October 15, 2025 • 42 mins
Andy Muir talks to Peter Gardyne, Riley Kennedy, Joseph Mooney, Courtenay Nimmo, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been doing.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ben then the last far cold decembers are we call.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokanui. I
mean I you're here until two o'clock, of course, saying
sir Peter's genetics.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Appreciate your company. On a rather average.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Afternoon hearing Gore, here's a tip. If you're coming to Gore,
bring your parker, bring your jacket.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You might have needed what he had.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a little bit on the nippy side, but nonetheless
a sad day in New Zealand politics with the passing
of Jim Bulger. We acknowledged this as well during the
hour with local MP Joseph Mooney. Before we go any
further though, music for what are we Thursday all day?
Funny that Benson bone and so feeling alone.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
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and saff text. The proof is in the progeny Teffron
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
This afternoon showers of breezy west delies. You probably could
have guessed that, and a high of twelve. Friday cloudy
with brisk nor westerlies eleven and nineteen. Saturday morning showers
of breezy westerlies four and fourteen. Sunday morning showers of
breezy westlies. Let's not change the script six and thirteen
and on Monday rain with breezing or westerlies nine and fourteen.
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So the positive there is that there's no frost in
the forecast. I suppose no saw cheverages to give today
as such, So straight into it for Peter Gard and
farming out at Napdale, Riley Kennedy a business desk, this
Alliance meeting on Monday and in the cargo. The last
five or six weeks, all the talk's been about the
changes to Alliance with the Dormees proposal and it's all
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coming to a head.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Like I say, we acknowledge the passing of Jim Bulga
and a few other things. Announcements and the likes have
been grabbing the imagination of the rural public, especially last
Sunday around Methane Courtney Nimo from Beef and Land we
have a catch up and then our residents Sporting Gary
Nathan Burton talks about a south On flavor and the
NPC semi final in Dunedin tomorrow night. David Morrison of
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PGG writes thing gives a rundown on the children sale
that was held this morning, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We'll start the hour west Peter guard I and you're.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Listening to the muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics.
Peter guard Iron Farms and nat Dale and joins us
this afternoon, and what can only be described.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
As a pack of mix of weather once again as.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We get into the middle of October, technically almost halfway
through spring feet but it's been anything but plain sailing.
Good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Here you going, Andy, Yep, she's a she's another spring mix.
Al Right. We're into the track to work at home
at Netdale of the year, but we're not quite ready
for down the road just yet. So yeah, just a
bit of groundwork getting some stuff ready, bit of stuff
that's getting precision seeded that we're just you know, lining
up some contractors on that front and ready for her
rock and roll. But yeah, she's up airway. Especially, it's
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were so much better than last year because we just
don't have that soil profile full of water, so these
little bits of rain we're still gone again. First thing
the next morning.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was going to say the micro climates yet around
the south are crazy and just how close they.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Are, Yes, I mean where we are at Napdale. Granddad
was a bit more diligent than I am, and he
measured the what he's upper chat naturally, but his long
term rainfall average was seven hundred and eighty mils, which
is a lot less than most people would think. And
we do get it going around us a weave it. So, yeah,
it's great at this time of year. Not so much
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fun in summer.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So how are you looking on the on the lamb
side of things? Tailings all over and done with.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, tailing's pretty up to date. We've actually got the
crew from locking the crew there today so they're smashing
out a few, which is awesome. It's looking relatively positive.
It's not going to be any record break or anything
like that, but I think we've done done okay. And yeah,
we just we have sprinkled a weaver it of nirogen around.
I didn't think we're going to have to do that
this year, but you know, just that cool September has
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reduced her covers a wee bit. And you know it's
something that James Egger said on the radio the other
day and I couldn't agree with them more a how
do you expect you to perform? You know, in this
one time of the year that she's actually useful when
she's had have her lambs at How can you expect
her to perform on no feed? And yeah, I think
that's a bit of a hangover to the to the
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subsidy days. And you know, it's all about how much
weight can we get out the gate. It's not about
how many heads we can carry shout.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Out to all the contract as well. Trying to get
those tails off in this weather must be frustrating. But
the thing is, when you've got a day book, today's book,
you got to carry on right.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, they do a great, great crew And that's probably
a good point that i'd I point out. You know,
I used to run a crutch and gang and grew
up doing harvest contracting a bit of that sort of stuff.
And I actually personally think every farmer needs to work
for some form of a contractor before they go farming,
so that they understand that what all these contras just
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have to do, because you know, for you tailings one
day or two days or whatever it is, for them,
you know you're won in a string of a whole
lot of jobs. And same with the egg boys. You know,
everybody first dry day, everybody wants them there plowing their
peddic and it's just not quite possible.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Back to the old days of the backpack crutching company
based out of Riversdale and going to shed's there, the
lambs are a little bit damp, but like you just
got them in there and you got the job done.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You didn't wind your mane.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, no, we we had a pretty good run. We
didn't have a lot of wat lambs uf air way.
It's just one day. I remember actually up on the
Glenure Hill for a certain farmer and it was the
day before we went back to Uni and the fog
had rolled in the night before, which wasn't his fault,
and yeah, the problems wouldn't have any other options, so
we just got in and got the job done and
I think he was pretty thankful.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Actually, yeah, they're very appreciative when you do this, do
those jobs. It's hard yet.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Look, Pete, we'll touch on this about going into too
much detail. Riley Kennedy from Business Desk we're talking to
him shortly, but this Alliance D Day looming on Monday
as well. It's going to be interesting what way it's
going to go. Nothing's clear cut, Oh definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
The main thing I would say to all the Alliance
guys is get in and have your vote and make
sure you get your vote and encountered. I think I
know which way I'm going to vote, but I am
I like things about both offers and things that frustrate
me about both offers. Yeah, I'm sort of still even
on the fence, and I'd love to see a bit
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more detail. But I think it's something that we need
to get this voted on and get whatever happenings happening
and keep moving forward from here.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
When a process occurs, there's always frustration, as you talked
about about regarding how everything's been gone about in this case,
in particular, possibly better communication regarding this from Alliance.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I think there's a lot of things could have been
done a lot better. But it's also pretty easy to
pope sticks from the outside of the circle into the
inside of the circle. And I think I think it's
something that shows is that I actually think we have
a governance deficit worldwide. I think politicians and guys that
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go on these sort of boards. I just don't think
it has the prestige that it used to have, and
I don't think we attract the level of politicians or
directors that we used to attract, and I think that's
a little bit sad, and I think a lot of
that comes down to the tall poppy syndrome. And yeah,
like I've got the local guy I know pretty well
who's back on the Gordership Council, and I know he
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hasn't gained any here in the last few terms that
he's been on there, but I do really respect the
job that he's done. And what's not an easy job.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Just finally you've got through the landing season, do you
get a bit of a chance of taking a breather.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, we Yeah, we're sort of trying to roster people
off at the moment and we just had attract to
go away to wedding. So he turned back up to
work today. So it was pretty stoked about that, and
you know, we just tick away. But it is that
tractor sort of sees and now where you don't want
anybody on a wet day, and then on a dry
day you want to get four or five people driving tractors,
And yeah, I think you just got to remember that
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every day is another day. And if you look at
the calendar, we're so far ahead groundwrick wise than we
were last year that you know, there's another season. And
there's a saying that something along the lines of, you know,
the workers endless, but I am not. And I think
that's pretty apt to farming, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, an interesting way to look at things. Peter's
always always appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You enjoyed the avo, No worries sounds good, Peter.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Guardine of Napdale, or you're listening to the muster. Riley
Kennedy of Business Desk is up next to talking a
bit more detail about this Alliance situation that comes to
the fore, particularly this coming Monday.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Wine whose maybe laughing is the reason you can love
for yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Before welcome back to the Master. Riley Kennedy joins us
out of Business desk. He's been all over this proposal
regarding Dawn Meats and Alliance. Of course it comes to
a head this Monday, Riley, good afternoon, Monday is d day, very.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Good as no, yes, it is at the Escott Hotel
and the V Cargo. It's been a long process to
get to this point. But we're nearly there.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's been a long process, and it's been a messy process,
if we're honest.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it hasn't been the most cleanest process.
