December 4, 2025 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Phil Duncan, Andrew Cochrane, Michelle Watt, Tony Groves and Murray Cockburn.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Friday afternoon once again, so we're catching out with Nathan
Abernethy from Regional Ford Yaday, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, gooday, Andy. Friday's rolled around again and a pretty
warm one it is out there too, by Jingos. It's
certain certainly on the windy side, showing high twenties in
the vehicle as I was driving around. So yep, lovely,
but we were a rain probably wouldn't go on, Missie.
That is to keep things fresh. But look in the
showroom here or out of the wind. It's lovely and warm,
plenty happening here today and I'm on the used car lot.
(00:27):
We're just going through getting making sure everything's all all
cleaned and window cards and stuff done. We've had a
lot of new stock coming this last week and we'd
love to run through a couple with you, if that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We've just had in the last couple of days of
twenty sixteen, one owner local car Ford Mustang V eight
traveled twenty seven thousand k's that is wine red Ford
Mustang GT fively to V eight. You can't you still
can't beat that sound of that V eight. It's just
something that electric doesn't do, and not that we have
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an awful lot of follow tricks here anyway, but really
neat car as New Wine Red. It's got the black
sort of stripes on it and for fifty one to
nine to ninety, that is a very cool car and
a car that you've have a lot of fun this
summer as well as that. We've just had to go
out of twenty and seventeen Forward Escape, it's the trend
Forward Escape trends. It's the mid range one. It's got
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the roof racks, the eighteen inch alloy wheels, leather, the
bolsters on the seats. Traveled one hundred and ten thousand
k's not a huge mileage. Great cars, easy to hop
in and out of, great view. They've got reversing cameras
and GPS and all that sort of thing in them.
And for fifteen, nine hundred and ninety that's a great
vehicle for somebody as well. Four teams on deck and
there's plenty happening here today. We'd love to see you in. Otherwise,
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doors will be opened at half past nine in the
morning through it all twelve. But feel free to give
us a call anytime over the weekend, and don't forget
the team in the workshop with any of those last
minute things before the Christmas season comes around. We can
take care of those ward of fitnesses and services and
have you set to go? Check that caravan, check the boat,
make sure it's all set to go. But anyway, wishing
everybody a great weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Good on you Nath Chain next week.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Thanks Andy, good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakonui,
brought to you by Peters Genetics.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
My name is Andy Muir. Welcome to Friday. As we
look outside, like Nathan said before, pretty warm last time
I checked about twenty five degrees and we'll look at
the weather surely and as well Phil Dunkle and weather
Watch gives us a rundown on the weather for the
next week. Music for a Friday just ninety dancy stuff.
This song here de rude Sandstorm needs no introduction.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny tear from
dot coj insad.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
This afternoon. This afternoon, that's been the thunderstorms of Veloper
with brisk north westerlies and twenty three Saturday cloudy of
breezy Westlease thirteen and twenty one.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Sunday shells of breezey nor Westerly is nine and.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Twenty four, Monday sunny and north westerly seven and twenty
and Tuesday cloudy of north Westleys forming twelve and twenty two.
So temperatures for Dougy, Omercow seventeen point one, Clinton thirteen
point nine, Harriet twelve point five, Northern south And fourteen
point three, Riverton fourteen point five, tn Our fifteen point one,
Titara fourteen point eight, Winton fourteen point three and Woodland's
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thirteen point three. Like I say, film don't go, weather
Watch gives us a rundown on the weather for the
next seven days. Shortly Andrew cockran from iny Vetzes on
the program. Michelle Watt joins us in the country Crossover.
Tony Groves of Halo Training talks about Halo Training.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
What it's about, Moy thinks is something.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You need to consider, especially regarding farming leadership. And Maray
Cobra and the Mainland Minerals is in studio at the
end of the hour and we can go and do
the draw for the five hundred dollars Prizzy card that
Mayhair Minerals has been running in conjunction with of course,
if you've entered up via the Muster on Hockey Facebook
page or the Hockanee Brickie page as well, stay listening
(04:09):
to see if your name is called up right, well,
carry on, We'll pull Duncan. This is the Muster until
two o'clock. Thanks to Peter Jenelicks, I'm starting to catch
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up with Phil Duncan from Where to Watch as we
do every Friday, well pretty much most Fridays anyway, because
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he's a very busy man. Full Duncan of we're the watch.
Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Why do you, sir?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How's everything been for you over the past couple of weeks?
Pretty hectic leading into Christmas?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, hectic, and the weather's been pretty exciting up here
in the North with all these big severe thunderstorms that
passed through this week. So it was a bit of fun.
And we've built this new lightning tracker with the met
Service and Transpower and we're launching it. Well, we were
hoping to launch it this month, but it looks like
it might be in the new year. And it was
like the first time that I got to test it
(05:27):
and it was very exciting. So ah, this is awesome.
I can't wait to have this in the public domain
and people to be able to use it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So what are we going to see down here over
the next seven days. It sounds like there's some rain
on the horizon, particularly on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, well, speaking of thunderstorms, actually there is some risk
of a thunderstorm this afternoon around parts of northern Southland.
You know, it's like about a thirty forty risk. But
we've got a few showers that are tracking through this
afternoon and so you never know, one might be a
little heavy, pretty mild today. That's another good thing. You know,
temperatures are up at the moment with that west to
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northwesterly winds westerly stays tomorrow, temperature drops just a little
bit because it swings a bit more west southwest today
it's west northwest, so a slight difference and a slight
drop in temperature. But on Sunday that's when the heat
from Australia moves in, and you know, our temperature at
the moment is forecast to be twenty five degrees. We're
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actually making some work at the moment. I'd love to
hear back any of your listeners that want to let
you know or let me know how you find our
temperatures and our forecast, because I think we underdo it
a little bit when we have a hot day, and
so we've got twenty five degrees as the high on Sunday,
but I think you know, twenty seven twenty eight is possible,
a couple of showers around, and then yeah, some rain
comes as some duck time. By the luks of it,
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here could be some showers around during the morning and
during the day, but nighttime has the higher chance. It's
not a huge amount, but maybe thirteen fifteen millimeters coming
through on Sunday night Monday morning, and then a bit
of a temperature drop next week, not much back to
the twenties again the lower time, and then you get
a cold change on Wednesday where the maximum is fifteen degrees.
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But generally speaking, apart from that cooler change coming at
the end of next week, most of the Todays are
looking a little bit milder, but the nights aren't overly warm,
temperatures between seven and ten degrees for the most part,
with one thirteen degree night on Saturday just coming tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So the laid up the Christmas that started for December
in general, though, are we going to say still a
late spring feel, yes, you will.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
In Southland and Otago, the lower, very lower part of
the South Island is going to get sort of maybe
not necessarily the polar boundary coming over the top of you,
but certainly brushing Stuart Island sobo straight coastal Southland at times,
and that just lowers the temperatures. You just feel that.
It's sort of like, you know, it's like being next
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to a heater, scanning a distance from it where you've
only just turned it on and you can feel the
heat coming from it, even though it hasn't warmed the
room up. Well. The polar boundaries, like the opposite version
of that it's nearby, hasn't really dropped the temperatures for everybody,
but you can feel that cold presence nearby, and so
I think that you will notice some lower temperatures off
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and on as we go through this month. Larninia has
formed officially, but it is weak. It is not a
very powerful larninia. It's not expected to last very long,
like could be gone by within a month orth or so,
so it's it's really only affecting the top of the
North Island, and so yeah, most of the country is
in sort of a neutral weather pattern where it's not
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overly Larninia and it's not overly springl like. But if
you're at the top of the country, it's more like Larninia,
and if you're at the south of the country, it's
more like spring.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So it's Lainania, but not as we know it exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yep. And by the way, every Larninia is unique. They
are all unique. It is not like a switch and
suddenly it's all raining and it's humid every day. The
media say that for some reason when every time it happens.
But three two of the last three Larnina events we
had brought big drought into the North Island, into regions
that everyone said would be raining. So yeah, it doesn't
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always work the way we think it does because it's
measured in the equator. And not only that, it's measured
north of Tahiti, not even north of Fiji, so it's
quite a long distance away where we measure La Nina,
and so obviously Southland you're closer to Antarctica than you
are to the Equator.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Likes of Menaploorie, for example. Speaking to Andy Dennis, the
other day he was saying, how wet it is. Are
they going to get a bit of a reprieve and
get some sunshine.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't know if they're going to get a huge
amount of like I mean, they'll get sunshine in there,
but there's still a fair bit of rain. Like most
of the rain coming up in New Zealand over the
next ten days is in the southwest corner of the
South Island, so Fjordland and Southwestland, and that does spill
over a little bit into the Lakes District and into
western parts of Southland, so that may still be there.
(09:54):
And if you look at the soil moisture maps, that's
exactly what I'm describing. You know, it's wet on the
western side, it's wet around Queenstown, and then as you
go southwards to the southern coastline of Southland it goes
back to normal. And if you're in the Gore side
of things, it's slightly drier than normal now only a
little bit, but it's just starting to show up in
the at least in the newer soil moisture map.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes, certainly being a different season from what we're accustomed.
So you say about three or four years ago for December,
but that's just what we're faced with, right.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah. The amount of blue and the soil moisture maps
that has appeared in the last few weeks has been
quite quite interesting. You know, places like Auckland where I
am it is it is we're in a water surplus.
