September 11, 2025 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jason Herrick, Andrew Cochrane, Phil Duncan. Michelle Watt and Elliot Smith.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Friday afternoon, so we catch up once again with Nathan
Abernethy at a regional Ford here and good, good afternoon, Nathan,
good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And another Friday rolled around here. Yes, a bit of
everything today. Really sorry where it goes, but okay right now,
so long may that continue. Heythin's are really busy around here.
It's early half in the months and we've still got
plenty to go. But there's some terrific bills happening across
the range on a new forward thro We've got a
huge amount of Ranger in Ford Everest that have arrived here.
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A huge amount of them are sold, but we do
have the odd Ranger and Everest that of all models
pretty much that are available. So if you're interested, come
and talk to the team and we'll show you around
and show you what we've got available there. But plenty
of used vehicles coming through, all makes and models. I'm
currently just sitting in one at the moment, and this
is a one owner track of twenty twenty Holden Colorado
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Z seventy one ZED seventy one is the Flash one.
It's really the equivalent of their Wild Track model. It
is a Charcole gray with black striping on it. It's
got the hard lit on the back of it, two
point eight turbo diesel traveled one hundred and forty seven k's.
And when I say it's immaculate, this truck is absolutely immcular.
It's been these people's car since it was brand new
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in twenty twenty. And look, this truck here is a
very very good guy. It's thirty two nine ninety including GST.
It's unprepared, but if you come in today you'd think
it was because it is just immaculate, chap whole, gray
and black, one hundred and forty seven k's diesel, one owner,
absolute Stonner four wheel drive. It's got everything. It's got
headed seats and all that sort of thing. It's got
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your blue pets, audio and phones and such like, and
all the safety features. So thirty two nine ninety including GST.
We can jack up finance if it's needed this afternoon.
But that's only one and we've got honestly, we've got
dozens of trucks. And I don't lie if I say
that we've potentially got about thirty second hand double cabs
and such like around this at the moment. So if
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you're thinking about doing something and you've been looking. Don't
do anything before. You can't talk to us because I'd
have to say I think we're probably the best and
just trucks just about. So I haven't talk to us
as almost as will happened to the end of the day.
And if tomorrow morning so did, you better give us
a yell. But otherwise we're available on the phone anytime
and it decides that. Hope everybody has a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Good on your n catch up next week.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Thank you, Andy, let's go girls.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Good afternoon and welcome to the Musta on Hakanui. I'm
Andy Muller. Of course I'm here until two o'clock. Thanks
for Tima Peters Genetix, Thanks very much for your company.
On an afternoon that's a bit met with the weather.
Had a dirty shower about eight o'clock here in Gee Town.
It only lasted for an hour or so, thankfully. Currently
it's overcast, a bit of sun trying to peak pop
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through a bit of a breeze and it's just a
little bit nippy. We'll talk weather properly though, with Phil
Duncan out of weather Watch.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
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Speaker 1 (03:14):
Breezy westlies and eight. Saturday showers of breezing or westerlies
four and seven, Sunday scattered showers with westerlies seven and eleven,
Monday afternoon showers of breezing nor western six and fifteen,
and Tuesday cloudy with breezing or westerlies ten and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
That's a bit better, so it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Temperatures Clinton six point six, Northern south On six point five,
Riverton six eight point three to out Our six point eight,
ditto Tinnerower, Winton six and Woodlands six point five. Jason Herrick,
president of South and Federated Farmers, starts us off for
a Friday afternoon, followed up by Andrew Cochrane out of
nys Fetes in Riversdale. Phil Duncan from weather Watch giving
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us a rundown on the weather for the next seven
days and just for September in general for that moment
given it as a busy time of year, but show
what joins us in the Country Crossover and then Elliott Smith.
Of course you can hear his commentaries regarding.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The All Blacks on gold Sport.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
We catch up with the Elliott to get his feelings
around this test happening in Wellington tomorrow night and what
he just makes of the team changes, especially with the
spring Bots.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The rest of arrest was.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Going all out there and then we'll start the ol
next straight into it. Jason Herrick from South and Fence.
This is a muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics.
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Jason Herrick as president of South and Federated Farmers and
joins us this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Good afternoon, Jason, Good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, it's a bit
of a different weatherped in the day and that it's.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like a pick of mix of chocolate.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Really raining one minute, then sunshine, then cloud, then rain
again and rinse and repeat with a bit of wind
throwing the.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Makes Oh it's spring though, isn't it. So you just
got to.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Expect it pretty much, and that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So, yeah, we're talking about the spring and a weaver,
but just at the moment we're going to start off
of this Federated farmers showing concern around winter grazing invoices
Involving Environments Southland.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, so I've had a string of phone calls from
farmers upset that they're receiving invoices in the mail regarding
cost recovery for investigations on farm that were pointed out
by the flyovers in early June, and so investigators went
out to the farm as their farms were identified as
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as breaking some of the winter grazing rules. So yeah,
I just want to make that clear that they were
pointed out or notified that they were in breach of
a rule. But then upon the discussion with the compliance
staff with Environment Southland, it's more of a misunderstanding and
a miscommunication around the rules because the rules have been
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changing and the definition of the rules have been changing
so much in the last three to four years that
everybody's awey bit loss. So you know, when the compliance
officer has left the farm and a lot of a
lot of situations, they thought everything was good, rosy and
there weren't any any more issues, and then a month
and a half later they receiving accounts in the mail
for cost recovery of eighteen hundred to four thousand dollars served.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There's a flyover of your farm, does that come down
on is that the responsibility to the farmer to pay that?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So No, the flyover itself is in your covered and
your rates that you pay. But if the fly ever
determines that there is a breach in rules on your property,
and investigators come out and they have found that you
were in breach of a rule, then you are liable
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for cost recovery. Apparently through legislation, but upon doing a
bit of ringing around and talking to a few other regions,
environments South and are the only ones doing this cost
recovery in voicing. And I have spoken to a couple
of counselors and they have said to me that it's
only because our water and land plan is a lot
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more intense than the rest of the country. So that's
the only reason that they're doing it. And it still
doesn't make any acceptable excuses because at the end of
the day, to me, it's just revenue gathering.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
With environments South and they look I spoke to a
couple of farmers this week and they've been a bit
more pragmatic about the situation. Jace talking about winter grazing
plans and regulations, how they're changing. You know, an ideal world,
this kind of thing wouldn't occur. But is this more
about a communication thing more than anything.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I think it's about the perception of the staff member
at the time. And you know, there's some really good
stuff involved in Environments South and there's no two ways
about it, but I don't think all the staff are
on the same page. I know one particular farmer who's
had environments south and on the farm for the last
three years, and last year they thought they had everything sorted,
all the advice was good and they followed the advice,
and then a different compliance officer on farm this year
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and then there's an issue and they got invoice for
a cost recovery.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So it's just a perception of the of the officer
at the time. You know, we've got compliance officers out
there telling us that critical source areas are any sort
of undulation in a paddock or a pond in a
paddock and in a heavy rain event, if it ends
up in a waterways class as a critical source area, well,
in my opinion, that's all of Southland. You know, you've
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got to be a weep bit practical and us a
bit of common sense on this that if there's a
decent amount of land or pasture between that paddock in
the waterway, sentiment is going to drop out well before then,
you know, so got to use your head in a
little bit of the situation. And there's a lot of
great area around that critical saurce area rule and a
lot of the issues that have been raised this year
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is around miscommunication. So we did point out to Environment
south And at the start of this year that their
comms could have been a whole lot better when the
decision come out of the Environment Court last year on
the buffer rule, because last year the buffer rule was
five meters inside a paddock, right, and so everybody planted
their crops out, planned all their crops on that five
meter buffer rule and then then the Environment Court changed
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it to ten meter buffer from the edge of the waterway.
Now on the current setback rule under the Water and
Land Planet, five meter setback from the edge of the
waterway for your fence and then a further five meters
in the paddock. So that's wherein lies the ten meter
buffer rule, but where farmers have been caught out if
you were under the old setback rule. Before the water
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and lamp plan was made live, it was three meters
from the edge of the waterway. So then now if
you're five meters inside the paddock three meters set back
your two meters shorter. The ten meter buffer under the
rule come out of the Environment Court. So a little
bit of common sense around of this would have been
and would have been called for, and compliance officers should
have used an educational approach rather than throwing a billet
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farmers to be honest, Well.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So Federated Farmers has been involved in the process since
twenty sixteen regarding the three meter rule, and they're saying
that you've been involved with the dialogue around this.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, we may have been involved in the dialogue around it,
but we might I can tell you now we didn't
agree with a whole lot of it, because we've just
got to swallow what's landed. At the end of the day,
you know, we were in there arguing against the ten
meta buffer. Why would we go with that teen meter buffer?
You know, if we didn't, if we weren't in there
at the end of the day, we alredy ended up
with a twenty five meter buffer, you know. So yeah,
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they can claim that we were a part of the process,
doesn't mean to say we agreed with it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Dr Mike Joy his choice of words wasn't the best
with this comment the other day. Has there been much
reaction to this since.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh, doctor might joys a he's a different different kettle office, really,
isn't he? He He's got his own opinion. At the
end of the day, I think the university let us
down in regard to it's unacceptable, especially in the last
twenty four hours that you know, wishing that anybody should
be hung like seriously, that those were very poor twice
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the words. It's unacceptable at the end of the day,
and his apology didn't really seem sincere. He was forced
to do that, in my opinion, and anybody in his
position should not be, you know, bringing ill health to anybody,
regardless of what their opinion is.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Has anybody from Fed's been in touch with doctor Joy
to get his unders, to get his side.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Of the story on this, I'm not sure from a
national point of view. I mean, we haven't from Southland
at all, but I'm not sure. I haven't spoken to
our policy team or our national team up in Wellington,
but they've definitely made a lot of noise about it.
So yeah, I can only comment from.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
What I know.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Just finally, Jace, we'll talk about the season. We've got
Phil Duncan from where the watch on the show shortly.
But September is just being September unfortunately. What message have
you got for farmers On.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The message, you know, I'm receiving a few comments like
it's got a lot of memories from bringing back memories
from last year. At the end of the day, is
not as bad as last year. But I can see
why people are thinking that. You know, we're getting constant
rain and wet events at the moment, but it is
just spring. Just remember that the sun will come out
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again and it will come good like it did last year.
