October 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Andy Muir talks to Blair Drysdale, Jeff Grant, Ben Dooley, Snr Sgt Gary Iddenton and Andrew Welsh.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakawie. My
name is Andy Miller. I'm here until two o'clock thanks
to Peterson Nix. Appreciate your company. You hope the weekend
didn't go too badly. The Raincoat now doubt got a
bit of a workover Thursday and Friday. So good to
have blue Sky and by all accounts, I think it's
coming back later on in the week. We'll talk with
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it shortly. A big weekend of sport, the all next
to the Business sober and Perith against the Wallaby's the
Stag season. Wow, North Harbor got their first one. Let's
leave it at that. The netbook saga between Nipple New
Zealand and Dan nol in Taro just continues on, though
certainly not putting New Zealand Nipple New Zealand in the
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Shining Light and the Broncos winning the NRL in the
hell of a game of rugby League last night.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Use it for the hour haul of notes.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
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a breezy to brisk westerly's eight and twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Wednesday partly cloudy.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yay, we're breezy to brisk north westerlies nineteen seventeen. Thursday sunny,
we breezing or westerlyies eleven and twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That's better.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And Friday morning showers of breezing nor west is six
and eighteen. So temperatures Clinton eight point eight, Harriet seven
point five, Northern south On eight point five, Riverton ten,
Tiana nine point three, Tidoro a nine, Winter eight point three,
and Woodlands nine point three. Blair Drysdale. The bell for
starts us off for a Monday afternoon follow up by
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Jeff Grant commenting on the alliance proposal.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Now, Jeff thinks is a.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Bit more of this to think about rather than just
ticking the box for this door meets proposal.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So Jeff talks.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
About that, and then we actually talk about it in
a bit more detailed as well, with Ben dooleague and
why Ben thinks he's thinking opposite. Actually he's thinking this
needs to happen. Senior Sergeant Gary Eddington from the Good
Police has a chat and Andrew Walsh o toWin farm
genetics as well, so some more holler notes. We'll start
the l with the Blair Drysdale. This is the muster
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until two o'clock, thanks for Peter Genetics. Blair Drysdale Farms
just out of Belfer and mixed farming operation there and
he joins us in the Sergeant Dan farming ground up
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thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock. Food's here in the main
street of Gorge. Just off it blocker, good afternote.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Good afternoon, and you will just a little bit cold.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But not too bad. It hasn't rained so far today,
but look it's just been an interesting spring after what
we had last year.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And you just jinxed today it'll rain and it's forecas
to rain, so you let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
The yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We've got to have that concrete just getting just a
little bit more moisture on top of it though, just
to keep that feeling going right.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh and you've got to laugh for iucid cry. I
mean I said just so many times that you'd never
get to springs and the road like the last one,
and admittedly where nowhere near is wet, that's for sure,
but it's probably colder and we've had less sunshine and
just talking off here, we're talking and you said about
Ma's been having four hundred milimeters September. They've got my
sympathy because that is a shit ton of rain and
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that is not great. I guess it hangs around for
a while term and we're waiting for water logging to
disappear on that it's still and have done next to
no aggwork.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I slipped to his home for the school holidays and
hoping to get a heap of airs and the tractor
and earn some money. And you know he could be
on one while I was on the other. We did nothing.
So yeah, very I think frustrating is probably the key
word for most people, mister Jodie going down the lane. Yes,
they lame. They're looking a little bit white and washed out.
You know, they haven't had a lot of stun and
year grasses long disappeared like the here dairy heifers here there,
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we're only just keeping enough grass in front of them
and supplementing them as well. So yeah, it really is
a somewhat of a repeat last year. So hopefully October
peels it's bloody head and smartly, or else there's going
to be some very pissed off people.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Did you have a frost this morning?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He had a frost this morning, And we had a
We had a good one one day last week? Was
it a company?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
What day?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We had a rub of frost and then it snowed
on top of it, the snow freezing? Was that Wednesday? Yes,
she was an interesting morning. But look outside there today,
it's just it's like a July day. We had frost
with fog. The fog bugged off pretty quick and the
sun poked out and then it came in overcast, and
it's it's probably only two degrees out there at the moment,
maybe three, I don't know. It's not very body warm,
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is that first thing? This morning? Loading grain? And I
don't often get cold feet, but here my feet were
cold at the time I got them back inside for
coffee o' clock. So yeah, it's just cold. All teams
are cold. Nothing's really moving that fast, grass crops absolutely nothing.
So yeah, there's a long road ahead of us.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yet I reckon you might have jinxed it yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Actually, there'd you talk about wearing shorts all year round?
You're one of those crew. How do you put trousers on?
Maybe it'll warm up.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I had a day last week I had to because
I wouldn't go outside of the bike. Actually might have
been that snowy mining I was. I'd bugger this, this
is ridiculous. So I actually flipped the pants on that
morning for first there if they were out around the bike.
But other than that, yet, they don't feel it too much,
to be fair, and it's just something I've gotten used to,
and I don't like wearing pants very much at all.
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I do wear in public just to be short of
live when I'm out clarification, I do wear pants.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, okay, say no more. But we just look at
the situation we're faced with us. So ground works pretty
much your main thing you're trying to get on with
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It would really like to get asiambrascas in the ground,
you know, shortly, but I'm not going to put them in.
And they still teams, so you know, that's a solid
ten anyway. They can stay in the back door then
and then yeah, pease want peas and you know peas
and spring barley in before label weekend would be really nice,
but there's have have a lot of work to do
before then now, so yeah, there's a weave it gone on.
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Still we're pretty you know, found enough windows to spraying
and fur. I'm up to date on that front. There's
still one pat it to spray out for peas. It's
just finding you know, like I was hapen to do
it later this morning, but the grass is still covered
in jew it's overcast and here I think it's actually
mean to blow before it rains. So yeah, there's just
not a lot of windows to spraying and even doing
you know for it. It's been hard. You've been fighting
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norwis so one day last week where I just had
to give up for about six hours and it was
that that was one about eighty k's got up too,
so had to give up in that. So it has
been challenging, It's no doubt about that. But I guess
that's why tractors have lights. We just do moras and
find windows when we can.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But here's a good news story. The environment south into
a wards happened again. Friday evening past you were down
there the bullies at Longers. They're doing some pretty cool
stuff on farm there their own country calendar a few
years ago and they were featured.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, and you know, I'm part of the Balfa Caption
group both Christ and Andrew, and they've always been leaders
farming in that environmental aspect of a beautiful farm. They
put a lot of time, energy, resources and expense into
it and making improvements without necessarily being prior to they
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disorder of their own accords. So yeah, we're down there
with them on Friday night. So here congrats to Andrew
and Christ. They took out the Environmental Leadership and Farming Award,
which is really cool. So yeah, all the family was there,
which is really nice.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Though.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's a really good evening. I think what really took
the cake at the end of night was the eleven
year old boy from town now who took out the
Councilor's Award for what it does around place that recycling.
So it's quite inspiring and you get kids that age,
you know, starting to do there but for the community,
so that's really good and it's actually you know, if
anyone's kan, it's a really good evening to go to
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good networking evening as well. And that's quite inspiring what
some people do, and you don't. Christ nailed it when
he was up there talking. You know, you don't have
to do a lot, You just do lots of little
things in bite sized chunks and it adds up over time.
So I think that's a really important message that you
don't have to go spend the kens of thousands of
dollars in one hat and it's worked on the little
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bite chunks and just slowly work away at it and
chip away at it over time.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's the saying I once heard about eating an elephant.
It's not in one big, smaller sports setting, but just
over time, taking little bites to add to the collective goods.
So that's pretty much been Christ's.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Approach definitely, and I think it's the majority of people's approach.
And it's a it's a good approach too, because you
also don't want to rush into big projects that perhaps
isn't the best money spent either. So you know, there's
plenty of expertise out there that you and tap into
around you know, building a wetland, seven ponds, et cetera,
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et cetera. So and also grants they can get so
you don't have to do all these things alone either.
So it's important to you people go out and investigate,
you know, the help they can get.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Sporting highlight for the weekend. What was it for you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Broncos getting up? That was good to see. I got
that bloody tired. I couldn't watch all the second half
and went to bed and thought it was a bit
of a foregone conclusion in the Melbourne way. Anyway, wake
up first this morning and clicked on the news and
damn had one, so I was pretty stoked. But yeah,
had a busy weekend. Sport was one night there was
like I said to you, I had cricket on one screen,
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Formula one on another, and the rugby on another, so
it's a bit heaped up. I don't really watch Formula one,
but Craig and Jeanette Collins over there for the daughter
honor for the Formula one and we have a laser
Kiwi flag and a and our duck shooting heart where
we stay in these strokes. A lot kind of take
laser Kiwi flag to try and get it on the telly.
