The Muster Full Show: 22/09/25

Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Joseph Mooney, Ben Dooley, Mark Dillon and Logan Savory.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good afternoon and welcome to the master on Haknu I
meaning me I here until two o'clock thanks to Peterson Nix,
thanks to your company on an overcast afternoon here in Gtown,
which matches the mood of a Southern sporting fan, but
not if you're in a Tago.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Full credit to you.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
And what an absolute standout game of rugby to beat
Canterbury to claim the Ranfreity Shield once again and will
pretty much raises a lot of ghosts from nineteen ninety
four at Lancaster Park where you had the shield one
for seventy nine of the eighty minutes. But nonetheless, well
I've done to Targo. Fantastic to see in the Stags.

(00:46):
Yeah go again on Friday, I suppose. But on the
sporting weekend context is well Penrith they're going to looks
like they're going to win the NRL for a fifth
time in a row. And if you follow AFL, I
don't know how many of you do, but for me,
my calling went out of the AFL in the prelim finals,
so it is a Brisbane long final. We carry on
though Rod Stewart. The Chunes.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
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Speaker 1 (01:18):
This afternoon showers of breezy northeries and a highest seventeen.
Tuesday sunny, we're breezing southwesterlyes zero and thirteen. Wednesday cloudy,
we're breezing nor westerlies four and fourteen. Thursday showers of
breezy northwesterlies three and twelve and Friday thunderstorms. In the
afternoon we're breezing all westerlies two and ten. So temperatures

(01:38):
Clinton eight point nine, Northern South and eight point fine,
Riverton nine point six, tianw eight point eight, Winter eight
point three and.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Woodlands eight point five.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Jamie King of Lake Heroco starts us off from the
Satin Dam, fumbing around up Joseph Mooney Ippy for Southland.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
He texted before and said I've got time for a
quick chat.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I've got to get on the big bird and get
up to Wellington, so we see what Joe has got
in store for us today. Ben Dowey farms down at
Wyndham sheep beef and YouTube farmer, and then Mark Dillon
just back from the world plowing champs and in the
Czech Republic. He's away next year to Croatia.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
So we catch up with.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Bob to see how everything went, and like and Sevry
of the Southern Tribune, we talked Craigie, we talk the
stags has been pretty ugly over the last three weeks,
so we just try and dissect what's actually happening at
the moment.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
So without further ado, we start the Yellur now with
Jamie King.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
You're listening to the Muster until two o'clock thanks to
Peter's genetics. Jamie King farms over at Lake Heroco and

(02:59):
Western sith open. Then joins us in sageant Dan Farming Update,
Thanks for Sergeant Dan Stock. Food's here on the main
street of Gored. Good afternoon, Jamie. How's everything good?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Mate? Here again?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Pretty good today. Just we gen to westerly and but nawsome,
naws and one feels like spring andy just.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Looking on the forecast. We're meant to be getting.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Lots of rain right a bit now, but it hasn't
come and I can still see the mountains, so we
will keep your fingers.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Crossed well up there.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
And for Jordland and the likes you've had quite a
bit of late snow.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, you know, there's probably been more snow on the
on the Princess and the hero Quise on September and
what there was of wintermate, it has dissipitated a lot.
But I think what I'd say, we've at least took
one hundred and sixty five or seventy mill of rainy
up since the start of September, so that's more than
what we had probably for well the last half of

(03:51):
June's lawne hawks, mate.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
So Jeordy yed talking figures over two hundred miles for
September up to last Thursday, so you're not allowed in
that as well, but certainly frustration when you need the
big yellow Oh that's.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Right, mate.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Then on that note, it was starting to feel a
lot like last year, Andy, but I'll say that in
touch of it would because we haven't got talked tribery yet.
But we have been getting days with sun and they've
been cold, what have you. But the sun has been out.
We're probably a lot better off on feed covers, just
cover the dirty, you know, that sort of thing. But

(04:24):
I don't think even us scores up here if you
quite the mostly actually torn a Jordian down the south
and plains coast of the coasts, so Westers have been
given them a bit of a Harry Hard tournament.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
So when's been a real issue as well lately.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Now we too. I don't mind the wind, Andy, We
don't get a lot of it in here, and when
it does blots.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Draws a bit of stuff out.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
But it did blow light kicked here on Saturday, and
I was anticipating all that round that night. But I
nearly got eight or one million of it, so it
obviously got sent up country.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
For example, here in Gore it was cool on Saturday afternoon,
but yesterday the always had the hose house when we're
just going for a bit of a swim on the
lawn and such, because that northwister was blowing pretty good.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, that was beautiful over here to you.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I had a seven year old bid seat with his
weeks go on away to the river for a swim,
never mind the river being sill a meter high than
what it normally is.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
But he was king, he was keens. That was good. Yeah,
but it now was by me. It was real.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
You just hear the grass ground yesterday. But typical spring,
we've got all these males kicking around eating it, looking
for a bit of green stuff too after the winter.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
So how's there ming going so far?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Pretty good?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Only for the most part the mixed ages they haven't
got much cover just there.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
They sort of obviously spread out early. We're probably a
little bit light.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
On crop, but all the flats in there, so the
engine room there good country is kicking away pretty well
and all the early ones are plugging away pretty pretty good.
But like, yeah, we're sort of a lot of air
country can be classes an effective and a lot of
shelve around it. So he don't really know until the
fat lady sings, mate till you run the Italian team,

