December 9, 2025 • 8 mins
Jason Herrick says the proposed changes around RMAs are good news for southern farmers.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This interview is brought to you by Agricenter South Branches
in Launville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton and Ranfurly. Drop by your
local agri Center South branch today.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jason Herrick as President of South in Federated Farmers and
joins us once again after quite a big twenty four
hours in the rural landscape of thing is fair to say,
especially from a federated few federated farmer's viewpoint, Jason, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, good afternoon, and a year it's actually been quite
gratifying after the at the hard work that Federated farmers
have been putting into, in particular the consent issue right
up and down the country. So there's definitely a good
win for farmers on this one.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Just very quickly, the Resource Management Act is going
to be replaced with two acts. The Planning Act in
a National Environment Act is going to be cutting consent,
consent and permanent numbers by forty six percent, slashing the
number of plans from all of the one hundred to
just seventeen. GDP is going to be changing yearly as well.
A lot of positives in this too, but you guys
(01:05):
have fed, you'll be pretty tough though.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, extremely toughed. And you've only got to take
a prime example that if you want to do most
things on a farm, you've got to get a consent
from two different councils, right, So there's a huge cuffing
and consent requirements right there. And you know, so it's
been a big win for farmers, especially for people that
are approaching that renewal consent face.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
As far as farm plans and the like stem which yes,
has been pretty hot under the collar around and has
been for a while, to be fair, So what the
change is there? There will be impacts all over the board,
I'd imagine definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And let's hope that the farm plan proposal that they're
going to bring out is going to be streamlined in
a user friendly document that farmers can do themselves right,
and the devil will be in the detail. And you know,
I'm not a policy person, but we've definitely got to
have policy people digging really deep into this and we'll
make sure that we are betting on the right side
of the fence for the pharmacy because.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
If you look deeply inside this ariuma X what's involved,
there's over a thousand types of zones in New Zealand.
The Council is currently taking a bespoke approach to zoning Japan.
For example, they've got thirteen, so reducing the number of
zones to the figures in the double digits chase, amongst
other things. It certainly shows that there's a lot of
(02:22):
this to take on board. Least. Remember this is a
massive document as well, these hundreds of pages.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, so the original RMA from my understanding of seven
hundred and eighty pages, so there's a lot of deciphering
and that, and they definitely want to cut that right
right back and bring it for more of a common sense,
siblistic approach. And you know, when you look at Japan,
that's a lot of similarity there, you know, to day
compared to ours well, you know, and it just leans
(02:49):
towards you know, amalgamations or councils to help the government
streamline all this. Right, So there's a bigger wit of
conversation here and there's definitely a lot of work to
be done before it all lands.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And he can earns around the proposed changes.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm not hearing too many negatives. There's definitely some concerns
around some things, but yeah, it's common sense. At the
end of the day, you know, there's going to be
less cultural requirements through a lot of the consenting process,
which is going to listen the cost and listen the
consent requirements. So you know, it is a good one
and I'll dive into this a lot deeper and you
(03:25):
see what sort of pragmatic approaches and how common sense
it's going to be for farmers because that's what.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We're after Cnason Farm for example, a big big shift
there heritage areas. If there's one found on your farm,
you're entitled to compensation. So yeah, there's a hell of
a lot of this to entail basically, and there's anything
and everything is.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Covered, Yeah, exactly. So it's definitely time for, you know,
a change again and to be honest with the any
people as a whole don't like change, so this will
be quite scary for a lot of people and the
unknowns and we're just got to have faith it that
the processes are going to follow and be done right
and if they're not, will hold into account. And you know,
(04:06):
there's a simple picket to pieces and make sure that
it's going to be a fit for purpose and good
for everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
As far as the yes. Have you been talking to
them this morning regarding the changes.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh, like, I had a brief conversation with Jeremy at
far and there's definitely a lot of details to get through.
And you know, there's going to be a lot less
work for the consent team in the short term because
of the rollover of consent reneurals for the next two years,
which is a great result. So you know they'll be
able to concentrate a little bit more on the other
(04:37):
necessities and the other functions of the council. So yeah,
it will definitely lessen their lessen their workload. That for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's not going to please everybody though, Jason Forrest and
brad Chief Advisor Richard Kape saying it was a mess
of shake up in New Zealand's core environmental and planning laws,
also saying it's rewriting, rewriting the rules that protect our
rivers and lakes, the rules that are needed to make
sure the are four thousand threaten species are brought back
from the brink.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Hey look at it's also says in there that the
environmental standards are going to be the same as what
we currently have now, you know, to the same length
and depth that we have to avide by when we
do go through the consent and process. So you know,
it's not surprising that the lives of forest and burden
there'll be a few more jumping up and down about
this too, because they just like the attention at the
(05:25):
end of the day.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So we can pretty much put this under the care
category of another thing ticked off, Federated Farmers one thing,
the certain issues ticked off this year. I think we're
getting well through your list now, are we not.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, No, they're getting definitely well through the list. And
I know, and we're really happy and stoked that they're
taking us serious because at the end of the day,
culture there's the backbone of the country. You know, look
at good Old South and for instance, you know, forteen
per cent of the GDP at only four percent of
the population. You know, we're betting well above our weight.