Just make sure you get this wrapper our support. Call
in on your community, go to your community events, go
and talk, get off farm do what you need to
do to look after the top two inches. That's all
there is to it. And don't isolate yourself and hunk
it down because you're not the only one. We can
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all do this together. If we bunk it down, I'll
hunk it down and you know, get through it all together.
So yep, Spring's just spring and then, like I said,
the sun will come out another day.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Jason Errikos, appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
You're welcome and you have a good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Jason Herek, President of South and Federated Farmers. This is
the muster up next to way to Riversdale, Andrew Cochrane
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Speaker 6 (13:14):
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Speaker 3 (13:35):
Good afternoon, how things cocky?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Good?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Thanks?
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Andy, better now that the rains stopped. But it's some
dirty shales going through.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Just September being September, I suppose, yeah it is.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
It's unfortunately August. Augus is often a nice doesn't it.
We should be all aiming in August maybe, but certainly
horrable spring weather out there today.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Pretty much now, carvings starting to get well through. One
thing that seems to be in issue, calf scalers. What's
the situation?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Yeah, and it seems to have been a reasonably big
issue nationwide, so there's a shortage of some of the
common therapies that will use for scaring calves. In particularly
I'm talking rhodagen because there's been a reason one number
of calf scales throughout the country. We're probably just seeing
pretty standard caause of calf scales for our clients, but
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plenty of them as per normal, so most of them
coming back as roadavirus, which is very typical of what
we see. So it's just a reminder for people to
be aware regardless of what is causing the scales. As
I think I've said before, the main cause of death
is the hydration, so the main treatment is electrolytes. We
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do get clients coming in wanting antibiotics, but like I've
said already, roadavirus is the main cause, and obviously being
a virus, antibiotics aren't particularly useful, So it's electrolytes that
are the key. And most of the time what it
comes back to is costum management and how we're managing
getting good quality clostrum quickly and enough quantity into each calf,
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and that's certainly the best thing we can do as
far as prevention goes, As.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Far as our breaks road a virus, Andrew, are you
seeing much of it here?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
We are not, probably more than normal. I don't think.
I haven't looked at that specifically, but we are. The
most of the calf scaler tests that we're running are
coming back as roadavirus, which is very typical. And we're
getting a few through the doors as we always do,
especially at this time of year. As we're getting later
into the season, the bugs start to build up. Some
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of our good practices that the slip with a bit
of fatigue, I think, and maybe the clostrum isn't as
good a quality as it was earlier on. So all
of those things sort of combine to seeing more scalurs
and nasty outbreaks of this time of year.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Carrying on with the cow say, metro checking all on
swing now.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, so we sort of getting through carving now a
bit of a mixed bag, but a lot of people
are sort of getting closer about eighty percent through and
starting to think about mating already. So we are in
the process of metro chicking herds and getting those cows
cleaned up prior to mating, and looking at taking some
pre mating bloods just to see where minerals are sitting
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and making sure that everything you think you're getting into
your cows is there and enough in adequate supply.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
BBD testing as well, balls, heifers, and the likes of
course bovine viral diarrhea. It's not nice, but it's just
something it's about, so vaccinating for that so obviously given.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Yeah, So that's in the beef and the dairy space.
So we are doing a reasonal amount of BBD testing
at the moment, and both service balls before they are
used in the mating which is coming up, and in
heipers to make sure what we're bringing into our herd
is a replacement animal going to the ball is also clear,
and often in case of the heifers, that just requires
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an exposure test, especially if you've if you are a
BVD free herd, we'll just test exposure in your heifers
make sure that they are fair and that's a simple
cheap test to do. In the case of bulls, we're
often doing them individually, and that's what I was doing
this morning, and horrible southerly conditions. Blood testing balls before sale,
so most bulls, if you're buying them from reputable sources,
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we'll be having them tested before and usually vaccinated, So
for those heifers and bulls that will require two shots,
we should be thinking about getting that first BBD vaccine
into them this month because they'll need a second shot
in four to six weeks time, and then that needs
to be ideally sort of four weeks or more before mating,
so that sort of means that for a shot has
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to be done. So we see BBD every year in
both dairy and in beef. It's probably more commonly seen
in beef days because of the ease of keeping on
top of BBD with bulk milk testing and dairy herds.
Most people are pretty good at that, but those bulk
milk tests usually happen in October, so we haven't really
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sort of seen any dairy outreaks yet. But it's often
in October following that first folk milk test that we'll
see our first BBD incursions and herds, and that usually
can be cleared up by testing the young stock that
have been introduced to the herd from last year and
the beef space. The guys that are proactive and are
testing each year are pretty good at staying BVD three,
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but I'm sure there are farms out there that are
still running with BVD in their herd, either with their
knowledge or without, And there's never been a cheaper time
to be checking those herds because with the Enbova scheme
we can be running BVD bloods to see what's going
on in your herd very cheap tea because the Enbova
scheme past or most of those costs. So I certainly
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encourage farmers if they haven't checked their herd or they
are doing it annually, to put it through the Enbova
scheme and save some money there.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Hey, Andrew, I'll throw this one at you as well.
Regarding late crop use on winter cross, what's a couple
of reminders you need to keep in.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The back of your mind.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So the biggest issue is with flowing crops, So the
most common one would be kale, and with the flowering
and the maturity of those crops, we'll see an increase
in the SMCO which can become toxic. So there isn't
as much of an issue if stock have been grazing
that crop all the way through because they have been adapting.
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Is those SMCO levels rise. But if you've got a
mob of stock that have class stock that have come off.
Let's say you've taken news off because they're close slamming,
but you've still got some crop left that's going to
fouler and you think, oh, well, I might clean that
up with some cattle. If they haven't been exposed to
that crop leading up to this point and you chuck
them straight onto this flowering kale, you can certainly result
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in SMCO toxicity and the most common symptoms.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Of that.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Bloody urine or animals that are lithargic maybe have they
sort of it affects their blood cells and get hemoglobe
in u ear. So what we could often also see is,
you know, animals that are lagging behind, maybe having a
bit of difficulty with breathing or dead. So certainly advise caution.
If you're chucking a mob of stock onto a crop
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that's flowering without any prior transitional prior feeding of that crop,
we can certainly see problems.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
At about keeping rougher JAP to them and the likes that.
To imagine, Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
You certainly want it, wouldn't want it to be one
hundred percent of their diet either, so making sure there's
plenty of supplements. But I would strongly advise caution. If
you're putting a mob that hasn't been on crop yet
onto a flowering crop, you're it's a bit of a
recipe foot disaster if you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Andrew. The best way to get in touch of in
his Fits.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Give us a call here in Riversdale on three to
two five six three six. You might be lucky to
get a bit at this time of year, but certainly
leave a message and we'll get back in touch. Or
in tiw on three two four nine seven zero three nine.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Andrew Cock from out of in his Fits, always appreciate
your time.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Awesome Thanks Andy, have a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
From me and Andrew Cochrane of in his Fits, based
out of Riversdale. On a Friday afternoon, We're away to
catch up with food. Duncan out of weather Watch.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Now get a rundown on the weather for the next
seven days down here in the south.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know where. I'm a chicken fry, cold beer on
a Friday night, a pair of jeans that fit just right, and.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
A radio.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And it's time to catch up with food, Duncan from
within a Watch. So Duncan Hell things very good.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Thank you for a very windy and squawly.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Auckland just describe squarely.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I love the word squawlly. It's a burst of wind
and rain at the same time. So this time of
year basically in New Zealand anytime, but usually this time
of the year and the start of autumn as well. Yeah,
you get these heavy showers and they come with a
burst of gale force winds and that's when you're most
likely to get power cuts and those small tornadoes and
that sort of stuff when it's just very chaotic. So yeah, squawly,
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good burst of wind and rain, and before you know it,
it's sunny again and you're like, well, what was that?
You know, blue everything over and now sun's back out.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So when you put your forecast out on weather Watch,
why don't you say squawrelly next time instead of wind
with rain?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Well I do sometimes I do in the Auckland forecast
because I manually write Auckland's were the forecast, because I'm
based here, and that's how whether Watch actually started was
me just doing an Auckland weather forecast and got this
demand throughout the country could you do us? So when
I manually write it myself, I do. I write squawly
showers and then a bracket's like a burst of wind
would rain, So that people understand it because it's a
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nautical term.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
A marine term really that sounds like pirate would say.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
And you're out in the boat, sorry to cut you off.
It's it's just going to say, it's scary when you're
out in the boat and you get a squall. It's
the sort of thing that can think a boat if
you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Sounds like kind of thing a pirate would do. Are
it's scratty?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Squally, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right, talking about squally. The weather and the likes. What
are we seeing down here in the South.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's been I don't know, rain this morning at eight
o'clock and the tap turned off about ninety minutes later.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But it's not ideal for the middle of September. Fill.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, that's that's the cold front coming in, So that
is that that's kind of the main part of it,
and the showers will sort of move on through, but
you'll get dryer spells coming into the mix today, so
there's still more wet weather coming in. We're stuck in
this kind of wet set up for the next twenty
four hours. So today I think a bulk of that
wet weather has moved through, but tomorrow is the main
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sort of polar burst of air. So tonight the overnight
low is four. Now that doesn't sound too bad, but
keep to mind there'll be showers developing, so there could
be snow flurries on the ranges overnight tonight and tomorrow,
with a maximum of seven tomorrow and a low tomorrow
night of four with wet weather around, so tomorrow is
a bleak day. And on top of that, of course,
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you got the windchill with a strong westerly could be
gusting over seventy or even ninety ks an hour, so
the windchill tomorrow won't be very good. In fact, even
from let's to stay from now on, it drops from
about this evening onwards anyway, and that windchill at the
warmest part of today will be four degrees and most
of tomorrow hobbs around one or two and down to
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zero tomorrow night. So that is to be aware of
that with newborn livestock sat tonight tomorrow and THENTO Sunday
morning not very friendly. The good news says we go
into Sunday by four pm. The temperature lifts up. The
feels like temperature is eight degrees by four five pm
on Sunday evening, so lifting up again. And then on
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Monday the air temperature is the maximum is fifteen and
by Chesday eighteen. So we've got a couple of cold
days and a bit wet, miserable, and then it lifts
back up again in true spring style. It's warmer with
sunny spells coming back in next week, and the temperatures
are sort of a bit all over the place next week,
sort of into the teams for the most part. One
cold day is next Thursday with a high of ten,
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but every other day is in the teens.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
This sounds very complex. Fo Is this the same for September?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah. The easiest way to say it is it's just spring.