So that's why I've been watching a wee bit of that,
but haven't seen the laser Kiwi flag yet. But anyway,
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but yeah, great weekend sport. To see the AB's get
up as well. I was somewhat dubious with her what
or not? Anyway, it was all pretty good. Sister Staggs
which I forgot to watch because I thought it was
on Saturday not Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
He didn't miss out on the thing, trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He didn't miss out on much.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Look Recee Welsh last night. If you haven't seen these highlights,
go and watch this guy. He's just the most He's
the biggest thing going in rugby league at the moment,
more so than Nathan Cleary, which is saying something. Every
time he's near the ball, something happens. And regardless what
you think of the guy, all the Broncos is an organization.
You have to respect that they won that competition of
the way that they have, but they're one of them
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such a manner that they're wanting people. If they're watching them,
it's a case of what are they going to do next?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah, and lot Recee Welsh.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's young, he's only twenty three. He is far from
the biggest man on the field that by how he
is strong both physically and mentally, and he's pretty good
at reading a game and knowing where he needs to
be what he he proved last night, so he's got
a massive future ahead of him yet that man. So
for shame we didn't get up in the cricket black Caps.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But it's October.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Who's watching cricket at the start of October haven't even
started the club?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, I mean we watched Super Rugby and February, so
the arguments the same.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, but the weather is a bit more conducing for
rugby than what it is for cricket in New Zealand
at this time of year.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I don't know there's.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
A fair argument against that too, but yeah, there's a
massive difits least from the ground, that's for sure the
other night. But it's a shame it had rained prior
to that match. Yeah, I think it would have been
slightly different had it not rained. But anyway, that's job
done and Ozzie had to sweep the eerious.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, absolutely good on your block. I always appreciate your
time and please, for the love of God put some
pencil on all right.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
We'll do cheers.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Andy Blair Dreis and the Sergeant Dan Farming round Up.
Thanks for Sergeant Dan Stock foods here and Gore Chief
grand Is up next.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Actor the Muster.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Jeff Grant these days Northern Southern business owner joins us
in our political roundup for a Monday afternoon Jeff, how
are you good?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Thanks? Andy?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
How are you pretty good?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We just need a bit of big yellow in the
sky just to get that grass ticking over.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'd say yes without any doubt. We're starting to find
the spring being a bit tight and tough, and look
most of it's around. Just the continual grizzly rain and
then getting another twenty five mills and weekend just sort
of makes it hard to keep self happy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This alliance proposal with Dawn Meats the Waikaia Fives come
on board in the last couple of weeks with a counterproposal.
What's going to happen through all of us is interesting
because the more people I speak to, it's a case
of as a resignation of if we don't say yes,
well we don't really want to think about what happens
after that.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, I think, look perously, it's always going to be
difficult for somebody to put up a counter proposal. As
I understand for the group, they have not been able
to get the information memorandum which others obviously had as
part of the process. The reality is that they seem
to be reasonably confident around credible options in terms of
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future funding. I think the difficulty is that the price
and the deal looks really good eighteen months ago, but
since then, you know, things have turned around significantly. Appears
at Alliance have turned around an eighty million dollar position
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for the year in a season that hasn't had a
peak flow where you know you've had the volume coming in.
So the ship from seventy million loss to a twenty
million profit is a really good turnaround. But look in
this deal, effectively you're giving away fiercely sixty five percent
of all future profits. Secondly, you're giving away one hundred
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and ninety one sixty five percent of one hundred and
ninety one million tax loss. That's what the shareholders have
had to wear over the last two years. That sixty
five percent of the benefit of that's now it would
go on this deal. I think that if you look
at the multiple in terms of sale price, to give
you an example, Blue Sky, I think last time was
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around six percent six times. The multiple silver fir and
farms in the Chinese deal was about six times multiple.
This is only at four So what you're doing is
selling a business that eighteen months ago looked pretty shaky
on the price of the basis of eighteen months ago.
But the reality is, I think that your business has
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turned around significantly, has the capacity with support of shareholders,
to rescue the company in Trustly, I don't think the
shareholders of Line should be responsible for the whole of
the meat industry in terms of any consolidation or were
at the cost of that. I think you know, you've
got to remember as part of that debt they've created
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over the last two years, that debt has predominantly been
driven by a couple of activities. One is an IT
system that costs a lot more than was initially intended,
around eighty million dollars, and then a life drank slafe
that came driven out of the basis of selling Smithfield.
That cost to the company was another forty eight million.
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So on the basis that these core debt costs weren't
because of three, weren't because of decline and kill or
anything else. They were two separate incidents, and on top
of that, being slightly overweighted with LAMB and being too
slow to move on the China market, which we have
commented on before. Those three factors have driven the company
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to be where it is. I don't think on the
basis of its historical ability to provide killing capacity in
this especially in the South Island, that farmers should give
it all away.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Do you see any positives in this.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Our ABDORMENTA a good company internationally recognized in terms of
especially in the beef sector, so you know there's synergies
around the northern hemisphere in the southern hemisphere. But I
think this sort of conception that's been developed in terms
of the process that the road says, except that this
is a joint venture, it is not a joint venture.
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This is a hul of sixty five percent of the
co op which will never get back. There's an argument
quite strongly that there will need to be more consolidation
in terms of the meat industry and rationalization or use
of plants. There's nothing in this proposal that deals with that.
And I also say this alliance Seyholder have already lost
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equity of around two hundred million. Why should they then
produce the loss of more equity, which they're going to
effectively do in order to get some rationalization in the
meat industry. There will be no rationalization of the industry
because of this deal.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just finally, local body elections, voter turnout has been abysmore.
What do we do to get more engagement with this
because it seems like a futile exercise.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah. Well, Look, one of the problems you have in
terms of local government election or democracy system is that
the rate payers actually pay for the bill, but everybody
else gets a vote, and so on that basis, unless
it's burning your pocket through your rent or some other aspect,
then you're not paying raise. You don't have a direct link.
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And so for that reason, I think the level of
interest is on the basis while it doesn't affect day
to day, and so people tend to buy a bigger
majority ignore the whole process. Look, I'd be surprised if
the voters and that this year gendering across New Zealand
because of rape costs. But you're going to remember that's
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not everybody will feed through into individuals rental position in
terms of the rates. The reality is is not the
connection between the rape, the non rate payer, and those
who are standing for election.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think VODA fatigue just comes into the equation as well, because,
let's face facts, if you're not into politics, you're not
into politics.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, And I think unless something materially happens within the
community that upsets people, that's building a building or removing services,
people tend not to get excited around local government elections.
They tend to trundle on every three years. I think
the only reason we're seeing more debate this time around
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is because of the continual rate cross rate increases well
beyond inflation, and people certainly think, well, how faily we
go before it becomes unaffordable. But that doesn't necessarily affect
the young guy doing a mechanics course paying is one
hundred and eighty dollars or two hundred dollars a week
as part of the rent and the plant.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
The sonical side of me says, this needs to be
like the vaccinating times of twenty twenty and give somebody
your Berger voucher or something like that to go and
engage with democracy behalfs.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't know, well, I.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Don't know if there's many other ways that can encourage
you to vote. It seems to be quite a lot.
I think the sooner we shift to an online voting system,
the better it will attract more younger people because it's
just what they used to do on their phone. I
think that the days a postal voting are gone, and
you know that you have to make a bit of
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an effort to find somewhere to drop your envelope off,
that ability to physically vote should go, and I think
we should shift online.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Good Only Jeff Grant always appreciate your time on the
Master Geeus. Thanks Andy, Jeff Grant. Bendoley is up next
and before the end of the hour, Andrew Walsh from
Time Jane next and Senior Sergeant Gary Eddington out of
the Good Police.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Give the.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
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Speaker 1 (20:20):
Ben do we farms down near Winton Sheep Beef and
YouTube farmer Dulls. Good afternoon, how's everything?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Ye're not too bad yourself?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Look lambing slowly getting through it for a lot of people.
Now hoggets are kicking into gear. How are you going?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yeah, just just got what have we got on? Six?
Pernos of curiously to shoot out. So maybe a couple
or three hundred sheep there to go through, get the
last of them out, and then we'll sort up the
with drawers from the late Landers, try and get them
as rod as we can and hopefully get some sold.
And yeah, probably down to sixty or eighty usually to
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Lamb now, so yeah, we're pretty much.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
How's your drop looking all things considered?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah, I'm not one to count my chickens for their haitch.