And it's and it's to do with the royal sector.
There's no to ways about that. So the government's taking
(05:59):
notice of that and pointing New Zealand in the right
direction in my opinion, and it has been so costly
and it has cost the New Zealand economy so much
for so many years, and for us to get a
bit of progress and heading in the right economic direction,
these changes need to be made. Otherwise we're just going
to keep thinking down the toilet, because at the end
of the day, rates can't continue to rise the way
(06:20):
they are. Our four old pensioners won't be able to
afford to pay their pay their rates on their pension
by twenty thirty five they keep going in that direction.
So the government's really taken notice on the cost of
things and at the end of the day, we've just
got to get back to that common sense approach, don't we.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is this going to affect South And more than other
regions in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think it's going to affect every region in New
Zealand the same. You know, at the end of the day,
we've got to be diverse and equitable right across the board,
and you know there's farmers all over New Zealand, not
just South lond But it will also affect the environmental
situation in all the urban sectors as well, right, so
you know it's not just going to have an on
(07:00):
the royal set. It's going to huge impact on the
urban sectors as well. So you know we can all
work together and go as one and be unified in this.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well the perfect case study. In this example, though, Jason
was supposed as David Clark up in Canterbury and the
hopes he was having to jump through courtesy of e
Can to try and get consents for his farm. This
is the perfect example of why this has come about.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh exactly. And you know another case up there too
where a notified consent had to happen when they went
for a renewal. You know, they had to have a
public meeting, and the farmer paid seventy thousand dollars for
the public meeting. He turned up to that public meeting
and everything was all good, and he seent some morning
(07:41):
tea on the table there and said he'd helped himself
because he just paid seventy thousand dollars for the process
and promptly got old it was for council stuff only,
so he was quite horrified at that fact.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The attention will be in the detailed profer. Jason Herrick,
thanks very much for your time on the muster. Once again.
If we don't speak again this year, thanks to your time,
enjoy the holiday season and we'll do it again next season.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, you too, ready, you're looking forward to next year.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Jason Herrick of Self Confederated Farmers. Where you're listening to
the muster, we're way to my flat necks. James Edgar
see how things are going up in his neck. Neck
of the woods. Here in West Otago, you could bear
the wor
This interview is brought to you by Agricenter South Branches
in Launville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton and Ranfurly. Drop by your
local agri Center South branch today.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Jason Herrick as President of South in Federated Farmers and
joins us once again after quite a big twenty four
hours in the rural landscape of thing is fair to say,
especially from a federated few federated farmer's viewpoint, Jason, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, good afternoon, and a year it's actually been quite
gratifying after the at the hard work that Federated farmers
have been putting into, in particular the consent issue right
up and down the country. So there's definitely a good
win for farmers on this one.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Just very quickly, the Resource Management Act is going
to be replaced with two acts. The Planning Act in
a National Environment Act is going to be cutting consent,
consent and permanent numbers by forty six percent, slashing the
number of plans from all of the one hundred to
just seventeen. GDP is going to be changing yearly as well.
A lot of positives in this too, but you guys
(01:05):
have fed, you'll be pretty tough though.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
You know, extremely toughed. And you've only got to take
a prime example that if you want to do most
things on a farm, you've got to get a consent
from two different councils, right, So there's a huge cuffing
and consent requirements right there. And you know, so it's
been a big win for farmers, especially for people that
are approaching that renewal consent face.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
As far as farm plans and the like stem which yes,
has been pretty hot under the collar around and has
been for a while, to be fair, So what the
change is there? There will be impacts all over the board,
I'd imagine definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And let's hope that the farm plan proposal that they're
going to bring out is going to be streamlined in
a user friendly document that farmers can do themselves right,
and the devil will be in the detail. And you know,
I'm not a policy person, but we've definitely got to
have policy people digging really deep into this and we'll
make sure that we are betting on the right side
of the fence for the pharmacy because.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
If you look deeply inside this ariuma X what's involved,
there's over a thousand types of zones in New Zealand.
The Council is currently taking a bespoke approach to zoning Japan.