(06:00):
so what it looks for right?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
So yeah, so you're landing beats semi intensive, not so
muchural sort.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Of Cat and Scottie or Scoop and Kate double let's
as sort of things. No, they just they do sheeper,
They sheep it all the pedics that you can sheep
it comfortably. We don't pack around over the hills too much.
You create more issues and what it's worth just with
the spring with it. But anything you can do, you know,
per se hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
We do in a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Note, mate, there's not much else you can do this
on the utes to really start here and there it happens.
It's a little bit of maintenance in between times and
fences and what have you.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
But yeah, sort of help sort of seems to work.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Dawn mates, this proposal to buy into the Alliance group.
This all comes to the crunch over the next couple
of weeks.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, I think next.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Next week we start these roadshow meetings. Then then over
a way here.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I think it'll be interesting on carriage, every single shoeholder
or launce to get down and have a listening, possibly
chilling some ears. I'm not a big one on looking back, handy,
but it's probably a couple of guys still up there
that need their ears treat on a fear bit, and

(07:11):
I mean, it's not going to solve anything, mate, but
it probably might make us feel better. I'm just probably
brassed off. I don't think there's any other option, mate.
We've got to go, yes, but I'm brust off. You know,
we've stayed loyal for years and years and years and
we're getting nothing.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's been a cock up.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
To be fair, I'll say for support an independent guy.
I suppose it's got something on the line, not just
you know, check your head and get voted on and
put you hid in the trough in happy days, but
you can we've been chewing on it for any months
and we say something's got to happen.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
So we'll just wait and see.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Would you consider that, Jamie looking at a smaller processing firm? Oh?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Possibly possibly, Andy, definitely going forward as far as we're
concerning our gloves are off here, you know, I just yeah,
we've sacrificed a lot of money over the last few
years by staying a little bit loyal, and we have
got nothing better apart from a failed co op, have we?
So I just think co op model with you know,

(08:18):
there's obviously one quite successful one in the country, but
some of these smaller ones have they just got two
fat mate, you know, and arguably there's a f company
too that I would put them in the same boat.
Look at Farman's, look at them more, and I just
don't think it's I don't think it's the future anymore.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
So we'll wait and see.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
And there's a group still pretty keen on maintaining the
under percent coopertive iron model, but it just comes with
a lot of capital, mate, and I mean the remix
SI there hasn't got a lot of capital just into
the environment. It might do another couple of years if
we if we these procureing bettles, but only be a
couple of years and they won't have a market, so yeah,

(08:57):
yeah it'll be interesting. It's weren't for a good couple
years on a bit or just you know, you can
look after number one now, I think, and not so
much worry about the well, you just worry about the
bigger picture. But there's only so much we can do.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Wasn't he talking about the bigger picture? The Stags need
to look at the bigger picture. After the last two
or three.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Games, Oh mate, I just.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
I think them a bit of boy a pole that
we have ment halls and manic loys, don't we And
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Hopefully we've a rock bottom but.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, there's a few few This is gone around thee.
There's just there's some clever play on there. Hopefully they
will sit down and watch the The Woman's Rugby on
said admittedly we did lose that and Kenneda were the
vast superior team, but it was good seat piece break
advantage line rugby mate, and it was actually the ball
stayed in hands a lot more than it was in