But I don't think I mean, the Alliance board would
tell you that this isn't their preferred option. They've been
very clear all along that they didn't want to sell. Ultimately,
it was it's the banks that of that that are
running the show. You know, they're not running it entirely,
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but that they have the ultimate day and they want
me money back, which is enough, and they have to
pay back the one hundred and eighty eight million or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So based on what you've seen, rightly, just how detrimental
would have been to the meat industry and to the
meat industry if it's a no vote.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, well some.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I would say that a no vote is probably good,
you know, take out excess capacity. But also you've got
to look at it from an industry. When I view,
we sell all more most of a red meat goes overseas, right,
we pride ourselves on having grout sed meat. If we
can't run a process or and a process of falls
into some sort of insulty process. It's not exactly a
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great look for us on the world stage, and you
just don't want i mean being solventy in the stream. Sure,
the nice people, but you don't want them running out
the process, including New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Do you ultimately can they survive a no vote in
your opinion.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Well, we've got to pay back the money and then
they have to pay back the working GPT facility, So
that is the ultimate and that will ultimately end up
in the bank's hands. If there's a no vote, that
the banks are in charges of Tuesday essentially and they'll
be running the show that they have. The ultimates say
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they could put blunt up, so they could though they
could do anything they're like within reason. They could put
it into receivership as of Tuesday. It's up to them
that they They've got a deadline of nineteen December to
get the money in and be paid. But ultimately, whatever
happens to the no vote is up.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Then there's a concern around Dawn meets as well, but
this can just be viewed as a short term fax year.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
You could have said that about Shanghai nailing or Bright
Meat and silver and farms I mean, Dawn Meats are
pretty sharp operators in the UK. I don't know them.
I don't know them at all, but ultimately the one
they're the only ones right now with a credible offer
on the table to pay the money. There is the
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end goal or the bottom line of this is that
they need that money to be repaid.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Right And do you think they still hope for a
remat super cooperative collaboration between likes of Silver Ferns and Alliance.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Well, I mean there's a lot of talk in the
industry about how all the processes need to work together,
but I mean nobody's put their hand up to do
it just yet. Then they are all open to working together,
but no one actually seems to get round the table.
And if they start working together too much then you
sort of fall into cartel concerns with the Commutis comission.
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So I think it's a very interesting position that we're
in and I think the next few years at a
process level is it's going to be really interesting to
see it or wash it out. And if you read
the Independent Northerington report that Norbington Partners did on the
Alliance still it lays out very clearly that New Zealand
has too many an excess capacity, particularly in cheap net processing.
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There's in South End, there's there's barn at the moment,
you know, they can think of it five of the
of the head. I was looking at the map the
other day. We have nearly fifty five processing plants in
New Zealand and we're we've we've got half the ship
that we did twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And that's a great concern going forward as well, Riley.
A lot of shareholders I've spoken to us saying egos
need to be left at the door, we need to
fix the industry.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think that there's there's obviously and rightly said,
there's a lot of emotion about the about the last
farmer owned fully farmer owned cooperatives being sold. But at
the end of the day, I think everyone just wants
to be paid a good price and when they stopped collected,
and whether that's owned by a foreign company, it's owned
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by New z own company, or it's owned by farmers.
You know, I think they're those concerns probably need to
be left at the door now and work out a
credible way forward, because you don't want the last man
standing you don't want to be you don't want receivers
in all New Zealander meat processes, which I'm not saying
that's going to happen, but it's just terrible scenario, particularly
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at a time when fun get prices at record levels.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
The so called white KaiA five of their counteroffer, was
this too little, too late, like maybe six to twelve
months ago, This might have been a bit more credible.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Perhaps, Yeah, again you need the bank support, which they
don't have. And so it's all very well and good
coming out with this proposal, and I'm more than entitled
to him to do this, but you ultimately need the
bank support. So and then the meetings in five days.
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So they should have done this in twelve months ago,
when the alliance's issues have not come around in the
past six weeks. I saw it being called as a
credible option the other day. I mean it is, but
the net profit TIG is of one hundred and fifty million,
I mean that it was just quite frankly, in my opinion,
it's just bizarre. I mean, we've never seen a processor
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at that level of profitability, and less than the last
five years. I think self in Farms actually might have
greeted at level in twenty twenty two, but then they've
reported two losses. So it's just I mean, they're more
than entitled to do that, but they should have done
it twelve months ago when there was more time.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Okay, Riley, if you're a bidding man, would you have
the yard set at one eighty seven?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Either way.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
I would, I wouldn't want to say, but I think
the crucial thing is is that people have got to vote.
You know, there's a bit of talk at the moment
about and people aren't going to vote. I mean, at
the end of the day, shareholders own the company as
their company, and so in my opinion would be you've
just got to go out and vote and then don't
let it turn out like the local elections and have
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a turnout of thirty nine percent or something. Equipment would
actually fail if it was that level. But I think
the crucial thing is either way, if you support it
or not, you've just got to go and vote.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Just finally, Riley, there's been a bit of a evil
at the top rank of PGG writes.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Them, Yes, this this is this is is hugely interesting.
I mean, PG writs from have had their governance issues
for a while. You know, every now and again there's
something that just sort of happens. But I was flying
to Cargole on on Tuesday and their annual meeting was
it was in christ Church and I thought, I'm not
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going to watch their annual meeting. You know. They seemed
to have sort of theirshes out and the lands named
the cargo and the famous blowing up and Agria the
largest shareholder and Elders which people will be familiar with.
It's you know, South Australian Real Services Assume had had
turned on Gary Moore, the chair and Sarah Brown the
deputy chair from from umber Cargo and voted them out.
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The just complete shop turned on them.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Why is that? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Nobody? Nobody really knows. There's two days on. There was
a statement to the insidets from Agria about an hour
ago which said, you know, we see this as an
opportunity to refresh the board. But they've nobody has given
any light as the why they've done with Gary Moore
than our former chair job. He's jobless. He met with
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Alan l of Akria on Friday and Alan said, you're
doing a great job. You know, we'll support you. And
don't expect any surprises.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Then.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Apparently the meeting in christ Church was very bland is
how Gary described it. He was working hard to even
extract questions from the floor. Then he went off, I think,
had a cup of tea and had a tap on
the shoulder telling him that he'd been voted out.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Interesting times.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Riley Kennedy, keep out the fantastic work at Business Desk.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Thanks Andy, you is not the one your men.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Riley Kennedy of Business Desk.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
All Roads leads in Vacado next Monday regarding this Alliance
special meeting.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
This is the master up.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Next MP Joseph Mooney, who's talk about the passing of
from Jim Bulgers. Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui.
The song is mister Electric Blue. Kind of that for
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our next guest. He is a member of the National Party.
He is an MP for Southland and joins us Joseph Mooney.
Good afternoon, oh good after any good to be with it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You always got to catch up. Look, we'll talk about
this and acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Firstly, the passing of the thirty fifth Prime Minister of
New Zealand and Jim Bulger.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Yeah, it's a sad day he was. He became the
Prime Minister second October nineen ninety six, and the first
MP election, in fact, the first election I voted in
as an eighteen year old, just seen eighteen, just short
for the election. But look, it's a really sad day.
He made a huge contribution to New order. It's one
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of the tring political figures of in our history.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
So it was deep, deep, entire old sister's.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Family loved London, all those for whom he meant a lot.
It was a yea, a real giant of new politics.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
In nineteen ninety he led the Nets to a landslide
victory to become the thirty fifth PM. And of course
you can't forget the work as well for the rural space.
Proud king country farmer.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Yeah, he was a very very proud king country farmer
and represented the sort of the farmers very well. He
did an event not that long ago in Parliament. So
it was Jim Bolder and Jim Parmer. We're just talking
about politics and the structure of democracy of Thanking in
a few different things. So yeah, I guess it's probably
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a nice memory for the two of them. I don't
have a event towards the end of Jim's Thimlers planet.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yes, his thoughts go out to his family and friends.