Like that's pretty rare going into the start of December,
but that's what we've got. Does happen some years with
the thunderstorms in particular, and that instability, and I'm actually
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picking that this is a summer we're probably going to
see more thunderstorms and more downpours, especially around northern New Zealand,
but even on the west coast because of the westerly
flow that's kicking in. That'll effects Stuart Island and may
even affect coastal parts of Southland, the very very coastline
well south of you. But yeah, it's variety, that is
the word that I'm using to describe the weather, which
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for most farmers is a good thing. If you're a camper,
it's not like when you're a camping you want it
to be funny every day, dry every day. But when
you're a farmer, yeah, you still want some rain in
the mix for the most part, and I think we're
going to get that as we go through this month.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Tild uncle of a weather watch. We always appreciate your
time on the Muster. Will chat next week and join
the weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You too, buddy, You have a great one.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Film. Don't going to wear the watch.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You're listening to the Muster next we're a way to
catch up with Andrew Cochran out of in his Vets.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
The Muster's Animal health segment with NS Vets adding value
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Speaker 3 (11:54):
And you.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Cochrane from in his Fits joins us once again on
the Muster.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Cocky, good afternoon, hellse SAgs, good Andy, Hell are you?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You're not too bad? It's been I don't know the weather,
it's we're like it a little bit warmer. It's like
that middle bowl of porates. We're just trying to find
a heavy place at the moment we are.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
It's a real mixed bags. And then I see there's
a fever of rain forecast again someday, which won't go
I'm need to either, so we're looking forward to that.
But we could do it a bit more heat.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Right, so the balls are out at the moment, well
preparation if they're not already out, especially in the b
side of things. But a couple of things to be
weary of, Yes.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I mean the beef one, someone will be out, someone
will be close to going out, and in the dairy space,
those that are still using balls, they will be getting
close to going out of that sort of six week mark.
So just the reminder rarely to monitor the balls and
keep a close eye on them. Probably easier done in
the dairy space when we're seeing them at least twice
a day generally, but in the beef space they can
sort of bet out out in the hill somewhere and
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forgotten about, and that's you know, we'll see breakdowns and
big problems are scanning if they're not monitored closely. So
what I tend to recommend clients is to take the time,
probably at least twice a week, just to watch the
bulls and see that they are getting the job done.
So the main one, I guess is fighting and lameness
and injuries as a result of that. So we can
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often see that with them walking and being lame or
a bit of stuff and sore, but then taking the
time to watch it they can still mount the cow
and achieve their goal is important as well, because we'll
see sometimes see breakdowns that aren't immediate, immediately obvious, but
they aren't able to mount the cow and get the
job done. And if they're a dominant ball and keeping
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the other balls away, that's when we can see real problems.
The other real common issue at this time of year
that we'll see with balls is breakdown of I guess
the epparatus, so we'll see a broken penis or see
damage or trauma or infection to the sheath, and those
teams will also mean that the bull's not doing the job,
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so taking note of that. In the dairy space, the
most common problem really is lameness from feet, and that's
generally the result of bulls coming out of the paddock,
onto the lane and into the concrete yard. If we
can avoid those things, then we can significantly reduce the
impact of lame feet and balls, and again that will
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cause bulls to not be doing the job that they're
able to do.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Especially with beef cattle, if you've got them on the hill,
it can be easier said than done to keep a
record of how they're performing as such, but really relevant points.
I mean broken pizzle for one of another term. I
suppose I know what you're supposed to say around that one,
like you say a broken apparatus. As such, it's certainly
something to be wary of, though if you get caught
out something seems a bit abnormal. You just got to
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keep on top of this without sounding like a bun.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Yeah, And the broken penis think isn't immediately obvious. It's
generally a swelling between the sheet and the testicles, and
it can be the size of a rugby ball, but
it's sort of hidden underneath their and won't be you know,
really clear unless you are looking closely, So worth keeping
an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's weaning season. It sounds as though lambs well pretty
good actually from what I'm hearing. As far as weaning drafts.
What are you hearing, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Mixed bag. I mean, I think yous have come through
the spring having done it reasonably tough on a lot
of properties. I've heard a lot of guys that have
had lower covers than they have in the past, and
worse even than last year. So and then others that
have got reasonably good covers for various reasons, so there
will be a mixed bag, there will be a variety
of worm burdens. We are seeing more and more fects
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come through in that sort of pre weaning space, which
is great because we shouldn't just continue to do what
we've always done in that area, especially where drenches are failing.
And I heard of a result last week where they
did a pre weaning drench. They did a figurely count
before and ten days after and the triple drench did nothing.
So that's a real concern and that's I think our
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new reality. So certainly worth monitoring in that space. But yep,
certainly guys will be gearing up weaning in the next
couple of weeks, and so the big one, I guess
is that sort of weaning drench, but you know, using
a bit more science around that, secretly accounting doing a
drench check to see that it's work all worthwhile five
and one cloustridial eight one and one will be getting
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used as well, often for a lot of guys. Now
that's their final booster shot, which is great. That will
be protected sort of within a week after that second
shot and have reasonable protection against pulpy kidney, especially for
those lambs that are going on at high quality feed.
We're seeing more raft no being used, more clovers, which
are great. They provide a wee bit of drought protection,
but are also really good in that work space.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Realistically, when does fly start to becou an issue.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
The classic fly problem which is worth bringing this up,
is between Christmas and New Year, and particularly in tudus,
so they tend to have that right length of wall,
particularly if they've been shorn as a hogitt in the spring.
So our first, our first cases of fly blow are
usually between Christmas and news which is a horrible time.
It's just when you thought you might get a few
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days off and you do the final shift before you
go away and find ten fly blow and use. So
we're seeing more and more people being proactive in that space,
ensuring the us go through the dip at waning time
and that provides you hopefully greater than ten weeks protection.
But again, as we've talked about before, that depends on
how much chemical we're getting on them, how well that
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jetta is doing the job that it is meant to
be doing. But generally we should get at least a
couple of months to ten weeks if we're doing a
half piece of job and that's a bit of peace
of mind over that Christmas period.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We've talked about people changing their drenching routine Andrew, are
they starting to change your dipping routine as well.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
We're seeing more and more people being proactive in that space.
It's historically, particularly in Southland, have been very reactive. We
see a few fly blow and sheep's typically the tip
of the iceberg and as a result of that they'll
get the use in and get a treatment on. What
that does is it forces us to use a product
that is both a treatment and it prevented, and that
product is a lot more expensive than just the preventive
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So if we do get in a system where we're
doing preventive dips such as at weaning time, we can
be using a product with just soromasme in it, which
is a cheaper product, and so I think that's quite
a cost effective thing to be doing as well. So
you know, it's been comonplace in the North Island for
a long time with the fly that they get up there,
especially places like the Hawk's Bay, but it's becoming more
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important down here in South London.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because it's no longer just about the blowfly. It's the
green fly on the back that's going to be the
issue with the Twodoo's.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
Right, Yeah, totally yep. So historically we've just got the
old brown blowfly, which likes to sort of chase the
shit around the paddock, and if we keep our use
clean generally we're okay. But this izy green blowfly just
like the smell of a sheep, and so it's the
one that strikes in the back and the shoulder and
you can't really do much about that other than providing
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chemical and.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
The other thing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Before we finish up as well, we'll go back to
the cattle calf marking.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yeah, so that generally happens now just before the ball
goes out, or will have happened in a lot of places.
The big things there, I guess. The main thing that's
happening is ringing bullcarves to turn them into stairs. And
each year we get called to rigs that have either
got on the heaf, is pregnant which is never a
good outcome, or just been noticed at weaning time and
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we've got to go in there and remove a testicle
that left behind. So just a reminder rarely to pay attention.
Make sure when you let go of the illustrators that
you have still got two testicles on the bottom side
of the ring. And we will see animals. And it's
quite reasonably common to see animals that are a rig
before you even put a ring on, so they've only
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got one testicle or they haven't fully descended. Our recommendation
for those animals is to leave them tired. Don't just
remove the one testicle that's obvious, because it could be
that he's still fertile. And if you've removed the obvious testicle,
he looks like a stair and next minute you've got
pregnant hippus again. So if you can only find one
testacle or they're both quite sort of short scroded, your
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best just to leave them and we'll pick them up
at weaning time, or get the vedan sooner if you
need to, and we'll get them cut out.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, very relevant at this time of year, mate, Now,
the best way to get in touch of inn his fits.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, give us a call.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
It's December for us now, so we get quieter and
quieter leading into Christmas, which is which is great for us,
and it means that for our farmers, we're generally available
to three two o two five six three six, and
you should have got to get one of us at
their rivers.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Though good Only Andrew will catch up with Morgan a
couple of weeks, but you enjoy the holiday season.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Catch next year.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Send you Andy, Andrew Cochrane of in his fits Animal
Health Advisors to the Muster, Michelle what joins us?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Next? And the country crossover?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Mary you come from Weddy you come from Mary long Aial.
It's time for the country crossover. Michelle What, executive producer
joins us out of the country. Good afternoon, the Red
Necks coddonnoyed Joe because we can.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Oh, it's I have to say this, and it's unpopular
opinion and one of my favorite that it brings back
so many memories of it being requested down in the
Rosebank Lodge or the Saudi and Bower clother and it
got the whole dance for up.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I think it still would this song. I'll be honest
with you.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
What's not to like about it?
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Come on, Oh, there's nothing. It's a very happy song,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
That's what we need, just people just need to stop
being angry at this time of year.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
I think so. I think there's a lot of people
get very tense, don't they. And I just want to say,
calm the farm, because it's not it's Christmas at the
end of the day, it's not it's not the end
of the world or anything like that.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
You just got to enjoy it for each.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Day and just survive till the you know, until you
get to the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Would they say survive? Was it thrive twenty twenty five
or survive twenty.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Twenty I have no idea. I missed that memo. Hey,
it's been a flat out week. We'll start off with
this as well.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
This is a this is a good initiative, a great
initiative if it occurs. Are Penny Simmons, MP for the
Environment talking about farm plastic recycling and getting the green light?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I think this is fantastic. I mean, all that plastic
that's used to wrap up baylage and silence pits and
all that sort of stuff. It needs to go somewhere, right,
and I think this kind of initiative is a fantastic idea, right.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
So this is one on the press release. The other day.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
The industry lead scheme will bring the existing agg recovery
and plays back programs into a single national system offering.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Free to use.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's the key phrase there, simple and accessible services for
all users of in scope agrichemicals and farm plastics because
people are having to pay to get their plastic carded.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Yeah, and I think that's a big one, isn't it.
