The Muster Full Show: 03/10/25

Andy Muir talks to Don Morrison, Phil Duncan, Michelle Watt, Te Radar and Logan Savory.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Friday afternoon once again, a beautiful one of that blue
sky in abundance. So we catch up with Nathan Abernethy
out a regional forward as we do on a weekly
basis here on the musta gooday Nathan.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, gooday Andy, And it is a beautiful Friday afternoon.
It's great new month, so hopefully hope always say once
we when we get into the tenth month, she's a
pretty slippery slide to Christmas now. So so now look
things are taken away really well. Days like this certainly
helped with the weather. So now look we've got the
team on deck today and things are busy. A lot

(00:31):
of new vehicles going out. There's also a lot of
used vehicles going out at the moment to Andy, with
plenty of good secondhand vehicles coming through the doors at
the moment too, And that's what we focus on on
a Friday afternoon here on the radio. So they're just
a bit of a general overview on all used vehicles
and new vehicles for that matter. We've got on the
spot finance with Cody. A business manager can arrange that

(00:52):
really easily and take you out of the old and
pop you onto a new or an upgrade on what
you've got, and in a lot of cases we can
take you out of your old one, and even if
you've got finance on it, that.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is no problem.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
We can take care of that, and even a lot
of cases update your car and reduce your payments for you.
But look, there's just a terrific range out there of
good trucks and cars and remains in a range of
Ford Ranger out there, but a lot of Ford Everest
ranging from late twenties is late twenty thousand dollars, you know,
twenty nine nine ninety up to you know, sort of

(01:26):
seventy thousand dollars for a late model v stex Ford
Everest Sport all with low caves. We've got three of
those in there at the moment. The dearest one is
sixty nine nine ninety so the fantastic family vehicles have
got three and a half ton toe rating that amazing
V sixties or it just makes it so so smooth.
So come and test one, test drive one for yourself,

(01:48):
and we'll show you how easy we can step you
out of the old into the new doors that we
open till after five today and reopen tomorrow. Andy at
half past nine.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Good on you Nates. Enjoy the weekend all do. Thanks Andy,
good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm
ending your thank Sir Peterson nix on a bluebird afternoon.

(02:18):
Like I just said to Nathan Ebernethy, Hell God as well.
Long may it continual. They will talk whether with Phil
Duncan out of weather Watch during the hour, crank straight
into it the music today, the food fighters. You just
got to get that Friday vibe around you when the
weather's like this. So hence Dave.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
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by twin Farm teff Rom and suff Text.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
The proof is in the progeny tiff Rom dot co
dot nzi. This afternoon party cloudy were like North Easterlys
and the highest seventeen Saturday raymer lights at South Easterly
seven and ten. Sunday shells of breeze of South Easterly's
one and nine, Monday afternoon showers of breezy northerleast five
and seventeen, and on Tuesday showers of breezy to brisk

(03:05):
weastleys six and ten. So temperatures to hand northern south
in seven point eight Riverton nine point five now eight
Titteroa nine went in seven point five and Woodland's at
eight point one. As we start with Don Morrison, wallow
Bank farmer and Alliance board director, from his perspective the
Alliance road show meetings that have been held in the
South over the last few days. How it's all gone,

(03:28):
Phil don'tkan a weather watch giving a rundown on the
Southern weather for the next seven days. Shall Watt and
the Country crossover as we catch up with the team
out of Deneat and every Friday Terrada, the voice of
the Young Farmer contest. We catch up with Terrada and
see where he is in the country. I think he's
down South for the next couple of days actually, and
Logan Savery out of the Southern Tribune gives us a

(03:48):
rundown or an update or probably more of a preview
of the stags last game for the year against North
Harbor happening this evening. So without further ado, we'll start
the hour with Don Morrison. You're listen the muster on
Hock and now he thinks to finish in DDIS. Don

(04:22):
Morrison is a Willowbank farmer and a Lions Board director.
Joins us this afternoon on this it was a beautiful afternoon,
and good how are good afternoon? How's everything out your way?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Cia?

Speaker 6 (04:32):
Andy?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Hey, let the food fighters say, this is the best
day to be a shepherd. This is no, no really
enjoying it. The yous eventually finished, and the hogits are
really just getting busy, so we'll we'll take a good
day and enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Eh, Well, this is how spring is supposed to be, Howie, Hey.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Well, I don't know. Yeah, you're right. Well, I'm pretty lucky.
You know, he's been back a couple of years and
so far he hasn't enjoyed a good lambing. So you
get some days like this and you can say, hey,
this is how good it can be.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So you're under the hoggots now, the may flocks pretty
much done.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, look that only might be less than two hundred
years to go. So and we're just getting them all
bunched up into a couple of paddocks today, which will
make it easy. And the hoggits are now spread out
and they're they're actually lamming really quickly. Andy, and some
nice sized lambs. I guess you always get a good
fix on on new condition on what the you know,
the with with your scanning and new condition, what you

