Reel Animals Fishing Show Saturday 10-11-25

Reel Animals Fishing Show Saturday 10-11-25

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to about bartow Ford Real Animals.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Radio show, your weekly voyage into Florida Fishing, presented by
Hubbard's Marina, hosted by Captain Mike Anderson and Captain Dylan Hubbard.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Good morning, Tampa Bay. Captain Dylan Hubbard here for the
bartow Ford Real Animals Radio Show talking fishing this morning
with myself, Captain Dylan Hubbard and Captain Ray Markham of
Backwater Promotions. We are here enjoying this blustery Saturday morning,
little less humid, but very windy, and luckily it's going

(00:35):
to be calming down through the day a little bit today,
definitely tomorrow looking a little better, and then it gets
pretty nice through the work week and we're looking forward
to that tide picking up as we moved through this
work week. We got a quarter moon Monday, but as
we approach this upcoming weekend, tide should be picking up
as we get closer to that new moon on the

(00:56):
backside of next weekend. Potentially a little bit more or
breezy this upcoming weekend, but this work week coming up
is looking good. Backs out of a coal front, things
should be stabilizing. Hopefully fishing should just get better and
better through the work week as we get further from
this front and we get closer to that new moon
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Speaker 3 (01:51):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Good to be here for sure, and looking forward to
picking your brain. For those who aren't familiar with Captain Raymard,
you're a illustrious outdoor writer. You've been in the industry
for a very long time and you've been all over
testing different products, lures, lines, and then you're also a
full time fishing guide who does mostly strictly artificial lures,

(02:18):
which is.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Mostly strictly right, Yeah, is it?

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Strictly, is it? Yes, Okay, strictly, I mean I have.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Fish live bait before. Yeah, most of it was pre
my twenties and that kind of thing when a little
kid and throwing a mullet net and all that kind
of stuff. But yeah, yeah, I used to carry a small,
little six foot bait net on the boat all the time.
People are always ragging on here, Well I thought you
only fish with artificials, I says, yeah, but sometimes you're

(02:47):
going to match the hatch, and the only way you
can do that is look and see what's in there
and throw a net, you know, and look at the
stuff and throw it down. What are you doing? You're
throwing that away? M Yeah, well we could fish with that. Nah,
we don't need that. I got you, So get away
from the crutch and you'll catch fish there.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It is so definitely interesting style of fishing compared to
most and excited to pick your brain a little bit
this morning about what your go tos are as we
move into this cooler weather pattern. We have a lot
of fish moving around right now as we transition from
those warmer weather patterns to those cooler weather patterns. I

(03:28):
would say at this point the transition is fully in progress.
It is on yeah, with this coal front, that our
first really significant coal front. I would say that we've
just had the last two days kind of still moving
through and I think it's got the fish definitely shook
up and on the move.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, I'll tell you to me. The precursor of this
transition is usually when Spanish mackerels stripes showing up because
they're catching the first whiff of coal snaps somewhere up
in the Panhandle and they're shooting south. They usually make
it a little bit before the kingfish do, and a
lot of big kingfish start showing up on the deep

(04:09):
water wrecks out out in the Gulf of America. I
caught a little bit of slack about that before it
was official or totally official.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's I just say, golf man because I know it's so.
It's you get yelled at either way, Yeah, right, no
matter what your personal opinion is. I'm just tired of
getting yelled at.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, well, you can find all this stuff I'm talking about.
I write for Florida Sportsman magazine and do the Action
Spotter section for the West Central area, which is where
we live here. Pretty much from about Hernando or just
south of Citrus on down to south end of Sarashona County.
And but anyway, I look at you know, like Spanish

(04:52):
mackerel as a precursor. But I'll tell you the next thing.
That's like a huge trigger or snook because as you know,
right where you are at there John's Pass, it loads
up in the summertime. It's a big spawning area and
these fish start moving in you know inside and they
stage up on the points and the new and the
full moons have some you know, good moving water, so

(05:16):
it's perfect for an ambush bettered or like a snook.
And so they are like going bonkers right now, see
because when they spawn they lose a lot of their
body fat and right now they are hell bent on
putting weight on and they don't care if something gets
in the way. They're eating it.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
And we're seeing it. Oh yeah, do you think the
snook There was an interesting conversation and Mahoney talks about
this a lot, the snook transition. Do you think it's
more water temperature or photo period like length of day.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think it's a combination of both. Yeah, I mean,
be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And a lot of people have said that like a
some some sort of combo of both.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, I look at feeding periods a little differently, I
think some people and Noah used to have a phenomenal
online chart that had multiple things on it that were
really so important to catching fish and wind fish are
actively feeding. And that gave me an example. Some of

(06:18):
the things that were on that chart. There was barmentric
pressure in direction, when velocity, water temperature, current speed, and
of course it's for whatever location that you're looking at.
It could be the skyway bridge or something. But they
had how many knots the water was moving, air temperature,

(06:40):
and I look at a lot of different things because
back in the seventies and eighties I used to race
sailboats and I judged where the wind is going to
be coming from. I mean, ten to twenty degree wind
shift is going to make a difference between winter and
losing a race a lot of times, and you learn
to be able to predict the changes ahead of time

(07:02):
so that you can be where you want to be
on the race course when those changes occur. And I
remember sailing all the way from a Pottle beach Beaha Beach,
all the way across the bay practically to Penela's Point
to catch the wind shift in the afternoon on a race,
and it had been easterly all day long up until

(07:24):
that point. And as soon as I started to feel
the tide slowing down, knowing the wind or the tide
was going to change. As soon as that change happened,
I started looking for the elephants and the horizon and people.
And there's a funny story about that, but I refer
to that as offshore. When the wind starts blowing harder,

(07:46):
it will start pushing water on the surface and it
will impact the waves and make the waves bigger. When
you start seeing those waves humping up looking like elephants
on the horizon, you know what's coming. Previous coming attraction
sort of, you know. And so I'm sitting there looking
at this stuff and thinking, Okay, it's coming, it's coming,

(08:07):
and I'll get up wind of everybody else. We're all
they're sitting there ghosting around, you know, and next to
no wind. And here I have a wind shift and
it changed coming and it's blowing fifteen to twenty and
I'm doing like twenty five miles an hour in my
hobie hobe sixteen just hauling bugy across and it watching
everybody just sit over there, and I'm like, sh I

(08:30):
did a Horizon job one time on Hoby Alter. And
after the race he came over to look at my boat.
He wanted to see, like, what did you do to
your boat? And I knew that's what he was thinking.
But he was still in there field in the hall
and well, do you wet sand your boat? I said no,
not at all. He said, well, the jel coat's kind
of thin. I says, it's not my fault. You built

(08:52):
a boat, and he says, well, who'd you buy it from?
And I told him. He says, well, i'll send you
a credit. You can go have your your home rejel coated.
And I said, okay, I just kept the money. But
he's feeling around the boat looking. He couldn't find anything.
He says, wait a minute. Your jib Halliard's not stock.
He says, well, I've broken seven of them, you know.

