January 26, 2026 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Don Morrison, Matt Ward, Graham Butcher, Alan McLeary, Josh Bennett and Sam Riley.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My
name is Andy Muer. We're here until two o'clock this afternoon,
and the show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics.
As I look out over main Street, it's overcast. It's
probably a little bit cooler than Victoria and Australia. I
think Melbourne today is looking at forty seven degrees or
forty five degrees something ridiculous like that. So rest assured
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Gore isn't getting that hot today, although a little bit
of sudden will be good. We'll talk with it shortly.
Tunes for today, though the fine young cannonballs. If I see.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and subtext,
the proof is in the progeny tear from dot co
dot insad.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
This afternoon cloudy, wul like south westerly is and sixteen
Wednesday cloudy with breezy west northwesterlyes fifteen to twenty two
Thursday reign developing of braezy westerly seven and eighteen. Friday
sunny with breezy easterly six and eighteen, and Saturday sunny
with northwesterlyies forming six and twenty one saw temperatures to
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Hanclinton fifteen point seven, Harriet twelve point four, Robyn south
And fourteen point four, Riverton fifteen point seven to now
sixteen point one, Winton fourteen at Woodlands fourteen point six.
Don Morrison of Willowbanks starts us off This afternoon. Matt
Ward is on the program farming at Morton Mainz and
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he tells me that rugby season is starting very surely
for his club Eden Dull and a couple of things
in the pipeline for the season that yeah, I'd like
to mention I suppose more than anything and the rest
to see what he means. There. Alan McCleary's Shrewoure, New
Zealand's on the show as his Graham Butcher farm consultant,
talking about dairy grazing and as well the food pyramid.
(02:07):
It's been looked at and if you believe certain people
have been told that it's all wrong. And Josh Bennett
from My Tiny Young Farmers has a chat, as does
Sam Riley from PGG writes and with an update from
the Lauville sale Yards. Then we'll start the hour with
Howie This is the muster until two o'clock thanks to
Peter's genetics. Don Morrison farms at Willow Bank and joins
(02:44):
us this afternoon on the muster, Good afternoon, Howie fine
young Cannonballs, Johnny come home. That song there, it sounds
like it takes you back to the eighties.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Takes you back to the eighties. Andy and I think
they can remember skiing in Austria, which sounds pretty pretty exotic.
And that was a head at about that time, so
that was definitely mid eighties. So yeah, great memories.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
What was it like skiing in Austria in the mid eighties,
It would have been pretty surreal.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Andy is a bit lucky. We were working in London
and you'd save all your money and went in did
three months solid skiing and it was pretty awesome. In
the kits kits Ball ski field. You will have heard
of anyone that's end of the skiing. Well know of
the Hunter come down the Hell Race which is at
Kit's Ball. So pretty magic time and you know, a
bit spoiled because when you come back to New Zealand
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and ski, you're never going to ski, skip out and
ski that great stuff like you get in the Alps.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Look, we moved to the present. It's a couple of
days ago we'd talk about Fineian Cannibal's coming out with
their tunes howe. But look, you're killing you lambs today,
ram lambs culling lamb. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, So we've got a reasonable sight between the different
breeds we've got here, got three or four different breeds,
and so there's probably about there might be about fifteen
hundred stud ram lambs that we haven't taken any out of.
So we're giving them. They've been weighed at weaning go
to another way yesterday, and now we're going to do
a culling, and so we'll give us some more lambs
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to kill, so a bit earlier than we normally cull.
But when they're.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Heavy they might as well be gone.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, they're doing pretty well then if you're culling them
a little bit earlier than normal.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Ah, it's normally not so much that ending. It's normally
by the time you do all your measurements. So we
give a weaning weight and then normally a thirty day
or a fifty day after that, and then another another
thirty or fifty days after that, just to get that
growth profile for all the breeding venues. So this will
be the second weight and where we're able to do
a culling. Do a culling now just to just to
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soaken grass, get some animals off the place.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So how intensive is it running a stud farm?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So it's busy. It's the work at Lamonton because you've
got to tag all the animals, so there's an extra
labor unit there, a lot of a lot of the
work is well that the cost is more the extra
animals on the place. So a lot of these that
they were all commercial would have been you know, three
quarters of them would be gone already, you know, by
the end of January, whereas it is, the cost has
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been actually feeding them, so you know that yesterday was
a full day weighing everything. Drafting up and over the
scales makes it pretty easy because it's all with E
I D and bluetooth drafting. So you run them over
the scales, that weighs them, separates them by sire or
birth rank, single, twin, triplet, and then we do that
culling accordingly. So yeah, a bit of extra work, but
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you know, big numbers you can you can do reasonably easily.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
How much rain did you get over the weekend? Howie?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Look I'm not actually sure, Indy, A good good four
thirty six miles one day and I'm not actually didn't
check the next day. So nice rain, and boy, those
crops are looking good.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So how would you compare your crops, say, to this
time last year, would they be ahead?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, crops are definitely ahead of last year. Just really
you know, leaf filling out incredibly well this last week,
got some your ear on them, Yeah, got some your
ear on them? When was it a week ten days
ago before the rain came? So that was the right
time to do that. And yet no, looking really good, Andy.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So generally just everything's pretty positive at the moment. I
mean we talk about well what's still going up? It
just continues the theme we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, not really positive time. Actually, look, I'm really enjoying
being a sheep and beef farmer at the moment. And
you know, we're living in the moment because who knows
if it's going to be a year thing, if this
is going to be one lift, but it's certainly certainly
enjoying it at the moment. And there's going to be
a surplice at the end to fix a few things
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up on the farm and pay it the debt back,
So that's the important to keep the band happy and
show you're on a good profile there.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do you think, though, the volatility the Donald Trump's showing
towards particular nations that could work in New Zealand's favor? Perhaps?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Word you spoke of volatility, Andy, and when you've got volatility,
you just don't know what's going to happen. So, you know,
myke fear would still be that that crash that I
think might come in the US stock market sometime this
year March to October, and that would be the most
dangerous thing. And it hasn't happened despite all of Trump's policies.
So at the moment, we've we've got away, you know,
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a bit easily. The tariffs haven't really had a doesn't
seem to have had a great effect on our lamb
prices and our beef prices. And I know, certainly for
lamb and beef, we're probably shorting most of the markets
were selling into, which is certainly helping that that price pressure.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So what makes you think there's going to be a
stock market crash in the States next month or in
the next couple of months.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Happened nine out of the last ten election cycles. And
he so if you look at the US elections, where
they have their mid term election is traditionally in that
cycle the one out of the four years where you
have a major fall on the stock market. So nine
out of the past in the last forty years that's happened.
Nine of the ten mid term cycles has always been
fairly dramatic fall in the US stop market, which affects
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the rest of the world. So really just just looking
on that past analysis, facing that view that might happen
or that fear what might happen?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I find it interesting you talk about the tariffs and
we haven't seen a lot of effect here in New
zeal And. We spoke to Greg Erickson yesterday who's based
in Canada, and more or less Canadians are just like
taking it with a grain of salt. Whatever Donald Trump's saying.
Do you think, though, we're going to see some effects
at some stage? Is that a possibility and quite a
quite something that could just pop up out of nowhere?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I think you'll think it's more of the American public
will answer that question. Andy, So, whatever happens in the
mid terms, if the Democrats take the House, and even
possibly the Senate. Then it'll be very, very difficult for
Trump to push forward with some of his policy and
certain the extreme things he's been doing. You don't get
that change. I think you'll see a fairly unrestrained president
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for the next for the next two and a half years.
And that's problem, you know, I guess more of a concern.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
The American midterms are going to be intriguing this year.
You seem to know a little bit about it. How
we what are you predicting what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I hate volatility again, Andy, So if you look at
the stats coming out of the States now, you know
you've got a fairly big majority of with this dissatisfaction
on a lot of what Trump has been doing around Venezuela, Greenland,
but more more specifically just around the affordability you know,
living in the States, and it won't be any different
to our coming up elects, and you know, the big
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thing is actually going to be our economy. So so yeah,
you know, but a few similarities in both countries at
the moment where affordability is the issue.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Volatility is the word of the day for you today, Howie. Now,
volatility of the all Blacks coaches. We haven't spoken to
you since Ray's that don't come tomorrow. What are you
protecting for the AB's coach or who would you want
to go in there personally?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Once again predictions? What are you going to do? Get
it wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Hey, you can only try though, right we've had luck
to discuss and Jamie Joseph I would have loved to
have seen him in there already, so he would be
my man for the pack and I'm sure he's going
to be able to There's some other capable names that
he'll get into support, so so that would be my hope,
certainly going to be fascinating how this plays out how Hey,
we always appreciate your time. You carry on in the
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yards this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, good the chat Andy, and look forward to the
next catchup.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Don Morrison farming at Willowbank. You're listening to the muster.
