October 1, 2025 • 43 mins
Andy Muir talks to Matt McRae, Penny Simmonds, Fiona Young, Tom O'Brien, Jason Pine and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakini. I'm
dymo here until two o'clock. Thanks in Peterson, Nix. Welcome
along to a bluebird filled afternoon down here in the
Deep South. And how bliming good is it to actually
see some sunshine for a change. We'll talk with its shortly,
but certainly makes a mood. Yes, there was a frost
first thing, but you know it's all about context, right music.
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Matt McCrae starts us off talking about the road shows
that the Alliance Group has been involved with this week
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and giving us from his viewpoint anyway, why I met things.
There's still a lot of this that we need to
understand before we make a decision. Penny Simmons MP from
mccargill is on the program for You Only Young at
a beefle m New Zealand. Thomas O'Brien our Garston correspondent.
He's been still working on those sleepers, getting the line
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ready for the Kings and Fly to get and start
the cack off the season. And Jason Pine had a
news talk zb this situation from New Zealand Netball and
Dame Nolving Toto. It goes from bad to worse, So
we'll get Pony's take on it. Dave Morrison from PGG
Wrights and is giving us a rundown from the Charlton
sale very shortly, and then we'll start the y Hour
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with Matt McCrae. Remember Matt McCrae farms at Macharita and
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joins us this afternoon on the musta Matt Good Afternoon
it's good to see a bit of sunshine finally.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, afternoon, and it certainly is. It's been a fresby
wet and cold last month, but it's we're turning a
corner this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Since we spoke last house, things been.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We're pretty much done a you lemming now taking an
opportunity in a dry one day to get a few
week drives shut out in a way. Feed levels have
dropped quite significantly. It's just been the grossest hasn't been
there probably being a bit colder, the demand has been
slightly high, so yeah, be good to get a few
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miles away. But yeah, it's locking all right. So far.
We haven't tailed or anything yet. But there seems to
be a few more lembs about them last year, which
is a good stet.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So certainly a better situation than this time last year.
From your from your understanding.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And the neck of the words, i'd say, yeah, it
is where like this time last year, is stuggling to
drive around some of the hot paddocks from their lemons.
Certainly we've been ahead of that this year and we
have Probably the main difference is we've just had a
wee few drawing days in between, whereas last year there's nothing,
so we'll probably still tip out the same amount of rainfall.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But yeah, just looking for a good October.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
To get those used lactating well. And yes, the lembs
of a bigger winning tom would be good.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
What would your rainfall figures be so far for the
year before the month even.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Tipped out to show two twenty meals last year, but
last month I should say, but there was about seventy
meals that fell on the probably day either side of
that month. Yeah, so it's certainly well above long term average.
But yeah, we're over a meter.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Of rain for the year already, which has probably a
good hundred meals up on where we could be. But yeah,
I think July was well behind and September was well up,
so we're probably not far away to be fair, Matt.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Alliance Groove has been all the talk this week,
the road shows with the directors and Mark Win and
Willie Visa as well of course the chair and chief
executive respectively, going around the traps. I went along to
the Gore meeting, was kind of poignant that it was
just a stormy night outside as everyone setting and listened
to this proposal with Dawn meats.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it certainly was shut up to Gore as well
and listened in. And yeah, I'm certainly telling a few
calls about it the last a few days too, And yeah,
there's a lot of frustration and disappointment probably.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Two words that you could use about it.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But I guess most shareholders understand how we got here,
but pretty frustrated around yeah, the deal that's been presented
and yeah, the vision on the way forward.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I suppose there seemed to be the key word there
in the room the other night, frustration, but there was
almost people resigned to the fact that if this didn't
go through, then we're next to for alliance. But you've
got a different viewpoint.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, I do. Like I'm probably sitting on the
fence at the moment, but I don't see the Dawn
deal is actually providing a providing us a long term future,
and I guess that's what I was hoping to hear
out of those roadshow meetings. But yeah, just pumping more
money and there's nothing actually structurally that was going to
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change in terms of the way they operate or as
the industry operates, which when you yeah, we just can't
continue down the last men sending evenue and there's other
companies that are struggling as well. So what don't we
actually use this opportunity as a to create something better
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as an industry rather than just passing off the last men,
because there's probably another company from what I hear that's
not too far from being in a similar position against Yeah,
just frustrating, But the banks are probably hiding behind the
directors and what I learned in the meetings, as I've
obviously had a fear say and how we've got to
this point, So like to say a bit of leadership
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from the banking industry and maybe all these AUSSI banks
are possibly behind it, but a bit of a and
from them around helping create something where chief and beef
farming can be a little bit more positive and people
can invest in it and maybe the everage age in
that room would be a few years younger.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But if it doesn't, no vote. Is it worth thinking
about what could happen in a couple of weeks time?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I don't know. I think things have changed slightly
from when when they put the steel together a few
months ago, Like there is a wee bit more in
the coffers floating ground. But yeah, I guess i'd dislike
to see the director's enough and say that they wouldn't
wave the white flag at the first opportunity that actually
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end the banking industry too, like a lot of these
banks are banking chief and beef farmers, and even like
the dairy farmers. It's flying Carl Stock in it through
the industry. So yeah, it'd probably would be disappointed if
they did wave the white flag and it went down
that way. But maybe it needs a bigger picture approach
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than alliance. And we've obviously got a reasonable amount of
money invested in them, and the way I look at it,
either way, those shares are going to be worth very
little or nothing. So I can swallow my pride and
take that if it means that in ten or fifteen
years we're talking about. Yeah, it's some decent structural change
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in the industry, not just getting brought out by their arsh.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And the counter offer as well by the so called
way KaiA five as they have been named, talking about
voting against the door Meet's proposal but embracing an alternative
capital model proposed which they put out in a letter
to sharholders last week. Do you think that's a viable option.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I've pondered that phi the good and I have
spoke to a couple of those people that have put
it together. I guess it is one option of a
no vote, and some of it does have merit if
you look at it and a big picture of you,
But there's certainly a lot of questions come out of it.
Two and I'd like to see some of.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Those bigger shareholders that have probably.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Put some of these farmer directors in front up and
say that they would not take their volume payments and.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Through that in the kiddy too.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
There's got to be some structural changes either way this goes,
in my opinion, and yeah, we've got to see what
those actually look like, because you can't just carry on
operating the way they are. And I'd fully acknowledge that
they have made turned around in the last twelve or
eighty months and in making a profit, the will is turning.
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But for probably smaller and medium shareholders in younger ones slights,
I'd still classify myself. We probably want to see more
than that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, say it's a no vote. Matt White Chance a
knight in shining armor come striding through the door on
a stallion with another offer there to save the company.
Do you think this is realistic to think like that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's a tough one, to be fair, I'm
not confident now, but if it is a yes vote,
I think the banks and some of the previous management
get off scot free and farmers are left to swallow
the bills.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Do I think that's fairy? They're probably not, but.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I guess yeah, it will come down to there's a
lot for me, it's going to come down to a
gatfield vote, and yeah, I'm not that happy with either
option at the moment, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So when you're talking to farmers out in your neck
of the woods there down towards wonder and way, what's
the general feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Uh, Philly, Max I said earlier, it's mainly the frustration.
There's a few people vote have already sort of decided.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Which way they're going to vote, but you know, just
looking for a way bit.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
More leadership around what the medium to long term future
looks like. Like I said earlier, and it's not just
an alliance problem, it's like an industry problem. When you
walked into that or walked out of that room, and
go probably didn't fill you with confidence to be investing
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in the industry, and that's not really what I want.
I want more of a positive industry to be part
of and yeah that people want to be Yeah, I
want to be part of and make it profitable too.
