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August 24, 2025 41 mins

Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Joseph Mooney, Ben Dooley, Sandy Smith and Clayton Peters.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A man, I should get a haircut and get a
real job.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Get a haircut, good afternoon, and welcome to the muster
on Hakanoi. I'm andymore here until two o'clock of course,
thanks to Peter's genellis welcome along as we see blue
sky on the horizon. See the sun does come up
when the All Blacks lose. Not the best game of rugby,
and it's going to be interesting to see how Razor

(00:25):
fixes the issues regarding these box cacks ahead of the
spring box at Eden Park in a couple of weeks time.
Why Kato beat Taranaki, So the Stags get around for
your shield challenge next Sunday four thirty five in Hamilton's
So something look forward to next weekend as you start
to get into lambing mode if you haven't already starting
to get that way. And Carvey of course in full

(00:47):
swing music today George thoroughgood haircut and get a real job.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Five day four casts brought to you by twin Farm,
tear Frop and Saft Techs.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
The proof is in the progeny tip rom dot co
dot nz And I'm not aiming this song and anybody
in particular. It's just a bloody good tune for a
Monday which sees sunny afternoon skies of calm, variable winds
in fourteen. Tuesday sunny with breezy northwesterlies minus one and fourteen.
Wednesday cloudy with breezing northerly seven and fourteen, Thursday morning

(01:20):
showers with breezing nor westerly six and fifteen, and Friday
showers of breezy westerly is one and ten. Sow temperatures
Northern South with five point eight Rivetend eight point three,
tn Our five point five, Tidor rather seven point nine,
Winton six and Woodlands six point eight, with Jamie King
of Lake Eroco starting as soft for a Monday afternoon.
Joseph Mooney empy for Southlands on the show, Sheeting Beef

(01:43):
and YouTube farmer Ben Dooley from Wyndham. I think he's
had the conveyor run, so he catch up with Dulls.
Excuse me and see how things have gone. Sandy Smith
coordinating death of all day down here and Gore. We
catch up with Sandy c things are going. He had
a definal day which happens this Friday for a great

(02:03):
cause as well. And Clayton Peter's naming sponsor. Out of
Peter's genetics, we catch up for a regular chin wag,
so a little bit more of George thorough Good than
we crack into the Jamie King says, the muster until
two o'clock. Thanks to Peters genetics, I.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Have a red boyet on mother next out.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
This is a Lemmon slide it on the evening, all right,
I like heroco this afternoon on the Muster. Jamie King
farms over that way and joins us in the Sergeant
Dan farming around up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan Stock foods
here in Gore, who coincidentally wild under all that smell
of musically about eight thirty this morning was pretty deper
down the main street of Gore. Jamie, good, afternoon.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
You know, mate, that's a hic of a tune to
get going and get together from Monday, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
One bird and one Scotch, one beard, all eight minutes
thirty and it's glory now. When I was at Radio Score,
there was one song we played when we were doing
a show if you need to do a pet staff,
I was called never ever by the Old Saints. We
went for seven and a half minutes, so you had
time to do your business and get back there, and
it wasn't dead.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
There perfect the interinet ou e's usually what a book.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Mate, I'll just leave the song going for a bit
because it does creak individually. Look how's everything over your
neck of the woods? You're getting through pretty well?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, got pretty good mate.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
We've got a beautiful day again today, so it looks
like a but we'll clear it out to the east
from in here. But now I can't complain any so
I'd say super dry, considering, oh we end up we've
got forty or fifty mili there that last belt. But
it's also disappeared pretty quick. But I had a bit
of a trickery on Southland on said they with her indoors,

(03:47):
the boss lady, and you come home feeling pretty good.
I've never even got knock grass indy, but we're going
looking pretty pretty good. Got five hundreds of solve anemonia
and some trace elements on the last week I had
at about three eighty of it was with the bulky,
which is pretty much unheard of, and I can't even
see where the bulky has been, so that's an indication.

(04:10):
So pretty good can't confine the moment, would.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
You say, your watered table's back and where it's been
compared to other years at this time.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
A huge mate hugely so he yeah, definitely, it's definitely
definitely well done. So his room will probably come up
a wee bit. But on that note, you'd be careful
what he wished for.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
H pretty much the song is still going where we're
up to. I was going to crank in. There's still
five minutes twenty five to go on. It's a it's
a rougher javy, but yeah, it is has arguably been
one of those winters the end of winter. What are
we now about? The twenty fifth of August? Another six
seven days and we're into a new into a new