(05:27):
what your lambs from your using and to be like
your hoggoits, that can be a bit variable. So we're
getting some nice sized lambs, not too big in the singles,
but back good enough to get some decent sized twins
as well.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
You'll just be a bit tight for feed at the moment.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Look, I wouldn't say any tider than other years. We'd
like it to grow, and I guess the good headstart
was that all the animals are in a really good condition,
and even some of those paddocks that are looking a
bit a bit gray, you know, shedding off. It's hard
to tell the difference between what's lambs and what hasn't lambs.
So the user really red looking good and you know

(06:01):
the grass will come.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
How are the Alliance road show meetings? Iff concluded though?
How this week? I caught up with you briefly on
Wednesday on Tuesday evening, sorry, after the Gore event. There
was a big chair out of farmers there. From your perspective,
how do you think it all went?

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I've got it was a really big turnout, which was great.
You know, we want people to show an interest and
a passion and their co op. That was number See
what number was that? That was number six. So so
far i'd done nine. We've got twenty four to go. Andy,
so we've got three weeks of it traveling the country. Hey, look,
I think it's going well. In that March mark when

(06:37):
they're chair and Villi Visa CEO are delivering a really
good message on how we got there, what the imperative is,
why we've had to make this decision, the process to
get to that, and then actually the really the really
good things about this proposal, both in terms of a
financial outcome, but just as importantly a strategic helped come.

(07:00):
And I know it does change the structure of the
co op, but we've also got to move forward, and
we don't we're not looking to survive. We've actually got
to thrive and this is what the some proposal is
going to let us do. So so you know, it's
had the ananimous recommendation from the board that we are
that we support the decision with a yes vote, and
you know we've now got to move towards that and

(07:20):
just see Alliance moving to its next stage.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
One concerned though I've heard how he is pumping more
money in. It's not going to do anything structurally for
the company in the long term.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Well, structurally, it does make a difference. And because you've
got a you've got a strategic partner with a real
proven record in markets, it gives us access to those
and we can compliment them with their strength in our markets.
But but what it does is strengthen the balance sheet.
And I look back over the last ten years when
we've been competing with a weakened balance sheet compared with

(07:51):
our you know, other three major competitors, and a lot
of the pricing decisions competitiveness has all been influenced by
that equity structure. Our balance sheet hasn't got strong enough.
You know, was it inevitable we got to this position?
I think, you know, we've had those couple of bad
years with lower profits after nine years of increasing profits.

(08:11):
But you know, the issue was there that we had
to recapitalize and if our farmer shareholders aren't prepared to
do that, we had to look elsewhere. And with saying that, Andy,
I totally recognize the pressure that our farmer shareholders have
been under. And while over the last one year, two years,
or the last ten years, they've actually been reluctant to

(08:32):
recapitalized because that money is more important on their own farm,
for debt repayment, for for R and M. So I
totally get that.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Has that been the biggest frustration from shareholders that you've gathered?
How it just that has got to the stage.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
I think it's a matter of understanding how we got
to the stage. And I guess when you went through
those years of success of increasing profit, there may have
been a belief that we'd return the corner. A lot
of that to a certain extent where our markets rise,
you know, profits can rise, and then we hit those
two big years of correction and that's the reality the

(09:09):
volatility in this market. But if you look back over
the last ten or fifteen years of Alliance's profit, it's
actually rarely modest for the size of our revenue, the
size of our business. So we've got to make a change,
and this capital and is what would allow us to
make that change.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And that's probably the other thing as well. A lot
of people saying, well, if this doesn't go through, what's
the other option? But then we talk about the way
kaya five as have been named. Of course, one of
those people involved, you know pretty well. What do you
make of this offer though? Do you think these merits
and what they're trying to do?

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Look, the first thing is Andy, you respect the view
of every shareholder, and they have a different view on
what could be achieved, and they have a view that
comes from the right space, you know, So I respect
the aspiration of what could be achieved, and also there
you know, the loyalty to the co op. What they've
gone out and said about management and board and what

(10:03):
it's been able to achieve in terms of a turnaround. Hey,
it's a great sentiment, but I just don't think there's
any reality in it. We as a board have investigated
every opportunity for that recapitalization thereafter, and quite clearly every
shareholder doesn't want to commit greater capital to the co op.