It it's ups and downs, you know. This September month
is really about winter starting to fade away, but it's
still dominant as far as weather forecasts are concerned. That's
why a lot of people go with the astronomical date
of the seasons, which means we're still in spring now
for another ten days or so. Sorry, excuse me, in
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winter still for another ten days or so. So this
weather is going to be like this for at least
for the rest of September. There is no change in sight.
Westerly driven. But these cold fronts in spring are short lived.
So the one that's coming in day tomorrow that's a
bit more longer lasting, but most other ones, like the
one next Wednesday, is very short lived.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Paper talking about getting a couple of inches of rain
a week. At the moment, are we going to see
precipitation levels sortainselves out?
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, the rainfall in Southland is probably i'd say normal
to above normal over the next few weeks. So there's
nothing really dramatic in there. There's no big sort of
you know, eighty milimeter day, at least not on the
Gore side. The eastern side is not so bad. If
you're closer to the western side, over towards Fjordland, I
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think your rainfall totals could be over one hundred millimeters
for the rest of the month, But in your part
of the world maybe thirty millimeters or forty at the
very most coming up over the next ten days. So
it is wet, but it's not it's not you know, awful,
but it's not great either. I'm trying to find the
silver lining for you. But it's not terrible, but it's
certainly not settled and dry either. It is unsettled because
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a lot of cold fronts are clipping the country. There
could be set over the next ten days. But because
they're westerly driven and they're moving fast and those strong winds,
they don't linger along with the wet weather. So that's
the positive silver heating.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I can give you.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So that's just the same for the country.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, the whole country. In fact, on tomorrow Saturday, the
whole country's got gale force winds. The damaging gusts go
from Stuart Island to the far North at some point
over the next thirty six hours, So this is a
nationwide blast of wind, and this windy westerly will be
off and on over the next week as well. High
pressure is not over the top of US, it's to
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the north of US and the lows apart from one
today over the North Island, most of the low pressure
is south of New Zealand, and so that puts Southland
and the whole South Island on the outer edges of
the high pressure zone, but also the outer edges of
the low pressure zone. So that brings them the windy stuff.
That's why it's weather.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You're still hearing of a few frosts occurring around the
province as well. As crazy as it sounds to go
af this weather.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah, in fact, you know, we've got frost maps on
our website which show a lot of places in the
frost zone. But actually we need to update those maps
because it also means below zero. So if it's windy
and below zero, you don't usually get a frost. And
so that's what we said when you look at the
Ruralweather dot co dot MZ frost forecast, because that captures
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into it cloud cover, temperatures, and if it's raining or windy,
and so if you look at the general frost map,
you see frost around Southland. When you look at the
actual frost forecast that we're all weather, it doesn't show frost.
And so what that's saying is temperatures could get down
below zero while it's well, it's windy, so you might
not get a frost from that, but it will be
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very cold. And so that is a risk over the
next forty eight hours of some of that weather, mostly
at night time and slightly higher elevations even than where
you are, so.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Dargan of weather Watch, we always appreciate your time on
the muster. My friend, have a squawly weekend, maybe wild
and who knows what's going to happen right.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, you too, have a good squallly one.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm going to weather Watch every Friday here on the
must Oh I happen to need a Next we catch
up with Michelle What, executive producer of the Country.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
In this week's country Crossover, Nicole Beer.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
On Friday night, it has time for the country crossover.
Michelle What, executive producer of the Country, joins us once again.
(29:31):
Get a Michelle get a.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
And it's feels like ages since I spoke to you.
For some reason, I'm not sure what I think, because
a lot has happened in the last couple of weeks we.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Have been away.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Last time we spoke, you caught up with Chucker Wilson
prior to that, and well, Jamie wanted an intervention last
week because of the ram Freely Shield.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
But this week is just be I don't know, you
feel like you're all newsed out.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Oh, I feel like I'm used out. We'll talk about
that at the end. How we're going to cope with that.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
But look, this is interesting curriculum changes regarding agriculture.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yes, so I come across this this morning. Of course
the media release I think might have come out yesterday afternoon,
But agribusiness in schools is part of changes in the
new curriculum. So it's going to be taught as an
industry lead subject and no longer stand alone. Now what
that means, Andy, is that basically it's no longer going
to be an academic type subject where you sit in
a classroom or that's not going to be part of
(30:22):
the curriculum. It's going to just be sort of more
vocational industry lead, as in practical skills. So those skills.
The schools that still teach those practical skills in agriculture,
which is still a few around the country, will still
have that. But the ones that are just doing the
agribusiness side of things, there may not be anything in
schools for kids anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I spoke to Currie Yellen from of SIMT.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Paul's Collegiate on the must A Wee while ago, actually
talking egra business and schools, and I caught up with
her once again up at the field Days back in June.
And now, if you're a kid doing agra business, you
have to be involved with the innovations at the at
the Field Days as such, and the whole school really
got involved and all the kids had a real passion
for the industry. So it's a bit of a concernive
(31:03):
this is going to be the way forward.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Oh, it's really sad. At the moment. Agribusiness is actually
taught by achievements standards and unit standards and it's going
a more vocational pathway, so it gives you the student
on option for both. So it's interesting that they're moving
more towards that industry standards. I mean, what's going to
happen to those kids, you know, especially when you think
about the likes of universities like Lincoln and Massy and
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things like that, and some of the amazing people that
are coming out of that into the agribusiness sphere these days.
I mean, you look at the Situation Outlook for Primary
Industries report which was released at Field Days this year.
The sector employees three hundred and sixty thousand people and
that was as of March twenty twenty three, or twelve
point four percent of the new Zealand workforce is employed
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by the primary sector basically, so it's you know, super
interesting that that's something they've decided is no longer going
to be an academic pathway of course.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now, the changes for years eleven to thirteen include curriculum
based jects around science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. Students being
able to specialize in areas including Earth and Space science,
statistics and data science, electronics and megatronics, but there will
also be a new specialist mass subjects including further mass.
Other new subjects include Civics, Politics and philosophy, Great Media,
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Journalism and Communications, temti at A Maori, the Year Goo,
Pacific Studies and music Technology.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah, so it's interesting, isn't It sounds like some of
them have just been repackaged to me, I mean, it's
been a long time since I've been at school, and
I'm sure it's been a long time since you were
Year elevento thirteen.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
As well, thirty three years in counting.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
Yeah, I'm not going to put years on it because
it just makes me feel incredibly old. And I'm sure
things have changed a lot even in that time from
school for kids as well. But you know, I remember agribusiness,
especially being from a rural co ed school, and you
would have been the same down where you were. It
actually was, you know, it was a topic. It was
a subject and actually a lot of kids did it.
And I do have a lot of friends that went
to Lincoln and things like that become agribusiness accountants and
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all sorts of stuff, farmers, you know, all sorts of
things from that as well.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Dame nol And taroa new Zella Nepple has really dropped
the ball on this. But a couple of things that
we haven't heard a lot about this week, which is
still haven't been released on the press. There's another issue there.
I'm just staying well away from that because they've got
other stuff going on. But Gazelle and Netple and I
don't know, this is really interesting. She's been hung out
to dry.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Oh I was shocked. Were you shocked when you saw this?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Yeah, I was excited to read it about three or
four times because I thought, no, this is fake news.
You know, this can't be real. Yes, So Silviparon's coach
has been stood down, of course. Dame nol And tyr
Ors she led the team to a twenty nineteen World
Cup victory. She led them to several victories, actually a
very successful team and being stood down right before the
(33:48):
series against South Africa which starts Sunday week. So it's
it's super interesting this has happened. Of course, a lot
of it obviously is not telling the full story, which
I find really interesting. There's just part of it coming out.
And of course there's been you know, support for Dame
Nolen coming out from Vonn Willering and Laura Langman. Actually
is a fantastic interview if you want to grab that
(34:10):
off Gold Sport on their podcast with von Willering yesterday,
jump on and listen to that one really great interview
with her. Of course she is an absolute legend of
the sport. Laura Langman's letter. Did you read that one? Yes,
you know, incredible support for Dame Nolen. I think she
was coached by her right the way through high school
into the Rep teams as well.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Now it's that time of year, it's busy. I've been
talking to farmers asking them for little oh don't know,
they just little things they do to break up the
monotony of the lambing or the carving season. And just
saying to keep in your mind heading into the weekend. Yes,
the weather hasn't been flash and there's work to do,
but you've got to got to look after yourself as well.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Oh absolutely, Andy, I mean I've never really as a kid. Yeah,
I helped out with lamming over the road with the
neighbors and things like that, and I used to ride
my horse around the neighbors paddock and keep an eye
out for things going on. But for me as a
kidbviously the stress wasn't there because the farm didn't belong
to me. So I can't imagine, you know, how much
stress that is running a business and knowing each you know,
dead lamb or dead calf or anything like that, or
(35:10):
the weather turning and it's not nice. It's not great.
And I think you know, even you know, as a kid,
remembering we had a really bad year once where all
the slinkys were piled up, you know, at the end
of the road, and it's not a nice thing. So
I can't even imagine how much stress that causes. So
hopefully the weather stays good and we don't have too
much of that. But also it's equally a hard time
of year where you're working incredibly hard out there all day,
(35:32):
you know, all night sometimes as well, and also coming
into that season where they're out in the tractors all
the time as well is not too far away. So
some things to look out for that you could do.
Switching off from work I think is really important. I
know you and I are good at that. Andy, Yeah,
just switch off. But you know, when you live on
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the farm and it's part of your work and you're
looking out the window at the paddock and things like
that and it's where you live, it's quite difficult. So
I think having routines and this comes from Farmstrong as well,
actually this tip and I thought it was a great one.