Before the end of the hour, we have Josh Bennett
from by Taney Young Farmer's Element Cleary as Sheerwore, New Zealand.
Matt Ward farming at more than Mainz. But he's up next. Actually,
Grant Butcher's in there as well. Jud what's sight when
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welcome back? To the Muster matt Wood Farms at Morton, Mainz.
He was a beef and Lamb Young Farmer Development Scholarship
winning back in twenty twenty four. He enjoyed a staycation
back in December and tells us all about it this afternoon. Matt,
welcome to the muster this year. Good to catch up.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, get andy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You're going pretty good mate. Look you're just talking off
heir about and you talked about it pre crystals about
your staycation. You plan it all out. You're going to
have the ashes on your boxing day through the New
Year's Eve was sorted, but it didn't play out that way.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, No, If the England cricket team could hold their
own away bit better, I would have had quite an
enjoyable week part that watching the cricket. But yeah, it
was a bit disappointing, but it's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It is what it is. It was.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Actually it was still quite nice to have the week
at home partner and daughter of they are away visiting family,
so it's just in the south here doing a few
odd jobs around the farm and hanging out and but
ye would have been quite nice to watch a week's
worth of cricket but sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Bit cossier script Australian cricketers or the cricket borders such
millions of dollars in lost revenue. But anyway, digressing Look
there on the farm though, when it's a situation like
that where you're just potting around and just managed to
unwind as such.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, it was Actually I think it was as good
as any holiday I've probably had to be. Fear Like
I was saying, you go away on holiday and you
spend the first first two or three days still thinking
about what's happening on farm, and then enjoy it for
a couple of days and then you end up coming home,
and especially between Christmas and New Year, like if you
get a bit of fly around or lose a ballcock
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of a trough and lose a tank of water like, So,
I don't really see the point of going away just
to add that stress on someone else having to be here.
So it was quite nice to be and make sure
everything was all right, tied it up a few week
jobs and years go. Phone didn't ring, which is quite pleasing.
No one emailed me to harass me either, So it
was that was quite an enjoyable week.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Actually, So how are things looking there over at more
to Mainze.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
We're looking exceptionally good, to be fair, and we had
had nearly seventy meals of rain over the last three days.
It was just steady, good rain to and we're looking
for it. Lambs are doing, everything's doing well. I sort
of don't I don't want to sky to about it
because you don't need to look too far up the
road to see people bettling in the North Island with
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the weather. But for us, it was it was perfect.
It set us up for another two or three weeks.
As long as that pesky cold wind stays away, we're
pretty well set up for a while now, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Even with the cold of temperatures, you you still got
good clover coming through.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, it's been crazy, crazy clover coming through. Even in
all my old pastures. There's been a lot more clover
around this year than there has been before. I'm not
sure why, but yeah, yeah, they just seems to be
clover everywhere, and everything's loving it like stock and doing really.
Kettle were rounding up nicely and been killing a few
lambs and everything's been going pretty good.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Have you ever had issues and your farming experience with
the clover root weavil. I've talked about this a weave
and over the past monthals well, last past couple of
weeks anyway, because gee, Willim was about ten years or
so and the WASP came out which was a game change,
and everybody had no clover through the crucial time of
the year for growing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, no, I not in my memory, probably wasn't really
on my radar as a shepherd either. We were just
paid to shift sheep and make sure everything was getting feed,
so it wasn't really really an issue for me personally.
But now but this year, Jez where well it's quite interesting. Actually,
I've put fifteen hect years of red clover, straight red
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clover and to try finish lambs on and it's probably
been the two poorest performing pediccs I've got, whereas the
clover and grasswards have been. Yeah, it's been exceptional.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So you're getting the weight it's on the lambs then.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, I have been Yeah. Yeah, I killed killed two
hundred and fifty last Monday at twenty point two kilos,
which was happy enough about and just wearhing a few
lambs up today to get them lined up for drenching
it while start drink testing at the end of the
week and staff they need to drink or not. So
I'll probably have another cutout another few hundred to go,
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maybe two or three weeks time. But yeah, I'm just
waiting for this red clover to kick in the gear
a bit and then start finishing the morning on that
a bit and you try to kick the weights keeck
the weights right up.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, well that's the irony. Other season you're a clover,
paddocks is the least best performing one.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, and that's the whole I haven't put any in
before because I sawt to. I believe I can finish
lambs good enough here on grass. I normally average a
twenty kilo lamb through the season anyway, so why I
put an expensive plant like red clover in. But I
want to try and slow down the risk of drink
resistance and change my thinking of finishing, try to finish
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more lambs on mom than just finishing a wing lamb
as well. But yeah, far out, it's been a battle
to get a get a stabular, hopefully get a graze
off it in about ten days or so, and then
we'll be we'll be a waiver. Yeah, Lambs on grass.
I've been stubbing, pumping along pretty nicely.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So it's fair to say your budget this year, you've
blown it out of the water.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, it's definitely quite pleasing to be fair a lot
better than two years ago.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Quite so.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was singing this morning like, this will be my
fourth fourth summer being back at home in those first
two summers, far out of spending money, will he nearly
trying to get everything up and going, then getting bet
at like broad a whole new ram team, and improving
all my part of being single, cropping everything, so improving
my pastures and just trying to get myself into a
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position where I am now. And I thought last year
was going to be the good year, but then I
had a few drink issues midway through about February, I
run into a few drench issues, so then got that
tidied up. And then this year where everything's stuck in
a row. So we're actually singing along pretty nicely for
a change.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So drinch resistance, what's the status there on your place?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Last year I was weighing lambs about mid February and
they just weren't they weren't doing They didn't really do
that well off.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Months on months.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then they carried on and didn't really do overly
well and you must have been about February. Weighed them
and they hadn't put too much weight on, so there
must be a wee bit of an issue here. And
I drenched them, tested them ten days later, and turns
out I probably would have been better off just given
them a drench of water than drink, because I just
wasn't really working as effectively as what it should have been.
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So jumped into triples and giving them a triple And
now we're one hundred percent clean again. And I've been
trying to just change up my rotations with my lambs
and incorporating my use into their rotation a bit more
to clean up and always following my lambs with kettle
to tidy up paddocks as well, and just trying to chat.
I didn't didn't give my user long acting this year
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for the first time either, just to try and change
my practices more than anything, get out of a few
bad habits, and just try to slow the whole process
down a bit more so.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
As far as sharing lambs, what do you do or do.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You Yeah, yeah, I'm a share everything as soon as
I sort of can sure I weighed off all those
two hundred and fifty odds that I killed, they got
weighed off a couple of weeks ago, and then everything
under forty five ki get shorn. I just sort of
try and get it done as soon as after weaning,
because then less time on the hand piece staying in
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them up before sharing. And I've always sort of found
like all those when I was up in one aker,
all the stall lambs we were selling, like they would
go on the truck and get off, get unloaded at
those big traders, and that would be Sewan straight away.
If they if they're sharing everything, then why why wouldn't
I share everything? And you get a good week a
heat like we did last week and changing and see
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them rounding up in the in the peddic. I don't
think they enjoyed the rain too much over the weekend,
but they are. Yeah. Now I'm a big fan of
a day.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Just finally, you're involved in footy club you kept in
their pre season? Is it underway tomorrow night, Indy tomorrow night, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It kicks off tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I got the text the other day and I was like,
oh God, it'd be quite exciting to get back into it.
But I've been asked to, yeah, because I'm not going
to play anymore. So been asked to manage the boat well,
help manage the fellas this year, which will be she'll
be interesting. I don't see myself as much of a manager,
but I still want to. After blow teen twelve seasons
of senior footy, I sort of feel like I should
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be given back, giving back to it. So go and
go and help out sort of where I can.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So what you're saying is the boots will be in
the bag just in case. Oh I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, I probably to be to be fear. I think
the boots would have hunt been in the bag if
if Dean Revage and those wind and boys wanted to
play us for their jubilee. Seeing they're a bit shy,
I would have done anything to go down there and
blow their birthday cake Kendles out. It would have been good.
But now the boats are well and truly.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Is it will be nice. It will be nice to
go back down quite I'm quite looking forward to waking
up on a Sunday morning not sore and we are
so that it'll be good.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Hey, good on you, Matt. Always appreciate your time. Enjoy
the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, no, thank you, Andy, it was nice to talk
to you again.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Matt Ward of Morton Mains and eden Dale Rugby club
manager for the seniors. This is the muster up. Next,
we're going to catch up with Graham Butcher Funk Consultants.
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Graham Butcher Funk Consultant joins us once again here on
the muster Graham, how are you cold at the moment? Yeah, look,
let's look at the last couple of weeks on farm.
