December 7, 2025 • 44 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Penny Simmonds, Dean Rabbidge, Jason Pine and Alan McLeary.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the master on Hakanui. My
name's Andy Mueller. I'm here until two o'clock and the
show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Welcome along
to the afternoon, in which we see blue sky over
Main Street, a little bit of cloud on the horizon.
But Jesus tell you what last night, twenty degrees at
twelve thirty am this morning. If you're not used to it,
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it's certainly a shock to the system. And then we
had about seven or eight meals of rain here and
gore as well, so it was all go. We'll look
at the forecast shortly. The Boss Bruce Springsteen Good tunes.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm teffrom and soft text.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The proof is in the progeny tef from dot co
dot Inza. This afternoon cloudy, we're breezing northwesterlyes and the
high of nineteen Tuesday a cloudy were breezy northwesters eleven
and twenty two. Wednesday morning showers of sou easterly's forming
seven and seventeen. Thursday, light rain developing in the afternoon
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with breezes sol easterly six and eighteen and on Friday
but cool the morning showers with breezes. How Westerly's eight
and thirteen sowd temperatures to hand Clinton fourteen point three,
Harriet fourteen point five, Northern South and fifteenth Riverton fifteen
point seven to our fifteen point one, Totora fifteen point
three one to fourteen point eight at more than thirteen
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point one. Jamie King of Lake Roko starts us off
and the satin Damn farmers round up, followed by Penny Simmons,
MP from a Cargill and Minister for the Environment Dean
Rabbage Farms at Glenham. See how things are going for
Dean and he texted before and said he's taking a
different philosophy towards lamb sharing this season. Jason Pineer New
(01:54):
Stork zeb talks a bit of crack at the black Caps.
There are two bowlers down but they couldn't get the
job done. Soo West Indies who let's beyond and so
they deserve all the credit for the way they stuck
at it to get that draw and the ashes as well.
In basball, it's not really working for Brenda McCallum, is it?
And Alan McCleary how to shew our New Zealand as well,
So thatut further adue. We'll catch up next with Jamie King.
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You're listening to the must until two o'clock. We's to
Peter's genetics. You can start, you can't start fut. Jamie
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King farms over at Lake Heroco and joins us in
Sergeant Dan farming round that thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock
foods here in the main street of Gore. Good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Good mate. Here are we going today?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Ye're pretty good after an interesting weekend of weather. It's
been hot, it's been cold, it's been wet, it's been dry.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. And fuster Bruce us three days.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And finally looks at the weeds just sort of slowed
down and weave it and we're getting a bit of
guts about our feet again. Crops and young grasses that
are probably enjoying it though to be feed from all
the counts around the area.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So your season in general over there, how would you
raise it?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But the mate ups on down.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, like I said, we're still you know, still off
the back of a lot of well ground preep. Just
to tidy up after that, like I say, we got
another pasting in the spring, but no, we're going better there,
getting longer days and getting a few jobs ticked off
any young grass all and haven't quite started on crop
grand yet but yeah, I on a few cows so
they're plugging away. Got a few sheep leaned the east
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day and hendful of lambs away to the works, and
you know we're going pretty good when like I said,
we didn't get that while we were looking at ninety
miler around there on that Thursday last week for yesterday,
but we just are probably fifteen or twenty mil last night,
so probably just what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I think goorehead around about sex Mill last night
looking at my little used to grain gauge which seems
to do the job when the boys aren't filling it
up with the garden house. So that's open to interpretation.
So certainly it's been an interesting couple of weeks to
say the LISU suppose, and especially when you talk about
track to work and the lights.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, and we're arguably still for a quarter a
bit water IV I know quite a few goes soeuth
of waters looking for a bit of moisture. That's definitely
not wrong off the deck of these whistlies, and the
whistlies we when we cop a little bit of wind,
but then we get the fear the brand of the rain,
so we don't need any any more moisture. But this
heat can keep pugging around, Andy and get a bit
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of bottom and some cloves and leadiums gownd and keep
things plugging away.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
But then we just head over the hills. Over the hills.
He had Andy, Dennis, and he's just saying, look, we
just need sunshine for a week so we can get
the tractor going. It sounds like a totally different situation.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
He took a couple of guys up up the base
of there you kick that had feet in into them,
the same stuill. I thought we were rough down here
in the spring. But then you just catch up Indy
and another couple of guys up there, and you know
they got they're still still under the pump bit of
heeling up to do so. But we'll wait and see
what the season does. Hope it doesn't go drawing them
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up there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So how have you gone with waning or have you
started waning?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We just got to win a few of the cast
rage one line there the este Yeah, there's couple hundred
mbs drow on the truck and got with.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Some old us and that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So now the lambs looking really good, actually any probably
surprisingly good off and they felt really good, so we'll
just wait and see what they They tore it up
and getting rid of a few few kettles.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's always quite a good chick to get to. Andy.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Just at the moment, the beef schedule, it's plugging away
pretty nice. So making up for my loss of velvet income.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Mate, Well we're talking about the red meat prices at
the moment and certainly looking very buoyant for the season ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, it's nice, Andy, it's nice. It feels good mate, us.
You know, it feels like there's a bit more optimism.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Out the end.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
People are back to farm and not just dragging their
knuckles going to the motions as if he goes getting
caught back up with some ferret and looking forward and
having a bit of a play and you know even
as looks of ourselves, you know, you sort of those
jobs you've been archiving and we can get back to
it again and not for back of by interest rates
to mate. You know, there's a lot of us still
good mortgages, so it's good. It's yeah, we're looking forward
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to the next couple of years at least.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Be honest. Across the remate sector, people especially alliance suppliers,
just want things to carry on. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, we're just charging away. The schedule is pretty competitive
again the right or wrong, but no, and it's it's happening,
you know. On that note to you mate, there's you know,
we've got that critical mess problem and the plants are
trying to keep full, so we've got their procurement thing
going on, not hanging about for a couple of years
partickly with the sheep anywhere and somebody might have to
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swallow a big pill. I don't know where to leand up.
But at the mean, Thomas encoreage, you want to utilize
the good money and where we go?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Are you looking at your velvet situation given that it's
happening with the price not so much.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Made, it's not a big part of MOE coming lot.
We've only got one hundred and fifty odd, you know,
we've had them for thirty forty years. It was just
always that a little bit of money coming in before
Christmas to cover silla, gung grass and crop stuff. It's
obviously not really doing that this year, but like mate,
we did have some like Dave Stevens to the other day,
we've had some good years in the day with Andy.
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You know, you know we're one hundred and twenty hundred
and three dollars a kilo, So I think the day
thing it came quite all at all. It does four
bits quite quickly, but it does seem to come right
quite quickly. And there's all sorts of things you can
play one but I'll just pull the trigger on a
quite a big project here. We'll put another fifteen current
Lizarden eating up and put some more venis and horns
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on just for ease in the in the top of
the country. It's in the paulmy Keir numbers back just
a little bit just for for environmental reasons and in
other things. So yeah, but yeah, it's all of course oversification, Andy,
I think is the key, and that we definly do
the any finger polyer we haven't got a finger in
as a as a dairy farm. We keep plugging away
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now for the next couple of years. Made it might
be on the horizon maybe, but we'll wait and see, but.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's under is sing. You mentioned environmental reasons regarding count numbers.
What do you mean by that exactly?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Just wait springs, mate. You know I could argue, you know,
climate change is climate change or won't go as far
as sound global warming, but we're definitely water. Our Ryan
fills the same throughout the year, but our intensities are huge.
You know, we don't get to the farm n mos anymore.
We get twenties and thirties and there's some plenty of
base cats runn around. They always worning here to develop land,
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and we all cut over in the run country that
we did have. And I've sort of done their job now, Andy,
arguably I'm not. I'm just going to hold the numbers
back a little bit and I can see a better,
better probably margin. We're turning out of putting venice and
horns up there and just slightly stock it with them
versus a big, big care run around up there. So
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that's the sort of thinking behind that. And on that night, mate,
just because there's deaning cannot be he doesn't mean to
say you're to put a deer behind it. You can
put whatever you lock upon it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Of course, again you've just got a bit more fortification.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, and no, there's other.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Things around that too. You know, there's a lot of
wild here that on that side where I am, And yeah,
it takes a few boxes. And like I say, we're
probably lucky enough with returns and Beckham and straight talking.
So that's sort of been water around in the back
of the mornd for four or five years, and even
they've said twenty years ago. So I'm like, oh, well,
we can probably afford to do it this year. So
we're we'll climb into it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
As far as wild deer, how big a concern is
that for you?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I look, mate, we're surrounded by obviously fuel land, and
then we've got doc managed merely forrest behind us, and
we've got twenty in t odd kometers of uculpus south
of boundary right around us. So we are well hearsed
in the effects of wild animals and we're just keep hunting, mate.
We know our Telli's you know, we're going to take
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twenty three and four hundred year off the proper a year,
and we've just we've been in this game for thirty
years and you so you just got a farm with it,
work with it. So from the people out there that
aren't used to it though in the vendar and forestry
box where you can see what the up, you know
it's going to cause head aches, but you just got
to get onto it and think outside the box. It
doesn't turn into so much hunting, mate, that starts turn
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into peace control.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Jamie Ky of laker Roko, Thanks very much for your
time on the Muster throughout the year as well. Enjoy
the holiday season and we'll catch up in twenty twenty six.
I always appreciate your time, hey spot.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
On, appreciate that any tourist is out there, have a good,
good break and recharge the victories and let's roll on.