Methane target reductions. This was announced on Sunday. It's interesting
times in that space as well. We look at the
bigger piction ness Leigh with drawing from the Deary Methsane
Action Alliance. They put that in inverted commons, I suppose,
So I don't know as a tide changing regarding all this.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Well, there's definitely some changes happening, but I guess they
need to be set in context. It's in neicely withdrawing
from that needs to be selling context that they're not
withdrawing from their twenty fifty goals, and so you know
they're still going to take that seriously. It's really supply
chains and so it's obviously something that we need to
also consider. Look, it was a it was a balanced
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approach that was you know, I think a real win
for our farmers. So you know, it brought out farm taxes. Ever,
it's set realistic targets within partnership. It took the methane
reduction goal down to fourteen twenty four percent, so halved
it basically and said that you know, we're going to
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rely on technology, not taxes, and not be up to
each farmer and process here and company to side how
best to meet artments and the tools and innovatives they need.
And something I've been pushing for for a while is
is protecting food production. So will be a meaning in
the Climate Change Response Act, domestic legislation with the Paris Agreement.
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And also we're going to be making sure that we
are watching what the other big players in this space
are doing themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Federated Farmers is welcome just stance, but they're saying it
doesn't go hard enough.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Well, the Federated Farmers have you know, they've got to
represent their views. But look, this is a this is
a massive change, and I should say you know, Labor
took six years and just came up with a complete mess.
But it basically said they're going to shut down whole
lot of farmers at the end of a very long
process of industry. You know, seected work that it was
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done on this. So in six years they have hadn't
gone anywhere. We've blended this in two years with the
support of all the key stakehold groups and true including
federary farmers and so I think you know this is
this is a this is a huge step and something
to give farmers across New Zealand real certainty.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So you still do you think those farmers are going
to be able to afford this whenever it comes in
whatever way, shape or form.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
Well, absolutely, I mean we you know, we've made it
really clear that we're not going to be arell owing well,
we're going to be protecting food production. So that's that
is an article to unde of the Paris Agreement, and
some of the New Zealand negotiated with a sport of
other countries into into that agreement. So we're going to
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be corporate as domestic legislation. We're going to be focusing
on technology, not on Texas. And you know there's some
there's some cool things for result, there's an innovation like
echuypon which cuts effluent pond emissions by the ninety percent,
you know, but it's going to be up to each
farmer and importantly each processor. You know what tools and
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technologies they want to use, and we put it. We're
put investing a lot of money, four undred million dollars
into tools that can help cut the missions without hitting
productivity a.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Good news story as well as the figures that have
came out, like other figures that came out, I should say,
regarding structured literacy in schools.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, that's that's that's awesome.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
It's so Eric is Stamford, our education minis has done
some really good work in the space. And I've talked
to schools around our region. You know one Springs of
the Mind who has been doing structure literacy for three
years before the change came to place, and they said
it was absolutely a game changer for their kids. So
Eric has rolled us out and across the country, schools
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across the country, and our teacher has been doing a
really good job of making it operationalizing and making it happen. So,
you know, the Structure Literacy and the new eli's curriclum
EVM placed since term one and primary schools across the
Zealand and new entrances to tea to the finals check
up twenty weeks at school. The Team three final start
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that we just got shows that fifty eight percent of
those kids, those new entrant kids at above expectations.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
That's up from.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Thirty six percent in Term one and more forty three
percent of students succeeded expectations, which is more than double
or turn one rate, so that that's a that's a
massive achievement for Erica Stanford and for teachers who have
been delivering honest and making it happen.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And just finally as well, you had some visitors into
your office this morning from Miller's Flat.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Speaking of primary schools.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Yeah, I had to had some some of the kids
and the principal from Miller's Flat primary school. It's always
it's awesome, awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
We'll get a.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Visit from one of the schools and I'm here and
able to go and have a bit of a chapman
about what it's like being MP and some of the
work I'd get. And my favorite part is always answering
their questions and sort of seeing what's on their mind
and just you know, just getting the message that we're
hear working for them and their future and you want
to hear from them what they want to see in
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the future, and it's it's you know, it's true for everyone.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I trust.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You're wearing your Highlanders jersey today celebrating North to Targo
and Otago playing in the finals this weekend.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
I didn't bring one to Parliament, Joseph.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well make sure it's just still early afternoon. Go and
wind up the people you need to mate. We've got
to keep it in the South, Joseph Mooney, MP for
South and always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Go in there, the appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Joseph Mooney.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Here is mister Electric Blue of course MP for South
and you're listening to the Muster. Courtney Nemo's up next
from Beef and Lamb and before the end of the hour,
our residents sporting Gary Nathan Burden.
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Hakani Courtney Nimo joins us next in the Beef and
Lamb slot. As of this week, she was elected on
to being Deputy chair for the Beef and Lamb's Southern
Farmer Council and joins us this afternoon in transit.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Courtney, good afternoon, congrats.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh hi Andy, Thank you so much. Yeah, no, looking
forward to stepping into the role. Matt Taylor has done
an excellent job in this role, and yeah, we're really
grateful to have him in the Farmer councils some book
shoes to fill.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Just tell us exactly beck to the nuts and bolts
of what the Southern Farmer Council does.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So that's a great question. So as a group, we
work West Beef and Lamb and particularly the extension team
and we just work with them on reflecting what extension
activity is needed in the region and what's really going
to help us move the dial. And as a really
group of like a really diverse group of farmers bringing
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quite a bit of perspective. We're from right from Piano
right down Tokanui and then Awaka and then my South
and Clinton, So you know there's there's a big group
of us all you know, willing to put them insight
into this.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
So everybody's got a different viewpoint of supposed in different
parts of the region.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's the beauty of it, right, Oh definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And you know as a group, you know, we're really
engaged and I think that's the benefit of this is
we're really open to kind of challenge each other and
it's a it's a great group to be able to
grow as well personally as well as you know, supporting
Vcent Lamb and the extension team and the activities they deliver.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And there was a beauty of the other day just
getting all these opinions in there. We'll talking about Kate
Acklin her speech the other day, but look at the
new building which is a Kluther District War Memorial Community
Center there in Bookluther. But look we get onto the
agem and it was really interesting as well. The thought processes,
oh definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And yeah, just to come in on that that facility
is exceptional and this isn't it really proud. We're really
proud to have that, you know in our community. So
it really happy with you know how that's all gone.
So a GM it was. It was jam packed and
there was some awesome speakers. We had the Southern south
Land Farmer Council Chair Matt gave his report. Director Jeffrey
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gave an overview of his time on the board. We
had some updates from the reference groups and if you're
not familiar with those, they are there's the Research and
Science Environment and there's there's one more people and capability,
and this is a group of farmers and having an
opportunity to put input into some really critical challenges and
opportunities in our future. And so those three representatives in
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our region gave their update and that was all that
was awesome. And then we also had she's always a
highlight for me is Jenny mcgimsey from the besta Name
Economic Service, and she talked about you know, I guess
the key message from her she covered a lot of
really good insight, but was you know that we are
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receiving record prices for red meat and that's you know,
continuing to improve the revenue outlook. And she talked about
how this gives room for increased expenditure on items that
you know, we have been trimming in recent years like
fertilizer and R and M. And you know, can't forget
you know, decreasing interests for but for not everyone, but
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for some people out there is all helping and that
all rolling together, you know, points to improve profitability for
our sector and you know, as you know that that
flows into the community and into the regional economy, so
you know, it's all you know, it was a really
positive piece of information that that Genny shared with.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Us and Kate Eckland as well, talking about the positives
and the beef sector over the next few years. There's
some big figures involved, Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Definitely, and you know, you know, some of all some
of this is you know, will be available on the
Beaten Man website and you know will be will be
printed shortly. But I guess you know, also similar for
for sheets that her and you know, we haven't felt
that in quite a while. And she also talked about
the organization's priorities and we've all seen that, you know,
evolve over the last couple of years and seeing that
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reflected in the extension activities. So the other thing she
talked about was the productivity gains available for the sector
and particularly behind the farm gate productivity games, and how
the organization is going to be focusing on that and
that'll be coming through in the extension activity that we
see in our region.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Heaven forbid.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
We've even seen a little bit of a lift in
the wall market over the past couple of weeks too,
that was talked about, I.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Know, and that is yeah, that is so exciting and
I think, you know, sometimes we can get a little
you know, what's the word which we don't.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, we can get ahead of ourselves. But at the
same time, it's cautious optimism. But it is a great start.