(09:14):
And I asked him what his warranty issues were with it. Well,
it's one of our most you know, costly warranty things.
And I said, well I fixed it. And then I
told him, well, I worked as the rigor at at
Gulf Star Yachts back then, building all the standing and
running rigging for the boats, the sailboats and everything, and

(09:35):
I changed the halliard and I never had a failure
after that. That following year all the new Hobies had
my break on the boat.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's funny how things work. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, But getting back to all these changes and everything.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's more than one variable.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
There's at least a dozen different variables. Yeah, and some
of it can be as much as the kind of
clouds are in the air. People are always looking dow here.
They're not looking up there one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And that's what's funny to me, because so often people
get hung up on one thing. One of the big
things for us offshore wise is I have people call
It's like, well, what do you think is going to
be the best trip? I'm booking a trip for next month,
and the moon is doing this, so I'm really confused
as to which trip should I book Tuesday or should I
book Friday. I was like, listen, it's next month. The

(10:23):
moon phase object to the weather, and moon phase is
only one variable of I mean, in shure, you have
a litany of variables. But then offshore you add even
more with different levels of that that tidal flow, and
you have thermal climb clients, and it just it really
complicates things, and trying to guess where the weather's going

(10:46):
to be more than a twenty four or forty eight
hours out, it's impossible.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, I get guys all the time, is like, hey,
I just moved here from Ohio and I got a boat.
I just kind of want to learn where I can
go fish. And I'm like, okay, he says, you don't
mind if I bring my GPS to you. He says, no,
bring it. First thing I asked him when he gets
on the boat is what kind of boat are you running? Like? Well,

(11:13):
tells me the boat. And I said, well, how much
water do you draw? And they tell me and usually
it's about at least twice as much as I draw.
I draw anywhere from six to eight inches with my
action craft. And so anyway, it's like, okay, I know
they draw like fourteen inches, so I'll take them somewhere
depending on the tide. And they don't understand that the

(11:37):
water goes like this up and down all day long,
and at the time they're fishing, it might be that much,
and they'll be sitting there watching the knees on a
hare and catch a bait next to the boat, you know, yeah, exactly,
And so it's all relative. And I had a client
that fished me for like two years and then he

(11:58):
decided he wanted to buy himself boat.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
He bought himself a scout, like a twenty twenty two
foot something like that. And he didn't tell me what
he was going to buy ahead of time. But he
has a nice boat.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, they are nice boats, he says.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
He says, well, today I just want to take my
boat because he lived in Tarracea. Yeah, and just I said,
I want to follow. You say you can't follow me?
He said, well why not? You can't float where I go?
And yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
The guy that sold me the boat, he said that
this will run and next to nothing.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Okay, So I well we'll find out.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
We will be back after this with more from Captain
Ray Markham and hopefully hearing from you as well. Remember
you can join the show one eight hundred and nine
six nine nine three five two give us a call
if you have a question. Fishing reporter. Just want to
say hello, Real animals radio will be right back. We're
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(13:44):
on the line.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I was wondering when everybody wakes up.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, they're waking up slowly. Let's see if I can
find the right mouse here. There we go. All right,
Donald from Loots, how you doing, buddy?

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Hey, good morning, captain, say Kevin Rays.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Good morning, buddy.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
All right, Hey, I miss our old back club that
was just a great club. But a couple of years ago,
you know, I decided to start a new club and
uh so it's uh my wife came up with half
the name. I came up with the rest. It's Dawsu,
It's Donald and whoever shows up, well me.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
In a minute. Do you still have the hot dogs
and hamburgers and stuff?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they were really good.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I've been doing it every month, different locations, just like
back next week, next Saturday, we're watching from Sutherland Bayou
boat ramp, right, but we're going to meet up at
pop Standils. We watched pop Standils but they put in
all those you know, barricades like they did a and

(15:00):
so you really can't get to the water unless you
have wheels or drag its. And I'm just getting too
old to drag a kayak. Pops sixty two, I know
I'm a little bit young that old.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Wow, I'm staying out of this one.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Twice. I'm twice as old as Billain I think.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Getting there, not quite yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, so you know, I've been doing this for two years,
and all different locations all over the place.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
That's a fish up there.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, so we're looking forward to that. And yeah, Pop
Standiles has the picnic pavilions. But yeah, I've been doing
the cheeseburgers and hot dogs, bags of chips and everybody.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
You know.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah, so we've been, I've been. I continued it and
because because I really miss it, you know, because back
had joined, you know, with rats, and that was a
whole big mess and you know, and then COVID and everything,
and so it got killed and it's like I just
wanted to get back out there and you know and
go fishing, you know, with everybody. So it's like, you

(16:14):
know what, we're going to start a moving.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Sometimes you got to do it yourself. And I love
I love the mentality of your your organization, Donald and
whoever shows up because my dad used to say that
to me, is if you wait and try to get
the perfect day and all your buddies schedule free, you're
never going to go fishing. Just pick a day, plan
on going, and then go and whoever shows up with

(16:36):
you can go fishing with you. It's a it's a
beautiful approach.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, we've been averaging. I've been averaging about twelve or
fifteen people. So it's always a great time. And I
try and pick you know, Saturdays, you know, you know
with the solaners and tides, because I'm the big believer
in that, because I want everybody to go out and
catch fish. You know, I'm not going to pick a
day that's not good. You know, it's like, oh man,

(17:03):
you suck, Why did you.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Pick this day?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
But so I usually picked days that have good soul
dners and good tides. And in fact, for November eighth,
I'm going to be doing something very special that I'm
doing a low country boil for everybody and everybody.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Tom Ray will be there.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, I'm doing the club legs, the shrimp, the dewey sausage.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Where do you get your shrimps from? I got a
hook up there.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I haven't John's Docks Seafood Market. It's a great place
to get your shrimp. Just throwing that out there.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, I'll tell you something for there.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
You go. Well, Donald, we are up against the break,
my friend. Always a pleasure to hear from you, and
good luck on your November eighth event and enjoy that
country boil.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yeah, well that's going to be a Babest Department Saturday
at Popstasles about one o'clock. He's setting up. So if
any launched, it's seven at Sudden and Bayou. Anybody wants
to show up, it's me and any whoever shows up.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
What time is it again?

Speaker 8 (18:11):
You say there it is, Yes, it's I'm gonna start
looking at that one twelve till about three.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
All right, brother, thanks, Donald, appreciate you man. Hopefully he
catches them up and hopefully we'll hear from you guys
on the other side. Remember one eight hundred nine six
nine nine three five two to join the conversation. Real
animals will be right back. We are back Real Animals
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(18:44):
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(19:06):
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And right now it is a great time to visit
John's Pass because there's just not a lot going on around,
so you can find parking easy. You don't have to
fight crowds, and it is really easy to park.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
In the past, you need to get like a second
mortgage to park there.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
So great question and great point that I was covering. Next,
the beautiful thing about John's Pass is there's different areas
to park, and you got to know where you're going,
so aim for a city lot. That's the economy parking
of John's Pass. The city lots are a little bit
difficult to delineate, but it's easy. This makes it easy.