(04:48):
season officially, that's right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
It's it's just unkenny and we've had winter Indy, it's
been it's been cold, it's been frost lot with grass
gra his you know, good stop when it's only just
kicking around there.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But we.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
You know, I saw it was pretty just not too
far away, and I think that's due to the lack
of moisture in the soil. That always helps.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
So we'll just wait and see.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Just on everyone, all the all the negative people out.
They keep on that spring we had last time, and
now it can't happen twice in mone You surely.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's all of our perspective in the season though, one
hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
So no, we'll just smake it up as we go.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Here we go, We're crank again now, Jamie.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Water, it's a long song just at the moment.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Though, mate, that'll be a great song in the worldshed
I'd imagine an the milking parlor when you've got time
to kill. Hey, am the Alliance group with this proposed
restructure featuring Dawn meats you supply Alliance? What are your
thoughts around it? Because and there seeing an article from
the our suspective. I'll tell you about that shortly.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
But what do you make of a Jamie Well, yeah, man,
at the end of the day, what other option have
we got? We entrust the pairs to build up there
direek doesn't it to act a properly? Obviously? Is handful?

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Haven't done?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Or zero accountability? And that's what's laid us down this track.
You know that famously one of the leams that history
never repeats. But I'm sure so firms went through this,
you know what twenty sixteen or fifteen Again, I don't know, Mike.
I've got two different ways to look at it. Obviously,
that or trying to secure a protein source or fein

(06:42):
source when you look at some numbers team, So it
won't be quite good for us for a couple of years.
Long term, I don't know. We're sort of seems to
losing control of their product. But it's probably hard to
do because we're in the middle of now. We I'll
still a lot to say the Remix set get together
in this country, mate, and join forces and get bigger.

(07:02):
But look at the Frontier model and something like that, right,
But I tell you how to look at it. You know,
they are pretty successful in New Zealand based company, but
as far as we're concerned up here, you know, they
glass are sort of off on now and it's just yeah,
let's keep going and fox on.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Do you think the horse has bolted though? As far
as that mega amalgamation which could have occurred eighteen years ago, yeah,
big time, mate.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
You know they're still giving a probably over capitalization and
still friends of books aren't too probably shit hot. Tell
these guys, well, that's an interesting one. Of their diversifications
probably working really well for them. But yeah, yeah, the
horse and there's turn the ego is probably ay, you know,

(07:47):
and there's a few of them have been stiffing around
hopefully working for allowance to fall completely units on its head.
But yeah, we're at the stage there, so we'll just
wait and see you going forward.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Irish farmers don't sound too check after about this supposed
agreement that's in the making as well, because what's an
article here from the Irish Scribes. The deal raises red
flags for Irish sheep farmers. That creates a real risk
of Bore New Zealand Lame William up in supermarket shelves
in the EU and the UK, underminding demand for Irish
lam and ultimately hitting farmers here in the pocket, stressing

(08:20):
that low income Irish sheep farmers can't afford to be
squeezed further. So that's an interesting way to look at
it too, rightly.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
So I'll be I'll be, I'll be probably pretty brassed
often in an order for us over the same thing,
you know. Yeah, you know, if someone came into this
country and doing the same thing and contrasting schemes, I
suppose they've got a population when we haven't. On that night,
the farm environment management systems are a lot more intensive

(08:50):
and they've got a lot more so it's probably a
lot more expensive to raise a lamb over there currently
the New Zealand. I mean, yeah, put relations going and
corporate to take hold. I suppose, don't they. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I think it's all about a year round supply over
on that side of the world. That's half the appeal.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, and I suppose that makes sense for in the
southern hemosphere, doesn't it. You know in the story as
are just coming out of summer, aren't they. Sorry, Yeah,
it might be really really good, but nothing's ever fears it.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So when it comes to these meetings ur reculously case
of having to vote us because the other one isn't
worth thinking about.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Ah, yeah, we'll reevaluate the int the roadshows and try
and give a couple of direct there's not a wind
up because I just there's couples will floating around here
that are probably part of the reason has been zero
accountability from some of them, which really really frustrates me.
You know, if you're gonna put your hand up and
do the role, do it properly. So yeah, I know

