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January 25, 2026 44 mins

Andy Muir talks to Andy Dennis, Penny Simmonds, Greg Erickson, Ben Dooley and Josh Burnett.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon. Welcome to the muster on Hokanui. My name's
Andy Muir. We're hear until two o'clock thanks to Peters Genelix.
I'd a rather damp afternoon hearing gore. If you're coming
into town this afternoon, bring your jacket. Not that you
probably in need me to tell you that based on
the weather over the weekend, which was cold, it was wet,

(00:36):
although saying that they managed to finish the T twenty
competition for South and Senior cricket yesterday, So congratulations with
Killy Killey winning an eight over slug fest against Applebee.
Those guys, those two teams building up a big rivalry indeed,
and Cookie and Cow, I hope you're all coherent today.
Look at you're in for a big night last night.

(00:58):
Well carry on though, bound Kayleie Bound Kayleie bow Kiwi
Chunes Winter.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
On Poknui's five day forecast with twin Farm tef from
and subtext. The proof is in the progeny tear from
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Speaker 1 (01:15):
This afternoon Shells of Breezy sal Westerly is in thirteen
Tuesday Morning Shellers of Breezy Sell Westerly six and thirteen.
Wednesday cloudy with northwest is forming fifteen and twenty two,
so that's a bit warmer. Thursday shellers of brisk westerly
seven and seventeen, and Friday partly cloudy with the breezy
westerly six and eighteen. As we look at sold temperatures

(01:37):
Clinton fifteen point four, Northern south Of fourteen point five,
Brethertons sixteenth town now fifteen point eight, Winter fourteen point
three in Woodlands fourteen point eight. Andy Dinner starts us
off in the Satin Dan farming round up. He farms
up in the Fjordland basin and we catch up a
cack and to see how things have been if they've

(01:58):
been getting this moisture that the rest of the province
has seen. Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargill and Minister
for the Environment is on the show, and then Greg
Erickson lives over at Millet and Canada where he's involved
in it and the arable industry. Formerly a boy Mumu.
We catch up with Greg to see how the farming
bibers in Canada, especially with the situation regarding the Trump

(02:21):
government at the moment. Ben Dooey Sheep beef and YouTube
farmer based just out of Windham, has a chat and
then Josh Burnette, three time winner of the SBS Tour
of Bank Tour SBS Bank Tour of Southland get it right.
So we catch up with Josh and see how he's
feeling after his big success from the weekend. And we'll

(02:44):
start the hour next anyway with Andy Dennis. You're listening
to the muster until two o'clock. She's to Peter's Genetics.

(03:11):
Andy Dennis farms in the Fieldland Basin just out of
Menapouri and joins us in the Sergeant d and Farming
round up. Thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock. Foods here and
go Kecker. Good afternoon and welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Every don't yeah, welcome to a new year. I suppose
I don't think I've been on since since twenty five.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
We can't remember now that you'll be correcting that we
haven't spoken to you since last year.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Oh good, good good, Yeah? Happy here everyone?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yes, what are we last week of January? Bugger? We
can say that all things in the basin I.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Thinks are really good. Yeah no, yeah, feed the barn,
which is good after the sort of twelve months of
head it's nice to everybody. Quality underneath. Yeah, and I
sort of write all that rain is now paying off,
which is good, so long way at last we give
us a little bit more hate the same as everyone else.

(04:05):
But it sounds like the whole of Safe haven't got
a bit of ruin over the weekend. So yeah, no,
it's nice to every one sort of getting a bit
of run, and prices are good and things are on
the outpay.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
No, so it's not really anything to talk about today.
It's a hunky dory still positive.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, I know it's there's not there wrong with they
neither to be. It's a bit of a positive spending.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Every now and then.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Absolutely, So you're working your way through the lambs, all right.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I haven't touched anythings since waning. Yeah, we'll we wait
some earlier on. They're not quite there, so we'll just
make sure we get a and we can only see
them once, so we'll just keep putting weight on. And
you're probably sort of starting on sort of the middle
of February, maybe a wee bit earlier, just depending on
how things go. But like I said, we've got plenty

