Reel Animals Fishing Show Sunday 10-18-25

Reel Animals Fishing Show Sunday 10-18-25

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good morning, Tampa Bay, nine to seventy WFLA talking fishing,
gonna be here until eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Unfortunately only till eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Good Lord willing. Lots of stuff to cover today. Fishing
is absolutely off the chain. Breezy, touch, breezy, a touch
a little bit. They were calling for ten to fifteen
yesterday and that wasn't That wasn't very accurate.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Did that workout?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, it wasn't very accurate. They got the fish cooperated
with the wind. She was a blowing. So what's it
looked like moving forward?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It looks like things are gonna calm down a little
bit here in the beginning of the work week. Tomorrow
is still gonna be a little breezy. It's gonna pick
up again tonight and into tomorrow morning. But definitely looks
real nice there. Monday, Tuesday into Wednesday, got a little
bit of a cold front lineup this week, got a
week one at the end of the weekend here, doesn't

(00:59):
really affec and then it looks like we get a
stronger front there Wednesday afternoon into Thursday morning, and that
will have a little bit more of an effect. But
if we got a cold front coming late midweek. We've
got a new moon Tuesday. It looks like, feels like
should be really really good fishing Monday, Tuesday and into Wednesday,

(01:22):
ahead of that bigger front on the backside of that
little weak front on that new moon. A lot of
moving water, a lot of good flushing bait, really good
weather window.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
So water times, right water times, right bite was really
really really good yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
The kingfish here. Oh, yes, that is the that is
the word. We got a twenty plus pound kingfish trolling hardware,
planer and spoon at at the bowie.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
We had a probably a forty pound fish out side
of the boat yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Close we weren't We weren't far off the beach.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
We were close at the side of the boat.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Land followed a mackerel follow My guy caught a mackerel
and my mate Zeke Dumas was over the side of
the boat reaching for the line to bring the mackerel
up to de hook it and went, oh my god,
there he is. And right away I thought, no, that's
the kudah. Nope. I look over there. I'm like, nope, nope,
that's not the kuda. I'd say, giant kingfish. I'm like, wow, No,

(02:20):
that was the only one we saw, But I talked
to a couple of guys that went a little bit
further than I did. It was a little breezy out there.
I tried to sneak out there a little ways and
hope we could get it going. And it got a
little breezy and that wasn't going to go as far
as one of my other buddies went. But he went
and came back and was like.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Sh I have a large box of macerel with plenty
of kings mixed him.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, so they are here.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, Thursday Wednesday this past week, the school he started popping.
We were getting the six eight pound fish, the babies
that you had to kind of squint at as.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, kingfish my shirt right.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And then Thursday that's when the big dogs shot out,
I mean broke off. Multiple flat lines got spooled, one
on one troller and then one one boat brought home
a twenty plus pound fish. And over the weekend it's
been it's been pretty solid. So yeah, that's looking forward
to more kingfish fun in shore.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Red fish bite was phenomenal. I came inshore yesterday and
couldn't leave my trout bite. I was on a trout
bite for about an hour and a half that had
we probably caught fifteen fish that were over twenty inches
nice and they weren't like twenty inch skinny trout. They
were big, thick backs on the super healthy. That's crazy,

(03:37):
so much bait.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
We were talking to Captain Ray Markham last weekend during
the show and he was talking about snook already being
back up in the rivers.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh, for sure, the rivers are going off.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, the rivers are going off. All your rivers are
going off. The snook are pouring into the rivers. It's
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(04:36):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
You cat me off guard.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I just absolutely love it. And we're ahead of the
new moon. I mean I didn't. When I got out
there yesterday, I was a little bummed because it was
calm for ten to fifteen. Early in the week it
was calling for big wind. So I'm like, well, Friday's
not going to happen. I'm not going out there twenty
to twenty five. I'm not going to do it. Well,
then it kept coming down and down and down, and
I thought, all right, cool, we can do this. Bait

(04:58):
was easy. But boy, I got out there and man,
and what was weird was it seemed to be blowing
in the dark. Yeah, loading up the boat, hooking up
to it, everything, I'm like, okay, it's blown pretty good.
Then we got done catching bait just after the sun
came up and it kind of died out a little. Yeah,
I'm like, hey, we're going to the beach. Got out
on the beach and you know when you're close. We

(05:19):
were at the drop, yeah, like this is doable. Then
of course out of the east, so as you go
out it feels pretty good. And then all of a
sudden we got out there, got anchored up, and then I.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Was like, I've made a mistake. Yes, this is going
to be an interesting ride back. That's what happened on
the Flying Hub two yesterday too. I was talking to
Captain Sea Bass, who was running the boat, and same
thing it getting boat ready in the morning, or maybe
we're gonna be hog fishing today. And then as some
came up, client showed up, Oh it's pretty nice stick

(05:51):
of nose out there, it's not too bad. Start running
west and all of a sudden, as soon as you
slow down and turn around, get up on that anchor
head and you're like, oh wow, yeah danger.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I had a couple of guys call me, some of
my intore buddies that were running, just calling to see,
you know, hey, what do you got going? What's the word?
You know, like we always do, and I'm like, I'm
off shore and they were like you're ware that went yeah,
and then I made I made.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
It, answered your cell phone though.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So well, that's true. I'm near shore, well for us
in my bay boat. But either way, I was like,
look at all the look at all the other bay
boats out here. I was making jokes some of my customers, everyone,
all the other guys decided to do the same thing.
We did, look at all the bay boats as we
were all alone. Not one of my brighter moves. Luckily,

(06:43):
the big trout by saying, and you know what we
did catch? We caught some big Spanish. We caught Benito.
We got rocked up by some grouper. I had a
couple of cutoffs, and so I ended up kind of
rigging a couple of big rods for some kingfish. I
kept thinking I heard good things about the Kobea. A
couple days before that, some guys snuck out there had
some kobia. So Kobe had been spotty. Yeah, we're out there.

(07:04):
We were kind of we were. I was trying to
be ready for it, but finally I just gave up.
I'm like, okay, we got to go.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Did you have to tick tack back in or did
you were able to shoot it straight?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It wasn't too bad. I kind of came straight back.
I just ran back towards the don Cisar just it
wasn't bad. Yeah, No, it wasn't terrible. Put all the
people in the back of the boat just get that
nose up and just kind of let it ride, you know.
We were definitely wasn't putting it on top and letting
it eat. We were, you know, we made it back
pretty quick. Wasn't too bad. Nice, Yeah, dude. The kingfish