(09:49):
I've got a fear idea which way will go, but
otherwise what is the option? But on that note, we're
pretty loyal people here, and I suppose it's a breath FRECIATETI.
It gives opportun who needs to hunt around them? He can?
You wouldn't it be nice if we your just tender
our livestock, you know, and we've forgot procurement wars. That'll
be interesting, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Well, it's going to be a supply and demand year
to get I suppose because you look at these numbers.
We had the figure that come out in November December
last year, and that was obviously during to the spring.
But then we think about the decline and red meat
Judah numbers just disappearing and being replaced by plants or trees.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
That's right, and we've probably enough trees to be fair.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
You can't eat trees, No, you can't.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You can try, but it would be weird, be.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Hard on the anyway. I'd say, so geez a hundred percent,
And so it might be good yeah, short term. I
think it's going to be a good, good thing long
term or don't Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
We're just we'll see you see what appends out.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
I'd love a crystal ball endy, but I don't even
inter the case there.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Good only you, Jamie. We'll let you carry on. Always
appreciate your time.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Hey everyone, the saga is still going.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
That started again. This will be honest Jamie King farming
at Leka. Okay, thanks to Sergeant Dan stop foods here
in Gore in P for south and Joseph Mooney is
have a catch up shot.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Gotta get.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Right how a love much much.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Believe to see.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
This is the master George Sarah good as the music
the song there is you talk too much, But arguably
our next guess dialogue is the keita being in a
job essentially. Joseph Mooney in P for Southland joins us,
good afternoon, Joseph.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I'll try not to talk too much.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, that's the whole point of what your job was
suppose is just communication.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
It's very important opponent of it for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Absolutely hell thing's been anyway, Joseph. Over the last couple
of weeks.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Yeah, good mate, we've we've had a couple of a
couple more weeks of parliament and have some good stuff
going through the house, you know, including around building, good
scents and sort of things. Yeah, but a bit of
building action. In fact, the South and has got some
of the strongest building growth in the country. You know,
it's a reflective of a strong economic growth that we've

(12:20):
been experiencing like other parts of the country. So I
think the main still challenging, but we've had a lot
of good, good signs coming out of the South and
and one of the things, one of the sort of
changes we've been putting in place to make it easier
for building is to change change the liability for councils
from the consent projects. Because currently, if something goes wrong

(12:42):
with the way that something's built, then you know, people
look for someone to pay for it basically, and the
ead of the line of the council's a aka the ratepayers.
And you know, one example that the Minister years last
week was wasn't Queensland with rapepayers are perstentially on the
hook for around one hundred sixty million dollars. You know,
that's the just absolutely massively blow the rates out and

(13:04):
change that, changing it to what's called proportionate liability, which
means that each engineer will only be respon, will be physically,
you will be responsible to pay for what has been
responsible for doing. So they will significantly reduce risks to
councils and therefore to rate payers, and therefore behind that
it should make it a lot easier for councils to
approve projects rather than you taking this really lengthy risk

(13:27):
approach process. And now the other side is as just
around the whole conceiting processes building sense. Earlier the government
put in place targets to do those a whole lot
faster and publish results, and it's center really market improvement.
And so now I'm doing the same thing for inspections.
It's on councils to approve, you know, to inspect properties

(13:50):
within eighty eighty percent of them within three days, and
then we'll be publishing the results. That's really transparent whether
those goals have being achieved or not. Nothing, okay, having
a goal to scant and focus on now.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
But you're honest, I'm a bit puzzled, Joseph. You say
that councilors must complete eighty percent of inspections in three days.
Is this on a new dwelling as such or in
what context?

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Yeah, it is yep, yep. So it's you know, when
a when someone's when a builders build a build a
property or extension or whatever it is, then they need
you know, they need to have that inspected before they
can get signed off. And you know that you can
up the project can be finished. So once that's you know,
application has proposed to been put put through, then we

(14:36):
want them to be inspected within three days. And you
know that's it's so it's just you know, eighty eight
percent is obviously gonna be something's gonna be a bit harder,
will take a bit longer, but a percent is a
good goal, we think, and and we'll be publishing the
results to see whether they are meat or not.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So what's happening this week, it sounds is that there's
a bit of a lull in parliament because and you
your own words, get to reintroduce yourself to your family again.

Speaker 7 (15:04):
Yeah, yes, no, well that's that's my top drap here
and it is exactly right, yep. No, it's a chance
to from my families you remember who I am because
you know, during a partiment you're sitting block it died
the two or three weeks and you're away from the
majority of it. It's away from home from the majority
of it in Wellington. Were sort of the type of

(15:25):
a day in Wellington's from about seven one ten o'clock
at night minimum. So we know, we sort of we
have long, long days and nights and then place and
then get home and see the family. We don't hear
partments in this week, so there's a chance to see
the family and catch up with a few other things
in the litter. Well I think you know, both of
us live in this region because it's the place we

(15:48):
love and so it's home for us. You know, I'm
not I'm not going to still throw stones at Wellington,
but it's it's not the place for me. But you
know it's an important play, is an important role, and
you know, people who love that you love it, and
you know, we we ultimately want all of the New
Zealanders do well. But at the stay at the stage,
it's south of Otago that are really driving the economic