(04:51):
of feed. It's sort of it still heats the quality.
There's a good clover in the bottom. So there's plenty
of lamb feed around and so we'll just keep keep,
aren't really Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You say you only sell them once and if there's
no real panic, if you've got the tucker, then white stress.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, Like our laming was way back, just from a
dry and then a bad skinning and then all that
rain sort of didn't help. So our skinnings, our lambing's
a long way back. So every sort of lamb counts
this year, and make sure we can get plenty of
weight on every single one years the plan. So so far,
so good with the summer we're having.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, would you say this time of year is one
of the better times on farm indye where you can
see you're getting your you're getting through the lambs, you
can see the tucker there and actually understand what the
season's doing for you.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, you're probably right. Like, obviously we were wet right through.
It's sort of been cold the whole way through, so
things could be better heat wise, and I think that
would sort of have a positive effect on lamb growth.
But like the deer, my wieners have never never ran
as well or I've been able to get some really

(06:03):
good weights on them this year, and so whatever it is,
it suited them being a weey bit colder or not sure,
but yeah, it's nice to sort of you know, it's
always just crazy up to New Year, isn't it, isn't it?
And you get that out of the road, and then
you've got to come back and do a few jobs.
And then it's nice being able to just get away

(06:23):
for five days here and five days there, and yeah,
spend some time with the kids. I didn't realize the
kids go back to school Friday, so suddenly the summer
holidays are done, which is a wee bit disappointing really,
because yeah, you can always use more time with them,
and you know, in another week will be sort of

(06:44):
even less busy, so suddenly you know it would be
nice to be away doing some some more stuff. But
that's here.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
That's here it goes, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
When they start growing up?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
So the kids starts going a Friday.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I think the fuel and college year thirteen's and
the first what's that, year seven? They go back on Thursday,
and then the year eight's going on Friday, and then
I think the rest of them start back on Mondays.
So yeah, for the end of Yeah, I think it's
the thirtieth for January is their first day, so pretty odd.
But anyway, that's there.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
It is.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
It just diagnates and you're hearing of some schools not
going back till afterwards any day for goodness sake.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah right, Okay, well that's probably that's probably the perfect idea, really,
isn't it. Yeah, get a bit more work out of
them and yeah, or by the way, they hadn't been
great anywhere, so it's probably going to be the best
week of the year leading up that to that weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Do you think the school holidays though it's too long,
having seven weeks.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Ah, I'm a farmer, Andy, what, it's not my department.
I have no idea, and I'm would be they could probably. Yeah,
it's good when they start arriving for winning and that
sort of thing. And then yeah, it all depends. I know.
I know plenty of mothers probably are pretty keen to
get rid of them at this time of year, and

(08:04):
some dads want to get a bit more work at
of them. So you never please everyone.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You're doing a bit of crutching on the lambs today,
fly straight. We've talked about this a bit recently you're
finding a bit.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, well suddenly, well we've sort of had a wet,
muggy weekend and we had nothing on Wednesday, and there's
probably twenty twenty with just fly on their bums. So yeah,
four days later. So I'm glad it's getting done. I
don't like to dip too much, just will dip for
the sake of dipping. I'm just a bit worried about

(08:36):
sort of that resistance building up. So yeah, they'll get
to crutch there and hopefully we can get through the sharing.
But yeah, it just sort of needs some real good
hot days, I think, just to dry things out of
weave it. But yeah, we had an outbreak of green
fly in the tudous in December and that was that
was odd, and then we end up dipping them because

(08:57):
I was worried about it. But it almost came right
by itself. So yeah, away we go again. So hm hmmm,
let's hear that's there's always something, isn't there?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
So how often do you dip?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I try and keep it it once a year and
don't do any work slams or trade lambs or anything. Yeah,
just try and squeeze through. It's funny people think the
basin would be bad for fly, but we can get
some you know, that real good heat. Whereas the rest
of southing sort of can go muggy in that sort
of late summer, we can get some real good, you know,
central Targo sort of heat, and so it almost if

(09:31):
you can squeeze through without it, you just end up
sort of dipping for lice. The US and the lambs
sort of off the shears. Really your U lambs replacement
stock go through once as.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
All wonder crops, how are they fearing?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Swedes are amazing. We just sort of keep getting strikes
in them, which is great. I've had yeah, three petics
of kale that are sort of just a real poor strike.
So we've redrilled the world one of the the worst
one of them. But yeah, we don't know why. I
think it was too weak going in or not warm

(10:08):
enough going in, and then we heavy rolled it. It's
sort of over next to the wire, the lower wire,
so it's sort of sandy country and whether it's just
sort of pained at the top. But yeah, the plant
numbers weren't near so but everything with red rilled is
fantastic now. So yeah, there'll just be a few thinner
Carol peddics, but everything else is amazing. Gun grass has

