Reel Animals Fishing Show Sunday 10-19-25

Reel Animals Fishing Show Sunday 10-19-25

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Ta Mahoney Company, Real Animals Radio show
presented by Contender Boats and Pro Marine.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Now Here to chart today's course.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Your hosts, Captain's Mike Anderson, Ben Marshall and the Legend
Mike Mahony.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Not so much this morning. Those other two Mikes have
left me just to uh chase deer around apparently. Uh
so it's Captain Ben Marshall in the studio this morning,
and uh, I just went down to the docks see
if I can find two smokes that wanted to be

(00:43):
on the radio. And I looked up and got Captain
Jeff Hageman and Captain Jamie Goodwin to come in here
this morning. I want to make sure your MIC's working. Jeffrey,
I'm here.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Come at them both. Uh, We've got a lot to
talk about it. It's gonna be interesting to get them
here this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
What I saw first thing? South wind, not like it's
been and it's going to clock to the west and
then from the north. A little bit of a chance
of rain this afternoon. I'll take it. But man, it's
been blowing. Seemed like for a couple of weeks. It's
just been blowing. You guys have been dealing with that.

(01:23):
We had a couple of nice days. Monday Tuesday issue.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
Right, it's been it's been blown for the last two years.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, get used to it.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
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ninety five. That's when I got married, So that's thirty. Yeah,

(02:17):
I'm a little bit older. I remember when Barry Johnson
helped me with Brunswick and Mercury with the top guys,
get my all seas flats boat. That's crazy boat. I
remember it being under the shed lou Waltz farm and
looking out the window and Jeffrey was on top of
it with hair down to his butt, yep, running up

(02:37):
and down the boat checking it out. So that goes
pretty far back. And then I also remember Jeffrey teaching
me the divide the net into three pieces net throwing
the triple load, and he left me in the yard
on lou Walt's farms and he felt like you were
tied up and it's hard. They can tell you how

(03:00):
to load it, they can't tell you what to do
after that with your arms and your body. But two
years following that I won the cast net contest at
the Florida Gouye Association at Frank started to show two
years in a row, and the third year they wouldn't
let me play yep, So I got pretty good at that.
The only thing about is you get wet, but you know,

(03:21):
throwing a twelve footer and one and done. Now you
don't get that wet so and.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Then and you don't pull your teeth out.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, no teeth. And it's all about that pinky on
the last hole to hold the back of the net.
And that's what worked really well with the golf balls
down the shoot. And then Jamie and I hooked up
because he started the Redfish Tour and his partner had
good finances, I remember, but didn't know how to tie

(03:49):
a clinch knot, and he'd bust off and go here.
And then then the rumor is Jamie and I were
partners in the Redfish Tour because I had the best coolers.
And then one thing both of these guys couldn't teach
me is how to fish all day in a tournament
with a Snickers bar in a mountain dew. That's true

(04:09):
pretty much. That's right up in one of those tournaments,
I think Venice. No, onen't Venice, it was Lafitte, because
we had to go all the way to a pipe
and stop at the pipe, and we gone up, got
up early all that stuff, and ran. And so when
the boat stopped, I grabbed a sandwich and a soda

(04:33):
or whatever, and Jamie goes fishing and turned around to
me and says, what are you doing. We're fishing for
fifty thousand dollars. What are you doing? There's no time
to eat. As I recall, I stood up with half
a sandwich hanging out of my mouth, made a cast
and that's the fish that we waited at the end
of the day. So how about that.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah, Louisiana's special place for special people.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Jamie and I uh stayed up all day. He did
his thing and I did my job. The cooler. Well
they we'll get to that. But I remember the first
time at Lafitte and we had his dad scout and
it said, uh team on fishing, team on the side,
been up all night. Didn't like each other very much.
We went out there. We couldn't find him out of

(05:21):
Venice and we came in and pulling the boat out,
some guy says that's the just walks up, says, that's
the smallest Ta Mahoney boat I've ever seen, because all
he'd ever seen is Mike's contenders. And we turned around
and he's like, y'all team Ta Mahoney with Mike Mahoney.
We were like, yeah, well it was Ballet, the senior

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that owned Venice Marina. And he's like, did y'all catch
the fish today? And we're like, you're not allowed to
have any local info two weeks before the tournament all
that stuff, and we're like, m h h, well, no,
we didn't really find him. And the guy says, are
you guys even trying? Have you? He've been to Southwest Pass?
What are you guys doing? We're like, so we get

(06:06):
the truck and go to pull away, Jamie, where do
you think? We got to go tomorrow Southwest Pass? And
it was incredible. And we had we'd heard that the
kuon asses and that is a complimentary term. They're very
proud to be kuon Asses, and we'll cook for you
and it's wonderful. But we had heard that you don't

(06:29):
mess with these boys up there because they'll bury you
in the buyo and nobody will ever, you know. So
allegedly might even have been packing some heat on the
boat in a little worried. And we went to Southwest
Pass and there was a guy there doing what I've
wanted to do my whole guiding career. He had the
smallest playmate full of frozen shrimp. He had three guys

(06:53):
in the boat throwing jig heads with pieces of shrimp
on them. He had three redfish on at a time,
and he'd take the red fish off they were over
the slot, and well, one of them dies every time.
One of them dies every time. And uh so Jamie
and I are easing up, and he's not like Jamie, Jamie,

(07:14):
these coon asses, man, they'll bury us out here. He's
working and we're doing We're just slipping up. Jamie's slipping up. Finally,
this guy, this local guide, walks to the other end
of the boat facing us and says, yeah, he's like,
you boys looking for red fish. You're in the wrong place.
Come on up here by me. And we were like
two little kids with an anchor just following them. All

(07:36):
would get up there next to him. Y'all want some shrimp.
I got plenty of y'all need shrimp to catch these fish.
And that was It was probably eight thirty nine o'clock
by the time we moved up there next to him.
And I remember I was switching from a bait caster
to a spinning rod because my arms and wrists were tired.

(07:57):
And I asked Jamie at one point, like at ten o'clock,
how many we caught? You know, It's like I don't
remember the number. Twenty something. Yeah, we caught twenty something.
And then by noon it was like how many we
called it? Well, I don't know. I think we're up
to forties. You know, we stay till one or two o'clock.
How made you cat? We were I don't know you.
One would come off and you go, dang, start reeling

(08:18):
in another one to grab it. And it was phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
On our on our way home from that trip, we
had to stop and get fuel and.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Ben's over there, like digging into his back pocket. He says. Man,
He's like, I can't.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Get my wallet out of my back pocket.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
My hands hurt him.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Come get my wallet out of my back pocket. My
fingers wouldn't work. That's awesome. We got got many a
whole bunch of stories. We thought we were champions after
the first time up there. We learned Boo and bo
you know, and and Bo is hey dude, and Boo
is sweetheart darling. And we got lost. We thought we

(09:00):
were lost our first time going to Venice. We'd already
been to Lafeet and we got lost. There's like three
commercial fishermen with rubber boots on repairing a huge net
and they're like, all saw in this net. And we
didn't know. You can't get lost going to Venice because
there's one road going in and one road coming out.
But we'd gone so far and so Jamie pulled over