(07:36):
are exciting though, it is. Yeah, it's good, an exciting.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Time and I'm hoping and praying keeping my fingers and
toes crossed there here for a little while we get
some good meat, yeah, because we need a good showing
the kingfish that came back. It's been soft, especially the
fall run. Yeah, so hopefully it pops off for us.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well for me, you know, for you guys in the
big boats, and the big boat guys it's it's it's
not a big deal. But for the bay boat guys,
it's nice if you can get a couple of days
mixed in there where it's nice so you can get
out there.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
We're definitely in that fall batter Man yet. A few
nice days cold front, a few east wind days, a
few nice days cold front. I mean we're into that
battern solidly.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Any predictions on what we look at, what we're looking
at for a winter. I've heard guys already starting.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
To think Lannina is setting up. So Lanina setting up,
you generally have a more mild warmer winner.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay, so you think it's going to be mild. I've
had a couple buddies thinking it was going to be
a really rough cold winner.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Globally, the setup is showing a more mild warmer winner.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
What was it last year showing a cold winter?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I don't recall if the top last year was kind of.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Cold, it was kind of chilly.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It was bloody. I didn't I didn't think it wasn't
like a hardened down winner last year. But we had
those pretty big fronts, especially towards the end of winter.
I think was a lot colder.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I think that's fresh. I still think that's so good.
I hope we have the same thing. I think it's
so important. I think it beats down some of those
a little bit, some of the.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
And I personally think even if you have like a
La Nina effect and you don't really have these hard
and down fronts, you can still have a few and
that's really all you need is that water temperature to
get real low a couple of times. It doesn't have
to stay low.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
No, we don't want it to stay low for sure,
But I think I just think for some of those
cold water species to have a really it's good.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's good for the ecosystem. I think it is right
that strong north wind for three days flushes everything out.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Things get cold, and it kills a lot of the day.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It doesn't drain. We need that wind to drain it
for us. And I mean the near shore hogfish bite's
been picking up. Offshore. We've a few times we've been
able to get out there. The bite's been really good.
Uh so, I mean all around inshore, near shore and offshore.
Everything's excited right now.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm a little I've been getting some big reports of
lots of really large game, group of shallow already. Yeah,
really good report.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
And that's early too. I mean we haven't had a
really strong coal front yet. I mean the stone crabs
aren't even really crawling. Stone crab season opened up.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Which very excit. Fridge. I have about six pounds at home,
yeah today, Yeah, I can't wait. I was thinking the
same thing like.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, but the first pool they only averaged maybe about
a quarter pounds and a half pound a trap, so
it wasn't a really good first pool, and that generally
is because of a coal front. You need a really
big hole front to get those crabs crawling, and that
also makes those gags come in suore and signals them
to start fattening up for their spawning migrations to their

(10:45):
spawning sites aggregations offshore. So I think it's going to
get even better.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
My report my guys from down south, and the report
I got was that it was really good.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Oh I'm sure it's it's good. But what I'm say is,
I think it's going to It's going to reach a crescendo.
We're going to have like borderline riots because the gag
group of fishing is going to be so insane in
shore this year. That's my prediction. Everybody's gonna be like,
there's so many gags, this is crazy. I can't believe
season was only two weeks. I'm looking forward to the

(11:19):
biomass showing out for us and showing the reasons that
we hopefully can get an increase and access this coming year.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Based on what I said, based on what I've already heard.
One of my closest friends in the in short charter
game had like several like just fishing docks, just like,
oh what is going on here? Just like crushed. I'm like,
I know that.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That's so funny too. Well. The gag grouper just the
behavior of a shallow water gag. Oh boy, I mean
you you hook a big gag offshore. He gives you
a good fight for a little bit, but he kind
of gives up once he loses sight a bottom in shore.
Then never lose sight of mout They never give up.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Nope, nope. I'm telling you that shallow water group of
thing I've done in Crystal River several times. That's as
as bad as my shoulders have hurt. Yeah you're fishing. No,
you're not fishing straight up here. Yeah, you're fishing out. Yeah,
making long casts with heavy tackle and just getting freight trained. Beautiful,
beautiful stuff. There's no doubt about it. Phone lines, we're

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bring them right here. Captain Mike Anderson, Captain Dylan Hubbard,
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Get an update from a good friend, Donald and lutes. Donald,
what's going on? Brother?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Hey, good morning guys. It's great to hear everybody back
together again.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Always good to be here, Yes, sir, sure.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
So I'm heading to Palm Harbor right now.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Talk to outing nice.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Been a long one fit subling by you boat ramp there,
but and then we're gonna have at twelve forty five
is one o'clock it's just sound a couple of blocks
to pop Stanzels gonna have be the best cheeseburgers in
Popstanziels Park today.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Nice, I believe it. I don't think there'll be much
of a contest, that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
But the ongers probably they should be good outing.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
You know, we got the new moon coming up and
some good tides. There's a bunch of us that had
not not me, but some of my peeps want some
stuff in the c c A Star Tournament. So yeah, yeah,
so they're all heading over to the banquet today, so cool.

(14:30):
So probably maybe about I I say about eight to
ten of us will be out at the outing. So
it's not a big group, but still going to be
a great.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Time representing, representing. It's all good.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Absolutely, I'm so glad that, you know, we had some
winners from from my group, you know, in the Star Tournament.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
So they give away a lot of stuff. Man, I'm
surprised more people don't sign up for it, I really am.
I mean they have, we have a good sign up,
but it should just be crushed. They should have to
cut it off. There so many people wanting in on
that thing. I mean, it's one hundred and one days
of fishing. It's not like it's one day or a
week or even a month. It's one hundred and one days.

(15:13):
You have the entire summer to win stuff. And again
I understand the skepticism of it because just a lot
of that stuff. You know, I used to play the lottery.
I don't play it a lot anymore. It's hard to win.
Lots of people do it. I get it, but I literally, like,
I know the guy who won the truck.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, it's like playing It's like playing the lottery. But
I mean the lottery is like you have a better
chance of being struck by lightning right winning power ball,
whereas the CCA Star Tournament, you're not talking about that
many people.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You're really not talking about that many people.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Ods are very much better.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I literally had a family on my on my boat
catch a trout and then win a boat.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
And what's crazy is we all we all know someone
who's caught a tag redfish, right for sure? Like five
people exactly. I mean it's nothing than one. Yeah, none
of them were in it, or it was before or after.
It's so silly to me, man, I just don't get it.
But anyway, good luck out there.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Today. Donald, catch him up, buddy, and then enjoy the bank.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
And I'm already registered for Star for twenty twenty six.
So if I catch a tag redfish, it doesn't matter
what year this tag was. Four you get one thousand
dollars in goo coolest, coolest price package. I mean, come on,
it's a no brainer.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
No brainer. Help our fisheries, fishing insurance, Help our fisheries,
Help our fisheries. Donald, catch them up today, buddy, You're
the man.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
All right, party safe everyone, No, I wanted cheeseburgers. Thanks
a lot, Donald, It's really easy to get. Mike stirred
up about cheesebroak six twenty nine and I wanted a
cheeseburger dog on it.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's crazy how that happened.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, it's it's messed up. It's usually Ben Marshall. It
does that to me. Sennis and sliders, you know, seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
He normally has like a bag of McDonald's in here too.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, he just suits.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You just know it doesn't help. It does on thing,
there's no doubt about it. We got the great Derek
Dubo's on the other side. Here'll be the first voice
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One eight hundred nine six nine nine three five two.
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(17:21):
Welcome back again. Phone lines are open here one eight
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(17:43):
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
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with the man.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, with the Matt Matt. Yeah, it's gonna be pretty cool.
Plus bull Ray Rods Ingle Cooler's Real Animal Swag, Hubbard
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Fishing could show up. We've had Scott Moore out there
and Captain Ray Markham and the late Great Vance Tice
was was a regular there. You know, Mister Mike.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Mahoney sometimes with legend throw Coca cola at people.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, just pour a coke in your lap. I mean,
imagine how excited you'd be matter of fact, we haven't
seen sscons since.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You show up one time.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Try to be a good guy, drive all the way
up from Sarasota, and Majony throws a coke int your lap,
just like that. You never come back.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah. So we were talking about kingfish and we conjured
up Brian Loak himself. You know, he got that boat
and he's out there trolling. I was talking to him like,
so what are you trolling? Expecting him to talk about
trolling hardware or trolling some type of lawre. He's just
straight up trolling. Nothing but big live bait. He wants
a big kingfish. Okay, yeah, well that'll do it. That'll

