December 3, 2025 • 43 mins
Andy Muir talks to David Stevens, Joseph Mooney, Geordie Eade, Robert Young, Logan Savory and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Now.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The weather of this afternoon showers of breezy westerlyes in seventeen.
Friday thunderstorms are developing brisk nor Westerlies nine and twenty three,
Saturday cloudy with breezy Sol Westley's twelve and twenty Sunday
showers of northwesties forming ten and twenty five and our
Monday showers of breezy Sol Westley seven and nineteen. So
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a bit of a pick and mix some there to
choose from. So temperatures to hand o mikel the Dougy
fifteen point six, Clinton thirteen point six, Harriet twelve point seven,
Northern South And thirteen point four, Riverton fourteen t and
Our fourteen point six, Winton thirteen point three and Woodman's
thirteen point one. David Stevens, dear farmer based at Netherdale
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in Balfer. Expect David Goes to explain in a bit
of context about what's happening for velvet situation at the moment,
especially regarding career, North, South Korea and China where this
product goes to. Joseph Mooney in Beaver, Southland's on the
program Jordi Yed Farming at the River Era of the South.
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We have a ketchup see how things are going on
Jordie's farming operations. Robert Young and the Beef and Lamb
Slut joins us for a Thursday. Then Logan Savory out
of the South and Tribune talks about the rise of
Jacob Duffy, resulting in his five for yesterday. As we
look at the cricket as well the book Keywingsle they
are the black Caps. The lead now is getting up.
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Where are we one hundred and sixty runs roundabout. It's
just over there at the moment, getting towards lunch on
the first day, so they're not looking too bad. Tegle
Morrison as well out of PGG Rights and gives us
a stock stale report out of Charlton. Then we start
the hour with David Stevens. This is the Muster until
two o'clock. Thanks to Penstenis, we're away to Neverdale at
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Balfer this afternoon. Catching up with David Stevens of course
has sign that you're tuned. If he was a wrestler
back in the day with the w W Weaver would
have been a little bit of acadeck. A good afternoon, David.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Good afternoon, Andy. Yes, I might have to sneak over
doses to go and watch them actually now out there.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
At Balfer on the Farm of course at nether Dale Health,
things been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, we've just well we've just taken a lot of
silid job actually, so we've had a reasonable growth things,
probably a wee bit slower than in other years, but
I know we're taking you along and we don't have
a lot of deer here now, so all the deer
farmers out there that are doing valving will be into
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the two year olds involving in them at the moment,
so and also probably trying to move a bit of
velvet too, which has been but we've been of a
challenge this year. That's been I think buyers are picking
it up, but a lot of them haven't put a
price on it yet and they've sort of given them
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a deposit to just pick it up. So it's been
a little bit of a challenge for the dear farmers
that have major velvet producers.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, the velveting situation, it's not a flash onun Edie
Dennis was talking about it on Monday's show, but certainly
with South Korea and China being the two markets and
almost dictating what's happening. It hasn't been a very good situation.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
No, but that's I mean, we've been we've had some
good years actually, Andy, and that's when China's started buying direct.
I know, they do re export into Korea after they
process because obviously their processing is a lot cheaper than
what we can do it. But with China direct purchase
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from here, it certainly helped the market over the probably
the last six d eight years. So you know, we've
done well with that. And of course what's happened is
that the velvet heardy has grown, so we've gone from
what we used to talk about back in my day.
In wayback four hundred ton was sort of the max
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of what we could produce and actually keep a reasonable price,
and now we're looking at a thousand ton, so you know,
things have grown a lot, and in the market's grown also,
so you know, we've been doing reasonably well. But last
year things pulled back a bit. Obviously COVID and China
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hasn't helped this sort of a lag there with products
sort of sitting in the market, so they're in a
position where typical commodity, you know, the strength of you know,
the power should say has shifted from the producer to
the to the market those in the marketplace, so it's
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only affected things just out there at the moment. They're
probably talking around about that. For the top end, which
is the traditional velvet, around about the eighty dollars, and
there's probably not a lot of that in the market really,
it's probably only about fifteen percent, and then you're looking
at probably around the fifty to sixty might even be
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slightly lower than that. For the non traditional say, you
know that big heavy, rough stuff, you are not paying
a lot for it. So but to be fair, you know,
we've always realized that the marketplace there's always wanted that
tidy velvet. It's much easier to process. The big rough
stuff's hard to process and it's a bit of a challenge.
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So you know, the industry's changed a lot over those years.
We've ended up with a lot of super a velvet,
which is the big heavy stuff in the market now,
and it's you know, we're sort of paying the price
for it now. So I would imagine most people will
be cutting quite early this year, cutting the velvet early,
and you know, in the next couple of years, I
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can see the product volumes actually reducing because people will
be getting rid of the big rough stags, the ones
who grow the big rough heads, and I'll probably send
them to the processor and then cut early on their
good velvet. So I would imagine the volume for the
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next couple of years will drop back, and we may
even see it drop back to about eight hundred ton.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That sounds like one of the industries that are still
being affected by COVID, given that was five and a
half nearly five and three quarter years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, it hungover in China though for some time after
everybody else, So you know, it's probably not the you know,
it's just part of what's happened really to the velvet price.
It's only part of it. I think the volume has
just got out of kilter with the market and we
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need to either drop back or grow that market. So
that's had quite a huge effect really on the prices
this year.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So how long do you see it, David, until supply
demand meets equal base.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I think if we start dropping back, you know, we
could be a couple of years out. I think depends
this year. It's going to be very interesting just to
see where the volume ends up. Just a total volume
with those changes. I know there's a number of people
that actually have sent old next day stags to the
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works that are rougher. I think I made a comment
to you back sort of early winter that if I
was if I was still velving large numbers, I would
probably go through and color out all those big old
stags with the rougher heads. And I mean stage you know,
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the schedule was very good, you get space. I don't
think that's the case now. It's space is tightened right up.
So it could be a challenge because really with those
older stags, you've got a situation unless they're booked in it.
You know, the rut comes around and you can't actually
shift them. So that'll be a bit of a challenge
as well. But it'll depend a but on just It'll
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be interesting this year just to see what the volume
is at the end of the year, and I would
think a couple of years out anyhow, I.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Suppose I'm positive is the fake the Venison schedules remaining
pretty buoyant.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yes, yeah, no, it is, And yeah, I think and
also that elk market into the States, it's very good
and it looks as though it's going to hold up
right through sort of around that eleven dollars the case.
So that's pretty good going. It's a good market and
we need to look after it. But no, it's been
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interesting in the sense that there's been a fair bit
of grumbling take place in the process of this year
with the changes of the grading system. Looking at the
grading myself, personally, I think it's correct, but I think
the whole process is there hasn't been great.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Really, if you're going to look at changing the grades
you need to take that needs to take place really
in May so people are actually aware of things, where
the changes are and where things are going. So it
wasn't the process wasn't great. Personally, I think that it
was hijacked a bit by some of the buyers. I
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wouldn't blame DINS for the outcome. I think that they
were hijacked a bit on the way through. And I
think it's a lesson to be learned that the processes
need to work with the producers in any changes and
it's something that we need to do in the future. Actually,
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so I think the case of sitting down really DINS
is really only a facilitator and the producers and the
buyer should actually be making those decisions together if they're
changing the grades, So that's something we need to look
at really in the future.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Just finally, the New Zealand Velvet Awards. They're happening December
of the eleventh at Scott Park. This is always a
great time.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yes, n no, no. This is the forty third Velvet
and hard Antler Awards. So it's a good Christmas do really,
I suppose for anybody who wants to come along. We've
got a guest speaker this year, Amy Scott, and I
didn't know much about her, but they say she's very good.
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I think she brings along and tells me on a
bier that energy, honesty and zero fluff. I'm not quite
sure subject subjects are less friction, more fun, so it
could be an interesting night. So I'm not quite sure
whether she's from Central Central to Targo originally, but it
says that she's spent some time in wool sheds in
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Central Targo, so that could lead to anything, couldn't it really?
But no, it's a good night and if anybody's wanting tickets,
it's probably deer farmers are probably the easiest way to
get a ticket actually is to ring two seven three, four, seven,
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eight nine, fourth eight nine two six and get older,
Jane if you want to get a ticket, but also
just give me a l I can sort that out
for them. The awards dinners on the Thursday, I think
it's the eleventh. Yeah, and it starts at about five
o'clock in the evening, so you know it's it'll be
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a good night out.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Good only you, David. We always appreciate your time on
the Muster. You Lin and the family enjoy the festive
season and we'll catch up with you next time. All
the best for the awards next week as well.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Oh thanks Eddie, and I'd just like to wish you
a merry Christmas and you and the family have a
bit of time off and everybody out there just enjoy yourself.