(16:09):
growth story in New Zealand, and that's it's a good
story and other people are noticing around the country. But
we want we want that same growth story, you know,
spreading across the country because you know, when the whole
country does well, that's good for all of us.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, we're a glad to be parikial down here, josephs
while we live down here, is it not?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (16:29):
Well, I am here because I think is the best
place in the country. But you know, and I tell
it to e run regularly.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
But I've got it.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
But I've got to keep in mind that you know,
everyone's passionate about the bit of the world. And ultimately,
you know when you if you go overseas, you know
you don't represent your region per se. You represent the
whole country. And it's somebody that somebody to keep in
mind is we fight hard for our region, but we
also fight half in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Absolutely. Joseph, Hey, we'll leave it there, mate. You enjoyed
the week off. Always got to catch up.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Good mate.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Cheers y y yaggy y. Joseph Mooney for Southland. Ben
Dooley is up next. This is the muster on Hakanui.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I won't brought us of a mile barb wire. I
got a lod of snip where letter, a new house,
a lot of rules.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Ben Dowey farms just out of Windham, sheep beef and
as well he as a YouTube channel called Deep South
Sheep and beef enjoins us, being good afternoon, How are you, oh,
not too bad in yourself? An afternoon like this is
pretty pleasant for the end of August.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Pretty bloody. You're just going around early lemmos now, And yeah,
they're obviously enjoying the weather because they're not doing a
whole lot of bloody lemming waiting on the weather will
right at the end of the week. But that's that's
what it is. I suppose enough.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
When were they supposed to start.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Twenty third of August, so they're only they're only in
their third day now. But yeah, there's there's not much happening,
but that's all right, I'll get there.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Days like this are just lounging out, showing their cards,
quite happy about things. I'd imagine.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, I just wouldn't mind if they started pushing a
few lambs out. That was all in this nice sunny
great to be born as a lamb weather.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Then we talk about technology on farming, the way things advance.
You just had the conveyor in this morning. This is
one of the things that has been implemented into a
farming system for a lot of people. You see more
positives and negatives around it.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Oh, it is just magic. This is only the second
year we've been doing it, and oh, it's just easier
on everyone. It's easier on us. We put seventeen hundred
years and six hundred and thirty hoggits throw it two
jebs for the US, one jeb one drinch for the Hoggits,
and it took less than three hours this morning. We
used to do it all in the in the yards
in the race and would do it in say four days.

(18:51):
So the US were in the in the in the
yards too long because they do they don't like being
stood off feed for six or seven hours. Yeah, he
used to break their backs doing it. Sort of wasn't
that great for the US either, squeezing them up in
a race. And yeah, you take that technology on cost
a little bit of money, it's not even that expensive
and makes everyone's life a whole lot easier.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, that's the thing that's over and done with in
the blink of an eye. Whereas if you're doing it
yourself and this costs come into it. But if you
can do it that way, it just freeze up time.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Absolutely, and even things like missshots, like when they're in
the conveyor. It's a lot easier not to do that
and make sure all the drench goes in the mouth
properly and everything, as opposed to wrestling with them in
a race. And I mean these things aren't like a
lot of those Twin News with the lambs and them
are probably eighty four ninety kilos. So yeah, just just
works out better, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And banter, You get banter when you've got people working
in the mode like that too. It's good.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Yeah, that's good. Quite a good crew that come and
do it too, so that she's bloody good.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You want to talk about white muscle or shoes today, yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
I think so we've got a few hog its just
talking a few nature in the place and then people
you know that that well, not directly to events, but yeah,
a lot of people well saying it's probably what muscle,
what you've got. So we just when we put them
over the convey we just gave them a selling Eze
five and one with B twelve. So hopefully that's enough
to pick them up and solve that issue. But not

(20:11):
something we've seen for a long time. I don't actually
remember seeing it all in my life, but yeah, just
they sort of go down on one side and they
can't get up there. They've got the energy, but they
just they can't get the balance there. The leagues aren't working.
So yeah, it was a new one for us to see,
and hopefully we'll fix that up now. But something to
keep it on, I guess, especially if you've got Hoggitts

(20:33):
on Swedes for a long amount of time.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Selenium deficiency has have been a problem.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Well not historically, although the last few years I have
neglected to put on the old selenium privels away bit
between not putting for it on at all and then
the last year ordering it, putting it on and then
going and you'll forgot something. But yeah, they do get
a reasonable amount of supplementation, and like the mixtage using
the twotis the whole way through and having that loose
like salt which they seem to absolutely wolf down, which

(20:58):
they do, and the sult their bias that sult looks
as well. But yeah, so they should be fine. So
maybe next year we give to the hoggits as well.
Just not something I'd really thought was necessary, but yeah,
not saving a few more hoggits next year.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
How many hoggits do you reckon you're lost.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
It's about six or seven. I think I'm just trying
to think. Yeah, I think it is seven now year
so well. A bit frustrating, but just one of those
things that catches it out sometimes.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
You also want to talk about the feeding and triplets.
Graham Butcher on the show last week saying that triplets
are a different kettle the fisher when it comes to feeding,
and also talking about perhaps doing some trials with triplets
being mixed in with singles. Have you got some thoughts
around this?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, I completely agree with him. There's triplets are a
massive pain. They're also a massive potential opportunity if we
can find a system that works better in their favor,
because we've got them and they don't seem to be
going anywhere in a hurry. If the oldge guys could
tell us that they could promise us no more triplets,
I think, or just a beit a vote for it
in the heartbeat, but they can't aren't. So yeah, no,

