October 15, 2025 • 8 mins
Nathan looks at the farcical situation of loan players for the NPC playoffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good take.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back to the muster before we catch up with
our residents, Sporting Guru. If you're looking for hardy, easy
cure rams, there's a place you need to go. That
is the far View ram Open Day's Sale, happening on Thursday,
October the thirtieth, from one pm onwards thirteen to eighteen. Waitahunah,
wist rode Lawrence. They've got Romney's, Rodney texalls and suff
ticks on display, bread for mothering ability, lamb survival growth rates,
(00:29):
all is sol recorded, beer heads, beer legs, beer backsides.
Take the off, heavy yarm with Hamish and the team.
That's a far View Ramsey Open Sale. Thursday, October the thirtieth.
Our resident Sporting Gary Nathan Byrden, Good, afternoon. Do you
need a RAM?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I don't need one currently, but I'll tell you what
if I did, that's probably where I'll be hitting, So.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You'll be hitting the farve of you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'll be gone and going and having a lot. But yeah,
I do not too sure to deal with one just
at the moment. So but maybe next year.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh you might need a lawmo could arguably be cheaper
than the lawmoer lower maintenance.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, truly true.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It might be a but weird at my place though
for the old for the old hooves, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Prints of it waterlogged at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And that's the beauty of a Tiger Rugby tomorrow night.
They've got the glasshouse as a referred to at forsythe
Bar Stadium playing they have plenty. Canterbury gives Hawks Bay
as the MPC gets down to the real business section.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Certainly does. And Targo as a team on the rise,
aren't they?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And do just riding this wave playing some pretty good body.
Just so good to see cam Miller knocking over that
that eighty third minute penalty to get them through to
the to the first semi final in a very long time.
And now we've got this added bonus of Nickers I'm
getting loaned out for the Stags and and so we'll
(01:49):
have someone in a marine jersey turning out startling for
the starting for a Targo, which is somewhat of a
bizarre situation.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's a debacle, is it not.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's it's uh, you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Tell me there isn't a player and a tiger. They
can't throw a ball on hooker ball on a scrum there.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I mean, yeah, I guess my understanding of the rules
is that they can you can only get a can
only get a loan player situation in this as a
front rowers as.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
A safety concern.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But yeah, I would wonder if there is a player
that's physically capable somewhere in a Tago Central Tago of
playing hooker.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
For a Targo.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But you know, Tiger want to want a semi final
as well, so they've obviously gone looking down the road
to see if there was if there was anyone, and
they might have they might have even given Jack Taylor
a week all and and Jack wasn't available. So Nick Sushan,
who's a player who's sort of who's bounced around a
wee bit in terms of MPC Province, has made a
(02:48):
Super rugby debut for the Hurricanes earlier this year. I
thought did a great job spect Brown in at the
Stags campaign. I thought it was one of the big
improvers for the Stags and had you know, he's got
a nice turn of pace and had a couple of
quite nice touches, So a great opportunity for him to
play and what's going to be a pretty high pressured match.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I've got David later on the show tomorrow a Targo legend.
I'll be interested to get his take on this. But
look at Tago's played well can it Rey against Hawks
Bay and the other game. I think I want the
winner of this game in Dunedin tomorrow to go and
win the whole competition. But Dylan Pledger, why has he
been picked in the AB's fifteen.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Definitely a player that's good enough a to be to
be considered in that selection, and a player from everything
that we've seen in this meteoric rise who you would
imagine is going to be playing in the All Blacks,
probably later rather than sooner, but we'll you know, as
an All Black of the future. But she's played a
(03:49):
lot of footy this year. He's been away on two
Under twenties tours. He's then his head as MPs first
MPC campaign which has obviously been a great one for
a and now is going through to the playoffs. So
he's played a lot of rugby. Can understand why the
powers that be and Jamie Joseph in particular just want
(04:09):
to maybe give them a bit of a breakover the summer,
fresh in them up and see how he goes with
the Highlanders, and you know he's a sort of player
hopefully that we'll be able to spark that young team
next year. You know, it's sort of it's got shades
of a of a young Aaron Smith coming down from
one or two a few years ago, replacing Jimmy Cowan
and being part of that sort of resurgence of the
(04:30):
of the Highlanders that led through to the all the
way through to that that Super Rugby title in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So I don't want to put too much.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Pressure on him, a young Dylan, but you know this
this could be hopefully, this could be history repeating itself.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Do you think there's the case of Jamie Joseph wanting
to keep his power to drive for Super Rugby next year.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I would imagine that that. You know, Jamie Joseph obviously
got designed around himself as an international rugby coach, so
he's not gonna he's not gonna pick mugs. You know,
He's obviously picked a squad that's going to be able
to do it job when he takes him on a
Northern tour.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Looking after that player and making sure that longevity and
getting the best out of him over the long runners
is surely more important than probably them chucking out checking
him out against the likes of Uruguay in a few
weeks time. So you know, it's definitely worth playing the
long game.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Jack Taylor and Sawan, whether they we talk about that
ABS fifteen rishly deserves the selection.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, a couple of outstanding selections for Southland. I think