So are calling it a generational sale a couple of
weeks back. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And I love that cautious optimism and I think I
think we shouldn't lose sight of that optimism. And we
talked about that at our Farmer Council meeting that morning
as well, So I think that is very much worth,
you know, celebrating the wins when they're coming. They might
not be quite where we want them to, but you know,
a windsor wins.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And finally Phil Morrison as well, giving a great talk
around leadership. He brought out all these diagrams and put
them up there and you're trying to take it all
in and almost take photos because there was a lot
of excellent stuff there about finding out who you want
to be involved.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
With your core.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh definitely. I had a lot come out of that session.
I was one of those people taking lots of photos.
But you know, he closed that, you know the day
out the really wonderfully and challengers or talking about you know,
who are the leaders of tomorrow? You know, who are they,
where are they, what do they look like? And it
really challenges everyone's thinking, and for me in particularly, I
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thought about, how is the secularly creating space for this
new spectrum of people and these are different types of leadership,
and you know, are we create that space for them
to see see an opportunity and into step up. You know,
there was people in that room who saw that and
actually saw themselves in that lineup who might traditionally not
have seen themselves in some of those leadership roles in
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the future. So I think that's all really positive because
you know, different people bring different thinking and that's that
can only be a good thing.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Gloria Courtney, appreciate your time when the Muster as always awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Great to catch up.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
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Speaker 6 (32:40):
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Speaker 3 (32:49):
Welcome back to the Muster before we catch up with
their residents Sporting guru. If you're looking for hardy, easycure rams,
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Our visit at Sporting Gary Nathan Burden, Good afternoon. Do
you need a ram?
Speaker 9 (33:27):
I don't need one currently, but but I'll tell you
what if I did, that's probably where I'll be hitting.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So you'll be hitting the farve of you.
Speaker 9 (33:33):
I'll be gone and going and having a lot. But yeah,
I do not too sure to deal with one just
at the moment. So but maybe next year.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh you might need a lawmo could arguably be cheaper
than a lawmower, lower maintenance.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, very true, it might be.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
But weird at my place though for the old for
the old hooves.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I don't the Prince of waterlogged at the moment.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
And that's the beauty of a Tiger Rugby Tomorrow night,
they've got the glasshouse as I refer to at forsythe
bar Stadium playing Bay of Plean see Canterbury gives Hawks
Bay as the MPC gets down to the real business section.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Certainly does. And Targo as a team on the rise,
aren't they.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
And they just riding this this wave playing some pretty
good body. Just so good to see cam Miller knocking
over that that eighty third minute penalty to get them
through to the to the first semi final in a
very long time. And now we've got this added bonus
of nickus on getting loaned out for the Stags. And
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and so we'll have someone in a marine jersey turning
out startling for the starting for a Targo, which is
somewhat of a bizarre situation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It's a debacle, is it not.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
You can't tell me there isn't a player in a
Tager that can't throw a ball and hocker ball and
a scrum there.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
I mean, I.
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Guess my understanding of the rules is that they can
you can only get a can only get a loan
player situation in this as a front rara as a
safety concern. But yeah, I would wonder if there is
a player that's physically capable somewhere in a Tago Central
Tago of playing hooker for a Targo. But you know,
Targo want to want a semi final as well, so
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they've obviously gone looking down the road to see if
there was if there was anyone, and they might have
they might have even given Jack Taylor a week all
and and Jack wasn't available. So Nick Sushan, who's a
player who's sort of who's bounced around a wee bit
in terms of MPC province, has made a Super rugby
debut for the Hurricanes earlier this year. I thought did
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a great job spece Brian and at the Stags campaign.
I thought it was one of the big improvers for
the Stags and and had you know, he's got a
nice turn of pace and had a couple of quite
nice touches. So yeah, a great opportunity for him to
play and what's going to be a pretty high pressured match.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I got David later on the show tomorrow a Targo legend.
I'll be interested to get his take on this. But
look at Tago's played, well, can it regains Hawks Bay
and the other game? I think I want the winner
of this game in Dunedin tomorrow to go and win
the whole competition. But Dylan Pledger, why has he been
picked in the AB's fifteen.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
Definitely a player that's good enough a to be to
be considered in that selection, and a player from everything
that we've seen in this meteoric rise who you would
imagine is going to be playing in the All Blacks,
probably later rather than sooner, but well you know, as
an All Black of the future. But GE's played a
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lot of footy this year. He's been away on two
Under twenties tours. He's then his head his MP his
first NPC campaign which has obviously been a great one
for a Targo and now is going through to the playoffs.
So he's played a lot of rugby. Can understand why
the powers that be and Jamie Joseph in particular just
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want to maybe give them a bit of a breakover
the summer, fresh in them up and see how he
goes with the Highlanders, and you know he's a sort
of player Hopefully that we'll be able to spark that
young team next year. You know, it's sort of it's
got shades of a of a young Aaron Smith coming
down from one or two, you know, a few years ago,
replacing Jimmy Cowan and being part of that sort of
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resurgence of the of the Highland as that led through
to the all the way through to that that Super
Rugby title in twenty fifteen. So I don't want to
put too much pressure on him, a young Dylan, But
you know this this could be hopefully, this could be
history repeating itself.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Do you think there's a case of Jamie Joseph wanting
to keep his power to drive for Super Rugby next year?
Speaker 9 (37:32):
I would imagine that that. You know, Jamie Joseph obviously
got designs around himself as an international rugby coach, so
he's not gonna he's not gonna pick mugs. You know,
He's obviously picked a squad that's going to be able
to do a job when he takes.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Him on a northern tour. But yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
Looking after that player and making sure the longevity and
getting the best out of him over the long runners
is surely more important than probably than chucking out checking
him out against the likes of Uruguay in a few
weeks time.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
So you know, it's definitely worth playing the long game.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Jack Taylor and Shawan, whether they we talk about that
ABS fifteen rishly deserves the selection.
Speaker 9 (38:09):
Yeah, a couple of outstanding selections for Southland. I think
I think you know just it is that you can,
particularly in Shaan with his case, it says that you
can come back to the the Cargo, you can play
for the South and Stags and and you can still
get yourself selected into into these sorts of teams. He's
been here, was an absolute lionheart, wasn't he for the Stags?
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Thoroughly deserved picking up most of the trophies at the
recent Rugby Southland Awards. And he'll be a great tourist.
And I feel like Jack Taylor isn't that is in
that same boat too, you know, ha had a good
campaign with the Stags. He's he's another player of the future.
You could you could imagine him wearing an all black
jersey at some stage in the future hopefully. So both
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of those guys, good lads, they'll be good tourists. Jamie
Joseph knows them well, so he'll be looking forward to
taking them both away.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Now the rugby season starts to conclude. The cricket season
is kicking into gear, albeit a little bit earlier than normal,
and it sounds like there's a scheduling issue Tomorrow night,
well Saturday night.
Speaker 9 (39:11):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess we've already we've already tucked
away one series, although we'll probably want to forget it
reasonably quickly. The Ausies did a bit of a number
on us and it was good. It'll be good to
see the back of Mitchell Marsh for a while. But yeah,
England arrive, which is exciting, and then year we've got
this clash with.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
In Christ there.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
It's where Canterbury sports fans have to decide whether they're
going to whether they're going to be at Rugby Park
or whether they're going to be uh and Hagley watching
the watching the cricket both games on at the same time.
Bit of a clash of heads between TV and Z
and Sky and Kenneby rugby officials and whatnot, so haven't
quite been able to work it out, So the fans
are going to have to work it out for them.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
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Speaker 5 (39:58):
I say it so, he thinks, mate.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
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Speaker 1 (40:45):
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Speaker 3 (40:50):
PGG writes and present stock selling action that occurred at
the Cholt and saw Yard this morning. Dave Morrison was
on the ground once again to give us a rundown
on prices.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Get a tigel, how do we go?
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Pretty good? It was.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
It wasn't a very pleasant daily and they're all the same.