If it's free, people will do it. Also, if it's
accessible and easy, I think people forget especially in rural
areas of urban centers like Auckland and things like that,
or bigger areas forget.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
That really really rural areas.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Like down where we're from in South London things. You're
quite a long way away from stuff a lot of
the time. And if something's not accessible and it's not easy,
it makes it difficult and people are less likely to
do it. And that is basic psychology, basic human behavior.
If something's hard, people are less likely to follow through
on it. So it's great to see this is coming
into effect and I think I think it'll be really popular.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, Penny Simmons on the Muster on Monday, So I'll
ask you a more detail around that. I care you're
not rushing up to Auckland to buy Swedish meatballs this weekend.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Definitely not you know that the Swedish meatballs come from
Australian beef.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Andy, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I'm just I can't believe how much free publicity you've got.
For goodness sake, it's been leading news bulletins.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
I've never really understood lining up to go to a store,
to be honest, Andy, and I grew up my parents
owned a furniture store obviously for years growing up. So
for me, flatpack furniture that was made somewhere really cheap
is just really not a good thing. It's not a
good thing for New Zealand industry in my mind either.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yes's consumer choice, I suppose at the end of the
day as well, cost of living, YadA, yadda.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I do appreciate your point.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Well, I think we had a lot of manufacturers in
New Zealand for years of Furnit just there's still quite
a few around families that have been around for a
very long time.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Yeah, but it is expensive to obviously pay people to
make that stuff, and then also the product itself is
not that cheap either.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
So ICA does serve a market but at the.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Same time, I don't really understand lining up for hours
into a store that's going to be there for the
next ten twenty years.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It's like Costco.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
People talk about how great it is, but the thing
that I don't understand is you need a membership to
be a part of it, and it only works if
you buy things in bulk.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
Yeah. I've never actually stepped into a Costco myself.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Have you been to an Ica, You've been to Europe?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You I've been to an Ike over in the UK.
The flat pack drama.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
I've never stepped foot in one, and I don't intend to.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Interesting right, Hey, this is a cool story as well.
South and uyerl Port Trust seven doing some awesome work
over the past couple of months and tomorrow as well
they're bringing fishing for farmers happening at the Ariti River
and set a bush fishing skills go and lose some
new stuff for free Barby as well, and as well
the Otago spar pools they did this last year help
them make nominations.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
There's a sparpool on offer for.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Three months three month, a free three month rental of
a spar pool. Somebody who's been deserving, so you need
to go and have a little nomination form so that
South and Rural Support trust.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
They've been busy beavers lately.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I saw the fishing one and I thought this is fantastic.
It's something that people can turn up do for a
little bit and then leave again.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
It's not a commitment turning up to something like that,
which I think is really great, especially if you're just
wanted to step off farm for a few minutes an
hour or so, do something different, talk to some people
that are going through similar stuff as you, and then
you have to get back to the farm. It's actually
a really good activity and hopefully the weather lasts out
for the fishing and hopefully they catch a few fish
out of the river.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And it's all about parades at this time of year
as well. The Waymea Planes, Vintage Tractor and Machinery Club
are holding their annual Christmas parade in Riversdale two thirty
on Sunday. This upcoming Sunday barbecue lunch at the club rooms.
Lolly Scramble they still do lollly scrambles with no road
cones as well. Held good big stationary engine's going to
be running afternoon te to follow later on. So get
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in touch with Dick Dylan if you want to be
a tractor driver. Oh three two o one six two
six four, Dick still got the landline going.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Good on you, Richard, uh lollly scrambles.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Just going back to that one. Do you remember getting
hit in the head with those little lollies?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Did they still throw those out?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I hope so them? Probably them are fruit bursts, but
they were great. They're like weapons.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
What was your favorite flavor? Everyone had a favorite.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Flaving cream, Yes, and cream, followed by coconut.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
A coconut that's a yeah, that's a choice.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You can get rid of malt as well. They just
didn't do it for me. I'm afraid.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
I don't think anyone liked the malt one.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
If you people did, I mean, it's like when you
get to the pick a mix of the chocolate box.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Everyone's got a gripe.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Against cherry ripe about trying to rhyme and Turkish to lights,
which I just don't understand.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Yeah, I kind of get it. I'm not a fan
of those two things, so I'll eat everything else before
I eat those, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So you've got a busy weekend plan you're buiking up
to Timaru or something, just a bit of training and
because you can.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Not quite I will have training rides planned. But speaking
of riding for farmers, there are those groups all over
New Zealand, so it's worth locking them up. There's one
down in Southland and they alternate between where they go.
I actually met a lovely young lady up at a race,
I said over the weekend that's from that group, and
I would fully recommend if you've got a bike, giving
them a message and joining up with them and finding
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out where they go because they're a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Good on you, Michelle. Always appreciate your time. We'll chat
one last time before we finish up.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
For the year.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
Oh that's scary, isn't it? One last time and you.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Got two weeks to go enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Welcome back to the muster Tony Groves of Halo Training.
We caught up a few weeks ago with Tony and
we're going to have a follow up year and again
this afternoon, just to see how things have been in
a few weeks since. I mean, you talk about resilience
on farm and the likes, and Tony's got some great
things that he can implement as well through a course
that he's offering. Tony rocking to the muster once again.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
Hey, thanks mate, Thanks having me back.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You're always good to catch up. Now we spoke up
about three or four weeks. We had to catch up
about three or four weeks ago. That should be and
really interested in getting an insight around some courses that
you're offering just for the uninitiated and those that missed it.
Talk about what Halo trainings about well, Halo.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Training We initially we actually came about it by accident.
It wasn't something we set out to do intentionally. But
I joined the Australian Army as a young infantry soldier
of sixteen and a half when I signed up, and
I did eleven years there and then five years with
the private military company in Iraq and understand e symore
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with the army, and when I came back home, I
found there was a real there was a real interest
in the leadership lessons that we'd learned overseas from business people.
I started out as just conversations and eventually it ended
up turning into our actual business because I was talking
when I integrated into the real world, just in the workforce.
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I started complaining also about some of the things that
I've been seeing going on in terms of leadership, and
with a nudge from my wife, she said, well, we
said of complaining about it, if we know the answer,
we should set up a business. So we set up
HALO Training, which really focuses on the lessons that we
learned from the battlefield that apply directly to business and agriculture.
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And agriculture came on a little bit later. To be honest,
we didn't set out to do ag either. We started
out teaching business in general, and we got more and
more farmers interested because they could see how many similarities
there were from farming and being an infantry soldier, being
out in the weather, hard work, no set hours, mental
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health issues, a whole lot. So it really resonated as
a result. Halo Training we teach leadership for business, but
we also have a leadership and agriculture program called CHLF
Certified Halo Leader sorry chl AG Certified Halo Leader Agriculture
and it's a one year program that last year we
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rented out a fair light station and this year we'll
be running out of farm lands at Mossbourn.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, it's an under recent correlation you bring there being
on the battlefield, but to the resilience of farmers in
the middle of September, for example, when the weather is
an on your side.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Yeah, that's right. It's like it's so similar if we're
out on an infantry patrol over se it doesn't matter
what the weather's doing. The job still has to happen.
And yeah, it impacts what we're doing. It makes it
a lot more difficult and it adds pressure, but we're
still we're out there in the environment all the time,
and we're away from our families as well. Right, we
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may have touched on it last time, I'm not sure,
but something that's come up quite a lot from farmers
on our egg program. They talk about things like when
you guys are overseas, you're away from your family. As farmers,
we might not be away from our families geographically, but
our farms are quite large and we're always away from
our family for long periods of time. So there's actually
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quite a common ground there as well.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Regarding HALO and your approach to the course of such Tony,
what's involved.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
Well, for our egg program, it's stretched out over the
course of a year, So we do a three hour
session once a month and we focus on just one
to each month. And this is actually designed from the
feedback or the input we are getting from farmers saying
that if they want to do a program on leadership,
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they'll do communication here and they'll do resilience somewhere else.
And they said there was no one stop place where
you could go and get the whole suite. And that's
what this is all about. It we teach twelve subjects
over the course of a year, three hours each month,
and it's designed to be really quick and accessible, so
you can get off the farm for a few hours
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and then go back to work again. And what we
really provide is structured approach, so there's like a leadership
operating system that farmers can adopt, not just themselves for
those who are on the program, but they can introduce
it to that farms and they can create leadership consistency
and structure through that process.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So it's only thirty six sails throughout the year. That
means it three hours a month about being Einstein, but
it's enough for people to get an understanding of what
they need to do from.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
A leadership perspective. Take it back to their perspective businesses.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And what we do is, so
let's say the first month might be on strategic communication.
We have really simple, easy to recall tools and that's
actually something that we learned from the battlefield. A thesis
is great if there's a place for it, but when
you're on the farm in the moment, under pressure, you
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need to be able to call the information you need
right here, right now, off the top of your head.
So if we're doing that communication approach that topic, then
what happens is we'll discuss it, we'll provide the tool,
they'll practice it in the class, and then after that,
between that month and the next month, they'll do a
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short three to five minute case study on where they've
applied that tool back on the farm and what the
results were, and then they'll present it to the group
and everybody does it, and that way we hear the
perspectives from all you know, all the different farmers that
are in the program. So it's only through how you
get the tools, but you also have to go out
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and practice them in the workplace. So we know that
the tools are getting applied because they have to present
them on the next session.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So the farmers that have been involved with your courses
in the past time you mus been the biggest takeaway
to take them from the from the overall set up.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
All right, it's actually quite interesting if there's really two.