(10:23):
And if every shareholder doesn't, that means those that have
to put more and more. And I don't see an
equitable situation when you can do that when some does
and some won't. But the reality is we have to
pay that debt back by the nineteenth of December, so
in the timeframe, I believe what they're saying is completely unrealistic.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Do you think this could be the defining moment for
the red meat sector looking forward for the country.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
How we No, I don't believe it will, Andy. I
think it'll be a defining moment for Alliance. And you know,
we've been getting a lot of questioning on co op status.
You know, hindsight, it's a great thing. Foresight's interesting to Andy,
and maybe in a number of years people might look
back and say, hey, this was a pivotal turning point
for the co op. But the trouble is, you know

(11:10):
that over capacity still exists in the industry. This, this
yes vote will secure us with strong capital, with a
right sized business. So as we have to address over capacity.
We an Alliance are in a really good position with
their with our kill networks, species species breakdown. But still
the problems for the industry are there and they will

(11:31):
continue to be. You know, possibly another six to eight
plants have to close in New Zealand. No one wants
to do it because it costs money, as we demonstrated
with making that right decision with Smithfield.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
So you're pretty confident that this will go through.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, Look, confidence is not the word I'd use it, Andy,
it's to me. To me, you know, with our unanimous decision.
What we know, it's absolutely imperative that it goes through
if you want to see a continued alliance and a
strengthen alliance. And that's not only in terms of shareholder value,
that's the job for all of our that's you know,
for the for the jobs of all our salaries and

(12:06):
employee staff as well. So I think it's really important.
So all we can do is really push intelligently how
we got there, what steps have been to address and
and what the opportunity is going forward if you support
with that yes vote.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Just finally, the big question, the all back's going to
get the business over the Wallabies this weekend? Uh?

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Are you talking about confidence?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Andy? I wouldn't be confident. And I think if I
think you've got to strengthened, I think you're going to
strengthen Wallabyes forward pack. You know, home home home advantage
is always important and they've got a belief they can win,
So despite their last valid absolutely have a belief they
can win. So yeah, let's see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Are you going to survive until Sillier clock? I think
carded to eleven's kickoff.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Time don't survive much after nine o'clock on these lemming
nights at the best of time, and so I might
need a bit of fortitude to make the eleven o'clock.
I think, hey, good on you.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
How we will let you carry on, but we do
appreciate it coming on like you do.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, Oh good.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Cheers Andy Don Morrison, Willowbank farmer and the Lions board director.
You're listening to the muster, Phil Duncan of wallow Watch.
We catch up next to see the Southern forecast. What's
happening over the next seven days? Trying to catch up

(13:30):
with Phil Duncan from wellow Watch. Good afternoon, Phil Duncan.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Such an amazing greeting to have that song sung to
be Hello, good to be back.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
With you from food Fighters into a landasmrset doesn't get
any better on a frya exactly exactly, yeah right, talking
about being a hero as that song initiated. What are
we seeing? We're got blue sky today, wasn't too bad yesterday. Finally,
are we getting a sense of warmth in the southern air?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, we are a little bit. But like to be
honest with you, I think we've talked in the past
few weeks how this is a very much textbook spring
as far as the whole nation is concerned. We're getting,
you know, the mix of warm and cold. We're getting
a lot of windy westerlies, and the rainfall in eastern
areas are starting to dry out, whereas western areas are
starting to really notice it falling. And so we're in

(14:39):
a classic spring. So if you go with that mindset
and we go into October as a classic spring, this
is usually the months that in Southland is the most
jekyl and hide as far as temperatures, where one made
it is warm and the next day it's cold, and
that's kind of what we're seeing. And it really is
like almost like a traffic light system. So let me
give you an example. Today's high, you know, warm eighteen

(15:02):
nineteen degrees, Tomorrow just eleven, Sunday just nine. But by
Monday you're back to seventeen or eighteen degrees, and then
by Tuesday next week you're back down to nine. And
then the Wednesday next week you're back to seventeen degrees
and one week from now it could be twenty. So
it is really up and down, and the ups are
kind of going up further and the downs are going

(15:23):
down a little further, so we're not out of the
frost risk yet, but we're going to have more days
coming up that are going to feel warmer and more
like we're heading towards summer than the last few weeks
have been.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It sounds like a case of somebody needs to go
to Dick here and get a Peckham mix because that's
what we've got.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
That's an amazing reference. Well, yeah, I think this is
the first time in an interview I've had Gecket reference. Right.
It is. It's a mixed bag, it really is. Everything's
thrown at us. And overall rainfall in Southland or particularly
around Gore is still leaning a little bit wet, but
it's not leaning a lot wetter than usual. In fact,

(16:01):
it may even be slightly below normal. So that's a
bit of a balancing act because I know you've had
a fair bit of we're they're passing through over the
last few months.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Mate. We had snow yesterday morning or Wednesday morning.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
I know that even showed up on our forecast about
a week ago. So yeah, decent cold change coming through.
In fact, I singled out northern Southland to my weather
videos because it was the northern Southland and parts of
Otago were by far the coldest. It was minus Oh
my memory's gone and rebailed the exact temperature, but I
believe it was minus six in middle March in Otago

