May 13, 2025 • 30 mins
"Get the scoop on US Army's 250th birthday celebration that starts with a day of remarkable activities and ends with a fabulous dinner." www.armyheritage.org/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Sylvia Moss, and this is Insight, a presentation
of iHeartMedia where we really do care about our local
communities and all our listeners who live here. As Americans,
we say that we love our veterans, and after all,
we do have special days, parades, and even statues to
honor them, But how many of us have taken the
time to really learn about each of the men and
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women that served them in our military, Things like why
they made such a remarkable and unselfish commitment to so
many people They didn't even know or maybe never would
know what their daily lives were like while they were serving.
Their thoughts down to the bottom of it. It's pretty
much don't even care about their personal stories anyway. The
two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the US Army is
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June fourteenth, and it's a perfect time not only to
celebrate these truly brave men and women, it's also an
opportunity to begin our journey of finding out exactly who
these soldiers were as individuals and understanding why my guests
likes to say military history is American history. Guests today
have a long ago made a commitment to the military
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with us Robert Desusa, the board chair, and Julie Germany,
board president of the US Army Heritage Center Foundation in Carlisle.
They're here to introduce you to the US Army Heritage
and Education Center, which is an incredible place in Carlisle
that provides all kinds of ways for you to learn
about the history of the US Army, one soldier at
a time. In addition, we're going to find out why
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the US Army Heritage Center was recently named one of
the top ten free museums in the US by Newsweek magazine. Last,
and certainly not least, Bob and Julie want to invite
you to the US Army Heritage Center Foundation's two hundred
and fiftieth birthday party, which is planned for June fourth. Guys,
as I was telling Bob, I was telling Julia a
little earlier, I can hardly wait to talk about this.
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This is long, long overdue. And when I was gathering
my notes yesterday, I thought about my nephew's little boy,
who since he was six years old, he's loved this stuff.
So right away I text him, you got to check
this website and he said, oh, and Sylvia, thank you
so much for me there this, I thought, oh, this
is great because every American needs to be there, and
it's for every American.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I want to ask you, first of all, and I'm
sure Julie, I won't mine. First of all, you're a veteran.
Thank you so much for your service, honest to God.
Tell us a little bit about your service.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, very much appreciate that I went in a little
abnormal route. Let's say I was thirty three years old
when I went, and I was direct commissioned in the
Judge Advocate General's Corps, and I spent twenty eight years
in uniform as a guardsman and a reservist. I'm an
Iraq War veteran, and i retired from the military when
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I hit age sixty. I was the state Judge Advocate
at that point, in charge of all of the army
and air judge advocates in the Pennsylvania Guards. It was
a great pleasure to serve the country in that fashion,
to serve the commonwealth, and had a great time doing it.
The army is one of those places where they teach
you certain skills of life.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
One of the things I wanted to ask you, you're
so dedicated to this. You've always been dedicated this. Members
of your family before you members.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Of not my father. My father is of the Korean
War era. But you know, in small town American those days,
what happened. He had scarlet fever as a child, and
the local doctor was still the doctor. When it came
to the recruiting board, it would not let him join.
But all my uncles served in the US Navy. But
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I think it's one of the important things about taking people,
frankly to places like the Army Heritage and Education Center
in Carlisle, in that you know, several years ago there
were people protesting in the country and they were calling,
you know, against the one percent. And what I tell
veterans is, you know, the one percent is not the
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ultra wealthy in the country. The one percent now are
people who've worn in the nation's uniform.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We're not.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know, the World War II generation is fast disappearing.
In the war generation is fast disappearing, and we lose
Vietnam veterans every day. Very few Americans are serving in
some fashion. And how then will the public people who
don't have someone in their family serving, how will they learn?
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And one of the ways they can learn is by
going to someplace like the Army Heritage and Education Center
in Carlisle. What what they do do there is absolutely fantastic,
you know, both on the research end, on the museum
and on the trail end. And it's a great it's
a great opportunity for people who don't have military service themselves,
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but people who love the military. I mean, Julie can
certainly tell you her story, but she she did not serve,
yet her family serves. She grew up in that atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
She's an Army brad.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Very proudly. I am the daughter, granddaughter, daughter in law,
and sister of Army soldiers.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh sister too. Isn't that wonderful? Why do you think?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I wanted to first tell you guys, I'm going
to ask you these questions, but if any time you
just jump in if I'm wrong, please correct me. It's
in Carlisle, the Heritage Center. The Army is two hundred
and fifty years old this June. But isn't the United
States younger than them?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah? So it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So we actually kicked off our own beginning celebrations for
the two fiftieth of the nation last October by recognizing
the first troop, Philadelphia City Cavalry, which was formed in
seventeen seventy five. The army was when the Continent of
Congress was meeting, they decided that they needed to put
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together an army. So it was actually before the Declaration
of Independence that Washington was made head of an army.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And matter of.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Fact, the largest group of people that were asked for
by Congress. We're from Pennsylvania, but Carlisles places significant part
in that as well. But yes, the army is older
than the nation.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Is that something? Boy? The things you find out, that's why.
And I want to talk.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
About your two websites because wow, I was blown away
by now the foundation and center the Education Center. There
are two different things. And tell us about how the foundation,
what you guys do, and how it supports the actual law.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, of course, Center, you're quite right. Let me break
it down a little bit more for okay, Bob and
I both support the Army Heritage Center Foundation. We consider
ourselves to be the sister group, the nonprofit arm of
this incredible facility, the Army Heritage and Education Center, just
down the road a few miles in historic Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
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We sometimes in shorthand in the military world, we'll call
it USA hec or a heck. So if you hear
Bob or I slip into calling it YUSA heek or
a heck, please correct us. Most people don't understand what
that means. But it's the initials of the US Army
Heritage and Education Center. The Army Heritage and Education Center.