(10:30):
got plenty of spurry and yarring it, but these lambs
on me near knocking it all over. So yeah, the
curse of the white flare.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Hey, going on, you you carry on. We always appreciate
your time and you enjoyed at the end of school holidays.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, well another four days. I have to go and
find them today. I hope I'm supposed to be picking
them up, but they're gone walk about in Tiana somewhere.
But yeah, if they don't if they don't know, if
I can't find them, we'll just have to come to
twilight tonight and then it'll be it.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Good cake, a good luck fight of the kids. Andy
Dennis Farming up at Menapori, MP from the Cargo. Penny
Simmons is up next. This is the Muster. Penny Simmons

(11:24):
is MP from the Cargo as well as being Minister
for the Environment amongst other portfolio is Good afternoon, Penny,
and welcome once again.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yes, good afternoon, Andy, and boy, wet weekend but it
was what we needed. We needed the rain, although could
have done without the temperature dropping quite so much. But
certainly it's good to get that rain, but by golly,
nothing compared to what they have been getting up in
the Bay of Plenty and up further north. You have

(11:53):
to feel for them. It's only three years ago, exactly
three years ago that they had the big Auckland Anniversary floods.
And the reason I remember it is we had Christopher
Luxen coming to crank Up weekend and he had to
fly up to Auckland because of the flooding and he

(12:14):
didn't get to crank Up day. So yes, three years ago,
the big floods in Northland, Auckland, they have plenty curramandel
and now dealing with this again. So pretty tragic up there,
and I guess the mood is pretty somber up there.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Absolutely I appreciate that. And look, the rain down here
has been appreciated, probably not so much the cold of temperatures,
but listening to a lot of farmers and they're just
saying the same thing. We needed that rainfall. So January
almost you could wipe it off as been just another month,
and some's going to start in February.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Perhaps, yeah, well hopefully, yes, I mean I'm looking out
the window and everything's looking nice and green and fresh
now after the weekend of heading away to Wellington this afternoon.
But looking out there now, Southlands looking pretty good and
it will freshen things up and it's what it is,
what we needed. But yeah, hopefully it's going to turn

(13:14):
and we can get some sunshine and get those soil
temperatures up again and crank up day, crank up weekend.
They'll be certainly hoping for next weekend that the temperatures improve,
and it looks like it will. It's always a good
weekend and it gives an opportunity for rural people to
get out and about, so yeah, he's hoping that's a
good weekend for them.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Absolutely. It's just a continuation of what is going to
be a busy month or so down here in the South.
We've got Southern Field Days coming up as well. There's
multi sport events occurring at the end of February and
there's a plethora of things going on. And just speaking
to one of the workers in the pub there the
other night, she is just saying, gors cranking at the moment.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
As far as hospitality, yes, yes, it will be, Yes,
We've got a busy time over Field Days as well.
We'll have a stand there and we've got the Prime
Minister down he's doing some visits down here on the
Wednesday and then going to field Day's Thursday. And then
I've got the Minister of Finance Nicola Willis down going

(14:14):
to do some visits and then go to the field
Days on Friday afternoon. So it'll be good to have
both of them there at the field Days and really
good to have the visits some local businesses, some local
exporters to see how well Southland's doing, because it does
feel like Southlanders is going well at the moment. I

(14:37):
suppose there's a few dairy farmers watching very carefully what
happens with the prices that they don't go down too
much further. But look, the province is still punching well
above its weight and that's great to see. Just as
another event that's on not here but in Dunedin is
the Master's Games and we have from Southland the oldest competitor,

(15:02):
Peter Grandike. He's ninety four years old and he's going
to try and set a world record there for cycling
for his age group to do twenty k's in an hour.
So what a tremendous effort at ninety four being a
cyclist and looking at setting a world record, and as

(15:24):
he said, he's just very grateful that he's out there
doing it. He was brought up and occupied Holland, and
he's a man that's very grateful for the opportunities that
he has.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Ninety four and riding a bicycle. That's pretty good going
in anyone's book, it certainly is, and so.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
We wish him all the very best for his world
record attempt of twenty k's.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
In an hour absolutely puts a lot of us to shame. Now,
November seventh, election day. It's been set, Yes it has.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Yes, So we had caucus last week and searching. The
election day was set and so or everything works back
from them then the day and when we have to
have nominations in buy and when we can start advertising
all those sort of things. So yeah, I think it's
going to be a very long election year. It feels