(16:36):
and at the same time it was plus seventeen degrees
up in Kaitaire.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It was minus six yesterday or the other morning. Cam
Nicholson based up there in Either Valley, Texas through minus six,
So that's a.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Pretty big temperature gradient from one end of New Zealand
to the other, a twenty three degree difference at the
same time of the morning. So yeah, that's a classic
spring set up when it's like.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
That, and we had the frost yesterday morning. Are we
going to see many more over the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I don't think we're going to be seeing lots of them,
but I think we are still going to be seeing
a few of them. The next chance of a frost
looks to be overnight Sunday going into Monday, overnight temperatures
down around zero minus one minus two. That is possible,
but all through next week it doesn't really look frosty.
So yeah, Monday morning is the frost risk does look

(17:22):
quite likely, but after that doesn't look as likely. The
overnight temperatures do vary, you know, next week, sort of
around five degrees to nine degrees, so it's not that
cold really, certainly not nine degrees. That's not too bad
at all, But yeah, fives are in the mix.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Too, that favorite media term weather bomb. Is there anything
like that as we try and get through the end
of landing and garving. No.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
In fact, the easiest way to sum up the next
ten days is westerlyes. Westerlies are the dominating force around
New Zealand. Now there'll be a bit of a mixture
this weekend because there's a low moving in, so the
whinen's going to be all three hundred and sixty degrees
at some point. But once that low moves through, by
the time we get to Sunday and into Monday, we're

(18:07):
back into southwesters and westerlies. And those westerlies are blowing
through all of next week off and on some days
a bit blustery, other days not too bad. But that
is the general theme for the next ten to fifteen days. Actually,
a lot of westerly wind in there for you guys.
Probably yet next week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday could be a
bit windy, and there may well be some wind warnings

(18:29):
issued around that time, whether or not it's that bad
for you around Gore. Maybe more of a western Southland
sort of setup.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Some commentators are talking about a lannin your weather system
on the horizon. What do you make of that?

Speaker 4 (18:43):
So we are looking at the potential of Larnina forming
in the next couple of months. It's going to be
one of those things that we probably won't really notice it.
The latest thinking is that Larnina may come in very
briefly and then be gone again by summer. So with
that kind of meret jhomen, you know, where do we
all notice that? Down here in New Zealand. I'm skeptical,

(19:04):
especially because our weather's been dominated by westerlies, and westerlies
are not Blaminia. That's the opposite fact. We get easterlies
with lardninia. So if you got dominating westerly that is
overriding everything in this part of the world, good luck
to anything up in the tropics coming down and you know,
having a fight with the westerly flow. There's a reason

(19:25):
why it's called the Roaring forties. And you know, these
these tropical systems try to come down and we may
see that, we may see a couple of low pressure
zones drop down from the tropics. That's a sign of lamina.
So we'll be monitoring for that. But at the moment,
the westerly flow is certainly going to be dominating the
first half of this month.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Describe the term Roaring Forties. Great name for a band,
by the way, I don't know if it ever took off.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
So it's yeah, the latitude latitude that you're in and
so if you know, we basically see between the forty
degree mark and fifty degrees on the map, that's that
the area that so it goes up to. Sorry, let
me just get this right because it's on my website
and I should be able to clearly say this I wrote.
I wrote this opinion piece under our education section at

(20:09):
where to watch dot co, dot MZ that actually explains
the Roaring forties. So the Roaring Forties comes up to
the covers the entire South Island and it comes up
to the lower North Island. So Wanganui is exactly on
the line there, so south of that that is the
Roaring forties, and so it's just a very windy belt
of weather, because really the only land that it interacts

(20:30):
with is chas Mania and the South Island. As it
comes in from South America, it goes all the way
around the globe, missus, South Africa, misses most of Australia,
and that's called the Roaring Forties because it doesn't have
land to slow it down, so it just comes in
and really really knocks us around.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Well, you hear about these around the world yacht races
having to get the Roaring forties. I suppose, yeah, that's
that's right.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yes, you know, you've got so south of New Zealand,
you've got the roaring You've got the Roaring forties over us.
And then you go south of of the Auckland Islands,
so well south of you guys, and you've got the
Furious fifties. And you go south of that and you've
got the Screaming sixties. And the Screaming sixties is the
belt of whether that circles and hugs Antarctica itself on

(21:13):
the outer edges of it over the southern Ocean. So
Roaring forties, Furious fifties, Screaming sixties sounds like our ages.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Speak for yourself, sir.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm happily at the roaring forties for a little bit longer, can.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
On your Phil Duncan. We'll let you think about Decker
for a little bit longer and go and get yourself
some of those hard jobs. God well played, sir, Enjoy
the week.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Thank you you too, Bunny.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Phil Duncan. Quite possibly the best sound effect that station's
ever heard. This is a muster on Hakanui.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Up next the shell Wafts and the Country Crossover.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's time for the Country Crossover. Executive producer of the
Country Michelle Watt joins us out of duneeding. Good afternoon,
Finally we have some blue.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Sky, finally right as summer here. I mean, I'm crossing
my fingers, but I'm not sure yet. We're not quite
at the not yet. It could still be a little
bit of erratic until November, couldn't it.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well. The Southland spring in particular is notorious for being
anything but predictable.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
Oh it's always like this, right, I mean, I remember
when I lived up in Central Otago many many years ago,
and getting a dumping of snow in October was actually
not that unusual. And back in the old days, you know,
we're skiing. I remember we didn't go skiing, or the
skifields didn't really open until like late July August, you know,
them opening in sort of June May now is actually
really early. If you go back to the in the past,

(22:55):
I want to say olden days, but I don't have
them old enough to say olden days?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Andy, what appears what you call?

