April 17, 2025 • 58 mins
Countries around the world are asking whether it is in their best interest to align
more closely with China or the United States. Kurt Campbell helped guide US-
China policy through multiple administrations and was Deputy Secretary of State
under Joe Biden. He joins Christiane for his first TV interview since leaving
government.
Also on today’s show: Director Marcel Mettelsiefen discusses his new
documentary on the Israel-Palestine conflict, “A State of Rage”; business owners
Debbie Wei Mullin and Sarah LaFleur on the impact of the Trump tariffs
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