For example, they've got thirteen, so reducing the number of
zones to the figures in the double digits chase, amongst
other things. It certainly shows that there's a lot of
(02:22):
this to take on board. Least. Remember this is a
massive document as well, these hundreds of pages.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, so the original RMA from my understanding of seven
hundred and eighty pages, so there's a lot of deciphering
and that, and they definitely want to cut that right
right back and bring it for more of a common sense,
siblistic approach. And you know, when you look at Japan,
that's a lot of similarity there, you know, to day
compared to ours well, you know, and it just leans
(02:49):
towards you know, amalgamations or councils to help the government
streamline all this. Right, So there's a bigger wit of
conversation here and there's definitely a lot of work to
be done before it all lands.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And he can earns around the proposed changes.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm not hearing too many negatives. There's definitely some concerns
around some things, but yeah, it's common sense. At the
end of the day, you know, there's going to be
less cultural requirements through a lot of the consenting process,
which is going to listen the cost and listen the
consent requirements. So you know, it is a good one
and I'll dive into this a lot deeper and you
(03:25):
see what sort of pragmatic approaches and how common sense
it's going to be for farmers because that's what.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We're after Cnason Farm for example, a big big shift
there heritage areas. If there's one found on your farm,
you're entitled to compensation. So yeah, there's a hell of
a lot of this to entail basically, and there's anything
and everything is.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Covered, Yeah, exactly. So it's definitely time for, you know,
a change again and to be honest with the any
people as a whole don't like change, so this will
be quite scary for a lot of people and the
unknowns and we're just got to have faith it that
the processes are going to follow and be done right
and if they're not, will hold into account. And you know,
(04:06):
there's a simple picket to pieces and make sure that
it's going to be a fit for purpose and good
for everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
As far as the yes. Have you been talking to
them this morning regarding the changes.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh, like, I had a brief conversation with Jeremy at
far and there's definitely a lot of details to get through.
And you know, there's going to be a lot less
work for the consent team in the short term because
of the rollover of consent reneurals for the next two years,
which is a great result. So you know they'll be
able to concentrate a little bit more on the other
(04:37):
necessities and the other functions of the council. So yeah,
it will definitely lessen their lessen their workload. That for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's not going to please everybody though, Jason Forrest and
brad Chief Advisor Richard Kape saying it was a mess
of shake up in New Zealand's core environmental and planning laws,
also saying it's rewriting, rewriting the rules that protect our
rivers and lakes, the rules that are needed to make
sure the are four thousand threaten species are brought back
from the brink.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Hey look at it's also says in there that the
environmental standards are going to be the same as what
we currently have now, you know, to the same length
and depth that we have to avide by when we
do go through the consent and process. So you know,
it's not surprising that the lives of forest and burden
there'll be a few more jumping up and down about
this too, because they just like the attention at the
(05:25):
end of the day.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So we can pretty much put this under the care
category of another thing ticked off, Federated Farmers one thing,
the certain issues ticked off this year. I think we're
getting well through your list now, are we not.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, No, they're getting definitely well through the list. And
I know, and we're really happy and stoked that they're
taking us serious because at the end of the day,
culture there's the backbone of the country. You know, look
at good Old South and for instance, you know, forteen
per cent of the GDP at only four percent of
the population. You know, we're betting well above our weight.
And it's and it's to do with the royal sector.
There's no to ways about that. So the government's taking
(05:59):
notice of that and pointing New Zealand in the right
direction in my opinion, and it has been so costly
and it has cost the New Zealand economy so much
for so many years, and for us to get a
bit of progress and heading in the right economic direction,
these changes need to be made. Otherwise we're just going
to keep thinking down the toilet, because at the end
of the day, rates can't continue to rise the way
(06:20):
they are. Our four old pensioners won't be able to
afford to pay their pay their rates on their pension
by twenty thirty five they keep going in that direction.
So the government's really taken notice on the cost of
things and at the end of the day, we've just
got to get back to that common sense approach, don't we.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Is this going to affect South And more than other
regions in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I think it's going to affect every region in New
Zealand the same. You know, at the end of the day,
we've got to be diverse and equitable right across the board,
and you know there's farmers all over New Zealand, not
just South lond But it will also affect the environmental
situation in all the urban sectors as well, right, so
you know it's not just going to have an on
(07:00):
the royal set. It's going to huge impact on the
urban sectors as well. So you know we can all
work together and go as one and be unified in this.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well the perfect case study. In this example, though, Jason
was supposed as David Clark up in Canterbury and the
hopes he was having to jump through courtesy of e
Can to try and get consents for his farm. This
is the perfect example of why this has come about.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Oh exactly. And you know another case up there too
where a notified consent had to happen when they went
for a renewal. You know, they had to have a
public meeting, and the farmer paid seventy thousand dollars for
the public meeting. He turned up to that public meeting
and everything was all good, and he seent some morning
(07:41):
tea on the table there and said he'd helped himself
because he just paid seventy thousand dollars for the process
and promptly got old it was for council stuff only,
so he was quite horrified at that fact.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The attention will be in the detailed profer. Jason Herrick,
thanks very much for your time on the muster. Once again.
If we don't speak again this year, thanks to your time,
enjoy the holiday season and we'll do it again next season.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, you too, ready, you're looking forward to next year.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Jason Herrick of Self Confederated Farmers. Where you're listening to
the muster, we're way to my flat necks. James Edgar
see how things are going up in his neck. Neck
of the woods. Here in West Otago, you could bear
the wor
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