(20:03):
If it's a paved lot, it's a city lot. If
it's not a paved lot, it's a private lot, and
you are going to get crucified on parking pricing, So
don't park in an unpaved lot, park in a paved lot,
or park in the parking garage. The parking garage and
the city lots are both economy parking four dollars an hour,
so it's not that bad, not bad at all, I

(20:24):
mean for a tourist area at least, But if you
park in one of those unpaved private lots, you're looking
at time twenty five to thirty five dollars an hour
in the back lot there. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Well, back when Crabbys was was open, I didn't realize
there were like two separate lots and I parked in
one and and when did they start charging, and that
I didn't know how much it was. I came back
out and it was like thirty dollars to go in
and have a couple of beers and yeah, and some
food and never did it open again.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, Florida parking is a just a scar on the
face of tourism for the beaches. Very everywhere. Predatory pricing,
yeah it is. It is very unfortunate the approach they take.
And then the UH ticketing is hilarious. If you're if
you're thirty seconds late, and when your meters up, they

(21:13):
literally sprint to your vehicle and they'll write you a ticket.
And sometimes you'll come back and there'll be two or
three tickets on your vehicle. It's like, how is this
even legal? It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
They're bored. Any something to do?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Don't get me started. It is v hanging on here
Van Hubbard. And now we also have Captain Scott Moore
after Captain Van Hubbard, so we are stacked up. All right,
let's go to Captain Van Hubbard. What's going on? My friend?
How are you?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Ah? A little chili out here this morning? Feels good?

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Beautiful?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
You're down south?

Speaker 7 (21:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
Yeah? And what are you talking about? One hundred years?
You've only been at John's past forty nine years.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Only been at John's past forty nine years, but nearly
a century.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I know, I know, he knows he's been there.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It says best fishing and dining experiences, so we can
credit nearly a century. Come on, man, it's advertising.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Come on, man, hey.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
Hey, no problem, you've been in business almost one hundred years.
No argument. But I'm just joking because I started there
the first week y'all were there, I worked, started working
for Pop. They were just still building the restaurant. Yeah,
seventy six.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And it's also the fourth generation. I get called out
on that sometimes too, because my grandfather started the business,
so technically it's three generations, but he went away to
World War Two and my great grandfather took over for
a while, so it's fourth generation.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I remember when Wilson was on TV, Yes, channel thirteen.
There were only like three channels on TV back then.
Everybody had an antenna on the roof. I think it
was like channel thirteen, Big thirteen, Big thirteen, Yeah thirteen,
forty salty solved. Yeah, all the good guys.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
Yeah, clarit, yeah, yeah, those were the days. Those were
the fishing days too. Boys.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
We had it, We.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Had it made.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
How's the fishing down by you, Van?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Well, we've had a little wind this week, a little bit. Yeah,
went out last Saturday after we were on the radio
here and caught a few pumpy No, but I haven't
found any since. The guys are catching some stook and
some few red fish. They're catching some mackerel off the
beaches and cooking a few of tartin while they're macerel fishing.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I've been hearing a lot about tarpin in the past.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
That's crazy and some pretty big ones, not little ones.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's good to hear. And it's the macrel fishing is
really kicked off. There's some huge state schools and big
mackerel pounders.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Dude, mackerels off the beaches too.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
My buddy in Dustin, they do a Dustin Rodeo. It's
a month long fishing tournament up there in Dustin. They
weighed in a seven point eight pound Spanish mackerel. Geez,
I didn't know they got that big.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Wow, that's approach and syr zero.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Seriously, that's the sure they could eat a full sized threat.
Stand they're a good sized fish. Yeah, get controlling for kingfish.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, glow in.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
The dark, eat.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Awesome stuff. We appreciated Captain Vans.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Captain Scott, I said, Hi and Ray, Sorry I missed
your birthday this year and belated happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Oh man, it's just another year.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
We appreciate you better. It always a pleasure to hear
from our buddy, Captain Van Hubbard. We got Captain Scott
more on the line. What's going on, Campain Scott? How
are you?

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Good morning? Good morning. I guess all these old guys
are getting up early.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
The legends. What's going on, buddy?

Speaker 7 (24:53):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Everything's good? Ray, Ray, this is your favorite time at water.
Killed down a little bit and what's out Well, it
was eighty two yesterday, Okay, still up there and it's
down and then it gets about seventy nine. But you know, Ray,
you know when you go out there and there's no

(25:16):
water on the flat and somebody bitches about I can't
catch a fish, you know, I normally tell them, well,
then you need to go play golf. You know, those
big trout were laying right about ten yards off the channel.
If you saw a little rip of mullet and you

(25:36):
threw a top water, it was like explosions and with some.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Subsolutely my favorite, my favorite time of year, throwing a
top dog mirror top dog.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah wait, wait, wait wait, let's slow down here. So
low tide, no water on the flat, you're fishing off
the okay, off the channel, and.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Right where that rip a mullet is, that's where the
fisher land and and Dylan once that listen, it went
from almost one hundred degrees to eighty two. And really,
as long as it's dropping, it's in that category. You know,
it's to them. It's it's there's a hell of a change.
And uh uh. The big thing is is also you

(26:23):
can throw in jerk baits people that like to fish
artificials right now is it can't get any better. You
can catch those mackerel out there with a top water
plug right right.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Oh yeah, you can catch them on just about anything
that moves.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Speaking speaking of macrel, the gotcha plug has always been
a go to, and it's impossible to get gotcha plugs
right now.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It didn't Yeah, any distributing or something.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Literally, any distributor you call, they're out. Like the classic
Gotcha plug.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
In a place the other day and I can't remember
which one it.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Was, the Gotcha Pro, the new pro Gotcha's which is
just a gotcham Yeah, it's literally a gotcha with a
little bit fancier look to it, and they've added some colors.
It's a little bit thicker of a body. They made
it look more like a mirror lure or another typical
jerk bait. And uh they charged twice the price. But
the classic gotcha plug, it seemingly is like getting phased out.

(27:22):
It's pretty pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
It's a sad day, actually, Yeah, it's different. Yeah, I'm
I haven't really paid much attention to gotcha. I've used
them and occasionally I'll use them. A lot of guys
that fish out in the skyway fishing pier chuck them
out there because you can get them, you know, cast
a long distance with them. Yeah, and they're durable. That's
the one main thing durable is it? You know? I

(27:45):
of war put fishing lures with treble hooks on it,
fishing for mackerel. The chief getting the way.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, we got a wendy weekend.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
You know.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
You know, people if you want to fish the rivers.
There has been a little bit of a push in
the rivers on all the nuts and stuff.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
But there's still.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
A lot of fish, a lot of the snook and ray.
And I discussed is a lot of the fish went deep,
they went offshore, they went deep. We did not have.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
The fish on.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
The flats, you know, because of that that real hot,
hot water, and the fish are just starting to move back.
As long as there's bait around, they're going to stay
out there. You you you probably see that of John's
Pass and all the passes. Yeah, that baits around. Those
snook aren't.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Leaving they're not going.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
There's a ton of bait around the dock in the mornings.
It's it's unbelievable really, And we still have a number
of snook, but I've I've noticed the numbers of the snook,
the concentration overall has thinned out a little bit and
it seems like they're starting to move. They're more teenagers now.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
A good thing is a lot of the fish right
at twenty seven, twenty seven and a half, twenty eight.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Eight.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
As far as lot, as far as lot fish, you
got to cover some area. Yeah, you know, you got
to cover Samaria if you're you're out there trying for
for a illegal fish.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
But Ray got himself one.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Dave Dave Palmerly sending me pictures now.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, David Welker, the mad snooker himself, is going to
be our guest at occ Roadhouse coming up October twenty eighth,
and he's given away a four hour charter, so it's
going to be a good event.