(18:59):
do it.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Trolling through the schools, that will do it. Yeah, that
will do it. Slow bumping in and out of gear.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Slow mackerel. That would be my bait if you want
a big But I guess you got to use it mullet, right,
you can't use the mackerel.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I think you can. I think you can use them,
but they gotta be short short. Well maybe that would
make sense, that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't think you can use the macro. Maybe not
black mullet, ladyfish, those are good options, but you want to,
I mean the live bait troll in side of things.
It's you got to keep that line tight, but not
too tight. It's a tricky thing.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
You want to keep it in gear. Troll with the tide.
That helps too. Yeah. I've had probably my best days
ever twenty five years, and I used to kingfish quite
a bit. My best days of size. If you're targeting
big kingfish, in my opinion, it's better to slow troll,

(19:57):
even big thread fins, big white baits, blue runners, great
kingfish baits, speedos.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
You can get some big speed meat chicken mullet.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
A big meat chicken mullet would work well too. But
if your target, if you got I always if I
have guys on the boat who want to target big kings,
if they want to try to catch a smoker, trolling
is the way to go. If you want to get
out there and just have fun, get in the action,
Get on the hard bottom, live well full of pilchards,
some big baits mixed in, put a big you know,

(20:29):
bait out in the back as far as you can,
and then just some smaller rods and just play with
those schoolies. You know you can still catch, you know,
you're out there with you know, some medium inshore tackle,
some long shank cooks. I caught thirty pound kingfish on
long shank cooks before. You know, if they eat it
right and you just get the right you know, you
put the right tension on it, Yeah, you can. You

(20:49):
can catch that fish. So when you go through a
lot of long shank cooks, Mustad makes the best long
shank cooks in my opinion. There's you can get them
by the hundreds, and you know that that's what I do.
I even double some up. I was doubling some up yesterday.
Is that what it's called chaining them?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
If you tie them together, then that's a snell knot,
But that's not smart with the kingfish because they'll cut them.
Chain them together. Must AD's pretty much the only hook
you can do that chaining with because you can open
them up because it's that bronzish material and you open
the islet and chain them together that way.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
That's what you're talking about. Yeah, I just actually if
you just turn the hook. I don't know, I can't.
It's hard to do on radio. But if you just
turn that hook the right direction, and I take my
pliers and just push it through, just kind of squeeze
it through. You can put them together. It works pretty good.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Chaining hooks together is a great That's what they do
in the southeast coast, like Miami area, the drift boats,
the party boats down there, there's not really a bottom fishery,
so they drift and everybody puts out lines for kingfish
and they'll chain three long shing hooks together. That's their
kingfish setups.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, okay, I just do too, yeah, but we do
still get cut off, especially when they're.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Doing two on a smaller piltered These are three hooks.
If you've got like a blue run oh okay, I
got you. That's your kingfish set up. Oh interesting, Yeah,
that is interesting.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, when i'm if I'm after them, if I'm after
really focused on just catching them, because I find if
you wire you you don't get the bites on the
mackerel as well. I don't know what it is why
one species of mackerel is like, yeah, we'll eat the wire.
Any other species like.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Even kingfish, if that water is clean and clear, it's
tough to get a bite with the wire. The wire
can mess you up. You gotta you gott to tone
down the wire, get light. It's one of those things.
If you don't use wire, you get you get the bite,
but you might not land the fish. Use the wire,
you're gonna land the fish, but you might not get
the bite right. So it's this delicate balance that you

(22:49):
have to play.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I think that's you know, that's the balance you play
with everything. Tarpain the same deal too. You know, if
the water gets clean during tarpaun season, you're on all
these fish and you can't get bit that leader down
to forty you'll get bit. You won't land him, but
you'll get bit, you know. I mean we did it
for years down in Book of Grand You know, you'd
have customers on the boat be like that dude's jump

(23:12):
three over there. I'm like, how many did you see
him land? Well? They all got off. Well that's because
he's using forty pound liter. I can do that. We
can get the bite, but you ain't gonna get him
to the boat. I thought you hired me to catch you
at tarp and not jump you at tarp. You know
what I mean. I mean there's a delicate balance.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, And the idea, my suggestion is always start a
little bit heavier where you think it should be, like
that fort at number four, that forty four or forty
two pound wire right starting there. And then if you're
not getting the bite, maybe dropped the number three wire.
And then if you're not getting the bite, maybe shorten
that up, little little less wire in front of that
first hook. Just getting a little bit more stealthy, Maybe

(23:50):
eliminate the swivel. Try to do what you can to
get as stealthy as possible.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Right, big juicy baits always helped to.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, they're looking at the bait and not the liar family.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, who gotta have it for sure. Let's go to
the phones here. Let's check in with a good friend,
Tim at Fisherman's Hut. Tim, how are you.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
Good morning, guys, how's everything going.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's fantastic man. Good to hear your voice, buddy. What's
you got for it? You always have such great calls.
I was excited to see you on the call screen here, pal,
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I actually am headed down to Cookina Beach right now.
It's the three peers out there. I went out there
for the first time yesterday with my boss, the Yogo,
and it was almost to jubilee. I've never seen that
many fish congregating in one area, and it seems like
it's very very healthy down there. The jetty you can

(24:43):
kind of see up under, and there was no stacked
on top of each other like sardines. There were so
many sheeps head around it was unbelievable. There was a
couple of our clients that are absolutely pro anglers down there,
and after catching a hundred baby jacks on our Kappa jggs,
we're looking down to see these big, delicious sheeps head
and I was like, man, I'd love to catch one

(25:03):
of those sheeps head right now without live bait. You know,
it's extremely hard if you want to do.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
It the legal way.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
And so Chip, which is our buddy, went down raked
up sand fleas, didn't get big ones or anything, and uh,
within I don't know, thirty forty five minutes, he had
his limit of eight eight sheeps head. Yeah, action every cast.
It seemed like it was very very consistent. So it
seems like this this little old Chris morning that we're

(25:32):
getting is absolutely snapping him into shape. So I'm headed
down there to take advantage of that bite as we speak.
But I did see that giant kingfish caught on the
half day the other day, and it made me a
little envious. It dwarfs the kingfish that I caught about
a year ago. So I'm gonna have to talk to
Diego about hopping on some of these half day trips

(25:54):
and and going out there and doing some troll. And
I wanted to ask to people have a preference when
they're slow trolling to use spinning gear over conventional gear.
Do you guys have any kind of input on that.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Me personally, I would always prefer conventional gear, especially slow trolling,
because when you're slow trolling, you're you're targeting that big fish,
that really big kingfish, So I want as much line
capacity as possible. Plus, in the charter realm, you're going
to be handing that rod off to a guest who
might not be as experienced, and spinning reels get dangerous

(26:32):
because you can twist that lineup real easy if you're
not if you're real and while the drag spinning, So
I like conventional reels from that aspect. Plus, you have
just a nice long bend to the rod while you're trolling,
it's easy to put in the rod holder. So I
prefer conventionals when trolling.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
I always, I almost always use spinning gear because I'm
on charter and because I just have lots of spinning gear.
But I will tell you the best Kingfish professional team,
in my opinion, on the planet is the tro Marine guys.