(09:46):
the year as well, so we just yeah, we won't
we won't go there, Andy. It's been a whole month
for freaking rugby on the Hollway actually, but.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Hell, the one real good news story in rugby, you
can't deny this as well a Tiger doing the damage
over Canterbury and raising the ghosts of nineteen ninety four
on Lancaster Park when they had everything won but the
points on the school board in that game in the
last minute.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Oh yeah, no, it was awesome. More only caught the
last few minutes, but that's that. Renfer Early is a
great challenge this year. It's just it's traveled around the
country and that's what's all about it. It's probably kept
us all more some beast than their NPC, you know,
amongst trials and tribulations.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
But now it was really it was really good.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
It was.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
It was good to see and it's doing doing some
laps and that's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Well, hold on to your hat, Jamie. There's two possible
challenges left for the year. North Harbor's winless but they
go to for South Bar this weekend to play a
targo and if it's a big if Harbor wins in
case he's got the final challenge.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, a little bit interesting like that, staggling.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I mean Harve's had a disastrous season there or thereabouts.
They're working on a club fare club player philosophy. Arguably
they should have beaten North and they got turfed at
the final risk whistle yesterday. But like you say, the PC,
regardless of how our team's going, it's just been a
hell of a season.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Oh it has been, has been mate, Yeah, and that's
been really really really good and yeah and it's yeah,
it's what's all that. It's good rugby. And you said
to watch a few of those younger players start coming
through and parking their heads up and yeah, the future
is quite exciting, I suppose. And then yeah, that'll be interesting.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
We'll wait and see and hopefully mister Rosa can get
the job done next week, because you'll be joining his
fingernails to automation.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Can only Jamie always appreciate your time, Hey, spot on
going the d Jamie King of Lake Roko and the
Saturn Dan Farming ground Up. Thanks for sageon Dan Stock
foods here and Gore South and the MP Joseph Mooney
is up NeXT's man? Well, good, thank god, I'm sun

(11:55):
really this is the master. Joseph Mooney is MP for Southland.
Joins us as he is about to depart once again
up to Parliament for the week.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Good afternoon, Joseph. How things been?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh good?

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah, no, yeah, just planes about the board so we'll
crank through its tick as we can. But you know
it's good. We had a good week last week. We
had the food reading of the cabin bill and as
she has happened to party Maori didn't turn up, so
I was able to grab their slot. And the way
things work, it's if someone if someone hasn't spoken for

(12:28):
this slot, you know during the debate, and he's.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Tended and usually doing a debate, then.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
You can make a bid.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
And so I jumped up right at the end and
had a cracking and made the final switch on, which
was kind of nice because I had a role to
play in helping shape up that policy for the election win.
The National Party was the only party actually to campaign
or restrict in carbon farming and we worked with our
coalition and partners and landed peaceful legislation. We've now brought
some pretty stippicing restrictions around carbon farming, which is good policy.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Going forwards, all this.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Talk around wind farms, carbon farming and the likes.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I know you probably not can't say too much if anything, really,
but nuclear power is an option for heating and the likes.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Would that be considered?

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Oh look, I don't think it's it's on the work planning,
to be fair. I hope seen he's on first mate,
some comments at the conference around nuclear I mean, we
we are, we are in a point in world history
where we need more energy, and absolutely we need more energy,
and I think you know, we should be looking at
oh rafter things solo when we need that base load energy,

(13:36):
which is really important. So you know that's coal, it's water, geothermal,
you name it. You know, we need we need energy.
Energy is the single biggest predictive where their economy is
going to work well. They even have an impact on
lifespan because the cost of energy has an impact on
everything else and and and so it's energy is hugely important.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Is nuclear realistic option for New Island? I mean the
nineteen eighties was a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Oh, well, the new nuclear is an interesting one, right
because Innest Rutherford was the was the guy really who
split the end of boy and but yeah, you could
say it's a bit of an accident history. Apparently the
Prime Minister at the time when he's reading his notes
was supposed to rule out nuclear you know the end
he ruled out nuclear full stop. But that was a

(14:26):
speech and you can my Primislake to go back on
what they've said. Well there's my there's my call at
a bit of get moving on that. But but the
shortest feet of it is that's there's not a not
a cently, not something that the government's currently looking at.
But New Zealand is I.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Think, okay, we'll get this through very quickly for you, Joan.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Now, the contract for the impatient building in Dneden Hospital
that's got signed off recently.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, mate, yep.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
No. I drove down Tonedon on Friday and I was
there to witness that, which is a big moment for
the South. Finally, after all these years, we've got to
the where we can sign off the final contract to
build the in patient building the hospital. So that's going
to build it to its full size, So it's going
to have scope to expand and grow over the years

(15:11):
as needed for the services for the border.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
South Weens is due to start construction as such.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Construct is going to start pretty soon I think, and
we'll start seeing cranes coming out of the sky. Next
year we'll start going to the sky. So yeah, people
will start seeing some real action.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Which is awesome.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
So what's to go to Parliament this week apart from
gloating about your region or your constituency actually holding the
shield twice in one year.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, well it's awesome. Actually, actually we don't stually
hear Parliament this week, but I'm have to heat up
for something else. But it's awesome that we've had the
shield both in Southend and now the Targo. So we're
the ribbons hitting above us weight and the economy in
the economic teams and it's also hitting above this weight
and the shield. And it's that's my final cause, I better,

(16:01):
I better God.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Always got to catch up them. It's that flight.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Joseph Mooney and beef for Southland. That's one thing about
being a member of Parliament. You're always here, there or
going somewhere else. So always got to catch up with
Joseph as we do. We're going from Queenshownd Airport to Wyndham.
Next we are catching up with Ben Dooley.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
The Masters on the.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Farm brought to you by Southland District Council working together
for a better Southland. Ben Dooley farms just out of
Wyndham with his wife Sarah, Sheep beef and YouTube farmer
Dell's good.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Afternoon, here's a going not bad. How's everything? How's the
lambing beeet?

