December 2, 2025 • 7 mins
Nathan Nelson looks at upcoming Dairy NZ events.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back to the muster. Nathan Nelson of Dari and
Z catches up once again. Nathan, Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Andy, get to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, good to catch up. It's obviously all guns to
the gunnel and the lead up to the busy season.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, it certainly is on the on the dairy front,
with obviously in the middle of our sort of homegrown
feed maximizing homeground feed events and between that and actually
juggling what needs to be done on the phone, whether
it's getting some mowing done or some bailage or crops
in the ground. Cows obviously been mated as well, and
probably better chat about winning some carves and hopefully getting
them off to their support blocks as well.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, just before we talk about that. As far as
feed covers, how's it looking, because it sounds as it's
feast or famine as far as moisture around the province,
depending on who you speak to.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, look where were yesterday Winton. We're sort of poke
at today and will be Bayswater sort of glad Vale tomorrow.
So yeah, sort of probably central Western I suppose looking
a picture to be honest. Yeah, there a bit of
pre grae mowing going on and good good covers and yeah,
set up reasonably well there, so but yeah, definitely very
(01:18):
variable across the chat. I think you and I were
having that conversation off here even yesterday. Sort of weather
pattern a little bit of a thunderplump where we were
and coming to town and it was sort of dry airs.
So yeah, certainly quite variable across the province, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So weaning weights and calves something you'd like to comment
on today, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, Look, it's probably that time of the year, some
preps already into that, just depending on rearing systems and
carving dates on farm. But yeah, certainly sort of thinking
about that. It's probably just one of those extra jobs
at this time of the year, very much a juggle
between getting everything done. But I suppose if we were
going to do it by the book and set up
for scales, obviously that's the most accurate way of doing it.
(01:58):
So again guideline, everyone's going to have their own sort
of views around this, but we would probably say like
minimum weights if you're running more that sort of Jersey
breed seventy five plus kilos over the scales. If you're
into that more crossbread type out of those minimum and
then up to that sort of top end freegin range
anywhere from ninety five to sort of one hundred kilos
(02:19):
over the scales, and then yeah, probably the other key
thing with that as well is if they're on that
at least a kilo of meal being consumed probably one
of the things that most people will know, but just
that sort of whole diet change around, yeah, weaning and
going out to support blocks or wherever those replacement cards
are going to be kept. Ideal, if you could keep
(02:40):
a little bit of meal going into them just while
they're going sort of through that transition phase, Yeah, at
least maybe a couple of weeks, a couple of three weeks,
just to keep that sort of consistent feed going into
the diet that they were on the home farm and
where they're going to for grazing. So, yeah, if you're
going to do it by the book, certainly those are
sort of the guidelines to be aiming for, or.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Just calf management one O one just maintaining ways and
putting it on.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, absolutely, and probably secondary to that, you know, like
that's ideal. The roaldeas We've always got maybe a few
cars that are whatever reason had a little health check
in their rearing system, or just a bit later carving,
or I don't know, just maybe poor doers. It's again
depending on mob sizes and what's possible, but really probably
the only practical option for them is whether they can
(03:27):
actually be sort of run a bit separate or almost
sort of treated as that yeah, sort of separate mob.
I guess, just to reduce a bit of competition, or
try and get a bit of fresh feed going into
them and help them get up to waits there. I
say it a little bit of compensatory growth if that's
an option, and probably one of the other things which
again just sounds dead obvious, but we probably see you know,
(03:50):
this have a big impact on growth rats or certainly
check young stock cars. Is just that access to like
clean fresh water and certainly as some of these days
are a bit warmer. But yeah, it's just sort of surprising,
like it sounds obvious, but that sort of yeah, clean
water can have a big impact on actual growth threats
as well for those replacement heaps getting off to a
(04:11):
good start.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And the other thing today ball management is all about
being safe.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, look, I think that's the key thing obviously Again
we've got listeners with a whole range of different systems.
Some are obviously running the all ab or sort of
using the wearables, but we've probably got just as many
that are still maybe a bit more of a traditional
mix of artificial breeding and balls and probably coming to
that stage where some are looking at bringing balls back
onto farm to run with them mix stage cows. So yeah,
(04:40):
I think probably the key messages for this time of
the year. I'm make sure those bulls probably land on farm,
like nobody likes having them around, but they do need
to be on farm probably at least a week or
ten days before you actually need to use them, just
to check that any lameness or any injuries or just
sort of yeah, give them that little bit of rest
or boost period before you're actually going to need to
use them. But certainly probably that chat with the team
(05:03):
on farm. They need to be managing them, just again
obvious things like mark them up or paint them so
they're reasonably easy to actually identify. Just have a bit
of a yarn around what your plans are and how
to deal with them and how you're actually going to
manage them on farm, and just keep that safety top
of mind to be honest as the key thing. And
they're obviously you know, charged up and keen to do
(05:25):
their jobs. So yeah, it's that's just having that set
around it isn't it to be honest? And again just
a couple of obvious tips there is you know, land
them on farm, keep them in their mobs as far
as their bull teams go, because again they're obviously working
out their dominant structures and who wants to be the boss.