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It is wow. It is a fifty four acre campus
that includes in archives an incredible library. The archives, by
the way, have miles and miles five miles worth of
archival materials. So if you're a runner and you run
five k's, imagine going two more miles at the end
of your five k and you'll still be surrounded by
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archival materials. A lot of that isn't public facing, so
regular Pennsylvania's, regular Americans, visitors who come to visit, they
don't see it. What they see. The public facing aspects
of the center are the galleries and the exhibits, the museum,
and the incredible mile long Army Heritage Trail that really
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immerses visitors in what it's like to be a soldier.
Throughout the last quarter millennium two and a half centuries
of army history.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
We'll give us an idea you have from more I
in my research.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You have hundreds of thousands of books and documents, and
a lot of these are the originals.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Right, personal papers in the olden days up until recently,
we wrote letters, we kept journals, and we kept notes.
All of that printed content, plus photographs, monographs and of
course yeah you're right, books, all of that archival material artifacts.
They are all stored for safekeeping to preserve the Army
soldier story. At the organization we support the Army Heritage
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and Education Center.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Somebody told me to ask you about the lost statue
of a Lincoln. Do you know about that that was recovered?
I think there were two of them, and somebody found.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We do have a bronze Lincoln statue. And often happens
if you think of you know, we're coming up to
the two fiftieth, but in eighteen seventy six you had
the centennial, many many celebrations were done and then items
sort of get lost.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Even at Carlisle Barracks. Here the main.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Teaching building is Root Hall, named after a lie who Root,
who was Secretary of War. The old Root Hall is
being knocked down because they've built a brand new one
still with the name Root Hall. But if you go
twenty years from now, people will have no recollection of
the old hall. That's just what happens with certain items.
But what we're so happy to do what we do
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in the foundation, really we're the icing on the cake.
The cake is the Army Heritage and Education Center, the
staff there, the people that run that. When you're talking
about the archival, as Julie speaking of it, not only
does that serve the students at the War College, but
it serves the researchers. Anytime you've seen one of these
famous movies in the last twenty years and military, a
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lot of that research.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Is done right there.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The personal papers, things that people are, what they actually
said and did, so we have a whole unique set
of that kind of information. Is public can use that.
You have to go through a process. It's not like
just walking into a library. Public can use that, you know,
or they can hire services to I'd like to look
up my father's unit. I'd like to see if anything
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is there. And some of this is important because in
a time before the technologies we have today, we had documents,
we had paper and there was a fire in nineteen
sixty eight out in.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Saint Louis that destroyed.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
World War one, World War two people's records, people who
had been serving in Vietnam in the early stages.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, many of those people who.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Lost those records have pieces from a unit roster that
are in our archives. You can find you can patch
together what your father or grandfather served with, you know,
by looking at those kinds of records that they have
at the Center Sylvia.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Just this weekend, I spent a couple of hours digging
into the digitized archives, which anybody can access online, looking
up one of our board members fathers, who served first
in World War Two and then using the GI Bill,
became a school teacher in Pennsylvania and then was called
up again during the Korean War. And I found this
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man's survey that he had filled out after the Korean War,
pages and pages and his beautiful, elegant handwriting answering questions
about what it was like for him to serve in Korea.
And I found out that this man he was on
a picnic with his family in a park when they
overheard on the radio the start of the Korean War,
and he just knew, he knew he was going to
get called up and go back. One of the questions
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was how did you overcome fear? And this man, this soldier,
wrote about how cold it was and how as an
artillery man his carbines would get stuck in the freezing cold,
and how he couldn't fire weapons as well when he
was wearing mittens, so it was a choice between staying
warm and firing his weapon well. And he said that
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in his again beautiful handwriting, answering this survey, he said,
what is fear when you have determination and faith in
your mission? And I thought that that was the most incredible,
most beautiful quote.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I was sharing something about ten years ago Julie a
story a friend of mine who grew up I grew
up in the coal regions, and I worked with her
news down here. She called me one day she said, so,
would you be interested in interviewing this man? He was
ninety three years so wrote a book and he was
the navigator on the Enola Gay to drop the bomb
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on Hiroshima. Oh, my God, of all the people that
I have interviewed this I'll never forget this man for
a lot of reasons.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Ninety three sharp as attack. I said to.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Him, you knew what your mission was the night before?
What do you what were you guys doing? What the
hell do you think we're doing. We're drinking beer and
playing cards. And I thought, oh my god, I love you.
But what I didn't just found out, and I learned
from your website, is he was in an airplane. I
assume there was an air force. There was an air force,
there was an army.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
What would you do, MPs Air Corps?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it. But these are
the kind of things that you don't know and all that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This is very exciting.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know, where the hand receipt for the bomb is?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Is it there?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Carla? The hand receipt?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You know, in the military, whenever you take something, take
a you know, possession of something, somebody has to sign
for it. Well, we have it, you know, you know
the signed receipt is there at the Army Heritage Education Center.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is a document.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Uh you know, it's been digitized, et cetera, but it's
it's there. It's that's the kind of depth and and
when you you know, so that whole research thing that's
so critical to people research in the Army in general,
the students at the War College, what what the what
the staff at the Army Heritage and Education Center does
with that is just outstanding. But then they also marry
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it to the physical. So when you go to the
museum part there is a recreated bunker for Americans in
the Korean War. So you hear the chatter, you hear whatever,
and all of a sudden you see the Chinese soldiers
coming out, uh, and you hear the hear the the
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talk between the guys, et cetera, and it's it's you know,
it's a really you know, when when you talk about
the Korean War, often called the Forgotten War, really was
one of the highest casualty wars that the United States
ever fought for us. And frankly, it was one of
those situations where we went in we thought we would
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be fighting you know, North Korean irregulars, and we were
fighting the Chinese army. And so it was those men
that that sacrifice in the Korean War really bore a
very heavyweight.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, we say we learned from history, but do
we learn from history?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I think we do.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I think we do, you know, And it's funny, and
it's why it's so important for people to visit places
like the arm Heritage and Education Center, because a perfect
example would be when people ridiculed Don Rumsfeld years ago
when he said you fight with the army. You have
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as if that was some sort of but that's exactly true.