(16:16):
like it started already.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, Parliament's cranking up this week, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
So it all begins, yes, yes, it absolutely does. All
begins tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
So what happens in the first week when you go
back up there is a like going back to school
for the first day for the year and just reconnecting,
eating sausage rolls and seeing what's what making a plan.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
No, look, it's pretty much straight into it. We've been
getting our weekend bags for a couple of weeks now,
so eight thirty tomorrow I've got meetings with my education
officials and then later in the day meetings with my
environment officials. So no, it's it's straight into it.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
One thing there has been an issue and probably should
be discussed this week, Penny, as regarding three G, it's
being switched off. If there's one thing we learned back
in the winds in October, we had no rural connectivity
apart from perhaps a little bit of three G coming
through on cell phones. This is being switched off, and
I'm hearing all the time. This is a really contentious issue,

(17:14):
especially for rural New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, look, I agree, Andy, and it's something that
I'm going to bring up at caucus this week because
it looks like it's too early, and so I'm going
to see if there's any way that it can be
delayed for our regional from Regional New Zealand, because I
know that it was a major issue in cyclone. Gabrielle

(17:39):
and I think there's pretty significant issues again this time
in the Bay of Plenty. So it's that communications. That
lack of communications was one of the biggest worries in
the rural areas. We've got people that are vulnerable where
their accidents occurring. So yep, it's something I'll be bringing

(17:59):
up realistically.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
What chance of Turco's listened though and say okay, we're
going to delay this until we can find something that
future proofs ural connectivity. Because we can talk about internet,
we can talk about anything and everything. For goodness, say
you talk about broadband. It's still a massive concern.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yeah, Look, it is a massive concern. And I know
we did talk about it after cyclone. Gabrielle and I
did bring it up in October, and Joseph Mooney and
I both talked about it in caucus. So I think
this latest situation and may have Plenty will have brought
it to the four again, So it's certainly worth us

(18:37):
having another crack at it.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yes, certainly is good on your penny, Always appreciate your
time on the Muster and happy first week back up
there in Wellington.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Looking forward to it okay, thanks, Andy, Bay.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Jenny Simmons MP from the Cargo as well as being
Minister for the Environment, you're listening to the Muster up next,
we're a way to can catching up with Greg Erickson,
based at Millet but formerly of boy Moomood.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
The Muster on the farm with Southland District Council working
together for a better Southland.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Greg Rickson is formerly of boy moo Moove, but these
days he lives with his wife Ashley and family over
at Millet and Canada, where he's involved in the arable sector. Greg,
good afternoon, Great to chat once again.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Hey good Andy.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Firstly, we look at the season that's been. The song
here is called that Summer by Kaylee Ball has been
anything but here in the Deep South for what is
supposed to be one of our warmer months over there
in Canada. Though you guys are in the depths of
like going into the minuses on a regular basis, Yes.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yeah, definitely yeah. We Well, apart from last week, we
had a bit of a reprieve where it was minu
plus three for a while plus eight we excuseually around
the minus fifteen for two months, getting down to minus
forty Celsius.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
How do you handle that? Coming from Southland US, it
gets cold, but it doesn't get that cold.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
See.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
The thing is, when it gets that cold, there's no
moisture around, especially when it like and Alberta. There's not
a lot of lakes, so there's not a lot of
humidity in the air as you get down to those temperatures,
so it doesn't really get into your bones as bad
as it does. And say Ontario, where there's lots of lakes,
so it's cold, they're wrong. It's really cold, but if

(20:34):
there is no wind, it's definitely manageable.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
In general, though, how's the season being over there? Obviously
it's cold, but you learn to tolerate that and it's
just business as usual. Then.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, more or less.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
We had a very dry autumn and the combine was
really easy, but then because it was so dry, we
kind of needed some moisture and then we've had a
ton of snow, so we are sitting for the next year.
But the cold has come with the snow and the wind,
and it's it's been a little cold of a normal defect.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So what's your main focus on the farm at the moment?

Speaker 5 (21:13):
The part we'll fix some stuff is usually the trick
in the winter. And then well, we've also got four
hundred cattle that they go to calve in four weeks,
so that's sort of winding down to that.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
And those cattle talking to we spoke I think last
November Greg and those prices were astronomic to say the least.
Are we seeing a continuation?

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Oh yes, yes, I went to the cattle action last
week and so a well eight hundred pounds actually almost
any eight months or ten month old cow or calf
will go for four thousand dollars Canadian?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is that just supply and demand? Is that all this
is at play?