Speaker 7 (29:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, he said they had a really bad night last night.
Excuse about fifty snook.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, yeah, October twenty eighth from seven to nine pm.
So we're super pumped to have him over at occ
Roadhouse with us. I'm sure you'll be there, cam Ray,
I'm coming. Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I'll try to make it. It just depends. It's a
little bit of a haul for me.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
It depends. Just come the way.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Uh, well he might.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Did you know so that I get free coke when
I go there?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I was. I was just about to say he might
need to wear It.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Depends because throwing water out.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
I'm bringing my rein gear. Actually, I could blow the
whole place up. I'll bring my gear that I catch
my bait with in the morning.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
He really loved me.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think the.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Whole place up.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Mahoney's in there throwing cokes at Captain Scott Moore right
next to them. So you got splashed too, a little
bit friendly fire. Huh yeah, Well we appreciate you, Captain
Scott more thanks for giving us a shout this morning
and the insight there on fishing the edges.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, oh no, that's that'll help. By the way, Tonight
at the Center and Anna Maria, we're having a little
wake for Jason Stock Okay, we lost him and we're
doing that at the Ana Maria Center. Okay, up, and
Anna Maria so that'll be I think it's seven o'clock. Okay, Scotty,

(31:03):
can you'd love to see everybody come on out.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Can you send me an address on that. We can
get that out to guys that want to. I want
to show up through that. Yep, yep, thank you, just
text great, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Good fishing, everybody well chat with Dylan, Thanks so much, buddy.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Appreciate you, Cap Scott more, thanks for giving us a
shout see you buddy, the legends. We got Captain Van
Hubbard and Captain Scott Moore and captin Ray and studio.
It's what a what a lineup this morning. And Captain
Dave PALMERLOEU he's gonna call in. Oh, I bet he's
probably still putting his boat away from his charger last night.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Still, hopefully we'll hear from you as well.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Remember one eight hundred and nine six nine nine three
five two to join the conversation. Real Animals Radio will
be right back. We're back bartow Ford, Real Animals Radio
talking fishing this morning. Myself, Captain Dylan Hubbard and Captain
Ray Markham in studio this morning, having a good time
on this breezy Saturday morning, A little cooler little less humid,

(32:03):
got a cold front rolling through here. We're on the
very tippy front of a quarter moon coming Monday, and
looking forward to finally a little bit of a breather
from this wind. We've got about a five day stint
of some nice weather coming up and looking forward to
tackling it. We got a few minutes here, cap'n ray.
This week finally wind dies down. Things have dropped off

(32:26):
temperature wise. What's your plan this week?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well, it's interesting. This whole last couple of weeks has
been so windy, but I haven't been out in the
boat much to do anything because of that. There's not
a lot of places to hide up here. Back down terrasee.
There's lots of places you can hide. But anyway, because
it has been so breezy and whatnot, the barometer I've

(32:50):
noticed has been jumping up and down. I mean, it's
been going crazy, and that's that turns fish on. They
really have been chewing regardless. I mean, you can't always
get to where fish are because of the conditions, but
if you can find places that are holding fish, those
fish you're eating. And so I'm like the land captain

(33:12):
crews that are like a land crab, you know, fishing,
catching some fish and just seeing what's going on. But
coming up, I think you're going to see some slower
tides obviously from with the quarter moon and what I
try and do, and especially if you've got the situation
where you can get in a boat, you can fish

(33:33):
pinch points. What I call pinch points. It's close areas
between two bodies of land where water has to enter or.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Exit because of the quarter moon.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yes, okay, And what it does it acts like a funnel,
and a funnel just increases the velocity of the flow
of the water in that location. So just look for
ambush points and typically what you'll find, you'll you'll find
a lot of times you'll find flounder, you'll find snook.
Those two are ambushed preadators, both of them. I don't

(34:06):
look at redfish so much as being ambushed predators because
they pretty much forge for whatever's on the bottom. They
just grub around and they follow a lot of mullet,
primarily not to eat the mullet. Necessarily that they do
eat a mullet, but the mullet will kick up stuff
in the grass when the mullet are in the grass,

(34:27):
and whether it's a little pinfish or a shrimp or
a tube warm or something else. They're in their feeding
on all that kind of stuff. So you look at
what is the food source where you're fishing and try
and match it to the best you can. For instance,
if you're you're shit fishing on the flats and you're

(34:50):
in fairly open water. I mean, some of the few
lures that I have caught sheeps had on are the
day shrimp fished about everything eats this shrim and the
little john from her loure. But you can use any
kind of jerk bait basically that that's only you know,
four inches long something like that, and they'll eat it

(35:13):
because they eat worms and a lot of marine worms
on the flats, and particularly on low tide. I mean,
if you ever get out and walk around on the flats,
you'll you'll see things squirting up in the air, the
little little holes a little and a lot of times
it's clams that are down there. But years ago, just
off of the Skyway inside Tampa Bay, you had the

(35:38):
clambar and there were just bazillions of clams, and you
could take a washtub and tie it on a rope
behind you and we would fill a wash tub with
with a little cherry stone clams and some bigger cohog
and whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
When you would want to eat clams out of Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, Well they're filter feeders and they filter so much water,
I mean between oysters and clams, and that's what helps
keep keep the water quality better. And you know, different
organizations like CCA salts Wrong they're working on programs to
help restore some of the oyster beds and seeding with clams.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
One of the things that I don't understand is to
build a dock you have to get all this clearances
in this EPA blessing to create a shaded area and
kill sea grass. You should be totally mandated. It's right now,
it's illegal. It's it's impossible to do. I think it
should change. Instead of being illegal, it should be a

(36:38):
rule that you have to when you build a seawall
and build a dock, you have to put in clam beds.
Those clam builders, those oyster reefs ben thick on the
bottom and subsurface, so that way underneath your dock you're
creating ecosystems to scrub the water and filter the water.
It makes no sense because right now if you did
that underneath your dock without permitting, it's technically illegal, Whereas

(37:01):
I think we should incentivize it. And also, while we're
at it, let's incentivize artificial turf. If you live within
a mile of the waterways, let's give you a tax
break for putting an artificial turf. We got to go
to break.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
But the reasons for not having that too, Yeah, but
they won't tell you that.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I think there's reasons to have it.
But let's talk more about that on the other line.
Or fertilize it and fertilize it, yes, real animals. Radio
will be right back, Remember, join the conversation one eight
hundred and nine six nine nine three five two. We'll
be right back after this. The history, the history of
all things fishing. It's interesting stuff. We got more coming

(37:41):
up here. We've got Captain Justin Moore speaking.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Of more and more more.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, and we've got Captain Mike Perry and Captain Jim
Fogel coming up as well, So lots coming up. Don't
go anywhere. First things first, we'll get to Captain Justin
Moore since he's been holding on the longest. What's going
on Captain Justin. How are you, buddy, Oh.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
Oh, good morning, Good morning Ray. I'm I'm getting close,
but I think I've known Ray for almost a half
a century. Anyways, we're getting.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
A long time one.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
Of my vivid memory. Yeah, one of my raising grades.
A great, great person in the hell of a fisherman.
I was very fortunate to fish around him in my
youth and in my early guiding career in Tarracea and
and McGill and everything, and he was always on the fish.
But uh, anyway, I wanted to just call and say