(27:12):
And they use all conventionals in all mono tournament, all
your tournaments, your tournament tees are all conventional, So that
tells you what you need to know. You know, when
all else fails, copy what they're doing because they know
how to catch it, you know what I mean. So
I've caught a lot of kingfish trolling of a bunch

(27:35):
a bunch with spinning gear. You can do it. That
being said even Ozzie Fisher, who's a great you know,
we film shows together Kingfish and had some great launches
that we've caught on film, and we're always using spinning gear.
So you can do it. But those in the know
go conventional for just morea well, and it's just yeah
that and again, like you said, you know the bend

(27:57):
of the rod. There's just so much to it. But yeah,
for sure, conventional all the way.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Awesome.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Do you guys have a favorite artificial that you use
for rish?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I do not I'm almost always lib.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Rpola x RAP and the no mad mad Max have been.
I always have a not mad Max and no mad
dt X, though I have a hard.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Time with that because those plugs aren't cheap. They are
not and the two fuses on those critters. The nomads
hold a lot better.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
The rupaalas are good for maybe three, four or five fish.
You're you're gonna it's gonna stop trolling, it's gonna start
popping up, It'll get out of whack. The lure just
gets ruined. But the nomads they hold up well. There
are three times the price of the roapulas, twice the
price of the rupaulas.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
But I I just can't imagine a cutoff of one
of those.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Oh yeah, but a lot of those artificials, man, they're
they're not work.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, they work. There's no gud about that. They work.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Great questions you're losing about After losing about one hundred
dollars in jigs, I had to go to the Van
Fuco wire assist took to actually land some kingfish instead
of empty out all of my dick wallets. So I
know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, it gets pretty pricing. Great call, brother. As always,
we appreciate you. Tell everybody how they can find you
down there Fisherman's Hut.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I'll give you guys the address since I know you
guys love that.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I do love the address. That's great, that's best.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
We are down if fourteenth Avenue down in Brandonton, Florida,
the Fisherman's Hut. It's going to be me, either me
or Diogo down there. He is a wealth of knowledge.
I try to keep up with that, but that's the
main man. If you guys like jigging, vertical jigging, casting, popping,
that's your specialty. So come on down and see at
any time.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You're the man. Brother. Great call is always have a
great weekend. Good luck catch him up down.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
There all right, have a great day, Catain, Thank you, Goddy.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Eight questions. He's always dropping good questions at occ too. Yeah,
because he's a really good dude, really good dude. We
love those reports coming in from the local bait and
tackle stores. If you're a local bait and tackle store,
give us a buzz. We'd love to give you a
plug and get some reports. Again. You know I've been
saying it for years. If you're new to fishing, make

(30:20):
friends with your local bait and tackle store, your mam
and pop shops. Man, that's where it's at. Those guys
want you to keep coming back to buy tackle, so
they point you in the right direction every time. And
they know, yeah, yeah, you walk in and you're like fishy,
smell fishy. That's good stuff. Talking fishing here on the

(30:41):
other side, full lines are open one and nine six
nine nine three five two. Would you buy anything from
a fishing tackle store that doesn't smell fishy? I want
some fish smell in my world, buddy.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Come on, what about those inland shops. I don't have
bait tanks.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
That's our fault. They're out. They're inland shops. That's where
you go for your bass information. It's different, all right.
That smells like worms. Crickets, that's what that's.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
You can hear the crickets in the back exactly. They've
got to smell fisher sound like crickets. You got it, Yeah,
I got you covered, dog. We'll be back talking fishing
on the other side. Nine seventy WFLA. All right, here
we go. It's not even seven o'clock yet, and I'm
going to be even hungrier. You know why, because the
Friendly Fisherman at John's Pass is back under the management

(31:28):
of the Hubbard family, the same family that's been serving
up the best fishing and dining experiences in the Deer
Beach for nearly a century. Come rediscover the Friendly Fisherman
and taste the difference with the freshest seafood, improved menus
and service you've come to expect from the Hubbard's name.
Enjoy unbeatable waterfront views, a welcoming atmosphere, and flavors straight
from the Gulf. Locals and visitors. Come see what's new

(31:50):
today at the Friendly Fishermen. Oh yeah, what's it called.
They've got the cat putter.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Cat putter.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
The cat.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Every time I see now, every time I see this,
every time I see Friendly Fisherman Seafood restaurant, I think
of the cat butter every time. It's your dad's fault.
I'm not happy with your father.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, you can't beat the cats.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
I'm gonna you know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna sit
down there to order first. I'm gonna order a cat putter,
and they're gonna look me like I'm an idiot. The
waitress would definitely be you want what I want? The
cat butter mark cupboard to the cat putter is the one.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
The Captain's platter with a slice of grouper, some scallops
and some shrimp and some rice and veutcheese. You can't
beat it, for sure. But the October food special right
now is a lemon garlic, shrimp and scallops platter with
big plump scallops and juicy shrimp served over a side
of mashed potatoes in top with a lemon garlic sauce.

(32:49):
And I won't show you the photo because it's insane. Yeah,
it looks really good. There's a there's a video here.
I appreciate that it's borderline. It's it's not cool.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I appreciate that I might text it to you. See
what I go through people. He tries to me, He
tries to make me out to be the bad guy.
But see what's going on here? See who the instigator is? No, yeah,
not me? Yeah. The lifted Barto Ford truck out front,
I have like a leveled, you know, calmly done truck

(33:22):
pulled in the parking lot this morning. And the giant
glowing the dark billboard. You can see it from three
hundred miles away.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
The lights aren't even installed yet.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, there's some satellites picking up the Hubbard's truck, Dylan's
truck as he drives down the road. I want to
know what's going on. Looks like something out of the Purge.
For god sakes, jet Black. I do enjoy it. It's like,
you know, bulletproof glass, and it's psychotic.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
You got to be prepared, man.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I see that. I see that. I'm feeling it. I'm
feeling it.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Whether it's a flood, zombie apocalypse ready to go.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yes, you are so very very good stuff, very good stuff.
Phone lines are open here one eight nine, six nine
nine three five too. I'm trying to figure out the date.
I've got a I was wondering what you were doing.
I've got an event coming up here. We have an
event down at South seas On Resort. I'm trying to
get the dates right for you. So I'll get all

(34:23):
that organized.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
And I'll tell me about things because then I can
keep them straight for you.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
But well, the wonderful people down there at their marketing
department sent me this sheet of like thirty seven things
that I could mention about it. But it's not very organized.
So I'll dig through it and come up with the goodies.
But I do love southseas On Resort. If you are
looking for a vacation the holidays are coming up. I mean,

(34:48):
it's it's an incredible place down there at South seas
On Resort. I've been talking about them on the Sunday
Show for year. It's one of my favorite fisheries. They've
got great captains that run out of there. They have
huge marina. They've got a b voting event coming up
down there here in November the seventh through the ninth,
actually is what it is, and it's it's going to