So yeah, I think I think some of these other
companies are sitting back and waiting to see what is
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going to happen with Alliance and probably challenge them to
put a better offer on the table in terms of
where we're heading as an industry.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Just finally, Matte, interesting you bring that up, where we
are headed as a remat industry. Do you think this
is a chance for a bit more of a unified
approach throughout the red meat sector in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I would love to see it. Am I confident that
would happen? Probably not so much.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
There's been plenty of people that have tried in the past,
but you can't let a crisis, a good crisis, go
to waste.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Maybe it is that's probably he needs to.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Heaven at a few levels above my pay grade.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
But yeah, i'd.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Probably telling some people that are sitting back and waiting
to see where they end up. There'll be maybe an opportunity, mister,
if they don't get off the ends pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And I mentioned good on you, Matt. I always appreciate
your Time's any Matt McCrae farming at Mycareta talking about
the Alliance deal. Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo. She's
up next. Welcome back to the Master. Penny Simmons is
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MP from the Cargo. She is Minister for the Environment
amongst other portfolios. Penny, good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
It's good afternoon, Andy.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Tell you what we need some sunshine down here. Today's
a better start. But it's been a slug over the
last couple of weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, look, I have to confess I haven't been there
this week. I left on Monday, but I'm coming back
tonight and i've heard the reports. It's been pretty miserable.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Hey, Penny, what's the story about the Green's accusing you
of a conflict of interests regarding lobbying councils.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, look, it's an absolute nonsense. I've been dealing with
counsels and farmers for the last eighteen months, two years.
You'll recall that it started with the Otago Regional Council
and there's been a number of things that I've been
dealing with with the environment Southland six farmers came to
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meet with me and Todd McLay and Andrew Hoggard or
Todd McKay's office. Actually Tod wasn't there. But we've got
this happening across the country where regional councils haven't perhaps
picked up on the fact that there are major changes
occurring with the RIMA and they do have the discretion
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within the RIMA to you know, to look at the
consents in a way that is going to align with
what the direction the government is going. And so as
a result of this letter has gone out today from
myself and Chris Bishop and Todd McLay just informing all
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the regional councils and unitary authorities that we expect them
to be very mindful of the changes that are coming,
particularly around the consenting processes. There will be some activities
that have to be consented now that will be comitted
to activities that won't need consents, and they need to
be very mindful of that. And at a time when
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we are wanting a productive primary sector to be really
going well, we do not want bureaucracies getting in the
road of that, so the conflict of interest is a nothing.
One of the other MP's National MPs who's redmain Her farm,
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was part of those six that came to visit me.
But I've been meeting with farmers up and down the country.
This Saturday, I'm at Ashburton meeting with a number of
farmers that Federated Farmers are organizing a meeting because of
issues that they are having with consenting with environment Canterbrey.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
So it's I.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Think just getting the regional councils to realize that there
is going to be quite a significant change and their
consenting processes need to be very mindful of those changes
that are coming under the RIMA.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Well, the Green parties in non mind that you are
using your political influence here to go through as Minister
for the Environment and go into bat for a select
group of farmers as such.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Yeah, well that's an interesting one because I've been going
into bat for farmers right across the country and they
see it as inappropriate. Me writing Two Horizons, which was
the regional council that the group of six farmers that
came to see me were in, and I wrote to
them and asked why the consenting process was taking so
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long and what the issues were, and I'm quite within
my rights as Minister for the Environment to ask that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Must get frustrating. Though we're trying it just to help people.
You're just going to be mindful of so much that
there's so many different things that can catch you out
of suppose.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, there are. But the process was good there.
Sue's redmain clear the com winterest said that her husband
was one of the farmers coming to see me and
had no further part in it. Had her husband not
been there, she would have been advocating much more strongly.
She would have been at the meeting, but she wasn't
at the meeting. I didn't discuss anything of the meeting
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with her or any of the outcomes of what we
were going to do, so we kept it separate. But
you know, we have to be out there advocating for
our farmers when the councils are not following the direction
of where we're heading. And so that's been one of
the main issues for farmers this consenting process, these consenting
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processes with the regional council just has not been mindful
of the new direction. And look at the green Party
are very aligned with the regional councils. There's quite a
strong green movement in the regional councils and so they're
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naturally not as happy about the changes as we are.
But the changes are going to happen because our RIMA
is going to be about ensuring that land use can
be freed up and that people can be making sure
that our productive sector is performing well.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
This is a bit of story self on hospital the
emergency department. Extra funding's being allocated and even knows they
need it.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yes, yeah, look they do. And Simon Brown is making
a really good job of getting funding where it needs
to be and also putting in place these targets that
are really improving across the country in terms of immunization
rates for children, are waiting time dropping in the emergency departments,
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quick quicker access to cancer treatments. So he is pushing
really hard to have patients front and center of everything
that's done there and making sure that the money gets
to the front line. So I'm very pleased that we're
managing to get a bit more funding for our emergency department.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Can we see any light at the tunnel at some
stage regarding waiting times? At emergency departments.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Penny, Yes, I hope so, and that's certainly one of
the key things that he has got. One are the
key indicators that he's got that he wants to see
waiting times coming down and he wants to really see
a focus on the patient.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo, Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Thanks very much, Hey day bye.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Penny Simmons, Minister for the Environment as well as being
MP from Macagall. You're listening to the Muster up next
for only Young from Beef and Lad New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
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Speaker 1 (20:15):
Joining us from Beef and Lamb this afternoon is Fione
Young Fiona, good afternoon, How good and have some blue
sky around Andy.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
It was great to wake up this morning and have
blue sky, no rain, no wind, no snow, no sleep
and so a little bit warm up. That's all I
could say is that this wouldn't mind attempt to be
a little bit up. We just got the wooden's grass
growth cure the other day and it's it's looking probably
lower than we'd like for this time of year.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Good we frost this morning here in Gore.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Indeed you've seen down here just south of Drummond, Odaho, SI. Yeah,
the ranch here is definitely a little bit colder than
it should be.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Now we're talking beef and lamb. Has been quite a
bit going on in that landscape at the moment, different
things which we're not talking about today, obviously, but we
are talking about a GM's Yes, So it's that time.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Of year again where we want to we really want
to connect with our levy payers, with our farmers and
might be some real professionals the team to come along
to our AGM, which is going to be held on Tuesday,
the fourteenth of October in beal Kluther at the new
building there at Balclusa one thirty cack Off, Andy.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
The new building, not the new pub, but the other one.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Right, that's right, Yes, yes, we may go to the
new pub later, but the meeting will be held at
the Kluper District War Memorial and Community Center.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So it's been an underreasting twelve months when you look
at it. But from a beef and lamb perspective, I
suppose let's talk about prices right, just record prices.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Oh absolutely, And actually I'm not sure if people have
seen our recent information that's come out from Economic Survey
and the commentary by Angie really recommend that you get
online and have a look at that. Actually, you know,
farmers will benefit from those prices this year and it's
you know, in all honesty, it's about time that we
see profits going up. I guess the caveat and and
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you know people will know this which remained positive, so
things will look really good. You know, the outlooks is
really good, but there are bills to be paid and
work to be done that perhaps we people put on
hold over the last couple of years. But overall it's
an outstanding sort of outlook for the next year or two.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I'm going to be interested to see the beef and
lamb outlook normally that normally comes ound around November time
fi O giving numbers around the red meat industry as such.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yes, absolutely, and look it might be of interest to
your listeners where we have coming to our age and
the year. Jenny McGimpsey will be there, so she'sn't of
our seeking senior Economic Survey people and she's going to
talk a little bit about some of the information that
they've been pulling together and it's amazing as I sort
of have been longer in the organization. You know, the
work our Economic service doesn't incredibly highly regarded actually across
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the sector. But also we're hearing from Kate Acklin. So
it's Kate Ackland, our chair, coming to the GM and
we'll be keen to hear from her a little bit
about what she does on the ground as a business person,
but in her role as a chair of BEEF and
ma'am you know, she's been very engaged internationally, looking at
what's happening overseas and looking at what's happening in the sector.
So I think that should be a really interesting presentation.
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And then we also have Phil Morrison joining us so PSIL.
Morrison quite involved with rural leaders. He's facilitator with the
Value Chain Innovation Tour and with colors, so I think,
you know, when we're thinking about leaders of tomorrow for
the sector and how we help grow build those leaders,
I think he'll have some really interesting insights.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Registrations are they required for the event?
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yes, please do so.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Registrations are online so if you go to our website
and there's an email coming out tomorrow so that will
allow to have a registration link in it as well.
So really we really do encourage you to come. I know, agms,
there's an element of that which is around, you know,
the business of electing people. We really want to focus
and you know, talking to Matt McCrae yesterday about this,
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we really want to focus on the opportunity to have
some good discussions and to hear from our levy payers,
you know in terms of you know, where Beef and
Them is going and in some of the direction of
our new strategy.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
How's everything looking over at Oahu's anyway, how's the September
season treated you well?