Having a routine where you actually actively switch off, so
you know, coming into the house, getting changed, having a shower,
you know, having that cup of coffee and switch. You know,
having a definite line of like I'm finished where it now,
(36:15):
I'm at home, you know, I'm having a break or
whatever is really important. I think connecting with others is
another really important one, and there's lots of that going
on around the country. We get lots of tips from
our Farmstrong champions about doing things like holding our shed shouts,
at their own farm, just so people can get together
have a yarn and quite often you'll find out that
everyone is going through the same thing, especially if you're
in the same area. And if problem shared is a
(36:36):
problem halved. You know, that type of stuff as well.
And I think getting off farm, as I said before,
you know, make sure that you've got those sports things,
those outside interest, something that you can go to and
maybe a really busy time of year anything I don't
have time for this, but even like just getting out
going to town. You know, maybe you have a gym
in your town, go there for twenty minutes, you know,
something like that, go for a beer with a mate,
(36:57):
you know, just get off farm, have some time out,
you know, and don't talk about work.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I thought you said gin instead of gym, meaning if
you're going to get head of gin and town, go
and do it just to wrap up or a tager
going to keep winning in the NPC they got the
NECKI tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Oh it's going to be a tough bet, isn't it,
because Tardanaki are traditionally a very strong team. But hey,
you know, I don't want to drink them by saying
they can do it. But I'm a believer. I'm going
to say yes.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Eightler's up on Sundays, Stagg's playing County's good on you, Michelle,
always good.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
To catch up. Always good mate, Michelle.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Watt and the Country Crossover. Elliot Smith is up next
from New Stig CB and gold Sport. You can hear
his commentares. We'll talk a bit of ab he's ahead
of the Big Test tomorrow at the Caketon and before
(37:54):
we wrap up for the week here on the Muster
Elliott Smith. You can hear his commentares on gold Sport
doing a beautiful job as well. You would have seen
those clips not down on social media of the last
thirty seconds of the Test last week and Eden Park
do your sound as a favor as well. If you're
sick of the commentary on Talley, go and sync it
up with gold Sport.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You can do it. It's not hard to do.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
And let him bring the picture from the stadium into
your room as well. Elliott, good afternoon, straight off the top.
What do you make of the changes of us.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
All black side? Because there are a few, there are
a few, y afternoon, Look, I liked them to be honest.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
You know, South Africa have made some changes at the
start of the week and Razor has been able to
look at that team and figure out the best way
of matching that. But I also think he's made some
changes that we'll get to have a look and learn
a bit more about some of these players. Leroy Carter
on the left wig was electric for the Chiefs and
Super Rugby. He can play multiple positions as well. Whether
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he can do that at test levels another question entirely.
But at the NPC level, was seen him play halfback.
We've seen him playing the midfield, and he's very, very quick,
and I think that's what the All Blacks have lacked
in recent times is some out and outpace on either wing.
They've had some power wingers, they've had some wingers with
great footwork, but in terms of that just speed to burn,
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it's been a while since we've had that out and outpace.
I think Leroy Carter are very much deserving of a shot.
He's a point of difference in terms of some of
the other wingers that are around the All Blacks camp
at the moment, and I think worthy of his opportunity.
Just a nuggety player his sevens background, he's good at
getting over the ball in one on one situations as well.
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You know, as I said, small player but very very
physically strong and looking forward to seeing him tomorrow night.
And the other changes, you know, Will Jordan and Damien
McKenzie fourteen and fifteen a little bit of a surprise,
but I think they were lacking a little bit for
a right wing option this week when they could have
played Sev Reeves. But I think he's fallen out of
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favor a little bit after Buenos Aire's and this was
the combination that played seventy three minutes last week in
Auckland and was a winning combination at that so I
kind of like the continuity there. And Noah Hopsam at
halfback feels like he's been around the All Blacks camp
for quite some time now, but this is only his
third Test tomorrow night and his first Test start, so
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you know, it's gone under the radar a little bit
with the excitement and the noise around Leroy Carter getting
his first opportunity, but big opportunity, big moment for Noah
Hopeam tomorrow night. We saw how big the kick battle
was out of nine last week between the two half backs.
You know, a bit of pressure on him to respond.
Hasn't played a starting game all the way back since
(40:36):
Super Rugby, so in the final there, so you know,
all lies on him. And then the other couple of
tweeks injury related of course as well, with Tucky Yoho
coming in for Taylor which seemed fairly obvious, and Lomax
coming in at tied heads for Fletcher Newle which is
a pretty straightforward swap in there. You know, quite close
in terms of where they sit in the all Blacks
pecking quarter. So by and large, Andy, I quite like
(40:58):
the moves that Scott Robertson made. He's kept the nucleus
of that back five combination in the pack that did
so well last week. But we get to see a
bit more about some of these players in the back line.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Simon Parker at Sex, he's going pretty good.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Yep, absolutely, I think you know Hasten to you know
Christen him is the first choice blindside as yet. But
he certainly didn't put a foot wrong last week. Did
he some thumping tackles on the spring box. He also
made some good meats as well. I thought he was
really really busy around the park and that's what they
want to see and importantly as well. I think what
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it did through having him at six, and this is
no slight on Tupovai, who I thought made a good
fist of his opportunities to that point, but it just
allowed Artie to focus on being in the open side
flanker and in turn allowed Wall of Satiki to beat
focus on being the number eight and they could all
play their natural or assigned roles, which we probably haven't
seen to this point. Artie wasn't having to try and
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be you know, a hybrid open side flanker in number eight.
At the same time, he could just folks on being
an open side and taking those opportunities when they prevented
themselves got over the baller calls very very late as well.
So if he can back it up with another good
performance tomorrow night, then I think the All Blacks have
found a really good one this year. They were prepared
to wait, you know, through injuries and things like that
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for him to get his opportunity, and it was a
great starting opportunity for him last week. So, as I said,
hopefully more of the same tomorrow night to really make
that six.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Juseys on Rassi Rasmus hasn't just changed his socks and jocks.
He's Brandon's small wardrobe, has whole wardrobe and he started again. Elliott,
is this all we expected?
Speaker 5 (42:37):
No?
Speaker 8 (42:37):
This is Pete Rassi though, isn't it. You know you
lose on a Saturday night then less than forty eight
hours later, which is what Rassie likes to do, is
just name a team earlier on a Monday and set
things up and play from there. You know, a lot
of changes.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
No Pollard this.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
Week, last week's captain Jesse Kriel not there, damn and
the Allende gone as well. Change it, r Bank, Grant
Williams drops to the Benjamin. This is a real reshuffle
from Russi Erasmus, and to me it suggests that they
might expand their game plan a little bit more tomorrow night.
It may not be as kick orientated as it was
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last week we saw Pollard.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
They go to the.
Speaker 8 (43:18):
Skies a number of times throughout the game. Finberg in
Gomezulu at tem will be in flying to run a
bit more. Will be a run first mentality, necessarily, but
he has got a great running game. Ethan hooker on
the wing is outstanding as well. If he gets ball
in hand, he's scored a lot of tries at the
URC level for the Sharks and then Canaan Moody and
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midfield caused the All Blacks a few issues when he
last played in midfield a couple of years ago, so
it didn't get too many opportunities on the wing. So
I think they'll change things up a little bit tomorrow night.
We might see a little bit more of that Tony
Brown influence on the spring Box team than perhaps what
we saw last week when the Aerial.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Bat or one out.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
In terms of a game plan, they may go a
little bit more expensive. I wouldn't say too much more,
but we may see a little bit more of the
Springbok showing their hand at sky Stadium.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
South Africa has been in New Zealand and seeing what
the Ranfrelly shield means to the NPC into the country
as well. But on a Super Rugby note, do you
think they regret leaving?
Speaker 8 (44:20):
I think the players miss it and missed the opportunity
to come over to New Zealand and look, I don't
think either competition is perfect that the URC or Super Rugby.
You know, South Africans would tell you that the All
Black sorry, the new Zealand Rugby didn't want them in
Super Rugby anymore and they were booted out. New Zealand
(44:40):
Rugby would tell a different version of that story regardless.
I think at some point it was going to come
to a breaking point that New Zealand Super Rugby teams
were battling, you know, financially, to have their teams out
of time zones for so long in a season. South
African time zones didn't necessarily work either for teams coming
(45:01):
downs in New Zealand, so at some point there was
going to be as split and I think COVID accelerated
that a little bit. I think both parties miss it
in terms of the quality and seeing some players now
Ethan Hooker, as I said, starting on the wing for
the spring Box tomorrow night, he's a player that we
don't really know a lot about. He's got a lot
of tryings for the Sharks out of the last couple
(45:22):
of seasons, but if we were seeing him in Super
Rugby we'd know a little bit more. So it changes
things a little bit there. You don't know the players
in and out as much as you would pre COVID.
I think it's a little bit of regret on both
sides about the way it played out, but I don't
necessarily see him come back, come back together at any
point in the near future.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Just to wrap up, what do you see playing out
result wise tomorrow night O.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
Look, I think the All.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Blacks will win.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
I think they'll take the confidence from last week. I
know speaking to a couple of the players yesterday and
the Scott robertson they've taken the lessons out of when
they quarter but are against Argentina then we're very poor
and Buenos Aidre is the following week and they've gone
through this week and gone, okay, how do we back
up a worm get our preparation white? The question I'd
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have for the All Blacks is how much of an
edge can they recreate this week?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Eden Park?
Speaker 8 (46:15):
Last week there was so much riding on that Tis,
there was a fervent excitement around what the spring walks
are going to bring. There was so much of an
edge all week. Have they recreated that in camp? Can
they recreate it and get up again? I know Richie
McCaul has been in camp this week with the All Blacks.
If they can create that eache, then I think the
All Blacks will be too good on home soil, perhaps
(46:38):
by eight to ten points, similar margin to last week.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
Ell.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, Smith, always appreciate your time. Of course, we can
hear your commentaries on Gold Sports tomorrow night. Always appreciate it.
Antler's up for the Stags as well.