I know it's a very busy time of the year
and sometimes it's hard to sort of relax, but no,
enjoy Christmas and having New Year. To everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
David Stevens, dear farminga Baltha, you're listening to the Muster.
Next we'll speak to our local MP, of course, Joseph Mooney,
MP for Southlands South and the MP Joseph Mooney joins
us once again on the muster. Good afternoon, Joseph. How
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are you?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Yeah, very good. I've finished my i rather long week
in Parliament. It's been a few days, three days precise,
and very glad to be back in the south. It's then,
I've got to say it's been a lot easier to
get back south. And it was to get north on Sunday.
I had up people to drive from Queens down to
christ Hitch and then catch a sixteen flight out of
the Crosshatch early in it's morning to be there in
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time to share my buddy.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
There's been a lot of issues of regional New Zealand
at the moment trying to get flights linking up. Yesterday,
for example, my wife was trying to get north and
she had a hell of a job regionally import working
at the.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Moment, because yeah, they bumped me to a flight the
next evening, and it was after I was supposed to
be cheering a committee for a full dawn on Monday,
so that wasn't going to work. And then for the
other people who are being bumped a Friday, so yeah,
it was it was rather challenging for anyone to get anyway,
but I managed to manage to get the laugh rental
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car out of Queen's sown.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Apparently it brings out the wider conversation like I alluded
to before though, Joseph around here New Zealand and the
fact that as New Zealand rural is rural New Zealand
as such being serviced by our airline as it should be.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah, look, there's there's some real connectivity issues going on
for regional New Zealand. For sure. It's something I've raised
repeated within his yelland and I know I certainly aware
of it, and I know the CEO has made some
positive noises about it. But it is an issue for
us without.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Question scrutiny week. This sounds as though everything just goes on,
nothing's off the table. I mean, people getting called to
jerk and all sorts of stuff. It's just made for
some really interesting viewing.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, look, I've I'm happy to say, well from my perspective,
I cheer the Social Student Community Slick Committee, which is
we had this weird the largest number of injutries to
review by a long margin. We've got twenty six of
them in about a third of the gover's budget that
we're trying to oversee how the aid and season partners
are a young and I say trying to see because
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you know, do the best we can in the time available.
But we have had some interesting times in the past.
But I've got to say this this year was I
thought of made it clear that questions through the chair
and I wanted people to respipt from givenment chance asked
the questions as long as I did that, and it
seemed to work really well, so we didn't have some
of the schernigans that went on other committees, which you know,
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I can't say it's all Mabe. Certainly I was pleased
with the way my committee went.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Perhaps it's a reflection on the way you go about
your business, Joseph. You can't understand yourself here.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I like to say a south some way, don't try
and don't try and you know, shout too much. But
I am I am happy to say that it went
pretty well. I think everyone's pretty respectful. Everyone got a
chance to ask the questions, and yeah, scritiny we went
reasoningly well. We didn't certainly didn't have a shirnings like
I said in other committees.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So justin a nuts shall explain what scrutiny week is
all about, so.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
It's an opportunity to look at the year and review,
so it's the last financial year twenty twenty four to
twenty twenty five, and to analyze how agencies and departments
have performed against you know, the metrics in terms of
what they said they were going to do, what had
been set in place in terms of their performance measures,
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and whether they've had the adequate financial controls in place.
And so it's an opportunity to basically get a performance
check up and members of Parliament to scrutinize, ask questions
of them and and of ministers. The primary focus is
on whether the agencies and departments have been performing as
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we'd accept them to.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So why does it disintegrate into just a shouting match
like it has this.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Week because the majority of the time is actually spent
scrutinizing officials, but there can be of short segments where
ministers come in, and when the ministers come in, the
reporters come in, and when the reporters come in, people
are looking to perform for the reporters to try and
get some attention in the media. So that's when you
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see that kind of behavior.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So from your perspective the parliamentary week sover you beckon
the electorate, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
It is yep. I've finished my journies in Parliament for
this week and yeah, beacon electric for the well most
of it. Have to be up in Auckland Saturday for
a little bit and be back down Apart from that, Yeah,
I'll be in the region.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So what's happening in Auckland on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
For example, there's a conference on blockchain and they've decided
their wisdom to nominate me for an award because I've
been trying to get a bit of more awareness amongst
other members of Parliament and officials about blockchain because it's
becoming quite a big technology around the world in terms
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of how it's used for a variety of different purposes.
And so I've arranged a few conferences in in Parliament
for an option to raise a witness and they've decided
to nominate me for an award from my well if
it's to assist. So it's a good way to get
me to come on to the event.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I guess oh, our congratulations. That's two major wins this
s weeek. Your committee didn't have yelling matches and you've
got an awards there. Remind you go to in Auckland
as well.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yeah, i'dlad you take the wins where you can.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So how long until the parliamentary year wraps up?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Our last sitting day is the eighteenth, so we've got
quite a bit of work to go yet. I've got
the Resource Management Act replacement, first reading of that coming
before the end of the year, so I'm anticipating we're
going to be pretty flat out leading up to the end.
But yeah, the eighteenth of the last day in parliament.
It won't be the last day working, but it will
be the last day in parliament.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
The Ari May situation is going to be interesting too,
given all the talk around these amalgamations of councilors, and
it's certainly got the tongues wagging Joseph as to what's
going to happen and how it happens.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yeah, absolutely, it's going to be probably notic I think
can change in thirty odd years, and we're aiming to
significantly symplify the entire process and put the focus more
back on you know, property rights and you know, make
sure we're actually you know, when we're doing things. It's
going to have improve environmental bottom lines rather than just
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tying people up the knots, which is what's going to
happen unfortunately a lot of cases for a long time.
And you know, importantly that's also going to reduce the
cost and complexity for local government and you know, and
it will change some of the way the local government operates.
So that's that's neverly. You know. It means that we
need to rethink the way regional councils work and that's
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going to lead to the attensions of all conversations which
has already started in the South and around you know,
the way the local government operates.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Good on you, Joseph. Always appreciate your time on the Master.
Will chat a game before the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Good in any I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Of Mooney MP for Southland. You're listening to the muster.
Jordi Yed is up next farming in the River Era
of the South, which is Riverton. We're away to the
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River Era of the South this afternoon. Of course it's Riverton.
We're catching up with Jordiy Jordi. Good afternoon. The music
today is David Bewie And you just threw off me,
You just threw at me. Sorry, off the top of
your head. Labyrinth from back in nineteen eighty six. There's
a good movie.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Yeah know, it was a good movie. Yet I haven't
actually watched it probably for forty years, thirty years, thirty years.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, the problem is when you go and watch movies
from yuse to year and you've got all these high
expectations and unfortunately time has evolved.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Yeah, I know, times evolved, but you know, probably the
Hobbit from the Lord of the Rings. I haven't watched
any of them, and you know, that was probably the
first of those types of things.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
How's everything over at the River era of the South?
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah, no, it took on pretty well, really did that
in terrain sort every weekend or every once a week,
but you know, it's everything to doing pretty well. We're
about to do weaning next week, so you know, I
can't believe that the schedule's held around that still e
eleven dollars and yeah, so get into it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Ye've been pretty cynical about the way things have unfolded,
especially with the Alliance group and that what was it
six weeks ago we got the news and we had
there were six weeks today since the winds occurred and
everything just went pretty quiet, understandably so. But then since
then everybody has spoken to who's been really grumpy. They're
just looking at the situation saying, right, we've got this
in front of us, let's just get on with it.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, I suppose it's been done and dusted. You can't
know use looking back. You just got to move on
and go with it. What the decision there has been made.
So we've just got to be happy with whether. You know,
I didn't disagree. I disagreed with it, but that was
my call because you know, I hadn't supplied lines of
lamb for their reasons, and I didn't feel as though
that they've really alter anythink of that. Nothing's changed. So
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I suppose time will tell to see what happens off
this new input, and we'll see what happens. I mean,
we still supply all our cows and beasts, but yeah,
I suppose time will tell.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think the biggest issue going forward is going to
be over capacity. And how do they get rationalization within
the industry. How do you start it?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Oh, yeah, there's massive over capacity in this industry. Like
you know, we're part of a Hoggit group and we're
just sort of you know, there's probably a bit of
capacity to be still gained in the industry with people
lambing their hoggits, but I don't really see any sheep.