(22:02):
I completely agree with what Graham was saying. You do
have to feed them a whole lot better. And what
we've found is we get them out of scanning time
and we feed them pretty well from then on and
we try to make them eat paddicks down pretty hard
through July and in the early August, but you know,
give the them good feed, big breaks, just just sort
of making sure they get that little bit of feed

(22:23):
pressure at the end of every break, because otherwise when
you move them on, they do get groggy. But do
that in some sort them at August and then a
couple of breaks of leaving a fair bit behind, and
then we get them in quite early to do their prelam,
like a good five weeks before four or five weeks
before their lamb. Get that out of the road, and
that just seems to alleviate any milk fever issues that
we used to see a lot of trying to do it.

(22:45):
So the twentieth twenty fifth of August, do that and
get them spread out and some good feed, and then
drive around and pick up the casts every day. But yeah, no,
I just just sort of wanted to touch on that.
The one thing you said that sort of do concern
me all weave it because we used to do it
was feeding a shits. I do think they're a good thing,
and they certainly have their place, but that can definitely

(23:06):
be overdone because we used to feed them just ed
lib from scanning on. We used to feed them sheet nuts.
Think we're doing the right thing, and then we just
lost sheep hand over foot were just they were just
too big and they just couldn't handle it and had
bearings everywhere. And yes, I guess we've got a cavyt
with that. They do need to be feed very well,
but you can go overboard with it.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Just supplements them in the right situation though.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yeah, absolutely, Like, probably don't do three hundred grams of
sheet nots today every day from scanning would be a
good idea because that's just a bit much fun. But yeah,
like I say, the sheet nuts are a great thing,
and they also you can get the high mineral ones
high ignesium. I think it is that keep just give
them that extra wed boost the whole way along too.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
So yeah, are they plovers in the background.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yes, I've got plovers, I've got oyster catches, I've got
pied stilts. I think I've got some weird turns buzzing
around somewhere. They're just going nuts. As actually saw plover
chicks the other day.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
The bread life at this time of year is spectacular
and of nothing else. You know that you go through
the changing of the seasons.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yeah, yeah, Well, of course at crop paddics it's a
mess of plane in the ass because I refuse to
run them all over apart from maybe the plubbers, so
I wound up with big missus all over the paddock.
But yeah, they are apart from the plubbers. They are
or made a wildlife, aren't they. So it's cool to
see them around, and you know, they really seem to
like nesting in that dirt for some reason.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Just quickly to wrap up a lion strete with dawn meats.
What are your thoughts on it.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Dells, Yeah, look, it's a real hard one. I don't
think it's a particularly great deal, but I don't think
turning the deal down is a good idea either. I
got some views long term for the industry that we
won't get into today. Hopefully at a later date there's
a bit more well we know a bit more about

(24:48):
what's going on, and we're able to talk about that.
But I kind of feel like it's just a thing
we should take. We've got an option to get out
or get out of jail card here. I suppose you'd say,
if we don't take it. We're going to lose plants,
and people say we need to do that, and there
is some truth in that, but I just don't know

(25:09):
if losing that great, big plant at Lawnville is the
way to go. Alliance still kills something what forty of
the sheep killed in the South Island, And I just
remember hearing stories from the previous generation here back in
the day. It's when full texs went broken and space
was really tight, and you'd see a stock truck go
down the road and you'd be on the phone to

(25:29):
your agent, who'd you give bloody space? Yeah? I think
we take this deal, and then we need to talk
about what we do with our industry, because it is
an industry wide problem. Alliance is the one that has
the most problems, but none of the companies are doing
particularly well, and we look at what's happening with Fonterra.
We can't go to that model exactly, but something's got

(25:50):
to change, and I think if we do this, we
can then start moving towards or at least start having
the conversation about what we think that should look like.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
And there is some sourse been We'll have to follow
this up in a couple of weeks. Always got to
catch up Ben Dooley on a Monday afternoon. This is
the Muster on Hokanui. Sandy Smith is up next talking
about Deafitil Day happening this Friday. And before we wrap up,
Clayden Peters out of Peter's Genetics, Welcome back to the Muster.