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I mean, I think very similar to most people around
the region where you know, we're quite like some warmer weather,
the soil tempts to lift a little bit and you know,
for grass to grow. I think that's and you know,
we've got through, we've got through the spring. But yeah,
definitely in the space where we're wanting the grasp to
start growing, thinking thinking like it should we be thinking
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about a little bit of Martigen at this time to
help both things, and that that's sort of on our minds.
But yeah, not not too wet, thank goodness. But I'm
conscious that we've got other areas of southmand that you know,
they've really got a lot of water on the land,
whether it be snow or rain. So we just want
that to dry out so we can get into the
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business of throwing our mates and getting it off the
little fun.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So what time does the AGM kick off?
Speaker 7 (25:08):
A GM kicks off at one thirty, so that's Tuesday,
fourteenth of October one thirty over in bell Closer and
we'll finish up with some refreshments at four thirty.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
The only younger beef for Lamb. Always appreciate your time
on the muster.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Fabulous, Thanks Andy, Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
This is the Muster on Hakanui. Thomas O'Brien is based
up in Garston and Northern Northern Southland. Joins us once
again the song to really be Thomas the tank engine,
busy getting the kings and flyer up and running for
the new season. Tom, good afternoon. Last time we spoke
to you, you were busy replacing sleepers. Give us some
sleeper stats.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Oh well we've got well. Firstly, good afternoon and hear
from you. But yeah, we've we had three hundred and
twenty five sleepers that we had to replace and renew
and redrill and bolt up. So we've put those on
and then we just had to test the three foot
six gauge which is the distance between the two rails,
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and then we just have to adjust that. We use
kind of like a strainer, a bit like a big
big wire strainer, but it's used to either pully gauge
in or push it out. So we've been busy doing that.
With the high rail. We jump in the old truck
and put the steel wheels from the truck hydraulically onto
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the rail, and then we toodle line up the track
and away we go.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
So how long has it taken you all up for
these sleepers? You gave us some figures last time and
it sounded like an arduous process.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
So yeah, we've been taken away for about six weeks
I suppose doing this job. But you know, I think
I might have said to you last time that the
total number of sleepers in the track I believe is
about twenty two thousand, So so yeah, see it's an
ongoing process.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Annually we do track maintenance annually, and yeah, so we've
just been trying to get that all done before our
first charter trip tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So how often do you go and do R and
M on the track during the season as such? Or
is this the whole point of doing what you're doing
Now everything's pretty much up to speed as such. Space well, I.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Mean, there's certain requirements that we've got to adhere to
from an audit perspective and health and safety and just
general as you say, R and M running maintenance and
all the rest of it. So all of that makes
sense to do it in the winter in the off season. Yeah,
we've got a small crew here. We're not like a
sort of a puffing billy in Melbourne where they have,
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you know, sort of one hundred and fifty people, and
you know, they've got a huge amount of resource availative
and we've got a skeleton crew that works through the
winter and we've just got to get these jobs done
pre season. Once the season takes off, it's very difficult
to sort of get back out on the track and
carry on with that maintenance. So, you know, plus the
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fact that we've stripped the boiler down and we had
a blow and superheated tube that had to be replaced,
you know one of the side injectives had to be replaced. Yeah,
we've had. We did a steam dome pressure for the
safety valve. We did a chest on that the other
day and then locked that off at one hundred and
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seventy psi for our main operating pressure. So so there's
a little bit of jargon trying there for your handy,
But yeah, the point is is that the more that
we can get done in the off season, the smoother
the actual running season is. So yeah, we're on tracks
to speak and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You bring up Puffing Billy, of course, just out of
Melbourne and Australia, is that like the sister or the
brother of the Kingstom Flight. I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I wouldn't go that far. I'd say K ninety two
locomotive and Mandibal. It's probably more closer related than the
Puffing Billy's, although a completely separate engine. That K ninety
two was the original Kingston Fly. So yeah, I mean,
I'm ashamed to say I haven't been to Melbourne. They're
alone to Puffing Billy, but those guys have come here
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on a regular basis and they have a real love
affair with with the Kingston Fly. It's much, you know,
much larger locomotive than the than the ones that they've got,
but they've got several of them and they are a
major commercial operation there with multiple lines and multiple engines
and yeah, it's it's a big, big operation. But I'll
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have to check it out one day.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You love Melbourne, You need to go to Chapel Street
in per run. All the movers and shakers are their time.
You'd fit right in.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh you I reckon?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I think I'd be more of a wallflower and a
place like that, mate, a church mouse in the corner
wondering what the where the hell I am? Yeah, so although, yeah,
yeah it'd be great to go. I've heard good things
about Melbourne, so yeah one day mate.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So everything though, it's everything's just up and running for
the season. You're pretty confident, Yeah, no, we're very confident.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
We're very confident, and yeah we are looking forward to
a good season. So yeah, the train's going to do
well this year. So yeah, really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
How much cold does it take to get it going.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
Well?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
At the moment, we're just loading it up with wood,
just you know, to get it going for a start,
and then once we once we get up to about
thirty forty pounds of pressure, we start putting a bit
of coal on. But yeah, I mean to actually get
it up to steam pressure from coal, which is what
we're doing this morning, it takes I don't know, probably
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four or five hours, maybe five or six hours, depending
on the outside temperature. Yeah, but once we get running,
that doesn't take as long. So yeah, but we'll go
through about a ton and a half of coal in
a day. I suppose there you go.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Here's your theme, Thomas, the tankins, and you can't bet it.
I mean, who ever thought change there would be so riveting?
But it's certainly something part of the southern landscape. Are
we're aways up there? How's it been?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Oh, you know, typical spring, windy, blustery, rainy, sunny, four
seasons in one day, all that sort of carry on.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
But we're looking forward to a settled week.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
The forecast is looking good for this coming weekend, for
tomorrow's trip and for Sunday's trip as well. So yeah, no,
we're pumped, mate, we're building up a head esteem where pumped.
We're ready to go, all cylinders going.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But just a tourist season in general, it's due to
kick off properly.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Absolutely, yeah. So I mean generally speaking, it's not until
Labor weekend that we really see a shift in the
numbers of people coming through. But yeah, we've got these
charter trips, but pretty much after Labor weekend that's when
we get a sort of regular locals coming through. Otigo
south Enders in particular see some familiar faces and you know,
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repeat offenders coming to repeat train offenders coming through had
just got an absolute love for fear of the nostalgia
of the train. So that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh that's good. Hey, good on your tom. Will you
carry on doing what you're doing. But all the best
for the weekend there. It's going to be a great
occasion up there at Kingston.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Absolutely mate, cheers Andy.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Mate, Thomas O'Brien, Thomas the tank engine. From now on,
I reckon. This is the muster before we wrap up
Resident Sporting Gury, Nathan Burden, South and Stead go one
more time. In twenty twenty five, Jason Pinel, the news
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Dog z B joins us on a Thursday afternoon. Piney,
good afternoon, Straight off the cuff. Normally I'll be complaining
about rugby encroaching into the cricket season, but this time
in a rounded his cricket encroaching into the rugby season.
The T twenty last night at Mount Monganui not a
good start for the black Caps, although it was kind
of inevitable.
Speaker 9 (33:15):
Yeah, they might want to reconsider andy whether they have
cricket at this time, not just because of the result,
but oddly enough a little bit of the back end
of winter autumn whatever. It was bit of a windy
old night there at the Mount last night. I saw
a stat saying it's the earliest there's ever been a
home International in our home summer, the first of October.