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Yeah, she's pretty challic this morning she talk about me
being a YouTube farmer. All went out with all the
best intentions this morning to film a video and we've
got to the second petduck and I just put the
camera in the box and left it behind because I
reckon I had about twenty percent of we used lamb overnight,
so there were just young lambs everywhere. Not a bad
thing because she's a good day to day, but yeah,

(17:12):
but chaotic trying to get around the paicks.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Hell, heavily stocked of the peddis.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
I think her average is about fifteen or sixteen years
to the heat there, so probably getting up there aly.
But and on that the old covers, we had reasonably
good covers over most of the farm and we spread out,
but we certainly seem to be getting caught up, so
a bit of growth would be nice. But yeah, the
old Yeah, he got that many young lambs and every
peeddock and it's just, yeah, you don't know where to go.
Everywhere is just an explosion.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
So is it a shamuzzle or just to organize chaos.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Somewhere in between us? There was a bit of There
was a bit of putting young lambs back with their
mums and stuff. Well, the mixtage us are pretty good,
but yeah, the old TURNI this this morning. There was
there was a wee bit of chaos there. One one
had decided she's going to have one lamb over here
and one lamb over here, and then she's going to
go pinched to others. And I don't know where their
mothers are, but yeah, she's in the mothering on box
with one that I think is hers, and then the

(18:03):
other three in our pets.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Do you mark your twins or you gave that up
years ago?

Speaker 7 (18:08):
No, dead and Frank did it for about half a
lemming when it first become a thing. They decided that's
a really bad or did many many years ago. So
I haven't carried on with that, and there's yeah, a
few people around I know that we're doing it are
sort of realizing it's a hell of a lot of
work for the game that they get and dropping it off.
So no, I don't think that's something I'll be done.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
That's a hell of a lot of lambs overnight when
you think about twenty percent of your use of land.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
Yeah, in one go, I've never seen it quite like that.
Possibly we have caught big synchronization as she's being surrounded
by stud breeders and it's always a thing and it
tends to be the mixtage us go really in the
two D score lake. But they're both maybe hitting right
in the middle week this year. And yeah, it was
certainly a bit of a shock this morning, But like
I say, they're just a bit all alive. Most of

(18:55):
the twin yees running around have two lambs, so at
this stage we won't complain.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Ground conditions are holding up.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Were a bit dad, Yeah, No, they're they're good now.
Certainly what we official start out was the twelfth, the
earliest did the full circle before that, and there was
plenty of waterline around early on, that's for sure, especially
some of the flatter pedics that were grazed a bit later.
We've got one pedicy out oh up the other side
of the river, abe seen that was in crop. And
those are three the grass pedic at the end. So
just stop going back and forward across it and track

(19:23):
just taking by legit and stuff. It certainly got quite weak,
and there was a few gully floors and stuff that
were pretty bloody muddy there for a while. But at
the moment things are Things are good, which is good
because the forecast next week's looking a bit average. But yeah,
hopefully most of it gets away.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Every blader grass counts at this time of year, of.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
Surprise, Oh it does, There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
So it's just pretty much September being September, just a
fetive you years lamed and one hits exactly.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
That's one, yeah, and I mean how to be feared
probably his or I shouldn't say this is a few
of the guys that had big, big numbers of lambs
or used laming that first week, they might not have
thought it felt like a normal September, but certainly we
had a good run of weather for a week or
so and a bit of rough weather either side of
that for us is probably probably sounding like a normal September,
isn't it.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
You were telling me as well, you want to talk
about your theory around triplets.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
Well, it's a very very immature theory at the moment.
But yeah, look, we've always struggled with triplets. We've tried
over the past. We used to feed them, you know,
get them out of scanning and would feed them to
on the grams of sheepnuts every day or even more
the whole way through to spreading out, and or they'd
have everything thrown at them, and we just have massive
new death reats and not great lamb survival either. They've

(20:38):
never lambed better than twins as far as a scanning
tailing percentage goes. So this year what we thought, we
sort of knew we didn't have the grass around to
to really treat them like that. And then we've dropped
the sheetnuts off the last few years because and that
has definitely seen a big reduction and new deaths. We
were just taking them too far. But the lamb numbers

(21:00):
have still been pretty dismal and well just not as
good as the twins. And what we often find is
you leave three lambs on a you. The ones that
have one diet birth or you know, within the first
few years normally rear two lambs. The ones that rear
three lambs, even even past tailing sometimes but get towards tailing,
they'll always have almost always have lost one and quite

