September 28, 2025 • 8 mins
Paul Allison looks back on a successful to date NPC for Otago, but he asks what has happened to the Stags?
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Before we catch up with Paul Allison. A notice through
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(00:29):
few more details around there. Paul Allison, good afternoon and
welcome to the muster once again. You're based in the
Need and a targo. Geez. You're doing pretty good in
the NPC.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, four in a row for Otago, which is almost
unheard of. In fact, they've only lost one on the
last seven, which is and that was a last minute
try that they conceded against Tasman. So Otago you're flying
high at the moment. Things can change pretty quickly as
we know, but at least us to cure at a
home quarter final, likely to get a home semi final
if they win the quarter and probably their best year
(01:02):
in decades. I mean they last won the RAND, they
last won the Ranfordy Shield five years ago and then
they or six years ago, and then they last won
the MPC way back in nineteen ninety eight, so a
long time between drinks and let's not get ahead of ourselves.
But the fact is that they are going well this year.
They've got some momentum and they haven't sort of lost
(01:23):
their way and got away with the giddy heights of
beating Canterbury in the Shield game last week. They're able
to hang on to it for more than a week
and lock it away for the summer, which they don't
do very often. In fact, when they normally win the Shield,
they don't have it over the summer months. They did
back in nineteen but it's been a long time since then,
and so yeah, it's good news for Otaga, not so
(01:43):
good news for South. And when I look at the
results they've had in the last four weeks, concening fifty
four points against Cannery and sixty four against Counties manecow
on seventy five against Wellington, and mind you they cut
it back of it. It was only fifty five against Tasman
and most of those were in the first half. So
I'm not I'm right sure what's going on in the
Deep South, but they certainly are not the same team
(02:04):
that won the shield just five weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, we're talking about that in a minute for the MTC.
Look Canterbury and Northland. Yesterday it was a draw ninety
minutes of rugby the MTC this year. We talked about
it before, but there seems to be a lot more
by and because the results are changing, the shields changed
hand as often as it has, it's just got people's
interests back in the into the occasion again, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It has in Auckland. I'm not going to make the
top eight as well, So that's not too bad for
some of us in the Deep South, is it? Yeah?
Look at is very interesting. It's a topsy turvy competition
where you really don't know who's going to win each week,
which I think is part of the excitement, part of
the local parochial pride that you get from hometown rugby
(02:47):
fans and the fact that you still don't really know
who's going to make the top eight. And as you say,
in Lathland, who were battling on the cusp of the
top eight, they're just sitting in eighth place at the moment,
a couple of points ahead as County's Monacah but that
draw Hardport one against Canterbury yesterday and going into extra
time had looked for all the world like Canterbury, We're
going to score in that extra time, but great defense
(03:08):
from both teams and so yeah, pretty much sums up
the competition. We don't know what's going to happen. But
like Forrest Gump of the Box of Chocolate stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mark Kelly the Country Sport Breakfast called me out this
morning and they had chat before I had a yun
to BK saying that I was just a grumpy bugger
and if he had the option for buyer plant in
Heaven every year, but to hold the shield for a week,
he'd take it. I don't know just the bigger ramifications
what's going on with the Stag though. Do we just
need to accept that we've won three games, possibly going
to win a fourth, and we've had the shield. Do
(03:37):
you still call it a success amongst everything else going on?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, I guess you're in a better position to answer
that sort of being in the middle and the heart
of Southland. What I would say is that if you
go back last year to the MPC, that's a very
similar to the record to what Southland had they won three,
lost seven, finished twelfth. This year they are lost six,
(04:01):
sitting thirteenth. So there's not a lot of difference from
where they were from one year to another in terms
of the table. But they got away to such a
promising start this year and it's been the collapse in
the last four weeks which I think will be raising
eyebrows and creating a bit of concern and conceding so
many points short. They played really well on the second
half against Tasman, came back and won that on the
(04:23):
points in terms of the number of points scored in
that second forty minutes. But you can't let teams get
away like that, and there has to be some question
mark asked around commitment and defense. I guess when you
can see an average of sixty two points in the
last four matches you play, we'll.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Talk about the ull Blacks, but the depth they have
a half back now, cam Roygard outstanding on Saturday as
we've seen. But Dylan, please you tell us a bit
more about Dylan because this guy is really going is
his stocks are really rising and quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, he's a promising young player, there's no doubt about that.