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Like?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Wait, the conversation the other day with Pete gard On
about what constitute is an old farmer and we got
a bit of feedback over it. It was interesting. But look,
it's been a fascinating couple of days. Look Shennon and
the boys were you to fly up north to go
to Hamilton. Now, they were due to leave on Wednesday,
but the weather didn't play ball. Of course, that plane

(23:21):
had to go back to from inmbercargo to Christrich didn't land,
and that same flight was due out on the Wednesday,
but it got canceled and so they got rebooked for
yesterday morning. But this is crazy, right, So they get
to the airport, it's to later we but then they
get in the year they run into a heap of
ducks flying around. So what happened was they circled the
airport long enough for them to clear the runway from

(23:43):
all the cannas running into all these ducks, and they
landed back in the v cargo nuts and boltzeres the
back home and gore. The flight's got canceled and Shennon
decided for likes of the work and the holiday because
it was a working trip as well. On the plus side,
theo's really Toffy goes. It didn't even have to go
to a my Miami duck. Houn's gone up for the
year already.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
Well, at least he's looking at the positive side of
things there, Andy, But no more bachelor weekend for you.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
No, I wasn't going to where's myself and Darcy the dog.
We're going to be watching cricket. There is cricket on
Telly at the moment, thank you. Who is it? India
against West Indies for peteze the West Indies coincidentally coming
to New Zealand for two tests pre Christmas and a
bit of rugby on the TV. But no, nonetheless, it's
just the end of a summer holidays. Let's try the
September holidays so parents get a bit of breathing space

(24:30):
from Monday.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
Absolutely, and I think talking about the cricket and the weather.
It doesn't really feel like it's time does it for cricket,
Like with the cold weather we've had. I really hope
it warms up by November when the West Indies come
down here to de need it.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
But interesting today on your show you had Hugh Jackson
George Dobson as well and talking about farm succession. I'll
tell you what, there some really cool things happening in
the young farmer's space. It's a really cool, really cool segment.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
Oh, it's absolutely fantastic. I mean, these young farmers are
what though, they're so smart, so onto it, so clued
up on things, and you know, talking about succession from
a young farmer point of view. Such an interesting topic
because I think the average age of farmers now is
predicted to be like sheep and beef farmers in particular,
is around fifty nine years old, which you know, when
you think about it, who is going to step into

(25:19):
those into those gun boots in the next sort of
you know, twenty years time or are those farmers planning
to be there until the adm and they may be.
I do know some farmers are still out there walking
the hills looking after the perandals at eighty years old.
But I'm pretty sure that most people would rather be
in retirement mode somewhere nice, not walking the hills. But
you know, it's an interesting concept, and it'll be interesting

(25:41):
to get more points of view from those young farmers
and those younger ones trying to get land and trying
to get their own farm, and they're taking different pathways
into that.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Farm ownership has definitely changed for what it was a
few years ago, and farm succession is something that everybody
has to go through and more often than not, it
doesn't go the way that people actually hopes. So just
one of those things in life. A spot, yeah, one
hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
I think, you know, when we were younger, I knew
a lot of young guys that I was friends with
that you know, went to Australia and money and the
minds came back and brought into the family farm. So
they worked really hard to come back and be able
to do that. And likewise, I know other families have
taken different paths where they've got shares or they've got
in a family trust and all sorts of things like
there's all sorts of ways that people can get into that.

(26:24):
But it's really difficult if you're starting from that bottom,
their absolute bottom rung. I think you really have to
work your way in and have a bit of a plan.
But I think these young ones are definitely you know,
they're very clued up. They've got a plan, they know
what they want and they know what they want to do,
which is fantastic and we need more young people like that.
And speaking of great young people, the Zanda McDonald Award
applications opened this week, so there's a chance for any

(26:47):
great young minds out there working in the primary industry,
no matter what industry you're in, to go along and
put your application in because some great, great opportunities from that,
even if you don't win as an alumni or you know,
getting to go to the awards as a fantastic thing.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Mental Health Awareness Week next week as well, is coming
up to the weekend. We're encouraging people to get off farm.
You know you're into your fitness. What are you doing
for fun this weekend? Biking depict in on something.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Not quite picked in, but I will be getting out
and I've got some training stuff organized because I've got
an event that I'm actually training for. But yeah, exercises
a big part of me and what I do to
get out and about and feel better about things. And
I think there's lots of ways that you can get
out and about and make sure that you do get
off connect with other people as well, like really important
to do that and I think sometimes We had a