(33:36):
So yeah, it was Look there were parts of it
I liked, in particular watching Tim Robinson bat. He only
really got a game because rach And Ravendra was a
late withdrawal after colliding with a advertising hoarding while doing
fielding practice a couple of days before. But Tim Robinson
coming in an unbeaten one hundred and six off sixty
(33:56):
six balls, remembering of course that New Zealand was six
for three in the second over, so you know, you'd
probably I'd probably be quite happy to rack up one
eighty one for six. Never really going to be enough though,
to be honest, I mean, Jeders some good T twenty
cricketers in this Australian side. Captain Mitch marsh with what
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eighty five or forty three got them going. By the
time Travis Head was out in the sixth over, they
were already approaching seventy. So it always just looked a
bit too easy for Australia. And they got there with
what two and a half three and a half overs
to spare, which in T twenty tens is getting there
at a canter So look, the weather forecast ain't there
great for amountain. We're going to eat for tomorrow or
(34:39):
for Saturday unfortunately, but let's hope they can get some
sort of cricket. And in Games two and three you're.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Kind of tempting fate playing cricket in New Zealand at
this time of year. I mean the game yesterday down
here in the South, for example, we have snowflourries for
goodness sake. But yeah, it just seems really really early.
Is it nothing more than revenue gathering or what's the
go You've just.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Got to try and fit it in where you can.
I mean, we know Australia who got the ashes coming up.
And look, if you get the chance to play a
three game series against Australia, you take that opportunity because
it doesn't come along very often. And you know, obviously
the Chapel Hadley is something that's been played for for
a while now. But yeah, Look, if there's anywhere that
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you can probably rely on, at least for the most
part to be fine about this time of the year,
it's Mount Monganuwe we know how many sunshine how as
they get across the summer months. Maybe it was a
bit optimistic hoping that would be the case in early October,
but look it's just as likely to have been a
beautiful day there yesterday and across the weekend. We can
never control the weather. Look, I don't mind it. I
enjoyed watching a bit of cricket last night and let's
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hope that we can get some more tomorrow night and Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now, the silver ferns in the Neple this just gets
arguably ugly grace the week of the other night on
the mic openly proclaiming for Dame Noline Toto to come back.
But it sounds as av as are split in the
ranks of the silver Ferns.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
Yeah, that's what we're hearing. And look, it's just a
really unfortunate situation all round, really Andy, you know, just
a bit of a shambles when as we understand it,
there are high level meetings going on now with Dame
Nolelen Todoa and whoever on Neptborn, New Zealand's side is
involved in needs to try and thrash out a solution.
I mean, Dame Nolen from all reports, wants to continue
(36:22):
as Silver Ferns coach. There's clearly a cohort of players
including Grace Wiki, Karen Berger and others who are very
very keen for her to come back into the mix.
And equally we're hearing there's a there's a group of players,
you know, and depending on who you believe, it's anywhere
between two and seven who have an issue with the
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way she conducts herself as head coach of the Silver Ferns.
It's just a really unfortunate situation. And to hear that
yesterday they sat in the room Dame Nolen and Netborn,
New Zealand for ten hours without being able to come
up with a solutions that have gone back in today
is really I mean, I don't know what that means. Andy.
The longer it goes, does it seem more likely or
(37:05):
less likely that Dave Nolen will come back? I ready
don't know the answer. What I do know is it's
a really unfortunate chapter for New Zealand netball. And look,
they've got a Constellation Cup series which starts in two weeks.
They've got to pick the squad, they've got to get
into camp, they've got to train, they've got to play.
Who's doing all of that? And even if Dave Nolen
does come back, what sort of mindset is she going
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to have she as she takes over again, And if
there are still players in that squad who have an
issue with her, then how's that going to all play out.
It's a very very unfortunate situation. As I say, I
just hope there's some sort of resolution soon. There has
to be otherwise, you know, you can't just let this
drag on. Decide one way or the other whether Dave
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Nolen is coming back in and then at least we'll
have some clarity and we can move forward from there.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Is it around her coaching techniques just being old school?
And what is it?
Speaker 9 (37:58):
What are you hearing no idea, no idea what it is.
I think we're all sort of assuming that that's what
it is because she is from that, I guess, that
old school style of coaching. But I've always found Dame
Noldine told her to be very collegial in the way
that she deals with people. And you look at a
play like Grace Wiki, she's not that old, you know.
(38:18):
It's not as though this is a split between those
from the older side of things and the silver Ferns
and the young ones. I think Grace Week is only
about twenty two, twenty three years old, and she obviously
is a huge fan of Dave Noldine. So I don't know, Andy,
I mean, I'd only be speculating, and there's plenty of
that around. That's the issue here as well, in the
cone of silence that's been created here, everybody is just speculating,
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and until we have some actual concrete facts around this,
that's all we can do. Really. As I say, I
think the best thing for everybody would be for this
thing to be resolved once and for all.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
The all Blacks are over in Perth against the Wallaby's
this weekend, and a lot of pundits are actually expecting
the Australians to come through some arrow win. For some reason,
They're thinking Australia and Perth they're going to do, They're
going to do the business.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Well, I guess if you look at this year, it
would follow a trend, wouldn't it. You know, we beat Argentina,
we lose to Argentina, we beat South Africa, we lose
to South Africa, we beat Australia. The continuation of that
trend is a loss to Australia on Saturday night in Perth,
and it wouldn't beyond the RUMs of possibility Andy that
they get up and do that. I would like to
think that the All Blacks quest for what consistency would
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start in Perth on Saturday night. Then they can string
two wins together and start to find some sort of
you know, consistency is the only word I can think
of ready to describe it, you know, winning games and
then winning another game, and then winning another game, and
then going off to the Northern Tour and winning as
many of those games over there as possible too. Look,
(39:48):
I still think the All Blacks would be favorites for
the game, but I think Australia, especially off the back
of last weekend at even Park, where lest not forget,
they came back from seventeen points down the first half
to close it up to within three at half time.
At the seventy minute mark they were within two points,
so just a penalty or a drop goal away from
actually beating the All Blacks before Cameroy guards late tride.
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Plus they were missing a couple of key players. Will
Skelton and Rob Valatini coming back in this week, so
they will be optimistic that they can turn things around.
And what will be, you know, a bit of a cauldron.
Sixty five thousand tickets sold for this game on Saturday
night over in Perth. Look, I think it'll be another
cracking test matches. They all have been in the Rugby
Championship this year for the neutral anyway, you just don't
(40:34):
know from week to week who's going to beat who.
So look, I'm interested to see what kind of team
they select, whether they go for a few tweaks, a
few changes. We know Scott Barrett will come back in
if he's if he gets through the couple of days
training over there. He is the All Blacks captain after all.
What will they do at first five? Probably Damien McKenzie
with Boat and Barrett injured. What will they do in
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the back three with Caleb Clark under an injury cloud?
I think Leroy Carter has done really well, so I
think he'll be there. Will they move will Jordan to
the wing? Will they will they make a change at
fall back? Will they bring Rico Yoani back in? Will
they give somebody else a go? You know, there's a
few selection questions, and I guess we'll get an idea
of what they're thinking about later on this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Jason Pine and weekend sporting host on news Doorg ZIB
twelve to three. Always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Good stuff, any good chat mate to your soon.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
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Speaker 5 (41:58):
Hey, well, I'll act to heavy go there and to
go on again for I'm.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
PGD Wrights and Presents, start selling action. It sounds like
Batman and Robin, but it's Dave Morrison and Greg Clearwater.
I think they've got a steer in the back of
Tagle's car out in the bat on the movers this afternoon. Teagel,
good afternoon. We'll talk to you before everything goes Just
TuS up literally what happened at the sale today?
Speaker 10 (42:21):
Hey, yeah, sorry about just got bob. We care for
the best seat, but they make too much bois what
if today good meaning's journey Amy mist the lambs two
for three hundred dollars. Probably it might may have come
back with today. Pres is very heavy lambs, good good
good legs for the twenty two or three days sort
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of many lambs prim as as.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Into the U six then the huge.
Speaker 10 (42:52):
Probably it is very very strong last week, but tops
tops today were two twenty heavy us for months at
seventy with the life of this news anywhere from having
five and fifteen twenty dollars. But you're still pretty strong
on there. The must stall legs just won't pin of
stall eds. Theer A one hundred and twelve dollars are
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pretty small, and one hind of views and lambs well
kidd at twenty five dollars, and that wraps up anything.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
And one final question, why do you got a calf
in the back of your vehicle?
Speaker 10 (43:25):
I've just running around money heavy arm mate. We're just
running around playing a few contracts flame and having a
kilo contracts, so I don't think.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
You are, but we'll leave the discussion there for another day. David,
you have a good hugh to know.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Thanks Andy,
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakini. I'm
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Matt McCrae starts us off talking about the road shows
that the Alliance Group has been involved with this week
(01:33):
and giving us from his viewpoint anyway, why I met things.