Flocks are probably still only going to diminish, you know,
like those thirty odd to thirty two conversions in Canterbury.
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You know, they will be cropping farms, but there'll be
still a big portion of them, will still have some
sort of sheep operation involved with them, but they'll be
all wiped off.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like you talked about, Jordi. The fact that we got
this ten dollars at the moment or between ten and
eleven goodness almost around eleven as well, it's pretty buoyant
for the re meat sector.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
It is really boyant. You know, we're into our fifth
season of having a dairy farm, and I think this
is the first time nearly since of those five years
that the lamb's going to be exceeding the milk solid price.
So you know, after it's still a passionate she can
beef farmer's sort of jumping with joy inside myself will
eabit because you know that's what I've been wanting really,
but I just hope that we can stick it up there.
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I know that, you know, there's a lot of positive
news out there that will will stay around. But you know,
we are seeing a bit of downward slide on the
dairy side, but that's probably a supply and demand thing
that supplies sort of saturated really. But you know, maybe
with the lamb it's the opposite way around, is that
your suppliers really waved under demand.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You've more or less got your bets a dollar each
way around the situation that you can't really lose given
that dairy is still at nine nine dollars fifty is
and break even as a midway point. Sorry for Frontierra, well, I.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Fixed halfair milk at nine ninety, so that's you know,
that's already done and us it's sort of something that
Frontier off and I got caught out the way a
wee bit last year. But this year I thought, well,
they're not going to anything around that ten dollars. I'll
take it, and by the look of it that I
might hopefully it might be on the winning side this year.
But no, I've got that half as supplies hopped in
at nine ninety, So yeah, I would, you know, still
hope that the average is going to really still have
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a good nine in it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Do you have many people who have taken up that
forward option?
Speaker 7 (25:19):
No, no, No, I was just I'm just amazed the
last six months barely they've been really undertaken, and I
was just a surprise. They reckoned that the earlier ten
ones were taken up a fair bit, and that may
be why. But I think the dairy industry was just
bullish that was going to be you know, another ten
to eleven dollars, and you know, I think that's what
they want or need. But I suppose time will tell.
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But quite a few dairy farmers have got the thousand
situations where there high cost operations now for this halter
and everything. So yeah, I suppose they're hopeful that it
would have been ten. But I suppose we've just got
to hope that it still doesn't drop too much more
than what it is now.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And of course, fon Terra sawing your commercial arm, there's
a nice week of chink and checking the pipeline as well.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Yeah, that might be sort of a benefit to head
it up to the ten dollars. We'll see, but yeah,
this sort of probably were fortunate that I shed up
to a halfway about four years ago, so that was
quite good. So we've had a sort of good benefit
of that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So what's your reign tally been like over the past
couple of months.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
It was we're running at about we've had about thirteen
fourteen hundred for the year so far, but November ended
up about ninety. But that was on the back of
having sort of thirty on the thirtieth. So November was
really pretty dry. You know, there was only about four
days of actual rain and each time it came it
was over an inch. So yeah, I don't mind that.
That's quite the like turning the irrigator on.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yes, certainly, going to just keep things propped up nicely. Hey,
just before we wrap up as well. I mean we're
two years out from the Raby World Cup. For Pete's sake,
they're doing a draw early. But nonetheless this is going
to be fascinating. So the All Black So I don't
know if you caught up on this. Australia, Hong Kong
and Chili are in there in their pool. So then
against Australia and Perth sounds like it will be the
opening World Cup twenty twenty seven. But if we win
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that pool. We've got the spring box in this in
the quarters and England's on our side of the drawer
as well. I mean it's two years out. There's a
long way to try and predict what's going on, but
certainly the intrigue starts towards the next rugby cycle halfway
through it and get into the guts of it.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, I'm just amazed. I'm spitting taxwe but that. You know,
it's not really that they drilled it. So it's going
to be Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere team in
the final. You know, all these Southern Hemisphere teams are
all going to strike one another before the end, and
you know that's it. Just laughs to me, what world
rugby are doing? You know, I watched a bit of
that sare for an Irish game. It wasn't too bad,
(27:37):
but you know they're going to have to really majorsly
do some olderation to the rules. Nobody's going to be
watching this game. It's just just getting out of it
beyond a joke.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Well, there was one of those non Hemisphere games, the
All Black School to try and it was pulled back
about six phases. Now I went and googled it and
said it's only two phases for a knock on, and
so yeah, I don't know what's going on there, just yeah,
you know, to the time the conversional was taken, that
was it. But yeah, you're right, they go back halfway
now and recall it up again.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Let's go and blame Wayne Barnes. We've got to have
a scapegoat somewhere. Jeordie yid Hey, thanks very much for
your time on the Muster this afternoon and throughout the year,
and you enjoy the holiday season. We'll catch you in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
That goods colder Andy. Hopefully we don't have as much
woe next year.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Jordi reed at the River of the South, which is
beautiful Riverton. You're listening to the Muster before the end
of the year. A Logan Severry out of the Southern Tribune.
But up next and the Beef and Lamb Slot Robert Young.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
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Speaker 1 (28:49):
Robert Young is part of the Beef and Lambs Southern
Farmer Council and joins us this afternoon on the muster, Robert, how.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Are you good?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Good? Anon?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
How's everything been on the ranch over the last week
while you've got through October and November.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Ok Yeah, it's like it hasn't been the most joyful spring,
but it's been better than last year. And I guess
for us, we went into eleven with good covers, so
it meant that while we ended up dropping probably a
bit on cover from where we wanted to be, we
could still feed the stock, okay. And we've well air system.
We've got a few, a bit of trading stock and
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a bit of grazing in the system. So it gives
us the opportunity to pull a few springs when we
need to. And so we did things like shut up
by illigilator and stuff like that so that we could
so that we could feed stock. And so everything's looking okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Just for the uninitiated, Roberts, just tell people about your
farming operation.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Right, we're farming just out a bookrel We do a
combin that we've got a U flock. We also breed
breeding us and then we also do trading stock. We
stare lambs on three or four thousand a year probably,
and then we also do some trading cat all buying
twos and selling them November through January fIF three, and
(30:04):
we create a few Deercales Winter great Deweycals and a
few made of mahappers, which is how it happened.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, it sounds like a little bit happening, but everything
that's happening as well sounds as though it's in the
right price range at the moment.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah, it is nice. We're killing beef kettle at the moment.
And of course I've never killed three thousand dollars kettle before.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
How have you on the Hawks when you get in
three k though cheapers.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Three twenty eight the last lot, Yeah, and that was
three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You'd almost use the word unprecedented.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I'd say it would be. Yeah, hopefully it's not a
one off, but it's nice at the moment.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah. Just speaking to Jordye before and he was saying
the same thing. And depending on who you speak to,
the Lambs schedule looking pretty buoyant for the season.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah. Well, regardless what's happened with Alliance, we've still got
an extra killing capacity. So I guess they're going to
be hunting for lambs, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And that's great if you're if you're a if you're
trading lambs, if you're growing those lambs out, and heaven
knows after the spring, we've had two springs in a
row where you consider the consider them to be duds,
and the lambing percentage hasn't been as people want her.
But at the same time, there's certain things that you
can enjoy about the sector.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah. Well, I always say you don't get good production
in good prices in the same year. So we're doing that.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
How did your lambing end out? By the way, tailing
and the likes get through? Okay, we got through.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Ok it came in very similar to last year. We
were one hundred and thirty five or something like that.
Probably a little bit disappointed, but it was okay. Scanning
was back and yeah it will do.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah will Let's be honest. You always want more at tailing, right, Oh, absolutely,
just the nature of the game. Now you're part of
the Beef and Lambs Southern Farmer Council. Everything going pretty
good that side of things.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah, it's all kicking along. There's a little bit happening.
I think next week we've got a funding for profit
session over Odapiri on Tuesday. I think we're looking at
technology on farm and help integrated onto the farmer, specifically
looking at resolution and farm like Q, how they can
be integrated and what other ideas can be used. And
(32:09):
there a farm true as well, So it would be
a good day.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, Nick in alexis Wold. Whereas property, certainly, the way
that technology evolves on farm is amazing. Would you say
the days of being a decent farming operator without a
cell f home in your pocket, those days are gone?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Be close to it? Yeah, it's you can it doesn't.