(21:23):
often you'll find they've lost two. They just they're just
not getting enough colostrum, they're not getting enough milk. So
this year we thought we'd try something different for a laugh.
It was a bit of a spur at the moment thing,
and we thought, well, it won't be every single one,
but we'll try and pul a lamb off just to
be at every triple at you this year and see
what happens. And yeah, of course that means you've got

(21:43):
to do something with those lambs. It looks like it's
where I can get in the padic at the moment
most of you have. There's a few with one that nasty.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Whether at the.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Beginning of this of the of lambing was that took
out a few, but yeah, so then we said, oh, well,
what are we going to do with them now? So
we started feeding, just bottle feeding feeders and you know,
three four times a day, and it wasn't going to work.
It was going to send us all crazy. So went
down to see some people down talking to we want
a heck away who had an ad lib system going,

(22:12):
and yeah, Sarah talked to them away a bit and
found out that they don't actually drink much more milk,
and they just they don't get the big bloated gatters,
and they just they're very settled. And we thought, oh well,
we'll give it a go. So bought a couple of
feeders thirty two four thirty tight and fifteen teat or
something and started pouring milk and getting them on to
the feeders. And I'll go a bit. It's actually worked

(22:33):
really really well. It was about in the seventy r
eighty lambs in there at the moment, and you walk
up to the shed and the way junior pen where
you're still feeding them full times a day. It's a
bit noisy, but the rest of them just sort of
look at you. They're sitting there with full tummies, not
massive full tummies, but they're full, and they just go
out to the feeder every once in a blue moon
and take ad or ten sucks and then walk away.

(22:55):
And yeah, it's it's been quite impressive seeing it works,
So keeping it on the economics of it this year,
but if it works, it might be something we carry
on doing into the future.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
So it's a heat wave milk warmer they're using.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
No, no, we were actually just doing it all on
cold milk. Obviously that the wee juniors that are getting
bottle feed they are on warm milk. But one thing
we found both the place we went or here to
have a look at and online was that if you
don't ed libfeed them, you actually want cold milk because
it stops and gorging themselves. And from what we've seen
so far, there is quite a bit of truth to that.

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So yeah, just simply mixing buckets and tipping it in
a feeder and walking away.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Hey, Deyls, at this time of year, a lot of
farmers going to a lambing bed. But you've got a
bed there that's reminiscent.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Of the Julius Caesar time. So what do you do
at lambing time?

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Do you like peroxide here, shavy here, or something radical
like that just to get through the season.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
No, my bed is.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Basically I need it over winter. You know, I'd love
wearing shorts and I don't not wearing face masks or anything.
So the bear does the job there. Basically, the gist
of it is, I will get to a point in
spring or summer and we'll be doing something in the
yards and I'll go, this is ridiculous. This is just
getting way too hot, and that night it comes off

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right to the skin.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Normally, I suppose if your bed there, you'll get two
feeds of soup.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah, it does get a bit scruffy. You do try
to keep it tidy around the mouth a wee bit,
but yeah, trim it up a wee bit around there,
but yeah, No, it certainly serves its purpose and seasons
less sense for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Good on your beam. We'll let you carry on. Always
appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
That cheers any.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Ben Dooley, it's got it all.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Going on today twenty percent of his used land overnight
for goodness sake away to Riversdale. Next we're catching it
with Mac Dylan Plow. I'm an extraordinary, it says the

(25:05):
muster One hacker. Noie, Mark Dylan Plow, I'm an extraordinaire.
He's just returned from his second trip in as many
years over to the World Plowing Champs. In Europe last
year it was Estonia, this year Prague at the Czech Republic.
He's just returned and telling it's all about how it
all unfolded from his perspective as we caught up with
Bob two or three weeks ago. Now just in the

(25:25):
lead up to the event, Bob, good afternoon and welcome back.
Does it seem like a bit of a blur, a
bit of a memory now that a couple of weeks
have passed.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I was still preclaying a lot of things through my
head what I've could have done different? But yeah, just
beckon to work. So it's a wee bit of a blur.
But no, it was a good trip.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Really enjoyed it because we spoke to your mark and
you were talking about the different soil types and the
moisture and everything. You want to be on your side
as far as a plot draw and you say you're
replaying things you do differently.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
But what would you do differently? In hindsight, I suppose no.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
I was not much Maybe runers he did different chees
about The only other thing we could have done different
was much eight on the players. I could have had
a bit frustrating on the Stubble Day with the wheel
marks with a combines and the sprow probably not then boys,
but with the sprays and bulk he's run were extremely
had And on my crown on my Stubble Day the
player right out of ground three times, which is very
hard to get a uniform, but it's not on the ground.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
So when you're doing the plot draw you talked last
time that it was pretty pivotal for the day.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
What did you get?

