November 6, 2025 • 9 mins
Jamie Mackay says it is ridiculous that the government is wasting money when the south is in need of financial assistance.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's time for the Country Crossover. The host of the country,
Jamie McKay, joins us once again. Good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. Good to have you back in
the driver's seat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Had a weekend away up in the Hawk's Bay last weekend.
I tell you what, I'm surprised there's not a statue
of you at the airport when you'd fly into town there,
because it seems to be quite a following for Jamie
McKay up in that region.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Dear, I say it, And what region?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hawks By, Hawk's Bay, Napier, Heavlock, North.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, no one's ever, No one's ever told me that's
very flattering. I'll give you half an hour to stop
that flattering, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And I'll take the other quarter of an hour to
ask you about any barbecues you going to this weekend.
Of course, you use us the other day this phrase
about the glass barbecue coming through in a text, and
you had no idea that it was a reference to mythm.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Fitter me, Well, I mean, when when have I come
across across myth in my life and have put that
out there. I mean, I'm from Riversdale, as I said,
the only Glass that I dealt with as a youngster.
Satan was a jug in the pub. I don't know
about Balfa and Bellcluther. You buggers probably were smoking up
big time or snorting. I don't know what you were doing.
(01:19):
It didn't do your rugby much good. But anyhow, in Riversdale,
our only vice was the brown stuff and monteur. It
was dB draft, which is I think I would choke
on it now. To be perfectly honest, I'm fad wow.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Maybe a snob.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, No, I'm an Emerson's man through and through, so.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nothing wrong with Vemicin's. But there's nothing wrong with dB.
That man deserves a dB.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, well, anyhow, I think your tastes mature as you
get older.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's debatable, But I tell you who deserves a dB though, Jamie.
I spoke to Paul Blue from Powering It on the
show yesterday Powering It. They're pretty well. There's still a
few people without power, we understand. But from where it
was a couple of weeks ago to now, those guys
have done an outstanding job.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh absolutely. And they've come from all over the country.
They've been working right around the clock. They had They've
never faced anything like this before, and he's done a
great job. And yeah, I think there's so many people.
I mean, what are we now, two weeks, two weeks
and one day on from the big wind event. Some
people still haven't got power, as you said, which is
(02:19):
almost unbelievable. But with the amount of damage, the amount
of work that's been done in those two weeks is
absolutely amazing. And Andy, I think it's it's it's brought
out the best and people as well. You know, sometimes
crises or tough times bring out the best in human
nature and people pitch in and help other people because
(02:40):
as my dear old late mum used to say, there's
always someone worse off than yourself, and.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That's pretty much the way it's been over the past
couple of weeks. You just need to make things work.
Work with your neighbors, work with your mates. I tell you,
I've never seen so many generators on trailers before either.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, we've had that, we've had that discush and on
our dairy farming operation. I think there's definitely going to
be a lot of generators bought. They may not be
for a farm, they may be shared between two or
three farms. But I mean whether you believe it or not.
I think climate extremes or more extremities in the weather
(03:17):
are here. This has happened this year. There's nothing to
say it won't happen again next year. Heaven forbid if
it does. But people need to be prepared. And you know,
when you live out in the country, you know the
power going off is not an unusual event. It certainly
wasn't when I lived in the country, as opposed to
living in a metropolitan area like the need and it
(03:37):
never goes off. I think a generator, even if it's
just a wee Honda generator or something from you and
Alan Honda, shamelessly go just just to power you know,
your household so you can make a cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Southern District Mayor Rob Scott's come out, Saane. The government
needs to contribute more than one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars that has gone towards merror relief fund saying it's
not adequate considering as two percent of the population producing
fifteen percent of the country's GDP, and yet we give
money to go overseas. Do you agree with.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That country's overseas and charity begins at home? And I'm
with Rob Scott. Don't know the bloke andy, but I
like the cut of his jib, and I reckon. He's
bang on also about the future of local authorities in
south and looks sorry Gore District Council, but you're not
big enough to be a separate entity. The same with
(04:30):
Kluther District. We need some amalgamations. We need less local
body politicians and less local body authorities. But anyhow, he's
bang on, and I see the government that I'm going
to have a crack at Luxon next week when I
chat to him. Are giving six million out of the
tourism fund so we can get some toffee nosed twat
to come along and present. Michelin stars. Well, yeah, that's
(04:52):
fine and dandy, but I mean, let's start, as Luxon says,
with the must haves, not the nice to haves. And
Rob Scott is dead right. For a region that's as
economically important to our economy as the South Southland Southwest Otago,
one hundred and fifty dollars is a bit of a
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars should I say? I
(05:14):
think it's it's just a token gesture.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, the next thing you're going to tell me is
if you want fine dining Indoneda and you simply go
to Emerson's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Right, Well, their thrice cooked chips.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was about to say that chips.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, we look, they may not be good for the waistline, Andy,
but they're damn good. And Emerson's is obviously going to
be doing a roaring trade this weekend with the bearfest on.