The mood just seems to rise. As far as positivity
towards the rural sector.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, it is the whole mood of she can be
farming and probably dairy farming as well. Is pretty positive.
Schedules are holding, if not increasing, Really good signed to
see because in the middle of the season now and
the anticipation was that things were going to ease off
a weaver it, but they don't appear to be.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Have you seen schedules go up at the end of
January before?
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Can't recall I don't think no, I'll probably have to
say I haven't.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's certainly a great situation to be and now that
certainly is we're talking about dairy support today. Now, back
of the late nineties early two thousands is when the
transitioning to dairy farming from sheep farms occurred down here
in the South in a big way. Farm conversions, I
suppose as a terminology, and what it was worth at
the time to what it's worth now you said, changes
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with inflation. But there's some pretty good figures.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
In there, Yes there is. I mean, the fact that
she can be farming is increasing profitability quite a bit,
must eventually have an effect on the value of dairy support.
So I was just thinking about that issue a couple
of days ago. So I went back to twenty twenty
four and looked at the analysis for cents for kilogram
dry matter. Sheep farming back in twenty twenty four, this
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one hundred and thirty five percent with no hogt lambing
was about eleven cents of kilogram dry matter the same period,
dairy support was about seventeen point nine. That was heifers
and winter cows was about twenty four point nine cents.
Now that's just looking at the gross margin direct and
comes less direct costs. Differences in capital tied up in
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the different enterprises. A whole lot of issues come into that,
but there was a significant advantage doing dairy support two
years ago, and that advantage for dairy heifers was just
under seven cents, and the advantage for winter cows was
about twelve cents per kilogram dry matter, so pretty significant advantage. Now,
six and twelve cents may not sound high, but you're
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talking about enormous numbers of kilograms of dry matter, so
it was pretty significant. So we fast forward to twenty
twenty five find out one hundred and thirty five per
zero percent in hogots is twenty two point three cents,
nearly doubled what it was a couple of years ago.
Hugely significant. If we look at dairy support currently, it's
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sitting at twenty one point nine cents for heifers, that's
ten fifty and fifteen fifty in winter cows about just
under twenty four. So it's fair to say that the
dairy support, including winter cows and heifers, are running about
neck and neck with sheep. So it raises the question,
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's a great question, Makay tell us, what is going
to happen?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Well, what is going to happen if we go back
to that advantage I was talking about a couple of
years ago to seven and twelve cents, just thinking about
why that should be there. I mean, it could be
that that's what sheep farmers perceived to be the advantage
they needed to actually jump into dairy support, or it
could have been the dairy farmers saying that's what it's
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worse to me. So a whole lot of reasons that
that advantage was there, and it was there for some
sort of reason, the combination of reasons. Probably if we
add that advantage to our twenty two point three cents
we're currently getting for one hundred and thirty five percent
zero Hoggett Lambing, the relative profitability for heifers needs to
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increase the twenty nine point two cents of kilogram dry
matter and thirty four point eight cents per kilogram dry
matter for cows, so that maintains the relativity now on
our higher sheet and B values as it was back
in twenty four If you get what I mean. Now,
if we have to generate that sort of money from heifers,
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the figures come out at twelve dollars seventy for calves
and nineteen dollars seventy for may to may and the
cow one to maintain that same relativity, it's fifty bucks
a week. Now. I'm not saying that that's what it's worth.
I'm just saying if we wanted to maintain the relativity currently,
those are the prices we should be looking at now
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that it's an interesting sort of problem to think about.
I mean, dairy farmers, will they be willing to pay
that for good dairy support stuff or will they look
at other options, buying runoff blocks all that sort of stuff.
So it's just an interesting sort of commentary on the
current state of affairs between dairy support and chief farming.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Do you see many people looking at dairy support as
an option or considering the way things are looking at.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
That moment currently, It would surprise me if sheep and
beef farmers were seriously looking at dairy support. Why why
would you shift as you're doing equally well with shaken beef.
The incentive to change from an economic sense, it's not
huge at the moment. There could be an advantage in
monthly income that's what you get out of dairy support,
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could be advantage in parasite management for sheep. You got
cattle on board, so.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It would be a big one.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
That always helps. But you need a fair amount of
cattle to get a significant advantage there. But there are
advantages there. What I'm saying is you years ago there
was a significant premium for running sheep and beef for
running dairy support. Sorry, currently if we want to maintain
that advantage, we're talking numbers relatively high now. Really we
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need to see where sheep and beef goes over the
next twelve eighteen months. If that vantage is going to
be maintained or for current prices are going to be maintained,
there's going to be some shifting in the dairy support values.
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's going to be fascinating to see what happens there. Hey,
just finally, as well, you bought an interesting, well intriguing Ashley.
The food pyramid has been changed all around.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Well, this is the US Department of Agriculture have announced
a new real food food pyramid. And this is it's
pretty much a tsunami that's going to sweep through the
food industry. They've turned it on its head. The whole
process here has prioritized protein at every meal consume full
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fat dairy with no added sugars. And if you look
at the food pyramid, there's a lovely big steak sitting
right at the top and all process grains are down
the bottom. It's pretty much turned upside down. Now this
is going to have I think, pretty significant impacts on
New Zealand's farming industry. It's something that we haven't heard
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a lot about from the media. It's quite amazing. It's
probably at the instigation of Robert Kennedy and he said
this is the most significant reset of federal nutrition policy
in history, and I totally agree with him. It's just
turned things upside down. So all the full fat milks,
dairy products, cheese, red meats are right at the top,
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with vegetables of course, and all the process grains noodles,
white rice right down the bottom, including whole grain. Even
whole grain bread is pretty much near the bottom. So
quite amazing, and we need to hear more about.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
This, No pun intended, but food for thought. Food for
Thought a very good good under Graham always good to
catch up.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Graham Butcher Farm Consultant their food pyramid, and I'll try
and get the link up on the Facebook page as
well the Muster on Hakanui to explain what Graham's talking about.
Fascinating to see it though, if the US is right
regarding this. Up next Ellen McCleary out of Sheewear, New Zealand,
and before the end of the hour, Josh Bennett of
my Tana Young Farmers, This is the Muster, Welcome back,
(28:40):
This is the Muster, Fine young cannonballs as the muse today.
The song is called good thing you can talk about.
Our next guest being a good bloke. His name is
Alan McCleary of Shearware, New Zealand, and joins us on
a regular basis. Ellen, good afternoon and welcome to the
new year on the muster.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You too, An, That's that's really nice. I'll take that
as a controment, buddy. There's not many people say that
about me, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But I had three or four things written down on
the list. It was probably the only one I could
say anyway. Sheer Were, New Zealand. How was your holiday Freshly,
Oh you know it was all right, well yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
You know it was just just a holiday one that
it wasn't done. We didn't do anything startling. So the
weather wasn't exactly you know, speedo weather was it.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'll take your word for that. So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
We had a good break. It was good, It was good.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
The weather has just been a little bit on the
nippy side down unfortunately. Although you contrast that over with Melbourne.
You guys are based over in Australia as well. I
think you're getting to like forty seven degrees today?
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Oh really are they?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Hell on it had all those fires and every other
port biggers have had a rough time, haven't they.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh they had for sure. But I suppose one thing,
if you live over there, you can say you've had
a summer.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I don't think we're going to get when it's really
sort of feeling rather aughto me out there, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
February is going to be the month just fingers crossed
for February with no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Well, I hope so the lambs could do with a
bit of sunshine on their back, and that typical farmer.
I've taken the farm back and all of a sudden,
I'm winging about, you know, the weather. But it has
been other than that, it has been good. But I
thought we were going to be dry by now, but
everybody's everywhere in the country. I've been pretty happy at
the moment, really well.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Phil Duncan made the observation on Friday's show that after
this weekend been there wasn't going to be a dry
spot in New Zealand. If there was, it was possibly Southland.
But I don't know what are you hearing. Everybody seemed
to get consistent rainfall.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I think most of it is here. There's still I'm
not sure about what's happened around Blenham because they were
pretty bad up there before Christmas. I don't know what's
happened since then. But I was at Akaroa last week
for the week and the first three days were beautiful
and then the heavens opened up and they canceled the
little river show. It got washed out. Really yeah, yeah, no,
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it was. I think one guy there said they had
sixty mill and it must have been about twenty four
hours or whatever. But but all the farmers are grinning
for me to We're like, it's looking great there.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
So as far as sheer, we're in New Zealand, what's
been happening.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Well, it was really busy just prior to Christmas. And
then you know, we all go the farmers all go
quiet for a while, and it's just really starts steaming
ahead now with they're coming back and we're and they're
looking at tagging. So we're still well up on our numbers.
