real good mom,
and let it soak in salt water while we went
to church. But that was always my job, and that
was just there's nothing to it. Just grab that chicken
and take care of it. Off we'd go to Sunday
school then, but I wasn't the only one. Everybody around

(05:20):
here did the same thing. And we went to town on Saturdays.
But you let it snow, but we went down on
Saturday because in town, in New Show, they had a
truck with a big wire barrel on it and they

(05:43):
had everybody's name in it, and they'd pull out a
name and they got one hundred dollars bill from the
merchants in town. So we never did miss Saturday. But
we never did get one hundred dollars either. But we
always Mom always packed a lunch and we went in
the spring party. It was a good love. But I

(06:09):
will have to say I was always a straight f
student grade school through high school. And I mean f
I was real bashful, couldn't talk or anything. But when
I started high school freshman year here at Niwshaw. I
had a teacher, missus Dorothy Fall, who realized that I

(06:34):
wasn't just a moron, and she asked me if I
would come in on my study hall period and clean
her room and she would tutor me while I was
doing that. Well, I was happy, and she had the
cleanest room in school because I knew how to clean.

(06:55):
But anyway, later on, after I got old, I ran
for the city council and really won, and Bob Hayes
ran that same year, and when our first council meeting,

(07:20):
they elected me uh uh mayor pro tem and Bob
was mayor. And then Bob, I'm sorry to say, had
the audacity to have a heart attack that night and
could not be on the council anymore. So I automatically

(07:41):
became mayor of New Show and then after the first term,
I was elected mayor the second time. And that's when
we had that big tornado and my teacher, Dorothy Fall,
whom I loved. She and her mother lived at the
corner of Kodiak and Norway, and they were both killed

(08:05):
in that tornado as it came through there. And I
was always so proud that she lived to see me
become mayor because she brought me out of the desk.
I'll tell you she was a wonderful woman and that's
probably the most exciting thing I ever did.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And you've been listening to Rebecca Cubby Hall tell her story.
Born in nineteen thirty four, lived a long part of
her life without electricity. Give you a context that there
was life before us here in this great country. Take
care of the cupbear, her father would say to her mother.
That's how Cubby became her nickname. And it's stuck. And

(08:50):
by the way, when asked to go get the chicken
before church, it did not entail a trip to Kroger
or Pigley Wiggly or Ralph's. It meant get the chicken.
And anyone who lives a rural life knows what that means.
Back then, when we come back, more of this unique
and original voice, but not so unique to you who
live out in parts of this great country that live

(09:12):
like this and live in the rural parts of the country,
especially more with Cubby Hall's story, trailblazing woman here on
our American story. And we returned to our American stories

(09:41):
and our story with Rebecca Cubby Hall. When we last
left off, Kubby was telling us about her upbringing, about
how terrible a student she'd been straight f's, he said,
and also told the story about how one teacher changed
her life, and that teacher missed. Dorothy Fall would ultimately
lose her life to a tornado, but thanks to that

(10:03):
teacher's intervention, well, Cubby would one day become mayor of Niosha,
something she was glad that her teacher got to see
before that tragedy. Let's turn just a bit back further
through her teenage years. Here again is Cubby Hall.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I had a paper route in kept Crowder. Crowder was
in full swing, about seventy thousand men over there and
women over there. And that's why I joined the army,
because I saw those WAX. I didn't know any of them,
never spoke to one, but I liked the way they looked.
And that was the Women's Army Corps. There was no

(10:48):
women's Army then. Nobody now even knows what WAX stands for.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
But Rebecca's mother wasn't too fond of the idea of
her daughter joining the army.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Oh I wanted to go so badly, and by her
not wanting me to probably made me want to do
it more. But my dad never did say yes, go ahead,
and my mother never did say no, you can't do it.
So I did. I joined the army and my dad.
My mother wouldn't even tell me goodbye. She wouldn't go

(11:23):
with me to kin City. My dad took me in.
I caught the bus. I think it was about ten
thirty or eleven at night, Greyhound bus, and my dad said, now, cub,
don't ever do anything that when it gets down to
the nitty gritty, you can't tell your ma and me.