So yeah, although I must say, I'll give you a
week clue the cheap and cheerful Japanese. It's called kimone
up in Roslind Village, just down the road from where
I live. As good as any. But there you go.
(05:49):
That's just that's a dining tip from me.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
If you're in Donedin, how would you say? Krystal Luxen's
going at the moment, look.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Largely I think he's doing not a bad job. His
problem is, excuse me, he's no John Key or Heaven
help me, just a dern in front of the camera.
And there in lies the problem his two coalition partners.
Excuse me, Andy, coffee coming back up on regurgitating on it.
(06:19):
I am getting old, Yes I am, I am. Indeed,
I'm a pensioner. I should be buying McDonald three dollars
coffee instead of paying six dollars fifty. Anyhow, what was
I saying his coalition partners and we had Winston one yesterday.
I don't know whether you caught it. That was fun
and Seymour, honestly, it's like I liken it to the
(06:40):
farm scenario, the analogy. You know how you've got a
good dog and it's jumping over the fence, the barbed
wire fence, and it gets tangled up in the fence. Yes,
have you ever seen that? And it's just the natural
wolf and dogs. And even though your dogs can be
best mates, if they see another dog in distress, they're in.
They're in for the killer. And I feel that's a
(07:01):
very clumsy analogy for what's happening with the coalition. And
I think as we near the election, we've got a
year to go. Now that Winston has freed himself of
the deputy prime minister's job, you're going to see him
come out and be more combative. He's already corrected Christopher
Luxen on social media about the iwe think same with Seymour.
(07:24):
They're going to try and cannibalize his votes or the
national vote so I have no doubt with the economy
turning that we're going to get a coalition government back.
But my take on it a year out Andy would
be that New Zealand First is a double digit party
and I think ACT will be very close to that
as well. And if that happens, that could leave National
(07:44):
with I don't know, high twenties or something like that,
so with less power. That's how I read it. I
cannot see for the lie for me well, and Chippy
can't form it. The only way Chippy can form a
government is if Winston has a change of heart. Winston
does that, I'll never speak to him again. But to
Party Maury are just a side show. It's a circus,
(08:07):
an absolute circus. They're imploding. There is no pathway for
Chippy or a center left government to govern next year.
God help us if they do.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Andy, just quickly to wrap up the ullbacks against Scotland.
We've never lost to Scotland, We've drawn a couple of times.
This is a potential banana skin game for the Avs.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I reckon yeah, and Scott, I'm just looking at the
teams now, but I look through the I didn't really
follow the Lions tour that closely. In Australia, there's definitely
some Lions backs and there Finn Russell's are arguably the
best verse five in the world. But I don't know.
I just don't see that many household rugby names on
(08:48):
the Scottish side. They tell me they're good, they're well coached.
I like the look Andy of the All Black side.
I really like Quintepire and Leicester Fianganuku. In the midfield,
you've got the Bruce brothers there. And this is my point,
I would be very tempted because I'm a Jordy Barrett
fan as well. If I was running the All Blacks,
(09:09):
I'd chuck them back to fullback. Sorry, Will Jordan, you're
brilliant at fullback, but you're also brilliant on the wing.
So I've got Jordy at fullback, Will on one wing,
Leroy Carter on the other. I love Leroy those two,
and then you've got a back line with some punch.