The first and most common is, I had no idea
what leadership even was until I attended the program. A
lot of people, Yeah, I'm a farm manager. I know
exactly what I'm doing. And then when you come into
the class and you ask what is leadership? It starts
right there, what is leadership? And you know, we heard
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from when we were overseas if we can't clearly articulate
what leadership is and how do we know we're doing it?
And what does good look like? So that was the
biggest takeaway is that. And then the second most common
point that gets brought up is the importance of structure.
So our communication tool is just three words as a guide,
and that's easy to remember and it helps me structure
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what I need to communicate to my teams. And the
feedback that we've been getting about that is these tools
are so simple, they're so easy to use, and it's
changed everything on the farm because it covers all the
things that they need to communicate, but we keep it
packaged up in a really clear and concise message that's
not only easy for them to communicate, it's easy for
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the team to interpret.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
How do people get involved?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
What where do they get in touch regading Halo Training
If they're can to actually go through and think about
what they need to do as far as leadership capabilities.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
They just come to our website at Halo Training dot
co dot MZ and go to our programs and you'll
see a certified Halo Leader Agriculture program and it's got
all the information there about the program and it starts
the next cohort starts in twenty nine Generary next year
at Moss Spernit farm Lands, and we've got a lot
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of interest. Actually, if I've got a moment, yes, I
want to talk about four things that have come up.
You know, since the last time we spoke, we've had
quite a lot of people reach out to us, and
I find it really interesting as to why people are
reaching out to join the program. And the four points
was improve farm communication, which we're just talking about, creating
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effective leader consistency, addressing personality clashes and team dynamics, and
helping their managers lead their team through adversity. So they
are the four primary reasons why people are signing up,
which I find really interesting that all have been around
these four points.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Halo Training, dot co, dot in zef anybody that's interested.
Tony Groves, thanks very much, your time on the muster
really interesting as usual.
Speaker 10 (36:53):
Okay, thanks a lot, and you really appreciated me.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Tony Groves of Halo Training once again, Halo Training, dot co,
dot m Z. If you want to look at leadership
capabilities and what you can achieve in a personal scale
as well, get in touch of Tony and team. Always
good to catch up. Murray Cobran's and studio. Next from
Mainland Minerals, we're going to find our salves, our winner
of this five hundred dollar prizzy card. Welcome back to
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the Muster on Hokanui, now enjoyed in studio this afternoon
by Murray Cobran of Mainlir Minerals. Now thanks to Maine
Their Minerals, we've teamed up with him over the past
week to give you the opportunity to win a five
hundred dollars prazy card, and this afternoon we're going to
announce this lucky Winner. So Murray always good to catch up.
Speaker 11 (37:49):
How things Yeah great, Andy, Yeah, we just wanted to
do something special heading into Christmas with the five hundred
dollars Preezy card giveaway. Farmers have you had a massive
year this year, so this is just air way of
giving back. We're a local business and it's important to
us to support our own local community.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Absolutely, and there's been hundreds of entries as well. It's
been pretty really well supported.
Speaker 11 (38:14):
Yeah, it has, it's been. It's been fantastic. Actually, Lisa
doing our socials has done a fantastic job. And yeah,
loads of people I think over three hundre people have
put entries in so through through the mainland socials and
the Muster and hocken Ey Breakfast. So that's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And your mainly mineral page on Facebook. It's it's going great,
isn't it.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
It's going fantastic. Yeah, you know, things are things are
humming along. There is getting a lot of a lot
of views and all the things that I don't really
know what they are.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
We're about to ask you, how do you go have
social media? I don't imagine you'll have TikTok? Got that
I do either.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
I don't have TikTok, I don't have Facebook. I have
been looking at the way but Instagram just just for
the mainland side of it to see what's going on.
That's about it. But get scrolling, no doom scrolling ap
to do?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah it is?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah right, So without further ado, Murray, I'll give you
a drum roll and you can announce our winner today.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Who's our winner?
Speaker 11 (39:12):
Anna Holden? A big congratulations to her, thanks for getting involved.
She made a note that Jeep as my paddocks would
think it was Christmas with a visit from mainly minerals.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well there you go, I mean, and that's one of
the things you're.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Talking about when I give the gift of fertilizer for
your peeddix this season.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Absolutely so very good idea the Andy and Anna will
you will be in touch to get your prize sorted
and thanks to everyone who entered. We had an awesome response.
Keep an eye out for where there's more over the
next twelve days of FIRTNSS on our socials.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Twelve days ofs that's good.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, don't mind that your congratulations, Anna Holden. Somebody will
be in touch you enjoy that. Five hundred dollars Prazzy card.
Now anyway, the season is such, I mean, gee, a
bit of moist Some people want moistures, some people want sunshine.
Speaker 11 (40:03):
Oh what a season it's been. A spring has just
been one out of the box. We thought last year
couldn't get any worse and this one's been just another
layer on top of that. So, yeah, December has been
a very busy month on farm and also for mainland.
It's a good time to make sure you've got what
your needs sorted before everyone gets we shut down over
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the break, So make sure you've got anything sorted before
that Christmas break if you need anything from mainland gives
a yell. We take a break from December the twenty third,
the Tuesday back on Wednesday, the seventh of gen.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
So how have you found a year?
Speaker 11 (40:38):
Oh, it's been a last year was outstanding. Year before
was probably the worst one we've had. The spring has
just been. Yeah, we've been going okay, but it's just
been a bit tricky with this weather. You know, farmers
have been sort of holding off when all that that
weather comes through September October and then capped it off
of that wind. As everyone knows that a bigger window
(40:59):
end twenty third October and then people have been hogging
into it since. So I think also the sheep and
beef guys, they are waiting to see what they get
in the bag with these prices, with good looking prices,
and they just want to make sure that actually eventuates.
So once they get that, they'll be into it. The
dairy guys are still just going gangbusters, are doing what
they were doing last year and they're doing well. So
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it's really good. It's really positive.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
And one thing was saying over the rural community Murray,
especially over the past couple of months, is the way
that people get together in times of crisis, with these
ones we had just over six weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
You're luck at December.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
It's busy, we get that too, but you need to
make time for a wee bit of a break.
Speaker 11 (41:38):
I absolutely do it. It's so important that people take
a break over this, you know, just the odd day,
half a day, get off the farm, have a bit
of fun with family and friends and just connect with
people and get your head out of the game and
then you can get back in at fresher And that
same reason why we do that in mainland for a
couple of weeks, which is it's really really.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Important regarding mainland minerals as well.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
What's the point of difference if you guys.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
We just services there had Number one thing is getting
getting in alongside our clients, understanding what they're trying to
achieve and actually putting in a solid plan to make
sure that does happen. Because you know, the way the
sort of fertilized industry is going at the moment is
it's becoming more hands off, more through the internet. Just
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just auder your product. But if you're not all the
right stuff to put on the right areas, then you're
actually thinking you're saving a buck, but you're actually costing
yourself in the long run, and that to me is
where it's a real concern. And I think that's why
having good experienced guys that we've got in their mainland
team is awesome. They know what they're doing. They rip
your rip your salt tests apart to make sure they
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put the right stuff on the right area. And it's
not just sol tests. It can be more of the
eeration side of it, compaction, drainage, all those sort of
things as well, and they'll actually go out and walk
your fields and have a look at it. And that's
really important to get your head around that and having good, good,
bigger around the table. So you've got a trusted advisor
in your team. That's that's where our differences.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
And the thing is if decembreck goes from zero to
zero to one hundred, I mean one day it's spring rain,
neck manute, it's Christmas Eve and you're trying to do
everything around the house to appease the other half. So
sometimes you can't win, but you just got to put
things into consideration.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 11 (43:21):
Just you know, we always we always get there, so
just keep chipping away and and that's what we're doing
here at Mainland and we're helping helping guys get to
where they want to get too long term. So it's
just taking that long term view and with good people
around you, that's the key thing. Have some time out
and enjoy Christmas, have have fun over New Years, and
life goes on.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah the line you're written here as well, I reckon
Farmers and look forward to Boxing Day more than Christmas Day.
At least there's no ripping paper evolved. It's a fair assumption.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (43:51):
The other one we got here is of Sandy had
to do morning milking. He'd only visit in hiss on
On once.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Pretty much about it. Hey, always good to catch up
with you guys.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Murray, thanks once again for being involved. We've got a
great relationship absolutely, you guys have a great holiday your
Christmas season as such, and we'll catch up new Year.
And once again, congratulations to Anna Holden on wanting that
five hundred dollars Prizzy card. And always great to catch
up with you guys from Mainly Minerals.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Eh.
Speaker 11 (44:17):
Thanks, Andy have a great great man.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
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Speaker 4 (44:23):
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Speaker 4 (44:41):
I don't know why I laughing.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It ever, I just stay right anyway. Hey, good on you, Murray,
enjoy the weekend and it's good to catch up. Cheers
Marry Co brand of Mainly Minerals. It's great to catch
up with the team and of course, mess of congratulations
and are holding that five hundred dollars preezy card mainly minerals.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
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Speaker 1 (45:01):
Let's ass over at double for the weekend. The best
of the Master five am tomorrow morning. The must podcast
going up surely on iHeartRadio. My name is Andy Muller.
This has been the muster rou on Hokinnu. He brought
to you by Peterson the Lex. Enjoy the weekend, see
him Monday,
Friday afternoon once again, so we're catching out with Nathan
Abernethy from Regional Ford Yaday, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, gooday, Andy. Friday's rolled around again and a pretty
warm one it is out there too, by Jingos. It's
certain certainly on the windy side, showing high twenties in
the vehicle as I was driving around. So yep, lovely,
but we were a rain probably wouldn't go on, Missie.