You know, so in the in in you know in
that war that it was because something shifted. In other words,
our jeeps, our vehicles for Iraq and Afghanistan, they were
not originally designed for the threat being improvised bombs that
blew up under the carriage. They were lighter vehicles. You
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look at the Korean War. You know, we were ill
prepared for the Korean winter. We were ill prepared for
the for the the Chinese army to be involved. Look
at World War Two. The famous one of the most
famous pictures of World War Two is Pennsylvania's own twenty
eighth Infantry Division marking marching under the Larque de trientf
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because basically, we're celebrating we've liberated Paris. Well just as
they're doing that is when Hitler began the bulg these
guys were diverted. The airborne guys that got sent in
had summer uniforms. They were not ready for the winter
in the battalling.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Absolutely so. So we do.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Learn, but sometimes it's a slow process, and when you
don't look at history, you end up repeating.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
A lot of errors.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
As a veteran, I would like to ask you this.
I remember ten fifteen years ago. I think it was
Afghanistan my dad. People heard me talk about this because
I loved doing programs about our veterans. My dad, during
the Second World War was in a the second Marine
Division of the Navy in the South Pacific in a
place called Taro. And when it was doing this interview
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with this gentleman who dropped, you know, was the navigintroom,
Nola Gay. He asked me that and I told himbout
my dad. He said, you know where it was? I said, Tarawa.
Because he kept very serious because he was joking all
the time. He said, oh my god, honey, that was
a blood path.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And my father, although he was a successful businessman, things
would set him off in the middle of night. My
whole life's in some little girl post traumatic stress disorder.
And people don't know that. But I remember when I
was talking to him, when he was still living. I
think it was about Afghanist and I said, Daddy, would
you go back? You said absolutely? So many militaries say absolutely.
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And when you see such hell, there must be something
truly special about people, especially people that aren't drafted but
sign up like fet my dad did when he was
a kid. A lot of these people were kids, and
they will. They all say absolutely, no matter what I faced,
I'm going back. That's my country. My God, that's incredible.
Did you find that a lot too?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I think that, especially in today is all volunteer army,
that patriotism is a major motivator for a great number
of people in the force that they want to preserve
the American way. And I still think that that is
a major motivator for and it certainly certainly is something
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that absolutely permeates the people that join our foundation to
help support the mission of Aheck, the retired officers and
all this is very important to them, preserving the history.
Julie's put together a tremendous group of them just helping
us with the two fifty make sure we're doing it right.
And they do it because of their love of country
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and their pride and their service.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you know, I wanted to ask you all these
things you have all these artifacts, papers and everything else
they're donated. That's correct, Okay, So anyone listening out there,
they have to get a hold of you. And you see,
I mean, you don't take everything, right, Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Common misconception. The foundation itself does not accept donations of
artifacts and papers. What people want to do is reach
out to the Army Heritage and Education Center itself and
talk to someone on the archival.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Team on the official staff.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
So, okay, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
The second question is what do you have? I mean,
you know about all this stuff. What do you have
that you don't or what don't you have that you
would like to have?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well, I think again, there are certain things that that
the official staff has expressed to us in the past
that they that they want more of of, you know,
and and I'll put it this way, broadly speaking, they're
always looking for the more rare things. So the experience
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of the Chinese soldiers who fought.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
In the U. S.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Army and World War Two, the experience of right now, uh,
the experience of.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Of nurses uh uh.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, there's been a lot of re resurgence of
interest in that when you when uh you know, you
had before women were integrated into the regular Army, they
still served, they served in the Women's Army Corps. Uh
And yet most people, you know, when they came home,
their story was very different than other people because people
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assumed that they had not served or that they didn't serve. Forward,
so they look for so for that kind of thing
is really the kind of thing that they generally are
interested in. But as Julie said, ultimately they have to
look at their staffing, their needs, what part of the
story they're trying to tell. And that's not something we
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at the foundation do. That's meat and potato stuff that
the full time staff at the Army Heritage and Education
Center does.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Now the Foundation, it's the profit generating extension of the
Heritage Center. Right, donations other than actual items, artifaction and
stuff you always this must be terribly We.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Do take donations for our October. We always have two
events a year, the Army's Birthday and a celebration in October,
and we have a silent auction and we have had
donations of very interesting stuff. Retired Lieutenant General Chuck Pete
donated a charter to us for the last auction you
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know from the King in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Eighty five or so.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So we do have stuff like that when we certainly
take monetary donations at all various levels. We love people
at a minimum to be a member of the Our
entry level membership is only thirty five dollars. It gets
you all of our publications and alerts you of the events.
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But we also have a Julie can talk a little
because you have a set of little flags on there.
Julie can talk a really simple way we have right
now that you can honor someone for next to nothing.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Your neighbor, your family members, your spouse, your children. We
have ways to commemorate the service of those you care
about through as we approach Memorial Day, purchasing a flag
in their honor, which we will plant on the campus
of the Army Heritage and Education Center in historic Carlisle.