I think that this could be. This could be a
(09:30):
midfield pairing for the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Jamie McKay will leave it there happy barbecuing outside of
that bit of steak.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
This week, right, I see Andy.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Jamie McKay and the country crossover. This is a muster up. Next,
back to normality, we catch up with Andrew Cochran out
of Any Fits,
That's time for the Country Crossover. The host of the country,
Jamie McKay, joins us once again. Good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. Good to have you back in
the driver's seat. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Had a weekend away up in the Hawk's Bay last weekend.
I tell you what, I'm surprised there's not a statue
of you at the airport when you'd fly into town there,
because it seems to be quite a following for Jamie
McKay up in that region.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Dear, I say it, And what region?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hawks By, Hawk's Bay, Napier, Heavlock, North.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, no one's ever, No one's ever told me that's
very flattering. I'll give you half an hour to stop
that flattering, okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And I'll take the other quarter of an hour to
ask you about any barbecues you going to this weekend.
Of course, you use us the other day this phrase
about the glass barbecue coming through in a text, and
you had no idea that it was a reference to mythm.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Fitter me, Well, I mean, when when have I come
across across myth in my life and have put that
out there. I mean, I'm from Riversdale, as I said,
the only Glass that I dealt with as a youngster.
Satan was a jug in the pub. I don't know
about Balfa and Bellcluther. You buggers probably were smoking up
big time or snorting. I don't know what you were doing.
(01:19):
It didn't do your rugby much good. But anyhow, in Riversdale,
our only vice was the brown stuff and monteur. It
was dB draft, which is I think I would choke
on it now. To be perfectly honest, I'm fad wow.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Maybe a snob.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, No, I'm an Emerson's man through and through, so.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nothing wrong with Vemicin's. But there's nothing wrong with dB.
That man deserves a dB.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, well, anyhow, I think your tastes mature as you
get older.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's debatable, But I tell you who deserves a dB though, Jamie.
I spoke to Paul Blue from Powering It on the
show yesterday Powering It. They're pretty well. There's still a
few people without power, we understand. But from where it
was a couple of weeks ago to now, those guys
have done an outstanding job.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh absolutely. And they've come from all over the country.
They've been working right around the clock. They had They've
never faced anything like this before, and he's done a
great job. And yeah, I think there's so many people.
I mean, what are we now, two weeks, two weeks
and one day on from the big wind event. Some
people still haven't got power, as you said, which is
(02:19):
almost unbelievable. But with the amount of damage, the amount
of work that's been done in those two weeks is
absolutely amazing. And Andy, I think it's it's it's brought
out the best and people as well. You know, sometimes
crises or tough times bring out the best in human
nature and people pitch in and help other people because
(02:40):
as my dear old late mum used to say, there's
always someone worse off than yourself, and.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
That's pretty much the way it's been over the past
couple of weeks. You just need to make things work.
Work with your neighbors, work with your mates. I tell you,
I've never seen so many generators on trailers before either.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, we've had that, we've had that discush and on
our dairy farming operation. I think there's definitely going to
be a lot of generators bought. They may not be
for a farm, they may be shared between two or
three farms. But I mean whether you believe it or not.
I think climate extremes or more extremities in the weather
(03:17):
are here. This has happened this year. There's nothing to
say it won't happen again next year. Heaven forbid if
it does. But people need to be prepared. And you know,
when you live out in the country, you know the
power going off is not an unusual event. It certainly
wasn't when I lived in the country, as opposed to
living in a metropolitan area like the need and it
(03:37):
never goes off. I think a generator, even if it's
just a wee Honda generator or something from you and
Alan Honda, shamelessly go just just to power you know,
your household so you can make a cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Southern District Mayor Rob Scott's come out, Saane. The government
needs to contribute more than one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars that has gone towards merror relief fund saying it's
not adequate considering as two percent of the population producing
fifteen percent of the country's GDP, and yet we give
money to go overseas. Do you agree with.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That country's overseas and charity begins at home? And I'm
with Rob Scott. Don't know the bloke andy, but I
like the cut of his jib, and I reckon. He's
bang on also about the future of local authorities in
south and looks sorry Gore District Council, but you're not
big enough to be a separate entity. The same with
(04:30):
Kluther District. We need some amalgamations. We need less local
body politicians and less local body authorities. But anyhow, he's
bang on, and I see the government that I'm going
to have a crack at Luxon next week when I
chat to him. Are giving six million out of the
tourism fund so we can get some toffee nosed twat
to come along and present. Michelin stars. Well, yeah, that's
(04:52):
fine and dandy, but I mean, let's start, as Luxon says,
with the must haves, not the nice to haves. And
Rob Scott is dead right. For a region that's as
economically important to our economy as the South Southland Southwest Otago,
one hundred and fifty dollars is a bit of a
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars should I say? I
(05:14):
think it's it's just a token gesture.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, the next thing you're going to tell me is
if you want fine dining Indoneda and you simply go
to Emerson's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Right, Well, their thrice cooked chips.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was about to say that chips.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, we look, they may not be good for the waistline, Andy,
but they're damn good. And Emerson's is obviously going to
be doing a roaring trade this weekend with the bearfest on.