(26:32):
Sandy Smith joins us in studio this afternoon. She is
area coordinator for Deafitil Day, happening on the twenty ninth
of August, which, ironically enough, is this Friday. Sandy get
a how.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Are you going, Andy?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Pretty good? Defital Day, it's the day which is gaining
in stature arguably our area coordinator. You've been involved with
it for a couple of years now.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yep. Yeah, this is my third year being coordinated for
the core area.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
So Defital Days it's our country's chance to work together
to change the experience of cancer for every New Zealander.
This iconic event continues to inspire people to come together
to give donations and stand side by side with those
going through cancer. Andy, one and three New Zealanders will
be affected by cancer in their lifetime. One and three
is a lot of us.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Everybody you speak to, it doesn't matter who it is,
they're affected by this in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, absolutely no, it's yeah, definitely a lot of it
out there. So yeah, in our in our local area,
we're getting out there and we're going to paint the
town yellow. We've got seven street collection sites on Friday
and we're really well supported by the local Lions clubs
and the Seroptimus and a few of our committee members
have the look after the sites out there, so we'll

(27:45):
be selling fresh defitels. The fresh Definitels are coming to
us today from in Vericrgo. So we've got Tigel from
PGG hitting down now, our fellow tennis mate is hitting
down to collect the deafitils for us, and yeah, we're
going to sort them up tonight and we've got some
online sales that have happened over the last couple of months,
so we're going to be out delivering them this week.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
So so how many people involved have a committee for
deviit all day.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
We've got about six of us that in the main committee.
We are actually looking at growing there. So we'd love
to hear from some people. In the past, we've had
a local lady who ran it for seventeen years on
our own. But yeah, we are looking at trying to
spread that load. You know, it's on the coordinator, but
many hands make light work. And hey, we all know
in an area like Gore that volunteering, what you put

(28:33):
out you get back. It's great to give to your
community and we support those who are affected by cancer.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
So yeah, what was a catalyst for you getting involved?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I had a friend who shoulder tep me.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
She her husband was affected by cancer at the time
and they were looking for somebody to take on the
area coordinator role.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Things changed a.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Bit with COVID, you know, affected the street appeal for
a couple of years. So yeah, we're doing a lot
of what was done before and just adding to it.
So we've done our bakesale again this year, which is
our third year we've done that, which raised sixteen hundred dollars.
It's such a feel good day. Yeah, and there's lots
of different businesses. The Vintage car Rally was held yesterday.

(29:15):
I was just talking to Dennis night before on the
way here and he said they had seventy cars entered,
so they did a car run down to Winton, so
he thinks they made around one thousand dollars, which is
an awesome effort.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It sounds like they had a fun day and of
course the weather was amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
We had a quisite Pioneer Rugby Club a few weeks
ago and we have got a cake raffle at Ambience
Cafe that's running this week and honestly you have to
get in there and buy a coffee because you want
to see that cake. Jude Taylor from Taylor Maye Cakes
has just blown it out of the park again every
year we look forward to seeing her cake creation.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Now being involved Daffid all day. From your perspective, what
do you most enjoyed about it? I suppose.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Working with the people and making a difference. I think
we've got Ainsleydermody who is our local cancer navigator and
our local area. She covers a pretty broad range of
South East and Southland into southern Southland and it's just
knowing that what we raise goes into our local community
and help support people affected by cancer by way of

(30:21):
accommodation if they need to go to treatment away in
duned or christ Church or wherever, or helping with transport
to get there as well as cancer research and paying
for ains lead get out and about and visit people
affected by cancer.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's really important.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So all the money raised stays in the region.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yes, it does so.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, like last year we raised the over thirty seven
thousand dollars in the Gore area, So just by way
of different different businesses and different organizations supporting us. So
lots of little things happening, So it's that whole. Yeah,
lots of little fundraisers may make a big result in
the end.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So chances are if you come and to Gore this Friday,
you're going to see people dotted around the street, corners
outside the supermarkets and the like sort of imagine, and
that's where we'll be asking for people to give donations.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, definitely, you can buy some fresh flowers. We've got
a few pins as well if you're there early in
the day, the lovely Deafitil pins. We've got Ben Bell
coming out to spend some time on the site at
New World from eleven thirty until twelve o'clock and then
over ambience from twelve fifteen till twelve forty five, so
come and say hi to him. Hopefully he'll be selling