I'll just say it looks. It looks reasonably good. It
should be better than last year, which surely to how
Murphy can't beat me on that?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, Murphy's just been hanging around for a weave it
too long unfortunately.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Yeah, one of these days someone's going to catch up
with them.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now, what would you do with Murphy? What would you
want to say to them?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I can't say that on air, Andy or wind up
in jail.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
No treat to work or anything being done. I actually
know I send on your socials last week. You have
had the iron horse and the paddick for a couple
of days.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yeah, I got seventeen or eighty and hit theears ripped
up before we started lemming and that was good because
it's you know, dries out quick now and when it
does you can get in and do it. Got to
weave it a just the bits that were a bit
steep to grab or got them dissed up the other
night and one pettic makes you tilled. And yeah, then
it rained again. So not looking promising for the next
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week or so to get much done. We won't be
getting any seed in the ground in a hurry, I
don't think. But it's one of those things that you
just you can't change the weather, the yeah, just do
it when you can.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
So when's tailing, Yeah, with these two.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
As they do, just going a bit later. I'm sort
of hoping to hold off to the faint the least,
but well, to see what the contractor says, you sort
of at the emmercy if you'd agree, they've got a
hell of a job to get done. And yeah, you
don't want to have three four to old lambs and
a wet pin of bloody of a whet lamp pin.
But at the same time you've got to work with
him a fair bit, so we'll see when it happens.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Have you ever been at the stage you've had to
put straw Hay down on the pin.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
No, we've come close a couple of times, and their
guys are actually pretty good, you know. Like I say,
you're always conscious with the contractors that you they've got
to keep going. But our guys are pretty good at
saying no, I think we want to stop now. So, yeah,
we've never We've never had any issues in the past.
We've been close, but no, they just pull in dolls.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You've been pretty proactive around us. The Alliance proposed of
door meets. We touched on it with Jeff Grant before.
But your adamant this has to go through.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, if we believe what the two guys at the
top are saying, this money has to be paid back
by the nineteenth of December. We could talk all day
about whether that's right or wrong, But honestly, I don't
think any of us are as qualified as those two
to make that call. They're the ones that are working
with the banks. Now. If that time comes and the
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money hasn't been paid, we don't know what's going to
happen for sure, but there is a reasonable chance that
the receivers are going to come in. And I just
asked a question of everybody out there, I'm lucky enough
to have, you know, have spoken to the previous generation
about the things when full TeX's went under, and you know,
when space was incredibly tight. I don't know how the
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South Island kill feares. If people won't send stock to Alliance,
and if the threat of receivership is hanging over the head,
I don't think I'd be confident to do it. So
on that alone, I'm voting yes. But at the same time,
it's not a particularly great deal. But it's a pretty
bad situation all round. Yeah, I do see potential merits
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to come from this deal if it goes through, but
I also see a hell of a lot of risk
if we don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So you can see what you talked about.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
To throw back to the four texclosure back in there,
was it ninety three or ninety four? I think it was.
Do you think these kind of correlations there?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Well, I mean, bearing in mind I was born in
eighty nine, so I certainly don't remember it was South.
Like I say, it's recollections from the previous generation. But yeah,
if we lose Lawnville, which is entirely plausible, if Alliance
goes under the hammer we have an overcapacity issue in
the industry, there's no doubt about that. But if we
take you out a play a lot Lawnville that just
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has such huge capacity, are we going too far in that?
And at the same time the other plants that would
likely be picked up by other players. Is that going
to happen fast enough to give people assurance that they
would be safe sending lambs in, Because yes, I do
see it potentially playing out where either people won't send
stock to those plants, or people wind up sending stock
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to those plants and then not a high chance of
it happening, but either not getting paid or not getting
paid until the receivers have gone and actually gone through
everything and sort of everything out, which could be weeks,
could be months, could be never. So yeah, from that
point alone, I say we've got a vote use and
I ultimately it's up to everyone how they vote. But
that is my view.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Have you heard of many farmers flip flopping those as
far as how are you going to look at this vote?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I haven't actually heard anybody really change their view. People
are either pretty for it or pretty against it. Yeah,
it's yeah, people are pretty passionate about it either way,
but not understandably.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So, I mean there's a lot of stake when you
think about it. You've got to be passionate about this, surely.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Oh absolutely, And don't get me wrong, I can see
ten years down the track a group of farmers, possibly
myself included, trying to start up another co op if
this doesn't go to plan. But right here and now,
we'll just got to work of what we've got. And yeah,
I think the best things are usefolk. But yeah, I
just don't see anybody changing their mind with any new
information that's come.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
To so, Ben, from what you've seen, what are the
biggest risks associated with this so called merger?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Risks with the merger, I don't see a lot of
risks with the merger. I mean one risk is that
obviously profits sixty five percent of profits have to go
to Dawn meets. There is definitely you know that there
is money that we're not going to be getting. But
at the same time, if farmers aren't willing to put
the money in, and let's be real about this, they tried. Yes,
it was difficult times, but ultimately, well we're heading into
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a season where prices are looking really good. It's still
reasonably difficult times out there. People have accrued up a
lot of bills or you know, haven't spent money on
things they need to in the previous three four five
years that needs to be caught up on. So well,
there might be a bit of money coming in, I
don't see there being a hell of a lot left
at the end of the season. Is it still is
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at the time to be calling for money yet? And
with the banks pushing things so hard, are we going
to get the opportunity to put that money in?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I don't think we are, and especially with interest rates
the way they've been over the last eighteen twenty four months, Farmers,
especially the smaller scale farmers.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Are just starting to bounce back on their.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Feet to it. Agree, But you're just going to look
at the bigger picture, I suppose, and just fortify your
business first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, that's it. And another thing on that that's with us.
We are pretty much of the opinion thatever it's a
no vote, we will have to find somewhere else to
send our lambs this year. So I would seduced to
be a lot of other people saying that as well. So, yeah,
just something else to be.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Mindful of Do you know if any farmers who have
actually been proactive and looked at that and gone to
other meat companies saying are you happy to be a plan? B?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I haven't been speaking to anyone that has. It's probably
not the kind of thing that you would talk too
much about if you were doing that right now anyway,
because if it does get ugly, where's the capacity to kill?
All the blame is going to be? Like the other
companies have been quite open that they're not taking a
whole lot of people on. Yeah, but no, I haven't
haven't spoken to anyone that seed there. But like I said,
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it's the corner thing. You'd probably kicked yourself anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We always appreciate your time. That good on you, mate,
Ben Durley of wendhom You're listening to the Master at
next just down the road here from Hoku HQ. Actually
we're going to catch up with saying your senior sergeant
Gary youdn't I know the good police? M Senior Sergeant Gary,
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yournton know the good police? Joins us next on the Master.
Good afternoon, Gary.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
How are you good after? And did good after the
rural community?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
How's the last couple of weeks Spain.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Yeap, been steady, just you know, life going by and
just deal with people and good people as well out there.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So it's busy.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Promily come up to I hate to say it towards
the Christmas part of the year.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Now you can already get your Christmas trees in certain
stores if you so wish.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Well, that's a bit early for me.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, it's a big pass for me as well.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That safety on the roads this is a big issue
as well. We've had a lot of localized flooding in
the South over the last couple of days due to rainfall.
But you reckon just for driver behavior in general, it's
all about patients, yep.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Like I said before we get in these conversations, it's
patrons of the virtue. We don't want people to tailgates
and putting people under pressure making stupid decisions, you know,
and then serious consequence of not fatal at the end
of the day. Just with a localized flooding as an example,
like yes, there's a water, it's a puddle in the road,
but when you go through it at speed and it
says slow down, that's there for a reason. Plus you
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just don't know if drains have given way all the
roads that claps them beneath, so you know, drive slowly
and drive to drive to the environment. We're still having
people driving speeds you in a few staying lots of attractions.
Legislation now is if you're court driving it, we'll take
the vehicle off you for six months and go to court.
So it has a huge impact both on families work wise.
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You know, it's not just about silly five minutes, just
telling people just to be a bit responsible on the
roads and think about people around you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Something else that's a bit of an issue at the moment.
A couple of people have approached me talking about wondering
stock on roads. Yes, you're on rural rise and occasionally
there be a you or a lamb or a cow
or whatever on the road, but it's all about reporting it.
But just I don't know, just make sure your fences
and everything you're at the speed, although it doesn't always
work that way either.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of good farmers out there,
and obviously, yeah they've got some responsibility just to keep
maintenance of their gates and the fences up, but there's
also sometimes they do get through. They're not animals that
you can control, so if they do get through sometimes
it's just one of these things. And we're just saying
to people just be aware of the surroundings. Don't assume
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drive one hundred k and one hundred k because you
just don't know wants the corner. If you hit a cow,
you hit something quite big, it's not going to end up.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Good emergency vehicles something else you want to touch on here.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yet, we've just had a few just recently where people
do panic or reacting different ways. And what we're saying
to if you do see blue lights emergency sirens behind
you where you can and it's safe to do so,
just pull over and either keep moving, but pull over
slowly and don't stop in the middle of the lane.