Twenty twenty five has been better than twenty twenty four,
so let's go twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Jamie King of laker Roko in the Sagean Dan Farming
round up. Thanks of course the Saturn Den and stock
foods here and Gore and just a further reminder as well,
the twenty twenty five National Velvet Competition and Ward's not
happening at the Escot Hotel and of the Cargo five
o'clock this Thursday. Penny Simmons is up next MP from
the Cargol and Minister for the Environment. You're listening to
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the muster. Welcome back to the Muster and the Cargo.
MP Penny Simmons joins us as well. She is Minister
for the Environment. Good afternoon, Penny. How are you?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. It's to be chaffing. So I'm
still down here and in Vagol today going up tonight.
They've put the late flights on over summer, which is great.
I can spend a full day in the Electris and
go up at six thirty at night, get up there
at nine point forty, So I'm very pleased.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So you'll have to go via christ Church I suppose.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yes, yeah, yeah, no direct flights.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, good on New Zealand anywhere. That's the matter for
another day.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Heyns.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So we talk about free trade agreements, Penny. This has
been quite at the hot topic over the past twelve months,
especially getting that free trade agreement over the line with India.
Tom mcclay's over there at moment, putting in the effort.
How realistic is that we're going to get perhaps red
meat and an FTA to make it meaningful for real? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, look I think he's doing his level best for us.
He's done some great work with free trade agreements. He
did their fastest free trade agreement that's ever been done
for the country earlier this year. Of course, we've got
the UAE and the Golf States one that's been really good.
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The Indian one's look, it's going to be a tricky one,
but he's up there at the moment. He's up there
this week really pushing things hard for us. He had
his counterpart from India down with him a couple of
weeks ago. He's very aware as the Agriculture Minister how
important it is to get some significant agricultural wins for us.
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So let's hope that red meat one that he can
really get something included there. And I know that the
ambition from the Prime Minister and for Todd is to
have an India a free trade with India before the
end of this term.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now yours qualified to talk about this as any one
penny given you a history of siit was there a
lot of I don't know, hesitancy from India regarding New
Zealand based on the way we treated overseas students during
the COVID COVID era.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
No look, I think they are very keen to be
able to get their students into here. They're very keen
to have smooth pathways for their students for work visas.
So no doubt that will be part of the discussion.
The Indian students make up big numbers at our universities
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and polytechnics. They are second behind China, so they are
important to us and we want to make sure the
smooth pathways there as well.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So it's pretty harmonious as far as Indian students come
into New Zealand. It's a z all kosher, yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Look, you know, there's always things that have to be
thoroughly checked out in terms of finances and credibility of qualifications,
but they are what in immigration New Zealand has to
check out anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now, this is a good news story, Penny. It came
out late last week farm plastics recycling scheme guess the
green light because this has been a real point of
contention for farmers. What are the finer details of this
that people need to know?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, so, look, this is formalizing something that has been
a voluntary scheme that's been run by a couple of
industry players, and we're combining that and now making it
a compulsory scheme because they had sort of plateaued with
the voluntary scheme of how many were engaging in it,
and that meant there were some free riders in terms
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of their importers of the plastics. So this now becomes
a compulsory scheme. It pulls together to existing industry driven
voluntary schemes and ensures that the payment is made upfront
as the importers bring the products or the plastics into
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the country. And so therefore the scheme, the farmer, the
end user doesn't have to pay for it. They will
be collected. The plastics will be collected and taken away,
so that's the bail wraps and silid sheets and agrichemical
containers will be taken away for recycling. We're struggling a
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bit to get recycling viable here in New Zealand, but
at this stage they are going offshore for recycling. But
we have had recycling available. You'll be aware Recycle South
has palletizer and macarewa that we're hopeful in the future
that that might become viable again. Now that this scheme
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will ensure the feedstock for it. Because it's that continuity
of feedstock of the plastics coming in, that can be
the issue.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, that was the intriguing thing after the last local
body election, Penny. All of a sudden puff, the stroke
of a pen, and we had recycling here in Gore.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yes, well that's good, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, But it was random who had just appeared out
of the blue.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Well, I'm going out to have a look at the
lime Hill site. I think it's week after next, next
week or the week after next before Christmas anyway, because
what they are doing out there where a lot of
our landfill goes to, is extremely forward looking. They capture
the gas and they use it to drive the lot.
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So I'm very keen to see that. But of course
we do want to keep those plastics and those big
bulky containers that don't break down, we'd want to keep
them out of landfill. And so that's the value of
the recycling scheme.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now we're saying here in the pressure last week, the
industry lead scheme will bring the existing programs into a
single national system, offering free to use, simple and accessible
services for all users of in scope agrichemicals and farm plastics.
The key phrase there, Penny is free to use. How
far is this going to go?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yes, So look, that's why the cost is built on
at the front for the ones that are importing the products,
importing the plastics coming into the country. Our expectation is
because it's such a small amount that they won't pass
it on to the end users, to the farmers and
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the growers. But the scheme, the actual pickup scheme and
the recycling is free to the farmers and the growers.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So it's going to be compulsory for farmers to be
part of this.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
It's compulsory for the importers to be part of it.
So it's not compulsory for the farmers, but it is
compulsory for the import But we believe that farmers as
good stewards of their land and of the environment, they
will want to if it's a free pickup, they will
want to have their plastics picked up rather than having
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to burn or bury them. And so that's where the
engagement with the farmers occurs, not making mandatory pick up,
but that it's free. So why wouldn't you do it?
Save you the job of having to try and get
rid of it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, we'll stand by to see how this pans out
just finally, Penny, how busy is the week for your
he heed?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, the next week ahead is very busy because it's
going to be urgency, so we'll probably be there till
midnight on Saturday night, so that'll be midnight, will be
ten o'clock Tuesday, and then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday will
be midnight. So it's a busy weekends. We try and
get a lot of legislation through over the next while.
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People will be aware that the Resource Management Acts Replacement
X coming up this week, so there's going to be
plenty of big, chunky things happening up in Parliament this
coming week.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, good on your penny. Always good to catch up.
We'll catch up one final time this year next week.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Bye you. Penny Simons, MP from v Cargo as well
as Minister for the Environment. You're listening to the muster
up next we're away to Glenham and we're catching up
with Dean Rabbage. The musters on the farm brought to
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you by Southland District Council working together for a better Southland.
Dean Rabbage Farms at Glenham and joins us this afternoon.
Da good afternoon. How's everything down in Yournich of the Woods?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Good afternoon, and yeah, very good at the moment speak.
It's just a lot like the the rest of the province,
penny feed and during these warm temperatures. But win could
bugger off. Really it's getting a bit tiring. But apart
from that, everything's looking pretty good and checking up for
a good summer.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah that wind, that's red. It's ugly head over the
last couple of days once again.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, I see there's a notification this morning on the
phone that the school bus had to take a detour
because the trees over the road again. So I suspect
that were's still a lot of trees that have had
root systems weakened, and that from the from the event
we had at the end of October, so that could
still be upsetting a few, but something to keep an
eye on.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So everything's just taking away. All the lambs have been waned.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh look, we just started winning this morning. We just
did the two eternal twins, got them out of the road,
and Wednesday we'll have a big crack at all the
terminal lambs and hopefully get off whack of them away
and then we'll Chiff Way the rest of them eternals
over the next few days really, So yeah, just silence
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steady ones of the restaurant here when it comes to winning.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
High hopes for numbers away, you're just pretty pragmatic around
the situation.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Look, we're not going to go chasing big numbers. We'll
keep their weights up a little bit high on target,
sort of an average evading kilos, and we'll try and
maintain the average right across the season. Really, I think
at times at winning, just the way payment structures work
in the sector, that we can be guilty of chasing
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the money and the average weights dropped considerably, and I
don't think it's doing industry an You're good and providing
a consistent product throughout the year, which is unfortunate. So yeah,
we'll just keep the bar reasonably high, plenty of feed
and still building up new numbers. So we've but slightly
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understocked for us compared to normal. We'll care on putting
the weight on I think this year.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So you're not worried about stores or anything giving them money.
Where is where it is, the covers are where you
want them to be, I suppose, Yeah, Like and just.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Talking people and then to see I don't think we're
going to see the big schedule drops like we've seen
in the past, and I'm probably be proven wrong, but
at the moment, I'm yeah, still happy. Just we'll keep
those trying to kelly anything that's going to kill above
seventeen and a half and try and average eight and
kido's or something like that. So there's the planet of
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the stage. But yeah, happy to be well, more likely
to be proven wrong as usually him and regret something,
but that's the planet of the stage. Now.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You were telling me before, you're not crushing your lambs
this year. You're going to take a part. You're going
to get the feathers off them next week.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I just wanted to sharing contractor the end as
I was whening them. All the lambs are still very
clean and that so we normally fear everything of January
January any way, so why not do it now? There's
plenty of will on them. They're a good neck in
your feet around and then that'll eliminate heaving to dip
anything and fly strike prevention and all that sort of
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stuff later on, and crushing before sharing as well. In
a month's time, So all going to plan. There is
a bit of a spread of the moment decision this
morning as we're wedding, but we'll do that next week.
But they only hold up we've got is that my wall.
She currently doesn't have a roof, so yeah, just trying
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to sort out a few logistics and well we'll give
it a crack and see what happens. Anyway, that's what
happens in the North Island and it seems to work.