That is to keep things fresh. But look in the
showroom here or out of the wind. It's lovely and warm,
plenty happening here today and I'm on the used car lot.
(00:27):
We're just going through getting making sure everything's all all
cleaned and window cards and stuff done. We've had a
lot of new stock coming this last week and we'd
love to run through a couple with you, if that's okay.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We've just had in the last couple of days of
twenty sixteen, one owner local car Ford Mustang V eight
traveled twenty seven thousand k's that is wine red Ford
Mustang GT fively to V eight. You can't you still
can't beat that sound of that V eight. It's just
something that electric doesn't do, and not that we have
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an awful lot of follow tricks here anyway, but really
neat car as New Wine Red. It's got the black
sort of stripes on it and for fifty one to
nine to ninety, that is a very cool car and
a car that you've have a lot of fun this
summer as well as that. We've just had to go
out of twenty and seventeen Forward Escape, it's the trend
Forward Escape trends. It's the mid range one. It's got
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the roof racks, the eighteen inch alloy wheels, leather, the
bolsters on the seats. Traveled one hundred and ten thousand
k's not a huge mileage. Great cars, easy to hop
in and out of, great view. They've got reversing cameras
and GPS and all that sort of thing in them.
And for fifteen, nine hundred and ninety that's a great
vehicle for somebody as well. Four teams on deck and
there's plenty happening here today. We'd love to see you in. Otherwise,
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doors will be opened at half past nine in the
morning through it all twelve. But feel free to give
us a call anytime over the weekend, and don't forget
the team in the workshop with any of those last
minute things before the Christmas season comes around. We can
take care of those ward of fitnesses and services and
have you set to go? Check that caravan, check the boat,
make sure it's all set to go. But anyway, wishing
everybody a great weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Good on you Nath Chain next week.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Thanks Andy, good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakonui,
brought to you by Peters Genetics.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
My name is Andy Muir. Welcome to Friday. As we
look outside, like Nathan said before, pretty warm last time
I checked about twenty five degrees and we'll look at
the weather surely and as well Phil Dunkle and weather
Watch gives us a rundown on the weather for the
next week. Music for a Friday just ninety dancy stuff.
This song here de rude Sandstorm needs no introduction.
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny tear from
dot coj insad.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
This afternoon. This afternoon, that's been the thunderstorms of Veloper
with brisk north westerlies and twenty three Saturday cloudy of
breezy Westlease thirteen and twenty one.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Sunday shells of breezey nor Westerly is nine and.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Twenty four, Monday sunny and north westerly seven and twenty
and Tuesday cloudy of north Westleys forming twelve and twenty two.
So temperatures for Dougy, Omercow seventeen point one, Clinton thirteen
point nine, Harriet twelve point five, Northern south And fourteen
point three, Riverton fourteen point five, tn Our fifteen point one,
Titara fourteen point eight, Winton fourteen point three and Woodland's
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thirteen point three. Like I say, film don't go, weather
Watch gives us a rundown on the weather for the
next seven days. Shortly Andrew cockran from iny Vetzes on
the program. Michelle Watt joins us in the country Crossover.
Tony Groves of Halo Training talks about Halo Training.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
What it's about, Moy thinks is something.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
You need to consider, especially regarding farming leadership. And Maray
Cobra and the Mainland Minerals is in studio at the
end of the hour and we can go and do
the draw for the five hundred dollars Prizzy card that
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to see if your name is called up right, well,
carry on, We'll pull Duncan. This is the Muster until
two o'clock. Thanks to Peter Jenelicks, I'm starting to catch
(04:29):
up with Phil Duncan from Where to Watch as we
do every Friday, well pretty much most Fridays anyway, because
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he's a very busy man. Full Duncan of we're the watch.
Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Why do you, sir?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How's everything been for you over the past couple of weeks?
Pretty hectic leading into Christmas?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, hectic, and the weather's been pretty exciting up here
in the North with all these big severe thunderstorms that
passed through this week. So it was a bit of fun.
And we've built this new lightning tracker with the met
Service and Transpower and we're launching it. Well, we were
hoping to launch it this month, but it looks like
it might be in the new year. And it was
like the first time that I got to test it
(05:27):
and it was very exciting. So ah, this is awesome.
I can't wait to have this in the public domain
and people to be able to use it.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So what are we going to see down here over
the next seven days. It sounds like there's some rain
on the horizon, particularly on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, well, speaking of thunderstorms, actually there is some risk
of a thunderstorm this afternoon around parts of northern Southland.
You know, it's like about a thirty forty risk. But
we've got a few showers that are tracking through this
afternoon and so you never know, one might be a
little heavy, pretty mild today. That's another good thing. You know,
temperatures are up at the moment with that west to
(06:02):
northwesterly winds westerly stays tomorrow, temperature drops just a little
bit because it swings a bit more west southwest today
it's west northwest, so a slight difference and a slight
drop in temperature. But on Sunday that's when the heat
from Australia moves in, and you know, our temperature at
the moment is forecast to be twenty five degrees. We're
(06:23):
actually making some work at the moment. I'd love to
hear back any of your listeners that want to let
you know or let me know how you find our
temperatures and our forecast, because I think we underdo it
a little bit when we have a hot day, and
so we've got twenty five degrees as the high on Sunday,
but I think you know, twenty seven twenty eight is possible,
a couple of showers around, and then yeah, some rain
comes as some duck time. By the luks of it,
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here could be some showers around during the morning and
during the day, but nighttime has the higher chance. It's
not a huge amount, but maybe thirteen fifteen millimeters coming
through on Sunday night Monday morning, and then a bit
of a temperature drop next week, not much back to
the twenties again the lower time, and then you get
a cold change on Wednesday where the maximum is fifteen degrees.
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But generally speaking, apart from that cooler change coming at
the end of next week, most of the Todays are
looking a little bit milder, but the nights aren't overly warm,
temperatures between seven and ten degrees for the most part,
with one thirteen degree night on Saturday just coming tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So the laid up the Christmas that started for December
in general, though, are we going to say still a
late spring feel, yes, you will.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
In Southland and Otago, the lower, very lower part of
the South Island is going to get sort of maybe
not necessarily the polar boundary coming over the top of you,
but certainly brushing Stuart Island sobo straight coastal Southland at times,
and that just lowers the temperatures. You just feel that.
It's sort of like, you know, it's like being next
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to a heater, scanning a distance from it where you've
only just turned it on and you can feel the
heat coming from it, even though it hasn't warmed the
room up. Well. The polar boundaries, like the opposite version
of that it's nearby, hasn't really dropped the temperatures for everybody,
but you can feel that cold presence nearby, and so
I think that you will notice some lower temperatures off
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and on as we go through this month. Larninia has
formed officially, but it is weak. It is not a
very powerful larninia. It's not expected to last very long,
like could be gone by within a month orth or so,
so it's it's really only affecting the top of the
North Island, and so yeah, most of the country is
in sort of a neutral weather pattern where it's not
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overly Larninia and it's not overly springl like. But if
you're at the top of the country, it's more like Larninia,
and if you're at the south of the country, it's
more like spring.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So it's Lainania, but not as we know it exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yep. And by the way, every Larninia is unique. They
are all unique. It is not like a switch and
suddenly it's all raining and it's humid every day. The
media say that for some reason when every time it happens.
But three two of the last three Larnina events we
had brought big drought into the North Island, into regions
that everyone said would be raining. So yeah, it doesn't
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always work the way we think it does because it's
measured in the equator. And not only that, it's measured
north of Tahiti, not even north of Fiji, so it's
quite a long distance away where we measure La Nina,
and so obviously Southland you're closer to Antarctica than you
are to the Equator.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Likes of Menaploorie, for example. Speaking to Andy Dennis, the
other day he was saying, how wet it is. Are
they going to get a bit of a reprieve and
get some sunshine.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't know if they're going to get a huge
amount of like I mean, they'll get sunshine in there,
but there's still a fair bit of rain. Like most
of the rain coming up in New Zealand over the
next ten days is in the southwest corner of the
South Island, so Fjordland and Southwestland, and that does spill
over a little bit into the Lakes District and into
western parts of Southland, so that may still be there.
(09:54):
And if you look at the soil moisture maps, that's
exactly what I'm describing. You know, it's wet on the
western side, it's wet around Queenstown, and then as you
go southwards to the southern coastline of Southland it goes
back to normal. And if you're in the Gore side
of things, it's slightly drier than normal now only a
little bit, but it's just starting to show up in
the at least in the newer soil moisture map.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes, certainly being a different season from what we're accustomed.
So you say about three or four years ago for December,
but that's just what we're faced with, right.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah. The amount of blue and the soil moisture maps
that has appeared in the last few weeks has been
quite quite interesting. You know, places like Auckland where I
am it is it is we're in a water surplus.
Like that's pretty rare going into the start of December,
but that's what we've got. Does happen some years with
the thunderstorms in particular, and that instability, and I'm actually
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picking that this is a summer we're probably going to
see more thunderstorms and more downpours, especially around northern New Zealand,
but even on the west coast because of the westerly
flow that's kicking in. That'll effects Stuart Island and may
even affect coastal parts of Southland, the very very coastline
well south of you. But yeah, it's variety, that is
the word that I'm using to describe the weather, which
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for most farmers is a good thing. If you're a camper,
it's not like when you're a camping you want it
to be funny every day, dry every day. But when
you're a farmer, yeah, you still want some rain in
the mix for the most part, and I think we're
going to get that as we go through this month.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Tild uncle of a weather watch. We always appreciate your
time on the Muster. Will chat next week and join
the weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You too, buddy, You have a great one.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Film. Don't going to wear the watch.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
You're listening to the Muster next we're a way to
catch up with Andrew Cochran out of in his Vets.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
The Muster's Animal health segment with NS Vets adding value
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Speaker 3 (11:54):
And you.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Cochrane from in his Fits joins us once again on
the Muster.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Cocky, good afternoon, hellse SAgs, good Andy, Hell are you?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You're not too bad? It's been I don't know the weather,
it's we're like it a little bit warmer. It's like
that middle bowl of porates. We're just trying to find
a heavy place at the moment we are.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
It's a real mixed bags. And then I see there's
a fever of rain forecast again someday, which won't go
I'm need to either, so we're looking forward to that.