So if you are rotating balls around, which would encourage,
(05:46):
just keep them in their same mods if possible, unless
they obviously get lame more injured. And then yeah, probably
again like from a technical point of view, the working
ratio to a thirty thirty cows to one working ball,
and those that's the key as long as that ball's
in working order. Sometimes a good idea, depending on programs,
to have a few extra balls go in to cover that,
(06:08):
you know, say weeks sort of five and six and seven,
and then just assess as you're going through, if they're
not doing a heck of a lot of work and
you're confident around your repro results and they're just scrapping them,
possibly actually take take some out and then probably just
the other side as well, just keeping yourself covered from
a bi security point of view, a disease point of view,
(06:30):
if you are bringing those animals and off farm, then
like just make sure that they have got their disease
statuses as far as BBD or TV or YONIS and
some of those nassis that you're probably working pretty hard
to keep out of your herd. Just make sure they're
either coming with those certificates or have those vaccines and
sort of verified, because last thing you want us obviously
(06:51):
introduce a disease or something into your herd through that pathway.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Absolutely nice. Always appreciate your time on the master.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Good to catch up things and you live to you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Laugh out loud with agg proud because life on the
land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us by
sheer Well Data working to help the livestock farmer. My
wife just got home. She said, I've got good news
and bad news. I said, just give me the good news,
she says, the year bags. Work on your new car,
(07:24):
remembering go to the muster on how can we Facebook
page in conjunction with Mainland Minerals a five hundred dollars
preezy card we're giving away with Murray Kobra and in
studio on Friday afternoon. Go and leve a look on there,
and do what you need to do as far as
liking the page. Taking somebody in there who doesn't want
a five hundred dollars preezy card out from Christmas, right,
I mean, he buller, this has been the muster on Hakkanu.
(07:45):
He choose to Peter's genelix enjoy the afternoon, see you
tomorrow A little little higher had
Welcome back to the muster. Nathan Nelson of Dari and
Z catches up once again. Nathan, Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Andy, get to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, good to catch up. It's obviously all guns to
the gunnel and the lead up to the busy season.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, it certainly is on the on the dairy front,
with obviously in the middle of our sort of homegrown
feed maximizing homeground feed events and between that and actually
juggling what needs to be done on the phone, whether
it's getting some mowing done or some bailage or crops
in the ground. Cows obviously been mated as well, and
probably better chat about winning some carves and hopefully getting
them off to their support blocks as well.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, just before we talk about that. As far as
feed covers, how's it looking, because it sounds as it's
feast or famine as far as moisture around the province,
depending on who you speak to.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, look where were yesterday Winton. We're sort of poke
at today and will be Bayswater sort of glad Vale tomorrow.
So yeah, sort of probably central Western I suppose looking
a picture to be honest. Yeah, there a bit of
pre grae mowing going on and good good covers and yeah,
set up reasonably well there, so but yeah, definitely very
(01:18):
variable across the chat. I think you and I were
having that conversation off here even yesterday. Sort of weather
pattern a little bit of a thunderplump where we were
and coming to town and it was sort of dry airs.
So yeah, certainly quite variable across the province, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So weaning weights and calves something you'd like to comment
on today, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, Look, it's probably that time of the year, some
preps already into that, just depending on rearing systems and
carving dates on farm. But yeah, certainly sort of thinking
about that. It's probably just one of those extra jobs
at this time of the year, very much a juggle
between getting everything done. But I suppose if we were
going to do it by the book and set up
for scales, obviously that's the most accurate way of doing it.