Obviously that will stop vehicles get into a scene. So
I just stay in the vehicle, just have a think
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about it. Looking into a view mirror doesn't mean you
just carry on going, but try and pull over where
it's safe to do.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So, is there what you're saying to come across?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
More often than not, people just aren't sure ahead to
approach the situation when these lights behind them they beinck.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Yeah, it's ranging from locals, visitors, tourists, they just freeze basically,
And a lot of time we're actually going to a
job and we're just saying police or anyone wants to
stop you, they'll indicate and they'll pull over behind you.
And the other thing is when people do get told
to stop, this be stopping first time otherwise has some
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potential serious consequences out there.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Great driving with something we touched on quite a bit, Gary.
Now the good police. I've seen you guys about being
very proactive regarding checkpoints, what's been hitpening there.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
We've been targeting both within the area and also the
rural aspect, very conscious that people have. It's nice to
go out and have a drink and celebrate, but once
again you get these people that make some stupid decisions.
I think they're on a different planet and above the law,
and we're targeting them. Targeted you you can, and what
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we're looking at trying to do is keep these people
off the roads and keep them safe. If you've got
a drink and you go into establishment MLT and up
put on taxes, you plan your evenings and just be
sensible about it. A lot of people try and avoid
us country roads were aware of that, and we're just
trying to sort of do checkpoints all over the royal
communities at the moment, so don't be surprised if you
get stopped or court.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
What's the saying, have a plan B.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Have a plan be and if you go out and drink,
responsible and just enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's what we're saying, than as boy racers, you're hearing
your burnout's happening still.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
We've had one recently in the courts who's lost their
vehicle for six months and been drinking under the influence.
So you know there is people out there that what
was saying to be if you do see them, report
it to us if it's surgent one one one and
if you've got a vehicle and you know who's driving it,
you know we need to get these people off the
road and get that. You know, it's just not acceptable.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And just a reminder as well, just to secure your
property and your belongings, yep, just.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Making sure we people park up or at night time depending.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Where they are.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Just make sure your vehicle's park locked and secure. And
just anything that's valuable or sentimental either take.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It in or keep it out.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
Of view of people just walking past your opportunist thieves and.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
What are the numbers of people? Need to remember again Gary,
to get in touch with the police.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
So if it's not urgent and not happening at the time,
it's one o five and then you can do crime
Reporting line so you can make a report. It goes
through to our sort of senters and then they sign
it out to the retrospective areas. Are you for Goal
or the royal communities? And if it's urgent and happening
at the time one one and you can use crime
stops as well. Crime stop as you know if you
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want to report something and remain anonymous.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Good only.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Gary, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Thanks Ad, Thanks for the beauty.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Senior Sergeant Gary Dington of the Good Police. You're listening
to the muster before you wrap up. Andrew Welsh of
twin Fangenetics, thanks for joining us on the muster all
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Speaker 5 (34:55):
Here were going today?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They're any not too bad?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You tell me, how are you fearing out there? I
mean we are through a bit of sunshine at some stage,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, every day and all of the album's a good day.
But it's certainly been a bit damp and a bit
a bit challenging for the last yeah, last month.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
So how would you compare it to twelve months ago?
Which I don't like using that comparison for some people.
It's not as wet as it's been, but it's almost
about cooler.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, I'd almost say it's the other way around, like
we Yeah, we're certainly damp underfoot again, it's certainly been
wet all the way through, but I think it's actually
been warmer than twelve months ago. It was just constant
last year, yeah, storm on storm, whereas this year we've
it's been warmer. LAMB Survival's definitely been better, but there's
just been a couple of days there that we're killers,
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and the rest of it's just been constant sort of
niggly stuff that keeps you leggings on and drives you bonkers.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If there's one thing about Southland, if you want to
find out where the best leggings, who does the best
leggings as far over travel as such, the Southland is
a place to do.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
It right, that's dead right.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah, certainly tests them down here. Nothing like getting a
brand new set of legans and going off and over
a fence or catching it and giving a nice wee
tear or about the knee. That's a given every time
you get a new set, I reckon.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Catching it on that top barb that you're always going
to replace.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yep, yep, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So how's tailing being over all? Though you say a
couple of the days are a better fee bit. Apart
from that, you seem to have got through a game.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah, we've just made a bit of a start, so
we've tailed. Yeah, done two sort of part days of tailing.
So numbers are looking all right, certainly better than last year,
but yeah, not not as fantastic as we'd like them
when we're going to have a hopefully a reasonable price
lamb season.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So overall, that's pretty much the focus at the babe,
and just getting these tails chopped off of space.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah it is. And like us are going into their
sort of peak milk production now, so trying to keep
feeds in front of them. Yeah, we just said a
discussion there this morning at smoke over about how we
can start to open up some mobs into some lanes
and just try and yeah, even some mobs up a
bit more, try and really get those used cranking, because yeah,
there's certainly the paddocks and blocks that are tide of
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a feed. You can see that they're yous just aren't
milking as well, and the lambs are just competing, got
their heads down eating beside the you rather than drinking.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So it's no different to what you've had to do
in the past as far as using your lanes and
that for attack it.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
No, that's the good thing with the lanes that you
can just open them up. We've got a bit of
sort of you almost take it as saved feed there.
I suppose that you haven't been able to use for
the last month. Yeah, and lambs love to poke at
this time a year now that they get get to
be that three weeks of age, they seem to go
through any fence.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
That's one good thing about this time of year. And
you see it we're one. They had travels genning and
the boys are consistently looking up for lamb gangs, just
having races up and down the fence line. So you
got to take some positives of time of year because
it's the start of a new life cycle.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Oh exactly, yep, And I think that is one of
the key points in the farming calendar. Actually, look and
think of what makes you you're happy on the farm,
and is seeing that sort of thing with them. Get
a bit of sun and the afternoon and lambs are
just out, a bunch of them, just sprinding along a
fence line or playing on a weeknob in a hull
or something.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
So you haven't had the tractor up and running yet.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
No, Although yeah, I think last time we were talking
to you, I made a decision. We went and sold
forty hec years of oats dress trick, drilled it into
double ground and it all sprout and looked fantastic and
then it's all got drowned out and trewed off by
slugs and it's the right off to be here. So
I'll chalk that one up to a learning lesson that
was looking fantastic back mid August. And yeah, nothing like
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a south and spring to just bring you back to reality.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's all about those learnings of Verdic commas that you've
got to take in life.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Right, yeah, exactly, So, yeah, we're making the most of now.
We're actually we brought the heifers down off the hill
and we had them down here chewing off the last
of the stuble ground and eating the last wee bit
of bailage that we had saved up. So we're walking
them back up up the hill now actually as we speak.
So yeah, good to get them back up there and
let them loose on the hill.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Because when you get to this time of year, the
tailings to be done. You've got the trek to work,
but you can start allocating time to other activities on
and off farm for that matter too. But because some
team it can just be a bloody.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Slog yep I can, but to be fair for us,
like lambing the ewes in September is actually probably a breeze.
It's yeah, lembing for us begins when the hogits get going.
So they're sort of about half to two thirds of
the way through now and touch wood. They've actually been
going really good this year. You have the odd day
that you scratch ahead and think, well, what went different today,
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But yeah, they're going really well.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Actually, do you find that often though with your hoggits.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Every season seems to be different somehow. We had a
couple of days in a row there. I think we
went around and you had to sort of pull one
or two and then yeah, yesterday went round and I
think it pulled about five. So and yeah, it just
keeps you scratching, and just the lamb seem to get
big all of a sudden, and then they're back down
to normal from all sides again the next day. So
I just can't quite put my finger on what caused.
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It just seemed to be the whee pat and they
go through, but they're sitting there happy. You got a
nose and two feet and yeah, if you pull them,
you get a live lamb. If you leave them, half
them will make it and half won't. So yeah, it's
worth putting them that we be effort to get those
hogs up and gone.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
No issues of bearings at all this season.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Touch would have been really good again, which was fantastic. Yeah,
we still end up getting I think we're maybe about
twelve or something for the season, so it's yeah, it's
not too bad in the green scheme of things.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's pretty good for the number of years that you're running.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Yeah, Yeah, we're sort of Yeah, I don't know what
it is about east freezing and the and the sheep beast.
Frisians have never really been renowned for having beerings, so yeah,
we'll take that wee advantage.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
As we go.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
A great milking shape though.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Fantastic yep. And this was touching on before, just trying
to get those us really ramp up, get that milk
production going now, and yeah, that that what gives you
the advantage at winning time getting more lambs away if
you can keep that milk production going now.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Do you have a.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Roaster in the background where you are at the moment,
by chance, yep, there.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Is yet at the end of the y there. So
they're Ruster's run around and a couple of turkeys and
all sorts like we've got a fear few animals foking
around here with kids and pets and goats and all.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
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Speaker 5 (41:09):
No good to gold Andy and you everyone kick your
heads up and yeah, look forward to some decent tailing results.