I guess they're all tools and none of them make
you good farmers, but using them can help to make
you a better farmer.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, well, embracing technology. I suppose there will always be
a place for a notebook. Granted I can see Breceeed
rolling his eyes to be right now, but at the
same time, books on the phone now, yeah, well that's it.
Well that you go for a lot of people, that's
the way it's all evolved. And they got everybody in there,
they're working on teams or whatever, and it's just the
evolution of farming, I suppose from technology.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And I guess we're seeing things like hold and the
other animal apps like that now where we've initially we thought,
oh they're a dairy thing, but them out the getting
up take, the uptake with beef industry is huge now,
so it's gonna be really interesting to see where that goes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Shame we can't deal with absolutely now the Southern Farmer Council.
How would you sum up the year from your position
from How would you sum up the year from your perspective?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Oh, it's gopped on pretty good. We've got some good
new people in it as well. And yeah that's going
to come with Ofen George. My involvement with it, I've
only been in it just over a year probably I'm
just still finding my feet to a certain extent. But
you have been doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
We'll let you carry on, mate. Always appreciate your time
on the muster and hopefully you get a bit of
sunshine before Christmas time, and always appreciate your chat.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That ideal thinks Indy.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Robert Young and the Beef and lamb Sluts, So that
Farming for Profit Field Day next week is happening in
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go to beef lamenz dot com slash events to register.
Logan Savry of the Southern Tribune's up next, Oh just
(34:21):
for one day. Welcome back to the muster. Logan Savery
out of the South and Tribune joins us this afternoon.
Did they save? How are you?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Good?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Andy all good with me?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, but the Tribune, we've just about gone through another year.
Everything looks as U has been pretty busy, it is.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
He has been a bit going on around the place,
both on the sporting front and obviously and other matters
as well. So yeah, look we're just about to put
another another year to bed. But yeah, it's been a
few weeks ago as I thought, Oh, I thinks are
sort of winding down sporting wise, but there's still have
been a bit going on.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It was a bit going on, and straight off the
calf we've got Jacob Duffy getting his made in five
and only his second Test match as well against the
West Indies and christ Church and this is just one
for the good guys.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Absolutely, Look, it is a great story and it's a
great story of persistence. You know, twenty twelve, made his
debut as a seventeen year old for the Vaults, bad
all the way for a long time. Obviously got a
bit of taste of international cricket in the white ball format.
But I think even he is himself confessed he thought
(35:29):
that maybe the Test call up may elude him. You know,
he sort of sat aside behind Bolt and see how
the Wagoner and the likes for a long time got
that Test in Zimbabwe in August, got a Test match.
There was a lot of sort of thought, well, you know,
maybe will he be a one Test sort of wondering.
(35:50):
You know there's guys like a Rourck in that around.
Played really well in that white ball series against West Indies.
Obviously still a few injuries are I want the bowling
the front, but really deserved a spot in this first
Test against the West Indies and then delivered on the job.
You start getting that five work at a hole and
I believe the first and only self under the get
(36:14):
of test berg and credit.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, no, Alabasta, is there anything anyone like that?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
So Jackie Alabasta. His best bowling figures was a full
firm Test cricket back in nineteen fifty eight eight of
all things. So I looked that up and if someone
wants to correct me wrong, but I can't find anyone.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Else a man of your knowledge, save I'd say you're
on the money there. But look, let you say he
debuted back in twenty twelve, he played for the Vaults
in that final Indoneda and since then he's just plugged
and plugged away and plugged away. And it was all
a bit perseverance. But it also brings into the equation
for me, did Tim Salvey he went down on his
(36:55):
own terms? But is it a good thing for New
Zealand cracket to do that? When you got these young
guys coming through, you've got a wonder sometimes.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, well Tim Solve, he certainly wasn't his best and
late in my piece, and you could you could argue
now that a guy like a Jacob Duffy, you know,
I have got an eye patch on paying himself.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
But it's relevant as well. It's a good conversation they
need to have.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Absolutely, I'm probably deserved. I mean, towards the end of
Tim South's career he was put a bowling, you know,
late one twenties, still swinging the ball, a little bit,
but it wasn't that effective. What's been really impressive with
what Jacob's done is he's increased his speed over recent
years but still how to swing and that's what's made
(37:40):
him such an effective player. Now, you know, he's consistently
around that late one thirties mark, and also in that
white ball series was tipping over one one forty a
bit as well, and as I said, still swinging it.
So yeah, potentially you could argue that someone like him
deserved to go earlier. That's not taking anything away from
what's how he'd done in his career, but sometimes, yeah,
(38:03):
you've got to be willing to make some tough calls
late in people's careers, don't you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Now. The Rugby World Cup draw came out last night.
This is peculiarly you we're two years out from the event,
but it's already done and dusted, the ul black straw.
It's a tough one, let's be honest. If they want
to win the Rugby World Cup twenty twenty seven, Australia, okay,
Hong Kong and Chile put a line through them, but
the Jasies were going to have to beat But then
it's a possible showdown with the spring Boks. Then England
(38:28):
comes into the equation as well.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, well, that's right. It was a weird thing to
sort of stumble across last night, this Rugby World Cup draw,
and I wasn't actually a weird that it was coming on,
and it was a bit of weird television to watch
for that, it was interesting In the same point, I think
the initial wondress was that we drew the same pool
as Australia and that potentially sets up a World Cup
(38:53):
opener against Australia, which will add some interest. But then yeah,
as things dug a bit deeper in realize that we're
on track for a potential quarterfinal against South Africa. Look,
we're two years away, but if if the World Cup
has played tomorrow and it feels like South Africa at
the moment is as a bit of a length of
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Australia on us in terms of where they're at. So
that's going to you know, potentially set up a really
tough assignment then, And even as you mentioned England, I
think probably potentially South Africa and England are the two
best teams in the world at the moment, although France
may even come into that picture as well. So I
suppose that people will say that if we're gonna win
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the World Cup, you have to beat South Africa at
some stage potentially, so we'll have a crack in this
in the quarterfinal.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Potentially you've got three big games to win. The agument
goes of Australia. Though there's a few rugy league players
in limbo at the moment because our three sixty hasn't
got on the ground mark. Nowa Contino was is coming
back over to rugby union. That guy has been he's
been superb at ragged league, but he's just as good
as at union. Imagine if a few of these guys,
like see a Zach Lomax or who we ever actually
(40:06):
came into the Wallabies. He's a big, robust guy. Perhaps
check him in the inside centers at first five and
that could be the silver bullet the wallerbes need to
ignite that backline.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I think you make a really good point in your andy.
I think they'll be there'll be a better team in
two years time. They probably they need to find said
on the first five so they can find a first five.
But as you said, I wouldn't surprise me, you know,
I Zach Lomax ends up popping up in the next
World Cup. You know they've already they've actually already got
a bit an attack out wide. They seem a fizzle
(40:42):
towards the end of the year that that Lions series
may be caught up on them a bit towards the
back end of the year when they went over to
the to the UK. But yeah, I think you're right
that they won't be a push overcome that pool game,
so that you know that could potentially change the whole
thing as well.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Absolutely good on your say. I've always appreciate your time
and keep up the great work with the South and Tribune.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Good Man, I cheers Andy, laugh out loud.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
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Speaker 9 (42:10):
Yeah, just a million plis out in en today and
we probably saw a bit of a correction at the price,
especially at must today. But I'll starting with the spring lambs.
The best of spring lambs are two forty three fifty good,
very good spring lambs. I need for two hundred dollars
in the lasted his lambs just by giving Hoggins three
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fifty to three seventy and three thirty to three forty
for the second cut of Hoggins. Hoggers have cut their
teeth any day, so.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
Just hurry around.
Speaker 9 (42:39):
It's for one thirty one forty into the Abuton Mutton section.
We did sir correction there today the best of US
two hundred and two ten.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Manyums anywhere, it's.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
From one sixty five to one seventy seventy five, and
the liner of the US around it's for a one
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at the end a couple of have to use the lambs,
and there's a very nice line making one, three, nine
all counted, and the poorer line of these is eight,
making one twenty all counted. And then that wraps up
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in the
Speaker 1 (43:12):
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The weather of this afternoon showers of breezy westerlyes in seventeen.