But we also do commemorative bricks, pavers and benches as well,
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and for local people. When those bricks are ready to
be placed in the Soldier's Walk at the Army Heritage
and Education Center, our team will work with them if
they'd like to come and help us place the brick
in person. Many families will want to do a short ceremony,
talk about the person that they're honoring. Sometimes they'll bring
in a chaplain and it's an incredibly warm and empathetic
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way to connect with those soldier stories of the past
and make sure that we preserve their legacy into the future.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know, I often think about I love American history.
It was one of my favorite subjects. But most kids
it's boring. Well, of course it is, because all you
have to memorize people, places and dates, and then you
take the kiss and it's out of your head. Schools
need to teach children, They need to bring kids to
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this because that will it'll pump these kids up because.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's not boring. It can't be boring to anybody. It's
so exciting you think.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It immerses you in history, from the trenches of World
War One to barracks during World War Two. We even
have a readout from the French and Indian War. Who
will live history When you visit the Army Heritage and
Education Center, I love it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
We better get gone because I'll tell you what. We're
quickly running out of time and I want to get
to that birthday party.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Tell us what's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well, as we've talked about the last couple of minutes.
The United States Army is celebrating its two hundred and
fiftieth birthday on June fourteenth, and like a lot of
military focused organizations, will be throwing a birthday party at
the Army Heritage and Education Center on the evening of
the fourteenth. We decided for this dinner, working with a
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group of retired officers, that instead of doing a big
picture focus, we wanted to use the occasion to tell
the stories of three local soldiers who have served over
the course of the last two hundred and fifty years.
Will be profiling the United States Army's first colonel who
later became a general, William Thompson during the Revolutionary War.
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We'll be profiling John Minnick during World War Two. And
we'll be profiling a younger soldier, Sergeant Patrick Hawkins, who
lost his life was killed in action during his fourth
tour of duty in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
You have a pretty special speaker that night, we do.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We have Lieutenant General James Dubick who will be coming
to Carlisle to tie all of the pieces together. He
is the author on a book on just War and
he will be talking, as I said, about all of
those pieces and why soldier stories matter more now than ever.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
What's your favorite part of the whole place.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I like the trail and particularly the tiger painted tank
that's visible from the highway, but the fashion anything about
the trail is literally you can start at that French
and Indian War readout. You can go through the Civil
War cabins, you can go to the World War Two anchors,
you can go to the World War One trenches, you
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can go to the Vietnam Landing Zone and Vietnam artillery.
But you can get a visual picture of sort of
the history right there in that one mile walk.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, and you also have a lot of things going
additionally to that, don't You have like a speaker's Savor series,
and like all kinds of events, and.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Most of our events are free and open to the public.
You can go to you can go to both our
the Foundation's website and also the Army Heritage and Education centers.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
So you want to become a member because you hear
about those events right exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And try and going to you know, everybody wants to
go to these big theme parts. Try going there and
getting in for thirty five bucks. But whole family, how
can you not go to this place and not be
blown away by it. I can hardly wait to get there.
I'm telling everybody about it. Okay, So, now, as we mentioned,
is this on the campus of the college, so the.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
War College is is gated, so it is adjacent. It
adjoins the War College, but you do not have to
go through a security post to get there. It's fifty
four acres of land directly adjacent to the Army War
College in Carlisle Barracks.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
If you're going down eighty one, what exec you get
off of you'll.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
See that if you go if you go down eighty
eighty one, you'll see you'll see it on your right
and you just take that next exit on Army Heritage Drive.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I like that you mentioned it's free planet parking.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing. And you guys are open
like seven days a week with a couple of federal holidays.
Is that how it is that you're not open on
a couple of federal.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And the trail is open during the daylight all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Tell us, now you start talking about the trail, you
have reenactors that did they do stuff there?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Absolutely? And that's why as you said Sylvia. The best way,
frankly is to join and become a member so that
you get the email alerts and you get the newsletters
and all. But we have activities all year round that
we sport and publicize what the Army Heritage Center is doing.
They're the ones that actually put these things on, and
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we try to get the message out and help them
where we can.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, the main thing I want people to hear about
this is the two websites. Give us a good idea
where they are and how you get tickets for this
big birthday.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
For visit Armyhritage dot org. Incredibly easy website. It will
connect you to the Army Heritage Center Foundation and you
will be able to purchase tickets to our dinner, access
information on all of our free events that are open
to the public, and of course connect with the incredible
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US Army Heritage and Education Center, the organization that we support.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't want this to end. I could talk to
you guys all day long. It's the US Army Herritage
and Education Center in Calisle. Again, It's free, open seven
days a week, with just a couple of federal holidays
as exceptions. I encourage you get out. Oh you know
what did I read the at this birthday party? We
just talked a little bit about it. They're gonna have
a big sword like.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
A ceremonial saber as part of the cake cutting tradition.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's an old Army tradition.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
The tradition is that the youngest serving soldier and the
oldest serving soldier cut the cake together using a ceremonial saber.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
And what I was going to say, if you forget
the website, get a hold of me Sylvia Moss at
a US at iHeartMedia dot com or any of your
questions and I'll pasha on to whoever can provide those answers. Again,
thank you so much, guys, Robert Desuza, board chair and
Julie Germany, board president of the US Army Harry Center
Foundation in Carlisle.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It's been wonderful. Please say you're gonna come back, Sure, okay, anytime.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
As a run reminder, you can catch Insight every weekend
on Egypt or iHeart stations or anytime on your favorite
podcast app.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm Sylvia Moss. This has been insight. Thanks so much
for listening. See you next week.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
M
Hi, I'm Sylvia Moss, and this is Insight, a presentation
of iHeartMedia where we really do care about our local
communities and all our listeners who live here. As Americans,
we say that we love our veterans, and after all,
we do have special days, parades, and even statues to
honor them, But how many of us have taken the
time to really learn about each of the men and
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women that served them in our military, Things like why
they made such a remarkable and unselfish commitment to so
many people They didn't even know or maybe never would
know what their daily lives were like while they were serving.