(09:22):
and I just straddled up behind those guys. I was like, hey,
boom boom. They just turned around and looked at me,
and I ran back to the truck and said let's go.
Jamie said, what do you do? I said, I just
called all those guys sweetheart. So we, Uh, there was
a lot of there was. We'll get to the uh
some of the other things. Uh, the lady that wouldn't

(09:44):
get out of the trucks, dollar sandwiches. It just goes
on and on. But uh, we did finish top ten
two years in a row. We went to Venice just
to keep that for the sponsors. And one thing about
Louisiana is the fish sure a pound or too bigger.
You know, you get two seven's here, you're in the

(10:04):
cash up there, they're eight and nine and sometimes ten. Yeah,
the big fat ones. We still hold the record before
pinching the tail for the largest, the heaviest ever waved.
That was before seven point eight nine was eight whatever
it was. That was shady Grady. You think that guy's

(10:28):
Titus Pville. That was Titusville. We were about done. It
was about an hour before the tournament was over, and
I was playing with that fish because we thought it
was too big. It came to the boat several times
and then made another run on. Jamie's like, it's too big,
it's too big. And about the third time I had
an extbody was well.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Maybe yeah, and we we put it on the table
in it it weighed and measured. But he's he's spread
because he was he wasn't an hour from being free.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Willie. Yeah, so he was pumped up. And when the
guy had to mash his tail down, he literally did
the whole like a male turkey, just like that fanned
it out. And when we got in line after that,
the guy behind me goes, you just got a gift. Yeah,
he says, you just got a gift. But we had
some A lot of people were like, oh, so you

(11:20):
want to be a tournament fisherman man, How glorious is that?
And I'm like, eh, I don't know. Getting the big
check and the flashcubes going off on the podium, that's
pretty good, But the rest of it's a lot of
work in cheap o tails and long days. The well weeks.
So one year I figured out Jamie and I spent
nine weeks away from home. That's for happily married men.

(11:45):
That's a long time to be away from home with
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(12:07):
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eight eight five four six four six twenty we'll be back.
Good morning. Captain Ben Marshall in the studio this morning
without my comrades. They are chasing the deers and we
take turns chasing the deers. So Captain Ben Marshall in
the studio this morning with Captain Jeff Hageman and Captain

(12:31):
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you guys catching fish. I mean it's been windy and blowing.
What are you doing down there? You Jamie, you're still
out of O'Neill's and Jeffrey I saw you trailern so
liull of both.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
I'm fishing Turbin springs and and down Saint Pete.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
So tarp and spring has been pretty good.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
It has been. I've been favoring Saint Pete. I mean
everything right now, this is my favorite time.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
You're to fish.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It's always fallen spring.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
I mean, everything's coming together, everything's eating, the big red
fish schools are coming in and.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, you know, going back to my roots with Rick
Gross that calls in. When I lived down in Brayton,
we just loved October and November because we had the
Manatee River and the fish gang up there. And a
Monday or two ago because we couldn't do it on
a Friday. We had the HCC tournament out of Hula
Bay and the guy that you put me with took

(14:15):
me all the way to Aliphi. And I don't spend
I spent a lot of time in the palm. I
haven't spent a lot of time in the Aliphi. There's
lots of stuff there. I mean there was a lot.
We got abused because we were fishing structure. You guys
can figure out what that is in the Alifi River.
But some horses, lots of lots, you know, of males.

(14:39):
Mahony likes to argue they're not males, but let's just say,
you know, twenty one twenty two inch fish, lots of those. Yep.
Mahoney gets all weirded out about the sex change thing,
and I think it's something inherent in personality. But yeah,
we all fish the Redfish Store. We even go back

(15:00):
further than that. And I tried to explain to people
they just don't know. I became I became a guy,
and then I talked to you guys about it because
in my group of friends, uh I, we figured out
more than the general public. We caught a lot of fish,
and we caught a lot of snooke. Rick Ross and
I caught a lot of snoke before there was a

(15:20):
slot and the limit was six way back when, so
we spanked them pretty good. We didn't know there was
any problem with you know, conservation and all that stuff.
But uh then, uh, you know, starting out, I started
out fishing Bahea Beach, which is now in it little
harder her and it's not Ruskin anymore. It's south Shore.

(15:42):
It's all weird stuff. But then we all kind of
converged on Maximo and you know that whole area of
their o'neils and everything, and it was easy. I mean,
I just gotta tell guys, it was easy. All I
did was go out on those flats with bait or
artificial between tarpa and key jackass, cow and calf. I

(16:04):
dreft those flats for the first three or four hours
of my charter and catch a hunter trout. I mean
every time. If you were using whities, it was a
pain because you constantly you just do nothing but taking
fish off and baiting hooks. I would go a lot
with an equalizer or a float and a jig and
teach people how to do that. Then it was a

(16:24):
lot easier. But then as we all did and everybody
watched Jeffrey, we waited for the tide to get high
enough to converge on tarpakey, and we always be on
Jeffrey because he'd go too early. It's like, where's Jeffrey.
Everybody followed Jeffrey. But it was but it was just
a good time. If you knew the other guides in

(16:45):
there and played right, you wanted to box them in.
You actually wanted a boat next to you so they
wouldn't go around you. You wanted your buddies there to
help chum and keep the fish there. And it was
such a great fishery. Mike's tried to captain. Mike's try
to tell me why it's not there anymore, whether it's

(17:05):
the groceries or the pressure or both. But it was
fairly easy. It was rare, you know. Sometimes they'd go
around to the snag, or they'd go around on the
back side. And I remember Jeffrey teaching me what you
could do with a golf ball chunk of ladyfish. Because
we pull up there and we're all trying to throw

(17:25):
our white bait, and Jeffrey would slingshot a golf ball
size piece of fresh ladyfish and hook up another. Yes,
so it was it was just easier. There was more
fish and less pressure. We all thought there was, you know,
the the Dave Marquette's was already writing articles that there

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was a guide under every mangrove tree and all that
way back then. But there was plenty to go around.
Had a lot of Europeans when I started. They came
through Marquette or I don't remember who they all came through,
but I tell people I used to have. They tell
me they were from Canada for sure. A you have
to ask them if they swim, because people from Canada

(18:12):
don't swim, and it's very important when you're a captain
to know whether or not they swim. So are you
guys taking cold calls, charters or you I know you
concentrate mostly on repeat customers at this late.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Now, they we got room for cold calls right now.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So we want to make sure you give out your
information on how they get in touch with you.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Go ahead, yeah, go Florida Fishing dot com. That's how
the best way to get a hold of me, my
rates and everything about certain months of what we're fishing
for is on there just look me up. You can
email me or text. That's the best way.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
And Realadventures dot com it is the easiest way to
get hold of me. It's got all my information my
cell phone.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Jeffrey and I go back a little bit further. I
can remember on a low tide at Anoak being in
his bass boat and I think there was loose pieces
of plywood on the floor. So we came a long
way from that. And then when we had the show,
the bent On Fishing Show, and we had Wayne Schoff

(19:22):
and your dad and went over to Stewart the one time,
and that was one of the greatest lines I ever
heard from your dad. We were sitting in the back seat,
I think we were riding home and in the suburban,
and you said something to your dad about, hey, dad,
next Tuesday, let's go fly fishing for redt I don't

(19:43):
remember what it was, fly fishing for red fish next Tuesday?
Can you go? And your dad goes, yeah, yeah, I'm in.
He turns to me and says what days today? And
I was like, that's where I want to be. That's
the retirement I want to be where I don't know
what day. It is so pretty good stuff, very good stuff.
Give us a call this morning. We would like to

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hear from you. You can reach us at one eighty
eight five four six four six point twenty. Please give
us a call. Pick these guys brains. What's going on
out there? Captain Ben Marshall in the studio with Captain
Jeff Hagman and Captain Jamie Goodwin. We will be right
back after this. Welcome back Tim Mahony's Real Animals Radio

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on this morning, but let's check with the Captain Mike
Perry down at Big pine Key and get a report.