But we could do it a bit more heat.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Right, so the balls are out at the moment, well
preparation if they're not already out, especially in the b
side of things. But a couple of things to be
weary of, Yes.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
I mean the beef one, someone will be out, someone
will be close to going out, and in the dairy space,
those that are still using balls, they will be getting
close to going out of that sort of six week mark.
So just the reminder rarely to monitor the balls and
keep a close eye on them. Probably easier done in
the dairy space when we're seeing them at least twice
a day generally, but in the beef space they can
sort of bet out out in the hill somewhere and
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forgotten about, and that's you know, we'll see breakdowns and
big problems are scanning if they're not monitored closely. So
what I tend to recommend clients is to take the time,
probably at least twice a week, just to watch the
bulls and see that they are getting the job done.
So the main one, I guess is fighting and lameness
and injuries as a result of that. So we can
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often see that with them walking and being lame or
a bit of stuff and sore, but then taking the
time to watch it they can still mount the cow
and achieve their goal is important as well, because we'll
see sometimes see breakdowns that aren't immediate, immediately obvious, but
they aren't able to mount the cow and get the
job done. And if they're a dominant ball and keeping
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the other balls away, that's when we can see real problems.
The other real common issue at this time of year
that we'll see with balls is breakdown of I guess
the epparatus, so we'll see a broken penis or see
damage or trauma or infection to the sheath, and those
teams will also mean that the bull's not doing the job,
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so taking note of that. In the dairy space, the
most common problem really is lameness from feet, and that's
generally the result of bulls coming out of the paddock,
onto the lane and into the concrete yard. If we
can avoid those things, then we can significantly reduce the
impact of lame feet and balls, and again that will
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cause bulls to not be doing the job that they're
able to do.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Especially with beef cattle, if you've got them on the hill,
it can be easier said than done to keep a
record of how they're performing as such, but really relevant points.
I mean broken pizzle for one of another term. I
suppose I know what you're supposed to say around that one,
like you say a broken apparatus. As such, it's certainly
something to be wary of, though if you get caught
out something seems a bit abnormal. You just got to
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keep on top of this without sounding like a bun.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
Yeah, And the broken penis think isn't immediately obvious. It's
generally a swelling between the sheet and the testicles, and
it can be the size of a rugby ball, but
it's sort of hidden underneath their and won't be you know,
really clear unless you are looking closely, So worth keeping
an eye on that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's weaning season. It sounds as though lambs well pretty
good actually from what I'm hearing. As far as weaning drafts.
What are you hearing, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
Mixed bag. I mean, I think yous have come through
the spring having done it reasonably tough on a lot
of properties. I've heard a lot of guys that have
had lower covers than they have in the past, and
worse even than last year. So and then others that
have got reasonably good covers for various reasons, so there
will be a mixed bag, there will be a variety
of worm burdens. We are seeing more and more fects
(15:33):
come through in that sort of pre weaning space, which
is great because we shouldn't just continue to do what
we've always done in that area, especially where drenches are failing.
And I heard of a result last week where they
did a pre weaning drench. They did a figurely count
before and ten days after and the triple drench did nothing.
So that's a real concern and that's I think our
(15:55):
new reality. So certainly worth monitoring in that space. But yep,
certainly guys will be gearing up weaning in the next
couple of weeks, and so the big one, I guess
is that sort of weaning drench, but you know, using
a bit more science around that, secretly accounting doing a
drench check to see that it's work all worthwhile five
and one cloustridial eight one and one will be getting
(16:18):
used as well, often for a lot of guys. Now
that's their final booster shot, which is great. That will
be protected sort of within a week after that second
shot and have reasonable protection against pulpy kidney, especially for
those lambs that are going on at high quality feed.
We're seeing more raft no being used, more clovers, which
are great. They provide a wee bit of drought protection,
but are also really good in that work space.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Realistically, when does fly start to becou an issue.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
The classic fly problem which is worth bringing this up,
is between Christmas and New Year, and particularly in tudus,
so they tend to have that right length of wall,
particularly if they've been shorn as a hogitt in the spring.
So our first, our first cases of fly blow are
usually between Christmas and news which is a horrible time.
It's just when you thought you might get a few
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days off and you do the final shift before you
go away and find ten fly blow and use. So
we're seeing more and more people being proactive in that space,
ensuring the us go through the dip at waning time
and that provides you hopefully greater than ten weeks protection.
But again, as we've talked about before, that depends on
how much chemical we're getting on them, how well that
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jetta is doing the job that it is meant to
be doing. But generally we should get at least a
couple of months to ten weeks if we're doing a
half piece of job and that's a bit of peace
of mind over that Christmas period.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We've talked about people changing their drenching routine Andrew, are
they starting to change your dipping routine as well.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
We're seeing more and more people being proactive in that space.
It's historically, particularly in Southland, have been very reactive. We
see a few fly blow and sheep's typically the tip
of the iceberg and as a result of that they'll
get the use in and get a treatment on. What
that does is it forces us to use a product
that is both a treatment and it prevented, and that
product is a lot more expensive than just the preventive
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So if we do get in a system where we're
doing preventive dips such as at weaning time, we can
be using a product with just soromasme in it, which
is a cheaper product, and so I think that's quite
a cost effective thing to be doing as well. So
you know, it's been comonplace in the North Island for
a long time with the fly that they get up there,
especially places like the Hawk's Bay, but it's becoming more
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important down here in South London.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Because it's no longer just about the blowfly. It's the
green fly on the back that's going to be the
issue with the Twodoo's.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
Right, Yeah, totally yep. So historically we've just got the
old brown blowfly, which likes to sort of chase the
shit around the paddock, and if we keep our use
clean generally we're okay. But this izy green blowfly just
like the smell of a sheep, and so it's the
one that strikes in the back and the shoulder and
you can't really do much about that other than providing
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chemical and.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
The other thing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Before we finish up as well, we'll go back to
the cattle calf marking.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yeah, so that generally happens now just before the ball
goes out, or will have happened in a lot of places.
The big things there, I guess. The main thing that's
happening is ringing bullcarves to turn them into stairs. And
each year we get called to rigs that have either
got on the heaf, is pregnant which is never a
good outcome, or just been noticed at weaning time and
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we've got to go in there and remove a testicle
that left behind. So just a reminder rarely to pay attention.
Make sure when you let go of the illustrators that
you have still got two testicles on the bottom side
of the ring. And we will see animals. And it's
quite reasonably common to see animals that are a rig
before you even put a ring on, so they've only
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got one testicle or they haven't fully descended. Our recommendation
for those animals is to leave them tired. Don't just
remove the one testicle that's obvious, because it could be
that he's still fertile. And if you've removed the obvious testicle,
he looks like a stair and next minute you've got
pregnant hippus again. So if you can only find one
testacle or they're both quite sort of short scroded, your
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best just to leave them and we'll pick them up
at weaning time, or get the vedan sooner if you
need to, and we'll get them cut out.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, very relevant at this time of year, mate, Now,
the best way to get in touch of inn his fits.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, give us a call.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
It's December for us now, so we get quieter and
quieter leading into Christmas, which is which is great for us,
and it means that for our farmers, we're generally available
to three two o two five six three six, and
you should have got to get one of us at
their rivers.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Though good Only Andrew will catch up with Morgan a
couple of weeks, but you enjoy the holiday season.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Catch next year.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Send you Andy, Andrew Cochrane of in his fits Animal
Health Advisors to the Muster, Michelle what joins us?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Next? And the country crossover?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Mary you come from Weddy you come from Mary long Aial.
It's time for the country crossover. Michelle What, executive producer
joins us out of the country. Good afternoon, the Red
Necks coddonnoyed Joe because we can.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Oh, it's I have to say this, and it's unpopular
opinion and one of my favorite that it brings back
so many memories of it being requested down in the
Rosebank Lodge or the Saudi and Bower clother and it
got the whole dance for up.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
I think it still would this song. I'll be honest
with you.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
What's not to like about it?
Speaker 9 (21:36):
Come on, Oh, there's nothing. It's a very happy song,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
That's what we need, just people just need to stop
being angry at this time of year.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
I think so. I think there's a lot of people
get very tense, don't they. And I just want to say,
calm the farm, because it's not it's Christmas at the
end of the day, it's not it's not the end
of the world or anything like that.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
You just got to enjoy it for each.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Day and just survive till the you know, until you
get to the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Would they say survive? Was it thrive twenty twenty five
or survive twenty.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Twenty I have no idea. I missed that memo. Hey,
it's been a flat out week. We'll start off with
this as well.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
This is a this is a good initiative, a great
initiative if it occurs. Are Penny Simmons, MP for the
Environment talking about farm plastic recycling and getting the green light?
Speaker 8 (22:20):
I think this is fantastic. I mean, all that plastic
that's used to wrap up baylage and silence pits and
all that sort of stuff. It needs to go somewhere, right,
and I think this kind of initiative is a fantastic idea, right.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
So this is one on the press release. The other day.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
The industry lead scheme will bring the existing agg recovery
and plays back programs into a single national system offering.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Free to use.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's the key phrase there, simple and accessible services for
all users of in scope agrichemicals and farm plastics because
people are having to pay to get their plastic carded.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Yeah, and I think that's a big one, isn't it.