Speaker 5 (21:58):
I think though the numbers are partently low in North
America and Canada and the States, the hard numbers are
particularly low. So until they recover, the numbers are going
the prices are going to still be up and up,
like these are record prices they had last week, so
I assume it's going to keep going up.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
As far as arable prices, what's happening.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Wheat is pretty stagnant at about two hundred and thirty
two hundred and forty bucks a ton canola has gone up.
It's so Canada did a little bit of a deal
took some tariffs off with China last week. So now
that now the canola price has gone up slightly, they
up around the six fifty a ton, and yeah, bali

(22:46):
is virtually nothing, so it's gone up slightly, but yeah,
there's still not a lot of money in it.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
So what's driving the bali market being seen disappointing?

Speaker 4 (23:00):
That's a great question.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
I don't think. I think the market in the States
has had a pretty good year yield wise, so they don't.
There's a fear bit floating around, so they don't. They're
not chasing it.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
So the Donald Trump effect, We've spoken to you in
the past, and for a start it was like what
are we up against, to the point that a lot
of his threats they seem to get reneggs more often
than not. What are we seeing now with Canadian and
Canada in general and Donald Trump and these tariffs.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Well, he keeps threatening things. So because Canada and China
did a little bit of a deal flash removed tariffs,
Trump came back and said that if there is a
free trade deal, he'll put one hundred percent tariffs on
and then kept referring to Mark Conney, the Prime Minister
of Canada as the governor of the fifty first state

(23:52):
of America. Anyway, because he does this, we sort of
just ignore it now because he keeps backing off on
all this rich But you know, nothing like that will
ever actually happen. I don't think it's just talk.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
So it's just a case of whenever Trump opens his
mouth regarding Canada, you take it with a grain of salt.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
You do these days. You can only throw wolf so
many times.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
The other thing about Canada, of course, it's a member
of the Commonwealth. The King rules over you effectively with
the Prime Minister, like you say, Prime Minister Carne, Are
the Canadian people proud to be part of the Commonwealth
or they're not too fast?

Speaker 5 (24:31):
I think so generally yes. So whenever there's an election,
the Governor General has to go to the King, and
so the Governor of actually speaks for the King. But
the day talk and an election cannot happen without the
approval basically with it of the King or the king spokesman. However,
when it all comes up and everyone starts talking about

(24:52):
it every four years, it gets quite everyone's quite passionate
about it. It's not something that Canada's going to get
rid of in the next while. At least it's there's
very few people saying that we should leave whenever it
comes up.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
As far as the cost of living crisis over there,
does it exist.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
It is disappearing. So inflation has been down at hunder
three percent for the last almost a year, and we're
expecting a well, I think we're going to have an
interest rate rise in the next six months. So I
think that the cost of living basically is finished. Everything
is just the fattest quoe.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Now Prime Minister Mark Canney, he's still doing a good job.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Then, I think so.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
I think so he's doing a I think he's doing
a better job than most people expected. He, like Justin Trudeau,
sort of led this country down in a bit of
a garden path, but he's bringing it back and everyone
seems to be well. It's approve of rating just went
up fifteen percent over the last three months, so I
guess you gotta everyone kind of agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Most people do.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Just finally, Greg, the all Blacks are after a new coach.
I dare say that this has has hardly seen shock
waves through Canada as such.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
No, not at all, Nope, Nope, if it doesn't involve
a hockey puck and skates, and people here don't know
anything about it.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Likes of basketball the enough NFL have they got much
of a profile there.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yeah, so the NBA. When when the Toronto Raptors won
the NBA, it was a big big deal. And then
last year the Toronto Blue Jays which is the baseball team,
they they were in the final and so that was
a big big deal and the NFL that So there's
a Canadian version of the NFL, and it's it's dwindling,

(26:53):
but the NFL is massive, is pretty big here, and
hockey is in highly unrivaled nothing matter. It is everywhere
you look.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
There is.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Like Sky the Sky Sports version here. There's four or
five channels and every game, if there's another game playing,
there's highlights on all four or five of those channels constantly.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I can quite believe that. Greg Kay, thanks very much
for your time once again on the Muster. All the
best over there and we'll catch up again. Thanks Andy,
Greg Erickson formerly Avoyd Moomoo, now based over at Millet
and Kennedy. You're listening to the Muster. Ben Dooley is
up next, but closer to home. He's spaced just out
of window. Welcome back to the muster. The music today

(27:47):
is Kaylee Bow. That song is called Nights like This,
All days like this. It's rather dull truth be known.
Just overcast, but a fog as you look out on
the hills, and moisture and a plenty around the province
by the sound of it. As we catch up with
Ben Dooley, Sheep Beef and YouTube Farber based not far
out of Windom, Good afternoon, Ben Hell's things today?