Speaker 9 (21:14):
Mike, Hey, Ben, how you guys doing today?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Morning?

Speaker 9 (21:18):
Well, great, great to hear you. With a couple of
fishy cats in there, as Mike Anderson would call them
fishy cats. The fishing down in the Keys has been fantastic.
I was telling him yesterday, I can't remember a time
when the snapper fishing has been better. All brands are
coming overside of the contender. The mutton fishing has been

(21:40):
extremely well. We got another seven yesterday, seven keepers. Smallest
one weight in at nine and a half pounds and
the biggest one looks fifteen and a half. Nice we
got yeah, thank you. Sale fishing is really ramping up
right now. We raised about seven yesterday and landed four,

(22:03):
so we had a pretty good day. And battling the
wind on the Atlantic side is is really what we're
doing right now.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I wonder why they call it landed because there's really
no land involved. I mean, but I catch your.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
Drift, bringing them, bringing them alongside.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Alongside the boat, tagging our palm beach release, that's the
leader all that stuff.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
Yeah, we uh, I really try not on the bill
on the sailfish and the occasional marlin I have to
tell the people when we get them outside the boat
how to if you want your face in the picture,
you better be able to lean over the side of
the boat, because that fish isn't coming inside this boat.
I've had people bring them in and then when I

(22:51):
first started, and one wiggle and you got a weapon
flipping around the back of your boat, and it's not good.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
So uh, we just.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
Take a lean over, take a picture, and off they go.
So no, but the fishing's been good. And I love
your stories about you and Rick Gross fishing the Manateee
River and the Green Bridge because you know that's where
I grew up that area. So a lot of good
snook fishing up that river this.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Time of the year. They're there right now, There's no
doubt about it.

Speaker 11 (23:23):
Oh and a lot of.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
People tell you the time we preached to it that
they're waiting for a cold snap. No, it's length of day.
The commercial fisherman will tell you that days get shorter
the smart fish head up the river. So tell people,
how did you get touch with you?

Speaker 9 (23:37):
Sure it's eight one three four three four eight zero
eight six Captain Michael forty seven gmail dot com or
just give big Mike Anderson to call at one eight
sixty six Game Fish. They'll send you our way, and
today's our last day for the next week. We're getting
out of here because little thing called Fantasy Fast is
going on start really ramping up this afternoon. So we're

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getting out of the keys for.

Speaker 11 (24:02):
A week or so.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 9 (24:06):
All right, guys, you guys, have a great, great day.
God bless and tight lines. Keep catching them up, all right?

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Speaker 12 (24:56):
Hey, So we're going from a thirty two foot contender
with the trip four hundreds to a ten and a
half old town kayak.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, and Hamburger's and not dogs.

Speaker 12 (25:09):
That's right. So yesterday at my dosso outing at Donald
and whoever shows up, and we had a few people
and fishing in the Palm Harbor area and I catch
a nice slam. So that was very exciting. I went
back to old school.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I've been using.

Speaker 12 (25:28):
Gambler soft plastics lately, but I still found a bag
of twelve father and New Penny, the two point seventy five.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Tailor.

Speaker 12 (25:40):
Yeah, so it's like, you know what, I'm going to
go to old school, that's all I'm gonna use. I
brought two rods of me yesterday and only used one
the entire day on that twelve fath and New Penny
and caught three snook, redfish, trout, ladyfish and you know,
all with and pretty much under a mile from the

(26:03):
ramp that I launched from fishing around those islands and stuff.
You know, boats are passing me, everybody's passing me. It's
like a fish are here. So it was exciting, great day,
great day on the water. I'll tell you the perfect weather.
It really was absolutely gorgeous yesterday. I had a slight breeze.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's gonna be nice today, but there's some stuff coming
if it doesn't weighing out before it gets here.

Speaker 11 (26:33):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 12 (26:36):
I picked the days when we go out. I always checked,
you know, I swear by soliners, you know, and the tides,
and I knew it was gonna be good to everybody
caught fish yesterday, so I was very happy for all
my peeps out there. And they're kayaks.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's awesome.

Speaker 11 (26:53):
It was so much fun.

Speaker 12 (26:55):
You guys, take care of you guys. Have you have
a legends in there. I see you on the show,
you know, the Fishing Show, and you know, Jamie, I've
you've been in studio before talking, you know, with Anderson
and stuff, and you know, it's like it's like you know,
picking you guys brains. But it's just great to hear

(27:17):
the stories. And that's what I love about, you know,
these fishing conversations. And I'll be at the occ meme.
Liz will be there on the twenty eight, so looking
forward to that. It's always a great time.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
All right, thanks for call. Donald.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Always great good to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
You know, he mentioned new Penny and people ask me
about our years on the Red Fish tour. One lwer
we would start out with all the time was a
power bait. Jerkshad New Penny. One of us was always throwing.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
That made for jetties. You remember that, yeah, in Jacksonville.
Remember that redfish that I well.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I also remember on tournament days somewhere, I think it
was down by Texico Docs or something. This thing swims by.
It's like a ten year old child, but it was
red with a spot on its tail. And you flipped
your your spinner bait in front of it, and we
had to fight that thing. Back then, we didn't have

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phones with cameras and stuff. But do you remember how
big that His mouth looked like a bucket and he
just went over and just chomped that bait like crazy.
I can tell a story on Jeffrey too. Back in
the day, Jeffrey didn't know fish eight spoons, and I
talked to him into trying to spoon, and boy, when
you got to cover some ground, that gold spoon will

(28:39):
do it.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
On the tour, I think we threw two colors. We
threw new Penny and we threw white.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yep, ghost or white or yeah. One thing that well
learned that from a little bit from back in the
days when I talk about when we drift for trout
and I and I I had with Barry Johnson and
bass fishing around Bill Dance and for years he sold
this color monitor machine where you'd put it this probe

(29:09):
down in the water and it would tell you what
the best color was visible that day. There was a
lot of science to that, but taking the science out
of it and not knowing everywhere you go what match
the hatch was. Throw different colors. Everybody on the boat
throw a different color. Then they'd start eating one color.
The problem with Jamie is he had to know exactly
why they were eating that color. And I turned around,

(29:31):
I don't know why. I just know that they are
and so. But we traveled all around up there to
some weird places. I just remember us finding a tackle
store for those gold spinner blades you could put on
a jig head, and we bought all he had somewhere
in the Bayou. And then the best story with Jamie was, boy,