Their thoughts down to the bottom of it. It's pretty
much don't even care about their personal stories anyway. The
two hundred and fiftieth birthday of the US Army is
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June fourteenth, and it's a perfect time not only to
celebrate these truly brave men and women, it's also an
opportunity to begin our journey of finding out exactly who
these soldiers were as individuals and understanding why my guests
likes to say military history is American history. Guests today
have a long ago made a commitment to the military
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with us Robert Desusa, the board chair, and Julie Germany,
board president of the US Army Heritage Center Foundation in Carlisle.
They're here to introduce you to the US Army Heritage
and Education Center, which is an incredible place in Carlisle
that provides all kinds of ways for you to learn
about the history of the US Army, one soldier at
a time. In addition, we're going to find out why
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the US Army Heritage Center was recently named one of
the top ten free museums in the US by Newsweek magazine. Last,
and certainly not least, Bob and Julie want to invite
you to the US Army Heritage Center Foundation's two hundred
and fiftieth birthday party, which is planned for June fourth. Guys,
as I was telling Bob, I was telling Julia a
little earlier, I can hardly wait to talk about this.
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This is long, long overdue. And when I was gathering
my notes yesterday, I thought about my nephew's little boy,
who since he was six years old, he's loved this stuff.
So right away I text him, you got to check
this website and he said, oh, and Sylvia, thank you
so much for me there this, I thought, oh, this
is great because every American needs to be there, and
it's for every American.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I want to ask you, first of all, and I'm
sure Julie, I won't mine. First of all, you're a veteran.
Thank you so much for your service, honest to God.
Tell us a little bit about your service.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, very much appreciate that I went in a little
abnormal route. Let's say I was thirty three years old
when I went, and I was direct commissioned in the
Judge Advocate General's Corps, and I spent twenty eight years
in uniform as a guardsman and a reservist. I'm an
Iraq War veteran, and i retired from the military when
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I hit age sixty. I was the state Judge Advocate
at that point, in charge of all of the army
and air judge advocates in the Pennsylvania Guards. It was
a great pleasure to serve the country in that fashion,
to serve the commonwealth, and had a great time doing it.
The army is one of those places where they teach
you certain skills of life.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
One of the things I wanted to ask you, you're
so dedicated to this. You've always been dedicated this. Members
of your family before you members.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Of not my father. My father is of the Korean
War era. But you know, in small town American those days,
what happened. He had scarlet fever as a child, and
the local doctor was still the doctor. When it came
to the recruiting board, it would not let him join.
But all my uncles served in the US Navy. But
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I think it's one of the important things about taking people,
frankly to places like the Army Heritage and Education Center
in Carlisle, in that you know, several years ago there
were people protesting in the country and they were calling,
you know, against the one percent. And what I tell
veterans is, you know, the one percent is not the
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ultra wealthy in the country. The one percent now are
people who've worn in the nation's uniform.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We're not.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know, the World War II generation is fast disappearing.
In the war generation is fast disappearing, and we lose
Vietnam veterans every day. Very few Americans are serving in
some fashion. And how then will the public people who
don't have someone in their family serving, how will they learn?
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And one of the ways they can learn is by
going to someplace like the Army Heritage and Education Center
in Carlisle. What what they do do there is absolutely fantastic,
you know, both on the research end, on the museum
and on the trail end. And it's a great it's
a great opportunity for people who don't have military service themselves,
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but people who love the military. I mean, Julie can
certainly tell you her story, but she she did not serve,
yet her family serves. She grew up in that atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
She's an Army brad.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Very proudly. I am the daughter, granddaughter, daughter in law,
and sister of Army soldiers.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh sister too. Isn't that wonderful? Why do you think?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well, I wanted to first tell you guys, I'm going
to ask you these questions, but if any time you
just jump in if I'm wrong, please correct me. It's
in Carlisle, the Heritage Center. The Army is two hundred
and fifty years old this June. But isn't the United
States younger than them?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah? So it's it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So we actually kicked off our own beginning celebrations for
the two fiftieth of the nation last October by recognizing
the first troop, Philadelphia City Cavalry, which was formed in
seventeen seventy five. The army was when the Continent of
Congress was meeting, they decided that they needed to put
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together an army. So it was actually before the Declaration
of Independence that Washington was made head of an army.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And matter of.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Fact, the largest group of people that were asked for
by Congress. We're from Pennsylvania, but Carlisles places significant part
in that as well. But yes, the army is older
than the nation.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Is that something? Boy? The things you find out, that's why.
And I want to talk.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
About your two websites because wow, I was blown away
by now the foundation and center the Education Center. There
are two different things. And tell us about how the foundation,
what you guys do, and how it supports the actual law.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, of course, Center, you're quite right. Let me break
it down a little bit more for okay, Bob and
I both support the Army Heritage Center Foundation. We consider
ourselves to be the sister group, the nonprofit arm of
this incredible facility, the Army Heritage and Education Center, just
down the road a few miles in historic Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
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We sometimes in shorthand in the military world, we'll call
it USA hec or a heck. So if you hear
Bob or I slip into calling it YUSA heek or
a heck, please correct us. Most people don't understand what
that means. But it's the initials of the US Army
Heritage and Education Center. The Army Heritage and Education Center.