Twenty years of age, made his debut for Otago last year.
His vice captain of the New Zealand under twenties and
he has been on that side for two years. And
he's just someone that does the basics really well. His
passing is accurate, he doesn't hesitate, he seems to read
a game really well. He's got a nice little running
(05:13):
style about him. He's got a bit of a David
Kirk look to him. But I just think he's got
all the skills that are halfback needs and he does
those those basic functions really well. Is kicking game is
quite He doesn't use it very much, which I like
to see, but when he does use it, he's very accurate.
He runs with pace. He's decision making under pressure is
(05:35):
just outstanding. And he's a young man who I think
could well be in the higher honors before the year
is out. I'm not saying All Blacks, but I understand
the All Black fifteen are playing at the end of
the year as well, and I wouldn't be surprised. I
think they play the Barbarians in the UK. It wouldn't
be surprised if he is in line for that because
there's been big racks on this young man he's just
got to protect them and nurture them and don't throw
(05:56):
them into the lions then too early. But he's got
all the trappings of being o I think not only
an all Black, but a damn good one and used
to come.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So what does this mean for the Highlanders for twenty
twenty six pool? Based on what we've seen in the MPC.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Oh hard to know how quickly that or how slowly
that translates. We're often seen many of the Hardenless players
playing in Super rugby for Otago. They've been riddled with
Super rugby players in the past and they haven't performed.
They've had a change of coach this year. Mark Brown's
came in former Canterbury co coach for a couple of
seasons and also the assistant coach for a couple of years,
(06:31):
and he coached the under nineteen so he's got good
coaching category. He's saying that a lot of the players
in the Otago team are now a year older, a
year more mature, and a year more settled. I actually
think he's got to take a lot of the credit himself.
He seems to have got an environment where the team
is performing so consistently well, not world beaters, but they're
just doing the basics right. Games that they used to
(06:53):
lose in the past are now winning. And the fact
that they won the Ranfurly Shield just nine days ago,
and then they came home on the sat On Sunday morning,
they had lunch together at a local hotel and then
they went and saw the Otago women play in the
afternoon and they gave themselves one hour only to start
(07:14):
later the following day, and so they had their feet
on the ground all the way through. I think he's
just bought a really common sense approach to things and
so that's refreshing and it's coming through. On terms of
the field, you've got guys likes of Lucas Casey, who
a lot of people are talking about as an open
side flanker. He's now joined the Heardlands Wider squad for
next year and he's been linked in for twenty twenty seven.
So I guess it's early days. But as we know,
(07:37):
the one thing you can't have in the Heartland, Otago
or Southlands a lot of injuries because if you do,
your depth of squad isn't the same as what it
is in some of the other provinces which have more riches.
So this year Otago have not really been hit badly
with injuries at all and have been able to keep
a really consistent look to it. And I guess that's
what the heartlands look for as well, because they are
trying to build a death of squad. But in some
(07:58):
positions if they get a couple of key players injured
very early in the season, that makes it pretty tough
at the back end.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Good on your poor Ellison. Always appreciate your time in
your commentaries on gold.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Sport Go Well, yeah, appreciate that. And here's a little
pick for you as well. I think the All Blacks
might slip on the banana skin and Perth next week.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh, laugh out loud with ag proud, because life on
the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
by sheer Well Data working to help the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Sad news from the Nesle factory a night shift Wherecker
was crushed beneath a case of chocolate that found twenty
feet off the storage track. He called for help repeatedly,
but every time he shouted the milky bars are on me,
because colleagues just cheered. I believe it there for the
afternoon thanks to your company.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm Andy Mioe.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You've been listening to the Muster on Hakanui thanks to
Peterson Nix Joy the afternoon
Before we catch up with Paul Allison. A notice through
here from PGG Rights and the Taffy Limited and You're
Yealing Recorded Jersey Bull auction is now starting on Thursday,
the second of October at eleven am. So just once
again the Taffy Limited and You're Yealing Recorded Jersey Bull
oction starting on Thursday and not the Wednesday. Get in
touch of your PGG rights an agent to get a
(00:29):
few more details around there. Paul Allison, good afternoon and
welcome to the muster once again. You're based in the
Need and a targo. Geez. You're doing pretty good in
the NPC.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, four in a row for Otago, which is almost
unheard of. In fact, they've only lost one on the
last seven, which is and that was a last minute
try that they conceded against Tasman. So Otago you're flying
high at the moment. Things can change pretty quickly as
we know, but at least us to cure at a
home quarter final, likely to get a home semi final
if they win the quarter and probably their best year
(01:02):
in decades. I mean they last won the RAND, they
last won the Ranfordy Shield five years ago and then
they or six years ago, and then they last won
the MPC way back in nineteen ninety eight, so a
long time between drinks and let's not get ahead of ourselves.