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Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakawie. My
name is Andy Miller. I'm here until two o'clock thanks
to Peterson Nix. Appreciate your company. You hope the weekend
didn't go too badly. The Raincoat now doubt got a
bit of a workover Thursday and Friday. So good to
have blue Sky and by all accounts, I think it's
coming back later on in the week. We'll talk with
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Stag season. Wow, North Harbor got their first one. Let's
leave it at that. The netbook saga between Nipple New
Zealand and Dan nol in Taro just continues on, though
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Speaker 2 (01:22):
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That's better.
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And Friday morning showers of breezing nor west is six
and eighteen. So temperatures Clinton eight point eight, Harriet seven
point five, Northern south On eight point five, Riverton ten,
Tiana nine point three, Tidoro a nine, Winter eight point three,
and Woodlands nine point three. Blair Drysdale. The bell for
starts us off for a Monday afternoon follow up by
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Jeff Grant commenting on the alliance proposal.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Now, Jeff thinks is a.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Bit more of this to think about rather than just
ticking the box for this door meets proposal.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So Jeff talks.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
About that, and then we actually talk about it in
a bit more detailed as well, with Ben dooleague and
why Ben thinks he's thinking opposite. Actually he's thinking this
needs to happen. Senior Sergeant Gary Eddington from the Good
Police has a chat and Andrew Walsh o toWin farm
genetics as well, so some more holler notes. We'll start
the l with the Blair Drysdale. This is the muster
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until two o'clock, thanks for Peter Genetics. Blair Drysdale Farms
just out of Belfer and mixed farming operation there and
he joins us in the Sergeant Dan farming ground up
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thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock. Food's here in the main
street of Gorge. Just off it blocker, good afternote.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Good afternoon, and you will just a little bit cold.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But not too bad. It hasn't rained so far today,
but look it's just been an interesting spring after what
we had last year.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And you just jinxed today it'll rain and it's forecas
to rain, so you let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
The yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We've got to have that concrete just getting just a
little bit more moisture on top of it though, just
to keep that feeling going right.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh and you've got to laugh for iucid cry. I
mean I said just so many times that you'd never
get to springs and the road like the last one,
and admittedly where nowhere near is wet, that's for sure,
but it's probably colder and we've had less sunshine and
just talking off here, we're talking and you said about
Ma's been having four hundred milimeters September. They've got my
sympathy because that is a shit ton of rain and
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that is not great. I guess it hangs around for
a while term and we're waiting for water logging to
disappear on that it's still and have done next to
no aggwork.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I slipped to his home for the school holidays and
hoping to get a heap of airs and the tractor
and earn some money. And you know he could be
on one while I was on the other. We did nothing.
So yeah, very I think frustrating is probably the key
word for most people, mister Jodie going down the lane. Yes,
they lame. They're looking a little bit white and washed out.
You know, they haven't had a lot of stun and
year grasses long disappeared like the here dairy heifers here there,
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we're only just keeping enough grass in front of them
and supplementing them as well. So yeah, it really is
a somewhat of a repeat last year. So hopefully October
peels it's bloody head and smartly, or else there's going
to be some very pissed off people.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Did you have a frost this morning?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He had a frost this morning, And we had a
We had a good one one day last week? Was
it a company?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
What day?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We had a rub of frost and then it snowed
on top of it, the snow freezing? Was that Wednesday? Yes,
she was an interesting morning. But look outside there today,
it's just it's like a July day. We had frost
with fog. The fog bugged off pretty quick and the
sun poked out and then it came in overcast, and
it's it's probably only two degrees out there at the moment,
maybe three, I don't know. It's not very body warm,
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is that first thing? This morning? Loading grain? And I
don't often get cold feet, but here my feet were
cold at the time I got them back inside for
coffee o' clock. So yeah, it's just cold. All teams
are cold. Nothing's really moving that fast, grass crops absolutely nothing.
So yeah, there's a long road ahead of us.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yet I reckon you might have jinxed it yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Actually, there'd you talk about wearing shorts all year round?
You're one of those crew. How do you put trousers on?
Maybe it'll warm up.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I had a day last week I had to because
I wouldn't go outside of the bike. Actually might have
been that snowy mining I was. I'd bugger this, this
is ridiculous. So I actually flipped the pants on that
morning for first there if they were out around the bike.
But other than that, yet, they don't feel it too much,
to be fair, and it's just something I've gotten used to,
and I don't like wearing pants very much at all.
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I do wear in public just to be short of
live when I'm out clarification, I do wear pants.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, okay, say no more. But we just look at
the situation we're faced with us. So ground works pretty
much your main thing you're trying to get on with
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It would really like to get asiambrascas in the ground,
you know, shortly, but I'm not going to put them in.
And they still teams, so you know, that's a solid
ten anyway. They can stay in the back door then
and then yeah, pease want peas and you know peas
and spring barley in before label weekend would be really nice,
but there's have have a lot of work to do
before then now, so yeah, there's a weave it gone on.
(06:20):
Still we're pretty you know, found enough windows to spraying
and fur. I'm up to date on that front. There's
still one pat it to spray out for peas. It's
just finding you know, like I was hapen to do
it later this morning, but the grass is still covered
in jew it's overcast and here I think it's actually
mean to blow before it rains. So yeah, there's just
not a lot of windows to spraying and even doing
you know for it. It's been hard. You've been fighting
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norwis so one day last week where I just had
to give up for about six hours and it was
that that was one about eighty k's got up too,
so had to give up in that. So it has
been challenging, It's no doubt about that. But I guess
that's why tractors have lights. We just do moras and
find windows when we can.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But here's a good news story. The environment south into
a wards happened again. Friday evening past you were down
there the bullies at Longers. They're doing some pretty cool
stuff on farm there their own country calendar a few
years ago and they were featured.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, and you know, I'm part of the Balfa Caption
group both Christ and Andrew, and they've always been leaders
farming in that environmental aspect of a beautiful farm. They
put a lot of time, energy, resources and expense into
it and making improvements without necessarily being prior to they
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disorder of their own accords. So yeah, we're down there
with them on Friday night. So here congrats to Andrew
and Christ. They took out the Environmental Leadership and Farming Award,
which is really cool. So yeah, all the family was there,
which is really nice.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Though.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's a really good evening. I think what really took
the cake at the end of night was the eleven
year old boy from town now who took out the
Councilor's Award for what it does around place that recycling.
So it's quite inspiring and you get kids that age,
you know, starting to do there but for the community,
so that's really good and it's actually you know, if
anyone's kan, it's a really good evening to go to
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good networking evening as well. And that's quite inspiring what
some people do, and you don't. Christ nailed it when
he was up there talking. You know, you don't have
to do a lot, You just do lots of little
things in bite sized chunks and it adds up over time.
So I think that's a really important message that you
don't have to go spend the kens of thousands of
dollars in one hat and it's worked on the little
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bite chunks and just slowly work away at it and
chip away at it over time.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's the saying I once heard about eating an elephant.
It's not in one big, smaller sports setting, but just
over time, taking little bites to add to the collective goods.
So that's pretty much been Christ's.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Approach definitely, and I think it's the majority of people's approach.
And it's a it's a good approach too, because you
also don't want to rush into big projects that perhaps
isn't the best money spent either. So you know, there's
plenty of expertise out there that you and tap into
around you know, building a wetland, seven ponds, et cetera,
(09:04):
et cetera. So and also grants they can get so
you don't have to do all these things alone either.
So it's important to you people go out and investigate,
you know, the help they can get.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Sporting highlight for the weekend. What was it for you.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Broncos getting up? That was good to see. I got
that bloody tired. I couldn't watch all the second half
and went to bed and thought it was a bit
of a foregone conclusion in the Melbourne way. Anyway, wake
up first this morning and clicked on the news and
damn had one, so I was pretty stoked. But yeah,
had a busy weekend. Sport was one night there was
like I said to you, I had cricket on one screen,
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Formula one on another, and the rugby on another, so
it's a bit heaped up. I don't really watch Formula one,
but Craig and Jeanette Collins over there for the daughter
honor for the Formula one and we have a laser
Kiwi flag and a and our duck shooting heart where
we stay in these strokes. A lot kind of take
laser Kiwi flag to try and get it on the telly.
So that's why I've been watching a wee bit of that,
but haven't seen the laser Kiwi flag yet. But anyway,
(10:01):
but yeah, great weekend sport. To see the AB's get
up as well. I was somewhat dubious with her what
or not? Anyway, it was all pretty good. Sister Staggs
which I forgot to watch because I thought it was
on Saturday not Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
He didn't miss out on the thing, trust me.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He didn't miss out on much.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Look Recee Welsh last night. If you haven't seen these highlights,
go and watch this guy. He's just the most He's
the biggest thing going in rugby league at the moment,
more so than Nathan Cleary, which is saying something. Every
time he's near the ball, something happens. And regardless what
you think of the guy, all the Broncos is an organization.