We're doing really well. Yeah, nothing nothing, there's nothing new
(31:37):
on the horizon. We're just just still doing the same
with the tags and the taggers. So here's not much
chappening on that front. And hip race just flat out.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So you're going up driveways cold cold calling on cockies
and they're happy to have a conversation regarding tags.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Well, most of the ones that answer the door, the
ones that hide down and behind the kitchen counter until
I go away. I'm not sure about those ones.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But have you ever struck that when you go to
somebody's house you can see them?
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Oh sometimes other suspect that they're you know, the drugs
boiling and the radio's on the doors wide opening.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
There's no no one there.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
But look, look, no, I'm in my little bubble. Everybody
welcomes me with open arms. Mate.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Southern Field days is happening at where is it?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, no, it's down down past Gauley or some Endie.
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, it's it's in the family belonging to way kikimukew
and Wyumu. What is called boy Moomoo Southern Field Days
at way Moomoo.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Well that's the one I'm going to the way Moumou one,
not that, not that other one that way wom One.
I'm not going to that one this year.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And you'll know as good as anybody yell on the
chance to connect. There's as paramount for a lot of
people and just yeah, you'll be the old bells on.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I well, and look, last time I was there, we
would just run off our feet. It was really flattering
the amount of customers and that that came and just
for a yarn and put their order and it was yeah,
I was, I was, Yeah, I was very humbled by
it all, to be fair, Andy, it was great and
to support down there is fantastic. So we're and we're
sponsoring all help sponsoring the speech here again on the
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Friday afternoon. And that was that was a great event
last year. That was really well attended. So yeah, I'm
hopefully you'll be up on the truck catching lambs again
and making a foll of myself, so it was Yeah,
it'd be fun all round, won't it.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So how fast can you share a lamb? These guys
appealing one out in about fifteen seconds? The guns? What
can you do one?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Oh I've never done, never try.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh you must have had to go once upon a time. Surely.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
No, I've only even done one speech share but I
had a crook back and it was over in England,
so that was nothing, nothing startling. But but yeah, no,
I've never No, I've never really had to go at
a speech here at all. Don't intend to either, don't
want to make a follo of myself.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You know, well you still do pretty good, nick mate,
don't just you know, give yourself a better credit.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Ah, if only you were young and blonde? Hey did that?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Interview?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Is not going very well And.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I can see me getting the hiding from the wife
tonight because it's not long.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But so speak sharing though the circuit. It's a messive deal.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
It is. No, No, it isn't. Because it's the world's
this year. There's year. There's a lot of a lot
of guys coming out that's sort of been semi retired,
so you know, it's it's really the shows are going
really well.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Of course you talked about Ray before. I'm the printer,
so anybody gets in touch with you, it's pretty much
a couple of day turnaround and a lot of most
instances in regards to getting your tags, it is.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
But as I keep reminding you, like give us a
week just in case the pair goes off or Ray
turns up drunk or something, you know, just just give
us a gap, you know. But definitely if you haven't
got it within a week, I'd be ringing because they're
normally there within days.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So Ray hasn't turned up drunk yet, so why would
he start.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, he's working with me.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
He can only he can only stay us over for
so long and he coome on.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Oh that's good, hey ellen. If somebody wants to get
in touch though, you're thinking tagging options for Sheeping Kettle
Cheerwoun New Zealand, how do they get in touch with
Alla McCleary.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, they can if they want to get in touch
with me, they can ring me on two seven two
three two double four, double eight and you can go
online to the Shearwell site, or you can ring the
eight hundred seven and triple nine eight nine and that'll
go straight through to Ray who does the printing. So yeah,
we're easy to get ahold of. There's always someone on
the end of the line.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Alan McCleary of Sheerwour, New Zealand, always appreciate your time
on the must I'll see it the Southern Field Days
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Oh, fantastic, forward to.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It, mate, Alan McCleary if Sheerwour, New Zealand. Always good
to catch up with Ellen as you will, like I say,
Southern Field Days at Wade moving in a couple of
weeks time before we wrap up. Josh Bennett had a
Waitana Young Farmers. Josh Bennett of Waetana Young Farmers joins
(36:14):
us to at the muster this afternoon. He is also
the convenor for the regional final attake of South and
Young Farmer of the Year, which is happening at the
Gore Showgrounds in about oh ten or eleven days time.
I suppose a little bit longer. Josh, welcome once again
and any here. You are not too bad the countdown
to the regional finals happening here in Gore. You're the
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convener for the event. How's it been?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, no, it's been it's been really good.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
No, we're shaping up to be busy, but really good event.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
As far as organizing something like this, how many hours
goes into it?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Oh yeah, there's quite a few hours For me personally,
it's just on the on the old Sea, I find
they're making calls and organizing things. It's which just sort
of up my alley. But yeah, no, there's a few
hours that goes in and we've got a really we've
got a big committee this year and they're really dedicated.
So yeah, yeah, quite a few.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
So how many members on the committee as such.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We've actually got fourteen on the committee. But that's just
mainly for so we can have lots of hands helping
us drive posting the day before and take posts out
the day after.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Because I remember for the National Young Finals last year
the amount of posts needed take it out of winter
and geez there was a hell of a number.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah yeah, no, I think we've being like one hundred
and forty posting and winton and we had about to
see people come and help us after. So yeah, many
hands make what work for that.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
No pressure putting them in straight either.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
No pressure all. Hopefully my levels right way.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
The exciting thing is you're telling me you're working in
with the AMP Show as well this year.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah. No, we're really excited to be working in with
the AMP Show guys and their buddy excorded to have
us at their event and and it just aids another
spectacle for people to come and see more more faces
through the gate and they're great to work with those guys. Yeah,
it's been really great.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Now for people who are going to come and watch
the practical happening on the Saturday, what can they expect?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
So throughout the day, these guys they kick off about
eight o'clock until teen thirty is the first head to head,
so they'll be just away at their modules and stuff
and on the farmland. And then the first head to
head comes on at teen thirty till eleven, and then
they go back to modules and stuff and then the
(38:43):
Egory Race Off Eger Sports Race Off is at the
half Pass one one o'clock up US one. That's a
big spectacle there that they run up the field and
do lots of activities.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
So they'll be doing that on the main arena. The
horses will be gone by then.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
We are on the horse arena we're sort of out
the back behind the we're on the practice Albion Girls
practice field out the back, and there's also the teen
Eggs and Agricids are in with us as well, So yeah,
there's heaps to sea.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Now, tickets for the night session are they available?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yes, yes, they're still available. That's at the Town and
Country Club from four point thirty. They're still available. I
think tickets closed the Monday before the seventh, so I
think that's like the first or the second of February. Yeah,
dig into them. It should be a great night afterwards
(39:42):
as well.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
To Raider, is he going to be m seeing once again?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yes, Radar is going to be there with his comical
genius if that's how you can put that.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh, he's an absolute living treasure to Arraider. Now, as
far as White, Tiny, White, Tiny, white tiny Club, how's
things been?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Yeah, No, we've been really great. We finished off the
year pretty strong. I was a tailing fundraiser at the
Old Man's there at Bennett's we got I think we
had sixteen people there for the day and we cracked
two and a half thousand. So yeah, no, what Tony
Club's gone really great and everyone's digging in to get
us a hand with the regional as well.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
So you're encouraging on Belfa Terur for your fundraising now, yeah,
just the.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Way that we won't leave We won't leave them, know though.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Okay, well Moon you've changed just putting it out there.
But obviously you guys are in pretty good heart though,
and I think it goes about saying everything sounds pretty positive, right.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Yep, No, we've got we've got
a few new members coming through the ranks and and
once this regional's out of the road, we'll we'll get
into some social events and yeah, kick off the year
with a with a big bang.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well the regional there's a social event. The arguments there, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Argument there, one hundred percent is once once a practical
day is done on Saturday, we'll be letting the head
down and really, Shana a good time.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I think fantastic. Now, Waitana, Young Farmers Wins your meeting
dates and that Josh. People want to find out a
bit more so.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
We're the second Monday of every month about seven thirty.
We're usually in the Gormeter area, but the best way
to find us is on the Facebook page. Whetany young
farmers and just put the same a message. If you
want to come Andy, We're happy to have you.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Hey, good on you. Josh appreciated the chat and looking
forward to the final the regional finals to take us
South and Young Farmer of the Year happening on the Saturday,
in conjunction with the AMP show. Always good to catch up.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Brilliant cheers Andy, laugh out.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Loud with ag proud because life on the land can
be a laughing matter. Brought to us by sheer Well
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were being sentenced. Well, that's it, over and dumbers for
(42:04):
the afternoon. Paul Bennett, you've changed coincidentally pull bell for me,
but nonetheless that's us for the afternoon. The podcast will
be up surely. I'm Andy Muhey, you've been listening to
the muster on Hakanui Chester Peter's Genetics. Enjoy the afternoon,
see Tom Hey, well i'll right too.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
He go there and what are you going again?