(31:29):
some dafdils and we might dress him in some yellow. Yeah,
it's just it's a fun day. We just want to
get the word out there and have a paint the
town yellow.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
And I'm looking at some stats here on the sheet
regarding the Cancer Society. Over a million kilometers have been
driven regarding helping patients getting to treatment. Every year. Over
nearly fifty three thousand knights stayed in the Cancer Society accommodation.
That was last year alone. I mean, some of these
figures are bonkers.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
There's a lot happening out there, and it's I think
just raising that awareness is a big part of this
as well. I think, you know, sometimes we just don't
understand how much is being done. And it's not a
government funded organization, so what we raise is what helps
support people going through it.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Would you say that awareness is getting noted by the public.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I think so people are interested to know, and it's
important that you know, us, us in these roles, understand
where the money is going as well, because we get
those questions. But yeah, it's yeah, there's a Facebook page
and you can also contact the Cancer Society done in
the Vicago and they'll point you where you need to
go if you need support.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
And what is what does the Facebook page? People need
to know.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
It's the Otago Southland Canser Society. Yeah, and on there
you'll see all the events that are happening, as well
as our auction. I just need to mention that as well.
We've got an online auction which is on the auction
site thirty two auctions and then it's d D twenty
twenty five that'll take you to that site. And we've
got some amazing items on there. There's just teen items,
but we've got some wood from Pensions, We've got a

(33:01):
tiger moth flight with a voucher from Miss Coco, an
overnight Doubtful Sound journey with Real New zealand a PGG
Seeds voucher. So if any of your listeners would like
five hectares of kale seed, reach out because that's on there.
And all that money from that, it's about two thousand
dollars worth.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
That goes to.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, Cancer Society, as well as a Ninja slushy maker
which is apparently quite popular the young people and I
just drink water, and a Weber barbecue as well. So yes,
I'm really awesome.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
So how many daffies is Teagle having to bring back
from Vicago.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Oh, I think he's bringing back like one hundred and
sixty eight bunches of forty Yeah, so his carra we
painted yellow.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Well lucky he's got the bootspace in that biscuit to
I suppose, And.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I hope his boss knows he is gone because now
plastered over the radio.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Nothing wrong about hey, look all the best for Friday.
It's a great cause to bring awareness to. It's good
to catch it as hey now.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Also, I just have to mention Regional Ford as well,
because they have got me driving around in a Ford
Ranger painted up with Daffidil.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's nice, pretty cool, so look.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Out for that.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
It's whizzing around the town. You know me, Andy, I'm
mountain about quite often.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
So yeah, keep it good on your send. Thank you,
Sandy Smith talking about daffit all day. Happening this Friday,
lookout for those street collectors. Before we wrap up, Clayton
Peters Peter's Genetics Bad Welcome back to the Muster on Hakanu.

(34:44):
The song is bad to the bone. Perhaps he's not
bad to the bone, but he's rammed to the bone.
Ram Reader Clayton Peters A Peter's Genetics naming sponsor here
on the muster parp. How's that Fregnerant show for a Monday?

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, that's pretty good at good.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
How's everything going out there around Harriet Way?

Speaker 6 (34:59):
All right, it's got pretty good but cool here today,
I'm going a bit of a cool one. But the
sun looks like it's going to shine shortly. So but oh,
the weekend was obviously beautiful. Yeah, so I now it's
looking pretty good. Set us up for a good spring.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Makes a big difference to what we heard this time
last year. I suppose. I mean, like you say it as.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Early days, Yeah, it has early days, but oh we'll
get we'll get a bit of beer with us through Lemming.
We always do. But obviously hopefully those bears last year.
So you're going forward. We we should, we should. We look,
things are looking.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Good, so you're all set up for the lambing there.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Yeah, the early is just sort of joe you start
today is a few lanes proping out of the ms.
But you know, I thought it muld have been an
angel had a few over the weekend, but yeah, sort
of just started today. So yeah, no, and the rest
was spressed to spread a few other years out today
and then the rest will spread out the end of
the week. So yeah, just doing a bit of a
bit of vaccinating and stuff. And it's getting ready for

(35:50):
set up for lemming.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Really, when's are grazing finished up? Okay, you're in?

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Yeah, I was talking about croper. If I'm gonna troll
get through to it, throw it at the stage. But
if we get a cold still next week, the hobbit
will clean up, clean up.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
But clicker, I hope, Well, just a few swedes, is it?

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Yeah, it's too swede. Yeah, and yeah, but as he's
just's just been a bit drier, so in a bit warmer.
So the sheep stock have been eating so much so
I'd rather have a bit left over than be strugging
the fever stock.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, the general consensus seems to be Clayton. Everybody talking
about going onto the crops and driving on there and
not making any MUDs. So every season has certainly opened
to interpretation.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, no, it's been good that this last month's been
awesome on the crops. It's been yeah, really good. Veness
walking the follow week breaks not walking soft and through mud.
So we did ever wet June, so we you know,
we sort knew we're going to have to get a
dry spout some stage, but not quite as draw as
we've head for July. And but hey, least we're getting
a bit of a ful spring this year is we're
get a bit of grass growth but earlier, so sort