Speaker 5 (26:23):
How that pan out as far as level? And I
thought that the plot was probably as good as it
is it any in the Pettitt But it's just a
whether I struck a habit or what. It was just
luck of the drawer. But the wheel of Marx works
extremely hard until he got down to full depth and
the heat under them, just with when you're doing the
Crown g when you're not at full deep. And I've
been party playing different scenarios what I could have done,
but I don't know first much really, And then also

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in the Stubble Day there was a whole of extraw
to contain with as well, which is sort of challenging
just trying to get the player running a hundred percent
to be the straw and that sucked up a bit
extra times, so they're going to come through to my finish.
I was just toad enough on home and didn't get
caught everything see here I wanted? So is it was?
I was went over fifty seconds over time, which cost
me penalty points, but not as many as some people

(27:06):
of the poor going next to me. He was a
team minute service that it's fifty fourte lot cheaper.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Does it seem like it's a bit unfair how everybody's
got uneven fields? Quite a phrase or whatever you want?
There a pun perhaps that you're having to contend with
different conditions or is that the uniqueness of it?

Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, I suppose that's a unique neatness of it. And
then there's the lucky to draw on those plots, and
then I suppose that the skill of the guy that's
in the seat, and there's the best ability to deal
with the veering souls on the day.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
So, Estonia last year, Czech Republic this year, what was
the major difference for you?

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Did different? Suppose it was drawer this year, which everything's
just more challenging when it's drawer or the it's getting
the play out of respond the way we're we're grounds freer.
It's not everything's just running smooth. Where it's hard, it's
everything sort of parting or game be fording against itself
to keep it in. We have a lot of issues
in the practice days being in colder stalks and Benie
skimmer arms just was the grand conditions has been too

(28:03):
hard and we ended up coursing a never seat of
adjustable colders out of Ireland which day and he turned
up a couple of days before the official competition, So
just as different challenges we to deal with on the day.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Has Homan bandage such a thing in these events?

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I would think so?

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Jeez, I know this all early post to play on
this ground read here since I was a kid. So
you've got a fear ordea what it's like and what
do you expect and how much rain will affect to
different things. Prior to the competition over there, we did
thirty four thirty sixty three days in not a lot
of rain, but then much. Ye there's one night there
with fifty mils of around and it changed things dramatically.
So just to show we didn't get another fifty or

(28:42):
sixty milis and put us off.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And everything yet so Is that a case of daily
with apprecire When you're saying the competitive beside you win
over time, I mean it must play if your top
three inches quite badly.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, and yeah it's he was pretty aubssete with himself
and did he did see what it's going to remember
the next day? That tomorrow is another day. So I
suppose you want to study grass plot the Photiusta starting
the plane slide here, you don't worry about with it
in the day before and under the best and pay tody.
I thought it was a pretty toidy plot in the grass.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well well, to be fair, though, the average plowman to
what you're doing over there, the crim dollar cream of
the plowing world. Do you say there's no weaknesses when
it camps are doing a Pharaoh.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
No, everything's got to be perfect, and then there's not perfect,
devil to judge pick it up and they cost your
points and yeah, in each mitual to the end.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Right, you've got to get your pat You've got to
get your machinery home. Is that right?

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Yes, it's been a bit of an issue. I've had
a bit of a challenge here. The can sort of explored.
I'm not sure it was the break down to communications
something but the well in and chain for commerce someone
slipped up anyway, and so there's been a bit of
a rigobole getting that sorder, but just a bit. I've
got the PaperWorks order now and the contain is due
to get on this play home.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
So are you going to take it over for next
year or are you just going to borrow somebody's gear
as such that I mean, I definitely to use your
own gear.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
So you bring it home. We've got to quite a
few modifications I want to do and change it put
to pieces on the plane. So good at home, and
I hope you it's home before Christmas. And they've give me,
i know, three or four months to get it. I'm
all's done. I want before this year's Nationals up in
Mething in April.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Are you going in the nationals next year? Because I
think I remember you saying, I think it's Kenya the
year after next. You're going to give it a mess
because the world's are happening on your backs door step
following Yeah, Well, I've.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
Been talking to one of my plate fellow club members
down here and we're here. Well, while we're up at
the top of the top of the game. I think
we need to keep edit and this is someone ox
us off their part, so I'm not sure how we're
going to manage it away around things.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
So not only do you have an au passport, you're
going to be trying for a Kenyan passport as well.
And on that bard does a nobody were off going
over to Europort. You just enjoy it and embrace the moment.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
That I don't don't enjoy the planet to a sort
of it. The I don't sleep well on plane, so
I think we came home and it's forty four as
fly and told me a trainsfers and stuff like that
with about four of air slip, so the deeply except
for a few days to get caught back up on it.
And really I don't think I'm just just one hundred
yet because we're as full fourteen years out different to
what we were, and we're in Prague as well. Yeah,