(29:51):
I'd find I'd find Mary's shrimp and crawfish shack, half
of it fallen in the water, with a bunch of
old beat up trucks, maybe a deputy sheriff's car there
or fire department truck. I go, let's let's eat there.
Jamie going there, and I'd look on the chalkboard and say,
you know, crayfish, a to fa and gumbo. I'm like,

(30:12):
all right, I'm done, Jamie, b I'll have a ribi
and a baked potato. And one time the lady says, boom,
nobody comes here and orders a steak. I'll see if
he'll fall one out. But Jamie was meeting potatoes anywhere
we went still is yep. We had. We had some
pretty good times. The one, the one of the best

(30:35):
stories is, you know, Jamie was I guess you were
in your thirties and I was in my forties early thirties,
and we would rig rogs. We'd all stay at cheap
motels wherever we were because you're trying to cut cost.
And then we would gang up all the folks in
the tournament, just kind of whether you knew him or not,
it was just a courtesy. We'd watch each other's boats. So,

(30:56):
I mean, you had a lot of stuff in your boat,
whether the hatch is locked or not. Everybody would spend
the night before rigging rods and getting ready for the
next day. And Jamie comes in this cheap motel room
we're in and goes, there's a lady in my truck
and she won't get out. What just tell her to
get out? Well I did. She won't get out, and

(31:17):
I don't know exactly what her mental state was, whether
it was alcohol, drugs, or just deranged. Yeah, it was weird,
but I had a few years on Jamie, and I
just walked over to the lady in the truck. The
door was opening the truck, and I said, you got
two choices the way I see it, the easy way
or the hard way, So take your pick. So we

(31:39):
convinced her out of the truck, and she pointed across
I remember, like yesterday, she pointed across a field and said,
see that light over there, You boys, just give me
a ride over that light. And I'm right, that's we're
going to a light and to buy you to drop
off a drunk woman that we just met. And so
she walked around and talked to us, but at least
she got out of the truck. I think we closed
the doors and locked the truck, and so we're in

(31:59):
and out. We're trying to ignore, and we got way
down in the bayou where we were fishing the next day, probably,
I mean twenty or thirty miles from where we launched.
And of course I go into the cooler because I
needed a sandwich. They weren't there. She stole our sandwiches.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
She stole ours. This was the craziest story. And we
came out of the hotel room and to just make
it short, but she was in the truck because I
had a door open because we were getting tackle out.
Then we figured out that she was stealing all the beverages,

(32:40):
all the food, and she was stealing everything out of
the boat. And yeah, it was bizarre for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Now one of those trips was our fault, and that
was Venice. One of the first day, second day, I
don't know it was in the first tournament, but one
of the other tournaments. We were a big time professional tournament.
I mean we had shirts that matched in hats and
our name on the side of the boat, and we
were sponsored baby. We ran like thirty miles to the

(33:10):
Southwest Channel and realized we didn't bring a tackle box. Yeah, well,
we were piecing together pieces of plastic that were discarded
at the bottom of the boat and trying to make
something that looked like a jig. But we'd you know,
it was a couple hour run past all those commercial
boats and then there was I don't remember what they

(33:32):
call the crew boats. People just stacked on them. And
then somehow or another, like Asian people would come there
and had some kind of exemption to fish and catch
anything that swam. There were weird Asian net boats and stuff.
But I still have a salmon net that we stopped

(33:55):
at a jet spray on the way out of Venice
one time and washed the boat and somebody had left
behind salmon net. I've still got that thing. It's like
a gray fray bill that's four foot in diameter dip net.
I'm not real sure what all you dip with that.
But so, what have you guys been catching out there?
What's what's happening right now? I heard kingfish are coming,
the red fish, big time redfish.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's been good.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
It's been a pretty good about a month and a
half so far. It's uh, the schools are popping around
the movie big fish, Yeah, big fish, big fish, slot fish,
small fish are kind of all mixed up. But for
the most part, they're moving a lot, you know that.

(34:38):
I mean they're they're in one spot one day and
you better look start looking where they went to.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Especially King Tide, we had a couple of weeks, yeah,
King Tide, they were really they were really moving around
a lot of fish for in now to one spot
and in a day and gone the next and not
there for another week.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
You know what I've noticed with the younger guides that
every one of these tournaments I do two or three
a year where they put me in a boat after
help Mike load all the boats. And I've seen both
of you guys on those tournaments stuff that going with
some different guys. I don't remember everybody beating the bushes
as hard as they do, especially on a high tide.
It's just about beating the bushes. And if your bait

(35:17):
is not in the shade, they're not gonna come out
and get it. I mean, this guy, you've got to
keep cast until you're up there in the shade or
they just not coming out to get it, you know.
And going way back thirty years, we didn't chum like
you do now, and well we didn't. We didn't know
the wolf of ball bat thing we throw onesies, tuesies

(35:38):
and chump. I was thinking about a story with Jeffrey.
I think we were fishing the CCA tournament and it
rained all day and we had Rick from USF Vice President.
We were in his boat. It rained and flooded, and
somewhere north of Bishop's Harbor we were waiting and I

(35:59):
had never seen fireline, nobody had except Jeffrey, and we
were waiting and you threw a lure over a you know,
a piece of drift wood, and a snook hit it,
and I was like, he's gonna cut your line. He
goes and you said, no, watch this first time I'd
ever seen fireline, and you just pulled him over the
top of the log, and that was that was braid.

(36:20):
I had a line of professional the same thing you
had professional line mining machine. And if I had a
big day, I used a triple fish or andy on
my redfish, rods, tarp and key kind of stuff. And
if you had a you know, fifteen twenty thirty fish day,
unless you had time to drag all those lines, you

(36:40):
had to respool them. I mean, they just come off
and tangle. So I went through line. I bought bulk spools,
and then there was a silver thread. If that wasn't
for your charter outfits, that was for your personal outfits.
You'd have silver thread and you go back and fish
with that stuff. After fishing with braid. It's like fishing
with a rubber band. Oh yeah, it doesn't make it

(37:02):
doesn't make any sense at all. That was That was
the old days. And you guys favor. So what's y'all's
choice on ten or fourteen? I mean that was the
big choice. You know, fourteen and that it doesn't break
at fourteen, it breaks closer to twenty, and ten doesn't
break it ten it breaks closer to thirteen or fourteen.
But I always kind of went for the distance instead

(37:25):
of the strength. I just wanted to get it in
their face and hook them up, and then if I
lose them, I'll lose them.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
I fish usually I carry my boat.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
I carried mostly ten pound outfits unless I'm fishing structure,
and I'll have three or four you know that fifteen
pound class little heavier braid, little heavy ride, a little
bigger real with a little more drag.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
So I carried two different when I'm in for fishing outfits.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, we talked earlier about tarpai key. What was greater
that none of those fish were ever kept, so it
was a sustainable fishery if you didn't beat them up.
And they're a hearty fish. But you mentioned earlier Jamie
did makes me happy. I'm playing around the Palm River
and I'm most when I'm by myself or with buddies.
I'm fishing artificial. It's good to see the sixteen to