(11:44):
I think about that all the time. I think that's
the best advice anybody could ever have given a kid.
But anyway, I went in the army loved I was
stationed the whole time at Fort Jack in South Carolina,
and they there, my commanding officer sent me to Fort Slocum,

(12:07):
New York, to what they called Troop Information and Education School,
And that's where I became a teacher, and I taught,
among other things, I taught how to take it in
one apartment, clean it and put it back together. I
taught pe and I taught the history of the military

(12:27):
and chemical warfare, of which I remembered none of it now.
But I didn't have any way to go to town
ever because of my job. The buses didn't run after
I got off work. I went to work late and
got off really late, and so I just bought me

(12:47):
a motorcycle. I had never ever been close to a
motorcycle in my whole life, never seen one other than
just it driving by. But I bought a nineteen forty
seven Harley Davison. When I bought my motorcycle, I went

(13:11):
into this shop. I just happened to see it when
I got off the bus, and I told him I
bought the best bargain you have in this place, and
he said, well, it's that one right over there. It
was a nineteen forty seven I can't remember. It wasn't
a great big one, but it was two hundred dollars.
So I paid him cash for it. He gave me

(13:33):
a receipt and I said, now, if you'll show me
how to ride it, i'll leave. And he said, if
I had have known that you didn't know to ride that,
I wouldn't have sold it to you. But he had
a big field out behind his shop. So we went
out there and he showed me how you had to

(13:55):
change gears with your foot, and I rode round and
round and across that field and around it. But I
wasn't confident, and I left it for about two weeks,
and every opportunity I got, I went out rode that motorcycle.
Of course, we weren't allowed to wear pants. We had

(14:15):
dresses and Bobby's socks. I just took that old dress
out of them in one day I was out there
ride it took about two weeks. I just rode out
the gate and kept it going. Except it was kind
of scary at first. That I got used to it,

(14:36):
loved it, and if I could afford it now and
we're younger.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I'd buy a motorcycle right now.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It was need.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
But the only problem I ever had with them were
the guys in my office. There were forty men that
worked in my office, and they were always wanting to
borrow my motorcycle, and I let some of them. I wouldn't,
and I got out of my time, was up re enlisted,

(15:08):
and they made me get out because I got married.
Women cannot be married and be in the service. And
then we came back here and went to college to
get my bachelor's degree to be an elementary teacher, and
it only took me nine years because I had jobs
in between. And the first school I taught in was

(15:30):
a one room school. I had twenty eight students, boys
and girls, first grade through eighth grade. Loved every minute
of it, did Moe Challenger work. And we had two
outside toilets, boys and girls. And my contract read that

(15:55):
I would scrub the outside toilets with hot soapy water
every Friday night. We didn't even have running water. It
was a fun time and I hardly ever got to
sleep because I was so busy getting lesson plans and
looking up and doing it. And we had a set
of world books that's how we looked things up. And

(16:17):
to make copies, I had a hectograph machine that was
like a wooden book. You opened up and it had
jelly in it, and then you washed that jelly, and
then you used an indelible pencil to write on paper,
and you write that and you wet the jelly, put

(16:38):
your paper on their rub it, then take your paper
up and then put a clean sheet of paper on it,
and that would make one copy. Then you had to
do that all again. Take enough copies for however many
students you had, and so I was constantly making copies,
and I couldn't let the students do it because they'd

(17:00):
see the test if it were a worksheet. I did
let him do.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
It, and Rebecca would have her son, Doug in the
middle of the school year. Becoming a mother didn't slow
her down, though.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Doug was born in November and I, well, I started
to school and then I realized, boy, I can't do this.
So herround went to the hospital and Doug was born
on Thursday, and I took him to school with me
on Monday in a clothes basket. So he started pretty young,
and the younger kids, even boys, would want to hold

(17:36):
him why he was asleep. The older girls, which said,
crucify me for now. But everybody there lived on farms
and they've blown to four eight and everything. The older
the seventh and eighth grade girls would take care of
Doug during the day. If he went to sleep, we'd

(17:56):
let one of the little girls or little boys whole
why slept. They didn't care for Brody. As long as
I had school. I did eight years in a one
room schoolhouse and we had real slate blackbrds. You could
really clean them.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
It should come as no surprise given her penchant for
doing the dirty work, so to speak, that Rebecca also
worked as a garbage woman. She had a unique way
of handling the job because she couldn't lift the heavy
bins by hand.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I ran a house to house and I wouldn't get
the trash can ready because there's always trash around them.
Pick it up and put it in the can, and
then after the guys would dump it in the truck.
They just throw the can down on the ground and
all the trash that's left in it comes out. So

(18:53):
I would pick all that up and put the lid
back on it, and people actually came out and they
had bring me and cookies and ice cream and stuff.
Be easy to gain weight on a trash route.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
She never stopped teaching, though, even in her work around
the city.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I got a grant from the government to get twelve
high school boys that were in trouble with the law
and needed their GED, and took them around with me
and I would sing the multiplication tables for their ged,
because there's no way you're going to make those boys
sit down and work for their GED. And one of

(19:35):
them actually became the superintendent of the superintendent of the
streets in Yosho. After that, those boys were a pleasure
to work with, really a pleasure. We never had any
problems at all. I ain't afraid of anybody or anything.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I've done it all.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
And a special thanks to Katrina Hine and Monty Montgomery
for the work on that story. And a special thanks
to Cubby Hall. The story of Rebecca cubby Hall, trailblazing woman.
Here on our American Story
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