(35:08):
be a big event. We'll talk about that on the
other side. Hopefully we'll hear from you as well. Again.
Phone lines were open here one eight, nine, six, nine, nine,
three five two the bartell Ford Real Animals Radio show.
We'll be back, Welcome back. So as we were talking
a little bit about South Season Resort before we went
to break there. This November, South Seas is probably hosting voters, anglers,

(35:33):
veterans and first responders for a special event called Real
Heroes Weekend. It's happening Friday through Sunday, November seventh through
the ninth, they are doing deals on rooms, deals on
dockage there. I mean from one end of the property
at South Season Resort to the other. They're gonna be

(35:53):
doing stuff all weekend long adventure games for the kids,
all kinds of great stuff. If you're looking for a
great getaway again, it's happening Friday through Sunday, November seventh
through the ninth. If you go to the website Southseas
dot com and you can look this up and your
group attendee code is ABW twenty five against. Southseas dot

(36:17):
Com is a website. They have two great marinas there,
a bunch of the restaurants are reopening. They've they've got
a water park coming down there. They have golf a
golf course on there that's really really nice little golf
course I mean with an impeccable view. By the way,
it's on the Golf of Mexico, so it's it's a
really really neat place. So again, go to Southseas dot

(36:40):
com check out this event. Anglers, Veterans, first Responders, Real
Heroes Weekend at Southseas Island Resort. We have the Man,
the Myth, the Legend, Captain Jim Fogel, nice visit Saint
Pete Clearwater Save Boating Tip of the Week Coast Guard

(37:01):
Auxiliary Captain Extraordinary Captain Jim Fogel, don't interrupt me before
I'm giving you your proper introduction there, Jim, you need
to be properly introduced, my friend. We can't just say
Jim fogs On. You know you're the You're the legend.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
You guys are too good.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
You got it almost. You have almost as many shows
as I do.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Well, you know my anniversary will be coming up in February.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
It in February. You're gonna let us know. Yeah, all right,
we'll do a little anniversary. We'll get Derek Debos or
Jason Barringer to play some anniversary music.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Anniversary.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I don't know, I made that up. Yeah, well, Derek
is so good, you'll come up with something. Play a
birthday so it'll be close.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Yeah, let me get I got to get serious. Share
for a minute. Boy. I hate to do it. But
last Sunday, up there somewhere near Dylan's hangout, forty eight
year old from New York was operating a rented Yamaha
WaveRunner racing another jet ski, not looking ahead of him,

(38:20):
took his eyes off his direction of travel. He then
turned around, allegedly realized the crash was about to occur,
and jumped off the wave runner. The jet ski crashed
into another wave runner operated by a gentleman who had
two kids on board. All three were ejected from that

(38:40):
jet ski and recovered, but several of them had to
go to the hospital, one with life threatening injuries and
one was out. The little driver go ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The little girl was offloaded at Dawn's dock. The seven
year old girl and the eight year old boy was
injured as well. Luckily, the boy was injured pretty heavily,
but not as life threatening that the little girl. The
seven year old went to All Children's with seriously life
threatening injuries. But I've got updates this week that she

(39:16):
turned a corner and is expected to make it, which
is obviously real.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
Yeah, i'd heard the same thing. That's great. The guy
on the first jet ski was arrested and charged with
two counts of BEU causing serious bodily injury and one
count a reckless operation of a vessel.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Oh boy, again, you know I've said I've said it
for years that we live in paradise. I mean, trust me,
if you ride with me, you know I don't think
the traffic is paradise. The rest of where we live.
The rest of where we live though, when you go

(39:55):
to the beach, you come over the skyway and you
look at where we live and what we get to do,
we get to play. It only takes a second out
there to do something you know, irresponsible, silly, stupid, however
you want to call it, and it would change not
only your life, but maybe other people's lives forever, forever.

(40:16):
I mean, we you have to put safety on the water,
especially with all the people we have using our waterways.
You have to put that safety first. It is a
very very crowded place, especially on the weekends. It is packed.
It is crowded. I mean, it's just you have to
put safety. You have to pay attention. You can't run
around out there, you know, drink a bunch of beers

(40:37):
and act like you can just go jump on a
jet ski and act.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
A full I believe he continer on the jet ski on.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Oh lordy, that's not good.

Speaker 7 (40:47):
Well, better report. A better report was Wednesday. Florida Fish
and Wildlife team was headed toward a capsized boat with
a dive team on it when they got a radio
call asking for help. There was a boat taking on water.
Operator was trying to get the boat to a nearby

(41:11):
island before it sank. But the FWC got there and
loaded the passengers all onto their boat, including a woman
who had limited mobility, and just as they got everybody
off the boat, the boat sank, So it all ended well.

(41:33):
Don't have any idea why the boat was taking on water.
You know, stuff happens out there. You just have to
do your best before you leave the doc to make
sure it's you know, it's in the best shape it
can be, and that you know everything's okay, and that
you're going to go out and have a good time
and get home. You know, thankfully everything ended up well.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
In today's world. In today's world with the high speed
pickups and and all these things that we have for
our live wells and all that on the boats. And
it happened to me in my twenty three Dorado years ago.
I had my actual high speed pickup pipe feed into
my live well snapped. I was catching bait, I was

(42:13):
on my way in my boat's filling with water. I
didn't even know it because the high speed pickup it's
coming in the boat. The more I drive, it just
keeps filling the inside of my boat. A real good
friend of mine who's no longer at my Hoonies anymore,
Matt Stafford, And when I told him the story, I
went in there a week after I told him the story,
and he gave me this set of these little wood

(42:33):
plug dowls. And I don't know where he got them,
but he was like, hey, you need to have these
in your boat. When you open that hatch and you
see that you have a broken thing, you can take
one of these the right size and stuff it in
there and at least you know, slow it down, because
I mean, I was full. If I hadn't got to o'neils.
When I got to O'Neil's and there hadn't happened to have

(42:54):
been a guy standing on the sea wall right as
you come in to o'neils. He saw the tear on
my face. I'm like, I'm going to sink this bad
boy right here in the marina. And he saw it
and he was like, what can I do. I literally
threw this guy in my keys and was like, you know,
wrap truck back it in for me. He literally ran
slowed another guy down from getting in front of me.
Back my trailer in so I could put it on

(43:16):
there just before we wouldn't have got it on there.
So I recommend finding a set of those little wood dolls.
I still have them in my boat. I keep them
all the time. I'd recommend finding some of those. Oh
do they Okay? I would add some of those two.
Where's the best place to get those? You know? West Marine?
Does West Marine have them?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Mahoney's.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Mahoney's has them, West Marine, you know, somewhere get your hand, Yeah, somewhere,
you know, get your hands on a set and put
them with your safety gear, just so you have them.
It's really a smart thing to do. Could happen.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
Take one that's kind of a foam like a whiffle
ball is made, okay, and it's it looks like it
looks like a cone, and it's it's one it's one
piece instead of four or five dows and the tip
of it's real small, of course, And so you stick
it in whatever the hole is and you push it

(44:10):
down until it fills that hole up.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:13):
So that's just that's a good alternative. Also, I'm not
knocking to no.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
No, it probably makes it. This was probably fifteen years ago.
I'm sure that it's come. It's probably come a long
way since then, you know what I mean. So, I
mean it would make sense to get you know, and
I'll probably upgrade my set now that I know there's
some phone ones out there, because that makes a lot
of sense, a lot easy, Yeah, a lot easier. You
can have one, yeah, right, yeah, makes sense, great stuff.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
I think I tied mine. I would tie mine to
the through hole down there, so I could jerk it
off as through hole broke or something and just poke
it right in the hole.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
That makes sense. That's pretty smart. It makes sense a lot.
I like that. Good stuff. You're the man brother. Nobody
does safety like you. Kid. All right, buddy, appreciate.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
Ready for the coast Guard absol. We'll be safe out there.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Have a great day, my friend.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm surprised he didn't bring up the guy that fell
off his boat this week catching bait.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Really Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't know who it was, but I heard that
there was an incident at the Skyways a boat hit
the bridge. And then when I started reading through the comments,
apparently someone was catching bait, got pulled over by his
cast net and the boat was in gear. Unfortunately, but
luckily he was okay. No injuries, scary.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
No doubt. Safe boating tip always brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (45:32):
You know what's crazy on that note, the visit Sainte Clearwater.
The JW. Marriott in Clearwater Beach is now up for
that new Michelin Key Award. So Panel's County has multiple
Michelin rated restaurants because Michelin Star program expanded to Panela's County.