There's still a lot of this that we need to
understand before we make a decision. Penny Simmons MP from
mccargill is on the program for You Only Young at
a beefle m New Zealand. Thomas O'Brien our Garston correspondent.
He's been still working on those sleepers, getting the line
(01:53):
ready for the Kings and Fly to get and start
the cack off the season. And Jason Pine had a
news talk zb this situation from New Zealand Netball and
Dame Nolving Toto. It goes from bad to worse, So
we'll get Pony's take on it. Dave Morrison from PGG
Wrights and is giving us a rundown from the Charlton
sale very shortly, and then we'll start the y Hour
(02:14):
with Matt McCrae. Remember Matt McCrae farms at Macharita and
(02:35):
joins us this afternoon on the musta Matt Good Afternoon
it's good to see a bit of sunshine finally.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, afternoon, and it certainly is. It's been a fresby
wet and cold last month, but it's we're turning a
corner this morning.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Since we spoke last house, things been.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
We're pretty much done a you lemming now taking an
opportunity in a dry one day to get a few
week drives shut out in a way. Feed levels have
dropped quite significantly. It's just been the grossest hasn't been
there probably being a bit colder, the demand has been
slightly high, so yeah, be good to get a few
(03:15):
miles away. But yeah, it's locking all right. So far.
We haven't tailed or anything yet. But there seems to
be a few more lembs about them last year, which
is a good stet.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So certainly a better situation than this time last year.
From your from your understanding.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And the neck of the words, i'd say, yeah, it
is where like this time last year, is stuggling to
drive around some of the hot paddocks from their lemons.
Certainly we've been ahead of that this year and we
have Probably the main difference is we've just had a
wee few drawing days in between, whereas last year there's nothing,
so we'll probably still tip out the same amount of rainfall.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But yeah, just looking for a good October.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
To get those used lactating well. And yes, the lembs
of a bigger winning tom would be good.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
What would your rainfall figures be so far for the
year before the month even.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Tipped out to show two twenty meals last year, but
last month I should say, but there was about seventy
meals that fell on the probably day either side of
that month. Yeah, so it's certainly well above long term average.
But yeah, we're over a meter.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Of rain for the year already, which has probably a
good hundred meals up on where we could be. But yeah,
I think July was well behind and September was well up,
so we're probably not far away to be fair, Matt.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
The Alliance Groove has been all the talk this week,
the road shows with the directors and Mark Win and
Willie Visa as well of course the chair and chief
executive respectively, going around the traps. I went along to
the Gore meeting, was kind of poignant that it was
just a stormy night outside as everyone setting and listened
to this proposal with Dawn meats.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it certainly was shut up to Gore as well
and listened in. And yeah, I'm certainly telling a few
calls about it the last a few days too, And yeah,
there's a lot of frustration and disappointment probably.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Two words that you could use about it.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
But I guess most shareholders understand how we got here,
but pretty frustrated around yeah, the deal that's been presented
and yeah, the vision on the way forward.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I suppose there seemed to be the key word there
in the room the other night, frustration, but there was
almost people resigned to the fact that if this didn't
go through, then we're next to for alliance. But you've
got a different viewpoint.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, yeah, I do. Like I'm probably sitting on the
fence at the moment, but I don't see the Dawn
deal is actually providing a providing us a long term future,
and I guess that's what I was hoping to hear
out of those roadshow meetings. But yeah, just pumping more
money and there's nothing actually structurally that was going to
(06:11):
change in terms of the way they operate or as
the industry operates, which when you yeah, we just can't
continue down the last men sending evenue and there's other
companies that are struggling as well. So what don't we
actually use this opportunity as a to create something better
(06:32):
as an industry rather than just passing off the last men,
because there's probably another company from what I hear that's
not too far from being in a similar position against Yeah,
just frustrating, But the banks are probably hiding behind the
directors and what I learned in the meetings, as I've
obviously had a fear say and how we've got to
this point, So like to say a bit of leadership
(06:53):
from the banking industry and maybe all these AUSSI banks
are possibly behind it, but a bit of a and
from them around helping create something where chief and beef
farming can be a little bit more positive and people
can invest in it and maybe the everage age in
that room would be a few years younger.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But if it doesn't, no vote. Is it worth thinking
about what could happen in a couple of weeks time?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I don't know. I think things have changed slightly
from when when they put the steel together a few
months ago, Like there is a wee bit more in
the coffers floating ground. But yeah, I guess i'd dislike
to see the director's enough and say that they wouldn't
wave the white flag at the first opportunity that actually
(07:38):
end the banking industry too, like a lot of these
banks are banking chief and beef farmers, and even like
the dairy farmers. It's flying Carl Stock in it through
the industry. So yeah, it'd probably would be disappointed if
they did wave the white flag and it went down
that way. But maybe it needs a bigger picture approach
(07:59):
than alliance. And we've obviously got a reasonable amount of
money invested in them, and the way I look at it,
either way, those shares are going to be worth very
little or nothing. So I can swallow my pride and
take that if it means that in ten or fifteen
years we're talking about. Yeah, it's some decent structural change
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in the industry, not just getting brought out by their arsh.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And the counter offer as well by the so called
way KaiA five as they have been named, talking about
voting against the door Meet's proposal but embracing an alternative
capital model proposed which they put out in a letter
to sharholders last week. Do you think that's a viable option.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I've pondered that phi the good and I have
spoke to a couple of those people that have put
it together. I guess it is one option of a
no vote, and some of it does have merit if
you look at it and a big picture of you,
But there's certainly a lot of questions come out of it.
Two and I'd like to see some of.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Those bigger shareholders that have probably.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Put some of these farmer directors in front up and
say that they would not take their volume payments and.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Through that in the kiddy too.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
There's got to be some structural changes either way this goes,
in my opinion, and yeah, we've got to see what
those actually look like, because you can't just carry on
operating the way they are. And I'd fully acknowledge that
they have made turned around in the last twelve or
eighty months and in making a profit, the will is turning.
(09:36):
But for probably smaller and medium shareholders in younger ones slights,
I'd still classify myself. We probably want to see more
than that.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Okay, say it's a no vote. Matt White Chance a
knight in shining armor come striding through the door on
a stallion with another offer there to save the company.
Do you think this is realistic to think like that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's a tough one, to be fair, I'm
not confident now, but if it is a yes vote,
I think the banks and some of the previous management
get off scot free and farmers are left to swallow
the bills.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Do I think that's fairy? They're probably not, but.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I guess yeah, it will come down to there's a
lot for me, it's going to come down to a
gatfield vote, and yeah, I'm not that happy with either
option at the moment, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So when you're talking to farmers out in your neck
of the woods there down towards wonder and way, what's
the general feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Uh, Philly, Max I said earlier, it's mainly the frustration.
There's a few people vote have already sort of decided.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Which way they're going to vote, but you know, just
looking for a way bit.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
More leadership around what the medium to long term future
looks like. Like I said earlier, and it's not just
an alliance problem, it's like an industry problem. When you
walked into that or walked out of that room, and
go probably didn't fill you with confidence to be investing
(11:16):
in the industry, and that's not really what I want.
I want more of a positive industry to be part
of and yeah that people want to be Yeah, I
want to be part of and make it profitable too.
So yeah, I think I think some of these other
companies are sitting back and waiting to see what is
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going to happen with Alliance and probably challenge them to
put a better offer on the table in terms of
where we're heading as an industry.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Just finally, Matte, interesting you bring that up, where we
are headed as a remat industry. Do you think this
is a chance for a bit more of a unified
approach throughout the red meat sector in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I would love to see it. Am I confident that
would happen? Probably not so much.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
There's been plenty of people that have tried in the past,
but you can't let a crisis, a good crisis, go
to waste.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Maybe it is that's probably he needs to.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Heaven at a few levels above my pay grade.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
But yeah, i'd.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Probably telling some people that are sitting back and waiting
to see where they end up. There'll be maybe an opportunity, mister,
if they don't get off the ends pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And I mentioned good on you, Matt. I always appreciate
your Time's any Matt McCrae farming at Mycareta talking about
the Alliance deal. Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo. She's
up next. Welcome back to the Master. Penny Simmons is
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MP from the Cargo. She is Minister for the Environment
amongst other portfolios. Penny, good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
It's good afternoon, Andy.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Tell you what we need some sunshine down here. Today's
a better start. But it's been a slug over the
last couple of weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, look, I have to confess I haven't been there
this week. I left on Monday, but I'm coming back
tonight and i've heard the reports. It's been pretty miserable.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Hey, Penny, what's the story about the Green's accusing you
of a conflict of interests regarding lobbying councils.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Yeah, look, it's an absolute nonsense. I've been dealing with
counsels and farmers for the last eighteen months, two years.