We all for them, so I don't see why we
can't do it down here.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
But well this is Southland.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, I know, I know anything can change. Yet I'll
talk to you in a few weeks time and the
plan will have completely changed. But this plan at the moment,
oh nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
A big old tap can't hold for a couple of days, right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see. It's going to be fine. It's
going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So in general though, and you were saying it before
as well, the way that wolves rebounded hearing likes of
dirty price for crossbred wall being over three dollars.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, it's quite encouraging, isn't it. We just then you'll
share or their use in genuary and they normally share
in that four kilos of walls. So yeah, look, it's
quite positive. I think at least the sharing bill is
going to be more than covered this year just looking
at it. So yeah, we'll just carry on and try
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and maintain a high quality club and give it the
works over the cable like we have been, like we
always have. And yeah, hopefully we'll see a bit of
a positive or a black figure at the bottom of
the wall budget this year.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, certainly it's not. It's a silver ball at the
industry needs. By no means is going to fix the industry.
Let's been clear about that. But it's all small steps.
I suppose, it's like eating an elephant, just so little bites.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, exactly, and once we start plucking de trope again
the ball thing today, So you tell.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
The younger generation that land and see what they come
up with their idea. Yeah, I know, I know, but
that'd be a great problem to have. But mutton prices too,
they've rebounded strongly, just a red meat sector in general.
Venison schedules are up there, red meats up there. We
talk about beef, we talk about mutton, we talk about lamb.
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So it's a good vibe heading into Christmas.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, I was just flocking through map on the phone
looking at weights and prices we're getting for product this
time last year and Mutton was four seventeen and Lamb
dot Lamb was eight o six. It was that was
last week in November then, so it probably would have
come back by now. But yeah, so this year we're
talking sort of six forty and around there eleven dollars
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for Lamb. So it's pretty positive out there and it's
really exciting and yeah, it's fantastic and it's a shame
it's probably eighteen months too late because we've lost a
lot of sheep and beef out of the system across
the country. But yeah, in mind, it's really good and
a positive, positive space going into Christmas.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Hey, we talk about the Arima changes as well that
are in the pipeline of counsel amalgamations to follow on
after that from this central government directive. What are your thoughts?
Is it good?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh, look, it's good that it's been locked there and
it's been torn apart and rebuilt. I guess the devil
will be in the detail and yeah, that's still a
lot of detail to expose itself, I guess, But I
just hope whatever happens, it is by partisan support, and
we're not just going to see the IMA becoming a
political football and getting revamped every three years, because that'll
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just lead to a huge waste and costs and bureaucracy
and probably not achieve anything. At the end of the day.
We'll just be continuously living in a state of say
the limbo. So yeah, look excited to see what comes out.
Hopefully it'll be positive and make farming and land uses
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quite beneficial moving forward. But yeah, it just whatever happens
just needs to be supported and be allowed to be
had done for a few years before massive changes happened again.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Really yeah, interesting how it's going to pan out. Dean, Hey,
we'll leave it there mate, Thanks for your time once again,
we always appreciate your time on the muster. Enjoy the
holidays and good luck getting that tarp up for sharing.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Thanks Ruch Sheylad.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Dean rabbitge Farming at Glenham. Ye're listening to the muster
before the end of the hour. Alan McCleary from Sheerwell,
New Zealand. Up next, so Jason Pine from news Dog
ZIBB The Black Caps The Drawer that Got Away. This
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is a muster on Hakanui. Jason Pine his host on
Weekend Sport on News Dog Zibb Piney, good afternoon, a
big weekend to crack out and arguably the West Indies
they found a real good backbone they haven't had for
a very long time and to be on with you as.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Always year So I think a lot of us when
the West Indies you know, were announced as turants at
the front end of our summer, thought that the Test
Series might be a bit of a damp squib, that
they might be perhaps you know, a reasonable white ball side,
but the Test side has in the last few years
really failed to max to the exports of their white
ball teams, their T twenty team in particular. But yeah,
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some backbones at Hagleyoval on Saturday on day five when
you know, admittedly New Zealand bowling attack was under strength
with no Matt Henry and no Nathan Smith available on
the last day, so I've made a lot of toil
for those who were left. But you're still going to
stay out there, you know, and for the West Indies
to rack up four hundred and plenty and save the
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Test and take it to Wellington all square with two
to play. I think surprised a lot of people. And
it's going to be hard for New Zealand at the
base in reserve because now we know that there's no
Nathan Smith or Matt Henry or Mitchell Satner as well
as Tom Blundell all missing for the base in reserve test.
So the depth of our seam bowling stocks in particular
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is going to be quite severely tested in Wellington.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Jacob Duffy, he's excelled in the short form game. How's
he going in the test format? Do you think he's
something that he's somebody who could actually step up there
and perhaps look ahead to next year going to Australia.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Well, he's going to have to, isn't he.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
That's the thing. He's going to have to lead the line.
I think Matt Henry, we all agree, is the spare
ahead of our bowling attack. But he can't do it
by himself and with no Willow Rourke at the moment,
no Carle Jamison, Jacob Duffy is going to get the
new ball. You know, he and Zack Folks are going
to open up with a new ball in Wellington. So yeah,
I think Jacob Duffy has a brilliant opportunity to show
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the selectors and New Zealand cricket fans that he's an
all format bowler, that he's not just a white ball specialist.
He's been around the first class scene and he as
you know, down your neck of the woods for a
long time twenty twelve years, Yeah, and has always been,
you know, a guy who at provincial level has excelled.
So yep, he's fold plenty of plenty of the liveries
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with the red ball. Looking forward to seeing how he
goes in Wellington.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Is there a chance of fatigue though? I mean Duffy
bowled a lot of overs, folks did, oh, so how
are we going to how are we going to front
up though with only a couple of days Grace.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Yeah, it's a good question, and you're right, I think.
I think Duffy bold forty odd overs and that second
innings folks the same thirty odds. So yeah, look as
a matter of how they how they come through I guess,
and they recover test us. It starts on Wednesday, so
once we get there, and who knows, maybe we'll bat
first anyway, so that'll be another a day or two
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opportunity for them to refresh. But yeah, it'll it'll it'll
be a test, an absolute test, and that's what they're called,
and the test matches that they're supposed to test.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now, we're looking ahead to the black Caps going to
Australia next year, as it talked about before. But look,
this Australian team is so good and especially on their
own decks bas ball England coming over there and just saying, look,
we're going to take you on with our brand of cracket.
But it is fair to say this is spectacularly back
firing for Berenda McCollum.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Yeah, I think Australia are just a better side.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I think, man for man, they're just a better team
than England, you know. And yes the approach has been
talked about a lot. I think they were a bit
more circumspect at the Gabba than they were in Perth
where it was just suicidal on occasion. But you know,
they got to the Gabba and they applied themselves a
little bit more in the in the first innings in particular,
and Joe Root with a century there was good to see.
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But I just think Australia are a better team and
they're still missing a couple as well. Pat Cumman's not
there and Josh hazel Wood still has to come back,
know Nathan Lyon in this test. So yeah, look this
ashes could be wrapped up before Christmas, couldn't it. They
go to Adelaide next before the Boxing Day Test in
Melbourne and then the Fifth Test in Sydney. Look, we
might get to Christmas and the ashes have been secured
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by Australia. So look, as I say, I just think
they are a very good cricketing side with plenty of
debt and lots of lots of batting power. You know,
much as we might be intimidated by that, I still
can't wait for that four Test series next summer.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, it's going to be fantastic. But I mean you
talk about their batting depth as well. Nathan McSweeney, he's
on the verge of the Test side. He makes two
hundred and twenty six night out against the Lions eleven,
which is effectively the second England side. So they've got
depth for Africa.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
That's always been the case over there, hasn't it. You know,
Sheffield Shield is very competitive the domestic first class competition,
and you know it often takes a while for a
player to get into the Test team, they have to
score a lot of runs at Sheffield Shield level before
they even get considered for the Test side. And I
think of a guy like Michael Hussey. He scored thousands
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and thousands of runs at Sheffield Shield level before he
was even close to the Australian side, and then we
know what he went on to do. So yeah, they
produce a lot of good batters over there on those
hard and fast decks, and yeah, I can't see that
changing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, Mike Cassi close to ten thousand runs domestically before
he got his call out. Now, the FIFA World Cap
draw was held over the week ked the all Whites Belgium,
Egypt and Iran in their group. How do you view this?
Is this a positive?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I think so?
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Yeah, I think it's a good draw. Could have been
a lot worse than that, could have been better. I
guess if you had your absolute ideal and you could
have you know, picked the balls out yourself and put
us in a group with who we know absolutely would
have liked to face. But I think it's a good draw.
You know, we were always going to have a tough
game when a team from Pot one came out, you know,
one of the top nine or ten sides in the world.
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That's if we didn't draw one of the co hosts,
which we didn't, so Belgium. You know, they're not a
glamorous team. They're not in England or in Argentina or
a Brazil You know, I almost feel us though. That
game's a bit of a free hit, and it's the
other two that New Zealand will absolutely target to try
and get results from. Iran a twentieth in the world
at the moment, Egypt are thirty fourth a reference, we're
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eighty six. But the thief of rankings once you get
beyond about number thirty, you can throw a blanket over
a lot of teams really, and especially in not one
of situation. The other part of this, which is really
really encouraging is the venue for New Zealand's matches. One
game in Los Angeles and two up in Vancouver, so
the western seaboard of North America accessible for New Zealand fans.