(45:52):
So we have Michelin rated restaurants. Now we're gonna have
a mischilated Michelin rated resort hotel. I heard that the
Jew Mary. Yeah, heard good things about it many many times.
I told my wife. I was like, we got to
get in there before they get that Michelin.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
So many great there's so many great places to stay
over there on the beach. I love Saint Pete Beach.
My family's been vacationing there for yeah years.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, you've got Saint Pete Beach, You've got Clearwater Beach,
the Reddington's. There's so many cool places there really is
that whole that whole stretch from Saint Pete Beach all
the way north. It's just stretch of beautiful beach after
beautiful beach, great little resorts, great restaurant, everything's in walking distance.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, it's really really a special place, for sure. So
good good stuff, good stuff, for sure. Phone lines are
open here one eight hundred and nine sixty nine, nine
to three five two. We're gonna go to a report
from Big pine Key Captain Mike Perry. Hopefully we'll hear
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from Big Pine Key captain Mike Perrymichael, how are you.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Mike Dylan, how you both doing today?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Doing well, buddy, fantastic? Another dam paradise.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Real quick before I get onto my report, that story
of the guy Dui hitting the people there with the
jet ski. Folks, if you really want to have a
cold one or anything, it's simple, hire a charter captain.
Hire a charter captain, because ninety nine point nine percent

(47:55):
of the people out there that their charter captains. They
falls of the rules of the road. And you could
have your cold drink and do your fishing and enjoy
the outdoors, and you could have your beer and you
don't have to worry about operating that boat at all.
So that's my advice. And don't get me wrong, I

(48:17):
love a cold beer, but they stay in the cooler
till we're back at the dock and the boats put away.
So just heed, heed my advice. Just they're looking for you.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
How's the fishing down there, buddy.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Fishing's been great, buddy. The snapper fishing has been fantastic,
and you don't have to go far to catch nice mangoes, muttons,
yellow tails. We're catching them as close as the bridges,
all the way out to the reefline. Plenty of plenty
of snapper right now. Some big muttons we got into.

(48:56):
We got four yesterday and we were only in about
sixty five foot of water, and they were all good
eight to ten pounders, nice nice fish, big long leaders,
nice big chunk of fresh valley who on there. That's
my favorite dead bait from mutton. And I don't cut
them in half. I just whack the head off and

(49:18):
the tail off, and we use that double snell rig
a lot of times when the when the balley who
are real long and bury them hooks in there. Remember,
like I tell everybody, snapper have some of the best
eyes underwater, and they are very line shy and gear shy.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
So what size? What size hook is that? What size
hooky you use the mic?

Speaker 6 (49:42):
I use anywhere from a four ROT to a six sot,
dependent upon the depth of water, on fishing, dependent upon
the size we've been catching.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah, test.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
Now I'm using forty pounds. I use forty pound and
I'm a mono guy on all those rods and I
go to I'll start at a thirty I'll actually downside
the floor carbon leader, and then I'll work my way
up if we're having breakoffs, Like I tell everybody, you've
got to get bit to catch fish. But if we

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get bit and we break a few off, then you
just start moving up the chain with the with the
leader till you kind of match what what's not breaking
or anything like that. So I do the same for
the big mangoes too. The yellow tail, that's the whole
different game that I love breaking out the light tackle.
I have a bunch of Mike Anderson's real animal rods,

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those the eight to seventeens, and we use those for
the yellow tail. Is their fun. And occasionally you get
a big mango will come up in the school.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
When you're yellow tailing, you get those big mangoes and
those muttains come up in the bottom.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
Yeah, but it's it's a blast because you know, you
immediately know it because that rod almost doubles up right
up underneath the boat.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
They're like, what do I do?

Speaker 6 (51:06):
Hang on? Real And I'll tell you when I'll tell
you hang on. They're gonna make a mean run real quick,
but they're not gonna get back down to the reef.
You're gonna be able to stop them as long as
we don't break them off. And the sail fishing the plagics.
The sail fishing is really starting to catch fire. We
did do some troll and we went out a little
deeper because the wind had laid down and we had

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four on and we landed to yesterday. So uh wahoo, Yeah,
you get a mixed bag. We're still catching a straggler mahi.
The northern Keys are still catching a lot of mahi
key Largo up to North Almarana. They're catching a lot
of mahi still, which is which isn't unrare, but it's

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rare for us in the southern southern part of the Keys.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Good deal, good deal. You're up against the clock. Here.
Tell everybody how they can find you.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
Buddy eight one three four three four eight zero eight
six Captain Michael forty seven gmail dot com, or just
call Mike Anderson and his one eight sixty six game
fish and he'll shoot you our way if you didn't
get the number. You guys, have a great day. I'll
be headed your way. Get out of the craziness. Fantasy fish.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Click clack, all right, buddy, you the man, have a
great day.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Have it going, guys.

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And if you're looking for a charter and you're not
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Make sure their license, they're insured, all that good stuff
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Love it, love it, good stuff here talking fishing here
on the other side. Hopefully we'll hear from you, guys.
One eight hundred nine sixty nine nine three five two.
We got a big segment here, then the little segment
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eight hundred and nine six nine nine three five two
The bartow Ford Real Animals Radio Show. Let's check in
with one of our favorite legends, Captain Scott Moore, joins
us Scotti. How are you, buddy?