(27:32):
great chat with the Dan Parks, who is a rural
mental health advocate during this week from Ancient Farm Strong
Champion as well about how women sometimes carry that invisible load,
you know, so they're the ones there a rock on
the farm, you know, they're the ones they are standing
up for everything and they feel like they have to
be strong for everybody in the whole family, and inside
they're actually crumbling. So keeping an eye out, I think

(27:54):
for those little signs where your friends or neighbors or
someone maybe even heard from them for a while, maybe
you've no just a slight change in how they're acting,
you know, just checking on them, connect with them and
maybe check out what's going on.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Just finally, the MPC the last round. Ironically, Harbor are
favorites against the Stags. And even though the Harbor North
Harbor hasn't won a game this year, but you've got
Auckland away Auckland. This has been like an Annis horribillis
for the Blues franchises or the Blues franchise of their
provincial teams.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Yeah, it will be really interesting because I think a
Targo are still sitting second on that table, aren't they.
I think at the moment if they've moved. So that's
fantastic for a Targo. We have to shield. I mean,
we've got it all. Really, We've got the fair Apalmer
Cup as well. I mean, you know, it's awards all
over the place down here. They have to build a
bigger ballroom down at the stadium to keep them all in.
But you know, I really hope it's that old battle

(28:47):
isn't at Auckland to Tago, and it's always going to
be a battle. Hopefully Targo can pull it off for
the Stags and your game. Who knows is it Wooden
spoone territory.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
No, we don't get the spoon that is harb as
one hundred percent. I mean Harbor's last, we second last,
Auckland's third last, MANEO two's fourth last, to put it
that way. So look, it's been an interesting season and
I've tried to use use of comparison. Talking to a
few correspondents, would you rather be a middle of the
road team about six or seventh consistently, or wo'd you

(29:20):
rather have a season like Southland where it's been a
wild trip to Vegas where you go in the shield,
then you lose by sixty to fifty points for the
next three or four weeks, but you do have the
shield for a week.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
I tell you what, I've loved this MPC season. It's
had all the drama, all the roller coaster rides that
provincial rugby should have, and it's great to see it
back and I think, yeah, actually, you know what, Southland
great team to watch because they've had some real up
and downs, but they're still in there, hanging in there,
and it's just been fantastic to see that shield sort
of move around quite a few different regions for a

(29:51):
change rather than just staying in one. I think that's
that's what's made it really exciting the season.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Good on you, Michelle, Enjoy the weekend. Antler's Up, Handler's Up, Mate,
ow what and the Country Crossover. This is the muster Terada,
the voice of the Young Farmer Competition, also known as
Andrew Lumsdon. We catch up next mony, Welcome back to

(30:22):
the muster. The music is the Food Fighter? Is that
song there Monkey Wrench from back in the mid nineties.
As we catch up next with Andrew lums And you're
known as Terada, the voice of New Zealand Young Farmer
of the Year of the New Zealand Young Farmer of
the Year competition. That is Terader Welcome. We catch you
in Queenstown today.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
I believe yes, I am transiting through Queenstown. I'm on
my way to heart for the tenth anniversary or tenth
tense White Boat Festival, So got a beautiful drive ahead
of me. I'm looking forward to a little bit of
hask hospitality and it should be fun, gorgeous weather, beautiful flying.
And I was at the water conference and Coint and
christ at your week International Water Conferences, so we have

(31:02):
never flown Queenstown or Christix queens Town, so it's kind
of what a gorgeous flight that is.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Now it's been a couple of months since Hugh Jackson
got the chocolates and number Cargill actually July to be precise,
So what have you what have you been doing after
over the last few months?

Speaker 8 (31:18):
Look as regusting is trying to und up the other day. Actually,
I saw a photo of that on the old Instagram.
We've been pretty flat out. Actually, we've been various corporates
and things like that.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I wonder it was field days Field just before or
after that.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Was before that was the middle of joke, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
It all just blends into one. And I know district's
finals or district district competitions are starting for that. But
we've been pretty flat out. We're doing a lot of
promotion at the Moment've going to book out this week
on Rural New Zealand and a hundred Objects. That's called
Kiwi Country, and my wife is my co writer and collaborator,
has been for sort of twenty odd years. We looked
at a hundred one hundred different objects and we tried

(31:54):
to find really interesting in cookie sort of stories that
we hadn't seen anyone tell before, to cell rate all
those little things about what it means to be part
of rural New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
So that hit the.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Stawes on Monday.

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Haven't seen it in this store yet because I've me
touched away, but I'm looking forward up. I call them
a wanker and see if I can see it in
the store there give.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
An example of one of these objects.