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There are direct flights to both of those cities from Auckland,
So anybody who was maybe thinking about the World Cup
and going over to support the All Whites and we're
waiting to see whether they ended up somewhere over on
the East coast, or there were three different venues, or
down in Mexico or whatever it was. They can now say, well,
actually it's a direct flight from Auckland to Vancouver, a
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direct flight from Auckland to Los Angeles. Maybe we will
go up there and watch them. Temperatures are much better
on the West Coast as well in June and July
than some of those southern states where temperatures tend to
get into the mid thirties. So all in all, Andy,
I think it's a really positive drawer. And now we
know who the all whites are facing, they can set
about planning to get the best results they can out
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of those three games.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And just finally, Jason sam Ruth running records fifteen hundred meters.
He's breaking records all over the show. This guy looks
the real deal.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Incredible, incredible what he is doing at his age. You
look at the New Zealand secondary school records for the
fifteen hundred and eight hundred meters that he beat over
the weekend. He didn't just beat the many, he obliterated
those records. That fifteen hundred meters record has stood for
thirty nine years, sorry, thirty six years anyway, it's in
the thirties. Richard Potts set that record back in nineteen
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eighty nine, and ironically enough, he was there giving Sam
Ruth his split times as he went past the belly
or you know, the start finish line each time. That
was a nice little layer. But Sam Ruth beat his
record by eight seconds eight seconds in the fifteen hundred meters.
That's not just you know, beating the record, that is
absolutely smashing it. And in the eight hundred he was
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also three and a half four seconds quicker than the
previous record holder. So this kid, at the age of
sixteen is running faster than Peter Smell did, and John
Walker did, than Rod Dickson Nick Willis did at the
same mate. Look, you don't want to pump a young
boys ties up too much, but what he's doing at
the moment is not normal, absolutely not normal, and it
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will be tremendously exciting to follow the progress of the
sixteen year old Sam Ruth. It's a name to remember,
and who knows.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What he might go on to achieve.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Good on your pony, Always appreciate your time and as
you have done over the year. Free, come on free,
and we'll do it again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
All the best to you and your family for a
RESTful and relaxing holiday season, and to all your listeners
as well. Look forward to catching up in an exciting
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Jason Pine of news Dog ZB, host of the weekend
Sport Before we wrap up, Alan McCleary of Sharewoun, New
Zealand seventy I'm sure man, welcome back to the muster.
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Bruce Springsteen is the music, the rising hell of a
great song. The this'd be perfectly honest. Alan McCleary of Sheerwell,
New Zealand joins us. Next. Good afternoon, Alan, Where do
we find you this afternoon?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Well, season's greetings there, Chap, And I'm actually at home today.
I'm doing a fear bit of phone work and emailing
and catching up before the end of Christmas. So yeah,
busy enough.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
The year's gone pretty quickly when you think.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
About it, it has, you know, and this last half
I don't know it's just old age or what, but man,
she's fair, hum and ground, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Tell me about it? I think mentally I'm still back
in August, but that's the matter for another day. But
the first thing gets this, gets something clear, right, you
need a GPUs for Christmas, sir, because we went up
to the farmer's shouts have a niger woodheads there just
on a couple of weeks ago. Fantastic event as well.
But one person who knows every road in South Otago
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like the back of his hand, God has lost.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
I spent a wee bit of time in Ireland and
never lost. You just haven't reached your destination yet. I
was only given the directions. I wasn't driving, so don't
lame it all on me, mate.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Landy Fraser was doing his due diligence, just guiding us
with your hand said, aye, yet go here? I know
we go up here? Yea aye yet no, you're right.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Well, to be fair, I did realize when we got
there that we were in the wrong spot. Give me
credit for that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Lucky you can do three point turns and gateways. That's
the main thing. But look, that was a great event.
So what's been having over the past couple of weeks? Mate?
Have you been doing cold calling up driveway to connecting
with farmers? What's the go I am, I am.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
We're yeah. Normally yeah to a weave. It tricky in December,
everybody's weaning and trying to make bailage and get paddock's work,
so it is a wee bit tricky. But you know,
we're still doing a fever bit of cold calling. We're
still getting new customers. Yeah, I've done a bit of tagging.
We went, we're trialing out a bit of new gear.
So I've been tagging a few years and tagging some cattle.
(38:56):
So yeah, hopefully in the new year that we'll be
to tell you all about that. But it was, yeah,
looking good, so you and I'm still out getting my
hands dirty.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
So you've got no time to get on that hand piece.
It's just the busy season, just a busy sea.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah no, no, I haven't really been on at a
talk so for full ball with the sheerwell.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Mate, yeah, well shearwell New Zealand you're looking at tagging
options for the kettle of the sheep. It makes a
lot of sense. How's things been over the last couple
of weeks from your perspective though, Ellen.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Look, we're still really busy, even though December there's not
a lot of tagging done in December, we've had a
lot of orders go out, people getting ready for the
new year and that. So yeah, look they're well up
again and Ray's looking at well, we're looking at getting
another another printer, just so that we can keep up
that good turnaround, that really good service that we're known for.
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So that's pretty important to us. If we can get
those tags out within days of the farmer ordering them,
that's that's what we're all about.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So, I mean, the elves are busy doing presents all
the year round, but raising the office doing tags year
round and argibly you get them quicker than something from
the north pole.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Yeah it's a bit taller than an alf though, but
I must I must have a good look at them
next time I see them, and you could have the gears.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, that's the unique thing about shear our tags, Alan McCleary,
is that they come in different colors, a lot illuminous
colors these days, I think the word is or brighter colors,
and just not just sheet tags, but kettle tags as well.
So you've covered all spectrums of the tagging industry.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
We are we are And I don't know whether I
mentioned last time. But we've got the new yellow out.
It should be here or well, let's say after Christmas
to be safe. But yeah, the new yellow. They've worked
on the brightness of that and it looks really good.
So yeah, they're delivering on that, and just on those
tags too, like they don't all have to go and stop.
We sell quite a few. We sold some to a
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helicopter firm there we while ago. They're going to put
them in some of their gear and security fencing. So yeah,
a dive company, they've got our EID tags on all
their kits. When they hop in the water, they got
all their gear on, and when they hop back out,
they can scan them and make sure they haven't left
their you know, their diving belt or whatever behind. So
there's lots and lots of uses for them.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I remember going into a public's upon a time and
all their handles had sheet tags on them, so they
knew which was which.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, what's that called the beer club
or something that's called in it the handles club?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yeah, I know, we've supplied a few for them, mainly
up north because you know, we're all teetotalers down here.
But yeah, you just never know where those tags are
going to end up sometimes.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, I thank you some inverted commas on that tee
takeless statement there.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Ell.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
Yeah, they didn't serve any at the beer do the
other night, didn't they, But that some of those farmers
were still there at after one o'clock in the morning,
So it was quite.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
A quite a well social occasion.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Yeah, I was trying to find a plot word mate.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Well, that's what you've got to have at this time
of year, and it's some beauty of being in the
farming industry. It's it's about the lead up to Christmas. Yes,
it's busy, but at the same time you get these
opportunities to go and catch up.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
It was and look we did catch up in a
lot of people.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
It was.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
It was good one. There was a lot there and
we all had a good yarn and it was a
great afternoon really, so well done the lead.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Up to Christmas. Have you got to set off date
that you park up the wheels on those tires of
that truck of yours and never stops running And do
you take an extended break or what's the plan?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Yeah, I don't think too many cockies want to see
me on Christmas Eve. Actually, don't think too many cockies
want to see me full stop.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Sometimes as long as you don't turn up Christmas Day,
you're probably all right.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
No, no, no, no, I'm a big Christmas boy. You know,
I'm got to be at home for center. So but
now we look, we'll park up probably about about the
twenty twenty first summer in there. I think farmers are
pretty well. Yeah, they don't need me coming up your
driveway annoying them. There's plenty of other things I can
be doing, so they'll be safe from the from about
the twentieth one was they can probably be probably be safe.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Share we our New Zealand. If people wanted to get
in touch, same old story. Your social media channels are
pretty active. But what's the number to get in touch
on the McCleary to talk sheet tags.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Well, if you want to to me, you go two
seven two three two double four, double eight or ray
is eight hundred and seven triple nine eight nine, and
you'll always get one of us.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Get on you, Ellen, now we'll leave you on the
line for this. You lucky thing.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Here we go laugh out around with ag proud because
life on the land can be a laughing matter brought
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Speaker 1 (43:25):
Here we Go. A woman was cranky because her husband
was late coming home again. She decided to leave a
note saying I've had enough and I've left. You don't
bother coming after me. Then she head under the bed
to see his reaction. After a short while, the husband
comes home and she could hear him in the kitchen.
Before he comes into the bedroom, she could see him
walk towards a dresser and pick up the note. After
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a few minutes, he wrote something on it before picking
up the phone and calling someone. She's finally gone, yeah,
I know about bloody time. We're comeing to see you.
You put on that ninety oo a caw' wait to
see you. It's got to be great fun. And then
he hung up, grabbed his keys and left. She heard
the car drive off. She came out from under the bed,
seething with rage, with tears in her eyes. She grabbed
a note to see what he wrote. I can see
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your feet. We're out of bread. I'll be back in
five minutes.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
I don't think I'll try that.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Probably not. Ellen McCleary. Hate always good to catch up
and we'll check with you again before the end of
the year. Here on the muster rightio.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Season's greetings and thanks everybody.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Catch up Ellen McCleary is sure we are New Zealand
wrapping up the muster of the podcast going up shortly
join the boat, see you tomorrow one o'clock
Good afternoon, and welcome to the master on Hakanui. My
name's Andy Mueller. I'm here until two o'clock and the
show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. Welcome along
to the afternoon, in which we see blue sky over
Main Street, a little bit of cloud on the horizon.