You have to respect that they won that competition of
the way that they have, but they're one of them
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such a manner that they're wanting people. If they're watching them,
it's a case of what are they going to do next?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah, and lot Recee Welsh.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
He's young, he's only twenty three. He is far from
the biggest man on the field that by how he
is strong both physically and mentally, and he's pretty good
at reading a game and knowing where he needs to
be what he he proved last night, so he's got
a massive future ahead of him yet that man. So
for shame we didn't get up in the cricket black Caps.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
But it's October.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Who's watching cricket at the start of October haven't even
started the club?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, I mean we watched Super Rugby and February, so
the arguments the same.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, but the weather is a bit more conducing for
rugby than what it is for cricket in New Zealand
at this time of year.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I don't know there's.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
A fair argument against that too, but yeah, there's a
massive difits least from the ground, that's for sure the
other night. But it's a shame it had rained prior
to that match. Yeah, I think it would have been
slightly different had it not rained. But anyway, that's job
done and Ozzie had to sweep the eerious.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, absolutely good on your block. I always appreciate your
time and please, for the love of God put some
pencil on all right.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
We'll do cheers.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Andy Blair Dreis and the Sergeant Dan Farming round Up.
Thanks for Sergeant Dan Stock foods here and Gore Chief
grand Is up next.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Actor the Muster.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Jeff Grant these days Northern Southern business owner joins us
in our political roundup for a Monday afternoon Jeff, how
are you good?
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Thanks? Andy?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
How are you pretty good?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
We just need a bit of big yellow in the
sky just to get that grass ticking over.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I'd say yes without any doubt. We're starting to find
the spring being a bit tight and tough, and look
most of it's around. Just the continual grizzly rain and
then getting another twenty five mills and weekend just sort
of makes it hard to keep self happy.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
This alliance proposal with Dawn Meats the Waikaia Fives come
on board in the last couple of weeks with a counterproposal.
What's going to happen through all of us is interesting
because the more people I speak to, it's a case
of as a resignation of if we don't say yes,
well we don't really want to think about what happens
after that.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, I think, look perously, it's always going to be
difficult for somebody to put up a counter proposal. As
I understand for the group, they have not been able
to get the information memorandum which others obviously had as
part of the process. The reality is that they seem
to be reasonably confident around credible options in terms of
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future funding. I think the difficulty is that the price
and the deal looks really good eighteen months ago, but
since then, you know, things have turned around significantly. Appears
at Alliance have turned around an eighty million dollar position
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for the year in a season that hasn't had a
peak flow where you know you've had the volume coming in.
So the ship from seventy million loss to a twenty
million profit is a really good turnaround. But look in
this deal, effectively you're giving away fiercely sixty five percent
of all future profits. Secondly, you're giving away one hundred
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and ninety one sixty five percent of one hundred and
ninety one million tax loss. That's what the shareholders have
had to wear over the last two years. That sixty
five percent of the benefit of that's now it would
go on this deal. I think that if you look
at the multiple in terms of sale price, to give
you an example, Blue Sky, I think last time was
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around six percent six times. The multiple silver fir and
farms in the Chinese deal was about six times multiple.
This is only at four So what you're doing is
selling a business that eighteen months ago looked pretty shaky
on the price of the basis of eighteen months ago.
But the reality is, I think that your business has
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turned around significantly, has the capacity with support of shareholders,
to rescue the company in Trustly, I don't think the
shareholders of Line should be responsible for the whole of
the meat industry in terms of any consolidation or were
at the cost of that. I think you know, you've
got to remember as part of that debt they've created
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over the last two years, that debt has predominantly been
driven by a couple of activities. One is an IT
system that costs a lot more than was initially intended,
around eighty million dollars, and then a life drank slafe
that came driven out of the basis of selling Smithfield.
That cost to the company was another forty eight million.
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So on the basis that these core debt costs weren't
because of three, weren't because of decline and kill or
anything else. They were two separate incidents, and on top
of that, being slightly overweighted with LAMB and being too
slow to move on the China market, which we have
commented on before. Those three factors have driven the company
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to be where it is. I don't think on the
basis of its historical ability to provide killing capacity in
this especially in the South Island, that farmers should give
it all away.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Do you see any positives in this.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Our ABDORMENTA a good company internationally recognized in terms of
especially in the beef sector, so you know there's synergies
around the northern hemisphere in the southern hemisphere. But I
think this sort of conception that's been developed in terms
of the process that the road says, except that this
is a joint venture, it is not a joint venture.
(16:24):
This is a hul of sixty five percent of the
co op which will never get back. There's an argument
quite strongly that there will need to be more consolidation
in terms of the meat industry and rationalization or use
of plants. There's nothing in this proposal that deals with that.
And I also say this alliance Seyholder have already lost
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equity of around two hundred million. Why should they then
produce the loss of more equity, which they're going to
effectively do in order to get some rationalization in the
meat industry. There will be no rationalization of the industry
because of this deal.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Just finally, local body elections, voter turnout has been abysmore.
What do we do to get more engagement with this
because it seems like a futile exercise.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah. Well, Look, one of the problems you have in
terms of local government election or democracy system is that
the rate payers actually pay for the bill, but everybody
else gets a vote, and so on that basis, unless
it's burning your pocket through your rent or some other aspect,
then you're not paying raise. You don't have a direct link.
(17:36):
And so for that reason, I think the level of
interest is on the basis while it doesn't affect day
to day, and so people tend to buy a bigger
majority ignore the whole process. Look, I'd be surprised if
the voters and that this year gendering across New Zealand
because of rape costs. But you're going to remember that's
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not everybody will feed through into individuals rental position in
terms of the rates. The reality is is not the
connection between the rape, the non rate payer, and those
who are standing for election.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I think VODA fatigue just comes into the equation as well, because,
let's face facts, if you're not into politics, you're not
into politics.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, And I think unless something materially happens within the
community that upsets people, that's building a building or removing services,
people tend not to get excited around local government elections.
They tend to trundle on every three years. I think
the only reason we're seeing more debate this time around
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is because of the continual rate cross rate increases well
beyond inflation, and people certainly think, well, how faily we
go before it becomes unaffordable. But that doesn't necessarily affect
the young guy doing a mechanics course paying is one
hundred and eighty dollars or two hundred dollars a week
as part of the rent and the plant.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
The sonical side of me says, this needs to be
like the vaccinating times of twenty twenty and give somebody
your Berger voucher or something like that to go and
engage with democracy behalfs.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I don't know, well, I.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Don't know if there's many other ways that can encourage
you to vote. It seems to be quite a lot.
I think the sooner we shift to an online voting system,
the better it will attract more younger people because it's
just what they used to do on their phone. I
think that the days a postal voting are gone, and
you know that you have to make a bit of
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an effort to find somewhere to drop your envelope off,
that ability to physically vote should go, and I think
we should shift online.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Good Only Jeff Grant always appreciate your time on the
Master Geeus. Thanks Andy, Jeff Grant. Bendoley is up next
and before the end of the hour, Andrew Walsh from
Time Jane next and Senior Sergeant Gary Eddington out of
the Good Police.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
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Speaker 1 (20:20):
Ben do we farms down near Winton Sheep Beef and
YouTube farmer Dulls. Good afternoon, how's everything?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Ye're not too bad yourself?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
You're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Look lambing slowly getting through it for a lot of people.
Now hoggets are kicking into gear. How are you going?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yeah, just just got what have we got on? Six?
Pernos of curiously to shoot out. So maybe a couple
or three hundred sheep there to go through, get the
last of them out, and then we'll sort up the
with drawers from the late Landers, try and get them
as rod as we can and hopefully get some sold.
And yeah, probably down to sixty or eighty usually to
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Lamb now, so yeah, we're pretty much.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
How's your drop looking all things considered?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah, I'm not one to count my chickens for their haitch.
I'll just say it looks. It looks reasonably good. It
should be better than last year, which surely to how
Murphy can't beat me on that?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, Murphy's just been hanging around for a weave it
too long unfortunately.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Yeah, one of these days someone's going to catch up
with them.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now, what would you do with Murphy? What would you
want to say to them?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I can't say that on air, Andy or wind up
in jail.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
No treat to work or anything being done. I actually
know I send on your socials last week. You have
had the iron horse and the paddick for a couple
of days.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yeah, I got seventeen or eighty and hit theears ripped
up before we started lemming and that was good because
it's you know, dries out quick now and when it
does you can get in and do it. Got to
weave it a just the bits that were a bit
steep to grab or got them dissed up the other
night and one pettic makes you tilled. And yeah, then
it rained again. So not looking promising for the next
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week or so to get much done. We won't be
getting any seed in the ground in a hurry, I
don't think. But it's one of those things that you
just you can't change the weather, the yeah, just do
it when you can.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
So when's tailing, Yeah, with these two.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
As they do, just going a bit later. I'm sort
of hoping to hold off to the faint the least,
but well, to see what the contractor says, you sort
of at the emmercy if you'd agree, they've got a
hell of a job to get done. And yeah, you
don't want to have three four to old lambs and
a wet pin of bloody of a whet lamp pin.