If it's free, people will do it. Also, if it's
accessible and easy, I think people forget especially in rural
areas of urban centers like Auckland and things like that,
or bigger areas forget.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
That really really rural areas.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Like down where we're from in South London things. You're
quite a long way away from stuff a lot of
the time. And if something's not accessible and it's not easy,
it makes it difficult and people are less likely to
do it. And that is basic psychology, basic human behavior.
If something's hard, people are less likely to follow through
on it. So it's great to see this is coming
into effect and I think I think it'll be really popular.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, Penny Simmons on the Muster on Monday, So I'll
ask you a more detail around that. I care you're
not rushing up to Auckland to buy Swedish meatballs this weekend.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
Definitely not you know that the Swedish meatballs come from
Australian beef.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Andy, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I'm just I can't believe how much free publicity you've got.
For goodness sake, it's been leading news bulletins.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
I've never really understood lining up to go to a store,
to be honest, Andy, and I grew up my parents
owned a furniture store obviously for years growing up. So
for me, flatpack furniture that was made somewhere really cheap
is just really not a good thing. It's not a
good thing for New Zealand industry in my mind either.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yes's consumer choice, I suppose at the end of the
day as well, cost of living, YadA, yadda.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But I do appreciate your point.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
Well, I think we had a lot of manufacturers in
New Zealand for years of Furnit just there's still quite
a few around families that have been around for a
very long time.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Yeah, but it is expensive to obviously pay people to
make that stuff, and then also the product itself is
not that cheap either.
Speaker 9 (24:26):
So ICA does serve a market but at the.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Same time, I don't really understand lining up for hours
into a store that's going to be there for the
next ten twenty years.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It's like Costco.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
People talk about how great it is, but the thing
that I don't understand is you need a membership to
be a part of it, and it only works if
you buy things in bulk.
Speaker 9 (24:43):
Yeah. I've never actually stepped into a Costco myself.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Have you been to an Ica, You've been to Europe?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You I've been to an Ike over in the UK.
The flat pack drama.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
I've never stepped foot in one, and I don't intend to.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Interesting right, Hey, this is a cool story as well.
South and uyerl Port Trust seven doing some awesome work
over the past couple of months and tomorrow as well
they're bringing fishing for farmers happening at the Ariti River
and set a bush fishing skills go and lose some
new stuff for free Barby as well, and as well
the Otago spar pools they did this last year help
them make nominations.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
There's a sparpool on offer for.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Three months three month, a free three month rental of
a spar pool. Somebody who's been deserving, so you need
to go and have a little nomination form so that
South and Rural Support trust.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
They've been busy beavers lately.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I saw the fishing one and I thought this is fantastic.
It's something that people can turn up do for a
little bit and then leave again.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
It's not a commitment turning up to something like that,
which I think is really great, especially if you're just
wanted to step off farm for a few minutes an
hour or so, do something different, talk to some people
that are going through similar stuff as you, and then
you have to get back to the farm. It's actually
a really good activity and hopefully the weather lasts out
for the fishing and hopefully they catch a few fish
out of the river.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And it's all about parades at this time of year
as well. The Waymea Planes, Vintage Tractor and Machinery Club
are holding their annual Christmas parade in Riversdale two thirty
on Sunday. This upcoming Sunday barbecue lunch at the club rooms.
Lolly Scramble they still do lollly scrambles with no road
cones as well. Held good big stationary engine's going to
be running afternoon te to follow later on. So get
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in touch with Dick Dylan if you want to be
a tractor driver. Oh three two o one six two
six four, Dick still got the landline going.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Good on you, Richard, uh lollly scrambles.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
Just going back to that one. Do you remember getting
hit in the head with those little lollies?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Did they still throw those out?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I hope so them? Probably them are fruit bursts, but
they were great. They're like weapons.
Speaker 9 (26:41):
What was your favorite flavor? Everyone had a favorite.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Flaving cream, Yes, and cream, followed by coconut.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
A coconut that's a yeah, that's a choice.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
You can get rid of malt as well. They just
didn't do it for me. I'm afraid.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
I don't think anyone liked the malt one.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
If you people did, I mean, it's like when you
get to the pick a mix of the chocolate box.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Everyone's got a gripe.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Against cherry ripe about trying to rhyme and Turkish to lights,
which I just don't understand.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Yeah, I kind of get it. I'm not a fan
of those two things, so I'll eat everything else before
I eat those, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
So you've got a busy weekend plan you're buiking up
to Timaru or something, just a bit of training and
because you can.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
Not quite I will have training rides planned. But speaking
of riding for farmers, there are those groups all over
New Zealand, so it's worth locking them up. There's one
down in Southland and they alternate between where they go.
I actually met a lovely young lady up at a race,
I said over the weekend that's from that group, and
I would fully recommend if you've got a bike, giving
them a message and joining up with them and finding
(27:38):
out where they go because they're a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Good on you, Michelle. Always appreciate your time. We'll chat
one last time before we finish up.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
For the year.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
Oh that's scary, isn't it? One last time and you.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Got two weeks to go enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Welcome back to the muster Tony Groves of Halo Training.
We caught up a few weeks ago with Tony and
we're going to have a follow up year and again
this afternoon, just to see how things have been in
a few weeks since. I mean, you talk about resilience
on farm and the likes, and Tony's got some great
things that he can implement as well through a course
that he's offering. Tony rocking to the muster once again.
Speaker 10 (28:23):
Hey, thanks mate, Thanks having me back.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
You're always good to catch up. Now we spoke up
about three or four weeks. We had to catch up
about three or four weeks ago. That should be and
really interested in getting an insight around some courses that
you're offering just for the uninitiated and those that missed it.
Talk about what Halo trainings about well, Halo.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
Training We initially we actually came about it by accident.
It wasn't something we set out to do intentionally. But
I joined the Australian Army as a young infantry soldier
of sixteen and a half when I signed up, and
I did eleven years there and then five years with
the private military company in Iraq and understand e symore
(29:01):
with the army, and when I came back home, I
found there was a real there was a real interest
in the leadership lessons that we'd learned overseas from business people.
I started out as just conversations and eventually it ended
up turning into our actual business because I was talking
when I integrated into the real world, just in the workforce.
(29:26):
I started complaining also about some of the things that
I've been seeing going on in terms of leadership, and
with a nudge from my wife, she said, well, we
said of complaining about it, if we know the answer,
we should set up a business. So we set up
HALO Training, which really focuses on the lessons that we
learned from the battlefield that apply directly to business and agriculture.
(29:49):
And agriculture came on a little bit later. To be honest,
we didn't set out to do ag either. We started
out teaching business in general, and we got more and
more farmers interested because they could see how many similarities
there were from farming and being an infantry soldier, being
out in the weather, hard work, no set hours, mental
(30:12):
health issues, a whole lot. So it really resonated as
a result. Halo Training we teach leadership for business, but
we also have a leadership and agriculture program called CHLF
Certified Halo Leader sorry chl AG Certified Halo Leader Agriculture
and it's a one year program that last year we
(30:35):
rented out a fair light station and this year we'll
be running out of farm lands at Mossbourn.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, it's an under recent correlation you bring there being
on the battlefield, but to the resilience of farmers in
the middle of September, for example, when the weather is
an on your side.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Yeah, that's right. It's like it's so similar if we're
out on an infantry patrol over se it doesn't matter
what the weather's doing. The job still has to happen.
And yeah, it impacts what we're doing. It makes it
a lot more difficult and it adds pressure, but we're
still we're out there in the environment all the time,
and we're away from our families as well. Right, we
(31:15):
may have touched on it last time, I'm not sure,
but something that's come up quite a lot from farmers
on our egg program. They talk about things like when
you guys are overseas, you're away from your family. As farmers,
we might not be away from our families geographically, but
our farms are quite large and we're always away from
our family for long periods of time. So there's actually
(31:36):
quite a common ground there as well.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Regarding HALO and your approach to the course of such Tony,
what's involved.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
Well, for our egg program, it's stretched out over the
course of a year, So we do a three hour
session once a month and we focus on just one
to each month. And this is actually designed from the
feedback or the input we are getting from farmers saying
that if they want to do a program on leadership,
(32:07):
they'll do communication here and they'll do resilience somewhere else.
And they said there was no one stop place where
you could go and get the whole suite. And that's
what this is all about. It we teach twelve subjects
over the course of a year, three hours each month,
and it's designed to be really quick and accessible, so
you can get off the farm for a few hours
(32:29):
and then go back to work again. And what we
really provide is structured approach, so there's like a leadership
operating system that farmers can adopt, not just themselves for
those who are on the program, but they can introduce
it to that farms and they can create leadership consistency
and structure through that process.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So it's only thirty six sails throughout the year. That
means it three hours a month about being Einstein, but
it's enough for people to get an understanding of what
they need to do from.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
A leadership perspective. Take it back to their perspective businesses.
Speaker 10 (33:02):
Yeah, that's exactly right. And what we do is, so
let's say the first month might be on strategic communication.
We have really simple, easy to recall tools and that's
actually something that we learned from the battlefield. A thesis
is great if there's a place for it, but when
you're on the farm in the moment, under pressure, you
(33:24):
need to be able to call the information you need
right here, right now, off the top of your head.
So if we're doing that communication approach that topic, then
what happens is we'll discuss it, we'll provide the tool,
they'll practice it in the class, and then after that,
between that month and the next month, they'll do a
(33:47):
short three to five minute case study on where they've
applied that tool back on the farm and what the
results were, and then they'll present it to the group
and everybody does it, and that way we hear the
perspectives from all you know, all the different farmers that
are in the program. So it's only through how you
get the tools, but you also have to go out
(34:07):
and practice them in the workplace. So we know that
the tools are getting applied because they have to present
them on the next session.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So the farmers that have been involved with your courses
in the past time you mus been the biggest takeaway
to take them from the from the overall set up.