But Jesus tell you what last night, twenty degrees at
twelve thirty am this morning. If you're not used to it,
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it's certainly a shock to the system. And then we
had about seven or eight meals of rain here and
gore as well, so it was all go. We'll look
at the forecast shortly. The Boss Bruce Springsteen Good tunes.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm teffrom and soft text.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The proof is in the progeny tef from dot co
dot Inza. This afternoon cloudy, we're breezing northwesterlyes and the
high of nineteen Tuesday a cloudy were breezy northwesters eleven
and twenty two. Wednesday morning showers of sou easterly's forming
seven and seventeen. Thursday, light rain developing in the afternoon
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with breezes sol easterly six and eighteen and on Friday
but cool the morning showers with breezes. How Westerly's eight
and thirteen sowd temperatures to hand Clinton fourteen point three,
Harriet fourteen point five, Northern South and fifteenth Riverton fifteen
point seven to our fifteen point one, Totora fifteen point
three one to fourteen point eight at more than thirteen
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point one. Jamie King of Lake Roko starts us off
and the satin Damn farmers round up, followed by Penny Simmons,
MP from a Cargill and Minister for the Environment Dean
Rabbage Farms at Glenham. See how things are going for
Dean and he texted before and said he's taking a
different philosophy towards lamb sharing this season. Jason Pineer New
(01:54):
Stork zeb talks a bit of crack at the black Caps.
There are two bowlers down but they couldn't get the
job done. Soo West Indies who let's beyond and so
they deserve all the credit for the way they stuck
at it to get that draw and the ashes as well.
In basball, it's not really working for Brenda McCallum, is it?
And Alan McCleary how to shew our New Zealand as well,
So thatut further adue. We'll catch up next with Jamie King.
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You're listening to the must until two o'clock. We's to
Peter's genetics. You can start, you can't start fut. Jamie
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King farms over at Lake Heroco and joins us in
Sergeant Dan farming round that thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock
foods here in the main street of Gore. Good afternoon, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Good mate. Here are we going today?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Ye're pretty good after an interesting weekend of weather. It's
been hot, it's been cold, it's been wet, it's been dry.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. And fuster Bruce us three days.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And finally looks at the weeds just sort of slowed
down and weave it and we're getting a bit of
guts about our feet again. Crops and young grasses that
are probably enjoying it though to be feed from all
the counts around the area.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So your season in general over there, how would you
raise it?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But the mate ups on down.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, like I said, we're still you know, still off
the back of a lot of well ground preep. Just
to tidy up after that, like I say, we got
another pasting in the spring, but no, we're going better there,
getting longer days and getting a few jobs ticked off
any young grass all and haven't quite started on crop
grand yet but yeah, I on a few cows so
they're plugging away. Got a few sheep leaned the east
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day and hendful of lambs away to the works, and
you know we're going pretty good when like I said,
we didn't get that while we were looking at ninety
miler around there on that Thursday last week for yesterday,
but we just are probably fifteen or twenty mil last night,
so probably just what the doctor ordered.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, I think goorehead around about sex Mill last night
looking at my little used to grain gauge which seems
to do the job when the boys aren't filling it
up with the garden house. So that's open to interpretation.
So certainly it's been an interesting couple of weeks to
say the LISU suppose, and especially when you talk about
track to work and the lights.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, and we're arguably still for a quarter a
bit water IV I know quite a few goes soeuth
of waters looking for a bit of moisture. That's definitely
not wrong off the deck of these whistlies, and the
whistlies we when we cop a little bit of wind,
but then we get the fear the brand of the rain,
so we don't need any any more moisture. But this
heat can keep pugging around, Andy and get a bit
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of bottom and some cloves and leadiums gownd and keep
things plugging away.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
But then we just head over the hills. Over the hills.
He had Andy, Dennis, and he's just saying, look, we
just need sunshine for a week so we can get
the tractor going. It sounds like a totally different situation.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
He took a couple of guys up up the base
of there you kick that had feet in into them,
the same stuill. I thought we were rough down here
in the spring. But then you just catch up Indy
and another couple of guys up there, and you know
they got they're still still under the pump bit of
heeling up to do so. But we'll wait and see
what the season does. Hope it doesn't go drawing them
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up there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So how have you gone with waning or have you
started waning?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
We just got to win a few of the cast
rage one line there the este Yeah, there's couple hundred
mbs drow on the truck and got with.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Some old us and that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So now the lambs looking really good, actually any probably
surprisingly good off and they felt really good, so we'll
just wait and see what they They tore it up
and getting rid of a few few kettles.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
That's always quite a good chick to get to. Andy.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Just at the moment, the beef schedule, it's plugging away
pretty nice. So making up for my loss of velvet income.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Mate, Well we're talking about the red meat prices at
the moment and certainly looking very buoyant for the season ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, it's nice, Andy, it's nice. It feels good mate, us.
You know, it feels like there's a bit more optimism.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Out the end.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
People are back to farm and not just dragging their
knuckles going to the motions as if he goes getting
caught back up with some ferret and looking forward and
having a bit of a play and you know even
as looks of ourselves, you know, you sort of those
jobs you've been archiving and we can get back to
it again and not for back of by interest rates
to mate. You know, there's a lot of us still
good mortgages, so it's good. It's yeah, we're looking forward
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to the next couple of years at least.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Be honest. Across the remate sector, people especially alliance suppliers,
just want things to carry on. Now.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, we're just charging away. The schedule is pretty competitive
again the right or wrong, but no, and it's it's happening,
you know. On that note to you mate, there's you know,
we've got that critical mess problem and the plants are
trying to keep full, so we've got their procurement thing
going on, not hanging about for a couple of years
partickly with the sheep anywhere and somebody might have to
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swallow a big pill. I don't know where to leand up.
But at the mean, Thomas encoreage, you want to utilize
the good money and where we go?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Are you looking at your velvet situation given that it's
happening with the price not so much.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Made, it's not a big part of MOE coming lot.
We've only got one hundred and fifty odd, you know,
we've had them for thirty forty years. It was just
always that a little bit of money coming in before
Christmas to cover silla, gung grass and crop stuff. It's
obviously not really doing that this year, but like mate,
we did have some like Dave Stevens to the other day,
we've had some good years in the day with Andy.
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You know, you know we're one hundred and twenty hundred
and three dollars a kilo, So I think the day
thing it came quite all at all. It does four
bits quite quickly, but it does seem to come right
quite quickly. And there's all sorts of things you can
play one but I'll just pull the trigger on a
quite a big project here. We'll put another fifteen current
Lizarden eating up and put some more venis and horns
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on just for ease in the in the top of
the country. It's in the paulmy Keir numbers back just
a little bit just for for environmental reasons and in
other things. So yeah, but yeah, it's all of course oversification, Andy,
I think is the key, and that we definly do
the any finger polyer we haven't got a finger in
as a as a dairy farm. We keep plugging away
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now for the next couple of years. Made it might
be on the horizon maybe, but we'll wait and see, but.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's under is sing. You mentioned environmental reasons regarding count numbers.
What do you mean by that exactly?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Just wait springs, mate. You know I could argue, you know,
climate change is climate change or won't go as far
as sound global warming, but we're definitely water. Our Ryan
fills the same throughout the year, but our intensities are huge.
You know, we don't get to the farm n mos anymore.
We get twenties and thirties and there's some plenty of
base cats runn around. They always worning here to develop land,
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and we all cut over in the run country that
we did have. And I've sort of done their job now, Andy,
arguably I'm not. I'm just going to hold the numbers
back a little bit and I can see a better,
better probably margin. We're turning out of putting venice and
horns up there and just slightly stock it with them
versus a big, big care run around up there. So
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that's the sort of thinking behind that. And on that night, mate,
just because there's deaning cannot be he doesn't mean to
say you're to put a deer behind it. You can
put whatever you lock upon it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Of course, again you've just got a bit more fortification.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, and no, there's other.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Things around that too. You know, there's a lot of
wild here that on that side where I am, And yeah,
it takes a few boxes. And like I say, we're
probably lucky enough with returns and Beckham and straight talking.
So that's sort of been water around in the back
of the mornd for four or five years, and even
they've said twenty years ago. So I'm like, oh, well,
we can probably afford to do it this year. So
we're we'll climb into it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
As far as wild deer, how big a concern is
that for you?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I look, mate, we're surrounded by obviously fuel land, and
then we've got doc managed merely forrest behind us, and
we've got twenty in t odd kometers of uculpus south
of boundary right around us. So we are well hearsed
in the effects of wild animals and we're just keep hunting, mate.
We know our Telli's you know, we're going to take
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twenty three and four hundred year off the proper a year,
and we've just we've been in this game for thirty
years and you so you just got a farm with it,
work with it. So from the people out there that
aren't used to it though in the vendar and forestry
box where you can see what the up, you know
it's going to cause head aches, but you just got
to get onto it and think outside the box. It
doesn't turn into so much hunting, mate, that starts turn
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into peace control.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Jamie Ky of laker Roko, Thanks very much for your
time on the Muster throughout the year as well. Enjoy
the holiday season and we'll catch up in twenty twenty six.
I always appreciate your time, hey spot.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
On, appreciate that any tourist is out there, have a good,
good break and recharge the victories and let's roll on.