I think you know just it's is that you can,
particularly in Shan with his case, it says that you
can come back to the Cargo, you can play for
the South and Stags and and you can still get
yourself selected into into these sorts of teams. He's been here,
was an absolute lionheart, wasn't he for the Stags? Thoroughly
(05:48):
deserved picking up most of the trophies at the recent
Rugby Southland Awards. And he'll be a great tourist. And
I feel like Jack Taylor isn't that is in that
same boat too, you know, had a good campaign with
the Stags. He's he's another player of the future. You
could you could imagine him wearing an all black jersey
at some stage in the future hopefully. So both of
(06:09):
those guys, good lads. They'll be good tourists. Jamie Joseph
knows them well, so he'll be looking forward to taking
them both away.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Now as the rugby season starts to conclude, the cricket
season is kicking into gear, albeit a little bit earlier
than normal, and it sounds like there's a scheduling issue
Tomorrow night, well Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess we've already we've already tucked
away one series, although we'll probably want to forget it
reasonably quickly. They Ausies did a bit of a number
on us and it was good. It'll be good to
see the back of Mitchell Marsh for a while. But yeah,
England arrive, which which is exciting. And then year we've
got this clash with in Christ Shirt's where where Canterbury
(06:50):
sports fans have to decide whether they're going to whether
they're going to be at Rugby Park or whether they're
going to be uh and Hagley watching the watching the
cricket both games on at the same time, but of
a clash of huge between TV and Z and Sky
and Kenneby rugby officials and whatnot, so haven't quite been
able to work it out. So so the fans are
going to have to work.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It out for them.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Residents Sporting Gary Nathan Burden always appreciate your time. Go
tago here, I.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Say it, We say it, you thinks, mate, laugh out
loud with agg proud because life on the land can
be a laughing matter.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer. My wife says to her husband, could
you please go and buy one carton of milk and
if they have eggs, get sex. A short time later,
the husband walks in with six cartons of milk. The
wife goes, why on earth did you buy six cartons
of milk? The husband says they had eggs. Yeah, it
is moved and quickly, oh no. We'll leave it there
(07:47):
for the afternoon. The podcast going up shortly. Feel free
to share it. It features all interviews and singular format
as well as a full show format. I me Andy Muller,
you've been listening to the muster on Hokinui. Thanks for
Peter Jeneix here, hoping that we're the sorts itself out
catch it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Stee
Good take.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome back to the muster before we catch up with
our residents, Sporting Guru. If you're looking for hardy, easy
cure rams, there's a place you need to go. That
is the far View ram Open Day's Sale, happening on Thursday,
October the thirtieth, from one pm onwards thirteen to eighteen. Waitahunah,
wist rode Lawrence. They've got Romney's, Rodney texalls and suff
ticks on display, bread for mothering ability, lamb survival growth rates,
(00:29):
all is sol recorded, beer heads, beer legs, beer backsides.
Take the off, heavy yarm with Hamish and the team.
That's a far View Ramsey Open Sale. Thursday, October the thirtieth.
Our resident Sporting Gary Nathan Byrden, Good, afternoon. Do you
need a RAM?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I don't need one currently, but I'll tell you what
if I did, that's probably where I'll be hitting, So.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You'll be hitting the farve of you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'll be gone and going and having a lot. But yeah,
I do not too sure to deal with one just
at the moment. So but maybe next year.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh you might need a lawmo could arguably be cheaper
than the lawmoer lower maintenance.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, truly true.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It might be a but weird at my place though
for the old for the old hooves, I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Prints of it waterlogged at the moment.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And that's the beauty of a Tiger Rugby tomorrow night.
They've got the glasshouse as a referred to at forsythe
Bar Stadium playing they have plenty. Canterbury gives Hawks Bay
as the MPC gets down to the real business section.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Certainly does. And Targo as a team on the rise,
aren't they?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And do just riding this wave playing some pretty good body.
Just so good to see cam Miller knocking over that
that eighty third minute penalty to get them through to
the to the first semi final in a very long time.
And now we've got this added bonus of Nickers I'm
getting loaned out for the Stags and and so we'll
(01:49):
have someone in a marine jersey turning out startling for
the starting for a Targo, which is somewhat of a
bizarre situation.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's a debacle, is it not.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's it's uh, you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Tell me there isn't a player and a tiger. They
can't throw a ball on hooker ball on a scrum there.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I mean, yeah, I guess my understanding of the rules
is that they can you can only get a can
only get a loan player situation in this as a
front rowers as.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
A safety concern.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But yeah, I would wonder if there is a player
that's physically capable somewhere in a Tago Central Tago of
playing hooker.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
For a Targo.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But you know, Tiger want to want a semi final
as well, so they've obviously gone looking down the road
to see if there was if there was anyone, and
they might have they might have even given Jack Taylor
a week all and and Jack wasn't available. So Nick Sushan,
who's a player who's sort of who's bounced around a
wee bit in terms of MPC Province, has made a
(02:48):
Super rugby debut for the Hurricanes earlier this year. I
thought did a great job spect Brown in at the
Stags campaign. I thought it was one of the big
improvers for the Stags and had you know, he's got
a nice turn of pace and had a couple of
quite nice touches, So a great opportunity for him to
play and what's going to be a pretty high pressured match.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I've got David later on the show tomorrow a Targo legend.