(38:36):
good morning everybody, and just remind everybody my dad spoke
a little bit on it. We're having that full sent
memorial for Captain Jason Stock. That's at uh the Anna
Maria Island Community Center. That's four oh seven Magnolia Avenue,
Anna Maria three four to two one six is a
physical address, and that is five to eight pm. I

(38:58):
would recommend coming out, you know, you know, at least
by five because we're gonna have some speakers and talks
and everything and we've got food and uh and drinks
and some activities for the kids, uh to keep them busy.
So uh, come on out. So I just wanted to reiterate.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
On that, and that was Anna Maria. What was the
name of the place, Uh.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
The Anna Maria Island Community Center in the city of
Anna Maria on the north end of Anna Maria. So,
and it's a beautiful area. And even if you follow
Jason on social media, you want to come out and
support it. It's a people that have not been up there.
It's it's it's old Florida. So just think you can
get a nice drive anyway.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Can you shoot that address one more time?

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah, it's uh the physical object. It's four o seven
Magnolia Avenue. Yeah, Anna Maria, Florida.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I was out there one time. Jason was having some
kind of thing going on. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
It's a beautiful area.

Speaker 7 (39:59):
Yeah, it is in the center does a lot for
the community. I you know, I being born and raised there.
We you know, we played t ball there and and
and they still do a lot for the for the
kids and and older people too. So anyway, yeah, everything
is good.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Good fishing.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Uh the real quick on you guys had mentioned in
the last segment on the the mitigation, oyster bar clams,
et cetera.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
A lot of a lot.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
Of the best fishing in this county and in particular
Sarahs de Bay and they did some in Periico years
ago were mitigation oyster bars. Most guides and and and
general public people fish around them, catch fish around them.
Today they don't even know that they were artificial. They've
taken on, they've expanded and they they look completely natural now.

(40:50):
And it's a really big deal. It would be great.
We need more oyster bars. I don't know why they
don't do it with all the with all I mean,
we need to really push for that for sure. And
of course clams are just as important. And and Ray
was talking about, you know, clams on the on the
outside of the bar, especially off a rattlesnake there. It
was unbelievable. When I was growing up, my my aunt

(41:11):
and my uncle which Ray was really close to years ago,
they'd go out there and just feel coolers full of
sun ray clams and all different kinds of clams. It was.
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
There's a guy down in Anna Maria uh ed ed Films.
I forget his name exactly off the top of my head,
but uh he was doing something with clams. Because one
of the one of the things that always interests me
is how how you can incentivize private business, because if
you can incentivize private business, things move quicker and get done,

(41:43):
I think a little bit more efficiently than government. Right,
and uh, incentivizing private business through aquaculture because clam raising, clams,
raising oysters, and allowing aquaculture, you're incentivizing private business to
get into that conservation space.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
And you're right though. One of the beneficial did the
residents of Cherrasea Island. He he had the clam leases
out in Joe Bay and then Joe Island Island just
on the on the north side.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
We still buy clams from them for our seafood market.
Oh yeah, Joe Island.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
There's quite a few restaurants down there that you get into.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, there's and it's a bustling area. And I think
if we incentivize more of that aquaculture, you're creating that
because even aquaculture leases they have, they have shedding, and
you start to create natural reefs as a byproduct of
those aquaculture areas.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I know one of the places they set up a
clam lease is right in a hole that I used
to catch monster trout in and it really racked me
off because they kind of fenced it all off and
I couldn't get into it.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
You do have that the unfortunately it does take area,
so there is that stakeholder conflict. But I think for
the long term life and health and benefit of our estuaries,
I think it's beneficial. It's interesting, though, what's your take, Justine?

Speaker 7 (43:02):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no, absolutely, I agree. I mean and
even the even the places were raised talking about them,
very familiar with them. It actually has created habitat on
the bottom and you can fish around those areas. You
just have to be careful anchoring and of course if
they're in there with their die flags, you got to
stay clear of them. But those guys have been great,
you know what I mean. And so yeah, you can

(43:22):
never have enough habitat, and with with all the habitat lost,
it only makes sense. And with all the you know
those oysters, you know, those the oysters that they get
from the restaurants, you know, all that calcium deposit goes
on the bottom. Yeah, and everything the little baby's attached
to it, and it's just it's it's really impressive.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
Really.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
If if I took you and showed you some of
these oyster bars. You would never even guess in a
million years that they were not natural at one time,
you know what I mean. And you know why, especially
right now with you know, it's one thing. You know,
you want to take that those oysters and dump them
on top of seacret because you know, then you can
kill the seagrass. Don't eating. But right now, while we

(44:04):
have the seagrass loss in areas where there's a lot
of sand down these shorelines, that's the time to go
in there and dump a bunch of deposit a bunch
of oyster shells and let it naturally grow. But you know,
there's a process like everything else. It takes a long
time to get the permitting and everything, you know, But
you can get a permit that Rep. Mangroes out and
put a dock in pretty fast from the state. That

(44:26):
doesn't take any time. But I don't want to you
know anyway, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Saying, but I digress.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
Yeah, I agree, But you know, I feel like we're
going in the right direction. And in some ways, you know,
we're trying in Mandu County here where we're really dealing
with a problem with boats being anchored up on the
shallow grass, and then those boats stay there and they're abandoned.
And you know, we all know what happens when you
put plywood on your grass and let it sit for
months in your yard. When you take it off, it

(44:53):
doesn't look very good. So but you know, there's always
going to be those fights. I feel like, you know,
Tampa Bay water Keepers, Sarasta Bay water Keepers, you know
c c A, Salt Trump. There's enough local organizations. I
think everyone's going the right direction.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, just keep the pressure.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
People need to be educated and and and belong to
those organizations and you know, do what they can. And
you know, everybody just does a little something and it
adds up in the end. But uh, anyway, I just
want to say hi to Ray and and Dylan and
and good fishing everybody.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
And you're talking about water movement.