Twenty twenty five has been better than twenty twenty four,
so let's go twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Jamie King of laker Roko in the Sagean Dan Farming
round up. Thanks of course the Saturn Den and stock
foods here and Gore and just a further reminder as well,
the twenty twenty five National Velvet Competition and Ward's not
happening at the Escot Hotel and of the Cargo five
o'clock this Thursday. Penny Simmons is up next MP from
the Cargol and Minister for the Environment. You're listening to
(11:07):
the muster. Welcome back to the Muster and the Cargo.
MP Penny Simmons joins us as well. She is Minister
for the Environment. Good afternoon, Penny. How are you?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. It's to be chaffing. So I'm
still down here and in Vagol today going up tonight.
They've put the late flights on over summer, which is great.
I can spend a full day in the Electris and
go up at six thirty at night, get up there
at nine point forty, So I'm very pleased.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So you'll have to go via christ Church I suppose.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yes, yeah, yeah, no direct flights.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, good on New Zealand anywhere. That's the matter for
another day.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Heyns.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So we talk about free trade agreements, Penny. This has
been quite at the hot topic over the past twelve months,
especially getting that free trade agreement over the line with India.
Tom mcclay's over there at moment, putting in the effort.
How realistic is that we're going to get perhaps red
meat and an FTA to make it meaningful for real? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Well, look I think he's doing his level best for us.
He's done some great work with free trade agreements. He
did their fastest free trade agreement that's ever been done
for the country earlier this year. Of course, we've got
the UAE and the Golf States one that's been really good.
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The Indian one's look, it's going to be a tricky one,
but he's up there at the moment. He's up there
this week really pushing things hard for us. He had
his counterpart from India down with him a couple of
weeks ago. He's very aware as the Agriculture Minister how
important it is to get some significant agricultural wins for us.
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So let's hope that red meat one that he can
really get something included there. And I know that the
ambition from the Prime Minister and for Todd is to
have an India a free trade with India before the
end of this term.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now yours qualified to talk about this as any one
penny given you a history of siit was there a
lot of I don't know, hesitancy from India regarding New
Zealand based on the way we treated overseas students during
the COVID COVID era.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
No look, I think they are very keen to be
able to get their students into here. They're very keen
to have smooth pathways for their students for work visas.
So no doubt that will be part of the discussion.
The Indian students make up big numbers at our universities
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and polytechnics. They are second behind China, so they are
important to us and we want to make sure the
smooth pathways there as well.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
So it's pretty harmonious as far as Indian students come
into New Zealand. It's a z all kosher, yeah, I
think so.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Look, you know, there's always things that have to be
thoroughly checked out in terms of finances and credibility of qualifications,
but they are what in immigration New Zealand has to
check out anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now, this is a good news story, Penny. It came
out late last week farm plastics recycling scheme guess the
green light because this has been a real point of
contention for farmers. What are the finer details of this
that people need to know?
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, so, look, this is formalizing something that has been
a voluntary scheme that's been run by a couple of
industry players, and we're combining that and now making it
a compulsory scheme because they had sort of plateaued with
the voluntary scheme of how many were engaging in it,
and that meant there were some free riders in terms
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of their importers of the plastics. So this now becomes
a compulsory scheme. It pulls together to existing industry driven
voluntary schemes and ensures that the payment is made upfront
as the importers bring the products or the plastics into
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the country. And so therefore the scheme, the farmer, the
end user doesn't have to pay for it. They will
be collected. The plastics will be collected and taken away,
so that's the bail wraps and silid sheets and agrichemical
containers will be taken away for recycling. We're struggling a
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bit to get recycling viable here in New Zealand, but
at this stage they are going offshore for recycling. But
we have had recycling available. You'll be aware Recycle South
has palletizer and macarewa that we're hopeful in the future
that that might become viable again. Now that this scheme
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will ensure the feedstock for it. Because it's that continuity
of feedstock of the plastics coming in, that can be
the issue.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, that was the intriguing thing after the last local
body election, Penny. All of a sudden puff, the stroke
of a pen, and we had recycling here in Gore.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yes, well that's good, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, But it was random who had just appeared out
of the blue.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Well, I'm going out to have a look at the
lime Hill site. I think it's week after next, next
week or the week after next before Christmas anyway, because
what they are doing out there where a lot of
our landfill goes to, is extremely forward looking. They capture
the gas and they use it to drive the lot.
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So I'm very keen to see that. But of course
we do want to keep those plastics and those big
bulky containers that don't break down, we'd want to keep
them out of landfill. And so that's the value of
the recycling scheme.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Now we're saying here in the pressure last week, the
industry lead scheme will bring the existing programs into a
single national system, offering free to use, simple and accessible
services for all users of in scope agrichemicals and farm plastics.
The key phrase there, Penny is free to use. How
far is this going to go?
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Yes, So look, that's why the cost is built on
at the front for the ones that are importing the products,
importing the plastics coming into the country. Our expectation is
because it's such a small amount that they won't pass
it on to the end users, to the farmers and
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the growers. But the scheme, the actual pickup scheme and
the recycling is free to the farmers and the growers.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
So it's going to be compulsory for farmers to be
part of this.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
It's compulsory for the importers to be part of it.
So it's not compulsory for the farmers, but it is
compulsory for the import But we believe that farmers as
good stewards of their land and of the environment, they
will want to if it's a free pickup, they will
want to have their plastics picked up rather than having
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to burn or bury them. And so that's where the
engagement with the farmers occurs, not making mandatory pick up,
but that it's free. So why wouldn't you do it?
Save you the job of having to try and get
rid of it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, we'll stand by to see how this pans out
just finally, Penny, how busy is the week for your
he heed?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Well, the next week ahead is very busy because it's
going to be urgency, so we'll probably be there till
midnight on Saturday night, so that'll be midnight, will be
ten o'clock Tuesday, and then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday will
be midnight. So it's a busy weekends. We try and
get a lot of legislation through over the next while.
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People will be aware that the Resource Management Acts Replacement
X coming up this week, so there's going to be
plenty of big, chunky things happening up in Parliament this
coming week.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, good on your penny. Always good to catch up.
We'll catch up one final time this year next week.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Bye you. Penny Simons, MP from v Cargo as well
as Minister for the Environment. You're listening to the muster
up next we're away to Glenham and we're catching up
with Dean Rabbage. The musters on the farm brought to
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you by Southland District Council working together for a better Southland.
Dean Rabbage Farms at Glenham and joins us this afternoon.
Da good afternoon. How's everything down in Yournich of the Woods?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Good afternoon, and yeah, very good at the moment speak.
It's just a lot like the the rest of the province,
penny feed and during these warm temperatures. But win could
bugger off. Really it's getting a bit tiring. But apart
from that, everything's looking pretty good and checking up for
a good summer.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah that wind, that's red. It's ugly head over the
last couple of days once again.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, I see there's a notification this morning on the
phone that the school bus had to take a detour
because the trees over the road again. So I suspect
that were's still a lot of trees that have had
root systems weakened, and that from the from the event
we had at the end of October, so that could
still be upsetting a few, but something to keep an
eye on.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So everything's just taking away. All the lambs have been waned.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh look, we just started winning this morning. We just
did the two eternal twins, got them out of the road,
and Wednesday we'll have a big crack at all the
terminal lambs and hopefully get off whack of them away
and then we'll Chiff Way the rest of them eternals
over the next few days really, So yeah, just silence
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steady ones of the restaurant here when it comes to winning.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
High hopes for numbers away, you're just pretty pragmatic around
the situation.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Look, we're not going to go chasing big numbers. We'll
keep their weights up a little bit high on target,
sort of an average evading kilos, and we'll try and
maintain the average right across the season. Really, I think
at times at winning, just the way payment structures work
in the sector, that we can be guilty of chasing
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the money and the average weights dropped considerably, and I
don't think it's doing industry an You're good and providing
a consistent product throughout the year, which is unfortunate. So yeah,
we'll just keep the bar reasonably high, plenty of feed
and still building up new numbers. So we've but slightly
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understocked for us compared to normal. We'll care on putting
the weight on I think this year.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So you're not worried about stores or anything giving them money.
Where is where it is, the covers are where you
want them to be, I suppose, Yeah, Like and just.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Talking people and then to see I don't think we're
going to see the big schedule drops like we've seen
in the past, and I'm probably be proven wrong, but
at the moment, I'm yeah, still happy. Just we'll keep
those trying to kelly anything that's going to kill above
seventeen and a half and try and average eight and
kido's or something like that. So there's the planet of
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the stage. But yeah, happy to be well, more likely
to be proven wrong as usually him and regret something,
but that's the planet of the stage. Now.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You were telling me before, you're not crushing your lambs
this year. You're going to take a part. You're going
to get the feathers off them next week.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I just wanted to sharing contractor the end as
I was whening them. All the lambs are still very
clean and that so we normally fear everything of January
January any way, so why not do it now? There's
plenty of will on them. They're a good neck in
your feet around and then that'll eliminate heaving to dip
anything and fly strike prevention and all that sort of
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stuff later on, and crushing before sharing as well. In
a month's time, So all going to plan. There is
a bit of a spread of the moment decision this
morning as we're wedding, but we'll do that next week.
But they only hold up we've got is that my wall.
She currently doesn't have a roof, so yeah, just trying
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to sort out a few logistics and well we'll give
it a crack and see what happens. Anyway, that's what
happens in the North Island and it seems to work.