(38:11):
twenty it's right there, very good because that's the It
makes me happy because I go there. Okay, last year.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Was a lot of smaller fish, a lot of nineteen
to twenty one inch fish, and it shows this year
because they're growing up. But last year was a phenomenal
year on smaller fish, which was good to see. And
we're seeing a lot this year too.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
What about snoop in the whole slot and trying to
get a slot fish and.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
The snook fishing is not in the positive it's and
I think a lot of her fishing. Me and Jamie
were talking about this maybe a week or two ago.
I think a lot of her fish are just going
off they're just going off shore and they're staying there.
They're living a better life. You know, we have so
many dolphins now that you know, if you think about.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
It, what is.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Snook.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
Snook don't like to be harassed and they don't like
to be messed with. What does a dolphin do he's
up there around the bridges and you know he's in
shallow water. Well, if a snook's living in deeper water,
well a dolphin can't. He's got to breathe there. So
it makes sense that, you know, we have a lot

(39:24):
of dolphins nowadays and they're pushing them off shore and
they're just making a better living out there and not
being harassed.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
You talk to the divers that dive, you know, the
injore official reefs and recks, and they're just there's thousands
of them.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Like well, my buddy Charlie McCormick, which y'all may have
run across over up since high school. He's been running
for twenty five thirty years. Marco River Marina. It's called
Red Rose now, I think, but it's the big big
marina down there. Those guys for years fish for snook offshore. Yeah,
they'd go wherever the structure of the reef was they

(39:58):
fish the sand around and that's where they caught the snook.
Many moons ago. At daylight, I was it was kind
of foggy, was idling out to the Portmanateeue artificial reef.
I fished that area a lot anyway, and some guys
were picking, you know, cleaning up the boat and pulling anchor,

(40:19):
and I was like, hey, what y'all, what y'all fish
for mango snapper or whatever. They're like snook. It was winter,
and that's one of the things I remember the most
about it. It was cold, and they go people just
don't know the snooker laying here on the bottom around
these reefs. They got thermaclines. They can find warm water,
and like you said, they're not being harassed now. Where

(40:40):
I was a week ago in the mouth of the river,
there's still fish running up the river or their residents.
You know, they could just be residents. And there was
really strong water flow and they were around several of
the bridges and piers and docks. And those are lazy
fish like we used to target with red fish. They're
just hanging out there and eating as the food goes by,

(41:01):
you know.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
Those fish grew up there, and then when the fish
spawn and they grow up offshore, they don't know anybody,
they don't know to come in shore. So we usually
those fish that are born and raised where they're at,
that's where they're going to stay because they just don't

(41:23):
know any better.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, that's I believe that's true with grouper downtown. They
don't know to go offshore. They've got forty five feet
of water and they're not being harassed. It's a happy life.
I think. I don't think those you know, I know,
we have Dilan Hubbard calls in and he really knows
how the habits of how a lot of the group
were in. Different fish move in and out, and of

(41:45):
course we lost the best fishing troller in the bay,
a dvance tice this year, and he'd figured out but
there were certain months out of the year. And I
talked to one guy at the ramp at maximum one time,
I had a beautiful group where and he said he
was watching us fish on tarpa and key all day
and he was trolling that.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Uh, that's that's nice.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, he was trolling right there. And he said, and
that one bridge that they've replaced now that people would
go by there and dump their washers and dryers and
stuff off that he said he dived that you'd see
them all over. So and the divers don't lie when
they see all these snook around the structure and deep water.
So that's one of that's one of the things too. Well.

(42:31):
Another thing too, when you build these bridges, especially with bumpers,
and you talk about the snook and the porpoises, dolphins, whatever,
they can't get inside those bumpers. So I think a
lot of those snook just lived their lives right inside
those bumpers, coming out for a bite to eat, or
it's all it's all washing through there anyway. The other thing,

(42:52):
and I read in uh in Tide magazine and one
of the guys down in h in ten Thousand Islands
talking about the amount of fiddler crabs that were in
the bellies of snook, and one of these one of
the things that I know is happening because if you
just listen to it when the water's really high, listen
to those smacks up in there. And I don't think

(43:14):
redfish smack quite like a snook does. There's candy on
the roots of those mangroves and nothing can get to them.
They love it, those high water tides they get up there.
I guess they eat those mangrove crabs too, but I
know they eat fiddler crabs, and I would never really
thought of a snook going after a fiddler crab. Tim Mahoney,

(43:35):
Real Animals Radio here on ninety five point three WDAE.
We're up against a break, but we'd like to hear
from you this morning one eight eight eight five four
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Goodwin in the studio this morning. Give us a call.
We'd like to hear from you. We'll be back after this. Oh,
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Give them a call. Got a couple of calls here,
Captain Man Marshall in the studio this morning with Captain
Jeff Hagerman and Captain Jamie Goodwin. I've known them for
a minute. I better check in with the boss on

(44:42):
the road here this morning. Then we're gonna go to
Jim Fogel. Capt Mike You.

Speaker 11 (44:46):
There, I am my friend. How are you?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I'm in good company.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
Good morning there you are.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
Good morning's boys.

Speaker 11 (44:57):
Well, you know, just driving up here to Georgia and
listening to you know, the three of you talk fishing,
three of my dearest friends on the planet, just got
me thinking about some cool stuff. You know. This is
my finishing up my twenty fifth year in the guide business,
and I, you know, have been so blessed to do

(45:19):
so many incredible things in fishing, and it really all started.
A lot of it started with the three of you guys,
Jeff and Jamie taking me under their wing and teaching
me how to be a pro on the water. You know,
when I was super, super green when I first got
in the industry. You know then, obviously you and I
have been tight for years, and I have a lot

(45:41):
of stories from our days down at both the Graham
with Jeff and Jamie. I'm not sure what the statute
of limitations is, so I'm not going to share those stories,
but you know, we just it just the show. This
show has been on Sunday mornings here on DVE for
twenty three years, and just to be on the road
listening you guys tell stories and spread so much knowledge

(46:04):
just as an awesome experience this more so, I just
had to call in and thank you guys for covering
it this morning and doing a great job and being
great friends and great pros. I mean, there's so many
guys on the water today that could learn something from
you know, all three of you, but Jeff and Jamie,
you guys just do it at a high level. And
I just appreciate your friendship and mentorship over the years.

(46:26):
And you know, it's great to have you guys on
the show.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
And on By the way, I'm on my way to
deer hunting.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
You're not, Yeah, you got to bring us back some
snacksticks or something.

Speaker 11 (46:38):
I could I could do that for you, buddy. I'll
do what I can. I'll stop at carol Sausage and
see what I can drum up.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I don't think they have any shortage of wild game
meet I'm pretty stopped.

Speaker 11 (46:51):
I'll check. I'll check today when I go through there
and see what Carol Sausage has and find some goodies
for you guys.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I got for you.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, Jamie's showing me pictures of critters from Wyoming and stuff.

Speaker 11 (47:02):
So yeah, I'm not gonna feel bad about leaving this
morning to go to Georgia to hunt with those two
in the room. You know, mister all over the country
shooting giant gears and antelopes and you know mister Idaho there.
I'm not gonna feel bad about that, So it's all good.
I just wanted to say, hey, you know what else?