Speaker 8 (46:49):
Yep, look forward to seeing our sever Reese responds in
his Stags Dav as well, with a bit of pressure
on them. So yeah, we'll wait to see how that goes.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
And another Friday rolled around here. Yes, a bit of
everything today. Really sorry where it goes, but okay right now,
so long may that continue. Heythin's are really busy around here.
It's early half in the months and we've still got
plenty to go. But there's some terrific bills happening across
the range on a new forward thro We've got a
huge amount of Ranger in Ford Everest that have arrived here.
(00:30):
A huge amount of them are sold, but we do
have the odd Ranger and Everest that of all models
pretty much that are available. So if you're interested, come
and talk to the team and we'll show you around
and show you what we've got available there. But plenty
of used vehicles coming through, all makes and models. I'm
currently just sitting in one at the moment, and this
is a one owner track of twenty twenty Holden Colorado
(00:51):
Z seventy one ZED seventy one is the Flash one.
It's really the equivalent of their Wild Track model. It
is a Charcole gray with black striping on it. It's
got the hard lit on the back of it, two
point eight turbo diesel traveled one hundred and forty seven k's.
And when I say it's immaculate, this truck is absolutely immcular.
It's been these people's car since it was brand new
(01:11):
in twenty twenty. And look, this truck here is a
very very good guy. It's thirty two nine ninety including GST.
It's unprepared, but if you come in today you'd think
it was because it is just immaculate, chap whole, gray
and black, one hundred and forty seven k's diesel, one owner,
absolute Stonner four wheel drive. It's got everything. It's got
headed seats and all that sort of thing. It's got
(01:33):
your blue pets, audio and phones and such like, and
all the safety features. So thirty two nine ninety including GST.
We can jack up finance if it's needed this afternoon.
But that's only one and we've got honestly, we've got
dozens of trucks. And I don't lie if I say
that we've potentially got about thirty second hand double cabs
and such like around this at the moment. So if
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you're thinking about doing something and you've been looking. Don't
do anything before. You can't talk to us because I'd
have to say I think we're probably the best and
just trucks just about. So I haven't talk to us
as almost as will happened to the end of the day.
And if tomorrow morning so did, you better give us
a yell. But otherwise we're available on the phone anytime
and it decides that. Hope everybody has a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Good on your n catch up next week.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Thank you, Andy, let's go girls.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Good afternoon and welcome to the Musta on Hakanui. I'm
Andy Muller. Of course I'm here until two o'clock. Thanks
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On an afternoon that's a bit met with the weather.
Had a dirty shower about eight o'clock here in Gee Town.
It only lasted for an hour or so, thankfully. Currently
it's overcast, a bit of sun trying to peak pop
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through a bit of a breeze and it's just a
little bit nippy. We'll talk weather properly though, with Phil
Duncan out of weather Watch.
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Temperatures Clinton six point six, Northern south On six point five,
Riverton six eight point three to out Our six point eight,
ditto Tinnerower, Winton six and Woodlands six point five. Jason Herrick,
president of South and Federated Farmers, starts us off for
a Friday afternoon, followed up by Andrew Cochrane out of
nys Fetes in Riversdale. Phil Duncan from weather Watch giving
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us a rundown on the weather for the next seven
days and just for September in general for that moment
given it as a busy time of year, but show
what joins us in the Country Crossover and then Elliott Smith.
Of course you can hear his commentaries regarding.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The All Blacks on gold Sport.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
We catch up with the Elliott to get his feelings
around this test happening in Wellington tomorrow night and what
he just makes of the team changes, especially with the
spring Bots.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The rest of arrest was.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Going all out there and then we'll start the ol
next straight into it. Jason Herrick from South and Fence.
This is a muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics.
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Jason Herrick as president of South and Federated Farmers and
joins us this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Good afternoon, Jason, Good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, it's a bit
of a different weatherped in the day and that it's.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like a pick of mix of chocolate.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Really raining one minute, then sunshine, then cloud, then rain
again and rinse and repeat with a bit of wind
throwing the.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Makes Oh it's spring though, isn't it. So you just
got to.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Expect it pretty much, and that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So, yeah, we're talking about the spring and a weaver,
but just at the moment we're going to start off
of this Federated farmers showing concern around winter grazing invoices
Involving Environments Southland.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, so I've had a string of phone calls from
farmers upset that they're receiving invoices in the mail regarding
cost recovery for investigations on farm that were pointed out
by the flyovers in early June, and so investigators went
out to the farm as their farms were identified as
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as breaking some of the winter grazing rules. So yeah,
I just want to make that clear that they were
pointed out or notified that they were in breach of
a rule. But then upon the discussion with the compliance
staff with Environment Southland, it's more of a misunderstanding and
a miscommunication around the rules because the rules have been
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changing and the definition of the rules have been changing
so much in the last three to four years that
everybody's awey bit loss. So you know, when the compliance
officer has left the farm and a lot of a
lot of situations, they thought everything was good, rosy and
there weren't any any more issues, and then a month
and a half later they receiving accounts in the mail
for cost recovery of eighteen hundred to four thousand dollars served.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
There's a flyover of your farm, does that come down
on is that the responsibility to the farmer to pay that?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
So No, the flyover itself is in your covered and
your rates that you pay. But if the fly ever
determines that there is a breach in rules on your property,
and investigators come out and they have found that you
were in breach of a rule, then you are liable
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for cost recovery. Apparently through legislation, but upon doing a
bit of ringing around and talking to a few other regions,
environments South and are the only ones doing this cost
recovery in voicing. And I have spoken to a couple
of counselors and they have said to me that it's
only because our water and land plan is a lot
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more intense than the rest of the country. So that's
the only reason that they're doing it. And it still
doesn't make any acceptable excuses because at the end of
the day, to me, it's just revenue gathering.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
With environments South and they look I spoke to a
couple of farmers this week and they've been a bit
more pragmatic about the situation. Jace talking about winter grazing
plans and regulations, how they're changing. You know, an ideal world,
this kind of thing wouldn't occur. But is this more
about a communication thing more than anything.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I think it's about the perception of the staff member
at the time. And you know, there's some really good
stuff involved in Environments South and there's no two ways
about it, but I don't think all the staff are
on the same page. I know one particular farmer who's
had environments south and on the farm for the last
three years, and last year they thought they had everything sorted,
all the advice was good and they followed the advice,
and then a different compliance officer on farm this year
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and then there's an issue and they got invoice for
a cost recovery.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So it's just a perception of the of the officer
at the time. You know, we've got compliance officers out
there telling us that critical source areas are any sort
of undulation in a paddock or a pond in a
paddock and in a heavy rain event, if it ends
up in a waterways class as a critical source area, well,
in my opinion, that's all of Southland. You know, you've
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got to be a weep bit practical and us a
bit of common sense on this that if there's a
decent amount of land or pasture between that paddock in
the waterway, sentiment is going to drop out well before then,
you know, so got to use your head in a
little bit of the situation. And there's a lot of
great area around that critical saurce area rule and a
lot of the issues that have been raised this year
(08:54):
is around miscommunication. So we did point out to Environment
south And at the start of this year that their
comms could have been a whole lot better when the
decision come out of the Environment Court last year on
the buffer rule, because last year the buffer rule was
five meters inside a paddock, right, and so everybody planted
their crops out, planned all their crops on that five
meter buffer rule and then then the Environment Court changed
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it to ten meter buffer from the edge of the waterway.
Now on the current setback rule under the Water and
Land Planet, five meter setback from the edge of the
waterway for your fence and then a further five meters
in the paddock. So that's wherein lies the ten meter
buffer rule, but where farmers have been caught out if
you were under the old setback rule. Before the water
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and lamp plan was made live, it was three meters
from the edge of the waterway. So then now if
you're five meters inside the paddock three meters set back
your two meters shorter. The ten meter buffer under the
rule come out of the Environment Court. So a little
bit of common sense around of this would have been
and would have been called for, and compliance officers should
have used an educational approach rather than throwing a billet
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farmers to be honest, Well.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So Federated Farmers has been involved in the process since
twenty sixteen regarding the three meter rule, and they're saying
that you've been involved with the dialogue around this.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, we may have been involved in the dialogue around it,
but we might I can tell you now we didn't
agree with a whole lot of it, because we've just
got to swallow what's landed. At the end of the day,
you know, we were in there arguing against the ten
meta buffer. Why would we go with that teen meter buffer?
You know, if we didn't, if we weren't in there
at the end of the day, we alredy ended up
with a twenty five meter buffer, you know. So yeah,
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they can claim that we were a part of the process,
doesn't mean to say we agreed with it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Dr Mike Joy his choice of words wasn't the best
with this comment the other day. Has there been much
reaction to this since.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh, doctor might joys a he's a different different kettle office, really,
isn't he? He He's got his own opinion. At the
end of the day, I think the university let us
down in regard to it's unacceptable, especially in the last
twenty four hours that you know, wishing that anybody should
be hung like seriously, that those were very poor twice
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the words. It's unacceptable at the end of the day,
and his apology didn't really seem sincere. He was forced
to do that, in my opinion, and anybody in his
position should not be, you know, bringing ill health to anybody,
regardless of what their opinion is.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Has anybody from Fed's been in touch with doctor Joy
to get his unders, to get his side.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Of the story on this, I'm not sure from a
national point of view. I mean, we haven't from Southland
at all, but I'm not sure. I haven't spoken to
our policy team or our national team up in Wellington,
but they've definitely made a lot of noise about it.
So yeah, I can only comment from.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
What I know.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Just finally, Jace, we'll talk about the season. We've got
Phil Duncan from where the watch on the show shortly.
But September is just being September unfortunately. What message have
you got for farmers On.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
The message, you know, I'm receiving a few comments like
it's got a lot of memories from bringing back memories
from last year. At the end of the day, is
not as bad as last year. But I can see
why people are thinking that. You know, we're getting constant
rain and wet events at the moment, but it is
just spring. Just remember that the sun will come out
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again and it will come good like it did last year.
Just make sure you get this wrapper our support. Call
in on your community, go to your community events, go
and talk, get off farm do what you need to
do to look after the top two inches. That's all
there is to it. And don't isolate yourself and hunk
it down because you're not the only one. We can
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all do this together. If we bunk it down, I'll
hunk it down and you know, get through it all together.