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Northern South And thirteen point four, Riverton fourteen t and
Our fourteen point six, Winton thirteen point three and Woodman's
thirteen point one. David Stevens, dear farmer based at Netherdale
(01:52):
in Balfer. Expect David Goes to explain in a bit
of context about what's happening for velvet situation at the moment,
especially regarding career, North, South Korea and China where this
product goes to. Joseph Mooney in Beaver, Southland's on the
program Jordi Yed Farming at the River Era of the South.
(02:12):
We have a ketchup see how things are going on
Jordie's farming operations. Robert Young and the Beef and Lamb
Slut joins us for a Thursday. Then Logan Savory out
of the South and Tribune talks about the rise of
Jacob Duffy, resulting in his five for yesterday. As we
look at the cricket as well the book Keywingsle they
are the black Caps. The lead now is getting up.
(02:33):
Where are we one hundred and sixty runs roundabout. It's
just over there at the moment, getting towards lunch on
the first day, so they're not looking too bad. Tegle
Morrison as well out of PGG Rights and gives us
a stock stale report out of Charlton. Then we start
the hour with David Stevens. This is the Muster until
two o'clock. Thanks to Penstenis, we're away to Neverdale at
(03:06):
Balfer this afternoon. Catching up with David Stevens of course
has sign that you're tuned. If he was a wrestler
back in the day with the w W Weaver would
have been a little bit of acadeck. A good afternoon, David.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Good afternoon, Andy. Yes, I might have to sneak over
doses to go and watch them actually now out there.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
At Balfer on the Farm of course at nether Dale Health,
things been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, we've just well we've just taken a lot of
silid job actually, so we've had a reasonable growth things,
probably a wee bit slower than in other years, but
I know we're taking you along and we don't have
a lot of deer here now, so all the deer
farmers out there that are doing valving will be into
(03:49):
the two year olds involving in them at the moment,
so and also probably trying to move a bit of
velvet too, which has been but we've been of a
challenge this year. That's been I think buyers are picking
it up, but a lot of them haven't put a
price on it yet and they've sort of given them
(04:11):
a deposit to just pick it up. So it's been
a little bit of a challenge for the dear farmers
that have major velvet producers.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, the velveting situation, it's not a flash onun Edie
Dennis was talking about it on Monday's show, but certainly
with South Korea and China being the two markets and
almost dictating what's happening. It hasn't been a very good situation.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
No, but that's I mean, we've been we've had some
good years actually, Andy, and that's when China's started buying direct.
I know, they do re export into Korea after they
process because obviously their processing is a lot cheaper than
what we can do it. But with China direct purchase
(05:00):
from here, it certainly helped the market over the probably
the last six d eight years. So you know, we've
done well with that. And of course what's happened is
that the velvet heardy has grown, so we've gone from
what we used to talk about back in my day.
In wayback four hundred ton was sort of the max
(05:21):
of what we could produce and actually keep a reasonable price,
and now we're looking at a thousand ton, so you know,
things have grown a lot, and in the market's grown also,
so you know, we've been doing reasonably well. But last
year things pulled back a bit. Obviously COVID and China
(05:44):
hasn't helped this sort of a lag there with products
sort of sitting in the market, so they're in a
position where typical commodity, you know, the strength of you know,
the power should say has shifted from the producer to
the to the market those in the marketplace, so it's
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only affected things just out there at the moment. They're
probably talking around about that. For the top end, which
is the traditional velvet, around about the eighty dollars, and
there's probably not a lot of that in the market really,
it's probably only about fifteen percent, and then you're looking
at probably around the fifty to sixty might even be
(06:27):
slightly lower than that. For the non traditional say, you
know that big heavy, rough stuff, you are not paying
a lot for it. So but to be fair, you know,
we've always realized that the marketplace there's always wanted that
tidy velvet. It's much easier to process. The big rough
stuff's hard to process and it's a bit of a challenge.
(06:50):
So you know, the industry's changed a lot over those years.
We've ended up with a lot of super a velvet,
which is the big heavy stuff in the market now,
and it's you know, we're sort of paying the price
for it now. So I would imagine most people will
be cutting quite early this year, cutting the velvet early,
and you know, in the next couple of years, I
(07:12):
can see the product volumes actually reducing because people will
be getting rid of the big rough stags, the ones
who grow the big rough heads, and I'll probably send
them to the processor and then cut early on their
good velvet. So I would imagine the volume for the
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next couple of years will drop back, and we may
even see it drop back to about eight hundred ton.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That sounds like one of the industries that are still
being affected by COVID, given that was five and a
half nearly five and three quarter years ago.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, it hungover in China though for some time after
everybody else, So you know, it's probably not the you know,
it's just part of what's happened really to the velvet price.
It's only part of it. I think the volume has
just got out of kilter with the market and we
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need to either drop back or grow that market. So
that's had quite a huge effect really on the prices
this year.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So how long do you see it, David, until supply
demand meets equal base.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I think if we start dropping back, you know, we
could be a couple of years out. I think depends
this year. It's going to be very interesting just to
see where the volume ends up. Just a total volume
with those changes. I know there's a number of people
that actually have sent old next day stags to the
(08:40):
works that are rougher. I think I made a comment
to you back sort of early winter that if I
was if I was still velving large numbers, I would
probably go through and color out all those big old
stags with the rougher heads. And I mean stage you know,
(09:01):
the schedule was very good, you get space. I don't
think that's the case now. It's space is tightened right up.
So it could be a challenge because really with those
older stags, you've got a situation unless they're booked in it.
You know, the rut comes around and you can't actually
shift them. So that'll be a bit of a challenge
as well. But it'll depend a but on just It'll
(09:23):
be interesting this year just to see what the volume
is at the end of the year, and I would
think a couple of years out anyhow, I.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Suppose I'm positive is the fake the Venison schedules remaining
pretty buoyant.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yes, yeah, no, it is, And yeah, I think and
also that elk market into the States, it's very good
and it looks as though it's going to hold up
right through sort of around that eleven dollars the case.
So that's pretty good going. It's a good market and
we need to look after it. But no, it's been
(09:59):
interesting in the sense that there's been a fair bit
of grumbling take place in the process of this year
with the changes of the grading system. Looking at the
grading myself, personally, I think it's correct, but I think
the whole process is there hasn't been great.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Really, if you're going to look at changing the grades
you need to take that needs to take place really
in May so people are actually aware of things, where
the changes are and where things are going. So it
wasn't the process wasn't great. Personally, I think that it
was hijacked a bit by some of the buyers. I
(10:44):
wouldn't blame DINS for the outcome. I think that they
were hijacked a bit on the way through. And I
think it's a lesson to be learned that the processes
need to work with the producers in any changes and
it's something that we need to do in the future. Actually,
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so I think the case of sitting down really DINS
is really only a facilitator and the producers and the
buyer should actually be making those decisions together if they're
changing the grades, So that's something we need to look
at really in the future.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Just finally, the New Zealand Velvet Awards. They're happening December
of the eleventh at Scott Park. This is always a
great time.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yes, n no, no. This is the forty third Velvet
and hard Antler Awards. So it's a good Christmas do really,
I suppose for anybody who wants to come along. We've
got a guest speaker this year, Amy Scott, and I
didn't know much about her, but they say she's very good.
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I think she brings along and tells me on a
bier that energy, honesty and zero fluff. I'm not quite
sure subject subjects are less friction, more fun, so it
could be an interesting night. So I'm not quite sure
whether she's from Central Central to Targo originally, but it
says that she's spent some time in wool sheds in
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Central Targo, so that could lead to anything, couldn't it really?
But no, it's a good night and if anybody's wanting tickets,
it's probably deer farmers are probably the easiest way to
get a ticket actually is to ring two seven three, four, seven,
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eight nine, fourth eight nine two six and get older,
Jane if you want to get a ticket, but also
just give me a l I can sort that out
for them. The awards dinners on the Thursday, I think
it's the eleventh. Yeah, and it starts at about five
o'clock in the evening, so you know it's it'll be
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a good night out.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Good only you, David. We always appreciate your time on
the Muster. You Lin and the family enjoy the festive
season and we'll catch up with you next time. All
the best for the awards next week as well.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Oh thanks Eddie, and I'd just like to wish you
a merry Christmas and you and the family have a
bit of time off and everybody out there just enjoy yourself.