Speaker 8 (32:13):
All right, actually the very first, the very first one.
And I think this was relatively inadvertent as done it.
We looked at it at Duney because when you've got
a hundred objects, it's very hard to figure out, you know,
what the hundred are going to be. So we narrowed
it down into ten different sections of homestead, almost as
if the way you approach approach a rural property homestead

(32:34):
all the way through to back blocks and gravel roads.
So Dunny is there. I particularly like the box on hedge,
one of the Butler brothers box thorn hedge cut of
blades that you can find in either Tafty or the
Pokiates in museum. These incredible big composite bits of steel
and iron that they've welded together in their sheds and

(32:54):
they've stuck them on a tank or a truck motor
and mounted dog on the back of a truck or
a brain gun car. And look attack those boxtorn edges
up there in Tartanuki and they're just when you see them,
they're they're like a work of art there, they're sculptural.
You can see that the hundreds of hours of where
on them. I love them.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You talk about bring gun carriers an individual of Bell
and Noah Holland used to own one of them, and
every year that have an event, I mean to bring
it into Bell for part of the parade, take kids
for rides in it. It was an epic machine.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
Oh, they're a great machine as well. And we sort
of reference a little bit of that Keev engineer with
a simple tank in there as well, But plenty of
other things that people recognize. You know, I really like
the chapter on bunge of cords. If there's any advice
I could give to anyone based upon did the research
for one hundred objects, be really careful around bungee cords
so notorious for iron injuries? Just you know that I

(33:46):
think most iron injuries are just got caused by a
bunge of cord here. But also very useful, as it
turns out, we discovered or for tightening fake uteruses. When
it comes to practicing at that scholl of various things
like that, you can get the various serious stagism. Just
tighten up the fake uterus bag with a bit of

(34:07):
a bunge called.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Classic sounds very Carey now hast as a beautiful town.
I'll be honest, I haven't been through there for quite
a while. But when you head through that way on
the as a gateway to the West Coast and the likes,
it's a really cool place.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
Look, I'm now, I don't know that I've ever been.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
I know I've been real.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
Because I know I filmed down there. I don't know
whether I've got as far as Heart and now I'm
fooling the increasingly failing memory banks that I have. I
know I've certainly I don't think I've ever driven Highway
six Wanica.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Har we are Heart.

Speaker 8 (34:44):
Maybe this is a new.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Experience for me.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, where you go, don't get lost, and I hope
you've got the GPS sort of.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
Look, I'm just going to keep driving until I have
to see. But I'm looking forward to wouldn't mind getting
down to Jackson Bay. And I know that the people
who are taking me over the center a long checklist
of scenic spots that I can stroll to, including I
think Roaring Billy Falls and various others. So I'm going
to have a beautiful day.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
So just finally, mate, when do you start up again
with the Young Farmer contests. So you involved the districts
at all.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
No, I have nothing to do with the districts other
than sort of keeping an eye on their social media.
I think we're back mid February, and I think we
start Otago Southron where we finished off, and we head
up through the various I think Kasman and Old Angie,
and then we're into the North Island. And it's a
little isn't it that wonderful seasonal reminder that life continually

(35:33):
moves on. You know, You've got your your field days,
you've got your grandfather, and you've got your carving or
your lemming, and then you've got your districts, and then
your head your regionals and then then you start all
over again.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, we're talking about it in the office this morning. Mentally,
it feels like we're so should only be in April.

Speaker 8 (35:47):
Oh, I cannot believe how fast this year's gone. You know,
I'm already now sort of planning. I've got quite a
lot of stuff coming up towards the end of this month,
and that's and then that's November, and then by the
time November's done and dust, it will be into December,
and you know, it'll be.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Summertime, Christmas trees a routing about at the moment to radar,
But nonetheless you enjoy your time up there in beautiful hearts.
We'll catch up again.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Brilliant.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Thank you, Andrew Lamson to radar, the voice of New
Zeon Young Farmer's Younk Farm of the Year competition. Logan
Savery from the South and Tribune's up next. Logan Savery

(36:40):
of the South and Tribune joins us before we wrap
up another week here on the musters. Save good afternoon.
It's a blue bird filled afternoon sky here in the South.
It's brilliant.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Don't just left everyone's mood. Don't it a beautiful day?
And to have it come on a Friday, how good?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Absolutely, just hope that move continues to the stacks. And
I tell you what, they're underdogs against North Harbor. Harbor
hasn't won a game this year. Southland's just head to
head two seventy. I think it might be like over
six bucks for thirteen plus. I mean Southlands that second
half last week show what they can do. But it
was just a spree and a half games before that

(37:17):
where it all went to cack.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
I mean I was a bit surprised as well by that.
I mean, I guess the bookmakers have gone looked at
three and a half a week before that half against
kits and Nadadan going well that they haven't been They're great,
but look we're special teams up on paper and have
got far more fire power than North North Harbor and
should actually get the job done to it tonight if