So yeah, although I must say, I'll give you a
week clue the cheap and cheerful Japanese. It's called kimone
up in Roslind Village, just down the road from where
I live. As good as any. But there you go.
(05:49):
That's just that's a dining tip from me.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
If you're in Donedin, how would you say? Krystal Luxen's
going at the moment, look.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Largely I think he's doing not a bad job. His
problem is, excuse me, he's no John Key or Heaven
help me, just a dern in front of the camera.
And there in lies the problem his two coalition partners.
Excuse me, Andy, coffee coming back up on regurgitating on it.
(06:19):
I am getting old, Yes I am, I am. Indeed,
I'm a pensioner. I should be buying McDonald three dollars
coffee instead of paying six dollars fifty. Anyhow, what was
I saying his coalition partners and we had Winston one yesterday.
I don't know whether you caught it. That was fun
and Seymour, honestly, it's like I liken it to the
(06:40):
farm scenario, the analogy. You know how you've got a
good dog and it's jumping over the fence, the barbed
wire fence, and it gets tangled up in the fence. Yes,
have you ever seen that? And it's just the natural
wolf and dogs. And even though your dogs can be
best mates, if they see another dog in distress, they're in.
They're in for the killer. And I feel that's a
(07:01):
very clumsy analogy for what's happening with the coalition. And
I think as we near the election, we've got a
year to go. Now that Winston has freed himself of
the deputy prime minister's job, you're going to see him
come out and be more combative. He's already corrected Christopher
Luxen on social media about the iwe think same with Seymour.
(07:24):
They're going to try and cannibalize his votes or the
national vote so I have no doubt with the economy
turning that we're going to get a coalition government back.
But my take on it a year out Andy would
be that New Zealand First is a double digit party
and I think ACT will be very close to that
as well. And if that happens, that could leave National
(07:44):
with I don't know, high twenties or something like that,
so with less power. That's how I read it. I
cannot see for the lie for me well, and Chippy
can't form it. The only way Chippy can form a
government is if Winston has a change of heart. Winston
does that, I'll never speak to him again. But to
Party Maury are just a side show. It's a circus,
(08:07):
an absolute circus. They're imploding. There is no pathway for
Chippy or a center left government to govern next year.
God help us if they do.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Andy, just quickly to wrap up the ullbacks against Scotland.
We've never lost to Scotland, We've drawn a couple of times.
This is a potential banana skin game for the Avs.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I reckon yeah, and Scott, I'm just looking at the
teams now, but I look through the I didn't really
follow the Lions tour that closely. In Australia, there's definitely
some Lions backs and there Finn Russell's are arguably the
best verse five in the world. But I don't know.
I just don't see that many household rugby names on
(08:48):
the Scottish side. They tell me they're good, they're well coached.
I like the look Andy of the All Black side.
I really like Quintepire and Leicester Fianganuku. In the midfield,
you've got the Bruce brothers there. And this is my point,
I would be very tempted because I'm a Jordy Barrett
fan as well. If I was running the All Blacks,
(09:09):
I'd chuck them back to fullback. Sorry, Will Jordan, you're
brilliant at fullback, but you're also brilliant on the wing.
So I've got Jordy at fullback, Will on one wing,
Leroy Carter on the other. I love Leroy those two,
and then you've got a back line with some punch.
I think that this could be. This could be a
(09:30):
midfield pairing for the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Jamie McKay will leave it there happy barbecuing outside of
that bit of steak.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
This week, right, I see Andy.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Jamie McKay and the country crossover. This is a muster up. Next,
back to normality, we catch up with Andrew Cochran out
of Any Fits,
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