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah good, Andy's pretty good. Cold and wet, but we're
not going to grizzle too much at this time of year,
about that, so yeah, yeah, she might be a four
inch five inch month by the time we get to
the end of it.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Did you need this moisture?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Did we need it? It's sort of one of those
hard things. We're definitely not going to, you know, not
that we've got the option, we're not going to say
we didn't want it. We were certainly looking for a
bit of moisture. When we went away to Glendu on
the twelfth. We were still going good, but it was
just that whole fear of if we don't get rain
from now till mid March, it's not going to be
that pretty, but I'd say now, if we don't get

(28:45):
rain between now and mid March, it will just about
to be a best case scenario. So yeah, not desperately needed,
but I hear there were plenty of places up northern
South and way that we're looking for it. But yeah,
we're pretty happy to get it.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Just a wee bit cooler though. I mean, what was
yesterday's high about tender for goodness sake?

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, the old sweet corn I've got up there that
week third about acre or whatever it is. It's certainly
not doing very well. It's lacking some heat, but that
seeing everything else is going good for it. There's still
heaps of grass and clover around, swedes are looking absolutely phenomenal.
And yeah, the sweet corner is the last thing I'm
worried about, even though that tastes really good. Well, we'll
make the money and we can go back at the supermarket,
can't we.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
So the lamb's looking pretty good, yeap, just having a
way up now.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
These earlies, we haven't been through them since in November,
but we're getting probably ten fifteen percent of them off
at over forty eight, so they should go pretty well.
And there's another line there be able to say number
forty six to forty eight, So I'll make a decision
whether I've seen them or not. We'll see what the
final numbers are. But yeah, just just keep chipping away
at these things. We haven't been through them for a while,

(29:46):
so but we'll do that. Put more cash in the
bench and yeah, no, everything else around the place looks
to be going pretty good.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like you say, you've been at gleen Dew both the
family over the past couple of weeks was that organized scale.
It went pretty smoothly.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It was a bit of both really. Yeah, it's a
pretty chaotic time. My brother in law and I don't
like not being busy, and we've got five boys between us,
and they all were four of them, one of them
to the baby. The rest of them all love being NonStop.
So the last few days of holidays, they're pretty tired,
they're pretty exhausted and get pretty grumpy, but they have
a pretty good time there, and of course the mums

(30:21):
just like to have their holiday too, So yeah, she's
a pretty hepnic time, but pretty good one at the
same time. It's any memories and yeah, good get away
you don't exactly come back feeling physically refreshed, but you
certainly do mentally.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Hey, Dyl's we'll talk about this. It's been a contentious issue.
It's a big issue nonetheless regarding wind farms, but the
issue seems to be regarding fast track legislation now. Shane
James's adamant has punchline being drill, baby, drill, But a
lot of the time it seems to be these things
are going through without community consultation, and the concern there

(30:59):
from ops anyway looking at it is that if you're
not consulting with the community around something is going to
affect them. Yes, it's great for the economy, but you
need to be on the same thinking is what the
area is going to effect is on the same wavelengths
as such.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Look, we're going through that whole
phase now with the arid up evil of what's going
to happen there, and we're not we're not exactly sure.
And ultimately what we do know is that it's going
to reinforce private property rights a bit more and we
definitely needed that because the previous system, you know, it
didn't take doing much to have a publicly notified consent

(31:36):
go up, and then you could have anyone opposing. There
was that, oh the legal crowd and de need and
I forget what they are that some charity organization have
set them up. There, a whole lot of vegans basically
that just opposed anything to do with farming. They were
popping up there Frot and Center, causing a whole lot
of trouble, and there were a lot of people having

(31:56):
a say on things that had no effect on them.
The flips of that, I guess is that it's a
very nuanced discussion that you need to have a degree
of community consultation in there. And I do think these
fast track proposals I kind of support the idea of them.
They are there to get things done and things need
to get done. But yeah, when it comes to wind farms,

(32:17):
I'm sort of sitting there gad, And there's already a
lot riding against those things. They're not as good as
people might think they are. And yeah, this one, I
just get the feeling they might have made the wrong Well,
they haven't made the decision yet, but I just get
the feeling it's not going to be the right call
at the end of it. If they letn't go ahead.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
So what do you think they should do to counter this?
You think dams are the answer.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Hydro Yeah, that's another hard one, isn't it. Like the
dams we've got are amazing. I think I'd have to
double check. But off the top of my head, the
energy return on investment from a wind turbine is about
six to one. So what that's saying is when you
add up the energy required and the concrete, the transport,
the manufacturing, they will only ever return about six times