I'll be interested to get his take on this. But
look at Tago's played well can it Rey against Hawks
Bay and the other game. I think I want the
winner of this game in Dunedin tomorrow to go and
win the whole competition. But Dylan Pledger, why has he
been picked in the AB's fifteen.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Definitely a player that's good enough a to be to
be considered in that selection, and a player from everything
that we've seen in this meteoric rise who you would
imagine is going to be playing in the All Blacks,
probably later rather than sooner, but we'll you know, as
an All Black of the future. But she's played a
(03:49):
lot of footy this year. He's been away on two
Under twenties tours. He's then his head as MPs first
MPC campaign which has obviously been a great one for
a and now is going through to the playoffs. So
he's played a lot of rugby. Can understand why the
powers that be and Jamie Joseph in particular just want
(04:09):
to maybe give them a bit of a breakover the summer,
fresh in them up and see how he goes with
the Highlanders, and you know he's a sort of player
hopefully that we'll be able to spark that young team
next year. You know, it's sort of it's got shades
of a of a young Aaron Smith coming down from
one or two a few years ago, replacing Jimmy Cowan
and being part of that sort of resurgence of the
(04:30):
of the Highlanders that led through to the all the
way through to that that Super Rugby title in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So I don't want to put too much.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Pressure on him, a young Dylan, but you know this
this could be hopefully, this could be history repeating itself.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Do you think there's the case of Jamie Joseph wanting
to keep his power to drive for Super Rugby next year.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I would imagine that that. You know, Jamie Joseph obviously
got designed around himself as an international rugby coach, so
he's not gonna he's not gonna pick mugs. You know,
He's obviously picked a squad that's going to be able
to do it job when he takes him on a
Northern tour.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Looking after that player and making sure that longevity and
getting the best out of him over the long runners
is surely more important than probably them chucking out checking
him out against the likes of Uruguay in a few
weeks time. So you know, it's definitely worth playing the
long game.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Jack Taylor and Sawan, whether they we talk about that
ABS fifteen rishly deserves the selection.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, a couple of outstanding selections for Southland. I think
I think you know just it's is that you can,
particularly in Shan with his case, it says that you
can come back to the Cargo, you can play for
the South and Stags and and you can still get
yourself selected into into these sorts of teams. He's been here,
was an absolute lionheart, wasn't he for the Stags? Thoroughly
(05:48):
deserved picking up most of the trophies at the recent
Rugby Southland Awards. And he'll be a great tourist. And
I feel like Jack Taylor isn't that is in that
same boat too, you know, had a good campaign with
the Stags. He's he's another player of the future. You
could you could imagine him wearing an all black jersey
at some stage in the future hopefully. So both of
(06:09):
those guys, good lads. They'll be good tourists. Jamie Joseph
knows them well, so he'll be looking forward to taking
them both away.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Now as the rugby season starts to conclude, the cricket
season is kicking into gear, albeit a little bit earlier
than normal, and it sounds like there's a scheduling issue
Tomorrow night, well Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess we've already we've already tucked
away one series, although we'll probably want to forget it
reasonably quickly. They Ausies did a bit of a number
on us and it was good. It'll be good to
see the back of Mitchell Marsh for a while. But yeah,
England arrive, which which is exciting. And then year we've
got this clash with in Christ Shirt's where where Canterbury
(06:50):
sports fans have to decide whether they're going to whether
they're going to be at Rugby Park or whether they're
going to be uh and Hagley watching the watching the
cricket both games on at the same time, but of
a clash of huge between TV and Z and Sky
and Kenneby rugby officials and whatnot, so haven't quite been
able to work it out. So so the fans are
going to have to work.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It out for them.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Residents Sporting Gary Nathan Burden always appreciate your time. Go
tago here, I.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Say it, We say it, you thinks, mate, laugh out
loud with agg proud because life on the land can
be a laughing matter.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer. My wife says to her husband, could
you please go and buy one carton of milk and
if they have eggs, get sex. A short time later,
the husband walks in with six cartons of milk. The
wife goes, why on earth did you buy six cartons
of milk? The husband says they had eggs. Yeah, it
is moved and quickly, oh no. We'll leave it there
(07:47):
for the afternoon. The podcast going up shortly. Feel free
to share it. It features all interviews and singular format
as well as a full show format. I me Andy Muller,
you've been listening to the muster on Hokinui. Thanks for
Peter Jeneix here, hoping that we're the sorts itself out
catch it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
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