We all for them, so I don't see why we
can't do it down here.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
But well this is Southland.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, I know, I know anything can change. Yet I'll
talk to you in a few weeks time and the
plan will have completely changed. But this plan at the moment,
oh nothing.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
A big old tap can't hold for a couple of days, right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see. It's going to be fine. It's
going to be fine.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So in general though, and you were saying it before
as well, the way that wolves rebounded hearing likes of
dirty price for crossbred wall being over three dollars.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, it's quite encouraging, isn't it. We just then you'll
share or their use in genuary and they normally share
in that four kilos of walls. So yeah, look, it's
quite positive. I think at least the sharing bill is
going to be more than covered this year just looking
at it. So yeah, we'll just carry on and try
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and maintain a high quality club and give it the
works over the cable like we have been, like we
always have. And yeah, hopefully we'll see a bit of
a positive or a black figure at the bottom of
the wall budget this year.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, certainly it's not. It's a silver ball at the
industry needs. By no means is going to fix the industry.
Let's been clear about that. But it's all small steps.
I suppose, it's like eating an elephant, just so little bites.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, exactly, and once we start plucking de trope again
the ball thing today, So you tell.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
The younger generation that land and see what they come
up with their idea. Yeah, I know, I know, but
that'd be a great problem to have. But mutton prices too,
they've rebounded strongly, just a red meat sector in general.
Venison schedules are up there, red meats up there. We
talk about beef, we talk about mutton, we talk about lamb.
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So it's a good vibe heading into Christmas.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, I was just flocking through map on the phone
looking at weights and prices we're getting for product this
time last year and Mutton was four seventeen and Lamb
dot Lamb was eight o six. It was that was
last week in November then, so it probably would have
come back by now. But yeah, so this year we're
talking sort of six forty and around there eleven dollars
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for Lamb. So it's pretty positive out there and it's
really exciting and yeah, it's fantastic and it's a shame
it's probably eighteen months too late because we've lost a
lot of sheep and beef out of the system across
the country. But yeah, in mind, it's really good and
a positive, positive space going into Christmas.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Hey, we talk about the Arima changes as well that
are in the pipeline of counsel amalgamations to follow on
after that from this central government directive. What are your thoughts?
Is it good?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh, look, it's good that it's been locked there and
it's been torn apart and rebuilt. I guess the devil
will be in the detail and yeah, that's still a
lot of detail to expose itself, I guess, But I
just hope whatever happens, it is by partisan support, and
we're not just going to see the IMA becoming a
political football and getting revamped every three years, because that'll
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just lead to a huge waste and costs and bureaucracy
and probably not achieve anything. At the end of the day.
We'll just be continuously living in a state of say
the limbo. So yeah, look excited to see what comes out.
Hopefully it'll be positive and make farming and land uses
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quite beneficial moving forward. But yeah, it just whatever happens
just needs to be supported and be allowed to be
had done for a few years before massive changes happened again.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Really yeah, interesting how it's going to pan out. Dean, Hey,
we'll leave it there mate, Thanks for your time once again,
we always appreciate your time on the muster. Enjoy the
holidays and good luck getting that tarp up for sharing.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Thanks Ruch Sheylad.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Dean rabbitge Farming at Glenham. Ye're listening to the muster
before the end of the hour. Alan McCleary from Sheerwell,
New Zealand. Up next, so Jason Pine from news Dog
ZIBB The Black Caps The Drawer that Got Away. This
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is a muster on Hakanui. Jason Pine his host on
Weekend Sport on News Dog Zibb Piney, good afternoon, a
big weekend to crack out and arguably the West Indies
they found a real good backbone they haven't had for
a very long time and to be on with you as.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Always year So I think a lot of us when
the West Indies you know, were announced as turants at
the front end of our summer, thought that the Test
Series might be a bit of a damp squib, that
they might be perhaps you know, a reasonable white ball side,
but the Test side has in the last few years
really failed to max to the exports of their white
ball teams, their T twenty team in particular. But yeah,
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some backbones at Hagleyoval on Saturday on day five when
you know, admittedly New Zealand bowling attack was under strength
with no Matt Henry and no Nathan Smith available on
the last day, so I've made a lot of toil
for those who were left. But you're still going to
stay out there, you know, and for the West Indies
to rack up four hundred and plenty and save the
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Test and take it to Wellington all square with two
to play. I think surprised a lot of people. And
it's going to be hard for New Zealand at the
base in reserve because now we know that there's no
Nathan Smith or Matt Henry or Mitchell Satner as well
as Tom Blundell all missing for the base in reserve test.
So the depth of our seam bowling stocks in particular
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is going to be quite severely tested in Wellington.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Jacob Duffy, he's excelled in the short form game. How's
he going in the test format? Do you think he's
something that he's somebody who could actually step up there
and perhaps look ahead to next year going to Australia.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Well, he's going to have to, isn't he.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
That's the thing. He's going to have to lead the line.
I think Matt Henry, we all agree, is the spare
ahead of our bowling attack. But he can't do it
by himself and with no Willow Rourke at the moment,
no Carle Jamison, Jacob Duffy is going to get the
new ball. You know, he and Zack Folks are going
to open up with a new ball in Wellington. So yeah,
I think Jacob Duffy has a brilliant opportunity to show
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the selectors and New Zealand cricket fans that he's an
all format bowler, that he's not just a white ball specialist.
He's been around the first class scene and he as
you know, down your neck of the woods for a
long time twenty twelve years, Yeah, and has always been,
you know, a guy who at provincial level has excelled.
So yep, he's fold plenty of plenty of the liveries
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with the red ball. Looking forward to seeing how he
goes in Wellington.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Is there a chance of fatigue though? I mean Duffy
bowled a lot of overs, folks did, oh, so how
are we going to how are we going to front
up though with only a couple of days Grace.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Yeah, it's a good question, and you're right, I think.
I think Duffy bold forty odd overs and that second
innings folks the same thirty odds. So yeah, look as
a matter of how they how they come through I guess,
and they recover test us. It starts on Wednesday, so
once we get there, and who knows, maybe we'll bat
first anyway, so that'll be another a day or two
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opportunity for them to refresh. But yeah, it'll it'll it'll
be a test, an absolute test, and that's what they're called,
and the test matches that they're supposed to test.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now, we're looking ahead to the black Caps going to
Australia next year, as it talked about before. But look,
this Australian team is so good and especially on their
own decks bas ball England coming over there and just saying, look,
we're going to take you on with our brand of cracket.
But it is fair to say this is spectacularly back
firing for Berenda McCollum.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Yeah, I think Australia are just a better side.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
I think, man for man, they're just a better team
than England, you know. And yes the approach has been
talked about a lot. I think they were a bit
more circumspect at the Gabba than they were in Perth
where it was just suicidal on occasion. But you know,
they got to the Gabba and they applied themselves a
little bit more in the in the first innings in particular,
and Joe Root with a century there was good to see.
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But I just think Australia are a better team and
they're still missing a couple as well. Pat Cumman's not
there and Josh hazel Wood still has to come back,
know Nathan Lyon in this test. So yeah, look this
ashes could be wrapped up before Christmas, couldn't it. They
go to Adelaide next before the Boxing Day Test in
Melbourne and then the Fifth Test in Sydney. Look, we
might get to Christmas and the ashes have been secured
(31:45):
by Australia. So look, as I say, I just think
they are a very good cricketing side with plenty of
debt and lots of lots of batting power. You know,
much as we might be intimidated by that, I still
can't wait for that four Test series next summer.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, it's going to be fantastic. But I mean you
talk about their batting depth as well. Nathan McSweeney, he's
on the verge of the Test side. He makes two
hundred and twenty six night out against the Lions eleven,
which is effectively the second England side. So they've got
depth for Africa.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
That's always been the case over there, hasn't it. You know,
Sheffield Shield is very competitive the domestic first class competition,
and you know it often takes a while for a
player to get into the Test team, they have to
score a lot of runs at Sheffield Shield level before
they even get considered for the Test side. And I
think of a guy like Michael Hussey. He scored thousands
(32:36):
and thousands of runs at Sheffield Shield level before he
was even close to the Australian side, and then we
know what he went on to do. So yeah, they
produce a lot of good batters over there on those
hard and fast decks, and yeah, I can't see that
changing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, Mike Cassi close to ten thousand runs domestically before
he got his call out. Now, the FIFA World Cap
draw was held over the week ked the all Whites Belgium,
Egypt and Iran in their group. How do you view this?
Is this a positive?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
I think so?
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Yeah, I think it's a good draw. Could have been
a lot worse than that, could have been better. I
guess if you had your absolute ideal and you could
have you know, picked the balls out yourself and put
us in a group with who we know absolutely would
have liked to face. But I think it's a good draw.
You know, we were always going to have a tough
game when a team from Pot one came out, you know,
one of the top nine or ten sides in the world.
(33:26):
That's if we didn't draw one of the co hosts,
which we didn't, so Belgium. You know, they're not a
glamorous team. They're not in England or in Argentina or
a Brazil You know, I almost feel us though. That
game's a bit of a free hit, and it's the
other two that New Zealand will absolutely target to try
and get results from. Iran a twentieth in the world
at the moment, Egypt are thirty fourth a reference, we're
(33:47):
eighty six. But the thief of rankings once you get
beyond about number thirty, you can throw a blanket over
a lot of teams really, and especially in not one
of situation. The other part of this, which is really
really encouraging is the venue for New Zealand's matches. One
game in Los Angeles and two up in Vancouver, so
the western seaboard of North America accessible for New Zealand fans.