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Stock selling action occurred this morning. Get the Louisville sale
yards and thanks the PGG. Right so we have Sam
Riley on the ground to tell us about ground conditions
down there, given the lack of sum of it, as
well to tell us about these outstanding prices that we're seeing.
Giday Sam good here you Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
The ground conditions or I do see some biologs getting
counted off, some peandis. But it will be a.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Wee bit softer than what it was at this time
last week to be paid.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
That's that's all about optimism.
Speaker 7 (42:48):
It is it is.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
I just wanted to say that big yellow thing come
back at the square will be quite nice.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I don't know what this big yellow thing as you're
talking about. Hopefully we might see it sooner than later.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
Yeah, thirteen degrees in the middle of January.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
It's not really what you call summer, is it not really?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Mate? How are these prices? Are they nice and hot?
Speaker 7 (43:03):
No, there's nothing wrong with the prices today. Everything's pretty
similar to the last week, which is good to see.
The k stal kettle probably took a wee bit of
a lift, so, which was good. We'll do the Prime
Street for a start, mate.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
The lambs, the good heavy lambs two hundred, two hundred
and sixty four mediums one eighty five to one ninety five,
and the lottery and prime lambs one seventy to one eighty,
a handful of twoson today one seventy eight on.
Speaker 7 (43:26):
The beast of those they will he use.
Speaker 8 (43:29):
They're not backing off at all. Two hundred and two
sixty five on the top for those, one sixty to
one ninety on the mediums, and one thirty to one
fifty on not end stuff and a handful of rams,
and today they were eighty two one hundred and seen dollars.
That is the Stare lambs. There were just a small
yarning of Stare lambs, and today the provice is pretty
similar to last week. One sixty five to one eighty
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on the top, one forty to one fifty five on
the mediums, and one twenty to one twenty five on
the lottery en lamps, with the retail land lambs that
are eighty two hundred dollars and the prime kettle just
a small yarding of prime kettle, but evening selling regently well.
There stars at five hundred and fifty plows four dollars
eighty Heath was at five ten six twenty kgs four
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seventy two to four seventy seven cows at five fifty
kilos three dollars sixty cows at five hundred kilos three
dollars thirty balls good heavy beef balls five ninety kg's
five dollars fourteen and five hundred to five hundred and
sixty kilow balls. They were four seventy to four eighty
so selling very well there and it was fall kettle.
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It was the yearly yarding mainly made up of cows
coming through some quartz yere fifteen month Hereford cross balls
at three eighty eight kgs eighteen hundred dollars. Fifteen month
Angus he was at three hundred kg sixteen twenty Into
the cows. We moved one hundred and seventy four kilos
Charrolet balls at nine hundred and eighty here if it
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cross balls, it's hundred and sixty seven kilos nine hundred dollars.
The medium herepe across balls at one hundred and thirty
one hundred and fifty kilos eight hundred and eight fifty
the fried in balls for believe it of a lift
from last week one hundred and twenty to one hundred
and sixty kilo freed in balls they were six fifty
to seven forty and the medium balls a one hundred,
one hundred and twenty kilos. They were six hundred and
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six fifty and some hereupe across heffers one hundred and
thirty five kgs seven hundred and thirty dollars, so everything
actually selling very well on the store kettle, which is
good to see. That wraps up all the weight.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
There, I believe.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Then pretty soon he began with the
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My
name is Andy Muer. We're here until two o'clock this afternoon,
and the show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics.
As I look out over main Street, it's overcast. It's
probably a little bit cooler than Victoria and Australia. I
think Melbourne today is looking at forty seven degrees or
forty five degrees something ridiculous like that. So rest assured
(00:34):
Gore isn't getting that hot today, although a little bit
of sudden will be good. We'll talk with it shortly.
Tunes for today, though the fine young cannonballs. If I see.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and subtext,
the proof is in the progeny tear from dot co
dot insad.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
This afternoon cloudy, wul like south westerly is and sixteen
Wednesday cloudy with breezy west northwesterlyes fifteen to twenty two
Thursday reign developing of braezy westerly seven and eighteen. Friday
sunny with breezy easterly six and eighteen, and Saturday sunny
with northwesterlyies forming six and twenty one saw temperatures to
(01:20):
Hanclinton fifteen point seven, Harriet twelve point four, Robyn south
And fourteen point four, Riverton fifteen point seven to now
sixteen point one, Winton fourteen at Woodlands fourteen point six.
Don Morrison of Willowbanks starts us off This afternoon. Matt
Ward is on the program farming at Morton Mainz and
(01:44):
he tells me that rugby season is starting very surely
for his club Eden Dull and a couple of things
in the pipeline for the season that yeah, I'd like
to mention I suppose more than anything and the rest
to see what he means. There. Alan McCleary's Shrewoure, New
Zealand's on the show as his Graham Butcher farm consultant,
talking about dairy grazing and as well the food pyramid.
(02:07):
It's been looked at and if you believe certain people
have been told that it's all wrong. And Josh Bennett
from My Tiny Young Farmers has a chat, as does
Sam Riley from PGG writes and with an update from
the Lauville sale Yards. Then we'll start the hour with
Howie This is the muster until two o'clock thanks to
Peter's genetics. Don Morrison farms at Willow Bank and joins
(02:44):
us this afternoon on the muster, Good afternoon, Howie fine
young Cannonballs, Johnny come home. That song there, it sounds
like it takes you back to the eighties.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Takes you back to the eighties. Andy and I think
they can remember skiing in Austria, which sounds pretty pretty exotic.
And that was a head at about that time, so
that was definitely mid eighties. So yeah, great memories.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
What was it like skiing in Austria in the mid eighties,
It would have been pretty surreal.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Andy is a bit lucky. We were working in London
and you'd save all your money and went in did
three months solid skiing and it was pretty awesome. In
the kits kits Ball ski field. You will have heard
of anyone that's end of the skiing. Well know of
the Hunter come down the Hell Race which is at
Kit's Ball. So pretty magic time and you know, a
bit spoiled because when you come back to New Zealand
(03:33):
and ski, you're never going to ski, skip out and
ski that great stuff like you get in the Alps.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Look, we moved to the present. It's a couple of
days ago we'd talk about Fineian Cannibal's coming out with
their tunes howe. But look, you're killing you lambs today,
ram lambs culling lamb. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, So we've got a reasonable sight between the different
breeds we've got here, got three or four different breeds,
and so there's probably about there might be about fifteen
hundred stud ram lambs that we haven't taken any out of.
So we're giving them. They've been weighed at weaning go
to another way yesterday, and now we're going to do
a culling, and so we'll give us some more lambs
(04:09):
to kill, so a bit earlier than we normally cull.
But when they're.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Heavy they might as well be gone.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, they're doing pretty well then if you're culling them
a little bit earlier than normal.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Ah, it's normally not so much that ending. It's normally
by the time you do all your measurements. So we
give a weaning weight and then normally a thirty day
or a fifty day after that, and then another another
thirty or fifty days after that, just to get that
growth profile for all the breeding venues. So this will
be the second weight and where we're able to do
a culling. Do a culling now just to just to
(04:40):
soaken grass, get some animals off the place.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So how intensive is it running a stud farm?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So it's busy. It's the work at Lamonton because you've
got to tag all the animals, so there's an extra
labor unit there, a lot of a lot of the
work is well that the cost is more the extra
animals on the place. So a lot of these that
they were all commercial would have been you know, three
quarters of them would be gone already, you know, by
the end of January, whereas it is, the cost has
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been actually feeding them, so you know that yesterday was
a full day weighing everything. Drafting up and over the
scales makes it pretty easy because it's all with E
I D and bluetooth drafting. So you run them over
the scales, that weighs them, separates them by sire or
birth rank, single, twin, triplet, and then we do that
culling accordingly. So yeah, a bit of extra work, but
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you know, big numbers you can you can do reasonably easily.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
How much rain did you get over the weekend? Howie?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Look I'm not actually sure, Indy, A good good four
thirty six miles one day and I'm not actually didn't
check the next day. So nice rain, and boy, those
crops are looking good.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So how would you compare your crops, say, to this
time last year, would they be ahead?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, crops are definitely ahead of last year. Just really
you know, leaf filling out incredibly well this last week,
got some your ear on them, Yeah, got some your
ear on them? When was it a week ten days
ago before the rain came? So that was the right
time to do that. And yet no, looking really good, Andy.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So generally just everything's pretty positive at the moment. I
mean we talk about well what's still going up? It
just continues the theme we're seeing.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, not really positive time. Actually, look, I'm really enjoying
being a sheep and beef farmer at the moment. And
you know, we're living in the moment because who knows
if it's going to be a year thing, if this
is going to be one lift, but it's certainly certainly
enjoying it at the moment. And there's going to be
a surplice at the end to fix a few things
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up on the farm and pay it the debt back,
So that's the important to keep the band happy and
show you're on a good profile there.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Do you think, though, the volatility the Donald Trump's showing
towards particular nations that could work in New Zealand's favor? Perhaps?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think the.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Word you spoke of volatility, Andy, and when you've got volatility,
you just don't know what's going to happen. So, you know,
myke fear would still be that that crash that I
think might come in the US stock market sometime this
year March to October, and that would be the most
dangerous thing. And it hasn't happened despite all of Trump's policies.