(31:08):
any days that'll help.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
And you were just we talked about this last time
as well, plowing on the outskirts of Prague of a
major city airport wasn't too far away like planes going
overhead and the likes, hey, are you just zoned in?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
How do you zone in for an event like this,
I suppose.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Oh you just need going to concentrate and block everything
else out and just concentrate on the task at hen
really so.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
The camaraderie obviously recid of as competitors like yourselves.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You're getting to know a few people pretty good.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Yeah, it made a lot of make We caught up
with a lot of people were new and then caught
up and made made a few new friends at well,
which was awesome. So yeah, you had a lot of
guys talking to them at the where we were planning
on hosting over here is going to be working out
well for them. It's sort of in between seasons like
August sort of is perhaps as well, so that they
know there's Yes, she had a message from a go
in Scotland. So I met or Estonia last year just

(31:57):
just quizzing me on when the dates are going to
be and stuff like it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
So give an example of what's going to happen at
Riversdale at the World Champs in twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
What can people expect? Is it twenty nine?

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, there's twenty nine, yep, twenty nine. Yeah, the town
will be singing, There'll be a lot of people I
would expect. I don't know what would get I think
in Messing they had fifty days and I don't if
we're quite get the media here. It would be nice
to think that. Yep, things they'll be singing to be
people every year and be a lot of different people
from all over the world. Yeah, a lot of people
supporting them as well. A lot of people said they're

(32:26):
going to get you. Look local pod companies, you're onto
it just sort of on their back list and it's
a long way to go, so they want to come
over here and have a good look brand.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's a fair few Home and School Committee's doing lunchers.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Oh yeah, there's going to be a lot of the
file and effects for local fundraisers and all the other
head arms and accommodation and everything's going to be huge.
It's going to be a real good thing for the district.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Now, just tell us about the local plowing scene, Bob,
anybody that's interested.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
What's it like in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, just a new zeale yirs way Mere where you're based.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah, there's a we just got a club as well.
We're there's not that many player in suppose myself and
Murray and then then more boys will started playing them
and if you as well, and there's a few vendors
cars as well. Son, I suppose we'd have six or
seven active plowman I suppose in the group in the
club odes Holish hosts. Sorry, just you have an annual
player match every year which we try a toyism with

(33:16):
the Vendors club, so we have a weekend of it
and always come down from all over South London ontargo
and it gives you a good follow from from Kennerby.
Come down to sport amnsions as well.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Hay Goo on your Bible, believe it there.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Always appreciate your time and once again congratulations. There's no
mean fate going over to Europe for the World Champs.
Are plowing like you do.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You got next year?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
It sounds as though you've got the yet you want
to get a kended too, So all the best and
we'll speak in due course.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Awesome, Thanks Andy, Marc Dylan play I'm an extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Before we wrap up for a Monday afternoon, we catch
up with Logan Savory out of the Southern Tribune. I
think we need to talk some rugby. Welcome back to
the Muster the music has Ride Stewart. The song is
do you think on Sex? So in reality it should

(34:07):
be Roning Keating's life is a roller coaster, especially if
you're a Stags rugby fan.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
After the highs of about three weeks.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Ago winning the Ramfrely Shield, all of a sudden it's
all gone Peaked Hong, It's all gone the other way.
Logan Savrey's on the line from the South and Troviune
to try and dissect what the hell is going on
with the Stags at the moment, Sam good Afternoon. Three
weeks on the Stags have conceded about one hundred and
eighty odd points, scored about forty odd.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
It's not a pretty picture.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
No, We've had the highs in the last of loads
and sports. That's all in the space of three weeks.
I've said to a lot of people when we eat
my ketto to win the shield, that was one of
the better performances I've seen from the South and thing
given the conditions, what was at stake, the way they defended,
and then as I said, in the conditions to get

(34:56):
the job done on attack as well.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
To go from that.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
To what I thought and that the Canterbury game was disappointing.
Obviously just got bullied in that game, but the County's
game really stood out, got sixty odd points put around
on one of the worst performances I've probably seen. That
Wellington game felt like it was probably brewing and unfortunately
that's three pretty security losses on the trot there.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
But how can it go so.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Wrong in the matter of a couple of weeks effectively
one hundred what are we two hundred and forty minutes
of rugby and they've all been as atrocious as each other.
You can understand Canterbury, yes, have the hangover having this shield.
There's a bit of grace there the counties and Wellington
at the weekend. Yes, Wellington had all weeks as well
other things in the equation, but there's no way and
how there are seventy five side against us, No.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
That's right for whatever reasons they getting split up the
middle and defensively and what was their strength and those
ones over bar plenty and what Kado has now turned
into a weakness defense sively look to be honest, I
think the two guys that carried the two only two guys,