I know it's a very busy time of the year
and sometimes it's hard to sort of relax, but no,
enjoy Christmas and having New Year. To everybody.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
David Stevens, dear farminga Baltha, you're listening to the Muster.
Next we'll speak to our local MP, of course, Joseph Mooney,
MP for Southlands South and the MP Joseph Mooney joins
us once again on the muster. Good afternoon, Joseph. How
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are you?
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Yeah, very good. I've finished my i rather long week
in Parliament. It's been a few days, three days precise,
and very glad to be back in the south. It's then,
I've got to say it's been a lot easier to
get back south. And it was to get north on Sunday.
I had up people to drive from Queens down to
christ Hitch and then catch a sixteen flight out of
the Crosshatch early in it's morning to be there in
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time to share my buddy.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
There's been a lot of issues of regional New Zealand
at the moment trying to get flights linking up. Yesterday,
for example, my wife was trying to get north and
she had a hell of a job regionally import working
at the.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Moment, because yeah, they bumped me to a flight the
next evening, and it was after I was supposed to
be cheering a committee for a full dawn on Monday,
so that wasn't going to work. And then for the
other people who are being bumped a Friday, so yeah,
it was it was rather challenging for anyone to get anyway,
but I managed to manage to get the laugh rental
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car out of Queen's sown.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Apparently it brings out the wider conversation like I alluded
to before though, Joseph around here New Zealand and the
fact that as New Zealand rural is rural New Zealand
as such being serviced by our airline as it should be.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah, look, there's there's some real connectivity issues going on
for regional New Zealand. For sure. It's something I've raised
repeated within his yelland and I know I certainly aware
of it, and I know the CEO has made some
positive noises about it. But it is an issue for
us without.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Question scrutiny week. This sounds as though everything just goes on,
nothing's off the table. I mean, people getting called to
jerk and all sorts of stuff. It's just made for
some really interesting viewing.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, look, I've I'm happy to say, well from my perspective,
I cheer the Social Student Community Slick Committee, which is
we had this weird the largest number of injutries to
review by a long margin. We've got twenty six of
them in about a third of the gover's budget that
we're trying to oversee how the aid and season partners
are a young and I say trying to see because
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you know, do the best we can in the time available.
But we have had some interesting times in the past.
But I've got to say this this year was I
thought of made it clear that questions through the chair
and I wanted people to respipt from givenment chance asked
the questions as long as I did that, and it
seemed to work really well, so we didn't have some
of the schernigans that went on other committees, which you know,
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I can't say it's all Mabe. Certainly I was pleased
with the way my committee went.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Perhaps it's a reflection on the way you go about
your business, Joseph. You can't understand yourself here.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I like to say a south some way, don't try
and don't try and you know, shout too much. But
I am I am happy to say that it went
pretty well. I think everyone's pretty respectful. Everyone got a
chance to ask the questions, and yeah, scritiny we went
reasoningly well. We didn't certainly didn't have a shirnings like
I said in other committees.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
So justin a nuts shall explain what scrutiny week is
all about, so.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
It's an opportunity to look at the year and review,
so it's the last financial year twenty twenty four to
twenty twenty five, and to analyze how agencies and departments
have performed against you know, the metrics in terms of
what they said they were going to do, what had
been set in place in terms of their performance measures,
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and whether they've had the adequate financial controls in place.
And so it's an opportunity to basically get a performance
check up and members of Parliament to scrutinize, ask questions
of them and and of ministers. The primary focus is
on whether the agencies and departments have been performing as
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we'd accept them to.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So why does it disintegrate into just a shouting match
like it has this.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Week because the majority of the time is actually spent
scrutinizing officials, but there can be of short segments where
ministers come in, and when the ministers come in, the
reporters come in, and when the reporters come in, people
are looking to perform for the reporters to try and
get some attention in the media. So that's when you
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see that kind of behavior.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So from your perspective the parliamentary week sover you beckon
the electorate, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
It is yep. I've finished my journies in Parliament for
this week and yeah, beacon electric for the well most
of it. Have to be up in Auckland Saturday for
a little bit and be back down Apart from that, Yeah,
I'll be in the region.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So what's happening in Auckland on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
For example, there's a conference on blockchain and they've decided
their wisdom to nominate me for an award because I've
been trying to get a bit of more awareness amongst
other members of Parliament and officials about blockchain because it's
becoming quite a big technology around the world in terms
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of how it's used for a variety of different purposes.
And so I've arranged a few conferences in in Parliament
for an option to raise a witness and they've decided
to nominate me for an award from my well if
it's to assist. So it's a good way to get
me to come on to the event.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I guess oh, our congratulations. That's two major wins this
s weeek. Your committee didn't have yelling matches and you've
got an awards there. Remind you go to in Auckland
as well.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yeah, i'dlad you take the wins where you can.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So how long until the parliamentary year wraps up?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Our last sitting day is the eighteenth, so we've got
quite a bit of work to go yet. I've got
the Resource Management Act replacement, first reading of that coming
before the end of the year, so I'm anticipating we're
going to be pretty flat out leading up to the end.
But yeah, the eighteenth of the last day in parliament.
It won't be the last day working, but it will
be the last day in parliament.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
The Ari May situation is going to be interesting too,
given all the talk around these amalgamations of councilors, and
it's certainly got the tongues wagging Joseph as to what's
going to happen and how it happens.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Yeah, absolutely, it's going to be probably notic I think
can change in thirty odd years, and we're aiming to
significantly symplify the entire process and put the focus more
back on you know, property rights and you know, make
sure we're actually you know, when we're doing things. It's
going to have improve environmental bottom lines rather than just
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tying people up the knots, which is what's going to
happen unfortunately a lot of cases for a long time.
And you know, importantly that's also going to reduce the
cost and complexity for local government and you know, and
it will change some of the way the local government operates.
So that's that's neverly. You know. It means that we
need to rethink the way regional councils work and that's
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going to lead to the attensions of all conversations which
has already started in the South and around you know,
the way the local government operates.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Good on you, Joseph. Always appreciate your time on the Master.
Will chat a game before the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Good in any I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Of Mooney MP for Southland. You're listening to the muster.
Jordi Yed is up next farming in the River Era
of the South, which is Riverton. We're away to the
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River Era of the South this afternoon. Of course it's Riverton.
We're catching up with Jordiy Jordi. Good afternoon. The music
today is David Bewie And you just threw off me,
You just threw at me. Sorry, off the top of
your head. Labyrinth from back in nineteen eighty six. There's
a good movie.
Speaker 7 (21:38):
Yeah know, it was a good movie. Yet I haven't
actually watched it probably for forty years, thirty years, thirty years.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, the problem is when you go and watch movies
from yuse to year and you've got all these high
expectations and unfortunately time has evolved.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Yeah, I know, times evolved, but you know, probably the
Hobbit from the Lord of the Rings. I haven't watched
any of them, and you know, that was probably the
first of those types of things.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
How's everything over at the River era of the South?
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah, no, it took on pretty well, really did that
in terrain sort every weekend or every once a week,
but you know, it's everything to doing pretty well. We're
about to do weaning next week, so you know, I
can't believe that the schedule's held around that still e
eleven dollars and yeah, so get into it.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Ye've been pretty cynical about the way things have unfolded,
especially with the Alliance group and that what was it
six weeks ago we got the news and we had
there were six weeks today since the winds occurred and
everything just went pretty quiet, understandably so. But then since
then everybody has spoken to who's been really grumpy. They're
just looking at the situation saying, right, we've got this
in front of us, let's just get on with it.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, I suppose it's been done and dusted. You can't
know use looking back. You just got to move on
and go with it. What the decision there has been made.
So we've just got to be happy with whether. You know,
I didn't disagree. I disagreed with it, but that was
my call because you know, I hadn't supplied lines of
lamb for their reasons, and I didn't feel as though
that they've really alter anythink of that. Nothing's changed. So
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I suppose time will tell to see what happens off
this new input, and we'll see what happens. I mean,
we still supply all our cows and beasts, but yeah,
I suppose time will tell.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I think the biggest issue going forward is going to
be over capacity. And how do they get rationalization within
the industry. How do you start it?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
Oh, yeah, there's massive over capacity in this industry. Like
you know, we're part of a Hoggit group and we're
just sort of you know, there's probably a bit of
capacity to be still gained in the industry with people
lambing their hoggits, but I don't really see any sheep.