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Good, Good morning, Good morning. Hasn't it been a strange
bite in the mornings? Has everybody noticed that? And about
midday the fish just go off.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
That way offshore?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Is it just is it.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
To start each morning?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Look at look at the weather. There's not a cloud
in the sky right now. The barometer is super high,
crazy high. You know, you know, we don't it doesn't
normally stay this high in Florida. And uh, you know
we had that back door front and and it's really
strange now as I say that macro fishing has been

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are that kind of fishing on the beach and out
you know, uh, to a couple of miles, it's been
to everything can catch a mackerel, tarp and sharks, it's
been you know, a lot of bait along the beach.
It's been that has been good and then but as
far as the bay is concerned, in the mornings, it's
been kind of tough.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah, it's been a slow start and then it picks
up through the day. But that should get disturbed here
at the end of this weekend with this little, tiny,
tiny front. Hopefully it makes that barometer move again. Yeah,
we lose them.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I don't know. Oh, yeah, we did lose them. He
went away. I kept waiting for him to jump back in.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
There, and you don't. You don't cut off Scott Moore.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
He waits exactly like, I'm just going to keep my
mouth shut and let the man talk. They didn't want
to hear me. We want to know what Scott has
to say. Yeah, was interesting, but yeah, it's Uh, it's
been an interesting weather pattern. I mean, we've had a
long stretch of this wind here, so.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
It's been an interesting tropical season.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean to make it all of September without a
landfalling hurricane on on the northern.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Why would you even say, why would you even I
don't even know why you touch on that. Leave it alone.
It's way too early.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
We still have a lot of timeline.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
It's way too early.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
But what I'm getting at though, is it's been a
weird trend. Yeah, I mean this this whole tropical season.
We have these storms that form on top of us,
or try to form on top of us and move
away from us, or they come at us like they
normally do, and then they turn. It's been very strange
and a lot of the long range four are showing
very similar trends.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
So let's hope it stays the same. We got him
back out, Scott Moore.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Yeah, I apologize.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Oh it's okay, buddy, All good.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
So so anyway, you know, it's over the years, you know,
I've seen that pattern, but not all the time, you know,
not all the time. I mean, it's it's uh, it's
just you've got to be smart about it though.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
The other morning, in the morning in the bay, you
couldn't get anything going at all. But fishing has been good,
we can't complain. And poling down slow, yeah, a lot
of snooking around the rivers. Of course. You know the
secret with snook fishing is don't you tell me. I

(56:49):
might I might tell you at the next seminar.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Oh, Okay, I got to come to occ to find out.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
You got to like it when I say it. Okay,
he's not gonna farmar LOEU is not gonna like it
when I say it. No, I'm just teasing. I'm just seasing.
I mean, hey, Mike, well one time I come out
of the river early in the morning and every other
dock had a snook light at it. Just think about

(57:19):
where all the fish are. I mean, if you were
a fish. Okay. And the the other day there was
a tournament. The guy was bragging about catching a big
snook in the river, and uh, I happened to talk
to it to it to him, and he goes, yeah,
that's exactly where they were, even in the daytime. They
were laying around those lights, with the docks that had

(57:40):
the lights on them.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah. Move why move right, won't belong The light will
beyond and the bay it will be there.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
You still gotta work, You still have to There's an effort. Okay,
there's an effort, don't get it wrong. But and and there,
and there is I mean you got to park the
boat ride just like parmerlud. He knows what tide where,
which which bridge to fish and what tide and all that,
there's a lot more to it. I think that's the key.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I think that's the key to really you know, the
devil's into details, right, figuring out what what wind? You know,
I'm guessing and I don't bridge fish a bunch, but
I imagine a guy like Palmer Lute, and you know,
the best of the best at bridge fishing, probably he
would probably tell you. I always say that passes, like

(58:32):
along the south shore of Tampa Bay, there's a bunch
of passes right well, one pass is an incoming tide
pass and another pass it might only be forty yards away,
is an outgoing tide. Like they're opposites for some reason. Yeah,
you know that tip. For whatever reason, this pass goes
off on the incoming and that one goes off on
the outgoing. Why it's that way, I have no idea,

(58:53):
but that's just how it is. I would imagine. I
would imagine the bridges are the same. Some bridges are
probably better on an incoming and some are probably better
on and out going. I would just think that's just
how it works.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I mean, right on this wind or that crazy as
it changes over time too, that a storm comes through
and changes that pass.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Topography. Yeah, the topography changes and yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Boy, did you hit that right, Dylan, Lombo passes loaded
with fanned it's loaded up. It's when you get on
the east side of the bridge. There's a hump on
that east side when you're coming in and a new pass,
uh not big pass, new pass is stilled in when
you're going out through the draw. Good luck. I mean

(59:37):
it's really shallowed up.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
They're supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
You're right about that.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
They're supposed to be starting the dredge and John's Pass
here in the next week or so, and they the
John's Pass dog leg. It can on our bottom machines
get a shallows about three and a half foot hollow
tied yeah, on the dog leg, and then in the
main in the main channel. Wow, now our our bottom
machines are probabrobably four foot underwater. So it's still pretty

(01:00:02):
deep for most boats. But now they're going to be
making it anywhere from eleven to thirteen foot deep all
the way through, and they're going to dig it out
like it's supposed to be more of a straight channel.
So we're gonna have some really deep water flow restored
to John's Pass and it'll be really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
That's really gonna you watch what that'll do for the
estuary inside of John's Pass.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, restore you when you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Get that flow picked up, it's really gonna help that.
I think myself personally that that's changed, you know, And
I know, Scott, you know the area I've seen justin
fishing over there, the area inside of Bunches Pass, that
whole area which if you come in come under the
Bunches Pass bridge, and what do you have right there?
You have Tarpankey, which was a really great red fishery,

(01:00:49):
I mean ridiculous red fishery for years, and that has
slowly changed a little bit. There's several of us that
think that big sand congregation out in front of Bunch's
Pass out are they?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah, that that's called the Egmont Borrow area, and that's
where a majority of the Southern Beach or Nourishment Project's
hand is going to come from.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Wow, So you're gonna take all that stand out there,
not all of it, but yeah, but that's gonna but
we've lost a lot of grass and habitat in there, Scott,
and I believe that's that all has to do with
a lot of that water flow that was coming past.
Because now it's it's a lot of it's closed up.
It's just not the past that it used to be.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
You used to have that cut that went all the
way to the south. Yeah, I know exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, we used to cut that one on a bad wind.
We used to cut through there in the in the dark.
You had plenty of water. You could run through there
on the right tide and and hug the shoreline all
the way down to Potter's Pier there. Now you've got
to go all the way out and around.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
The way around.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah. Yeah, so I think that's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Justin's all the way up there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Listen, Justin Moore is a sneaky cat. Your son is
a sneaky cat. Dude. I come rolling into a spot
here a couple of weeks ago, and I'm like, I
look at my man, Josh Johnson's with me. I look
at my mate, and I go, who in the heck
is that? I mean, his first thing in the morning.
I rolled back in there trying to be sneaky, and
all of a sudden my phone rings and it's Justin.

(01:02:11):
He's like, hey, dude, is that you. I'm like, oh,
that's who that is.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Had customers up there. He's got some guys that you
got to live.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Up there to listen. I was just I was just
I was just impressed because he listened. He called me
up and he goes, yeah, there's a couple hundred red
fish right over here. Just go over there. We've done
already caught him. I'm like, dude, it's like eight o'clock
in the morning, what do you mean you already caught him.
He had already been in there, caught a pile of
redfish and was like, yeah, I chummed him up really good.
They're still there. Just slide in there and catch him.

(01:02:40):
So what a great fisherman. Your son is a great
fish Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Same thing him and the same thing they've already caught
before we even get out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah. Your your your son is a heck of a fisherman. Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
He's a good dude too.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Yesterday, Oh I know, dude on the beach. Dude, it
was darping on the beach.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
It was eight o'clock in the morning the morning. I
ran into him and he said, yeah, I ran a
little north and caught some tarpain and then came here
and caught the red fish. Like it's eight am, for
God's sakes, justin stay in bed, fool.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
He's looking for those I guess they. I guess they
came by. They were macro fishing, and he's got eyes
and he caught a couple of fish. I don't know
how many out of a school of fish. Okay, they
were going south.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Attention anyway, complete cycleod.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Fish and everybody. Hey, really if you artificial fish get
in those rivers, well the fish really they made an
early move this year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I was just about to ask, isn't that really early,
because even I heard two weeks ago being caught in
fishes really thick?