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It is wow. It is a fifty four acre campus
that includes in archives an incredible library. The archives, by
the way, have miles and miles five miles worth of
archival materials. So if you're a runner and you run
five k's, imagine going two more miles at the end
of your five k and you'll still be surrounded by
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archival materials. A lot of that isn't public facing, so
regular Pennsylvania's, regular Americans, visitors who come to visit, they
don't see it. What they see. The public facing aspects
of the center are the galleries and the exhibits, the museum,
and the incredible mile long Army Heritage Trail that really
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immerses visitors in what it's like to be a soldier.
Throughout the last quarter millennium two and a half centuries
of army history.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
We'll give us an idea you have from more I
in my research.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You have hundreds of thousands of books and documents, and
a lot of these are the originals.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Right, personal papers in the olden days up until recently,
we wrote letters, we kept journals, and we kept notes.
All of that printed content, plus photographs, monographs and of
course yeah you're right, books, all of that archival material artifacts.
They are all stored for safekeeping to preserve the Army
soldier story. At the organization we support the Army Heritage
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and Education Center.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Somebody told me to ask you about the lost statue
of a Lincoln. Do you know about that that was recovered?
I think there were two of them, and somebody found.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
We do have a bronze Lincoln statue. And often happens
if you think of you know, we're coming up to
the two fiftieth, but in eighteen seventy six you had
the centennial, many many celebrations were done and then items
sort of get lost.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Even at Carlisle Barracks. Here the main.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Teaching building is Root Hall, named after a lie who Root,
who was Secretary of War. The old Root Hall is
being knocked down because they've built a brand new one
still with the name Root Hall. But if you go
twenty years from now, people will have no recollection of
the old hall. That's just what happens with certain items.
But what we're so happy to do what we do
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in the foundation, really we're the icing on the cake.
The cake is the Army Heritage and Education Center, the
staff there, the people that run that. When you're talking
about the archival, as Julie speaking of it, not only
does that serve the students at the War College, but
it serves the researchers. Anytime you've seen one of these
famous movies in the last twenty years and military, a
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lot of that research.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Is done right there.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The personal papers, things that people are, what they actually
said and did, so we have a whole unique set
of that kind of information. Is public can use that.
You have to go through a process. It's not like
just walking into a library. Public can use that, you know,
or they can hire services to I'd like to look
up my father's unit. I'd like to see if anything
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is there. And some of this is important because in
a time before the technologies we have today, we had documents,
we had paper and there was a fire in nineteen
sixty eight out in.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Saint Louis that destroyed.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
World War one, World War two people's records, people who
had been serving in Vietnam in the early stages.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, many of those people who.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Lost those records have pieces from a unit roster that
are in our archives. You can find you can patch
together what your father or grandfather served with, you know,
by looking at those kinds of records that they have
at the Center Sylvia.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Just this weekend, I spent a couple of hours digging
into the digitized archives, which anybody can access online, looking
up one of our board members fathers, who served first
in World War Two and then using the GI Bill,
became a school teacher in Pennsylvania and then was called
up again during the Korean War. And I found this
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man's survey that he had filled out after the Korean War,
pages and pages and his beautiful, elegant handwriting answering questions
about what it was like for him to serve in Korea.
And I found out that this man he was on
a picnic with his family in a park when they
overheard on the radio the start of the Korean War,
and he just knew, he knew he was going to
get called up and go back. One of the questions
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was how did you overcome fear? And this man, this soldier,
wrote about how cold it was and how as an
artillery man his carbines would get stuck in the freezing cold,
and how he couldn't fire weapons as well when he
was wearing mittens, so it was a choice between staying
warm and firing his weapon well. And he said that
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in his again beautiful handwriting, answering this survey, he said,
what is fear when you have determination and faith in
your mission? And I thought that that was the most incredible,
most beautiful quote.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I was sharing something about ten years ago Julie a
story a friend of mine who grew up I grew
up in the coal regions, and I worked with her
news down here. She called me one day she said, so,
would you be interested in interviewing this man? He was
ninety three years so wrote a book and he was
the navigator on the Enola Gay to drop the bomb
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on Hiroshima. Oh, my God, of all the people that
I have interviewed this I'll never forget this man for
a lot of reasons.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Ninety three sharp as attack. I said to.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Him, you knew what your mission was the night before?
What do you what were you guys doing? What the
hell do you think we're doing. We're drinking beer and
playing cards. And I thought, oh my god, I love you.
But what I didn't just found out, and I learned
from your website, is he was in an airplane. I
assume there was an air force. There was an air force,
there was an army.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
What would you do, MPs Air Corps?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it. But these are
the kind of things that you don't know and all that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This is very exciting.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
You know, where the hand receipt for the bomb is?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Is it there?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Carla? The hand receipt?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You know, in the military, whenever you take something, take
a you know, possession of something, somebody has to sign
for it. Well, we have it, you know, you know
the signed receipt is there at the Army Heritage Education Center.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is a document.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Uh you know, it's been digitized, et cetera, but it's
it's there. It's that's the kind of depth and and
when you you know, so that whole research thing that's
so critical to people research in the Army in general,
the students at the War College, what what the what
the staff at the Army Heritage and Education Center does
with that is just outstanding. But then they also marry
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it to the physical. So when you go to the
museum part there is a recreated bunker for Americans in
the Korean War. So you hear the chatter, you hear whatever,
and all of a sudden you see the Chinese soldiers
coming out, uh, and you hear the hear the the
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talk between the guys, et cetera, and it's it's you know,
it's a really you know, when when you talk about
the Korean War, often called the Forgotten War, really was
one of the highest casualty wars that the United States
ever fought for us. And frankly, it was one of
those situations where we went in we thought we would
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be fighting you know, North Korean irregulars, and we were
fighting the Chinese army. And so it was those men
that that sacrifice in the Korean War really bore a
very heavyweight.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, we say we learned from history, but do
we learn from history?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I think we do.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I think we do, you know, And it's funny, and
it's why it's so important for people to visit places
like the arm Heritage and Education Center, because a perfect
example would be when people ridiculed Don Rumsfeld years ago
when he said you fight with the army. You have
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as if that was some sort of but that's exactly true.