It was hail and wind and rain, but anyway we
got through it. Yeah, good size yarding today. A few
obviously went to I used towing through the system just
with the the prime names, any of the very best,
the prim names of one hundred dollars, that's obviously the
very heavy end million lambs anywhere from sort of sort
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of two twenty through the two fifty was the general
trend today for the million lambs there it was the
light of the prime names around it sort of won
one fifty five to one and sixty and the Muddin
Texan quite alas yeating the mutton mutton. At these today
the best they use pretty much one eighty to one ninety,
whereas two or three weeks ago been sort of sort
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of through forty miny news from forty to one sixty.
What's the light of the news again ends around that
sort of ninety five one hundred and five dollars. We
love he using name for me today one hundred and
thirty dollars, and that wraps it up the
I've been doing.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Ben then the last far cold decembers are we call.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokanui. I
mean I you're here until two o'clock, of course, saying
sir Peter's genetics.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Appreciate your company. On a rather average.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Afternoon hearing Gore, here's a tip. If you're coming to Gore,
bring your parker, bring your jacket.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You might have needed what he had.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's a little bit on the nippy side, but nonetheless
a sad day in New Zealand politics with the passing
of Jim Bulger. We acknowledged this as well during the
hour with local MP Joseph Mooney. Before we go any
further though, music for what are we Thursday all day?
Funny that Benson bone and so feeling alone.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
This afternoon showers of breezy west delies. You probably could
have guessed that, and a high of twelve. Friday cloudy
with brisk nor westerlies eleven and nineteen. Saturday morning showers
of breezy westerlies four and fourteen. Sunday morning showers of
breezy westlies. Let's not change the script six and thirteen
and on Monday rain with breezing or westerlies nine and fourteen.
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So the positive there is that there's no frost in
the forecast. I suppose no saw cheverages to give today
as such, So straight into it for Peter Gard and
farming out at Napdale, Riley Kennedy a business desk, this
Alliance meeting on Monday and in the cargo. The last
five or six weeks, all the talk's been about the
changes to Alliance with the Dormees proposal and it's all
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coming to a head.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Like I say, we acknowledge the passing of Jim Bulga
and a few other things. Announcements and the likes have
been grabbing the imagination of the rural public, especially last
Sunday around Methane Courtney Nimo from Beef and Land we
have a catch up and then our residents Sporting Gary
Nathan Burton talks about a south On flavor and the
NPC semi final in Dunedin tomorrow night. David Morrison of
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PGG writes thing gives a rundown on the children sale
that was held this morning, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We'll start the hour west Peter guard I and you're.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Listening to the muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics.
Peter guard Iron Farms and nat Dale and joins us
this afternoon, and what can only be described.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
As a pack of mix of weather once again as.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
We get into the middle of October, technically almost halfway
through spring feet but it's been anything but plain sailing.
Good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Here you going, Andy, Yep, she's a she's another spring mix.
Al Right. We're into the track to work at home
at Netdale of the year, but we're not quite ready
for down the road just yet. So yeah, just a
bit of groundwork getting some stuff ready, bit of stuff
that's getting precision seeded that we're just you know, lining
up some contractors on that front and ready for her
rock and roll. But yeah, she's up airway. Especially, it's
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were so much better than last year because we just
don't have that soil profile full of water, so these
little bits of rain we're still gone again. First thing
the next morning.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was going to say the micro climates yet around
the south are crazy and just how close they.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Are, Yes, I mean where we are at Napdale. Granddad
was a bit more diligent than I am, and he
measured the what he's upper chat naturally, but his long
term rainfall average was seven hundred and eighty mils, which
is a lot less than most people would think. And
we do get it going around us a weave it. So, yeah,
it's great at this time of year. Not so much
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fun in summer.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So how are you looking on the on the lamb
side of things? Tailings all over and done with.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, tailing's pretty up to date. We've actually got the
crew from locking the crew there today so they're smashing
out a few, which is awesome. It's looking relatively positive.
It's not going to be any record break or anything
like that, but I think we've done done okay. And yeah,
we just we have sprinkled a weaver it of nirogen around.
I didn't think we're going to have to do that
this year, but you know, just that cool September has
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reduced her covers a wee bit. And you know it's
something that James Egger said on the radio the other
day and I couldn't agree with them more a how
do you expect you to perform? You know, in this
one time of the year that she's actually useful when
she's had have her lambs at How can you expect
her to perform on no feed? And yeah, I think
that's a bit of a hangover to the to the
(04:24):
subsidy days. And you know, it's all about how much
weight can we get out the gate. It's not about
how many heads we can carry shout.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Out to all the contract as well. Trying to get
those tails off in this weather must be frustrating. But
the thing is, when you've got a day book, today's book,
you got to carry on right.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh, they do a great, great crew And that's probably
a good point that i'd I point out. You know,
I used to run a crutch and gang and grew
up doing harvest contracting a bit of that sort of stuff.
And I actually personally think every farmer needs to work
for some form of a contractor before they go farming,
so that they understand that what all these contras just
(05:00):
have to do, because you know, for you tailings one
day or two days or whatever it is, for them,
you know you're won in a string of a whole
lot of jobs. And same with the egg boys. You know,
everybody first dry day, everybody wants them there plowing their
peddic and it's just not quite possible.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Back to the old days of the backpack crutching company
based out of Riversdale and going to shed's there, the
lambs are a little bit damp, but like you just
got them in there and you got the job done.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
You didn't wind your mane.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, no, we we had a pretty good run. We
didn't have a lot of wat lambs uf air way.
It's just one day. I remember actually up on the
Glenure Hill for a certain farmer and it was the
day before we went back to Uni and the fog
had rolled in the night before, which wasn't his fault,
and yeah, the problems wouldn't have any other options, so
we just got in and got the job done and
I think he was pretty thankful.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Actually, yeah, they're very appreciative when you do this, do
those jobs. It's hard yet.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Look, Pete, we'll touch on this about going into too
much detail. Riley Kennedy from Business Desk we're talking to
him shortly, but this Alliance D Day looming on Monday
as well. It's going to be interesting what way it's
going to go. Nothing's clear cut, Oh definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
The main thing I would say to all the Alliance
guys is get in and have your vote and make
sure you get your vote and encountered. I think I
know which way I'm going to vote, but I am
I like things about both offers and things that frustrate
me about both offers. Yeah, I'm sort of still even
on the fence, and I'd love to see a bit
(06:25):
more detail. But I think it's something that we need
to get this voted on and get whatever happenings happening
and keep moving forward from here.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
When a process occurs, there's always frustration, as you talked
about about regarding how everything's been gone about in this case,
in particular, possibly better communication regarding this from Alliance.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I think there's a lot of things could have been
done a lot better. But it's also pretty easy to
pope sticks from the outside of the circle into the
inside of the circle. And I think I think it's
something that shows is that I actually think we have
a governance deficit worldwide. I think politicians and guys that
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go on these sort of boards. I just don't think
it has the prestige that it used to have, and
I don't think we attract the level of politicians or
directors that we used to attract, and I think that's
a little bit sad, and I think a lot of
that comes down to the tall poppy syndrome. And yeah,
like I've got the local guy I know pretty well
who's back on the Gordership Council, and I know he
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hasn't gained any here in the last few terms that
he's been on there, but I do really respect the
job that he's done. And what's not an easy job.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Just finally you've got through the landing season, do you
get a bit of a chance of taking a breather.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, we Yeah, we're sort of trying to roster people
off at the moment and we just had attract to
go away to wedding. So he turned back up to
work today. So it was pretty stoked about that, and
you know, we just tick away. But it is that
tractor sort of sees and now where you don't want
anybody on a wet day, and then on a dry
day you want to get four or five people driving tractors,
And yeah, I think you just got to remember that
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every day is another day. And if you look at
the calendar, we're so far ahead groundwrick wise than we
were last year that you know, there's another season. And
there's a saying that something along the lines of, you know,
the workers endless, but I am not. And I think
that's pretty apt to farming, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, an interesting way to look at things. Peter's
always always appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
You enjoyed the avo, No worries sounds good, Peter.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Guardine of Napdale, or you're listening to the muster. Riley
Kennedy of Business Desk is up next to talking a
bit more detail about this Alliance situation that comes to
the fore, particularly this coming Monday.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Wine whose maybe laughing is the reason you can love
for yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Before welcome back to the Master. Riley Kennedy joins us
out of Business desk. He's been all over this proposal
regarding Dawn Meats and Alliance. Of course it comes to
a head this Monday, Riley, good afternoon, Monday is d day, very.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Good as no, yes, it is at the Escott Hotel
and the V Cargo. It's been a long process to
get to this point. But we're nearly there.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's been a long process, and it's been a messy process,
if we're honest.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it hasn't been the most cleanest process.