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Yeah they ah, yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
They really did early.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
They cooled down early and September was kind of chilly
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
They know it. They know what.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
You know, there's fishing up there. When Mahoney's not even
saying anything. You notice, you're right, you know, you know,
I haven't even heard from him. You know, you know something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
He's in deer hunting mode. That's why that's why you're
sitting in the trees.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Well, actually he's sleeping because he was fishing. He was
hunting all night.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Yeah, well it is in the full moon yet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Scot that's my spotlight. Have a great weekend, my friend.
Great to hear voice too. All right, buddy, you too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Good fishing everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Thanks, great call, great call. Love that guy, and we
got our O. C. C. Roadhouse guest Here Tuesday October
twenty eighth, seven and nine pm. The Mad Snooker Dave
Palmerloo is going to join us. And now he joins
us right here on nine seventy w f l A.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
What's up out in the world. You can't I can't.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
Follow the godfather of the charter Captain's got more.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Listen, listen. One of my very favorite episodes of all
time that I ever got to do. I always wanted
to say that I fished with the guy who wrote
the book, and I did. I got to I did
a show with the guy who wrote That's how I
opened that show. I didn't even have him on camera.
I just had me in the book, like I'm fishing

(01:05:16):
with the guy who wrote the book on catching snooks.
He is the you know what, you know what's you
know what's really impressive. And I said this about Richard Seward,
and I say it about Scott Moore too. He's one
of the greatest fishermen that's ever fished the West coast

(01:05:36):
of Florida, for sure. And he's a better human being
than he is a fisherman. And that's that's saying something
Richard Seward the same way. You know, I don't throw
that out lightly. Scott Moore is a really great human being.
What he's what he's done on the West Coast for fishing,
and then what he's given back to the fishery in
his efforts with Cca, all the stuff he's doing all

(01:05:58):
the time with teaching people and helping people, really impressive
human being, really impressive.

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
Abso you know, I'm just trying to get better with
all that stuff myself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Aren't we aren't we?

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
All?

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:06:15):
I let a I let a woman mess my head
up for a few years after being with a freighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
So hey, listen, listen night that I was going to
say that kid, yeah, yeah, speaking of screwing people up,
that poor kid is messed up. Dude. You messed a
kid up last night catching him big snook. He'll never
be able to fish with another charter cap. And thanks
a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
That kid caught like seventy snook and he was freaking out.
He was like, I.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
Can't, I can't calm down. I'm freaking this is epic.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
We just they caught like seventy probably just himself and
the other guy's caught like fifteen inach but that was
over Hunters night. But it was just crazy and that's awesome.
But it was there was trout, every everything that moved
on that outgoing tide. All you had to do is
split a shrimp on the outgoing tide. I just don't, don't.

(01:07:07):
It was cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
It was cheating.

Speaker 8 (01:07:11):
Well, when you drink the shrimp on an outgoing tide
in front of the school of two hundred, it's it's
not it doesn't take long, right, right, that's cheating.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
The right spot, you guys, the right guy. Captain Dave
Palmerlou gonna join us o CC roadhouse Tuesday, October twenty eight,
seven to nine pm, and David is giving away a
four hour trip to fish with him as well. So
you don't want to miss it. You need to be
at that one. It's going to be a good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
One, gonna be awesome.

Speaker 8 (01:07:37):
I was gonna I was gonna make sure Dylan and
Mike Anderson got it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
We're coming. You got us. But We're coming, We're coming.

Speaker 8 (01:07:46):
I gotta take you guys out. But man, this is
such a good show and you guys just knock it
out of the house every weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
We appreciate your brother. Lord. I know I'm up against
the clock here. I got to let you go, but
we uh, we appreciate you. We're going to see you Tuesday,
October two, twenty eight, seven to nine pm. Can't wait
to see you, buddy, been too long, all right, partner,
He is a great one right there, just world class people.
Got one more segment here, wrapping things up the Barto
Ford Real Animals Radio Show. We'll be back, welcome back.

(01:08:15):
Wrapping things up here this morning, the Barto Ford Real
Animals Radio Show. Big thanks to Derek Debo's for making
this show possible, engineer, producer extraordinary, making it sound good. Yeah.
I want to put another shout out to South Seas
Island Resort. They're probably hosting a boater's anglers, veterans and
first responders special event called Real Heroes Weekend. It's happening

(01:08:38):
Friday through Sunday, November seventh through the ninth, just a
big event. You can come by boat. They've got deals
for dockage. They've got deals on hotel rooms, they've got
deals on food, they've got games and stuff going on
for I mean, it's really that I was really impressed

(01:08:59):
on The marketing team called me and told me what
they were doing again. You know, they got beat up
pretty bad from the storm, So a lot of this
stuff is kind of reopening stuff, kind of let everybody
know that they're there and healthy and doing well again.
Timbers Resorts is the big owner of that resort, and
they have dumped a pile of money into renovating and

(01:09:21):
they've got a water park coming that's going to be
absolutely amazing right there on the property. So nic it's
kind of a silly place. So again, Real Heroes Weekend.
Southseas dot Com is the website's right down there at Captiva.
Just a beautiful place. They've got a group a tend
code ABW twenty five at Southseas dot Com. Just check

(01:09:43):
it out. I'm gonna be down there Friday night at
the at the welcome party, So come on out and
check us out. It's going to be a really really
cool time. Southseas does things right. They just do their
tarpin tournaments incredible, so lots of good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Weather weather, it's looking I'm real good here at the
end of the weekend, early start of the work week,
all the way till around midwork week. You got a
narrow weather window there two three days maybe backs out
of a little week front here at the end of
this weekend. Got a stronger front later work week. So
get out there and capitalize on that new moon and

(01:10:18):
that prefrontal bite. That water temperature is getting right, that
barometers should be moving. Things should be looking real good.
Your best days to fish looking like Monday, Tuesday, maybe
into Wednesday morning. So get out there and take advantage.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Weather update brought to you by our good friends at
Reese Windows and Doors. Visit rees windows dot com for
more information. Great people over there at Reese. Appreciate them
being a partner of the show. Thanks to all of
you who chimed in on the live feed, Thanks to
everybody who called the show this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah, and don't forget to check out tomorrow night seven
thirty pm. We'll be doing our live stream show giving
away fifteen hundred dollars in free trips every Sunday night
live on our Hubbard's Marina and Real Animal Facebook and
Hubbard's Marina YouTube, So tune in, subscribe and hopefully we'll
see you tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Yeah, be sure to check out the Teamhony Company Real
Animals Radio Show tomorrow morning. Captain Ben Marshall, Captain Jamie
Goodwin and Captain Jeff Hageman all in studio. Yeah, lots
of knowledge there on the inshore side. If you're looking
to drop some questions. That's a great crew in there tomorrow.
So the Team Mahony Company Real Animals Radio Show on
ninety five three WDA and AM six twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
And don't forget if you're too busy to go fishing,
you're just too darned busy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Bye golly, you are too dune busy. Everybody, have a
great Saturday, Tight Lines Route