(47:22):
And I got in here about seven point thirty, so
I don't know if you guys covered it. You've been
talking about the red fish bite. It's been so strong,
and it really has. I ran my trip the other
day and kind of pushed my nose off shore a
little bit. It was a little windy. I did see
a huge kingfish come by the boat, probably a forty pounder.
Some of the guys I talked to have been catching

(47:43):
some kingfish. They were out a little bit deeper than
I wanted to go on my bay boat, but I
came back in shore and got on a ridiculous trout bite.
I was going to just kind of hit this one spot,
catch a couple of trout, and then go red fishing.
And my trout bite was so good I couldn't leave
the trout bite. We were catching twenty plus inch trout
one after another, nice and you know, just like the redfish.

(48:06):
It's just so good to see those big yellow mouths
come up, you know, to the surface. I just I
couldn't leave it. We probably caught probably caught twenty five
or thirty trout total, and probably fifteen sixteen seventeen of
them were twenty plus inches.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
That's my face.

Speaker 11 (48:22):
Really really good to see. Yeah, really good to see.
So it's a really healthy fishery. And again it's great
to have you guys in the studio and listen to
the great stories. Keep up the great work and I'll
see you guys probably later this week.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Good luck, all right, Mike, have a good time.

Speaker 11 (48:37):
Aye, boys, be good.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
That's how man the Boss is listening, I said Jason.
I hope we have time for our safe boating trip.
Thank you, sir, mister Captain Vogel.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
Hey down and good guys and guys, you've got some
good chaperones this.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Morn man, I do have chaperones.

Speaker 8 (48:58):
I think that's a good I think you need at
least two of them. Normal people only need one. But
you know you're not You're not the average person. Oh yeah,
that's a major thing. That's a major hook in there.
That's for sure. All right, guys, let's see. Let me
talk about a couple of things. Earlier this week's sector,

(49:20):
Saint Pete received a nine to one relay call from
a vessel they thought was taking on water. They thought
twelve nautical miles west of Port Ritchie about two am.
Did no description of the vessel and no let laud,
so anyway, they started. They sent a chopper out and

(49:42):
actually found the boat, found a guy sitting on top
of a twenty one foot century UH helicopter victored Pascoe
County Marine Unit in and they picked the guy up
without any medical problems, which is really a good thing.
He did not have towing insurance. She said he would
try to do something about it later. But if he'd

(50:04):
have had a radio, and if he and or epervan
or a personal locator beacon, he probably wouldn't have been
out there that long, and they wouldn't have to spend
as much time looking for him. So you guys that
are going to go offshore, you absolutely need something to
be able to get somebody in touch with you if

(50:25):
you're in trouble. Nine one one is great inclose, but
you've still got to talk to two or three people
before you can talk to the coast guard and get
somebody out there to help you. So please keep that
in mind. Remember those little VHF handhelds, and now I
saw one the other day for something like seventy five
bucks waterproof floating VHF marine radios, So get that on

(50:50):
your Christmas list if you don't have it already. Also
saw a video of down Sarasota a runaway boat. It
was a center console. He was running about fifty miles
an hour. The captain evidently had been thrown out of
the boat, broke some fingers somehow falling out of the boat,

(51:14):
but he had not gotten run over by the boat.
But it was running wild open and the sheriff deputies
were able to I'm sorry not sheriffable Sarasota Marine unit
was able to get up alongside it after they'd tried to,
you know, throw a rope in the prop and that

(51:34):
didn't work. So they got up alongside of it, and
one officer jumped into the runaway boat and was able
to bring it down. But that's a really dangerous, scary thing.
That's why you have those dead man switches.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Any boat, you know, less than twenty six feet has
to have them attached. And even if you've got a
larger boat and you've got a man switch on that boat,
you really ought to have it attached to you, especially
if you're by yourself. I mean you really ought to
have it all the time. But you're by yourself. I mean,
you know that can be the difference between life and death.

(52:14):
So go ahead and hook that thing up.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, we've even talked about you. And get those ankle
ones extensions and different things. It's you know, with the
clipping it on your belt, even in your hand too.
If you've got a cheater knob on your steering wheel,
they get tangled up, at least they do with me.
Oh yeah, but you can put them on. You can
get those ankle extensions. When I leave the boat, I
want the boat off. But I'll tell you what heck

(52:38):
of a cowboy that wrangles a boat at fifty miles
an hour. That's not I'm way too old for that.
I wouldn't even consider it.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Oh yeah, no, this guy, I mean, this guy was
pretty nimble, and I was impressed that when he jumped
over the boat driver, the officer driving the the marine
in it did a good job agetting right up there
on the side of the boat, fairly stable, and the
other guy jumped in and got it down right away.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I wouldn't have thought. I wouldn't have thought of the
rope trip for the prop. You got to keep a
runaway boat from hurting people, but that motor's toast. If
it's running fifty miles an hour and you're going to
stop it with a rope and the prop.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
That motors toast, it would have looked more like shots
fired for me.

Speaker 11 (53:26):
Well, that's ok.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
You know, whatever it takes to keep the public safe
from a runaway boat, I get that, But I wouldn't
have thought of the rope thing. But that's cool.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Yeah, A networks too, if they've got a net on board.
Some some of the officers and some of the boats
carry nets, and they try to throw a net in there,
but sometimes it needs one of them work.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
It's kind of like spike. It spikes for the water, right.

Speaker 8 (53:51):
Yeah, exactly, same sort of thing, same sort of thing.
And yeah it's bad if the engine dies, but it's
better and hurting somebody.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Absolute no, I agree.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
Good keep up the good word being put a coast
guard Ozari in St. Pete, Jim Fogel, be safe out there.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Thank you, Jim Fogel, as always in your safe boating trip.
This Sunday was brought to you by our good friends
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(54:28):
going to be right back after this and with the
A Team Dylan Hubbard. Welcome back. T. Mahoney, Real Animals Radio.
We've got a couple of guests in here this morning,
Captain Jeff Hageman and Captain Jamie Goodwin. I've got a
couple of calls. I've got to go to both of
them first. It's the A Team Dillard Hubbard calling in.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
What's going on? Guys, how are you this morning?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Good morning, Waite. I think I missed my chance. I
believe it's sugar bear.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Now, I was wondering if you were going to remember
or not. I was hoping you would forget.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Well, Dylan, you know, I'm almost one hundred years old
according to you, so it's hard to remember that stuff
all the time.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Man, don't you don't forget nothing to get like an elephant,
like an old elephant. Yeah, I got it. Well, the
thirty nine hour trip came back in this morning and
they did well. This weekend. It's a lighter load. This

(55:32):
time of year is special, man, It's it's not as
many people around the summertime. Chaos has died down, and
these trips are going out there, which is a handful
of guests, and the fishing is going really well for us.
This weekend was a little bit tougher than we would
have liked because the weather was a little bit tougher
than we would have liked. But this coming Tuesday, man,

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we've got some gorgeous weather. It is really beautiful here Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday and into Thursday ahead of this next hole front.
And not only are we going to be right on
the front side of a coal front, we're going to
be right on that new moon as well. The plagic
should be crazy fired up, really looking forward to a
super light load. We only got nineteen going Tuesday on

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this thirty nine hour trip, and we also added a
special twelve hour extreme split charter style trip on Tuesday
to take advantage of this great weather. This time of year, man,
you get these little weather windows three days, two three,
four days where wind calms down, wave calms down, and
the fish just absolutely go off fired up. So we're

(56:34):
excited to take advantage of it and capitalize. Near shore,
the kingfish are back in a big way, super exciting.
We're getting big fifteen to twenty twenty five pound kings
right on the beach and lata mackerel, lot of bait,
hogfish for firing up more and more for us. Right
around that forty to sixty foot range, got a lot

(56:55):
of lanes and a few mangroves and a couple of
red group are closer to one hundred foot. And then
once you get out there offshore, we're really doing well.
So it's a good time to get out there and
take advantage awesome.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
How do people get in touch with you over there? Dylan?