Speaker 7 (45:31):
Yeah, when you're talking about water movement and and and
gaps and passes and points raised, absolutely right. And and
especially you know, say you have an east wind on
incoming tide, and you might have a bay where there's
wind against tide, and especially on a slower you know,
quarter moon or whatever it may be, you don't have
as much water movement we'll maybe just think, well, if
I go around the corner and the wind's blowing with

(45:51):
the tide around the other side of the island or
another area, it may not be that far away. It
can make a huge difference where the water's working with
the wind as far not against it. So little things
like that for an angler make a huge difference in
getting bites and how productive you can be. You know,

(46:12):
in that amount of time that you're on the water,
Just go fishing when you can, even when the tie,
even when it's a full moon, or you know, even
if you it's a slow moving tide in the day.
People should always go fishing when they get a chance
because fishing as much as I do, and other guides
will agree with this too, and general po people, some

(46:34):
of your best fishing days can be on slower tides
because you might have an exception of a strong wind
direction where it might actually blow a little water out
or in an area that it normally doesn't work. So
just go when you can, go when you can, and
that's the only way you can learn.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
It's always a learning experience.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Use the geography to your advantage, is what I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Well, here here's one little tip up I find. And
the most useful instrument I have on my boat and
the winter or the summer is a thermometer the water temperature.
I mean, I can find a ten degree variance in
water temperature in the wintertime and sometimes even the summer,

(47:15):
and that's all that matters, and it's totally important. Sometimes
when all the other factors are kind of a nil thing,
you know, hardly any any water movement or anything else.
Water temperature might be the one thing that triggers these
fish because temperature of these all these fish are cold blooded,
and whatever the water temperature is, that is what their

(47:37):
system is going to be engaging to and it increases
the metabolism when the water temperature rises, okay, And once
that starts happening, they burn whatever food they have in
them or fat that they have in them, and it
responds to feed again.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
So there it is. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (47:59):
Have to eat the fish. They have to eat, right,
So don't you know that's some of the You can
have really good fishing on colder days if you just
you know, play your cards right. But uh, hey, the
biggest difference to team me and you, right, I don't
need a thermometer because my hands are always in my

(48:21):
nice and dry exactly. So all right, tight lines man, thank.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
You, thank you.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I might see you there tonight.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Awesome stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Take care.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Just good dude, good dude. For sure. We got Captain
Mike Perry coming up. On the other side. We've got
Captain Jim Fogel and then Captain Dave Palmerlo as well
the Mad Snucker.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
So are we going to hear from Fantasy Fast Friends or.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I think so. I don't know. We're gonna get enough game.
I think I like Lord, stay tuned for more. Real
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(49:27):
With that, we got Captain Mike Perry on the line
from Big Pine Key, and then after him, we're gonna
get to Captain Jim Fogel. What's going on? Capt Mike?
How are you? Buddy?

Speaker 9 (49:36):
Hey Dylan?

Speaker 6 (49:37):
Hey, Ray?

Speaker 9 (49:37):
How you both doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Another damn paradise? Buddy, how are you?

Speaker 9 (49:42):
That's a great same thing? And Ray, Yeah, fantasy pest
is coming up.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
I get out of here.

Speaker 9 (49:50):
I rent the house out. I've had this group who
has rented my house back years ago and keep renting it.
And I get out in every hotel room, every Airbnb
home that's open from Key West even all the way
up to Homestead for twelve days is fully booked. I

(50:11):
mean the island sink.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Are you the king this year?

Speaker 7 (50:15):
No?

Speaker 9 (50:15):
I'm not the king there. I feel like Mahoney's on
the show.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
How's the fishing going?

Speaker 9 (50:24):
Fishing is great, We're coming up on it's prime saale
fish time of year. You can tell. You just have
to look at the tournament lists from about two weeks
from now all the way through March. Beginning of March
it's all sailfish tournaments I'm actually fishing into. I'm fishing

(50:45):
in the big one, the Almorata International Sailfish Tournaments. I
got an invite into it.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
And got a crew put together.

Speaker 9 (50:54):
You can either donate your time as a captain or
you can put your own crew together, and that's what
we're doing. And then got another big one in January.
So the fishing's been great. We are catching some sailfish.
They're all in the forty to sixty pound range. Where
what I've been doing has been trolling them up with

(51:16):
the bally Who on feather lures, and when we find them,
we have the assortment in the tank and we throw
goggle eyes, we throw bally Who live bally Who, And
it's just a really, really great way to catch sailfish.
You try and locate a fewel by trolling, and then
you just set up, drop that powerpole, move and the

(51:38):
contender into the water and just work that area and
try to get a few and it's a really good time.
The snapper fishing Dylan has been good. This is the
time of the year for people who don't have a
boat or don't have the funds to hire a charter
Captain the Bridge Snapper. Fishing from muttons and mangoes is crazy, easy,

(52:00):
good right now, and we're talking non measurable fish. You
can look at them and know they can go in
the cooler if you want to keep them.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
So the fish has.

Speaker 9 (52:10):
Been really, really good, and Ray, I just wanted to
comment for for anybody who's listening to the show. If
you've picked up a Florida Sportsman over the last many,
many many years and read the locator section that talks
about each region of Florida, Ray Markham has been telling
us what's catching, how they're catching them, what they're catching them.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
On and for years.

Speaker 9 (52:36):
So if you've picked up a Florida Sportsman and read
that section, you've read what Ray Markham writes. And everybody
in Braden'son, Florida, where I grew up knows the name
Ray Markham, so and that you knew.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I think there's a couple of policemen that was another story.
Back when the patio was still open.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
The patio, My my family, my used to hang out
at the patio. So I'm sorry, but anyway, I just wanted.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
To call give a report.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Appreciate you man, keep doing it. Thank you cat Mike.
We appreciate it, buddy, Always good to hear from you.
We've got cap'n Jim Fogel on the line as well
for our visit Saint Pete Clearwater safe Boating tip of
the week. Appreciate him hanging on this morning, our caller.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
List legal advice coming in. I can hear it now.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's been a busy morning with callers, so
I appreciate you guys hanging on with cap'n Jim Fogel
and Captain Dave palmerlu coming up and hopefully we'll hear
from you as well well. Remember one eight hundred and
nine six nine five two Real Animals Radio will be
right back. We're back bartow Ford, Real Animals Talking Fish
and myself, Captain Dylan Hubbard and Captain Ray markhaman studio

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this morning, jumping right to our buddy, Captain Jim Fogel
with our safe Boating tip of the Week, brought to
you by Visit Saint Pete Clearwater. Cap'n Jim, Appreciate you
holding on, my friend, Sorry about that, Yes.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Sir, yes, sir, yeah, I got a got a good
man in the this morning. I'd like to read his article.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Good morning Jim, Good morning Ray.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
We did to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Got we try and keep up.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Got a couple of things go aheads her, and.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I said, we try and keep up with y'all over
there on the water. Yeah, boards cool?

Speaker 6 (54:20):
Hey uh.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
A couple of weeks ago, just off a grassy key
for Keaton Beach, the young lady was scolloping about five
feet when she got attacked by a shark. She remembered
what she had read or seen on Animal Planet and
attempted to but where he had her, I guess behind

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her or behind her legs. I mean, she couldn't really
get to it. So her brother, luckily, her brother, a
firefighter and an e MT in Taylor County, jumped out
of the boat and repeatedly punched and kicked the shark
until it released her. And he got her in the
boat and they got her airlifted to Tallahassee, and she

(55:04):
was in critical condition, but supposedly her spirits are good
and her friends are seeing she's going to come around.
That's that's a great good.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I'd love to hear her story in about ten years.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Yeah right, yeah, yeah, that would he get better.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
She's like a fisherman will get bigger and better.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
The brother. That's quite the story there too.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yes, yeah, I hope he gets a good award for that.
That's outspending outstanding efforts. This next one is not quite
as nice there. On October fourth, a court in Leesburg, Georgia,
convicted a man that was twenty two year old man

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that was operating a Nitrobe bass boat at approximately sixty
seven miles per hour when it struck a center console
during the second of an invitational fishing tournament. The impact
resulted in the deaths of two gentlemen. Two others had