But at the same time you've got to work with
him a fair bit, so we'll see when it happens.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Have you ever been at the stage you've had to
put straw Hay down on the pin.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
No, we've come close a couple of times, and their
guys are actually pretty good, you know. Like I say,
you're always conscious with the contractors that you they've got
to keep going. But our guys are pretty good at
saying no, I think we want to stop now. So, yeah,
we've never We've never had any issues in the past.
We've been close, but no, they just pull in dolls.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You've been pretty proactive around us. The Alliance proposed of
door meets. We touched on it with Jeff Grant before.
But your adamant this has to go through.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Yeah, if we believe what the two guys at the
top are saying, this money has to be paid back
by the nineteenth of December. We could talk all day
about whether that's right or wrong, But honestly, I don't
think any of us are as qualified as those two
to make that call. They're the ones that are working
with the banks. Now. If that time comes and the
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money hasn't been paid, we don't know what's going to
happen for sure, but there is a reasonable chance that
the receivers are going to come in. And I just
asked a question of everybody out there, I'm lucky enough
to have, you know, have spoken to the previous generation
about the things when full TeX's went under, and you know,
when space was incredibly tight. I don't know how the
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South Island kill feares. If people won't send stock to Alliance,
and if the threat of receivership is hanging over the head,
I don't think I'd be confident to do it. So
on that alone, I'm voting yes. But at the same time,
it's not a particularly great deal. But it's a pretty
bad situation all round. Yeah, I do see potential merits
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to come from this deal if it goes through, but
I also see a hell of a lot of risk
if we don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So you can see what you talked about.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
To throw back to the four texclosure back in there,
was it ninety three or ninety four? I think it was.
Do you think these kind of correlations there?
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Well, I mean, bearing in mind I was born in
eighty nine, so I certainly don't remember it was South.
Like I say, it's recollections from the previous generation. But yeah,
if we lose Lawnville, which is entirely plausible, if Alliance
goes under the hammer we have an overcapacity issue in
the industry, there's no doubt about that. But if we
take you out a play a lot Lawnville that just
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has such huge capacity, are we going too far in that?
And at the same time the other plants that would
likely be picked up by other players. Is that going
to happen fast enough to give people assurance that they
would be safe sending lambs in, Because yes, I do
see it potentially playing out where either people won't send
stock to those plants, or people wind up sending stock
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to those plants and then not a high chance of
it happening, but either not getting paid or not getting
paid until the receivers have gone and actually gone through
everything and sort of everything out, which could be weeks,
could be months, could be never. So yeah, from that
point alone, I say we've got a vote use and
I ultimately it's up to everyone how they vote. But
that is my view.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Have you heard of many farmers flip flopping those as
far as how are you going to look at this vote?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
I haven't actually heard anybody really change their view. People
are either pretty for it or pretty against it. Yeah,
it's yeah, people are pretty passionate about it either way,
but not understandably.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So, I mean there's a lot of stake when you
think about it. You've got to be passionate about this, surely.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Oh absolutely, And don't get me wrong, I can see
ten years down the track a group of farmers, possibly
myself included, trying to start up another co op if
this doesn't go to plan. But right here and now,
we'll just got to work of what we've got. And yeah,
I think the best things are usefolk. But yeah, I
just don't see anybody changing their mind with any new
information that's come.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
To so, Ben, from what you've seen, what are the
biggest risks associated with this so called merger?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Risks with the merger, I don't see a lot of
risks with the merger. I mean one risk is that
obviously profits sixty five percent of profits have to go
to Dawn meets. There is definitely you know that there
is money that we're not going to be getting. But
at the same time, if farmers aren't willing to put
the money in, and let's be real about this, they tried. Yes,
it was difficult times, but ultimately, well we're heading into
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a season where prices are looking really good. It's still
reasonably difficult times out there. People have accrued up a
lot of bills or you know, haven't spent money on
things they need to in the previous three four five
years that needs to be caught up on. So well,
there might be a bit of money coming in, I
don't see there being a hell of a lot left
at the end of the season. Is it still is
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at the time to be calling for money yet? And
with the banks pushing things so hard, are we going
to get the opportunity to put that money in?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I don't think we are, and especially with interest rates
the way they've been over the last eighteen twenty four months, Farmers,
especially the smaller scale farmers.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Are just starting to bounce back on their.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Feet to it. Agree, But you're just going to look
at the bigger picture, I suppose, and just fortify your
business first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, that's it. And another thing on that that's with us.
We are pretty much of the opinion thatever it's a
no vote, we will have to find somewhere else to
send our lambs this year. So I would seduced to
be a lot of other people saying that as well. So, yeah,
just something else to be.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Mindful of Do you know if any farmers who have
actually been proactive and looked at that and gone to
other meat companies saying are you happy to be a plan? B?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
I haven't been speaking to anyone that has. It's probably
not the kind of thing that you would talk too
much about if you were doing that right now anyway,
because if it does get ugly, where's the capacity to kill?
All the blame is going to be? Like the other
companies have been quite open that they're not taking a
whole lot of people on. Yeah, but no, I haven't
haven't spoken to anyone that seed there. But like I said,
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it's the corner thing. You'd probably kicked yourself anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
We always appreciate your time. That good on you, mate,
Ben Durley of wendhom You're listening to the Master at
next just down the road here from Hoku HQ. Actually
we're going to catch up with saying your senior sergeant
Gary youdn't I know the good police? M Senior Sergeant Gary,
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yournton know the good police? Joins us next on the Master.
Good afternoon, Gary.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
How are you good after? And did good after the
rural community?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
How's the last couple of weeks Spain.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Yeap, been steady, just you know, life going by and
just deal with people and good people as well out there.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So it's busy.
Speaker 8 (28:59):
Promily come up to I hate to say it towards
the Christmas part of the year.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Now you can already get your Christmas trees in certain
stores if you so wish.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Well, that's a bit early for me.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, it's a big pass for me as well.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That safety on the roads this is a big issue
as well. We've had a lot of localized flooding in
the South over the last couple of days due to rainfall.
But you reckon just for driver behavior in general, it's
all about patients, yep.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
Like I said before we get in these conversations, it's
patrons of the virtue. We don't want people to tailgates
and putting people under pressure making stupid decisions, you know,
and then serious consequence of not fatal at the end
of the day. Just with a localized flooding as an example,
like yes, there's a water, it's a puddle in the road,
but when you go through it at speed and it
says slow down, that's there for a reason. Plus you
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just don't know if drains have given way all the
roads that claps them beneath, so you know, drive slowly
and drive to drive to the environment. We're still having
people driving speeds you in a few staying lots of attractions.
Legislation now is if you're court driving it, we'll take
the vehicle off you for six months and go to court.
So it has a huge impact both on families work wise.
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You know, it's not just about silly five minutes, just
telling people just to be a bit responsible on the
roads and think about people around you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Something else that's a bit of an issue at the moment.
A couple of people have approached me talking about wondering
stock on roads. Yes, you're on rural rise and occasionally
there be a you or a lamb or a cow
or whatever on the road, but it's all about reporting it.
But just I don't know, just make sure your fences
and everything you're at the speed, although it doesn't always
work that way either.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of good farmers out there,
and obviously, yeah they've got some responsibility just to keep
maintenance of their gates and the fences up, but there's
also sometimes they do get through. They're not animals that
you can control, so if they do get through sometimes
it's just one of these things. And we're just saying
to people just be aware of the surroundings. Don't assume
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drive one hundred k and one hundred k because you
just don't know wants the corner. If you hit a cow,
you hit something quite big, it's not going to end up.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Good emergency vehicles something else you want to touch on here.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yet, we've just had a few just recently where people
do panic or reacting different ways. And what we're saying
to if you do see blue lights emergency sirens behind
you where you can and it's safe to do so,
just pull over and either keep moving, but pull over
slowly and don't stop in the middle of the lane.
Obviously that will stop vehicles get into a scene. So
I just stay in the vehicle, just have a think
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about it. Looking into a view mirror doesn't mean you
just carry on going, but try and pull over where
it's safe to do.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
So, is there what you're saying to come across?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
More often than not, people just aren't sure ahead to
approach the situation when these lights behind them they beinck.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Yeah, it's ranging from locals, visitors, tourists, they just freeze basically,
And a lot of time we're actually going to a
job and we're just saying police or anyone wants to
stop you, they'll indicate and they'll pull over behind you.
And the other thing is when people do get told
to stop, this be stopping first time otherwise has some
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potential serious consequences out there.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Great driving with something we touched on quite a bit, Gary.