You'll recall that it started with the Otago Regional Council
and there's been a number of things that I've been
dealing with with the environment Southland six farmers came to
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meet with me and Todd McLay and Andrew Hoggard or
Todd McKay's office. Actually Tod wasn't there. But we've got
this happening across the country where regional councils haven't perhaps
picked up on the fact that there are major changes
occurring with the RIMA and they do have the discretion
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within the RIMA to you know, to look at the
consents in a way that is going to align with
what the direction the government is going. And so as
a result of this letter has gone out today from
myself and Chris Bishop and Todd McLay just informing all
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the regional councils and unitary authorities that we expect them
to be very mindful of the changes that are coming,
particularly around the consenting processes. There will be some activities
that have to be consented now that will be comitted
to activities that won't need consents, and they need to
be very mindful of that. And at a time when
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we are wanting a productive primary sector to be really
going well, we do not want bureaucracies getting in the
road of that, so the conflict of interest is a nothing.
One of the other MP's National MPs who's redmain Her farm,
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was part of those six that came to visit me.
But I've been meeting with farmers up and down the country.
This Saturday, I'm at Ashburton meeting with a number of
farmers that Federated Farmers are organizing a meeting because of
issues that they are having with consenting with environment Canterbrey.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
So it's I.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Think just getting the regional councils to realize that there
is going to be quite a significant change and their
consenting processes need to be very mindful of those changes
that are coming under the RIMA.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Well, the Green parties in non mind that you are
using your political influence here to go through as Minister
for the Environment and go into bat for a select
group of farmers as such.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
Yeah, well that's an interesting one because I've been going
into bat for farmers right across the country and they
see it as inappropriate. Me writing Two Horizons, which was
the regional council that the group of six farmers that
came to see me were in, and I wrote to
them and asked why the consenting process was taking so
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long and what the issues were, and I'm quite within
my rights as Minister for the Environment to ask that.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Must get frustrating. Though we're trying it just to help people.
You're just going to be mindful of so much that
there's so many different things that can catch you out
of suppose.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, there are. But the process was good there.
Sue's redmain clear the com winterest said that her husband
was one of the farmers coming to see me and
had no further part in it. Had her husband not
been there, she would have been advocating much more strongly.
She would have been at the meeting, but she wasn't
at the meeting. I didn't discuss anything of the meeting
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with her or any of the outcomes of what we
were going to do, so we kept it separate. But
you know, we have to be out there advocating for
our farmers when the councils are not following the direction
of where we're heading. And so that's been one of
the main issues for farmers this consenting process, these consenting
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processes with the regional council just has not been mindful
of the new direction. And look at the green Party
are very aligned with the regional councils. There's quite a
strong green movement in the regional councils and so they're
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naturally not as happy about the changes as we are.
But the changes are going to happen because our RIMA
is going to be about ensuring that land use can
be freed up and that people can be making sure
that our productive sector is performing well.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
This is a bit of story self on hospital the
emergency department. Extra funding's being allocated and even knows they
need it.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Yes, yeah, look they do. And Simon Brown is making
a really good job of getting funding where it needs
to be and also putting in place these targets that
are really improving across the country in terms of immunization
rates for children, are waiting time dropping in the emergency departments,
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quick quicker access to cancer treatments. So he is pushing
really hard to have patients front and center of everything
that's done there and making sure that the money gets
to the front line. So I'm very pleased that we're
managing to get a bit more funding for our emergency department.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Can we see any light at the tunnel at some
stage regarding waiting times? At emergency departments.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Penny, Yes, I hope so, and that's certainly one of
the key things that he has got. One are the
key indicators that he's got that he wants to see
waiting times coming down and he wants to really see
a focus on the patient.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo, Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Thanks very much, Hey day bye.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Penny Simmons, Minister for the Environment as well as being
MP from Macagall. You're listening to the Muster up next
for only Young from Beef and Lad New Zealand.
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Speaker 1 (20:15):
Joining us from Beef and Lamb this afternoon is Fione
Young Fiona, good afternoon, How good and have some blue
sky around Andy.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
It was great to wake up this morning and have
blue sky, no rain, no wind, no snow, no sleep
and so a little bit warm up. That's all I
could say is that this wouldn't mind attempt to be
a little bit up. We just got the wooden's grass
growth cure the other day and it's it's looking probably
lower than we'd like for this time of year.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Good we frost this morning here in Gore.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Indeed you've seen down here just south of Drummond, Odaho, SI. Yeah,
the ranch here is definitely a little bit colder than
it should be.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Now we're talking beef and lamb. Has been quite a
bit going on in that landscape at the moment, different
things which we're not talking about today, obviously, but we
are talking about a GM's Yes, So it's that time.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Of year again where we want to we really want
to connect with our levy payers, with our farmers and
might be some real professionals the team to come along
to our AGM, which is going to be held on Tuesday,
the fourteenth of October in beal Kluther at the new
building there at Balclusa one thirty cack Off, Andy.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
The new building, not the new pub, but the other one.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
Right, that's right, Yes, yes, we may go to the
new pub later, but the meeting will be held at
the Kluper District War Memorial and Community Center.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So it's been an underreasting twelve months when you look
at it. But from a beef and lamb perspective, I
suppose let's talk about prices right, just record prices.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Oh absolutely, And actually I'm not sure if people have
seen our recent information that's come out from Economic Survey
and the commentary by Angie really recommend that you get
online and have a look at that. Actually, you know,
farmers will benefit from those prices this year and it's
you know, in all honesty, it's about time that we
see profits going up. I guess the caveat and and
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you know people will know this which remained positive, so
things will look really good. You know, the outlooks is
really good, but there are bills to be paid and
work to be done that perhaps we people put on
hold over the last couple of years. But overall it's
an outstanding sort of outlook for the next year or two.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I'm going to be interested to see the beef and
lamb outlook normally that normally comes ound around November time
fi O giving numbers around the red meat industry as such.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yes, absolutely, and look it might be of interest to
your listeners where we have coming to our age and
the year. Jenny McGimpsey will be there, so she'sn't of
our seeking senior Economic Survey people and she's going to
talk a little bit about some of the information that
they've been pulling together and it's amazing as I sort
of have been longer in the organization. You know, the
work our Economic service doesn't incredibly highly regarded actually across
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the sector. But also we're hearing from Kate Acklin. So
it's Kate Ackland, our chair, coming to the GM and
we'll be keen to hear from her a little bit
about what she does on the ground as a business person,
but in her role as a chair of BEEF and
ma'am you know, she's been very engaged internationally, looking at
what's happening overseas and looking at what's happening in the sector.
So I think that should be a really interesting presentation.
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And then we also have Phil Morrison joining us so PSIL.
Morrison quite involved with rural leaders. He's facilitator with the
Value Chain Innovation Tour and with colors, so I think,
you know, when we're thinking about leaders of tomorrow for
the sector and how we help grow build those leaders,
I think he'll have some really interesting insights.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Registrations are they required for the event?
Speaker 8 (23:40):
Yes, please do so.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Registrations are online so if you go to our website
and there's an email coming out tomorrow so that will
allow to have a registration link in it as well.
So really we really do encourage you to come. I know, agms,
there's an element of that which is around, you know,
the business of electing people. We really want to focus
and you know, talking to Matt McCrae yesterday about this,
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we really want to focus on the opportunity to have
some good discussions and to hear from our levy payers,
you know in terms of you know, where Beef and
Them is going and in some of the direction of
our new strategy.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
How's everything looking over at Oahu's anyway, how's the September
season treated you well?