But the fact is that they are going well this year.
They've got some momentum and they haven't sort of lost
(01:23):
their way and got away with the giddy heights of
beating Canterbury in the Shield game last week. They're able
to hang on to it for more than a week
and lock it away for the summer, which they don't
do very often. In fact, when they normally win the Shield,
they don't have it over the summer months. They did
back in nineteen but it's been a long time since then,
and so yeah, it's good news for Otaga, not so
(01:43):
good news for South. And when I look at the
results they've had in the last four weeks, concening fifty
four points against Cannery and sixty four against Counties manecow
on seventy five against Wellington, and mind you they cut
it back of it. It was only fifty five against Tasman
and most of those were in the first half. So
I'm not I'm right sure what's going on in the
Deep South, but they certainly are not the same team
(02:04):
that won the shield just five weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, we're talking about that in a minute for the MTC.
Look Canterbury and Northland. Yesterday it was a draw ninety
minutes of rugby the MTC this year. We talked about
it before, but there seems to be a lot more
by and because the results are changing, the shields changed
hand as often as it has, it's just got people's
interests back in the into the occasion again, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It has in Auckland. I'm not going to make the
top eight as well, So that's not too bad for
some of us in the Deep South, is it? Yeah?
Look at is very interesting. It's a topsy turvy competition
where you really don't know who's going to win each week,
which I think is part of the excitement, part of
the local parochial pride that you get from hometown rugby
(02:47):
fans and the fact that you still don't really know
who's going to make the top eight. And as you say,
in Lathland, who were battling on the cusp of the
top eight, they're just sitting in eighth place at the moment,
a couple of points ahead as County's Monacah but that
draw Hardport one against Canterbury yesterday and going into extra
time had looked for all the world like Canterbury, We're
going to score in that extra time, but great defense
(03:08):
from both teams and so yeah, pretty much sums up
the competition. We don't know what's going to happen. But
like Forrest Gump of the Box of Chocolate stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mark Kelly the Country Sport Breakfast called me out this
morning and they had chat before I had a yun
to BK saying that I was just a grumpy bugger
and if he had the option for buyer plant in
Heaven every year, but to hold the shield for a week,
he'd take it. I don't know just the bigger ramifications
what's going on with the Stag though. Do we just
need to accept that we've won three games, possibly going
to win a fourth, and we've had the shield. Do
(03:37):
you still call it a success amongst everything else going on?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, I guess you're in a better position to answer
that sort of being in the middle and the heart
of Southland. What I would say is that if you
go back last year to the MPC, that's a very
similar to the record to what Southland had they won three,
lost seven, finished twelfth. This year they are lost six,
(04:01):
sitting thirteenth. So there's not a lot of difference from
where they were from one year to another in terms
of the table. But they got away to such a
promising start this year and it's been the collapse in
the last four weeks which I think will be raising
eyebrows and creating a bit of concern and conceding so
many points short. They played really well on the second
half against Tasman, came back and won that on the
(04:23):
points in terms of the number of points scored in
that second forty minutes. But you can't let teams get
away like that, and there has to be some question
mark asked around commitment and defense. I guess when you
can see an average of sixty two points in the
last four matches you play, we'll.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Talk about the ull Blacks, but the depth they have
a half back now, cam Roygard outstanding on Saturday as
we've seen. But Dylan, please you tell us a bit
more about Dylan because this guy is really going is
his stocks are really rising and quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, he's a promising young player, there's no doubt about that.