(36:08):
but two of the key guys that carried the team
and that those ones that have a bay of plenty
or even before that man or two and then she'll win.
While Kado were obviously SAMESSI two po toy lower and
Feller to a penny, and I think in particular without
SUBMISSI two po ty low against Wellington, we were exposed.
He does so much defensively and then on tack gets

(36:31):
them across the line and unfortunately the other guys didn't
fill their avoid and we're exposed. Look there, Wellington All
Blacks played very well as well. Wasn't the case when
the Workado had the All Blacks Kyle Preston I thought
was outstanding. But saying that South and let him run
and dictate terms. So look, really disappointing to be for you.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Is it a coaching issue with the Stags perhaps?

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Look, I mean I'm not inside the camp well well enough,
but I would I wouldn't think. Look, I think there's
some there's some good work being Dan Scott. He did
a really good job defensively as a defense new defense coach.
Initially Obviously things have changed there. Can you put that
all down to the coaching when they when he did

(37:21):
such a good job defensively, there attack wise, it's James
Wilson's in charge of that. They've showed glimpses, but only
obviously in the last few weeks scored forty one points.
Nathan White, I don't know him well enough, but there's
some some pretty good raps of what he did under
the tutelage of Steve Hans and then and Ian Foster

(37:43):
at Toyota a Blitz. So I think it'd be a
bit cool just to put.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
It down the coaching because arguably this is going back
to the days of nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine, ninety eight,
they won a couple of games at the start, then
it all went down hill.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Ninety nine they had to draw against the Targo and
that was the lot for the year.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Yeah, I think not, you're right. I mean that ninety
eighth season was absolutely terrible, but they were terrible light
throughout that season. What the frustrating thing is this season
is they've shown glimpses with those three games in arraw
that they won that first half against ment or two,
we've probably got a bit of an indicator that when
they're not on on, But to go from what they've

(38:25):
what they've managed to do in those three games that
show some real defensive resolve. But then what we're what's
played out in the last three games. That's the biggest
concerning thing is that they're not just terrible across the board.
They've showed glimpses of what they can do, but for
whatever reasons, they're not able to back that up week

(38:48):
in week out. They've obviously had a bit of their
depth exposed. You know, I look at like like Sean
with he who's playing big minutes, playing week in week out.
In an ideal world, he probably wouldn't be playing eighty
minutes every week, but he just needs to at the moment.
He's going to have to continue to probably for the

(39:09):
last two games as well. Now, yeah, look, there's plenty
of many of problems.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
The irony being with the way the Renfrelly Shell Renfree
Shields play musical chairs. If Harbor gets up this week
and Lorth Harbor has been terrible this year, the bottom
of the table with the Donut if they will be
the target the Stags yet the last challenge, it's the
irony of this whole competition, which on a whole let's
be honest, the NPC has been harder to pack than
a broken nose, which has been brilliant.

Speaker 8 (39:36):
Oh, it's been a great competition. I absolutely love this
year's competition. Obviously the last three weeks as a as
a stage fan has been a little painful, but in
general the competition has been great and looks often did
play their partner too when they won those three games
in a round and included the shield. That was a
talk of the competition there for a bit, but generally

(39:56):
the fact that in a sports competition you want team
you want to front up each week knowing or not
knowing who's going to win a game, and there's a
lot of that across the board and I think that's
that's brilliant basically to say. But I've been one of
the real standout stories of this at this season what

(40:17):
what they've done. They've really struggled in recent years, but
they've just turned the turned the corner there playing some
really good rugby, got a bit of good a bit
of resolve about them, and bathfully deserve that. VI true
the other day and the glory of of around fairly
shield one.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, Targo is taking all the boxes at the moment,
kind of against the grain because they've had some lean
years as well, truth be known. But this year everything's
just coming up Milhouse for them.

Speaker 8 (40:42):
Yeah, they've got some guys there that we're probably finding
their feet at NPC level and previous previous years that
are starting to stand up. I've obviously got some good
leaders in that team, Sam Gill, but you know that
I've got a new coach that's obviously doing a good
job and mark around and I've found a bit of

(41:03):
a breakout star on Lucas Casey on the on the
flank there, who's who's sort of taken the competition by
storm and has couple of tries on the in the
Renfallly Shell wind will go down in history.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Now, good on your say, I've always appreciate your time,
and Antler's up for Friday.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
We need all the help we can give them. Why not.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Hey, look, we haven't got a hand on the Clark
during with the cap which has been played for over
the last few years. So let's just uh, let's just
spring across for an absolute upset and get the job done.
This's Friday night.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Get on your say, I appreciate your time as always.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
Thanks, thank.

Speaker 8 (41:41):
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