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I mean, I think very similar to most people around
the region where you know, we're quite like some warmer weather,
the soil tempts to lift a little bit and you know,
for grass to grow. I think that's and you know,
we've got through, we've got through the spring. But yeah,
definitely in the space where we're wanting the grasp to
start growing, thinking thinking like it should we be thinking
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about a little bit of Martigen at this time to
help both things, and that that's sort of on our minds.
But yeah, not not too wet, thank goodness. But I'm
conscious that we've got other areas of southmand that you know,
they've really got a lot of water on the land,
whether it be snow or rain. So we just want
that to dry out so we can get into the
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business of throwing our mates and getting it off the
little fun.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So what time does the AGM kick off?
Speaker 7 (25:08):
A GM kicks off at one thirty, so that's Tuesday,
fourteenth of October one thirty over in bell Closer and
we'll finish up with some refreshments at four thirty.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
The only younger beef for Lamb. Always appreciate your time
on the muster.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Fabulous, Thanks Andy, Thanks everyone.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
This is the Muster on Hakanui. Thomas O'Brien is based
up in Garston and Northern Northern Southland. Joins us once
again the song to really be Thomas the tank engine,
busy getting the kings and flyer up and running for
the new season. Tom, good afternoon. Last time we spoke
to you, you were busy replacing sleepers. Give us some
sleeper stats.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Oh well we've got well. Firstly, good afternoon and hear
from you. But yeah, we've we had three hundred and
twenty five sleepers that we had to replace and renew
and redrill and bolt up. So we've put those on
and then we just had to test the three foot
six gauge which is the distance between the two rails,
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and then we just have to adjust that. We use
kind of like a strainer, a bit like a big
big wire strainer, but it's used to either pully gauge
in or push it out. So we've been busy doing that.
With the high rail. We jump in the old truck
and put the steel wheels from the truck hydraulically onto
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the rail, and then we toodle line up the track
and away we go.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
So how long has it taken you all up for
these sleepers? You gave us some figures last time and
it sounded like an arduous process.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
So yeah, we've been taken away for about six weeks
I suppose doing this job. But you know, I think
I might have said to you last time that the
total number of sleepers in the track I believe is
about twenty two thousand, So so yeah, see it's an
ongoing process.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Annually we do track maintenance annually, and yeah, so we've
just been trying to get that all done before our
first charter trip tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So how often do you go and do R and
M on the track during the season as such? Or
is this the whole point of doing what you're doing
Now everything's pretty much up to speed as such. Space well, I.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Mean, there's certain requirements that we've got to adhere to
from an audit perspective and health and safety and just
general as you say, R and M running maintenance and
all the rest of it. So all of that makes
sense to do it in the winter in the off season. Yeah,
we've got a small crew here. We're not like a
sort of a puffing billy in Melbourne where they have,
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you know, sort of one hundred and fifty people, and
you know, they've got a huge amount of resource availative
and we've got a skeleton crew that works through the
winter and we've just got to get these jobs done
pre season. Once the season takes off, it's very difficult
to sort of get back out on the track and
carry on with that maintenance. So, you know, plus the
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fact that we've stripped the boiler down and we had
a blow and superheated tube that had to be replaced,
you know one of the side injectives had to be replaced. Yeah,
we've had. We did a steam dome pressure for the
safety valve. We did a chest on that the other
day and then locked that off at one hundred and
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seventy psi for our main operating pressure. So so there's
a little bit of jargon trying there for your handy,
But yeah, the point is is that the more that
we can get done in the off season, the smoother
the actual running season is. So yeah, we're on tracks
to speak and everything.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You bring up Puffing Billy, of course, just out of
Melbourne and Australia, is that like the sister or the
brother of the Kingstom Flight. I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I wouldn't go that far. I'd say K ninety two
locomotive and Mandibal. It's probably more closer related than the
Puffing Billy's, although a completely separate engine. That K ninety
two was the original Kingston Fly. So yeah, I mean,
I'm ashamed to say I haven't been to Melbourne. They're
alone to Puffing Billy, but those guys have come here
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on a regular basis and they have a real love
affair with with the Kingston Fly. It's much, you know,
much larger locomotive than the than the ones that they've got,
but they've got several of them and they are a
major commercial operation there with multiple lines and multiple engines
and yeah, it's it's a big, big operation. But I'll
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have to check it out one day.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You love Melbourne, You need to go to Chapel Street
in per run. All the movers and shakers are their time.
You'd fit right in.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Oh you I reckon?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I think I'd be more of a wallflower and a
place like that, mate, a church mouse in the corner
wondering what the where the hell I am? Yeah, so although, yeah,
yeah it'd be great to go. I've heard good things
about Melbourne, so yeah one day mate.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So everything though, it's everything's just up and running for
the season. You're pretty confident, Yeah, no, we're very confident.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
We're very confident, and yeah we are looking forward to
a good season. So yeah, the train's going to do
well this year. So yeah, really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
How much cold does it take to get it going.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
Well?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
At the moment, we're just loading it up with wood,
just you know, to get it going for a start,
and then once we once we get up to about
thirty forty pounds of pressure, we start putting a bit
of coal on. But yeah, I mean to actually get
it up to steam pressure from coal, which is what
we're doing this morning, it takes I don't know, probably
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four or five hours, maybe five or six hours, depending
on the outside temperature. Yeah, but once we get running,
that doesn't take as long. So yeah, but we'll go
through about a ton and a half of coal in
a day. I suppose there you go.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Here's your theme, Thomas, the tankins, and you can't bet it.
I mean, who ever thought change there would be so riveting?
But it's certainly something part of the southern landscape. Are
we're aways up there? How's it been?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Oh, you know, typical spring, windy, blustery, rainy, sunny, four
seasons in one day, all that sort of carry on.
Speaker 10 (31:28):
But we're looking forward to a settled week.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
The forecast is looking good for this coming weekend, for
tomorrow's trip and for Sunday's trip as well. So yeah, no,
we're pumped, mate, we're building up a head esteem where pumped.
We're ready to go, all cylinders going.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But just a tourist season in general, it's due to
kick off properly.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Absolutely, yeah. So I mean generally speaking, it's not until
Labor weekend that we really see a shift in the
numbers of people coming through. But yeah, we've got these
charter trips, but pretty much after Labor weekend that's when
we get a sort of regular locals coming through. Otigo
south Enders in particular see some familiar faces and you know,
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repeat offenders coming to repeat train offenders coming through had
just got an absolute love for fear of the nostalgia
of the train. So that's great.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh that's good. Hey, good on your tom. Will you
carry on doing what you're doing. But all the best
for the weekend there. It's going to be a great
occasion up there at Kingston.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Absolutely mate, cheers Andy.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Mate, Thomas O'Brien, Thomas the tank engine. From now on,
I reckon. This is the muster before we wrap up
Resident Sporting Gury, Nathan Burden, South and Stead go one
more time. In twenty twenty five, Jason Pinel, the news
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Dog z B joins us on a Thursday afternoon. Piney,
good afternoon, Straight off the cuff. Normally I'll be complaining
about rugby encroaching into the cricket season, but this time
in a rounded his cricket encroaching into the rugby season.
The T twenty last night at Mount Monganui not a
good start for the black Caps, although it was kind
of inevitable.
Speaker 9 (33:15):
Yeah, they might want to reconsider andy whether they have
cricket at this time, not just because of the result,
but oddly enough a little bit of the back end
of winter autumn whatever. It was bit of a windy
old night there at the Mount last night. I saw
a stat saying it's the earliest there's ever been a
home International in our home summer, the first of October.
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So yeah, it was Look there were parts of it
I liked, in particular watching Tim Robinson bat. He only
really got a game because rach And Ravendra was a
late withdrawal after colliding with a advertising hoarding while doing
fielding practice a couple of days before. But Tim Robinson
coming in an unbeaten one hundred and six off sixty
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six balls, remembering of course that New Zealand was six
for three in the second over, so you know, you'd
probably I'd probably be quite happy to rack up one
eighty one for six. Never really going to be enough though,
to be honest, I mean, Jeders some good T twenty
cricketers in this Australian side. Captain Mitch marsh with what
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eighty five or forty three got them going. By the
time Travis Head was out in the sixth over, they
were already approaching seventy. So it always just looked a
bit too easy for Australia. And they got there with
what two and a half three and a half overs
to spare, which in T twenty tens is getting there
at a canter So look, the weather forecast ain't there
great for amountain. We're going to eat for tomorrow or
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for Saturday unfortunately, but let's hope they can get some
sort of cricket. And in Games two and three you're.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Kind of tempting fate playing cricket in New Zealand at
this time of year. I mean the game yesterday down
here in the South, for example, we have snowflourries for
goodness sake. But yeah, it just seems really really early.