But I don't think I mean, the Alliance board would
tell you that this isn't their preferred option. They've been
very clear all along that they didn't want to sell. Ultimately,
it was it's the banks that of that that are
running the show. You know, they're not running it entirely,
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but that they have the ultimate day and they want
me money back, which is enough, and they have to
pay back the one hundred and eighty eight million or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So based on what you've seen, rightly, just how detrimental
would have been to the meat industry and to the
meat industry if it's a no vote.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, well some.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I would say that a no vote is probably good,
you know, take out excess capacity. But also you've got
to look at it from an industry. When I view,
we sell all more most of a red meat goes overseas, right,
we pride ourselves on having grout sed meat. If we
can't run a process or and a process of falls
into some sort of insulty process. It's not exactly a
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great look for us on the world stage, and you
just don't want i mean being solventy in the stream. Sure,
the nice people, but you don't want them running out
the process, including New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Do you ultimately can they survive a no vote in
your opinion.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Well, we've got to pay back the money and then
they have to pay back the working GPT facility, So
that is the ultimate and that will ultimately end up
in the bank's hands. If there's a no vote, that
the banks are in charges of Tuesday essentially and they'll
be running the show that they have. The ultimates say
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they could put blunt up, so they could though they
could do anything they're like within reason. They could put
it into receivership as of Tuesday. It's up to them
that they They've got a deadline of nineteen December to
get the money in and be paid. But ultimately, whatever
happens to the no vote is up.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Then there's a concern around Dawn meets as well, but
this can just be viewed as a short term fax year.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
You could have said that about Shanghai nailing or Bright
Meat and silver and farms I mean, Dawn Meats are
pretty sharp operators in the UK. I don't know them.
I don't know them at all, but ultimately the one
they're the only ones right now with a credible offer
on the table to pay the money. There is the
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end goal or the bottom line of this is that
they need that money to be repaid.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Right And do you think they still hope for a
remat super cooperative collaboration between likes of Silver Ferns and Alliance.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Well, I mean there's a lot of talk in the
industry about how all the processes need to work together,
but I mean nobody's put their hand up to do
it just yet. Then they are all open to working together,
but no one actually seems to get round the table.
And if they start working together too much then you
sort of fall into cartel concerns with the Commutis comission.
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So I think it's a very interesting position that we're
in and I think the next few years at a
process level is it's going to be really interesting to
see it or wash it out. And if you read
the Independent Northerington report that Norbington Partners did on the
Alliance still it lays out very clearly that New Zealand
has too many an excess capacity, particularly in cheap net processing.
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There's in South End, there's there's barn at the moment,
you know, they can think of it five of the
of the head. I was looking at the map the
other day. We have nearly fifty five processing plants in
New Zealand and we're we've we've got half the ship
that we did twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
And that's a great concern going forward as well, Riley.
A lot of shareholders I've spoken to us saying egos
need to be left at the door, we need to
fix the industry.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, I think that there's there's obviously and rightly said,
there's a lot of emotion about the about the last
farmer owned fully farmer owned cooperatives being sold. But at
the end of the day, I think everyone just wants
to be paid a good price and when they stopped collected,
and whether that's owned by a foreign company, it's owned
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by New z own company, or it's owned by farmers.
You know, I think they're those concerns probably need to
be left at the door now and work out a
credible way forward, because you don't want the last man
standing you don't want to be you don't want receivers
in all New Zealander meat processes, which I'm not saying
that's going to happen, but it's just terrible scenario, particularly
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at a time when fun get prices at record levels.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
The so called white KaiA five of their counteroffer, was
this too little, too late, like maybe six to twelve
months ago, This might have been a bit more credible.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Perhaps, Yeah, again you need the bank support, which they
don't have. And so it's all very well and good
coming out with this proposal, and I'm more than entitled
to him to do this, but you ultimately need the
bank support. So and then the meetings in five days.
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So they should have done this in twelve months ago,
when the alliance's issues have not come around in the
past six weeks. I saw it being called as a
credible option the other day. I mean it is, but
the net profit TIG is of one hundred and fifty million,
I mean that it was just quite frankly, in my opinion,
it's just bizarre. I mean, we've never seen a processor
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at that level of profitability, and less than the last
five years. I think self in Farms actually might have
greeted at level in twenty twenty two, but then they've
reported two losses. So it's just I mean, they're more
than entitled to do that, but they should have done
it twelve months ago when there was more time.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Okay, Riley, if you're a bidding man, would you have
the yard set at one eighty seven?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Either way.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
I would, I wouldn't want to say, but I think
the crucial thing is is that people have got to vote.
You know, there's a bit of talk at the moment
about and people aren't going to vote. I mean, at
the end of the day, shareholders own the company as
their company, and so in my opinion would be you've
just got to go out and vote and then don't
let it turn out like the local elections and have
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a turnout of thirty nine percent or something. Equipment would
actually fail if it was that level. But I think
the crucial thing is either way, if you support it
or not, you've just got to go and vote.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Just finally, Riley, there's been a bit of a evil
at the top rank of PGG writes.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Them, Yes, this this is this is is hugely interesting.
I mean, PG writs from have had their governance issues
for a while. You know, every now and again there's
something that just sort of happens. But I was flying
to Cargole on on Tuesday and their annual meeting was
it was in christ Church and I thought, I'm not
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going to watch their annual meeting. You know. They seemed
to have sort of theirshes out and the lands named
the cargo and the famous blowing up and Agria the
largest shareholder and Elders which people will be familiar with.
It's you know, South Australian Real Services Assume had had
turned on Gary Moore, the chair and Sarah Brown the
deputy chair from from umber Cargo and voted them out.
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The just complete shop turned on them.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Why is that? What's going on?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Nobody? Nobody really knows. There's two days on. There was
a statement to the insidets from Agria about an hour
ago which said, you know, we see this as an
opportunity to refresh the board. But they've nobody has given
any light as the why they've done with Gary Moore
than our former chair job. He's jobless. He met with
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Alan l of Akria on Friday and Alan said, you're
doing a great job. You know, we'll support you. And
don't expect any surprises.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Then.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Apparently the meeting in christ Church was very bland is
how Gary described it. He was working hard to even
extract questions from the floor. Then he went off, I think,
had a cup of tea and had a tap on
the shoulder telling him that he'd been voted out.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Interesting times.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Riley Kennedy, keep out the fantastic work at Business Desk.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Thanks Andy, you is not the one your men.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Riley Kennedy of Business Desk.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
All Roads leads in Vacado next Monday regarding this Alliance
special meeting.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
This is the master up.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Next MP Joseph Mooney, who's talk about the passing of
from Jim Bulgers. Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui.
The song is mister Electric Blue. Kind of that for
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our next guest. He is a member of the National Party.
He is an MP for Southland and joins us Joseph Mooney.
Good afternoon, oh good after any good to be with it.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You always got to catch up. Look, we'll talk about
this and acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Firstly, the passing of the thirty fifth Prime Minister of
New Zealand and Jim Bulger.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Yeah, it's a sad day he was. He became the
Prime Minister second October nineen ninety six, and the first
MP election, in fact, the first election I voted in
as an eighteen year old, just seen eighteen, just short
for the election. But look, it's a really sad day.
He made a huge contribution to New order. It's one
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of the tring political figures of in our history.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
So it was deep, deep, entire old sister's.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
Family loved London, all those for whom he meant a lot.
It was a yea, a real giant of new politics.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
In nineteen ninety he led the Nets to a landslide
victory to become the thirty fifth PM. And of course
you can't forget the work as well for the rural space.