So yep, Spring's just spring and then, like I said,
the sun will come out another day.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Jason Errikos, appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
You're welcome and you have a good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
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the muster up next to way to Riversdale, Andrew Cochrane
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Speaker 3 (13:35):
Good afternoon, how things cocky?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Good?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Thanks?
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Andy, better now that the rains stopped. But it's some
dirty shales going through.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Just September being September, I suppose, yeah it is.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
It's unfortunately August. Augus is often a nice doesn't it.
We should be all aiming in August maybe, but certainly
horrable spring weather out there today.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Pretty much now, carvings starting to get well through. One
thing that seems to be in issue, calf scalers. What's
the situation?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Yeah, and it seems to have been a reasonably big
issue nationwide, so there's a shortage of some of the
common therapies that will use for scaring calves. In particularly
I'm talking rhodagen because there's been a reason one number
of calf scales throughout the country. We're probably just seeing
pretty standard caause of calf scales for our clients, but
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plenty of them as per normal, so most of them
coming back as roadavirus, which is very typical of what
we see. So it's just a reminder for people to
be aware regardless of what is causing the scales. As
I think I've said before, the main cause of death
is the hydration, so the main treatment is electrolytes. We
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do get clients coming in wanting antibiotics, but like I've
said already, roadavirus is the main cause, and obviously being
a virus, antibiotics aren't particularly useful, So it's electrolytes that
are the key. And most of the time what it
comes back to is costum management and how we're managing
getting good quality clostrum quickly and enough quantity into each calf,
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and that's certainly the best thing we can do as
far as prevention goes, As.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Far as our breaks road a virus, Andrew, are you
seeing much of it here?
Speaker 6 (15:20):
We are not, probably more than normal. I don't think.
I haven't looked at that specifically, but we are. The
most of the calf scaler tests that we're running are
coming back as roadavirus, which is very typical. And we're
getting a few through the doors as we always do,
especially at this time of year. As we're getting later
into the season, the bugs start to build up. Some
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of our good practices that the slip with a bit
of fatigue, I think, and maybe the clostrum isn't as
good a quality as it was earlier on. So all
of those things sort of combine to seeing more scalurs
and nasty outbreaks of this time of year.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Carrying on with the cow say, metro checking all on
swing now.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Yeah, so we sort of getting through carving now a
bit of a mixed bag, but a lot of people
are sort of getting closer about eighty percent through and
starting to think about mating already. So we are in
the process of metro chicking herds and getting those cows
cleaned up prior to mating, and looking at taking some
pre mating bloods just to see where minerals are sitting
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and making sure that everything you think you're getting into
your cows is there and enough in adequate supply.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
BBD testing as well, balls, heifers, and the likes of
course bovine viral diarrhea. It's not nice, but it's just
something it's about, so vaccinating for that so obviously given.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Yeah, So that's in the beef and the dairy space.
So we are doing a reasonal amount of BBD testing
at the moment, and both service balls before they are
used in the mating which is coming up, and in
heipers to make sure what we're bringing into our herd
is a replacement animal going to the ball is also clear,
and often in case of the heifers, that just requires
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an exposure test, especially if you've if you are a
BVD free herd, we'll just test exposure in your heifers
make sure that they are fair and that's a simple
cheap test to do. In the case of bulls, we're
often doing them individually, and that's what I was doing
this morning, and horrible southerly conditions. Blood testing balls before sale,
so most bulls, if you're buying them from reputable sources,
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we'll be having them tested before and usually vaccinated, So
for those heifers and bulls that will require two shots,
we should be thinking about getting that first BBD vaccine
into them this month because they'll need a second shot
in four to six weeks time, and then that needs
to be ideally sort of four weeks or more before mating,
so that sort of means that for a shot has
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to be done. So we see BBD every year in
both dairy and in beef. It's probably more commonly seen
in beef days because of the ease of keeping on
top of BBD with bulk milk testing and dairy herds.
Most people are pretty good at that, but those bulk
milk tests usually happen in October, so we haven't really
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sort of seen any dairy outreaks yet. But it's often
in October following that first folk milk test that we'll
see our first BBD incursions and herds, and that usually
can be cleared up by testing the young stock that
have been introduced to the herd from last year and
the beef space. The guys that are proactive and are
testing each year are pretty good at staying BVD three,
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but I'm sure there are farms out there that are
still running with BVD in their herd, either with their
knowledge or without, And there's never been a cheaper time
to be checking those herds because with the Enbova scheme
we can be running BVD bloods to see what's going
on in your herd very cheap tea because the Enbova
scheme past or most of those costs. So I certainly
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encourage farmers if they haven't checked their herd or they
are doing it annually, to put it through the Enbova
scheme and save some money there.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Hey, Andrew, I'll throw this one at you as well.
Regarding late crop use on winter cross, what's a couple
of reminders you need to keep in.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The back of your mind.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
So the biggest issue is with flowing crops, So the
most common one would be kale, and with the flowering
and the maturity of those crops, we'll see an increase
in the SMCO which can become toxic. So there isn't
as much of an issue if stock have been grazing
that crop all the way through because they have been adapting.
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Is those SMCO levels rise. But if you've got a
mob of stock that have class stock that have come off.
Let's say you've taken news off because they're close slamming,
but you've still got some crop left that's going to
fouler and you think, oh, well, I might clean that
up with some cattle. If they haven't been exposed to
that crop leading up to this point and you chuck
them straight onto this flowering kale, you can certainly result
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in SMCO toxicity and the most common symptoms.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Of that.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Bloody urine or animals that are lithargic maybe have they
sort of it affects their blood cells and get hemoglobe
in u ear. So what we could often also see is,
you know, animals that are lagging behind, maybe having a
bit of difficulty with breathing or dead. So certainly advise caution.
If you're chucking a mob of stock onto a crop
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that's flowering without any prior transitional prior feeding of that crop,
we can certainly see problems.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
At about keeping rougher JAP to them and the likes that.
To imagine, Yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
You certainly want it, wouldn't want it to be one
hundred percent of their diet either, so making sure there's
plenty of supplements. But I would strongly advise caution. If
you're putting a mob that hasn't been on crop yet
onto a flowering crop, you're it's a bit of a
recipe foot disaster if you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Andrew. The best way to get in touch of in
his Fits.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Give us a call here in Riversdale on three to
two five six three six. You might be lucky to
get a bit at this time of year, but certainly
leave a message and we'll get back in touch. Or
in tiw on three two four nine seven zero three nine.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Andrew Cock from out of in his Fits, always appreciate
your time.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Awesome Thanks Andy, have a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
From me and Andrew Cochrane of in his Fits, based
out of Riversdale. On a Friday afternoon, We're away to
catch up with food. Duncan out of weather Watch.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Now get a rundown on the weather for the next
seven days down here in the south.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know where. I'm a chicken fry, cold beer on
a Friday night, a pair of jeans that fit just right, and.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
A radio.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And it's time to catch up with food, Duncan from
within a Watch. So Duncan Hell things very good.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Thank you for a very windy and squawly.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Auckland just describe squarely.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I love the word squawlly. It's a burst of wind
and rain at the same time. So this time of
year basically in New Zealand anytime, but usually this time
of the year and the start of autumn as well. Yeah,
you get these heavy showers and they come with a
burst of gale force winds and that's when you're most
likely to get power cuts and those small tornadoes and
that sort of stuff when it's just very chaotic. So yeah, squawly,
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good burst of wind and rain, and before you know it,
it's sunny again and you're like, well, what was that?
You know, blue everything over and now sun's back out.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So when you put your forecast out on weather Watch,
why don't you say squawrelly next time instead of wind
with rain?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
Well I do sometimes I do in the Auckland forecast
because I manually write Auckland's were the forecast, because I'm
based here, and that's how whether Watch actually started was
me just doing an Auckland weather forecast and got this
demand throughout the country could you do us? So when
I manually write it myself, I do. I write squawly
showers and then a bracket's like a burst of wind
would rain, So that people understand it because it's a
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nautical term.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
A marine term really that sounds like pirate would say.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
And you're out in the boat, sorry to cut you off.
It's it's just going to say, it's scary when you're
out in the boat and you get a squall. It's
the sort of thing that can think a boat if
you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Sounds like kind of thing a pirate would do. Are
it's scratty?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Squally, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Right, talking about squally. The weather and the likes. What
are we seeing down here in the South.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's been I don't know, rain this morning at eight
o'clock and the tap turned off about ninety minutes later.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
But it's not ideal for the middle of September. Fill.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, that's that's the cold front coming in, So that
is that that's kind of the main part of it,
and the showers will sort of move on through, but
you'll get dryer spells coming into the mix today, so
there's still more wet weather coming in. We're stuck in
this kind of wet set up for the next twenty
four hours. So today I think a bulk of that
wet weather has moved through, but tomorrow is the main
(23:53):
sort of polar burst of air. So tonight the overnight
low is four. Now that doesn't sound too bad, but
keep to mind there'll be showers developing, so there could
be snow flurries on the ranges overnight tonight and tomorrow,
with a maximum of seven tomorrow and a low tomorrow
night of four with wet weather around, so tomorrow is
a bleak day. And on top of that, of course,
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you got the windchill with a strong westerly could be
gusting over seventy or even ninety ks an hour, so
the windchill tomorrow won't be very good. In fact, even
from let's to stay from now on, it drops from
about this evening onwards anyway, and that windchill at the
warmest part of today will be four degrees and most
of tomorrow hobbs around one or two and down to
(24:36):
zero tomorrow night. So that is to be aware of
that with newborn livestock sat tonight tomorrow and THENTO Sunday
morning not very friendly. The good news says we go
into Sunday by four pm. The temperature lifts up. The
feels like temperature is eight degrees by four five pm
on Sunday evening, so lifting up again. And then on
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Monday the air temperature is the maximum is fifteen and
by Chesday eighteen. So we've got a couple of cold
days and a bit wet, miserable, and then it lifts
back up again in true spring style. It's warmer with
sunny spells coming back in next week, and the temperatures
are sort of a bit all over the place next week,
sort of into the teams for the most part. One
cold day is next Thursday with a high of ten,
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but every other day is in the teens.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
This sounds very complex. Fo Is this the same for September?