(34:10):
There are direct flights to both of those cities from Auckland,
So anybody who was maybe thinking about the World Cup
and going over to support the All Whites and we're
waiting to see whether they ended up somewhere over on
the East coast, or there were three different venues, or
down in Mexico or whatever it was. They can now say, well,
actually it's a direct flight from Auckland to Vancouver, a
(34:30):
direct flight from Auckland to Los Angeles. Maybe we will
go up there and watch them. Temperatures are much better
on the West Coast as well in June and July
than some of those southern states where temperatures tend to
get into the mid thirties. So all in all, Andy,
I think it's a really positive drawer. And now we
know who the all whites are facing, they can set
about planning to get the best results they can out
(34:50):
of those three games.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And just finally, Jason sam Ruth running records fifteen hundred meters.
He's breaking records all over the show. This guy looks
the real deal.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Incredible, incredible what he is doing at his age. You
look at the New Zealand secondary school records for the
fifteen hundred and eight hundred meters that he beat over
the weekend. He didn't just beat the many, he obliterated
those records. That fifteen hundred meters record has stood for
thirty nine years, sorry, thirty six years anyway, it's in
the thirties. Richard Potts set that record back in nineteen
(35:24):
eighty nine, and ironically enough, he was there giving Sam
Ruth his split times as he went past the belly
or you know, the start finish line each time. That
was a nice little layer. But Sam Ruth beat his
record by eight seconds eight seconds in the fifteen hundred meters.
That's not just you know, beating the record, that is
absolutely smashing it. And in the eight hundred he was
(35:46):
also three and a half four seconds quicker than the
previous record holder. So this kid, at the age of
sixteen is running faster than Peter Smell did, and John
Walker did, than Rod Dickson Nick Willis did at the
same mate. Look, you don't want to pump a young
boys ties up too much, but what he's doing at
the moment is not normal, absolutely not normal, and it
(36:08):
will be tremendously exciting to follow the progress of the
sixteen year old Sam Ruth. It's a name to remember,
and who knows.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What he might go on to achieve.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Good on your pony, Always appreciate your time and as
you have done over the year. Free, come on free,
and we'll do it again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
All the best to you and your family for a
RESTful and relaxing holiday season, and to all your listeners
as well. Look forward to catching up in an exciting
twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Jason Pine of news Dog ZB, host of the weekend
Sport Before we wrap up, Alan McCleary of Sharewoun, New
Zealand seventy I'm sure man, welcome back to the muster.
(37:00):
Bruce Springsteen is the music, the rising hell of a
great song. The this'd be perfectly honest. Alan McCleary of Sheerwell,
New Zealand joins us. Next. Good afternoon, Alan, Where do
we find you this afternoon?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Well, season's greetings there, Chap, And I'm actually at home today.
I'm doing a fear bit of phone work and emailing
and catching up before the end of Christmas. So yeah,
busy enough.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
The year's gone pretty quickly when you think.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
About it, it has, you know, and this last half
I don't know it's just old age or what, but man,
she's fair, hum and ground, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Tell me about it? I think mentally I'm still back
in August, but that's the matter for another day. But
the first thing gets this, gets something clear, right, you
need a GPUs for Christmas, sir, because we went up
to the farmer's shouts have a niger woodheads there just
on a couple of weeks ago. Fantastic event as well.
But one person who knows every road in South Otago
(37:53):
like the back of his hand, God has lost.
Speaker 6 (37:57):
I spent a wee bit of time in Ireland and
never lost. You just haven't reached your destination yet. I
was only given the directions. I wasn't driving, so don't
lame it all on me, mate.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Landy Fraser was doing his due diligence, just guiding us
with your hand said, aye, yet go here? I know
we go up here? Yea aye yet no, you're right.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Well, to be fair, I did realize when we got
there that we were in the wrong spot. Give me
credit for that.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Lucky you can do three point turns and gateways. That's
the main thing. But look, that was a great event.
So what's been having over the past couple of weeks? Mate?
Have you been doing cold calling up driveway to connecting
with farmers? What's the go I am, I am.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
We're yeah. Normally yeah to a weave. It tricky in December,
everybody's weaning and trying to make bailage and get paddock's work,
so it is a wee bit tricky. But you know,
we're still doing a fever bit of cold calling. We're
still getting new customers. Yeah, I've done a bit of tagging.
We went, we're trialing out a bit of new gear.
So I've been tagging a few years and tagging some cattle.
(38:56):
So yeah, hopefully in the new year that we'll be
to tell you all about that. But it was, yeah,
looking good, so you and I'm still out getting my
hands dirty.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
So you've got no time to get on that hand piece.
It's just the busy season, just a busy sea.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah no, no, I haven't really been on at a
talk so for full ball with the sheerwell.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Mate, yeah, well shearwell New Zealand you're looking at tagging
options for the kettle of the sheep. It makes a
lot of sense. How's things been over the last couple
of weeks from your perspective though, Ellen.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Look, we're still really busy, even though December there's not
a lot of tagging done in December, we've had a
lot of orders go out, people getting ready for the
new year and that. So yeah, look they're well up
again and Ray's looking at well, we're looking at getting
another another printer, just so that we can keep up
that good turnaround, that really good service that we're known for.
(39:47):
So that's pretty important to us. If we can get
those tags out within days of the farmer ordering them,
that's that's what we're all about.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
So, I mean, the elves are busy doing presents all
the year round, but raising the office doing tags year
round and argibly you get them quicker than something from
the north pole.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
Yeah it's a bit taller than an alf though, but
I must I must have a good look at them
next time I see them, and you could have the gears.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, that's the unique thing about shear our tags, Alan McCleary,
is that they come in different colors, a lot illuminous
colors these days, I think the word is or brighter colors,
and just not just sheet tags, but kettle tags as well.
So you've covered all spectrums of the tagging industry.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
We are we are And I don't know whether I
mentioned last time. But we've got the new yellow out.
It should be here or well, let's say after Christmas
to be safe. But yeah, the new yellow. They've worked
on the brightness of that and it looks really good.
So yeah, they're delivering on that, and just on those
tags too, like they don't all have to go and stop.
We sell quite a few. We sold some to a
(40:48):
helicopter firm there we while ago. They're going to put
them in some of their gear and security fencing. So yeah,
a dive company, they've got our EID tags on all
their kits. When they hop in the water, they got
all their gear on, and when they hop back out,
they can scan them and make sure they haven't left
their you know, their diving belt or whatever behind. So
there's lots and lots of uses for them.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I remember going into a public's upon a time and
all their handles had sheet tags on them, so they
knew which was which.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, what's that called the beer club
or something that's called in it the handles club?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yeah, I know, we've supplied a few for them, mainly
up north because you know, we're all teetotalers down here.
But yeah, you just never know where those tags are
going to end up sometimes.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, I thank you some inverted commas on that tee
takeless statement there.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Ell.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
Yeah, they didn't serve any at the beer do the
other night, didn't they, But that some of those farmers
were still there at after one o'clock in the morning,
So it was quite.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
A quite a well social occasion.
Speaker 6 (41:47):
Yeah, I was trying to find a plot word mate.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Well, that's what you've got to have at this time
of year, and it's some beauty of being in the
farming industry. It's it's about the lead up to Christmas. Yes,
it's busy, but at the same time you get these
opportunities to go and catch up.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
It was and look we did catch up in a
lot of people.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
It was.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
It was good one. There was a lot there and
we all had a good yarn and it was a
great afternoon really, so well done the lead.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Up to Christmas. Have you got to set off date
that you park up the wheels on those tires of
that truck of yours and never stops running And do
you take an extended break or what's the plan?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
Yeah, I don't think too many cockies want to see
me on Christmas Eve. Actually, don't think too many cockies
want to see me full stop.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Sometimes as long as you don't turn up Christmas Day,
you're probably all right.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
No, no, no, no, I'm a big Christmas boy. You know,
I'm got to be at home for center. So but
now we look, we'll park up probably about about the
twenty twenty first summer in there. I think farmers are
pretty well. Yeah, they don't need me coming up your
driveway annoying them. There's plenty of other things I can
be doing, so they'll be safe from the from about
the twentieth one was they can probably be probably be safe.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Share we our New Zealand. If people wanted to get
in touch, same old story. Your social media channels are
pretty active. But what's the number to get in touch
on the McCleary to talk sheet tags.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
Well, if you want to to me, you go two
seven two three two double four, double eight or ray
is eight hundred and seven triple nine eight nine, and
you'll always get one of us.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Get on you, Ellen, now we'll leave you on the
line for this. You lucky thing.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Here we go laugh out around with ag proud because
life on the land can be a laughing matter brought
to us by sheer Well Data working to help the
livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Here we Go. A woman was cranky because her husband
was late coming home again. She decided to leave a
note saying I've had enough and I've left. You don't
bother coming after me. Then she head under the bed
to see his reaction. After a short while, the husband
comes home and she could hear him in the kitchen.
Before he comes into the bedroom, she could see him
walk towards a dresser and pick up the note. After
(43:46):
a few minutes, he wrote something on it before picking
up the phone and calling someone. She's finally gone, yeah,
I know about bloody time. We're comeing to see you.
You put on that ninety oo a caw' wait to
see you. It's got to be great fun. And then
he hung up, grabbed his keys and left. She heard
the car drive off. She came out from under the bed,
seething with rage, with tears in her eyes. She grabbed
a note to see what he wrote. I can see
(44:07):
your feet. We're out of bread. I'll be back in
five minutes.
Speaker 6 (44:14):
I don't think I'll try that.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Probably not. Ellen McCleary. Hate always good to catch up
and we'll check with you again before the end of
the year. Here on the muster rightio.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Season's greetings and thanks everybody.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Catch up Ellen McCleary is sure we are New Zealand
wrapping up the muster of the podcast going up shortly
join the boat, see you tomorrow one o'clock
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