(36:48):
of a bit like the all old days.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Daffy's a barbing up. We got the lawn mode used today.
I mean someone or some people were mowing lawns and
July for goodness sake, just to get that winter ridge
off the grass.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Our wife mode the lawn in July too, and I
thought I've never seen any of it before.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Obviously that water leaks dried up then, yes.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
No, that we got there water leak tied up here.
Yeah it was a bit of major but yeah, so yeah,
that's all good. But I know we just what set
me on the moment. We're just one of us, but
sharing the Realmarckits tomorrow morning, so we'll be waiting a
few fleeces tomorrow, So looking forward to that to see
what they look like coming out.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Of the wolf.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
What are your thoughts around Wolf for the next twelve
months or so? You think there's are maybe silver lining
in there somewhere.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
I'd like to hope so any like, at the moment,
it's still not great. Obviously we create pre Laum sure
a few years and we made a little bit, but
we're not making as much as we should be out
of it for the product it is. Yeah, it should
improve hopefully as far as the.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Price of red meat, What do you make of it? Partly?
Are you optimistic that we're going to see maybe the
Word's team backs over the next twelve eighty months?

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Oh that's the night.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
I just yeah, I'm I'd like to see it stay
up high. But I just think ten but dollars like
just getting probably a bet up there, and you're got
to think of the other side of people got to
afford to buy it. I know there's a bit of
a shortage, but it's not gonna be realistic. I'd rather
it's around next eight dollars fifty for the next five
or six years to be ideal. But if it stays

(38:13):
round ten, we're good.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
At good on it.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
But yeah, I just yeah, I think it will drop
a bit over the Genuary period, look like it normally
used to. But well see what evans. Yeah, I think
there's just going to be a bit of a shortage
out there, so that's what's going to keep.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
The price up.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's been intriguing to see the price of butter being
the news the way it has, and journalists blaming Miles
Harrell for the price of batter and trying to blindside
them during impromptu interviews. But I just don't obviously understand
how trading works as a trading nation.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
Yeah, yeah, I actually until I started reading about the
papers and incidentally realized what a pound of battle was worth,
and even ask my wife, was that what we pay
for a pound of butter?

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Holy moly?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, it's in the beck of your mind when you
go shopping for no reason at all, if butter's on
a little bit of a special thinking, do I need
to Not that you need it, but because it's been
full fronts more often than not at the moment, I suppose.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's why I don't go grocery shopping,
because I get a bit of a fright and to
see what things are worth.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Do you not do the shopping at all when you
go into town? Sure?

Speaker 4 (39:14):
No, No.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Normally if I go shopping, any of the grocery bill
goes up like quite a bit more well.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Just just bloody chips and bread and tea sauce.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
And just a few muscles and a few bits and
pieces like that we don't see much of.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I just read that Betters rugby over the weekend the
All Blacks a lot of disappointment over there game against
the agis what do you make of it? Are we
as bad as what people are saying or is it
just a blip?

Speaker 6 (39:40):
I don't know. I actually just watched the replay last
night because I never watched it yesterday morning and I
didn't know the score and it was it wasn't even
I didn't even think it was great to watch. I'd
actually rather watch the NBC Rugby to be fear, I
thought that was great Australia but centefical last weekend. I
think that was good for Australia rugby. I know they
lost the weekend, but yeah, I'd say they all lexkeft

(40:02):
to improve a lot when they come up against South
Africa in Australia, well, they haven't.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Lost at Aden Park since nineteen ninety four when the
French got the try from the other end of the year,
so it's going to be interesting how that all plays out.
But you talk about the NFC of Tiger. You guys
are going pretty good.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Yeah, no, yeah, they had a good when you started.
I didn't see it, but yeah, and then I even
see out and I watched South And on Thursday night
and I thought, I was that was an awesome game
to watch. And you know, if I'm to stay in
there and win the game, I thought, I thought was
really cool.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
And the irony being They've got a shield challenge against
way Keto next Sunday. So who knows you always did
a dream when it comes to the log of Witters space, Well.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
I think that that's the way the NBC is at
the moment. I think you need team could probably win
on on the day, Like you know, it just beings
who wants it most. I reckon, but you know, like
I see Ukron got a bit of a hiding again
though I don't know what's going on there for their
for their player poll and that I just don't know
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Auckland's counties and North Harbor are propping up the bottom
of the table. Something you never thought you'd hear Auckland's
zero from four.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
Yeah, no, you have something you'd never seen. Low. I
don't think I can remember something like that.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Hey, you get on your papa, let you carry on.
We know you've got a lot on your plate, but
you guys are Peter's Genetics, yourself, Janet in the team
being major sponsors here on the Muster, we always appreciate
your time.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
No thanks very much.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
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Speaker 3 (41:37):
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Speaker 2 (41:40):
Credit to Jamie McKay's social channels for that one. That's
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