(37:42):
they played the potential. So yeah, I was a bit
surprised too, So we'll see what I'm It's really important
to finish the season while I think for the stakes
for many different reasons.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Really well of those.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And we think back to twelve months ago roundabouts since time,
remembering we are up forty five to seven at halftime
against team, but twelve months is a long time in sport, right.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah, that was one of the more bizarre days and
set on rugby. There was absolutely day like today, absolutely
cracking out Ragby Park and then all of a sudden
we was looking around to have a what's going on?
Forty five seven or whatever it was at half done.
As you said, this doesn't happen, So look, a.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
Performance close to that tonight would be it would be
a great one to finished.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
One of your articles the other day talking of James
Wilson saying it's important we having a good finish for
next year. But it's the same old reality being a
Southern rugby fan. How many of this team is going
to be veer in twelve months time.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
Yeah, I think there will be. You will be turnover
because some some players you know, probably haven't played their
way into a new contract. I think the key will
be the keyp the you know, the main player. So
you're talking SUBMISSI to potal fell to opening with the
what's not do? I understand that that a lot of

(38:58):
those guys will bet which, But just looking at the season,
I think we definitely liten disappointment. I think internally it
rode myself and I felt that they put together a
team that could give the playoffs to shape this shit
and probably should have. And I guess after when I
won those three games in the trot, there was every
every intention that that could be in case it probably

(39:20):
need to get to I don't know about six ones
to get there they want. Tonight they won, they'd be
the fourth one. So they won four games in the season. Disappointment,
I think not to make the playoffs. I guess then
the half class full side would say, well, it's actually
been I get to go back to two thousand and

(39:40):
four and to find a self and team that's won
four games in an NBC season. So if they get
up tonight, they they matched that. But you're right, there's
a there's a bit of a groundhole day about it.
We seem to get at this time of the year
and to look at the challenges we have and we
can go long and half we can keep the came
together and blah blah blah, and we got to go

(40:03):
over to the surground again and then were rolling with the
next season and we have the same conversation. So yeah,
there's probably there's probably some some key positions and if
they get a strike center fallback, you know in a
couple of hand auditions would would be good. But that
you be getting super quality players, super quality players that

(40:25):
costs money. So yeah, there's there's there's a bit of
work during the last season to get towards the excellent season.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I would have thought, so how do we view this season.
There's the possibility of four wins that it was looking
so good for so long that I don't know to
those couple of days on the drink derailed the season
perhaps and just change focus injuries. How do you look
at it.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
I definitely think in hindsight that they will probably would
have done a few things different after that. S when
I mean, I did think at the time, a six
day turnaround against the quality Canterbury team, you know, in
a couple of days celebration. Uh, you know, I don't
want to take anything away from them. They deserve to celebrate,

(41:09):
but you know, maybe the link that went probably in
hindsight wasn't was an ideal and they got tied up
against Canterbury. Look, we struggled against that Enery team they played,
even if they came off a fresh thing. But then
they really fluted after that. I think, you know, really
disappointing run. I mean, not just the fact that they

(41:32):
lost some of those games in the fashion that they lost,
they lost them, which was really disappointing. You know, we
felt like in the last few seasons were starting to
cut out those real blowouts and even games that they
lost last season, they were really in the in the
flight in the game. And that happened that the run

(41:53):
of the last pre or four games. That's the disappointing thing.
I think you have to say disappoint because we must.

Speaker 9 (42:02):
Quarter finals and I think even of.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
This competition, they had a real shot that they could
have been playing Piles this year. That just got a
little bit more after that round.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
For the short victory, we'll get a shout out as well.
Josh Evans making the New Zealand And eighty five kg team.
He played for Woodies this year ended up in christ
Church and I love the name for these teams. The
Silverdale Truffle Pigs had a lot of players as the
Josh's team, the high school Old Boys light Bears, or
there are players from Auckland University slug Collectors. The under

(42:36):
under eighty five competition though, seem to be a pretty
good one.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
I think it's it's a real future for his genre.
But you know, we talk about often talk about the
Gama Agy Binks. That just about size and physicality and
at that high and Josh Evans is prime example. Really
good club wordlands gets the job. Yeah, he was really

(43:01):
good this season. It just probably didn't have that size
to go to the next level. But this under eighty
five hours group provitch of the opportunities for those really
good players and that that size bracket, they have a
good cracket.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Rug.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
That is a great story Josh Evans making that national
team and yeah, I think it's that growth and that
under eighty four kg competition or whenever it was going
to be huge in the coming years.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Good on you save the South in Triview, we always
appreciate your time and was that one last time? May
why not?

Speaker 6 (43:37):
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Speaker 1 (43:52):
Was telling me, I was sick. I was into the
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my son. So my son is now my father in law.
And as the father of my father in law, I
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Speaker 3 (44:08):
You are.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Sounds complicated, sounds a bit different. Nonetheless, that's what we've
got for a Friday. Let's leave it there. Hey enjoyed this.
Wee the hell good. My name is Andy Muy. You've
been listening to the muster on Hakanui. Thanks for Peter's
genetics Antler's up, Go the abs.