So at the moment, we've we've got away, you know,
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a bit easily. The tariffs haven't really had a doesn't
seem to have had a great effect on our lamb
prices and our beef prices. And I know, certainly for
lamb and beef, we're probably shorting most of the markets
were selling into, which is certainly helping that that price pressure.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So what makes you think there's going to be a
stock market crash in the States next month or in
the next couple of months.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Happened nine out of the last ten election cycles. And
he so if you look at the US elections, where
they have their mid term election is traditionally in that
cycle the one out of the four years where you
have a major fall on the stock market. So nine
out of the past in the last forty years that's happened.
Nine of the ten mid term cycles has always been
fairly dramatic fall in the US stop market, which affects
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the rest of the world. So really just just looking
on that past analysis, facing that view that might happen
or that fear what might happen?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I find it interesting you talk about the tariffs and
we haven't seen a lot of effect here in New
zeal And. We spoke to Greg Erickson yesterday who's based
in Canada, and more or less Canadians are just like
taking it with a grain of salt. Whatever Donald Trump's saying.
Do you think, though, we're going to see some effects
at some stage? Is that a possibility and quite a
quite something that could just pop up out of nowhere?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I think you'll think it's more of the American public
will answer that question. Andy, So, whatever happens in the
mid terms, if the Democrats take the House, and even
possibly the Senate. Then it'll be very, very difficult for
Trump to push forward with some of his policy and
certain the extreme things he's been doing. You don't get
that change. I think you'll see a fairly unrestrained president
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for the next for the next two and a half years.
And that's problem, you know, I guess more of a concern.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
The American midterms are going to be intriguing this year.
You seem to know a little bit about it. How
we what are you predicting what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I hate volatility again, Andy, So if you look at
the stats coming out of the States now, you know
you've got a fairly big majority of with this dissatisfaction
on a lot of what Trump has been doing around Venezuela, Greenland,
but more more specifically just around the affordability you know,
living in the States, and it won't be any different
to our coming up elects, and you know, the big
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thing is actually going to be our economy. So so yeah,
you know, but a few similarities in both countries at
the moment where affordability is the issue.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Volatility is the word of the day for you today, Howie. Now,
volatility of the all Blacks coaches. We haven't spoken to
you since Ray's that don't come tomorrow. What are you
protecting for the AB's coach or who would you want
to go in there personally?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Once again predictions? What are you going to do? Get
it wrong?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Hey, you can only try though, right we've had luck
to discuss and Jamie Joseph I would have loved to
have seen him in there already, so he would be
my man for the pack and I'm sure he's going
to be able to There's some other capable names that
he'll get into support, so so that would be my hope,
certainly going to be fascinating how this plays out how Hey,
we always appreciate your time. You carry on in the
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yards this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, good the chat Andy, and look forward to the
next catchup.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Don Morrison farming at Willowbank. You're listening to the muster.
Before the end of the hour, we have Josh Bennett
from by Taney Young Farmer's Element Cleary as Sheerwore, New Zealand.
Matt Ward farming at more than Mainz. But he's up next. Actually,
Grant Butcher's in there as well. Jud what's sight when
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welcome back? To the Muster matt Wood Farms at Morton, Mainz.
He was a beef and Lamb Young Farmer Development Scholarship
winning back in twenty twenty four. He enjoyed a staycation
back in December and tells us all about it this afternoon. Matt,
welcome to the muster this year. Good to catch up.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, get andy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You're going pretty good mate. Look you're just talking off
heir about and you talked about it pre crystals about
your staycation. You plan it all out. You're going to
have the ashes on your boxing day through the New
Year's Eve was sorted, but it didn't play out that way.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, No, If the England cricket team could hold their
own away bit better, I would have had quite an
enjoyable week part that watching the cricket. But yeah, it
was a bit disappointing, but it's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It is what it is. It was.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Actually it was still quite nice to have the week
at home partner and daughter of they are away visiting family,
so it's just in the south here doing a few
odd jobs around the farm and hanging out and but
ye would have been quite nice to watch a week's
worth of cricket but sorry.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Bit cossier script Australian cricketers or the cricket borders such
millions of dollars in lost revenue. But anyway, digressing Look
there on the farm though, when it's a situation like
that where you're just potting around and just managed to
unwind as such.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, it was Actually I think it was as good
as any holiday I've probably had to be. Fear Like
I was saying, you go away on holiday and you
spend the first first two or three days still thinking
about what's happening on farm, and then enjoy it for
a couple of days and then you end up coming home,
and especially between Christmas and New Year, like if you
get a bit of fly around or lose a ballcock
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of a trough and lose a tank of water like, So,
I don't really see the point of going away just
to add that stress on someone else having to be here.
So it was quite nice to be and make sure
everything was all right, tied it up a few week
jobs and years go. Phone didn't ring, which is quite pleasing.
No one emailed me to harass me either, So it
was that was quite an enjoyable week.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Actually, So how are things looking there over at more
to Mainze.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
We're looking exceptionally good, to be fair, and we had
had nearly seventy meals of rain over the last three days.
It was just steady, good rain to and we're looking
for it. Lambs are doing, everything's doing well. I sort
of don't I don't want to sky to about it
because you don't need to look too far up the
road to see people bettling in the North Island with
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the weather. But for us, it was it was perfect.
It set us up for another two or three weeks.
As long as that pesky cold wind stays away, we're
pretty well set up for a while now, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Even with the cold of temperatures, you you still got
good clover coming through.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, it's been crazy, crazy clover coming through. Even in
all my old pastures. There's been a lot more clover
around this year than there has been before. I'm not
sure why, but yeah, yeah, they just seems to be
clover everywhere, and everything's loving it like stock and doing really.
Kettle were rounding up nicely and been killing a few
lambs and everything's been going pretty good.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Have you ever had issues and your farming experience with
the clover root weavil. I've talked about this a weave
and over the past monthals well, last past couple of
weeks anyway, because gee, Willim was about ten years or
so and the WASP came out which was a game change,
and everybody had no clover through the crucial time of
the year for growing.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, no, I not in my memory, probably wasn't really
on my radar as a shepherd either. We were just
paid to shift sheep and make sure everything was getting feed,
so it wasn't really really an issue for me personally.
But now but this year, Jez where well it's quite interesting. Actually,
I've put fifteen hect years of red clover, straight red
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clover and to try finish lambs on and it's probably
been the two poorest performing pediccs I've got, whereas the
clover and grasswards have been. Yeah, it's been exceptional.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So you're getting the weight it's on the lambs then.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, I have been Yeah. Yeah, I killed killed two
hundred and fifty last Monday at twenty point two kilos,
which was happy enough about and just wearhing a few
lambs up today to get them lined up for drenching
it while start drink testing at the end of the
week and staff they need to drink or not. So
I'll probably have another cutout another few hundred to go,
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maybe two or three weeks time. But yeah, I'm just
waiting for this red clover to kick in the gear
a bit and then start finishing the morning on that
a bit and you try to kick the weights keeck
the weights right up.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, well that's the irony. Other season you're a clover,
paddocks is the least best performing one.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, and that's the whole I haven't put any in
before because I sawt to. I believe I can finish
lambs good enough here on grass. I normally average a
twenty kilo lamb through the season anyway, so why I
put an expensive plant like red clover in. But I
want to try and slow down the risk of drink
resistance and change my thinking of finishing, try to finish
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more lambs on mom than just finishing a wing lamb
as well. But yeah, far out, it's been a battle
to get a get a stabular, hopefully get a graze
off it in about ten days or so, and then
we'll be we'll be a waiver. Yeah, Lambs on grass.