You know, so in the in in you know in
that war that it was because something shifted. In other words,
our jeeps, our vehicles for Iraq and Afghanistan, they were
not originally designed for the threat being improvised bombs that
blew up under the carriage. They were lighter vehicles. You
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look at the Korean War. You know, we were ill
prepared for the Korean winter. We were ill prepared for
the for the the Chinese army to be involved. Look
at World War Two. The famous one of the most
famous pictures of World War Two is Pennsylvania's own twenty
eighth Infantry Division marking marching under the Larque de trientf
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because basically, we're celebrating we've liberated Paris. Well just as
they're doing that is when Hitler began the bulg these
guys were diverted. The airborne guys that got sent in
had summer uniforms. They were not ready for the winter
in the battalling.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Absolutely so. So we do.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Learn, but sometimes it's a slow process, and when you
don't look at history, you end up repeating.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
A lot of errors.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
As a veteran, I would like to ask you this.
I remember ten fifteen years ago. I think it was
Afghanistan my dad. People heard me talk about this because
I loved doing programs about our veterans. My dad, during
the Second World War was in a the second Marine
Division of the Navy in the South Pacific in a
place called Taro. And when it was doing this interview
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with this gentleman who dropped, you know, was the navigintroom,
Nola Gay. He asked me that and I told himbout
my dad. He said, you know where it was? I said, Tarawa.
Because he kept very serious because he was joking all
the time. He said, oh my god, honey, that was
a blood path.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
And my father, although he was a successful businessman, things
would set him off in the middle of night. My
whole life's in some little girl post traumatic stress disorder.
And people don't know that. But I remember when I
was talking to him, when he was still living. I
think it was about Afghanist and I said, Daddy, would
you go back? You said absolutely? So many militaries say absolutely.
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And when you see such hell, there must be something
truly special about people, especially people that aren't drafted but
sign up like fet my dad did when he was
a kid. A lot of these people were kids, and
they will. They all say absolutely, no matter what I faced,
I'm going back. That's my country. My God, that's incredible.
Did you find that a lot too?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I think that, especially in today is all volunteer army,
that patriotism is a major motivator for a great number
of people in the force that they want to preserve
the American way. And I still think that that is
a major motivator for and it certainly certainly is something
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that absolutely permeates the people that join our foundation to
help support the mission of Aheck, the retired officers and
all this is very important to them, preserving the history.
Julie's put together a tremendous group of them just helping
us with the two fifty make sure we're doing it right.
And they do it because of their love of country
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and their pride and their service.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, you know, I wanted to ask you all these
things you have all these artifacts, papers and everything else
they're donated. That's correct, Okay, So anyone listening out there,
they have to get a hold of you. And you see,
I mean, you don't take everything, right, Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Common misconception. The foundation itself does not accept donations of
artifacts and papers. What people want to do is reach
out to the Army Heritage and Education Center itself and
talk to someone on the archival.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Team on the official staff.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
So, okay, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
The second question is what do you have? I mean,
you know about all this stuff. What do you have
that you don't or what don't you have that you
would like to have?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well, I think again, there are certain things that that
the official staff has expressed to us in the past
that they that they want more of of, you know,
and and I'll put it this way, broadly speaking, they're
always looking for the more rare things. So the experience
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of the Chinese soldiers who fought.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
In the U. S.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Army and World War Two, the experience of right now, uh,
the experience of.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Of nurses uh uh.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, there's been a lot of re resurgence of
interest in that when you when uh you know, you
had before women were integrated into the regular Army, they
still served, they served in the Women's Army Corps. Uh
And yet most people, you know, when they came home,
their story was very different than other people because people
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assumed that they had not served or that they didn't serve. Forward,
so they look for so for that kind of thing
is really the kind of thing that they generally are
interested in. But as Julie said, ultimately they have to
look at their staffing, their needs, what part of the
story they're trying to tell. And that's not something we
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at the foundation do. That's meat and potato stuff that
the full time staff at the Army Heritage and Education
Center does.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Now the Foundation, it's the profit generating extension of the
Heritage Center. Right, donations other than actual items, artifaction and
stuff you always this must be terribly We.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Do take donations for our October. We always have two
events a year, the Army's Birthday and a celebration in October,
and we have a silent auction and we have had
donations of very interesting stuff. Retired Lieutenant General Chuck Pete
donated a charter to us for the last auction you
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know from the King in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Eighty five or so.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
So we do have stuff like that when we certainly
take monetary donations at all various levels. We love people
at a minimum to be a member of the Our
entry level membership is only thirty five dollars. It gets
you all of our publications and alerts you of the events.
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But we also have a Julie can talk a little
because you have a set of little flags on there.
Julie can talk a really simple way we have right
now that you can honor someone for next to nothing.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Your neighbor, your family members, your spouse, your children. We
have ways to commemorate the service of those you care
about through as we approach Memorial Day, purchasing a flag
in their honor, which we will plant on the campus
of the Army Heritage and Education Center in historic Carlisle.