(56:10):
to go to the hospital, and the driver of the
Nitro also was in the hospital.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
The District Attorney's office has indicted him for three counts
of manslaughter and two counts of assault. Also reckless operation
of a vessel, failure to follow boating rags, and not
having a boater safety certificate. I know that none of
our people would do that, none of our listeners. But

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just beware, guys, that's just two damn fast, you know.
I mean, there's hardly any time that we should be
operating about that fast.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I can say some time, Joe, I can say from
fishing with some of the bass guides on on Okachobe
that many miles an hour as a starting point for
a lot of them and their tournaments when they're when
they're trying to get from point A to point B,
and they might want to fish twenty or thirty miles
from the start, And I'm just the guy's like a

(57:12):
racecourse and it's dangerous. You better know what you're doing
when you're running like that, and you better have all
the safety gear with you because you might need it.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
The water is very, very very hard when you fall
off going seventy miles an hour. Trust me.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, I've fallen off of skis at about thirty five
or forty and that's bad enough, you know.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Yeah, I'm a concrete. I'm here today because of life
jacket designed. I fell off of jet ski going over
seventy and woke up luckily, face up in the water,
floating on a on a on a life jacket. Thankfully
I was following rules and had the right stuff on,
because that that stuff is it's dangerous when you hit

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the water going that fast, When you hit the water,
let alone hitting another boat, I mean obviously it's.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah, no, yeah, no, I have a nephew that that
has a basket boat. I don't remember what kind, but
you know he wears a kevlar jack jacket on him
and life jacket all the time, and and goggles and
hopefully helmet. I doubt it, but that would be a
good thing.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
You're wearing kevlar, a life jacket and goggles.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
That's in case he gets shot at around the corner.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, getting crazy, but the kevlar, the kevlar would help
your ribs and your your your heart if you bounced
out of that boat.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
You know, Sweet Jesus, this is it's a whole different.

Speaker 7 (58:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
And nine knots.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, well we'll just keep it down.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
I mean, I understand what you said, Ray, and I've
seen it, but four and I think it's crazy.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
But that's the way they like to do it.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
But this is one of those times where it just
didn't work out. H It is, it is, and we
have that problem. So please people, if you're going to speed,
pay attention.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
So you're telling people don't go out and buy a freeman. Now,
I don't know. I'm driving around Sarasota sometimes I see
a boat on and the Trampson's got like you know,
six fifty merks.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. We appreciate it. Captain Jim, thank you.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
All right, guys, thanks a lot for the time for
the Coast Guard osilience. Hey p Jim Fogol will be
safe out there.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Appreciate you, buddy. Visit Saint Pete Clearwater Safe boating tip
of the week brought to you by our friend Captain
Jim Fogel. We've got Captain Dave Palmerloo on the line,
the Mad Snooker looking forward to joining you October twenty
eighth from seven to nine pm over there at occ Roadhouse.
Going to be a good time for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
It's allow night.

Speaker 10 (01:00:03):
Good gentlemen. I'm telling you the caliber of callers you've
had this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
And then I called. We got like Fitzgerald on the
other side as well, so we're starting.

Speaker 10 (01:00:18):
Yeah, you have all these legends calling in and and
then you get the crazy snooker and I ruined.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I ruined.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
I've been out all night.

Speaker 10 (01:00:27):
I literally ran a double last night and just got home.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I just literally how do you do double in the night?
When do you start like sundown?

Speaker 10 (01:00:38):
I did an eight pm to twelve pm, then I
did a twelve pm to like five am. I gave
the guy an extra hour because he's a heck of
a tipper, and we ended up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
You got to put this out for everybody listening. If
you want an extra hour, you got to.

Speaker 10 (01:00:52):
Be a heavy dipper and got to be a heavy tipper.
But he is a heavy he was. He's a good
he's a good guy. But we caught like probably thirty
five stuck on the first leg, and then maybe forty
stuck on the second leg, and then we had we
had a blast and I'm still in a couple of
really big ones. But the wind was pain in the neck.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I'm still at a loss for words. You started a
charter at midnight, charter.

Speaker 7 (01:01:16):
At eight pm to midnight.

Speaker 10 (01:01:18):
Then I did like twelve fifteen to about five fifteen
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:22):
Just got home, literally just got home.

Speaker 10 (01:01:26):
No problem when you live the hour I lived because
I waked up at forty.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
But yeah, it was good.

Speaker 10 (01:01:33):
I mean, Scott Moore, Van Hubbard, I mean justin it's
just like what a high account, you know, would be
great just to get together with like Scott Moore and
Van Hubbard and do like a big you know, brave
Markman you simar all together?

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I uh what we were talking about last week at
Captain Dave palmer low Is After the show, Mike was
talking about doing a real animal show on the party boat,
and I was like, no, no, no, let's change this up.
Let's have like a get together other like Captain Rick
Ross he did our thirty nine hour trip. Do a
party boat fishing trip like a thirty nine hour hopefully

(01:02:07):
and try to get everybody out there. Ray would you
be in that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
That would be brutal? Yes, I'd be in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
He's signing up. Captain Dave, would you be in?

Speaker 7 (01:02:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Well we got a track we I mean, think about
Florida Sportsman. Back in the day, all of us would
get together. We'd have the Florida Guides Association meetings, all
the guides in one room. It's always nice getting together.
To take all of us, take all of us, put
us on a boat, and take us seventy to one
hundred miles off shore for thirty nine hour straight. I

(01:02:37):
think it would be awesome and it make great TV.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I'm used to being an off the water after twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
That's why we're trapping you on a boat. It's beautiful, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
They're not just saving grace. The food is phenomenal, exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:02:52):
When I lose sight of land, yeah, I'm sick, and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
They'd make dram drama.

Speaker 10 (01:03:00):
That was one of these I have to take a lot,
and I'd have to take a lot of dram meaning
on that one. But yeah, it was, it was, It
was great. I mean, like I said, Ray, you've been
I've been reading your stuff in Florida Sportsman for years
and my my my old running gag about the Florida
Sportsman is well it's not true, but I always think
I keep getting richer, but I can't get my picture

(01:03:22):
on the cover of the Florida Sportsman. My dream that
on the cover the Florida Sportsman.

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Put that to music and you got something there, I'll
tell you.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
Well, you know what I mean, the cover of the
Roll the roll in Stone exactly. I always said, on
the cover of the Florida Sportsman, which is for like
thirty five years, it's been my dream to put my
ugly mug on that cover.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Would you do in the rest of the time. I
mean I started in nineteen sixty.

Speaker 10 (01:03:51):
Nine, Well, well, you know, I didn't start really fishing
hardcore nook until nineteen seventy two. Oh, okay, seventy two
is when I got my start.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
But yeah, I think I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I quit fishing for a while then because because of
the water quality got so screwed up and dredging and
filling in the sixties back then.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
Yeah, before I'm before I'm gone.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
Maybe you can pull some strings over then we can
get my ugly mug of the.

Speaker 10 (01:04:18):
Big stuck on the cover of that magazine. And i'd
like to you know, it's pictures. I'm well, I gotta.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Get you good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I'm just over here like a fly on the wall
for this conversation, and I just want to point out
that Captain right in, Captain Ray said back in the
sixties when the water quality went to hell because of
the dredging and filling. So fast forward to twenty twenty
five and we're complaining about water quality issues.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Yeah, but now now instead of just dredging and filling,
it's dumping and you know, sewage, raw sewage. I mean, yeah, crazy,
you don't want to keep the floaters.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Appreciate you, Captain Dave Palmer lud thank you for calling
in my Budtony.