(01:58):
So again guideline, everyone's going to have their own sort
of views around this, but we would probably say like
minimum weights if you're running more that sort of Jersey
breed seventy five plus kilos over the scales. If you're
into that more crossbread type out of those minimum and
then up to that sort of top end freegin range
anywhere from ninety five to sort of one hundred kilos
(02:19):
over the scales, and then yeah, probably the other key
thing with that as well is if they're on that
at least a kilo of meal being consumed probably one
of the things that most people will know, but just
that sort of whole diet change around, yeah, weaning and
going out to support blocks or wherever those replacement cards
are going to be kept. Ideal, if you could keep
(02:40):
a little bit of meal going into them just while
they're going sort of through that transition phase, Yeah, at
least maybe a couple of weeks, a couple of three weeks,
just to keep that sort of consistent feed going into
the diet that they were on the home farm and
where they're going to for grazing. So, yeah, if you're
going to do it by the book, certainly those are
sort of the guidelines to be aiming for, or.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Just calf management one O one just maintaining ways and
putting it on.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, absolutely, and probably secondary to that, you know, like
that's ideal. The roaldeas We've always got maybe a few
cars that are whatever reason had a little health check
in their rearing system, or just a bit later carving,
or I don't know, just maybe poor doers. It's again
depending on mob sizes and what's possible, but really probably
the only practical option for them is whether they can
(03:27):
actually be sort of run a bit separate or almost
sort of treated as that yeah, sort of separate mob.
I guess, just to reduce a bit of competition, or
try and get a bit of fresh feed going into
them and help them get up to waits there. I
say it a little bit of compensatory growth if that's
an option, and probably one of the other things which
again just sounds dead obvious, but we probably see you know,
(03:50):
this have a big impact on growth rats or certainly
check young stock cars. Is just that access to like
clean fresh water and certainly as some of these days
are a bit warmer. But yeah, it's just sort of surprising,
like it sounds obvious, but that sort of yeah, clean
water can have a big impact on actual growth threats
as well for those replacement heaps getting off to a
(04:11):
good start.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And the other thing today ball management is all about
being safe.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, look, I think that's the key thing obviously Again
we've got listeners with a whole range of different systems.
Some are obviously running the all ab or sort of
using the wearables, but we've probably got just as many
that are still maybe a bit more of a traditional
mix of artificial breeding and balls and probably coming to
that stage where some are looking at bringing balls back
onto farm to run with them mix stage cows. So yeah,
(04:40):
I think probably the key messages for this time of
the year. I'm make sure those bulls probably land on farm,
like nobody likes having them around, but they do need
to be on farm probably at least a week or
ten days before you actually need to use them, just
to check that any lameness or any injuries or just
sort of yeah, give them that little bit of rest
or boost period before you're actually going to need to
use them. But certainly probably that chat with the team
(05:03):
on farm. They need to be managing them, just again
obvious things like mark them up or paint them so
they're reasonably easy to actually identify. Just have a bit
of a yarn around what your plans are and how
to deal with them and how you're actually going to
manage them on farm, and just keep that safety top
of mind to be honest as the key thing. And
they're obviously you know, charged up and keen to do
(05:25):
their jobs. So yeah, it's that's just having that set
around it isn't it to be honest? And again just
a couple of obvious tips there is you know, land
them on farm, keep them in their mobs as far
as their bull teams go, because again they're obviously working
out their dominant structures and who wants to be the boss.
So if you are rotating balls around, which would encourage,
(05:46):
just keep them in their same mods if possible, unless
they obviously get lame more injured. And then yeah, probably
again like from a technical point of view, the working
ratio to a thirty thirty cows to one working ball,
and those that's the key as long as that ball's
in working order. Sometimes a good idea, depending on programs,
to have a few extra balls go in to cover that,
(06:08):
you know, say weeks sort of five and six and seven,
and then just assess as you're going through, if they're
not doing a heck of a lot of work and
you're confident around your repro results and they're just scrapping them,
possibly actually take take some out and then probably just
the other side as well, just keeping yourself covered from
a bi security point of view, a disease point of view,
(06:30):
if you are bringing those animals and off farm, then
like just make sure that they have got their disease
statuses as far as BBD or TV or YONIS and
some of those nassis that you're probably working pretty hard
to keep out of your herd. Just make sure they're
either coming with those certificates or have those vaccines and
sort of verified, because last thing you want us obviously
(06:51):
introduce a disease or something into your herd through that pathway.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Absolutely nice. Always appreciate your time on the master.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Good to catch up things and you live to you.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Laugh out loud with agg proud because life on the
land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us by
sheer Well Data working to help the livestock farmer. My
wife just got home. She said, I've got good news
and bad news. I said, just give me the good news,
she says, the year bags. Work on your new car,
(07:24):
remembering go to the muster on how can we Facebook
page in conjunction with Mainland Minerals a five hundred dollars
preezy card we're giving away with Murray Kobra and in
studio on Friday afternoon. Go and leve a look on there,
and do what you need to do as far as
liking the page. Taking somebody in there who doesn't want
a five hundred dollars preezy card out from Christmas, right,
I mean, he buller, this has been the muster on Hakkanu.
(07:45):
He choose to Peter's genelix enjoy the afternoon, see you
tomorrow A little little higher had
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