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah. The easiest way to say it is it's just spring.
It it's ups and downs, you know. This September month
is really about winter starting to fade away, but it's
still dominant as far as weather forecasts are concerned. That's
why a lot of people go with the astronomical date
of the seasons, which means we're still in spring now
for another ten days or so. Sorry, excuse me, in
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winter still for another ten days or so. So this
weather is going to be like this for at least
for the rest of September. There is no change in sight.
Westerly driven. But these cold fronts in spring are short lived.
So the one that's coming in day tomorrow that's a
bit more longer lasting, but most other ones, like the
one next Wednesday, is very short lived.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Paper talking about getting a couple of inches of rain
a week. At the moment, are we going to see
precipitation levels sortainselves out?
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, the rainfall in Southland is probably i'd say normal
to above normal over the next few weeks. So there's
nothing really dramatic in there. There's no big sort of
you know, eighty milimeter day, at least not on the
Gore side. The eastern side is not so bad. If
you're closer to the western side, over towards Fjordland, I
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think your rainfall totals could be over one hundred millimeters
for the rest of the month, But in your part
of the world maybe thirty millimeters or forty at the
very most coming up over the next ten days. So
it is wet, but it's not it's not you know, awful,
but it's not great either. I'm trying to find the
silver lining for you. But it's not terrible, but it's
certainly not settled and dry either. It is unsettled because
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a lot of cold fronts are clipping the country. There
could be set over the next ten days. But because
they're westerly driven and they're moving fast and those strong winds,
they don't linger along with the wet weather. So that's
the positive silver heating.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I can give you.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
So that's just the same for the country.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, the whole country. In fact, on tomorrow Saturday, the
whole country's got gale force winds. The damaging gusts go
from Stuart Island to the far North at some point
over the next thirty six hours, So this is a
nationwide blast of wind, and this windy westerly will be
off and on over the next week as well. High
pressure is not over the top of US, it's to
(27:33):
the north of US and the lows apart from one
today over the North Island, most of the low pressure
is south of New Zealand, and so that puts Southland
and the whole South Island on the outer edges of
the high pressure zone, but also the outer edges of
the low pressure zone. So that brings them the windy stuff.
That's why it's weather.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You're still hearing of a few frosts occurring around the
province as well. As crazy as it sounds to go
af this weather.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah, in fact, you know, we've got frost maps on
our website which show a lot of places in the
frost zone. But actually we need to update those maps
because it also means below zero. So if it's windy
and below zero, you don't usually get a frost. And
so that's what we said when you look at the
Ruralweather dot co dot MZ frost forecast, because that captures
(28:16):
into it cloud cover, temperatures, and if it's raining or windy,
and so if you look at the general frost map,
you see frost around Southland. When you look at the
actual frost forecast that we're all weather, it doesn't show frost.
And so what that's saying is temperatures could get down
below zero while it's well, it's windy, so you might
not get a frost from that, but it will be
(28:37):
very cold. And so that is a risk over the
next forty eight hours of some of that weather, mostly
at night time and slightly higher elevations even than where
you are, so.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Dargan of weather Watch, we always appreciate your time on
the muster. My friend, have a squawly weekend, maybe wild
and who knows what's going to happen right.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, you too, have a good squallly one.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm going to weather Watch every Friday here on the
must Oh I happen to need a Next we catch
up with Michelle What, executive producer of the Country.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
In this week's country Crossover, Nicole Beer.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
On Friday night, it has time for the country crossover.
Michelle What, executive producer of the Country, joins us once again.
(29:31):
Get a Michelle get a.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
And it's feels like ages since I spoke to you.
For some reason, I'm not sure what I think, because
a lot has happened in the last couple of weeks we.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Have been away.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Last time we spoke, you caught up with Chucker Wilson
prior to that, and well, Jamie wanted an intervention last
week because of the ram Freely Shield.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
But this week is just be I don't know, you
feel like you're all newsed out.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Oh, I feel like I'm used out. We'll talk about
that at the end. How we're going to cope with that.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
But look, this is interesting curriculum changes regarding agriculture.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yes, so I come across this this morning. Of course
the media release I think might have come out yesterday afternoon,
But agribusiness in schools is part of changes in the
new curriculum. So it's going to be taught as an
industry lead subject and no longer stand alone. Now what
that means, Andy, is that basically it's no longer going
to be an academic type subject where you sit in
a classroom or that's not going to be part of
(30:22):
the curriculum. It's going to just be sort of more
vocational industry lead, as in practical skills. So those skills.
The schools that still teach those practical skills in agriculture,
which is still a few around the country, will still
have that. But the ones that are just doing the
agribusiness side of things, there may not be anything in
schools for kids anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I spoke to Currie Yellen from of SIMT.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Paul's Collegiate on the must A Wee while ago, actually
talking egra business and schools, and I caught up with
her once again up at the field Days back in June.
And now, if you're a kid doing agra business, you
have to be involved with the innovations at the at
the Field Days as such, and the whole school really
got involved and all the kids had a real passion
for the industry. So it's a bit of a concernive
(31:03):
this is going to be the way forward.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Oh, it's really sad. At the moment. Agribusiness is actually
taught by achievements standards and unit standards and it's going
a more vocational pathway, so it gives you the student
on option for both. So it's interesting that they're moving
more towards that industry standards. I mean, what's going to
happen to those kids, you know, especially when you think
about the likes of universities like Lincoln and Massy and
(31:26):
things like that, and some of the amazing people that
are coming out of that into the agribusiness sphere these days.
I mean, you look at the Situation Outlook for Primary
Industries report which was released at Field Days this year.
The sector employees three hundred and sixty thousand people and
that was as of March twenty twenty three, or twelve
point four percent of the new Zealand workforce is employed
(31:47):
by the primary sector basically, so it's you know, super
interesting that that's something they've decided is no longer going
to be an academic pathway of course.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Now, the changes for years eleven to thirteen include curriculum
based jects around science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. Students being
able to specialize in areas including Earth and Space science,
statistics and data science, electronics and megatronics, but there will
also be a new specialist mass subjects including further mass.
Other new subjects include Civics, Politics and philosophy, Great Media,
(32:19):
Journalism and Communications, temti at A Maori, the Year Goo,
Pacific Studies and music Technology.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Yeah, so it's interesting, isn't It sounds like some of
them have just been repackaged to me, I mean, it's
been a long time since I've been at school, and
I'm sure it's been a long time since you were
Year elevento thirteen.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
As well, thirty three years in counting.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
Yeah, I'm not going to put years on it because
it just makes me feel incredibly old. And I'm sure
things have changed a lot even in that time from
school for kids as well. But you know, I remember agribusiness,
especially being from a rural co ed school, and you
would have been the same down where you were. It
actually was, you know, it was a topic. It was
a subject and actually a lot of kids did it.
And I do have a lot of friends that went
to Lincoln and things like that become agribusiness accountants and
(33:00):
all sorts of stuff, farmers, you know, all sorts of
things from that as well.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Dame nol And taroa new Zella Nepple has really dropped
the ball on this. But a couple of things that
we haven't heard a lot about this week, which is
still haven't been released on the press. There's another issue there.
I'm just staying well away from that because they've got
other stuff going on. But Gazelle and Netple and I
don't know, this is really interesting. She's been hung out
to dry.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Oh I was shocked. Were you shocked when you saw this?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Yeah, I was excited to read it about three or
four times because I thought, no, this is fake news.
You know, this can't be real. Yes, So Silviparon's coach
has been stood down, of course. Dame nol And tyr
Ors she led the team to a twenty nineteen World
Cup victory. She led them to several victories, actually a
very successful team and being stood down right before the
(33:48):
series against South Africa which starts Sunday week. So it's
it's super interesting this has happened. Of course, a lot
of it obviously is not telling the full story, which
I find really interesting. There's just part of it coming out.
And of course there's been you know, support for Dame
Nolen coming out from Vonn Willering and Laura Langman. Actually
is a fantastic interview if you want to grab that
(34:10):
off Gold Sport on their podcast with von Willering yesterday,
jump on and listen to that one really great interview
with her. Of course she is an absolute legend of
the sport. Laura Langman's letter. Did you read that one? Yes,
you know, incredible support for Dame Nolen. I think she
was coached by her right the way through high school
into the Rep teams as well.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Now it's that time of year, it's busy. I've been
talking to farmers asking them for little oh don't know,
they just little things they do to break up the
monotony of the lambing or the carving season. And just
saying to keep in your mind heading into the weekend. Yes,
the weather hasn't been flash and there's work to do,
but you've got to got to look after yourself as well.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Oh absolutely, Andy, I mean I've never really as a kid. Yeah,
I helped out with lamming over the road with the
neighbors and things like that, and I used to ride
my horse around the neighbors paddock and keep an eye
out for things going on. But for me as a
kidbviously the stress wasn't there because the farm didn't belong
to me. So I can't imagine, you know, how much
stress that is running a business and knowing each you know,
dead lamb or dead calf or anything like that, or
(35:10):
the weather turning and it's not nice. It's not great.
And I think you know, even you know, as a kid,
remembering we had a really bad year once where all
the slinkys were piled up, you know, at the end
of the road, and it's not a nice thing. So
I can't even imagine how much stress that causes. So
hopefully the weather stays good and we don't have too
much of that. But also it's equally a hard time
of year where you're working incredibly hard out there all day,
(35:32):
you know, all night sometimes as well, and also coming
into that season where they're out in the tractors all
the time as well is not too far away. So
some things to look out for that you could do.
Switching off from work I think is really important. I
know you and I are good at that. Andy, Yeah,
just switch off. But you know, when you live on
(35:53):
the farm and it's part of your work and you're
looking out the window at the paddock and things like
that and it's where you live, it's quite difficult. So
I think having routines and this comes from Farmstrong as well,
actually this tip and I thought it was a great one.