Speaker 10 (01:04:57):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Looking out great you are the man, Dave. Yes, sir,
looking forward to seeing him. October twenty eight, seven to
nine pm at occ Roadhouse. We've got the Hall of
Famer herself, Captain Lisa Fitzgerald on the line. What's going on,
Captain Lisa, Well, good.

Speaker 11 (01:05:14):
Morning, gentlemen. Gosh, I didn't know you have a legend,
Ray Mark. I'm on the show too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Come on, we are just stacked up, covered up this morning.
We're very blessed.

Speaker 11 (01:05:23):
Yes, yes, yes, well I want to thank you Dylan
for helping Mike and myself put together that wonderful package
for the CCIA Florida Star Competition. No problem or ceremony, Yeah,
my pleasure, Bill Maher, what a gorgeous place. And then
Captain Mike is donating a half day trip. I mean,

(01:05:45):
holy cow, that's going to be a great opportunity for someone.
We have next Saturday over in Coco. The award ceremony
going to be awarding coach to a half a million
dollars in prizes. But the coolest uffect of that is
actually awarding that one hundred thousand dollars in college scholarships

(01:06:07):
and the Guy Harvey Foundation Use Scholarship.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Division that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
It's definitely going to be a good event for sure.
And that's over in Coco Beach.

Speaker 11 (01:06:15):
Right, Yeah, it's in Cocoa Beach at the Space Coast
Convention Center. Beautiful place. We have a wonderful dinner, great auction,
live auction, silent auction, great food, entertainment, open bar, seventy
five dollars for the ticket. That's not bad with open
bar and Chicken Marsala for dinner. Ray, are you joining us?

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
I doubt it. And unless I go over to stay
at Mark Nichols house, I probably won't.

Speaker 11 (01:06:50):
Well, I tell you you and Mark should come to
the event. It's going to be a fun time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Let's do it again.

Speaker 11 (01:06:56):
It's October the eighteenth, it's next Saturday day, coming up fast,
coming up fast. But I just wanted to give Bill
Maher a huge shout out and Captain Mike because they're
both donating, uh, you know, a trip, and it just
it really means a lot to the organization, unto myself

(01:07:18):
in general, because this is how we raise our money
in order to fund these U scholarships. You know, in
the eleven years that we've been doing this competition, it's
over one million one hundred dollars one hundred thousand dollars
in college scholarships. And this is just kids catching fish.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
That's awesome. I've got a question for you. We're up
against the break, but I got a question for you.
We just brought up this, this idea of sticking everybody
on a thirty nine hour trip and h taking everybody
out there, all the guides.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
You're in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Captain Jeff Cage just chimed down too. He's in so ray.
You're getting locked up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
I know you have a girl. Show me up now,
will show.

Speaker 11 (01:08:04):
Us all up a bucket?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I have fish me a bucket. I know how you are?
Get you a bucket for what?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
For all the fishes about the cat all?

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
I thought the crew will be able to keep up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
They have like things around my neck.

Speaker 11 (01:08:18):
There it is around my neck so I can fish
and throw up at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
No chumming.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
No chumming.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
The bucket, yeah we got We'll have.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
The three course country breakfast. We'll be eating good and
catching fish. It'll be a good time.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
I'm in so let's uh, let's do it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Captain Lisa, we appreciate you calling, Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:08:45):
Thank you, and we'll see you guys soon, see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Always a pleasure. Hopefully we are enjoying the show. We
got another segment coming up. Don't go anywhere Real Animals Radio.
We will be right back. We're back bartow Ford, Real
Animals Radio talking fishing this morning. Want to give a
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Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Do you have to read that? Actually? I mean by
now I probably should be ingrain in your soul.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
It's normal. Normally MIC's reading it, so it makes more
sense when Mike reads it. When I read it, it
doesn't make as much sense. But yeah, we've freestyled a
little bit too. You know. You just keep it fresh,
keep it on your toes, and every week it's a
little different, you know. But you can't beat some fresh seafood.
And they definitely have some good purveyors over there, friendly fish.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
I've only been on Hubbard's you know, long range boats
a couple of times, but they don't really have a
lot of seafood.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Why don't they just like we're busy catching it? Yeah,
why why would we serve seafood when you're catching seas because.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
You got all this other stuff. You got hammers and
spaghetti and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
That you're having is a really good country breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
That's a guy. The best best food I've ever had
on the water. Yeah, I mean literally, if you just
go for the food, it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
It's always a good time to get out there and enjoy.
Everything's better on the boat too. The beer tastes better,
it tastes I mean, it's just everything's better than kind
of boat. Yeah, Well, if you're on a thirty nine
hour trip as a guest, You've.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Got a thirty nine hour trip, and I was sort
of a guest, but I mean like it was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yeah, it's a good time. It is, uh, definitely an
interesting time this week to get out there and capitalize
on this good weather window. We finally got one, and
this time of year especial. We've talked the whole show
about how cap'n Ray is excited inshore, near shore and offshore.
This is an exciting time too, because you start to

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compress your fishing opportunities and also the fish compress their
feeding times with these coal fronts. These coal front's coming down,
the wind picks up, the barometer drops, fish shut down
a little bit, and then you get these narrow weather
windows where they feed really heavily. So capitalize on the
good fishing coming up this week. Today is going to
be a little bumpy. Tomorrow's calming down a little bit,

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but Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and intwo Thursday and even now
Friday looking pretty darned good. And as we move through
the week, we'll be approaching that new moon, so the
daytime fishing should get better as we move through the
week as well, and the fish are turning on. We
got lots of mackerel on the beach. Kingfishing be far behind.

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Hog fishing is really picking up near shore, that shallow
stuff offshore, we've got red grouper, scamcrouper, triggerfish, big mangroves.
This time of year we see bigger, average sized mangroves.
The mutton snapper bite should be picking up. We've seen
an incredible pelagic bite with pretty consistent while who a
few of those blackfintuna, some big kingfish already, and like

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cat Mike Perry was talking about, this time of year
becomes that time of year where we might see some
of those sailfish showing up too, So exciting times to
get out there near shoring offshore as well, And if.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
You're insore fishing, you know you can jump right in
there for the next few days before flounder season.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Closes October fifteenth, right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
The fifteenth, and it's closed for about a month and
a half the end of November.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Right when they're biting best, right exactly, And.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
If you're really really into fishing, lizardfish spawn in November.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
So hanging there, I'm marking my count.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
The world is coming. I mean it tastes like snook.
If you've never tried one, you need to try one
one time. I can see the decimated the species coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
I was about to say, he's got to be pulling
my They gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Be like two three pounds to do it. Really get
a good We get some.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Big dogs off shore. They make great red grouper bait.
I've never eaten one because I'd send it down.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Good gad grouper bait. We used him inside Tampa Bay
before there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Grouper love the lizardfish. We don't as much but catch
Tomorrow six twenty WDAE Real Animals Sunday, seven to nine am.
On six twenty WDAE Tomorrow night, seven thirty pm our
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