I've been stubbing, pumping along pretty nicely.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So it's fair to say your budget this year, you've
blown it out of the water.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, it's definitely quite pleasing to be fair a lot
better than two years ago.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Quite so.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was singing this morning like, this will be my
fourth fourth summer being back at home in those first
two summers, far out of spending money, will he nearly
trying to get everything up and going, then getting bet
at like broad a whole new ram team, and improving
all my part of being single, cropping everything, so improving
my pastures and just trying to get myself into a
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position where I am now. And I thought last year
was going to be the good year, but then I
had a few drink issues midway through about February, I
run into a few drench issues, so then got that
tidied up. And then this year where everything's stuck in
a row. So we're actually singing along pretty nicely for
a change.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
So drinch resistance, what's the status there on your place?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Last year I was weighing lambs about mid February and
they just weren't they weren't doing They didn't really do
that well off.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Months on months.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And then they carried on and didn't really do overly
well and you must have been about February. Weighed them
and they hadn't put too much weight on, so there
must be a wee bit of an issue here. And
I drenched them, tested them ten days later, and turns
out I probably would have been better off just given
them a drench of water than drink, because I just
wasn't really working as effectively as what it should have been.
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So jumped into triples and giving them a triple And
now we're one hundred percent clean again. And I've been
trying to just change up my rotations with my lambs
and incorporating my use into their rotation a bit more
to clean up and always following my lambs with kettle
to tidy up paddocks as well, and just trying to chat.
I didn't didn't give my user long acting this year
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for the first time either, just to try and change
my practices more than anything, get out of a few
bad habits, and just try to slow the whole process
down a bit more so.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
As far as sharing lambs, what do you do or do.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You Yeah, yeah, I'm a share everything as soon as
I sort of can sure I weighed off all those
two hundred and fifty odds that I killed, they got
weighed off a couple of weeks ago, and then everything
under forty five ki get shorn. I just sort of
try and get it done as soon as after weaning,
because then less time on the hand piece staying in
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them up before sharing. And I've always sort of found
like all those when I was up in one aker,
all the stall lambs we were selling, like they would
go on the truck and get off, get unloaded at
those big traders, and that would be Sewan straight away.
If they if they're sharing everything, then why why wouldn't
I share everything? And you get a good week a
heat like we did last week and changing and see
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them rounding up in the in the peddic. I don't
think they enjoyed the rain too much over the weekend,
but they are. Yeah. Now I'm a big fan of
a day.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Just finally, you're involved in footy club you kept in
their pre season? Is it underway tomorrow night, Indy tomorrow night, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It kicks off tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I got the text the other day and I was like,
oh God, it'd be quite exciting to get back into it.
But I've been asked to, yeah, because I'm not going
to play anymore. So been asked to manage the boat well,
help manage the fellas this year, which will be she'll
be interesting. I don't see myself as much of a manager,
but I still want to. After blow teen twelve seasons
of senior footy, I sort of feel like I should
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be given back, giving back to it. So go and
go and help out sort of where I can.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So what you're saying is the boots will be in
the bag just in case. Oh I don't know you.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, I probably to be to be fear. I think
the boots would have hunt been in the bag if
if Dean Revage and those wind and boys wanted to
play us for their jubilee. Seeing they're a bit shy,
I would have done anything to go down there and
blow their birthday cake Kendles out. It would have been good.
But now the boats are well and truly.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Is it will be nice. It will be nice to
go back down quite I'm quite looking forward to waking
up on a Sunday morning not sore and we are
so that it'll be good.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Hey, good on you, Matt. Always appreciate your time. Enjoy
the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, no, thank you, Andy, it was nice to talk
to you again.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Matt Ward of Morton Mains and eden Dale Rugby club
manager for the seniors. This is the muster up. Next,
we're going to catch up with Graham Butcher Funk Consultants.
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Graham Butcher Funk Consultant joins us once again here on
the muster Graham, how are you cold at the moment? Yeah, look,
let's look at the last couple of weeks on farm.
The mood just seems to rise. As far as positivity
towards the rural sector.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, it is the whole mood of she can be
farming and probably dairy farming as well. Is pretty positive.
Schedules are holding, if not increasing, Really good signed to
see because in the middle of the season now and
the anticipation was that things were going to ease off
a weaver it, but they don't appear to be.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Have you seen schedules go up at the end of
January before?
Speaker 6 (21:16):
Can't recall I don't think no, I'll probably have to
say I haven't.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's certainly a great situation to be and now that
certainly is we're talking about dairy support today. Now, back
of the late nineties early two thousands is when the
transitioning to dairy farming from sheep farms occurred down here
in the South in a big way. Farm conversions, I
suppose as a terminology, and what it was worth at
the time to what it's worth now you said, changes
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with inflation. But there's some pretty good figures.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
In there, Yes there is. I mean, the fact that
she can be farming is increasing profitability quite a bit,
must eventually have an effect on the value of dairy support.
So I was just thinking about that issue a couple
of days ago. So I went back to twenty twenty
four and looked at the analysis for cents for kilogram
dry matter. Sheep farming back in twenty twenty four, this
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one hundred and thirty five percent with no hogt lambing
was about eleven cents of kilogram dry matter the same period,
dairy support was about seventeen point nine. That was heifers
and winter cows was about twenty four point nine cents.
Now that's just looking at the gross margin direct and
comes less direct costs. Differences in capital tied up in
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the different enterprises. A whole lot of issues come into that,
but there was a significant advantage doing dairy support two
years ago, and that advantage for dairy heifers was just
under seven cents, and the advantage for winter cows was
about twelve cents per kilogram dry matter, so pretty significant advantage. Now,
six and twelve cents may not sound high, but you're
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talking about enormous numbers of kilograms of dry matter, so
it was pretty significant. So we fast forward to twenty
twenty five find out one hundred and thirty five per
zero percent in hogots is twenty two point three cents,
nearly doubled what it was a couple of years ago.
Hugely significant. If we look at dairy support currently, it's
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sitting at twenty one point nine cents for heifers, that's
ten fifty and fifteen fifty in winter cows about just
under twenty four. So it's fair to say that the
dairy support, including winter cows and heifers, are running about
neck and neck with sheep. So it raises the question,
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's a great question, Makay tell us, what is going
to happen?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Well, what is going to happen if we go back
to that advantage I was talking about a couple of
years ago to seven and twelve cents, just thinking about
why that should be there. I mean, it could be
that that's what sheep farmers perceived to be the advantage
they needed to actually jump into dairy support, or it
could have been the dairy farmers saying that's what it's
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worse to me. So a whole lot of reasons that
that advantage was there, and it was there for some
sort of reason, the combination of reasons. Probably if we
add that advantage to our twenty two point three cents
we're currently getting for one hundred and thirty five percent
zero Hoggett Lambing, the relative profitability for heifers needs to
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increase the twenty nine point two cents of kilogram dry
matter and thirty four point eight cents per kilogram dry
matter for cows, so that maintains the relativity now on
our higher sheet and B values as it was back
in twenty four If you get what I mean. Now,
if we have to generate that sort of money from heifers,
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the figures come out at twelve dollars seventy for calves
and nineteen dollars seventy for may to may and the
cow one to maintain that same relativity, it's fifty bucks
a week. Now. I'm not saying that that's what it's worth.
I'm just saying if we wanted to maintain the relativity currently,
those are the prices we should be looking at now
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that it's an interesting sort of problem to think about.
I mean, dairy farmers, will they be willing to pay
that for good dairy support stuff or will they look
at other options, buying runoff blocks all that sort of stuff.
So it's just an interesting sort of commentary on the
current state of affairs between dairy support and chief farming.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Do you see many people looking at dairy support as
an option or considering the way things are looking at.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
That moment currently, It would surprise me if sheep and
beef farmers were seriously looking at dairy support. Why why
would you shift as you're doing equally well with shaken beef.
The incentive to change from an economic sense, it's not
huge at the moment. There could be an advantage in
monthly income that's what you get out of dairy support,
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could be advantage in parasite management for sheep. You got
cattle on board, so.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
It would be a big one.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
That always helps. But you need a fair amount of
cattle to get a significant advantage there. But there are
advantages there. What I'm saying is you years ago there
was a significant premium for running sheep and beef for
running dairy support. Sorry, currently if we want to maintain
that advantage, we're talking numbers relatively high now. Really we
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need to see where sheep and beef goes over the
next twelve eighteen months. If that vantage is going to
be maintained or for current prices are going to be maintained,
there's going to be some shifting in the dairy support values.
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's going to be fascinating to see what happens there. Hey,
just finally, as well, you bought an interesting, well intriguing Ashley.