Twenty years of age, made his debut for Otago last year.
His vice captain of the New Zealand under twenties and
he has been on that side for two years. And
he's just someone that does the basics really well. His
passing is accurate, he doesn't hesitate, he seems to read
a game really well. He's got a nice little running
(05:13):
style about him. He's got a bit of a David
Kirk look to him. But I just think he's got
all the skills that are halfback needs and he does
those those basic functions really well. Is kicking game is
quite He doesn't use it very much, which I like
to see, but when he does use it, he's very accurate.
He runs with pace. He's decision making under pressure is
(05:35):
just outstanding. And he's a young man who I think
could well be in the higher honors before the year
is out. I'm not saying All Blacks, but I understand
the All Black fifteen are playing at the end of
the year as well, and I wouldn't be surprised. I
think they play the Barbarians in the UK. It wouldn't
be surprised if he is in line for that because
there's been big racks on this young man he's just
got to protect them and nurture them and don't throw
(05:56):
them into the lions then too early. But he's got
all the trappings of being o I think not only
an all Black, but a damn good one and used
to come.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So what does this mean for the Highlanders for twenty
twenty six pool? Based on what we've seen in the MPC.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Oh hard to know how quickly that or how slowly
that translates. We're often seen many of the Hardenless players
playing in Super rugby for Otago. They've been riddled with
Super rugby players in the past and they haven't performed.
They've had a change of coach this year. Mark Brown's
came in former Canterbury co coach for a couple of
seasons and also the assistant coach for a couple of years,
(06:31):
and he coached the under nineteen so he's got good
coaching category. He's saying that a lot of the players
in the Otago team are now a year older, a
year more mature, and a year more settled. I actually
think he's got to take a lot of the credit himself.
He seems to have got an environment where the team
is performing so consistently well, not world beaters, but they're
just doing the basics right. Games that they used to
(06:53):
lose in the past are now winning. And the fact
that they won the Ranfurly Shield just nine days ago,
and then they came home on the sat On Sunday morning,
they had lunch together at a local hotel and then
they went and saw the Otago women play in the
afternoon and they gave themselves one hour only to start
(07:14):
later the following day, and so they had their feet
on the ground all the way through. I think he's
just bought a really common sense approach to things and
so that's refreshing and it's coming through. On terms of
the field, you've got guys likes of Lucas Casey, who
a lot of people are talking about as an open
side flanker. He's now joined the Heardlands Wider squad for
next year and he's been linked in for twenty twenty seven.
So I guess it's early days. But as we know,
(07:37):
the one thing you can't have in the Heartland, Otago
or Southlands a lot of injuries because if you do,
your depth of squad isn't the same as what it
is in some of the other provinces which have more riches.
So this year Otago have not really been hit badly
with injuries at all and have been able to keep
a really consistent look to it. And I guess that's
what the heartlands look for as well, because they are
trying to build a death of squad. But in some
(07:58):
positions if they get a couple of key players injured
very early in the season, that makes it pretty tough
at the back end.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Good on your poor Ellison. Always appreciate your time in
your commentaries on gold.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Sport Go Well, yeah, appreciate that. And here's a little
pick for you as well. I think the All Blacks
might slip on the banana skin and Perth next week.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Oh, laugh out loud with ag proud, because life on
the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
by sheer Well Data working to help the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Sad news from the Nesle factory a night shift Wherecker
was crushed beneath a case of chocolate that found twenty
feet off the storage track. He called for help repeatedly,
but every time he shouted the milky bars are on me,
because colleagues just cheered. I believe it there for the
afternoon thanks to your company.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm Andy Mioe.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You've been listening to the Muster on Hakanui thanks to
Peterson Nix Joy the afternoon
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