(33:02):
the energy that was required to build them, a lot
of that energy being derived from fossil fuels to build
them in the first place. They I think it's about
eight hundred gallons of oil to be changed every year
or two years per a terribine. Now that isn't directly
an emission thing, but it's still a wasted it's a
pollution thing. It's a lot of oil. They do have

(33:23):
a fire risk, they have a high failure out. They
don't last that long. And when we look on the
New Zealand thing where a hydro dam varies between eighty
and two hundred and forty to one for its energy
return on investment and the financial figures aren't quite as
far aspart, quite as far apart, but they're still a
long way in favor of hydro. It could be four
or five times, I guess the thing with hydro though,

(33:46):
same deal these one terribines will They are negatively affecting people,
you know, and it is a visual pollution thing. I
guess you'd say they're not flooding your farm land. I
think the days of buying up huge tracks of farmland
to build a high are possibly about done. But there's
still a lot of potentially out there for smaller scale
hydro things, the likes of White Creek, the Roaring Meg,

(34:08):
things like that. There's still plenty of potentially out there
to do things. They might not be quite as efficient
as the big ones, but they certainly leave the winterbines
for dead, and I do think, but not the one
on the west coast that I think initially got denied,
and it might be going ahead now they run a
river when I forget the name of the river over there.
But yeah, my opposition to these windterbines is not so

(34:29):
much where they're going to be.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
What is because the.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Pair is not needed down here, It's needed up north
the whole or not in my backyard though. But yeah,
the fact that the return on investment on them is
just so poor that we need to be going down
other revenues rather than chasing these bloody winterbores.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
The solar panels have a place.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Perhaps five years ago I would have said, no, complete
waste of time. I'm pretty opposed to them in south
and being put up on productive farmland. Mike Casey credit
where credits due spout a few myths. I think he's
also created a few more as well. But yeah, when
you actually start doing the math on it's solar, I
think I'll be far more in favor of then winter

(35:09):
e mones. But solar on rooftops, solar on car parks,
you know, be sensible about it. Yeah, it might cost
a bit more to do, but let's just not take
the productive farmland and put it up in bloody solar panels.
Because there's plenty of cases we're seeing now in Australia, America, Canada,
even the UK where Chinese companies come in I shouldn't
say Chinese, but foreign companies come in and they buy

(35:29):
these generating units and then when the time comes to
get rid of them, they just walk away and leave
a giant nests. They've got no liability. So there's lots
of once again nuance and that discussion about how we
control that, and it's the whole private property rights. How
do we do that while still protecting people's rights to
do what they want. But yeah, if any government money
is involved, I would say not on productive farmland in

(35:52):
south and that I'd be very opposed to. But if
people want to put them on their roofs, like I'm
standing under a roof now that's about two thousand square meters,
you know, that can hold a lot of a lot
of solar panels. Yeah, so there's definitely option there, but
once again, they have a very low energy return on
investment compared to say a hydro or a geothermal or

(36:14):
something relying on nature, you know, particularly with water. It
just seems to be the most efficient way to do it.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
You're certainly going to be interesting how this plays out.
Deals Always appreciate your time, No blood, Ben Dooley. Before
we wrap up, we're catching up with Josh Burnett, a
Spank Tour of Southland winner for the third time. That

(36:46):
says the master iro hakanuid spank tourist Southland finished over
the weekend and this be honest, we need a one
day of hitteous weather and we got it on Saturday.
Not that it matter to our next guest, Josh Burnette,
three time Tour of Southland winner, which is a pretty
esteemed company. The Josh Holes, lots of the Ryan Fowlers
and the likes. So he's joining us this afternoon just

(37:08):
to look back on the week and having a tour
in January down here in the South. Josh welcome. Always
good to chat and first to congratulations on the three peat.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
If I have any back on And yeah, it was
a superstitious week to the back racing on home roads,
and yeah, obviously gets to the streets are times, but yeah,
I was just super grateful for the support out there
and he had to check it off in the end.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
What does it mean to win something like the Tour
of Southland three times?

Speaker 7 (37:38):
I think, yeah, it's hard to put him to words.
Each year I seem to get more and more support
and signs out there on the road, and I think
it's just cool to be able to do it in
front of all my friends and family, because I don't
really get that opportunity much anymore. Racing so far away
from home in Europe. So I think it's just cool
to you know, have something so significant of my sport

(38:01):
and my community is not many people can say that,
And yeah, to win it, I think just really taps
it off for everyone involved.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Now, straight off the calf. Normally this event is held
in October, but the obvious was the weather. It got
delayed until January. Did it detract from the event at all,
Josh or to add a little bit more mistake as such?