Flocks are probably still only going to diminish, you know,
like those thirty odd to thirty two conversions in Canterbury.
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You know, they will be cropping farms, but there'll be
still a big portion of them, will still have some
sort of sheep operation involved with them, but they'll be
all wiped off.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Like you talked about, Jordi. The fact that we got
this ten dollars at the moment or between ten and
eleven goodness almost around eleven as well, it's pretty buoyant
for the re meat sector.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
It is really boyant. You know, we're into our fifth
season of having a dairy farm, and I think this
is the first time nearly since of those five years
that the lamb's going to be exceeding the milk solid price.
So you know, after it's still a passionate she can
beef farmer's sort of jumping with joy inside myself will
eabit because you know that's what I've been wanting really,
but I just hope that we can stick it up there.
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I know that, you know, there's a lot of positive
news out there that will will stay around. But you know,
we are seeing a bit of downward slide on the
dairy side, but that's probably a supply and demand thing
that supplies sort of saturated really. But you know, maybe
with the lamb it's the opposite way around, is that
your suppliers really waved under demand.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You've more or less got your bets a dollar each
way around the situation that you can't really lose given
that dairy is still at nine nine dollars fifty is
and break even as a midway point. Sorry for Frontierra, well, I.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Fixed halfair milk at nine ninety, so that's you know,
that's already done and us it's sort of something that
Frontier off and I got caught out the way a
wee bit last year. But this year I thought, well,
they're not going to anything around that ten dollars. I'll
take it, and by the look of it that I
might hopefully it might be on the winning side this year.
But no, I've got that half as supplies hopped in
at nine ninety, So yeah, I would, you know, still
hope that the average is going to really still have
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a good nine in it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Do you have many people who have taken up that
forward option?
Speaker 7 (25:19):
No, no, No, I was just I'm just amazed the
last six months barely they've been really undertaken, and I
was just a surprise. They reckoned that the earlier ten
ones were taken up a fair bit, and that may
be why. But I think the dairy industry was just
bullish that was going to be you know, another ten
to eleven dollars, and you know, I think that's what
they want or need. But I suppose time will tell.
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But quite a few dairy farmers have got the thousand
situations where there high cost operations now for this halter
and everything. So yeah, I suppose they're hopeful that it
would have been ten. But I suppose we've just got
to hope that it still doesn't drop too much more
than what it is now.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And of course, fon Terra sawing your commercial arm, there's
a nice week of chink and checking the pipeline as well.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Yeah, that might be sort of a benefit to head
it up to the ten dollars. We'll see, but yeah,
this sort of probably were fortunate that I shed up
to a halfway about four years ago, so that was
quite good. So we've had a sort of good benefit
of that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
So what's your reign tally been like over the past
couple of months.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
It was we're running at about we've had about thirteen
fourteen hundred for the year so far, but November ended
up about ninety. But that was on the back of
having sort of thirty on the thirtieth. So November was
really pretty dry. You know, there was only about four
days of actual rain and each time it came it
was over an inch. So yeah, I don't mind that.
That's quite the like turning the irrigator on.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yes, certainly, going to just keep things propped up nicely. Hey,
just before we wrap up as well. I mean we're
two years out from the Raby World Cup. For Pete's sake,
they're doing a draw early. But nonetheless this is going
to be fascinating. So the All Black So I don't
know if you caught up on this. Australia, Hong Kong
and Chili are in there in their pool. So then
against Australia and Perth sounds like it will be the
opening World Cup twenty twenty seven. But if we win
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that pool. We've got the spring box in this in
the quarters and England's on our side of the drawer
as well. I mean it's two years out. There's a
long way to try and predict what's going on, but
certainly the intrigue starts towards the next rugby cycle halfway
through it and get into the guts of it.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yeah, I'm just amazed. I'm spitting taxwe but that. You know,
it's not really that they drilled it. So it's going
to be Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere team in
the final. You know, all these Southern Hemisphere teams are
all going to strike one another before the end, and
you know that's it. Just laughs to me, what world
rugby are doing? You know, I watched a bit of
that sare for an Irish game. It wasn't too bad,
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but you know they're going to have to really majorsly
do some olderation to the rules. Nobody's going to be
watching this game. It's just just getting out of it
beyond a joke.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Well, there was one of those non Hemisphere games, the
All Black School to try and it was pulled back
about six phases. Now I went and googled it and
said it's only two phases for a knock on, and
so yeah, I don't know what's going on there, just yeah,
you know, to the time the conversional was taken, that
was it. But yeah, you're right, they go back halfway
now and recall it up again.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Let's go and blame Wayne Barnes. We've got to have
a scapegoat somewhere. Jeordie yid Hey, thanks very much for
your time on the Muster this afternoon and throughout the year,
and you enjoy the holiday season. We'll catch you in
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
That goods colder Andy. Hopefully we don't have as much
woe next year.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Jordi reed at the River of the South, which is
beautiful Riverton. You're listening to the Muster before the end
of the year. A Logan Severry out of the Southern Tribune.
But up next and the Beef and Lamb Slot Robert Young.
Speaker 8 (28:39):
The Muster Events Diary brought to you by Beef and
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Speaker 1 (28:49):
Robert Young is part of the Beef and Lambs Southern
Farmer Council and joins us this afternoon on the muster, Robert, how.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Are you good?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Good? Anon?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
How's everything been on the ranch over the last week
while you've got through October and November.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Ok Yeah, it's like it hasn't been the most joyful spring,
but it's been better than last year. And I guess
for us, we went into eleven with good covers, so
it meant that while we ended up dropping probably a
bit on cover from where we wanted to be, we
could still feed the stock, okay. And we've well air system.
We've got a few, a bit of trading stock and
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a bit of grazing in the system. So it gives
us the opportunity to pull a few springs when we
need to. And so we did things like shut up
by illigilator and stuff like that so that we could
so that we could feed stock. And so everything's looking okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Just for the uninitiated, Roberts, just tell people about your
farming operation.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Right, we're farming just out a bookrel We do a
combin that we've got a U flock. We also breed
breeding us and then we also do trading stock. We
stare lambs on three or four thousand a year probably,
and then we also do some trading cat all buying
twos and selling them November through January fIF three, and
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we create a few Deercales Winter great Deweycals and a
few made of mahappers, which is how it happened.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, it sounds like a little bit happening, but everything
that's happening as well sounds as though it's in the
right price range at the moment.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah, it is nice. We're killing beef kettle at the moment.
And of course I've never killed three thousand dollars kettle before.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
How have you on the Hawks when you get in
three k though cheapers.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Three twenty eight the last lot, Yeah, and that was
three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You'd almost use the word unprecedented.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I'd say it would be. Yeah, hopefully it's not a
one off, but it's nice at the moment.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah. Just speaking to Jordye before and he was saying
the same thing. And depending on who you speak to,
the Lambs schedule looking pretty buoyant for the season.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah. Well, regardless what's happened with Alliance, we've still got
an extra killing capacity. So I guess they're going to
be hunting for lambs, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And that's great if you're if you're a if you're
trading lambs, if you're growing those lambs out, and heaven
knows after the spring, we've had two springs in a
row where you consider the consider them to be duds,
and the lambing percentage hasn't been as people want her.
But at the same time, there's certain things that you
can enjoy about the sector.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah. Well, I always say you don't get good production
in good prices in the same year. So we're doing that.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
How did your lambing end out? By the way, tailing
and the likes get through? Okay, we got through.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Ok it came in very similar to last year. We
were one hundred and thirty five or something like that.
Probably a little bit disappointed, but it was okay. Scanning
was back and yeah it will do.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah will Let's be honest. You always want more at tailing, right, Oh, absolutely,
just the nature of the game. Now you're part of
the Beef and Lambs Southern Farmer Council. Everything going pretty
good that side of things.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Yeah, it's all kicking along. There's a little bit happening.
I think next week we've got a funding for profit
session over Odapiri on Tuesday. I think we're looking at
technology on farm and help integrated onto the farmer, specifically
looking at resolution and farm like Q, how they can
be integrated and what other ideas can be used. And
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there a farm true as well, So it would be
a good day.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Yeah, Nick in alexis Wold. Whereas property, certainly, the way
that technology evolves on farm is amazing. Would you say
the days of being a decent farming operator without a
cell f home in your pocket, those days are gone?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Be close to it? Yeah, it's you can it doesn't.