Having a routine where you actually actively switch off, so
you know, coming into the house, getting changed, having a shower,
you know, having that cup of coffee and switch. You know,
having a definite line of like I'm finished where it now,
(36:15):
I'm at home, you know, I'm having a break or
whatever is really important. I think connecting with others is
another really important one, and there's lots of that going
on around the country. We get lots of tips from
our Farmstrong champions about doing things like holding our shed shouts,
at their own farm, just so people can get together
have a yarn and quite often you'll find out that
everyone is going through the same thing, especially if you're
in the same area. And if problem shared is a
(36:36):
problem halved. You know, that type of stuff as well.
And I think getting off farm, as I said before,
you know, make sure that you've got those sports things,
those outside interest, something that you can go to and
maybe a really busy time of year anything I don't
have time for this, but even like just getting out
going to town. You know, maybe you have a gym
in your town, go there for twenty minutes, you know,
something like that, go for a beer with a mate,
(36:57):
you know, just get off farm, have some time out,
you know, and don't talk about work.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I thought you said gin instead of gym, meaning if
you're going to get head of gin and town, go
and do it just to wrap up or a tager
going to keep winning in the NPC they got the
NECKI tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
Oh it's going to be a tough bet, isn't it,
because Tardanaki are traditionally a very strong team. But hey,
you know, I don't want to drink them by saying
they can do it. But I'm a believer. I'm going
to say yes.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Eightler's up on Sundays, Stagg's playing County's good on you, Michelle,
always good.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
To catch up. Always good mate, Michelle.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Watt and the Country Crossover. Elliot Smith is up next
from New Stig CB and gold Sport. You can hear
his commentares. We'll talk a bit of ab he's ahead
of the Big Test tomorrow at the Caketon and before
(37:54):
we wrap up for the week here on the Muster
Elliott Smith. You can hear his commentares on gold Sport
doing a beautiful job as well. You would have seen
those clips not down on social media of the last
thirty seconds of the Test last week and Eden Park
do your sound as a favor as well. If you're
sick of the commentary on Talley, go and sync it
up with gold Sport.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You can do it. It's not hard to do.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
And let him bring the picture from the stadium into
your room as well. Elliott, good afternoon, straight off the top.
What do you make of the changes of us.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
All black side? Because there are a few, there are
a few, y afternoon, Look, I liked them to be honest.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
You know, South Africa have made some changes at the
start of the week and Razor has been able to
look at that team and figure out the best way
of matching that. But I also think he's made some
changes that we'll get to have a look and learn
a bit more about some of these players. Leroy Carter
on the left wig was electric for the Chiefs and
Super Rugby. He can play multiple positions as well. Whether
(38:50):
he can do that at test levels another question entirely.
But at the NPC level, was seen him play halfback.
We've seen him playing the midfield, and he's very, very quick,
and I think that's what the All Blacks have lacked
in recent times is some out and outpace on either wing.
They've had some power wingers, they've had some wingers with
great footwork, but in terms of that just speed to burn,
(39:13):
it's been a while since we've had that out and outpace.
I think Leroy Carter are very much deserving of a shot.
He's a point of difference in terms of some of
the other wingers that are around the All Blacks camp
at the moment, and I think worthy of his opportunity.
Just a nuggety player his sevens background, he's good at
getting over the ball in one on one situations as well.
(39:34):
You know, as I said, small player but very very
physically strong and looking forward to seeing him tomorrow night.
And the other changes, you know, Will Jordan and Damien
McKenzie fourteen and fifteen a little bit of a surprise,
but I think they were lacking a little bit for
a right wing option this week when they could have
played Sev Reeves. But I think he's fallen out of
(39:55):
favor a little bit after Buenos Aire's and this was
the combination that played seventy three minutes last week in
Auckland and was a winning combination at that so I
kind of like the continuity there. And Noah Hopsam at
halfback feels like he's been around the All Blacks camp
for quite some time now, but this is only his
third Test tomorrow night and his first Test start, so
(40:16):
you know, it's gone under the radar a little bit
with the excitement and the noise around Leroy Carter getting
his first opportunity, but big opportunity, big moment for Noah
Hopeam tomorrow night. We saw how big the kick battle
was out of nine last week between the two half backs.
You know, a bit of pressure on him to respond.
Hasn't played a starting game all the way back since
(40:36):
Super Rugby, so in the final there, so you know,
all lies on him. And then the other couple of
tweeks injury related of course as well, with Tucky Yoho
coming in for Taylor which seemed fairly obvious, and Lomax
coming in at tied heads for Fletcher Newle which is
a pretty straightforward swap in there. You know, quite close
in terms of where they sit in the all Blacks
pecking quarter. So by and large, Andy, I quite like
(40:58):
the moves that Scott Robertson made. He's kept the nucleus
of that back five combination in the pack that did
so well last week. But we get to see a
bit more about some of these players in the back line.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Simon Parker at Sex, he's going pretty good.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Yep, absolutely, I think you know Hasten to you know
Christen him is the first choice blindside as yet. But
he certainly didn't put a foot wrong last week. Did
he some thumping tackles on the spring box. He also
made some good meats as well. I thought he was
really really busy around the park and that's what they
want to see and importantly as well. I think what
(41:34):
it did through having him at six, and this is
no slight on Tupovai, who I thought made a good
fist of his opportunities to that point, but it just
allowed Artie to focus on being in the open side
flanker and in turn allowed Wall of Satiki to beat
focus on being the number eight and they could all
play their natural or assigned roles, which we probably haven't
seen to this point. Artie wasn't having to try and
(41:55):
be you know, a hybrid open side flanker in number eight.
At the same time, he could just folks on being
an open side and taking those opportunities when they prevented
themselves got over the baller calls very very late as well.
So if he can back it up with another good
performance tomorrow night, then I think the All Blacks have
found a really good one this year. They were prepared
to wait, you know, through injuries and things like that
(42:17):
for him to get his opportunity, and it was a
great starting opportunity for him last week. So, as I said,
hopefully more of the same tomorrow night to really make
that six.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Juseys on Rassi Rasmus hasn't just changed his socks and jocks.
He's Brandon's small wardrobe, has whole wardrobe and he started again. Elliott,
is this all we expected?
Speaker 5 (42:37):
No?
Speaker 8 (42:37):
This is Pete Rassi though, isn't it. You know you
lose on a Saturday night then less than forty eight
hours later, which is what Rassie likes to do, is
just name a team earlier on a Monday and set
things up and play from there. You know, a lot
of changes.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
No Pollard this.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
Week, last week's captain Jesse Kriel not there, damn and
the Allende gone as well. Change it, r Bank, Grant
Williams drops to the Benjamin. This is a real reshuffle
from Russi Erasmus, and to me it suggests that they
might expand their game plan a little bit more tomorrow night.
It may not be as kick orientated as it was
(43:16):
last week we saw Pollard.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
They go to the.
Speaker 8 (43:18):
Skies a number of times throughout the game. Finberg in
Gomezulu at tem will be in flying to run a
bit more. Will be a run first mentality, necessarily, but
he has got a great running game. Ethan hooker on
the wing is outstanding as well. If he gets ball
in hand, he's scored a lot of tries at the
URC level for the Sharks and then Canaan Moody and
(43:41):
midfield caused the All Blacks a few issues when he
last played in midfield a couple of years ago, so
it didn't get too many opportunities on the wing. So
I think they'll change things up a little bit tomorrow night.
We might see a little bit more of that Tony
Brown influence on the spring Box team than perhaps what
we saw last week when the Aerial.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Bat or one out.
Speaker 8 (44:00):
In terms of a game plan, they may go a
little bit more expensive. I wouldn't say too much more,
but we may see a little bit more of the
Springbok showing their hand at sky Stadium.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
South Africa has been in New Zealand and seeing what
the Ranfrelly shield means to the NPC into the country
as well. But on a Super Rugby note, do you
think they regret leaving?
Speaker 8 (44:20):
I think the players miss it and missed the opportunity
to come over to New Zealand and look, I don't
think either competition is perfect that the URC or Super Rugby.
You know, South Africans would tell you that the All
Black sorry, the new Zealand Rugby didn't want them in
Super Rugby anymore and they were booted out. New Zealand
(44:40):
Rugby would tell a different version of that story regardless.
I think at some point it was going to come
to a breaking point that New Zealand Super Rugby teams
were battling, you know, financially, to have their teams out
of time zones for so long in a season. South
African time zones didn't necessarily work either for teams coming
(45:01):
downs in New Zealand, so at some point there was
going to be as split and I think COVID accelerated
that a little bit. I think both parties miss it
in terms of the quality and seeing some players now
Ethan Hooker, as I said, starting on the wing for
the spring Box tomorrow night, he's a player that we
don't really know a lot about. He's got a lot
of tryings for the Sharks out of the last couple
(45:22):
of seasons, but if we were seeing him in Super
Rugby we'd know a little bit more. So it changes
things a little bit there. You don't know the players
in and out as much as you would pre COVID.
I think it's a little bit of regret on both
sides about the way it played out, but I don't
necessarily see him come back, come back together at any
point in the near future.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Just to wrap up, what do you see playing out
result wise tomorrow night O.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
Look, I think the All.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Blacks will win.
Speaker 8 (45:49):
I think they'll take the confidence from last week. I
know speaking to a couple of the players yesterday and
the Scott robertson they've taken the lessons out of when
they quarter but are against Argentina then we're very poor
and Buenos Aidre is the following week and they've gone
through this week and gone, okay, how do we back
up a worm get our preparation white? The question I'd
(46:11):
have for the All Blacks is how much of an
edge can they recreate this week?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Eden Park?
Speaker 8 (46:15):
Last week there was so much riding on that Tis,
there was a fervent excitement around what the spring walks
are going to bring. There was so much of an
edge all week. Have they recreated that in camp? Can
they recreate it and get up again? I know Richie
McCaul has been in camp this week with the All Blacks.
If they can create that eache, then I think the
All Blacks will be too good on home soil, perhaps
(46:38):
by eight to ten points, similar margin to last week.
Speaker 6 (46:41):
Ell.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, Smith, always appreciate your time. Of course, we can
hear your commentaries on Gold Sports tomorrow night. Always appreciate it.
Antler's up for the Stags as well.
Speaker 8 (46:49):
Yep, look forward to seeing our sever Reese responds in
his Stags Dav as well, with a bit of pressure
on them. So yeah, we'll wait to see how that goes.
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