Now the good police. I've seen you guys about being
very proactive regarding checkpoints, what's been hitpening there.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
We've been targeting both within the area and also the
rural aspect, very conscious that people have. It's nice to
go out and have a drink and celebrate, but once
again you get these people that make some stupid decisions.
I think they're on a different planet and above the law,
and we're targeting them. Targeted you you can, and what
(32:34):
we're looking at trying to do is keep these people
off the roads and keep them safe. If you've got
a drink and you go into establishment MLT and up
put on taxes, you plan your evenings and just be
sensible about it. A lot of people try and avoid
us country roads were aware of that, and we're just
trying to sort of do checkpoints all over the royal
communities at the moment, so don't be surprised if you
get stopped or court.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
What's the saying, have a plan B.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Have a plan be and if you go out and drink,
responsible and just enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's what we're saying, than as boy racers, you're hearing
your burnout's happening still.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
We've had one recently in the courts who's lost their
vehicle for six months and been drinking under the influence.
So you know there is people out there that what
was saying to be if you do see them, report
it to us if it's surgent one one one and
if you've got a vehicle and you know who's driving it,
you know we need to get these people off the
road and get that. You know, it's just not acceptable.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
And just a reminder as well, just to secure your
property and your belongings, yep, just.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Making sure we people park up or at night time depending.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Where they are.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Just make sure your vehicle's park locked and secure. And
just anything that's valuable or sentimental either take.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It in or keep it out.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
Of view of people just walking past your opportunist thieves and.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
What are the numbers of people? Need to remember again Gary,
to get in touch with the police.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
So if it's not urgent and not happening at the time,
it's one o five and then you can do crime
Reporting line so you can make a report. It goes
through to our sort of senters and then they sign
it out to the retrospective areas. Are you for Goal
or the royal communities? And if it's urgent and happening
at the time one one and you can use crime
stops as well. Crime stop as you know if you
(34:13):
want to report something and remain anonymous.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Good only.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Gary, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Thanks Ad, Thanks for the beauty.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Senior Sergeant Gary Dington of the Good Police. You're listening
to the muster before you wrap up. Andrew Welsh of
twin Fangenetics, thanks for joining us on the muster all
(34:44):
the notes as the music. Andrew Welsh joins us now
out of twin Far Engineerings a home of Tiffron sponsoring
the five day forecast here on Hakani snow good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Here were going today?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
They're any not too bad?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
You tell me, how are you fearing out there? I
mean we are through a bit of sunshine at some stage,
no doubt.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, every day and all of the album's a good day.
But it's certainly been a bit damp and a bit
a bit challenging for the last yeah, last month.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
So how would you compare it to twelve months ago?
Which I don't like using that comparison for some people.
It's not as wet as it's been, but it's almost
about cooler.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, I'd almost say it's the other way around, like
we Yeah, we're certainly damp underfoot again, it's certainly been
wet all the way through, but I think it's actually
been warmer than twelve months ago. It was just constant
last year, yeah, storm on storm, whereas this year we've
it's been warmer. LAMB Survival's definitely been better, but there's
just been a couple of days there that we're killers,
(35:42):
and the rest of it's just been constant sort of
niggly stuff that keeps you leggings on and drives you bonkers.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If there's one thing about Southland, if you want to
find out where the best leggings, who does the best
leggings as far over travel as such, the Southland is
a place to do.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
It right, that's dead right.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Yeah, certainly tests them down here. Nothing like getting a
brand new set of legans and going off and over
a fence or catching it and giving a nice wee
tear or about the knee. That's a given every time
you get a new set, I reckon.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Catching it on that top barb that you're always going
to replace.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yep, yep, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So how's tailing being over all? Though you say a
couple of the days are a better fee bit. Apart
from that, you seem to have got through a game.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah, we've just made a bit of a start, so
we've tailed. Yeah, done two sort of part days of tailing.
So numbers are looking all right, certainly better than last year,
but yeah, not not as fantastic as we'd like them
when we're going to have a hopefully a reasonable price
lamb season.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So overall, that's pretty much the focus at the babe,
and just getting these tails chopped off of space.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah it is. And like us are going into their
sort of peak milk production now, so trying to keep
feeds in front of them. Yeah, we just said a
discussion there this morning at smoke over about how we
can start to open up some mobs into some lanes
and just try and yeah, even some mobs up a
bit more, try and really get those used cranking, because yeah,
there's certainly the paddocks and blocks that are tide of
(37:00):
a feed. You can see that they're yous just aren't
milking as well, and the lambs are just competing, got
their heads down eating beside the you rather than drinking.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
So it's no different to what you've had to do
in the past as far as using your lanes and
that for attack it.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
No, that's the good thing with the lanes that you
can just open them up. We've got a bit of
sort of you almost take it as saved feed there.
I suppose that you haven't been able to use for
the last month. Yeah, and lambs love to poke at
this time a year now that they get get to
be that three weeks of age, they seem to go
through any fence.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
That's one good thing about this time of year. And
you see it we're one. They had travels genning and
the boys are consistently looking up for lamb gangs, just
having races up and down the fence line. So you
got to take some positives of time of year because
it's the start of a new life cycle.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Oh exactly, yep, And I think that is one of
the key points in the farming calendar. Actually, look and
think of what makes you you're happy on the farm,
and is seeing that sort of thing with them. Get
a bit of sun and the afternoon and lambs are
just out, a bunch of them, just sprinding along a
fence line or playing on a weeknob in a hull
or something.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
So you haven't had the tractor up and running yet.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
No, Although yeah, I think last time we were talking
to you, I made a decision. We went and sold
forty hec years of oats dress trick, drilled it into
double ground and it all sprout and looked fantastic and
then it's all got drowned out and trewed off by
slugs and it's the right off to be here. So
I'll chalk that one up to a learning lesson that
was looking fantastic back mid August. And yeah, nothing like
(38:24):
a south and spring to just bring you back to reality.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's all about those learnings of Verdic commas that you've
got to take in life.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Right, yeah, exactly, So, yeah, we're making the most of now.
We're actually we brought the heifers down off the hill
and we had them down here chewing off the last
of the stuble ground and eating the last wee bit
of bailage that we had saved up. So we're walking
them back up up the hill now actually as we speak.
So yeah, good to get them back up there and
let them loose on the hill.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Because when you get to this time of year, the
tailings to be done. You've got the trek to work,
but you can start allocating time to other activities on
and off farm for that matter too. But because some
team it can just be a bloody.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Slog yep I can, but to be fair for us,
like lambing the ewes in September is actually probably a breeze.
It's yeah, lembing for us begins when the hogits get going.
So they're sort of about half to two thirds of
the way through now and touch wood. They've actually been
going really good this year. You have the odd day
that you scratch ahead and think, well, what went different today,
(39:21):
But yeah, they're going really well.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Actually, do you find that often though with your hoggits.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
Every season seems to be different somehow. We had a
couple of days in a row there. I think we
went around and you had to sort of pull one
or two and then yeah, yesterday went round and I
think it pulled about five. So and yeah, it just
keeps you scratching, and just the lamb seem to get
big all of a sudden, and then they're back down
to normal from all sides again the next day. So
I just can't quite put my finger on what caused.
(39:48):
It just seemed to be the whee pat and they
go through, but they're sitting there happy. You got a
nose and two feet and yeah, if you pull them,
you get a live lamb. If you leave them, half
them will make it and half won't. So yeah, it's
worth putting them that we be effort to get those
hogs up and gone.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
No issues of bearings at all this season.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Touch would have been really good again, which was fantastic. Yeah,
we still end up getting I think we're maybe about
twelve or something for the season, so it's yeah, it's
not too bad in the green scheme of things.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
That's pretty good for the number of years that you're running.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Yeah, Yeah, we're sort of Yeah, I don't know what
it is about east freezing and the and the sheep beast.
Frisians have never really been renowned for having beerings, so yeah,
we'll take that wee advantage.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
As we go.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
A great milking shape though.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Fantastic yep. And this was touching on before, just trying
to get those us really ramp up, get that milk
production going now, and yeah, that that what gives you
the advantage at winning time getting more lambs away if
you can keep that milk production going now.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Do you have a.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Roaster in the background where you are at the moment,
by chance, yep, there.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Is yet at the end of the y there. So
they're Ruster's run around and a couple of turkeys and
all sorts like we've got a fear few animals foking
around here with kids and pets and goats and all.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Hey, get on your thanks for your time, and the
muster is always and twin Farm geneticks a home of
tear from your other sponsors of the five day forecast
here on Hakau. We always appreciate your time.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
No good to gold Andy and you everyone kick your
heads up and yeah, look forward to some decent tailing results.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
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Speaker 1 (41:29):
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Thanks so Peter gen Nix. Enjoy the afternoon, keep on,
(41:49):
keep it on, and see you tomorrow.
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