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Check us out Hubbardsmarena dot com, look us up on Facebook,
Instagram YouTube, and don't forget to catch the live stream
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(57:28):
go fishing, you're just too darmed busy.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I wanted to hear that tagline. I think you might
have heard the ferryboat captain down there and both grand
a little guests for Little said, yeah, I like that
big guy. He says, if you're too busy to go fishing,
then just take a kid or golf or there's something
else that says. But she didn't have it down, but
she knew who you were.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
I got close enough, close enough, all down.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
Thanks Dylan, Thanks sugar Bear, Sugar Bear.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Look at these guys their.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Click yeah fast, don't you thanks?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Well, they're not near one hundred, halfway halfway there, halfway,
we're halfway there. I let him go. He's already done
his tackle and I want to make sure to get
to mez. I got a Mitch and I were able
to spend a little time with him, as I hadn't
seen him since June because he just goes away yachting
up in the Northeast. But the place looks great, and

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it's that time of year where he's gonna start having
some great events out there.

Speaker 10 (58:27):
How are you, Mez, Good morning, Captains, good morning. Yeah,
great to see you and Mitch the other day. Just
really really good to be back. You're right the course,
you know, I like to hear from other people, but
the course does look great. My girls and my staff
out there are just awesome. They had a great summer.
We got a lot of projects done, changed around, a

(58:50):
lot of targets.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
They gotta be awesome. They gotta be awesome as because
it's not because you were there. I mean, I guess
you direct from Afar. That's that's good manage, I.

Speaker 10 (59:01):
Do, exactly. I've learned that from a lot of good friends.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Surround yourself with good people.

Speaker 10 (59:09):
Yeah, exactly. We've changed around a lot of stuff even
since you were there just the other day. So a
lot of the green's been changed. Some other courses that
have been you know, they have been there for a while,
have gotten James the pink a little bit.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
And also some red yellows. Yellows a little tough, especially
with a fourteen.

Speaker 10 (59:27):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and Purple is about to get
cranked up big time. In fact, I believe in December
we're talking about doing a crucible shoot, which are just
you know, seventy eighty yard targets, really really tough targets.
So we'll see how that comes up, but that'll be interesting. Well,
we've got a lot of good events coming up. Yeah,

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just kind of gearing.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Up for the whole season.

Speaker 10 (59:50):
So you know, we're excited. I've got some du stuff
coming up and some uh, you know, just a bunch
of events. Well, definitely if you're gonna come out, take
a look at our calend before you come out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Well I always did, or I called you, But now
with eight courses, I mean I've never been out there
when there wasn't courses open.

Speaker 10 (01:00:09):
Now no, there's I mean even really on the Sheriff shoot,
we can we don't have to use all the courses.
We can still have one or two open, even with
the big Sheriff shoot with four hundred people. So we're
we're geared up to do it. Our newfield pavilion has
got the big ten out there now, so that ten
is actually larger than the large pavilion now. So we're

(01:00:30):
gonna start doing events out there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
That's nice.

Speaker 11 (01:00:33):
It's really coming along.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah, place looks great.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Although you had to although it was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Cool, you had to give up half your office. That
was pretty cool.

Speaker 10 (01:00:45):
That's a little interesting, isn't it. Surprise surprise exactly. That's
what you get when you go away.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
All of those She's like, you guys, you guys start
talking about boy stuff. I'm leaving.

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
I know exactly. You know, while I was up Norris,
I did throw a couple of lines out when I
was trolling a few times and I didn't catch anything,
and I just got so frustrated. I was like, I'm
not even gonna put it out back. So I think
next time, before I do any fishing, I'm gonna give
you a call at least up there and figure out
what I need to do or what I need to
put out there, the speed I need to go, because

(01:01:22):
whatever I was doing was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Yeah, these guys might could tell you a little bit.
Of course, I don't fish that much up there, but
so you could run into stripers up there.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
Yeah, that's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Strippers, swipers, pencil poppers, and eels eels eels. But wow, yeah,
well I mean they got the artificial Yeah, we use
them sometimes for kobea here, so interesting stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:01:49):
Throwing like a big seedar plug out the back just
to see if anything would hit it. Somebody's like, oh,
just throw a cedar plug. Everything you hit cedar plugs,
And I'm like, well not everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Gone your speed, right, but you know you need to
talk to Mahony. He's the trolling plug guy.

Speaker 10 (01:02:08):
Okay, but when I do that, I'll get that going.
All right, guys, we'll listen. Great, catch it up. Thanks
for getting me on. Keep up the good work. You guys,
have an excellent day, and then I'll be seeing you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Good to see you, brother. It's good to you.

Speaker 10 (01:02:24):
You're a stud.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
I'm surviving. Cordon. To Dylan, I'm a hundred but that's okay.

Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
Yeah, and uh yeah Dylan. And Dylan is actually not
a big guy anymore. So I don't know that lady.
She she hit it. She probably hadn't seen him in
a while, but uh, he is a legend, like all
you guys. All right, Well, keep up the good work, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
All right, thank you, thank you. You guys been out
to Tampa. But I need to get you guys out there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
I'd like to go shoot that seventy That sounds fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
That sounds aggravatingly. It sounds he's gonna let you use
seven and a half to nines. I don't know. It's
seventy yards. We're gonna have to talk to him. Is
about that? Tm Ony Real Animals Radio. We just got
a call from Mike Masra, who's also a legend from
Tampa Bay Sportingclaves. If you haven't been there, you need
to get there soon. You can take the family. It's

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a wonderful place. Tm Ony Real Animals Radio. We'll be
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Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
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Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
That's the easiest way for me and Realadventures dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Are you guys still bunk buddies done in Boca grand
for tarpin season? You'll been doing that for a gazillion.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Years, twenty nine years this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Year, Jeffrey still leave Peanut Eminem's on the couch.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
We probably both do both.

Speaker 7 (01:05:26):
You brought him over to the dark side.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Peanut Eminem's on the counter always. I had taught to
Jamie and said it was pretty much a premier year,
even this last year. Yeah, we caught a lot of
fish this year, and big fish, big fish, just a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
I mean, it was another good crab year. It was
just really phenomenal, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
What I've seen surprisingly as little as I do get out,
and you know, I fish downtown a lot, trout fishing,
artificial sharks. I mean, I've been doing it long enough
that occasionally, even down in Tier Verdie, I'd have a
shark come try to, you know, follow a trout up
to the boat. But they wouldn't leave me alone several

(01:06:11):
five to six footers and trying to get I mean,
it's one thing with comorants down at Ana Maria. Comorantes
will drive you crazy. They just they between the comorants
and the dolphin, porpoises, whatever you want to call them. Today,
you've got to almost got to put short fish in
the live well and drive away to let them go. Yeah,
i'd have I remember that. Back of the day. Comrades

(01:06:34):
like to stay in the shadow of the boat and
they'll get pretty much they'll get pinfish and stuff that
don't see them. But now it's just like every tink
trout gets killed by a comorant, a porpois.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
Yeah, dolphins are bad with the snook fishing around the passes.
You know, I don't know the right answer for that.
You're trying to catch fish, and you know you're trying
to keep them alive, and of course it's against the
law to put one in a bait well, and you
can get somewhere where you can throw them back where
the dolphins don't get them.