Speaker 7 (38:23):
Yeah, I think it maybe built up the hyph levels
a little bit. Some of the Audie boys couldn't come over,
but a few more other guys could, so it changed
it slightly. But when it comes to you know, the
stages and the weather, I think everything was pretty much
the same. So yeah, it was just a massive credit

(38:43):
to the organizing committee for being able to move the
race on such short notice because it's a bit of
a logistical nightmare bike race. So yeah, I just take
my head off to them.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Interesting, you use the word stressful in your opening Stenza,
and I suppose when you come to an event like that,
it's sort of about being in the zone and the legs.
When you talk about the strets, when you're doing something
like the Tourist South and what comes to mind from
an athlete's perspective.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
What you can control, and then yeah, make certain situations happen.
Where's one of my teammates he broke his arm and
we had a few other guys and different places on
the road, and I didn't really know what was happening.
So yeah, you just got to try do the bits
you can with limited information sometimes and yeah, sometimes it

(39:31):
goes in your favor and sometimes it doesn't. So yeah,
I think it's just kind of making quick and decisive
decisions and just kind of praying that they're going to
be the right ones.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
So when you prepare for an event like this, it
doesn't deviate from the October edition as such.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
Because this is the fast race of the year for me,
so definitely wouldn't be at my top level yet, so
it was the more of a slow build into the
year rather if it's a no BnB, you can, i
don't know, kind of throw everything at it and then
take a break. So yeah, unfortunately no break for me
this time around, but yeah, hopefully it's a good sign

(40:12):
for the next races to come.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Now you're riding pro over in Europe at the moment,
and one of the quotes I read earlier on was
that as good being in south and you can understand
the roads, so it's not that something that happens over there,
but getting people to come over and when you explain
what the tour of South Ender is about, do they
get keen to come over and get involved.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
Yeah, it's I'm pretty cool able to show them, you know,
all the fantastic photos that James Shubb takes and all
the all the videos on YouTube from the media team.
I just really show pieces region and what it's all about.
So lots of guys you know, to come to New
Zealand and South of all places is definitely up there

(40:55):
just because of the bike race. So I think that's
just pretty pretty special really to get a bit of
hype and yeah, interest in the region from a bike race,
in my opinion is yeah, is super cool.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Now, the gravel stage over the Glenn newle was cut
this year. Were you disappointed by that?

Speaker 7 (41:15):
Yeah, I really like that stage. I think it's it's
definitely missing from the race and I hope it comes back.
I know it's quite logistically hard.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
To do with.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
The grading and the roadworks sometimes, but I really think
that would be a great addition if we can could
bring that back to the race.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So just how texting is it doing an event like
that so full on for a week, Josh? Like as
far as recovery, how long do you give yourself after
six seven days in the settle that have been full.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
On, one day off that back training today? Well jeepers, Yeah,
it doesn't really slow down. But yeah, it's obviously I've
got my whole season to hit in me, so it's
just I'm slowly built into my year. So it's been
a good start, but hopefully some some more good results
are going to come as well this year.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Okay, so the season ahead for Josh Burnitt, what does
it hold? When do you go back overseas.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
I've got Road National Champs next Saturday, and then I'll
go back to Europe on the next day on the Sunday,
so and then we're just pretty much racing, not all
the way into mid October. So it's a full on year.
But yeah, I'm really excited to get back.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
To it, and of course the event is happening in October.
We're going back to the twelve month cycle as such.
Are you hoping to come back and defend your crow
on youse again.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
I have no idea what I'm going to be doing
in the October and then the next year, so yeah,
I can't th thinkink about that year. I've just got
seven months of other races to focus on and then
I'll work out where abouts I am and make your
plan from there.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
So like's a Saturday night, did you have a celebratory
drink after what you achieved? Were just two naked they
we may have had a couple, so it was it
was a good good night.

Speaker 7 (43:05):
And yeah, it was just so good to you. Clerate
with some of my good mates.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Hey, Josh Bronette, three time Tour of Southland, spent Tour
of Southland winner, Thanks very much your time on the muster.
Congratulations on the achievement and a big year hit for you.
Yes again, always appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Cheers where nobody laugh out loud with ag proud because
life on the land can be a laughing matter.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
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The podcasts going up shortly. I'm and yma. You've been
listening to the Muster on Hakanui, Che's to Peter's Genetics.

(43:58):
Enjoy the afternoon, See you tomorrow, oh s.
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