Is it nothing more than revenue gathering or what's the
go You've just.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Got to try and fit it in where you can.
I mean, we know Australia who got the ashes coming up.
And look, if you get the chance to play a
three game series against Australia, you take that opportunity because
it doesn't come along very often. And you know, obviously
the Chapel Hadley is something that's been played for for
a while now. But yeah, Look, if there's anywhere that
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you can probably rely on, at least for the most
part to be fine about this time of the year,
it's Mount Monganuwe we know how many sunshine how as
they get across the summer months. Maybe it was a
bit optimistic hoping that would be the case in early October,
but look it's just as likely to have been a
beautiful day there yesterday and across the weekend. We can
never control the weather. Look, I don't mind it. I
enjoyed watching a bit of cricket last night and let's
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hope that we can get some more tomorrow night and Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Now, the silver ferns in the Neple this just gets
arguably ugly grace the week of the other night on
the mic openly proclaiming for Dame Noline Toto to come back.
But it sounds as av as are split in the
ranks of the silver Ferns.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
Yeah, that's what we're hearing. And look, it's just a
really unfortunate situation all round, really Andy, you know, just
a bit of a shambles when as we understand it,
there are high level meetings going on now with Dame
Nolelen Todoa and whoever on Neptborn, New Zealand's side is
involved in needs to try and thrash out a solution.
I mean, Dame Nolen from all reports, wants to continue
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as Silver Ferns coach. There's clearly a cohort of players
including Grace Wiki, Karen Berger and others who are very
very keen for her to come back into the mix.
And equally we're hearing there's a there's a group of players,
you know, and depending on who you believe, it's anywhere
between two and seven who have an issue with the
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way she conducts herself as head coach of the Silver Ferns.
It's just a really unfortunate situation. And to hear that
yesterday they sat in the room Dame Nolen and Netborn,
New Zealand for ten hours without being able to come
up with a solutions that have gone back in today
is really I mean, I don't know what that means. Andy.
The longer it goes, does it seem more likely or
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less likely that Dave Nolen will come back? I ready
don't know the answer. What I do know is it's
a really unfortunate chapter for New Zealand netball. And look,
they've got a Constellation Cup series which starts in two weeks.
They've got to pick the squad, they've got to get
into camp, they've got to train, they've got to play.
Who's doing all of that? And even if Dave Nolen
does come back, what sort of mindset is she going
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to have she as she takes over again, And if
there are still players in that squad who have an
issue with her, then how's that going to all play out.
It's a very very unfortunate situation. As I say, I
just hope there's some sort of resolution soon. There has
to be otherwise, you know, you can't just let this
drag on. Decide one way or the other whether Dave
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Nolen is coming back in and then at least we'll
have some clarity and we can move forward from there.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Is it around her coaching techniques just being old school?
And what is it?
Speaker 9 (37:58):
What are you hearing no idea, no idea what it is.
I think we're all sort of assuming that that's what
it is because she is from that, I guess, that
old school style of coaching. But I've always found Dame
Noldine told her to be very collegial in the way
that she deals with people. And you look at a
play like Grace Wiki, she's not that old, you know.
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It's not as though this is a split between those
from the older side of things and the silver Ferns
and the young ones. I think Grace Week is only
about twenty two, twenty three years old, and she obviously
is a huge fan of Dave Noldine. So I don't know, Andy,
I mean, I'd only be speculating, and there's plenty of
that around. That's the issue here as well, in the
cone of silence that's been created here, everybody is just speculating,
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and until we have some actual concrete facts around this,
that's all we can do. Really. As I say, I
think the best thing for everybody would be for this
thing to be resolved once and for all.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
The all Blacks are over in Perth against the Wallaby's
this weekend, and a lot of pundits are actually expecting
the Australians to come through some arrow win. For some reason,
They're thinking Australia and Perth they're going to do, They're
going to do the business.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
Well, I guess if you look at this year, it
would follow a trend, wouldn't it. You know, we beat Argentina,
we lose to Argentina, we beat South Africa, we lose
to South Africa, we beat Australia. The continuation of that
trend is a loss to Australia on Saturday night in Perth,
and it wouldn't beyond the RUMs of possibility Andy that
they get up and do that. I would like to
think that the All Blacks quest for what consistency would
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start in Perth on Saturday night. Then they can string
two wins together and start to find some sort of
you know, consistency is the only word I can think
of ready to describe it, you know, winning games and
then winning another game, and then winning another game, and
then going off to the Northern Tour and winning as
many of those games over there as possible too. Look,
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I still think the All Blacks would be favorites for
the game, but I think Australia, especially off the back
of last weekend at even Park, where lest not forget,
they came back from seventeen points down the first half
to close it up to within three at half time.
At the seventy minute mark they were within two points,
so just a penalty or a drop goal away from
actually beating the All Blacks before Cameroy guards late tride.
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Plus they were missing a couple of key players. Will
Skelton and Rob Valatini coming back in this week, so
they will be optimistic that they can turn things around.
And what will be, you know, a bit of a cauldron.
Sixty five thousand tickets sold for this game on Saturday
night over in Perth. Look, I think it'll be another
cracking test matches. They all have been in the Rugby
Championship this year for the neutral anyway, you just don't
(40:34):
know from week to week who's going to beat who.
So look, I'm interested to see what kind of team
they select, whether they go for a few tweaks, a
few changes. We know Scott Barrett will come back in
if he's if he gets through the couple of days
training over there. He is the All Blacks captain after all.
What will they do at first five? Probably Damien McKenzie
with Boat and Barrett injured. What will they do in
(40:55):
the back three with Caleb Clark under an injury cloud?
I think Leroy Carter has done really well, so I
think he'll be there. Will they move will Jordan to
the wing? Will they will they make a change at
fall back? Will they bring Rico Yoani back in? Will
they give somebody else a go? You know, there's a
few selection questions, and I guess we'll get an idea
of what they're thinking about later on this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Jason Pine and weekend sporting host on news Doorg ZIB
twelve to three. Always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 9 (41:23):
Good stuff, any good chat mate to your soon.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Laugh out loud with ag proud because life on the
land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Brought to us by sheer well data working to help
the livestock farmer. I threw a ball from a dog.
It's a bit extravagant, I know, but it was his
birthday and many looks great in the tuxedo. That's us
for the afternoon. Enjoy the sunshine while we've got it,
Amandy Muher, this has been the musterro on Hockenwie cheers
the Peter's genetics see tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Hey, well, I'll act to heavy go there and to
go on again for I'm.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
PGD Wrights and Presents, start selling action. It sounds like
Batman and Robin, but it's Dave Morrison and Greg Clearwater.
I think they've got a steer in the back of
Tagle's car out in the bat on the movers this afternoon. Teagel,
good afternoon. We'll talk to you before everything goes Just
TuS up literally what happened at the sale today?
Speaker 10 (42:21):
Hey, yeah, sorry about just got bob. We care for
the best seat, but they make too much bois what
if today good meaning's journey Amy mist the lambs two
for three hundred dollars. Probably it might may have come
back with today. Pres is very heavy lambs, good good
good legs for the twenty two or three days sort
(42:43):
of many lambs prim as as.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
Into the U six then the huge.
Speaker 10 (42:52):
Probably it is very very strong last week, but tops
tops today were two twenty heavy us for months at
seventy with the life of this news anywhere from having
five and fifteen twenty dollars. But you're still pretty strong
on there. The must stall legs just won't pin of
stall eds. Theer A one hundred and twelve dollars are
(43:14):
pretty small, and one hind of views and lambs well
kidd at twenty five dollars, and that wraps up anything.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
And one final question, why do you got a calf
in the back of your vehicle?
Speaker 10 (43:25):
I've just running around money heavy arm mate. We're just
running around playing a few contracts flame and having a
kilo contracts, so I don't think.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
You are, but we'll leave the discussion there for another day. David,
you have a good hugh to know.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
Thanks Andy,
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