But we also do commemorative bricks, pavers and benches as well,
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and for local people. When those bricks are ready to
be placed in the Soldier's Walk at the Army Heritage
and Education Center, our team will work with them if
they'd like to come and help us place the brick
in person. Many families will want to do a short ceremony,
talk about the person that they're honoring. Sometimes they'll bring
in a chaplain and it's an incredibly warm and empathetic
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way to connect with those soldier stories of the past
and make sure that we preserve their legacy into the future.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You know, I often think about I love American history.
It was one of my favorite subjects. But most kids
it's boring. Well, of course it is, because all you
have to memorize people, places and dates, and then you
take the kiss and it's out of your head. Schools
need to teach children, They need to bring kids to
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this because that will it'll pump these kids up because.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's not boring. It can't be boring to anybody. It's
so exciting you think.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It immerses you in history, from the trenches of World
War One to barracks during World War Two. We even
have a readout from the French and Indian War. Who
will live history When you visit the Army Heritage and
Education Center, I love it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
We better get gone because I'll tell you what. We're
quickly running out of time and I want to get
to that birthday party.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Tell us what's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well, as we've talked about the last couple of minutes.
The United States Army is celebrating its two hundred and
fiftieth birthday on June fourteenth, and like a lot of
military focused organizations, will be throwing a birthday party at
the Army Heritage and Education Center on the evening of
the fourteenth. We decided for this dinner, working with a
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group of retired officers, that instead of doing a big
picture focus, we wanted to use the occasion to tell
the stories of three local soldiers who have served over
the course of the last two hundred and fifty years.
Will be profiling the United States Army's first colonel who
later became a general, William Thompson during the Revolutionary War.
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We'll be profiling John Minnick during World War Two. And
we'll be profiling a younger soldier, Sergeant Patrick Hawkins, who
lost his life was killed in action during his fourth
tour of duty in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
You have a pretty special speaker that night, we do.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
We have Lieutenant General James Dubick who will be coming
to Carlisle to tie all of the pieces together. He
is the author on a book on just War and
he will be talking, as I said, about all of
those pieces and why soldier stories matter more now than ever.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
What's your favorite part of the whole place.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I like the trail and particularly the tiger painted tank
that's visible from the highway, but the fashion anything about
the trail is literally you can start at that French
and Indian War readout. You can go through the Civil
War cabins, you can go to the World War Two anchors,
you can go to the World War One trenches, you
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can go to the Vietnam Landing Zone and Vietnam artillery.
But you can get a visual picture of sort of
the history right there in that one mile walk.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, and you also have a lot of things going
additionally to that, don't You have like a speaker's Savor series,
and like all kinds of events, and.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Most of our events are free and open to the public.
You can go to you can go to both our
the Foundation's website and also the Army Heritage and Education centers.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
So you want to become a member because you hear
about those events right exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And try and going to you know, everybody wants to
go to these big theme parts. Try going there and
getting in for thirty five bucks. But whole family, how
can you not go to this place and not be
blown away by it. I can hardly wait to get there.
I'm telling everybody about it. Okay, So, now, as we mentioned,
is this on the campus of the college, so the.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
War College is is gated, so it is adjacent. It
adjoins the War College, but you do not have to
go through a security post to get there. It's fifty
four acres of land directly adjacent to the Army War
College in Carlisle Barracks.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
If you're going down eighty one, what exec you get
off of you'll.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
See that if you go if you go down eighty
eighty one, you'll see you'll see it on your right
and you just take that next exit on Army Heritage Drive.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
And I like that you mentioned it's free planet parking.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing. And you guys are open
like seven days a week with a couple of federal holidays.
Is that how it is that you're not open on
a couple of federal.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And the trail is open during the daylight all the time.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Tell us, now you start talking about the trail, you
have reenactors that did they do stuff there?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Absolutely? And that's why as you said Sylvia. The best way,
frankly is to join and become a member so that
you get the email alerts and you get the newsletters
and all. But we have activities all year round that
we sport and publicize what the Army Heritage Center is doing.
They're the ones that actually put these things on, and
(28:07):
we try to get the message out and help them
where we can.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, the main thing I want people to hear about
this is the two websites. Give us a good idea
where they are and how you get tickets for this
big birthday.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
For visit Armyhritage dot org. Incredibly easy website. It will
connect you to the Army Heritage Center Foundation and you
will be able to purchase tickets to our dinner, access
information on all of our free events that are open
to the public, and of course connect with the incredible
(28:42):
US Army Heritage and Education Center, the organization that we support.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't want this to end. I could talk to
you guys all day long. It's the US Army Herritage
and Education Center in Calisle. Again, It's free, open seven
days a week, with just a couple of federal holidays
as exceptions. I encourage you get out. Oh you know
what did I read the at this birthday party? We
just talked a little bit about it. They're gonna have
a big sword like.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
A ceremonial saber as part of the cake cutting tradition.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That's an old Army tradition.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
The tradition is that the youngest serving soldier and the
oldest serving soldier cut the cake together using a ceremonial saber.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
And what I was going to say, if you forget
the website, get a hold of me Sylvia Moss at
a US at iHeartMedia dot com or any of your
questions and I'll pasha on to whoever can provide those answers. Again,
thank you so much, guys, Robert Desuza, board chair and
Julie Germany, board president of the US Army Harry Center
Foundation in Carlisle.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It's been wonderful. Please say you're gonna come back, Sure, okay, anytime.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
As a run reminder, you can catch Insight every weekend
on Egypt or iHeart stations or anytime on your favorite
podcast app.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm Sylvia Moss. This has been insight. Thanks so much
for listening. See you next week.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
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