Proud king country farmer.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Yeah, he was a very very proud king country farmer
and represented the sort of the farmers very well. He
did an event not that long ago in Parliament. So
it was Jim Bolder and Jim Parmer. We're just talking
about politics and the structure of democracy of Thanking in
a few different things. So yeah, I guess it's probably
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a nice memory for the two of them. I don't
have a event towards the end of Jim's Thimlers planet.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yes, his thoughts go out to his family and friends.
Methane target reductions. This was announced on Sunday. It's interesting
times in that space as well. We look at the
bigger piction ness Leigh with drawing from the Deary Methsane
Action Alliance. They put that in inverted commons, I suppose,
So I don't know as a tide changing regarding all this.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Well, there's definitely some changes happening, but I guess they
need to be set in context. It's in neicely withdrawing
from that needs to be selling context that they're not
withdrawing from their twenty fifty goals, and so you know
they're still going to take that seriously. It's really supply
chains and so it's obviously something that we need to
also consider. Look, it was a it was a balanced
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approach that was you know, I think a real win
for our farmers. So you know, it brought out farm taxes. Ever,
it's set realistic targets within partnership. It took the methane
reduction goal down to fourteen twenty four percent, so halved
it basically and said that you know, we're going to
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rely on technology, not taxes, and not be up to
each farmer and process here and company to side how
best to meet artments and the tools and innovatives they need.
And something I've been pushing for for a while is
is protecting food production. So will be a meaning in
the Climate Change Response Act, domestic legislation with the Paris Agreement.
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And also we're going to be making sure that we
are watching what the other big players in this space
are doing themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Federated Farmers is welcome just stance, but they're saying it
doesn't go hard enough.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Well, the Federated Farmers have you know, they've got to
represent their views. But look, this is a this is
a massive change, and I should say you know, Labor
took six years and just came up with a complete mess.
But it basically said they're going to shut down whole
lot of farmers at the end of a very long
process of industry. You know, seected work that it was
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done on this. So in six years they have hadn't
gone anywhere. We've blended this in two years with the
support of all the key stakehold groups and true including
federary farmers and so I think you know this is
this is a this is a huge step and something
to give farmers across New Zealand real certainty.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So you still do you think those farmers are going
to be able to afford this whenever it comes in
whatever way, shape or form.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
Well, absolutely, I mean we you know, we've made it
really clear that we're not going to be arell owing well,
we're going to be protecting food production. So that's that
is an article to unde of the Paris Agreement, and
some of the New Zealand negotiated with a sport of
other countries into into that agreement. So we're going to
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be corporate as domestic legislation. We're going to be focusing
on technology, not on Texas. And you know there's some
there's some cool things for result, there's an innovation like
echuypon which cuts effluent pond emissions by the ninety percent,
you know, but it's going to be up to each
farmer and importantly each processor. You know what tools and
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technologies they want to use, and we put it. We're
put investing a lot of money, four undred million dollars
into tools that can help cut the missions without hitting
productivity a.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Good news story as well as the figures that have
came out, like other figures that came out, I should say,
regarding structured literacy in schools.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, that's that's that's awesome.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
It's so Eric is Stamford, our education minis has done
some really good work in the space. And I've talked
to schools around our region. You know one Springs of
the Mind who has been doing structure literacy for three
years before the change came to place, and they said
it was absolutely a game changer for their kids. So
Eric has rolled us out and across the country, schools
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across the country, and our teacher has been doing a
really good job of making it operationalizing and making it happen. So,
you know, the Structure Literacy and the new eli's curriclum
EVM placed since term one and primary schools across the
Zealand and new entrances to tea to the finals check
up twenty weeks at school. The Team three final start
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that we just got shows that fifty eight percent of
those kids, those new entrant kids at above expectations.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
That's up from.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Thirty six percent in Term one and more forty three
percent of students succeeded expectations, which is more than double
or turn one rate, so that that's a that's a
massive achievement for Erica Stanford and for teachers who have
been delivering honest and making it happen.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And just finally as well, you had some visitors into
your office this morning from Miller's Flat.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Speaking of primary schools.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
Yeah, I had to had some some of the kids
and the principal from Miller's Flat primary school. It's always
it's awesome, awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
We'll get a.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Visit from one of the schools and I'm here and
able to go and have a bit of a chapman
about what it's like being MP and some of the
work I'd get. And my favorite part is always answering
their questions and sort of seeing what's on their mind
and just you know, just getting the message that we're
hear working for them and their future and you want
to hear from them what they want to see in
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the future, and it's it's you know, it's true for everyone.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I trust.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You're wearing your Highlanders jersey today celebrating North to Targo
and Otago playing in the finals this weekend.
Speaker 8 (25:14):
I didn't bring one to Parliament, Joseph.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well make sure it's just still early afternoon. Go and
wind up the people you need to mate. We've got
to keep it in the South, Joseph Mooney, MP for
South and always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Go in there, the appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Joseph Mooney.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Here is mister Electric Blue of course MP for South
and you're listening to the Muster. Courtney Nemo's up next
from Beef and Lamb and before the end of the hour,
our residents sporting Gary Nathan Burden.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
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Hakani Courtney Nimo joins us next in the Beef and
Lamb slot. As of this week, she was elected on
to being Deputy chair for the Beef and Lamb's Southern
Farmer Council and joins us this afternoon in transit.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Courtney, good afternoon, congrats.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh hi Andy, Thank you so much. Yeah, no, looking
forward to stepping into the role. Matt Taylor has done
an excellent job in this role, and yeah, we're really
grateful to have him in the Farmer councils some book
shoes to fill.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Just tell us exactly beck to the nuts and bolts
of what the Southern Farmer Council does.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So that's a great question. So as a group, we
work West Beef and Lamb and particularly the extension team
and we just work with them on reflecting what extension
activity is needed in the region and what's really going
to help us move the dial. And as a really
group of like a really diverse group of farmers bringing
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quite a bit of perspective. We're from right from Piano
right down Tokanui and then Awaka and then my South
and Clinton, So you know there's there's a big group
of us all you know, willing to put them insight
into this.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
So everybody's got a different viewpoint of supposed in different
parts of the region.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
That's the beauty of it, right, Oh definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
And you know as a group, you know, we're really
engaged and I think that's the benefit of this is
we're really open to kind of challenge each other and
it's a it's a great group to be able to
grow as well personally as well as you know, supporting
Vcent Lamb and the extension team and the activities they deliver.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
And there was a beauty of the other day just
getting all these opinions in there. We'll talking about Kate
Acklin her speech the other day, but look at the
new building which is a Kluther District War Memorial Community
Center there in Bookluther. But look we get onto the
agem and it was really interesting as well. The thought processes,
oh definitely.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And yeah, just to come in on that that facility
is exceptional and this isn't it really proud. We're really
proud to have that, you know in our community. So
it really happy with you know how that's all gone.
So a GM it was. It was jam packed and
there was some awesome speakers. We had the Southern south
Land Farmer Council Chair Matt gave his report. Director Jeffrey
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gave an overview of his time on the board. We
had some updates from the reference groups and if you're
not familiar with those, they are there's the Research and
Science Environment and there's there's one more people and capability,
and this is a group of farmers and having an
opportunity to put input into some really critical challenges and
opportunities in our future. And so those three representatives in
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our region gave their update and that was all that
was awesome. And then we also had she's always a
highlight for me is Jenny mcgimsey from the besta Name
Economic Service, and she talked about you know, I guess
the key message from her she covered a lot of
really good insight, but was you know that we are
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receiving record prices for red meat and that's you know,
continuing to improve the revenue outlook. And she talked about
how this gives room for increased expenditure on items that
you know, we have been trimming in recent years like
fertilizer and R and M. And you know, can't forget
you know, decreasing interests for but for not everyone, but
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for some people out there is all helping and that
all rolling together, you know, points to improve profitability for
our sector and you know, as you know that that
flows into the community and into the regional economy, so
you know, it's all you know, it was a really
positive piece of information that that Genny shared with.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Us and Kate Eckland as well, talking about the positives
and the beef sector over the next few years. There's
some big figures involved, Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Definitely, and you know, you know, some of all some
of this is you know, will be available on the
Beaten Man website and you know will be will be
printed shortly. But I guess you know, also similar for
for sheets that her and you know, we haven't felt
that in quite a while. And she also talked about
the organization's priorities and we've all seen that, you know,
evolve over the last couple of years and seeing that
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reflected in the extension activities. So the other thing she
talked about was the productivity gains available for the sector
and particularly behind the farm gate productivity games, and how
the organization is going to be focusing on that and
that'll be coming through in the extension activity that we
see in our region.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Heaven forbid.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
We've even seen a little bit of a lift in
the wall market over the past couple of weeks too,
that was talked about, I.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Know, and that is yeah, that is so exciting and
I think, you know, sometimes we can get a little
you know, what's the word which we don't.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, we can get ahead of ourselves. But at the
same time, it's cautious optimism. But it is a great start.