Speaker 10 (34:23):
All right, it's actually quite interesting if there's really two.
The first and most common is, I had no idea
what leadership even was until I attended the program. A
lot of people, Yeah, I'm a farm manager. I know
exactly what I'm doing. And then when you come into
the class and you ask what is leadership? It starts
right there, what is leadership? And you know, we heard
(34:47):
from when we were overseas if we can't clearly articulate
what leadership is and how do we know we're doing it?
And what does good look like? So that was the
biggest takeaway is that. And then the second most common
point that gets brought up is the importance of structure.
So our communication tool is just three words as a guide,
and that's easy to remember and it helps me structure
(35:09):
what I need to communicate to my teams. And the
feedback that we've been getting about that is these tools
are so simple, they're so easy to use, and it's
changed everything on the farm because it covers all the
things that they need to communicate, but we keep it
packaged up in a really clear and concise message that's
not only easy for them to communicate, it's easy for
(35:32):
the team to interpret.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
How do people get involved?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
What where do they get in touch regading Halo Training
If they're can to actually go through and think about
what they need to do as far as leadership capabilities.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
They just come to our website at Halo Training dot
co dot MZ and go to our programs and you'll
see a certified Halo Leader Agriculture program and it's got
all the information there about the program and it starts
the next cohort starts in twenty nine Generary next year
at Moss Spernit farm Lands, and we've got a lot
(36:06):
of interest. Actually, if I've got a moment, yes, I
want to talk about four things that have come up.
You know, since the last time we spoke, we've had
quite a lot of people reach out to us, and
I find it really interesting as to why people are
reaching out to join the program. And the four points
was improve farm communication, which we're just talking about, creating
(36:28):
effective leader consistency, addressing personality clashes and team dynamics, and
helping their managers lead their team through adversity. So they
are the four primary reasons why people are signing up,
which I find really interesting that all have been around
these four points.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Halo Training, dot co, dot in zef anybody that's interested.
Tony Groves, thanks very much, your time on the muster
really interesting as usual.
Speaker 10 (36:53):
Okay, thanks a lot, and you really appreciated me.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Tony Groves of Halo Training once again, Halo Training, dot co,
dot m Z. If you want to look at leadership
capabilities and what you can achieve in a personal scale
as well, get in touch of Tony and team. Always
good to catch up. Murray Cobran's and studio. Next from
Mainland Minerals, we're going to find our salves, our winner
of this five hundred dollar prizzy card. Welcome back to
(37:29):
the Muster on Hokanui, now enjoyed in studio this afternoon
by Murray Cobran of Mainlir Minerals. Now thanks to Maine
Their Minerals, we've teamed up with him over the past
week to give you the opportunity to win a five
hundred dollars prazy card, and this afternoon we're going to
announce this lucky Winner. So Murray always good to catch up.
Speaker 11 (37:49):
How things Yeah great, Andy, Yeah, we just wanted to
do something special heading into Christmas with the five hundred
dollars Preezy card giveaway. Farmers have you had a massive
year this year, so this is just air way of
giving back. We're a local business and it's important to
us to support our own local community.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Absolutely, and there's been hundreds of entries as well. It's
been pretty really well supported.
Speaker 11 (38:14):
Yeah, it has, it's been. It's been fantastic. Actually, Lisa
doing our socials has done a fantastic job. And yeah,
loads of people I think over three hundre people have
put entries in so through through the mainland socials and
the Muster and hocken Ey Breakfast. So that's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And your mainly mineral page on Facebook. It's it's going great,
isn't it.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
It's going fantastic. Yeah, you know, things are things are
humming along. There is getting a lot of a lot
of views and all the things that I don't really
know what they are.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
We're about to ask you, how do you go have
social media? I don't imagine you'll have TikTok? Got that
I do either.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
I don't have TikTok, I don't have Facebook. I have
been looking at the way but Instagram just just for
the mainland side of it to see what's going on.
That's about it. But get scrolling, no doom scrolling ap
to do?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah it is?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah right, So without further ado, Murray, I'll give you
a drum roll and you can announce our winner today.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Who's our winner?
Speaker 11 (39:12):
Anna Holden? A big congratulations to her, thanks for getting involved.
She made a note that Jeep as my paddocks would
think it was Christmas with a visit from mainly minerals.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well there you go, I mean, and that's one of
the things you're.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Talking about when I give the gift of fertilizer for
your peeddix this season.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Absolutely so very good idea the Andy and Anna will
you will be in touch to get your prize sorted
and thanks to everyone who entered. We had an awesome response.
Keep an eye out for where there's more over the
next twelve days of FIRTNSS on our socials.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Twelve days ofs that's good.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, don't mind that your congratulations, Anna Holden. Somebody will
be in touch you enjoy that. Five hundred dollars Prazzy card.
Now anyway, the season is such, I mean, gee, a
bit of moist Some people want moistures, some people want sunshine.
Speaker 11 (40:03):
Oh what a season it's been. A spring has just
been one out of the box. We thought last year
couldn't get any worse and this one's been just another
layer on top of that. So, yeah, December has been
a very busy month on farm and also for mainland.
It's a good time to make sure you've got what
your needs sorted before everyone gets we shut down over
(40:23):
the break, So make sure you've got anything sorted before
that Christmas break if you need anything from mainland gives
a yell. We take a break from December the twenty third,
the Tuesday back on Wednesday, the seventh of gen.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
So how have you found a year?
Speaker 11 (40:38):
Oh, it's been a last year was outstanding. Year before
was probably the worst one we've had. The spring has
just been. Yeah, we've been going okay, but it's just
been a bit tricky with this weather. You know, farmers
have been sort of holding off when all that that
weather comes through September October and then capped it off
of that wind. As everyone knows that a bigger window
(40:59):
end twenty third October and then people have been hogging
into it since. So I think also the sheep and
beef guys, they are waiting to see what they get
in the bag with these prices, with good looking prices,
and they just want to make sure that actually eventuates.
So once they get that, they'll be into it. The
dairy guys are still just going gangbusters, are doing what
they were doing last year and they're doing well. So
(41:21):
it's really good. It's really positive.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
And one thing was saying over the rural community Murray,
especially over the past couple of months, is the way
that people get together in times of crisis, with these
ones we had just over six weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
You're luck at December.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
It's busy, we get that too, but you need to
make time for a wee bit of a break.
Speaker 11 (41:38):
I absolutely do it. It's so important that people take
a break over this, you know, just the odd day,
half a day, get off the farm, have a bit
of fun with family and friends and just connect with
people and get your head out of the game and
then you can get back in at fresher And that
same reason why we do that in mainland for a
couple of weeks, which is it's really really.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Important regarding mainland minerals as well.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
What's the point of difference if you guys.
Speaker 11 (42:04):
We just services there had Number one thing is getting
getting in alongside our clients, understanding what they're trying to
achieve and actually putting in a solid plan to make
sure that does happen. Because you know, the way the
sort of fertilized industry is going at the moment is
it's becoming more hands off, more through the internet. Just
(42:24):
just auder your product. But if you're not all the
right stuff to put on the right areas, then you're
actually thinking you're saving a buck, but you're actually costing
yourself in the long run, and that to me is
where it's a real concern. And I think that's why
having good experienced guys that we've got in their mainland
team is awesome. They know what they're doing. They rip
your rip your salt tests apart to make sure they
(42:47):
put the right stuff on the right area. And it's
not just sol tests. It can be more of the
eeration side of it, compaction, drainage, all those sort of
things as well, and they'll actually go out and walk
your fields and have a look at it. And that's
really important to get your head around that and having good, good,
bigger around the table. So you've got a trusted advisor
in your team. That's that's where our differences.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
And the thing is if decembreck goes from zero to
zero to one hundred, I mean one day it's spring rain,
neck manute, it's Christmas Eve and you're trying to do
everything around the house to appease the other half. So
sometimes you can't win, but you just got to put
things into consideration.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 11 (43:21):
Just you know, we always we always get there, so
just keep chipping away and and that's what we're doing
here at Mainland and we're helping helping guys get to
where they want to get too long term. So it's
just taking that long term view and with good people
around you, that's the key thing. Have some time out
and enjoy Christmas, have have fun over New Years, and
life goes on.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah the line you're written here as well, I reckon
Farmers and look forward to Boxing Day more than Christmas Day.
At least there's no ripping paper evolved. It's a fair assumption.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (43:51):
The other one we got here is of Sandy had
to do morning milking. He'd only visit in hiss on
On once.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Pretty much about it. Hey, always good to catch up
with you guys.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Murray, thanks once again for being involved. We've got a
great relationship absolutely, you guys have a great holiday your
Christmas season as such, and we'll catch up new Year.
And once again, congratulations to Anna Holden on wanting that
five hundred dollars Prizzy card. And always great to catch
up with you guys from Mainly Minerals.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Eh.
Speaker 11 (44:17):
Thanks, Andy have a great great man.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Good on you and you can hang around for this
because you're lucky enough. We've got to laugh out loud.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Here we go.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
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Speaker 4 (44:41):
I don't know why I laughing.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It ever, I just stay right anyway. Hey, good on you, Murray,
enjoy the weekend and it's good to catch up. Cheers
Marry Co brand of Mainly Minerals. It's great to catch
up with the team and of course, mess of congratulations
and are holding that five hundred dollars preezy card mainly minerals.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
You're only as good as you, dirt.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Let's ass over at double for the weekend. The best
of the Master five am tomorrow morning. The must podcast
going up surely on iHeartRadio. My name is Andy Muller.
This has been the muster rou on Hokinnu. He brought
to you by Peterson the Lex. Enjoy the weekend, see
him Monday,
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