Speaker 7 (01:07:03):
But it's just you just gotta leave dolphins sitting next
to your boat eating every.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Leave well. You talk about divers seeing the stook and stuff.
We've got divers in here from the lithium battery companies.
He's uh, he was an avy diver and he does
shark feeding trips and stuff, and he talks about the
sharks know the multi motor off shore boats. He's sitting there.
They're all having a good time feeding them pieces of
squid and fish and stuff. And the big boats go by,

(01:07:33):
they all turn and go, hey, let's follow that boat.
Then we can have grouper and snapper and hogfish for.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
That is what the problem with that is is now
they're just following every boat because that's where they're being fed.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
And the farre you when you're turbnfishing, they'll hear your
motor kick off if you don't stay on your trollo
motor and if you fire your big motor up and
go off and go chase the fish. They're following your motors.
They know it means food.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Well, the good news is there's lots of red fish.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
Yeah, I'm seeing different sharks that I've seen and we
didn't know we have a bunch of lemon sharks on
the flats and we're starting to get more of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
These sharks up in Upper Tampa Bay were very light colored.
I don't know if they're lemon or sand, but they
were not black tips. They were not bulls. They were
light colored, neutral colored sharks and very aggressive. But hey,
what are you going to do? They haven't really figured
that out. It's the same thing with the manatees. You know,
we had a lot of debate here on this show

(01:08:32):
about are they depleting the grass? They're sure not helping it.
So one of the things that I've noticed, because I've
always loved fishing just because of where i live, in
the proximity of the ramps and the fishing is I
like Upper Bay, and it's just been getting tougher and tougher. Now,
a bunch of guys did run north and they caught fish,

(01:08:54):
but it's fewer and farther between. And then the number
of captains on the water, like the problem has always been, Uh,
there's always those guys running less and less impressive boats
that are falling apart, and they're charging a fraction of
what some of the more professional guides their license ensured

(01:09:17):
in a quality boat. You know, there's always going to
be that to deal with. But you know, you get
what you pay for. You want to go out with
a quality guide and be in a nice boat. That's
definite true. You know when when we started, you know,
he had Dale Fields and all those guys from way
back when because he was a firefighter, so he guided,

(01:09:38):
you know, twenty four on forty eight off. We caught
all of our bait on the flats on occasion, different
times of year, we'd all huddle under the the main
fish house there on the on the south on the
north side of the Skyway, and you know, people didn't
much like that. We went through the years of them

(01:09:59):
throwing lead at us or sling shots and you get
that bait. But a lot of the bait we caught
was East Beach bar uh and that sort of thing.
You know, it wasn't It wasn't what you guys finally
learned to do. And that's one and done. When you
can like Potter's peer. I know that Mike pretty, Mike
and Lee and a bunch of those guys out of O'Neill's,
they're pretty much Potter's peer. Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:10:21):
Yeah, there's bait everywhere right now, And I mean you
just point your finger and it's that way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
There was bait in the Alipi River.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Yeah, there's bait.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
There's and maybe we just don't have the fish we
used to that has eaten it all. But whatever it is,
we have the bait, which is good for waterhouse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
The mackerel would either chase it in or follow them.
I mean it usually meant this time of year that
mackwell weren't far away. When you saw that bait coming in,
I was out. I went around Egmont the other day,
was going to show with.

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
Murphy and and I went around the corner and there's
there's mackerel all over Potter's for a mile, in every
direction of it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Because of the beat out there. Right now there's mackerel everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Yeah, and Rick Gross said bluefish are in the mixt
of it too. When you got that much bait, you're
gonna have blue runners anyway. Whatever you want to categories,
you know them like. But then just a week or
two ago they were worried that the kings hatn't showed up.
But now apparently they're seeing them skyrocket and show up.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
We had a little push on that last little front.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Yeah, and when the water temper dropped the first time,
a little push kingfish.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
And then it got warmer again, and then now it
got cooler.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
Again, and the water's gin clear, and you know how
that goes in a broad daylight. I mean just they
just see everything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
I swear way. I don't know what happened, but we
used to use the steel leaders, like the store bought
clip on braided ones with little wax coating or whatever
on them, and we caught them. And then through the
years you had to go to more like fifty pound
mono and the long shank hooks to catch them. And

(01:11:58):
now they tell me they're getting bokshy. I don't know
who's educating these macroy The water's clear, there's more of them.
They're smarter, I understand.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
But waters it's definitely makes a big difference if you
can find them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Jeffrey's dad ted many years ago listen to me talk
about my lack of love for eating kingfish and put
that up against my love of eating and said, well,
then you're not doing it right. And actually your dad
taught me to cut the tenderloins out in a white

(01:12:32):
wine caper sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
And now there's some waste, but it's fish that I
didn't really want to eat anyway, but cutting the tenderloins
out in a certain part of the fish something I
had never even thought of, and I believe it came
from your dad. I'd never thought about this, He's said,
closer to the head, because as you work your way
down apple agic fish, the muscle works harder. And so

(01:12:57):
he's like, you want those first couple of tenders, cut
a steak which is crossway, is not a filet, and
cut out the white part of that tenderloin and we
cooked that. It's it's pretty good.

Speaker 7 (01:13:09):
It's pretty good. If you're not going to smoke them,
that's probably the best.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Way to eat them.

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
And then you know Jamie over the years, you know,
seeing him on a keeper redfish bleeding them, which we'd
never done before back in the day. And so my
problem was for years, I couldn't kill a red fish.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
It's hard now, man, trust me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
It's everyone that, especially a twenty you know, twenty three
twenty four incher. You're like, because when you're fishing the tournaments,
we want these, we want as many of these fish
out here as possible. Have you, either one of you
been back up to Louisiana and played with those fish,
up there.

Speaker 7 (01:13:50):
I ran a big boat for a couple of years
with a guy and we were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
The offshore thing. But mahoney loves that up too. I
do too.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
It's it's pretty it's a spectacular fish well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
They're catching twelve pound mangroves. That's a big old mangrove
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Pretty easy.

Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
They're tuna fishing there, they're marlin fishing. Their sword fishing
is incredible, big snapper, it's it's an incredible fishing well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It was always pretty wild when we were fishing there.
Even at southwest past. You can still see the rigs
from there because if you've ever flown like to Dallas
or whatever and they cut the corner, all that silt
for gazillions of years has dumped out into the blue
water and built shallow water not far from infinite water,
it's pretty wild. One more time. How do they get

(01:14:37):
in touch with you? Guys? You want to go out
with the best guides on the West coast of Florida, Go.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
Florida Fishing dot com and Realadventures dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Thank both of you for coming in this morning. I
did feed you, or Lisa did anyway, So thank thanks Lisa,
Thanks Ben, Thanks Mike uh tm Ony Real Animals Radio.
We'll be back next week with some combination missing a
deer ho two. Thanks for listening. We're out.