So are calling it a generational sale a couple of
weeks back. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And I love that cautious optimism and I think I
think we shouldn't lose sight of that optimism. And we
talked about that at our Farmer Council meeting that morning
as well, So I think that is very much worth,
you know, celebrating the wins when they're coming. They might
not be quite where we want them to, but you know,
a windsor wins.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And finally Phil Morrison as well, giving a great talk
around leadership. He brought out all these diagrams and put
them up there and you're trying to take it all
in and almost take photos because there was a lot
of excellent stuff there about finding out who you want
to be involved.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
With your core.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh definitely. I had a lot come out of that session.
I was one of those people taking lots of photos.
But you know, he closed that, you know the day
out the really wonderfully and challengers or talking about you know,
who are the leaders of tomorrow? You know, who are they,
where are they, what do they look like? And it
really challenges everyone's thinking, and for me in particularly, I
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thought about, how is the secularly creating space for this
new spectrum of people and these are different types of leadership,
and you know, are we create that space for them
to see see an opportunity and into step up. You know,
there was people in that room who saw that and
actually saw themselves in that lineup who might traditionally not
have seen themselves in some of those leadership roles in
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the future. So I think that's all really positive because
you know, different people bring different thinking and that's that
can only be a good thing.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Gloria Courtney, appreciate your time when the Muster as always awesome.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Great to catch up.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
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Speaker 6 (32:40):
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Speaker 8 (32:44):
I don't take a.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
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I don't need one currently, but but I'll tell you
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they've got the glasshouse as I refer to at forsythe
bar Stadium playing Bay of Plean see Canterbury gives Hawks
Bay as the MPC gets down to the real business section.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Certainly does. And Targo as a team on the rise,
aren't they.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
And they just riding this this wave playing some pretty
good body. Just so good to see cam Miller knocking
over that that eighty third minute penalty to get them
through to the to the first semi final in a
very long time. And now we've got this added bonus
of nickus on getting loaned out for the Stags. And
(34:32):
and so we'll have someone in a marine jersey turning
out startling for the starting for a Targo, which is
somewhat of a bizarre situation.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
It's a debacle, is it not.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's it's.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
You can't tell me there isn't a player in a
Tager that can't throw a ball and hocker ball and
a scrum there.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
I mean, I.
Speaker 9 (34:52):
Guess my understanding of the rules is that they can
you can only get a can only get a loan
player situation in this as a front rara as a
safety concern. But yeah, I would wonder if there is
a player that's physically capable somewhere in a Tago Central
Tago of playing hooker for a Targo. But you know,
Targo want to want a semi final as well, so
(35:14):
they've obviously gone looking down the road to see if
there was if there was anyone, and they might have
they might have even given Jack Taylor a week all
and and Jack wasn't available. So Nick Sushan, who's a
player who's sort of who's bounced around a wee bit
in terms of MPC province, has made a Super rugby
debut for the Hurricanes earlier this year. I thought did
(35:35):
a great job spece Brian and at the Stags campaign.
I thought it was one of the big improvers for
the Stags and and had you know, he's got a
nice turn of pace and had a couple of quite
nice touches. So yeah, a great opportunity for him to
play and what's going to be a pretty high pressured match.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I got David later on the show tomorrow a Targo legend.
I'll be interested to get his take on this. But
look at Tago's played, well, can it regains Hawks Bay
and the other game? I think I want the winner
of this game in Dunedin tomorrow to go and win
the whole competition. But Dylan Pledger, why has he been
picked in the AB's fifteen.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
Definitely a player that's good enough a to be to
be considered in that selection, and a player from everything
that we've seen in this meteoric rise who you would
imagine is going to be playing in the All Blacks,
probably later rather than sooner, but well you know, as
an All Black of the future. But GE's played a
(36:32):
lot of footy this year. He's been away on two
Under twenties tours. He's then his head his MP his
first NPC campaign which has obviously been a great one
for a Targo and now is going through to the playoffs.
So he's played a lot of rugby. Can understand why
the powers that be and Jamie Joseph in particular just
(36:52):
want to maybe give them a bit of a breakover
the summer, fresh in them up and see how he
goes with the Highlanders, and you know he's a sort
of player Hopefully that we'll be able to spark that
young team next year. You know, it's sort of it's
got shades of a of a young Aaron Smith coming
down from one or two, you know, a few years ago,
replacing Jimmy Cowan and being part of that sort of
(37:13):
resurgence of the of the Highland as that led through
to the all the way through to that that Super
Rugby title in twenty fifteen. So I don't want to
put too much pressure on him, a young Dylan, But
you know this this could be hopefully, this could be
history repeating itself.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Do you think there's a case of Jamie Joseph wanting
to keep his power to drive for Super Rugby next year?
Speaker 9 (37:32):
I would imagine that that. You know, Jamie Joseph obviously
got designs around himself as an international rugby coach, so
he's not gonna he's not gonna pick mugs. You know,
He's obviously picked a squad that's going to be able
to do a job when he takes.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Him on a northern tour. But yeah, I would imagine.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
Looking after that player and making sure the longevity and
getting the best out of him over the long runners
is surely more important than probably than chucking out checking
him out against the likes of Uruguay in a few
weeks time.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
So you know, it's definitely worth playing the long game.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Jack Taylor and Shawan, whether they we talk about that
ABS fifteen rishly deserves the selection.
Speaker 9 (38:09):
Yeah, a couple of outstanding selections for Southland. I think
I think you know just it is that you can,
particularly in Shaan with his case, it says that you
can come back to the the Cargo, you can play
for the South and Stags and and you can still
get yourself selected into into these sorts of teams. He's
been here, was an absolute lionheart, wasn't he for the Stags?
(38:31):
Thoroughly deserved picking up most of the trophies at the
recent Rugby Southland Awards. And he'll be a great tourist.
And I feel like Jack Taylor isn't that is in
that same boat too, you know, ha had a good
campaign with the Stags. He's he's another player of the future.
You could you could imagine him wearing an all black
jersey at some stage in the future hopefully. So both
(38:52):
of those guys, good lads, they'll be good tourists. Jamie
Joseph knows them well, so he'll be looking forward to
taking them both away.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Now the rugby season starts to conclude. The cricket season
is kicking into gear, albeit a little bit earlier than normal,
and it sounds like there's a scheduling issue Tomorrow night,
well Saturday night.
Speaker 9 (39:11):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess we've already we've already tucked
away one series, although we'll probably want to forget it
reasonably quickly. The Ausies did a bit of a number
on us and it was good. It'll be good to
see the back of Mitchell Marsh for a while. But yeah,
England arrive, which is exciting, and then year we've got
this clash with.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
In Christ there.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
It's where Canterbury sports fans have to decide whether they're
going to whether they're going to be at Rugby Park
or whether they're going to be uh and Hagley watching
the watching the cricket both games on at the same time.
Bit of a clash of heads between TV and Z
and Sky and Kenneby rugby officials and whatnot, so haven't
quite been able to work it out, So the fans
are going to have to work it out for them.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
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Speaker 5 (39:58):
I say it so, he thinks, mate.
Speaker 9 (40:01):
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Pretty good? It was.
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It wasn't a very pleasant daily and they're all the same.
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very heavy end million lambs anywhere from sort of sort
(41:22):
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