I guess they're all tools and none of them make
you good farmers, but using them can help to make
you a better farmer.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, well, embracing technology. I suppose there will always be
a place for a notebook. Granted I can see Breceeed
rolling his eyes to be right now, but at the
same time, books on the phone now, yeah, well that's it.
Well that you go for a lot of people, that's
the way it's all evolved. And they got everybody in there,
they're working on teams or whatever, and it's just the
evolution of farming, I suppose from technology.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
And I guess we're seeing things like hold and the
other animal apps like that now where we've initially we thought,
oh they're a dairy thing, but them out the getting
up take, the uptake with beef industry is huge now,
so it's gonna be really interesting to see where that goes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Shame we can't deal with absolutely now the Southern Farmer Council.
How would you sum up the year from your position
from How would you sum up the year from your perspective?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Oh, it's gopped on pretty good. We've got some good
new people in it as well. And yeah that's going
to come with Ofen George. My involvement with it, I've
only been in it just over a year probably I'm
just still finding my feet to a certain extent. But
you have been doing it.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
We'll let you carry on, mate. Always appreciate your time
on the muster and hopefully you get a bit of
sunshine before Christmas time, and always appreciate your chat.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
That ideal thinks Indy.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Robert Young and the Beef and lamb Sluts, So that
Farming for Profit Field Day next week is happening in
beer Hill Farming Nick and leads us Nick in the
Lexus one where property twenty nine to twenty nine Oda
Perrie Maniville Road next Tuesday, starting at one o'clock. So
go to beef lamenz dot com slash events to register.
Logan Savry of the Southern Tribune's up next, Oh just
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for one day. Welcome back to the muster. Logan Savery
out of the South and Tribune joins us this afternoon.
Did they save? How are you?
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Good?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Andy all good with me?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, but the Tribune, we've just about gone through another year.
Everything looks as U has been pretty busy, it is.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
He has been a bit going on around the place,
both on the sporting front and obviously and other matters
as well. So yeah, look we're just about to put
another another year to bed. But yeah, it's been a
few weeks ago as I thought, Oh, I thinks are
sort of winding down sporting wise, but there's still have
been a bit going on.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It was a bit going on, and straight off the
calf we've got Jacob Duffy getting his made in five
and only his second Test match as well against the
West Indies and christ Church and this is just one
for the good guys.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Absolutely, Look, it is a great story and it's a
great story of persistence. You know, twenty twelve, made his
debut as a seventeen year old for the Vaults, bad
all the way for a long time. Obviously got a
bit of taste of international cricket in the white ball format.
But I think even he is himself confessed he thought
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that maybe the Test call up may elude him. You know,
he sort of sat aside behind Bolt and see how
the Wagoner and the likes for a long time got
that Test in Zimbabwe in August, got a Test match.
There was a lot of sort of thought, well, you know,
maybe will he be a one Test sort of wondering.
(35:50):
You know there's guys like a Rourck in that around.
Played really well in that white ball series against West Indies.
Obviously still a few injuries are I want the bowling
the front, but really deserved a spot in this first
Test against the West Indies and then delivered on the job.
You start getting that five work at a hole and
I believe the first and only self under the get
(36:14):
of test berg and credit.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, no, Alabasta, is there anything anyone like that?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
So Jackie Alabasta. His best bowling figures was a full
firm Test cricket back in nineteen fifty eight eight of
all things. So I looked that up and if someone
wants to correct me wrong, but I can't find anyone.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Else a man of your knowledge, save I'd say you're
on the money there. But look, let you say he
debuted back in twenty twelve, he played for the Vaults
in that final Indoneda and since then he's just plugged
and plugged away and plugged away. And it was all
a bit perseverance. But it also brings into the equation
for me, did Tim Salvey he went down on his
(36:55):
own terms? But is it a good thing for New
Zealand cracket to do that? When you got these young
guys coming through, you've got a wonder sometimes.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, well Tim Solve, he certainly wasn't his best and
late in my piece, and you could you could argue
now that a guy like a Jacob Duffy, you know,
I have got an eye patch on paying himself.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
But it's relevant as well. It's a good conversation they
need to have.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Absolutely, I'm probably deserved. I mean, towards the end of
Tim South's career he was put a bowling, you know,
late one twenties, still swinging the ball, a little bit,
but it wasn't that effective. What's been really impressive with
what Jacob's done is he's increased his speed over recent
years but still how to swing and that's what's made
(37:40):
him such an effective player. Now, you know, he's consistently
around that late one thirties mark, and also in that
white ball series was tipping over one one forty a
bit as well, and as I said, still swinging it.
So yeah, potentially you could argue that someone like him
deserved to go earlier. That's not taking anything away from
what's how he'd done in his career, but sometimes, yeah,
(38:03):
you've got to be willing to make some tough calls
late in people's careers, don't you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Now. The Rugby World Cup draw came out last night.
This is peculiarly you we're two years out from the event,
but it's already done and dusted, the ul black straw.
It's a tough one, let's be honest. If they want
to win the Rugby World Cup twenty twenty seven, Australia, okay,
Hong Kong and Chile put a line through them, but
the Jasies were going to have to beat But then
it's a possible showdown with the spring Boks. Then England
(38:28):
comes into the equation as well.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, well, that's right. It was a weird thing to
sort of stumble across last night, this Rugby World Cup draw,
and I wasn't actually a weird that it was coming on,
and it was a bit of weird television to watch
for that, it was interesting In the same point, I think
the initial wondress was that we drew the same pool
as Australia and that potentially sets up a World Cup
(38:53):
opener against Australia, which will add some interest. But then yeah,
as things dug a bit deeper in realize that we're
on track for a potential quarterfinal against South Africa. Look,
we're two years away, but if if the World Cup
has played tomorrow and it feels like South Africa at
the moment is as a bit of a length of
(39:14):
Australia on us in terms of where they're at. So
that's going to you know, potentially set up a really
tough assignment then, And even as you mentioned England, I
think probably potentially South Africa and England are the two
best teams in the world at the moment, although France
may even come into that picture as well. So I
suppose that people will say that if we're gonna win
(39:37):
the World Cup, you have to beat South Africa at
some stage potentially, so we'll have a crack in this
in the quarterfinal.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Potentially you've got three big games to win. The agument
goes of Australia. Though there's a few rugy league players
in limbo at the moment because our three sixty hasn't
got on the ground mark. Nowa Contino was is coming
back over to rugby union. That guy has been he's
been superb at ragged league, but he's just as good
as at union. Imagine if a few of these guys,
like see a Zach Lomax or who we ever actually
(40:06):
came into the Wallabies. He's a big, robust guy. Perhaps
check him in the inside centers at first five and
that could be the silver bullet the wallerbes need to
ignite that backline.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I think you make a really good point in your andy.
I think they'll be there'll be a better team in
two years time. They probably they need to find said
on the first five so they can find a first five.
But as you said, I wouldn't surprise me, you know,
I Zach Lomax ends up popping up in the next
World Cup. You know they've already they've actually already got
a bit an attack out wide. They seem a fizzle
(40:42):
towards the end of the year that that Lions series
may be caught up on them a bit towards the
back end of the year when they went over to
the to the UK. But yeah, I think you're right
that they won't be a push overcome that pool game,
so that you know that could potentially change the whole
thing as well.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Absolutely good on your say. I've always appreciate your time
and keep up the great work with the South and Tribune.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Good Man, I cheers Andy, laugh out loud.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
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Hey, well all right, too hypical there, And what did
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Stock sell ection Carol it Chelton sale Yard this morning
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how do we go afternoon, Andy?
Speaker 9 (42:10):
Yeah, just a million plis out in en today and
we probably saw a bit of a correction at the price,
especially at must today. But I'll starting with the spring lambs.
The best of spring lambs are two forty three fifty good,
very good spring lambs. I need for two hundred dollars
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(42:30):
fifty to three seventy and three thirty to three forty
for the second cut of Hoggins. Hoggers have cut their
teeth any day, so.
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Just hurry around.
Speaker 9 (42:39):
It's for one thirty one forty into the Abuton Mutton section.
We did sir correction there today the best of US
two hundred and two ten.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Manyums anywhere, it's.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
From one sixty five to one seventy seventy five, and
the liner of the US around it's for a one
twenty five months thirty even like I said, that correction,
at the end a couple of have to use the lambs,
and there's a very nice line making one, three, nine
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(43:10):
in the
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