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September 2, 2025 55 mins
As the world marks the 80th anniversary since World War II came to an end, a strengthening alliance between Russia, China, and North Korea is casting doubt on whether the post-1945 world order is crumbling. As Beijing hosts two of America's biggest adversaries in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization Summit, striking a deal with Vladimir Putin for a new natural gas pipeline, the US is increasingly becoming more isolationist and transactional. Correspondent Ivan Watson breaks down the results of the summit and what it means for a new world order.   Also on today's show: former US State Department official Richard Haass; journalist/author Ronen Bergman; former US Labor Secretary Robert Reich  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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