The food pyramid has been changed all around.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Well, this is the US Department of Agriculture have announced
a new real food food pyramid. And this is it's
pretty much a tsunami that's going to sweep through the
food industry. They've turned it on its head. The whole
process here has prioritized protein at every meal consume full
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fat dairy with no added sugars. And if you look
at the food pyramid, there's a lovely big steak sitting
right at the top and all process grains are down
the bottom. It's pretty much turned upside down. Now this
is going to have I think, pretty significant impacts on
New Zealand's farming industry. It's something that we haven't heard
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a lot about from the media. It's quite amazing. It's
probably at the instigation of Robert Kennedy and he said
this is the most significant reset of federal nutrition policy
in history, and I totally agree with him. It's just
turned things upside down. So all the full fat milks,
dairy products, cheese, red meats are right at the top,
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with vegetables of course, and all the process grains noodles,
white rice right down the bottom, including whole grain. Even
whole grain bread is pretty much near the bottom. So
quite amazing, and we need to hear more about.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
This, No pun intended, but food for thought. Food for
Thought a very good good under Graham always good to
catch up.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Graham Butcher Farm Consultant their food pyramid, and I'll try
and get the link up on the Facebook page as
well the Muster on Hakanui to explain what Graham's talking about.
Fascinating to see it though, if the US is right
regarding this. Up next Ellen McCleary out of Sheewear, New Zealand,
and before the end of the hour, Josh Bennett of
my Tana Young Farmers, This is the Muster, Welcome back,
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This is the Muster, Fine young cannonballs as the muse today.
The song is called good thing you can talk about.
Our next guest being a good bloke. His name is
Alan McCleary of Shearware, New Zealand, and joins us on
a regular basis. Ellen, good afternoon and welcome to the
new year on the muster.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
You too, An, That's that's really nice. I'll take that
as a controment, buddy. There's not many people say that
about me, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But I had three or four things written down on
the list. It was probably the only one I could
say anyway. Sheer Were, New Zealand. How was your holiday Freshly,
Oh you know it was all right, well yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
You know it was just just a holiday one that
it wasn't done. We didn't do anything startling. So the
weather wasn't exactly you know, speedo weather was it.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I'll take your word for that. So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
We had a good break. It was good, It was good.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
The weather has just been a little bit on the
nippy side down unfortunately. Although you contrast that over with Melbourne.
You guys are based over in Australia as well. I
think you're getting to like forty seven degrees today?
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Oh really are they?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Hell on it had all those fires and every other
port biggers have had a rough time, haven't they.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh they had for sure. But I suppose one thing,
if you live over there, you can say you've had
a summer.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I don't think we're going to get when it's really
sort of feeling rather aughto me out there, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
February is going to be the month just fingers crossed
for February with no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
Well, I hope so the lambs could do with a
bit of sunshine on their back, and that typical farmer.
I've taken the farm back and all of a sudden,
I'm winging about, you know, the weather. But it has
been other than that, it has been good. But I
thought we were going to be dry by now, but
everybody's everywhere in the country. I've been pretty happy at
the moment, really well.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Phil Duncan made the observation on Friday's show that after
this weekend been there wasn't going to be a dry
spot in New Zealand. If there was, it was possibly Southland.
But I don't know what are you hearing. Everybody seemed
to get consistent rainfall.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I think most of it is here. There's still I'm
not sure about what's happened around Blenham because they were
pretty bad up there before Christmas. I don't know what's
happened since then. But I was at Akaroa last week
for the week and the first three days were beautiful
and then the heavens opened up and they canceled the
little river show. It got washed out. Really yeah, yeah, no,
(31:01):
it was. I think one guy there said they had
sixty mill and it must have been about twenty four
hours or whatever. But but all the farmers are grinning
for me to We're like, it's looking great there.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
So as far as sheer, we're in New Zealand, what's
been happening.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Well, it was really busy just prior to Christmas. And
then you know, we all go the farmers all go
quiet for a while, and it's just really starts steaming
ahead now with they're coming back and we're and they're
looking at tagging. So we're still well up on our numbers.
We're doing really well. Yeah, nothing nothing, there's nothing new
(31:37):
on the horizon. We're just just still doing the same
with the tags and the taggers. So here's not much
chappening on that front. And hip race just flat out.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So you're going up driveways cold cold calling on cockies
and they're happy to have a conversation regarding tags.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Well, most of the ones that answer the door, the
ones that hide down and behind the kitchen counter until
I go away. I'm not sure about those ones.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But have you ever struck that when you go to
somebody's house you can see them?
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Oh sometimes other suspect that they're you know, the drugs
boiling and the radio's on the doors wide opening.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
There's no no one there.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
But look, look, no, I'm in my little bubble. Everybody
welcomes me with open arms. Mate.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Southern Field days is happening at where is it?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, no, it's down down past Gauley or some Endie.
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, it's it's in the family belonging to way kikimukew
and Wyumu. What is called boy Moomoo Southern Field Days
at way Moomoo.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Well that's the one I'm going to the way Moumou one,
not that, not that other one that way wom One.
I'm not going to that one this year.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And you'll know as good as anybody yell on the
chance to connect. There's as paramount for a lot of
people and just yeah, you'll be the old bells on.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I well, and look, last time I was there, we
would just run off our feet. It was really flattering
the amount of customers and that that came and just
for a yarn and put their order and it was yeah,
I was, I was, Yeah, I was very humbled by
it all, to be fair, Andy, it was great and
to support down there is fantastic. So we're and we're
sponsoring all help sponsoring the speech here again on the
(33:13):
Friday afternoon. And that was that was a great event
last year. That was really well attended. So yeah, I'm
hopefully you'll be up on the truck catching lambs again
and making a foll of myself, so it was Yeah,
it'd be fun all round, won't it.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
So how fast can you share a lamb? These guys
appealing one out in about fifteen seconds? The guns? What
can you do one?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Oh I've never done, never try.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh you must have had to go once upon a time. Surely.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
No, I've only even done one speech share but I
had a crook back and it was over in England,
so that was nothing, nothing startling. But but yeah, no,
I've never No, I've never really had to go at
a speech here at all. Don't intend to either, don't
want to make a follo of myself.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You know, well you still do pretty good, nick mate,
don't just you know, give yourself a better credit.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Ah, if only you were young and blonde? Hey did that?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Interview?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Is not going very well And.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I can see me getting the hiding from the wife
tonight because it's not long.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But so speak sharing though the circuit. It's a messive deal.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
It is. No, No, it isn't. Because it's the world's
this year. There's year. There's a lot of a lot
of guys coming out that's sort of been semi retired,
so you know, it's it's really the shows are going
really well.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Of course you talked about Ray before. I'm the printer,
so anybody gets in touch with you, it's pretty much
a couple of day turnaround and a lot of most
instances in regards to getting your tags, it is.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
But as I keep reminding you, like give us a
week just in case the pair goes off or Ray
turns up drunk or something, you know, just just give
us a gap, you know. But definitely if you haven't
got it within a week, I'd be ringing because they're
normally there within days.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So Ray hasn't turned up drunk yet, so why would
he start.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Well, he's working with me.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
He can only he can only stay us over for
so long and he coome on.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Oh that's good, hey ellen. If somebody wants to get
in touch though, you're thinking tagging options for Sheeping Kettle
Cheerwoun New Zealand, how do they get in touch with
Alla McCleary.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, they can if they want to get in touch
with me, they can ring me on two seven two
three two double four, double eight and you can go
online to the Shearwell site, or you can ring the
eight hundred seven and triple nine eight nine and that'll
go straight through to Ray who does the printing. So yeah,
we're easy to get ahold of. There's always someone on
the end of the line.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Alan McCleary of Sheerwour, New Zealand, always appreciate your time
on the must I'll see it the Southern Field Days
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Oh, fantastic, forward to.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It, mate, Alan McCleary if Sheerwour, New Zealand. Always good
to catch up with Ellen as you will, like I say,
Southern Field Days at Wade moving in a couple of
weeks time before we wrap up. Josh Bennett had a
Waitana Young Farmers. Josh Bennett of Waetana Young Farmers joins
(36:14):
us to at the muster this afternoon. He is also
the convenor for the regional final attake of South and
Young Farmer of the Year, which is happening at the
Gore Showgrounds in about oh ten or eleven days time.
I suppose a little bit longer. Josh, welcome once again
and any here. You are not too bad the countdown
to the regional finals happening here in Gore. You're the
(36:38):
convener for the event. How's it been?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, no, it's been it's been really good.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
No, we're shaping up to be busy, but really good event.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
As far as organizing something like this, how many hours
goes into it?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Oh yeah, there's quite a few hours For me personally,
it's just on the on the old Sea, I find
they're making calls and organizing things. It's which just sort
of up my alley. But yeah, no, there's a few
hours that goes in and we've got a really we've
got a big committee this year and they're really dedicated.
So yeah, yeah, quite a few.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
So how many members on the committee as such.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We've actually got fourteen on the committee. But that's just
mainly for so we can have lots of hands helping
us drive posting the day before and take posts out
the day after.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Because I remember for the National Young Finals last year
the amount of posts needed take it out of winter
and geez there was a hell of a number.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah yeah, no, I think we've being like one hundred
and forty posting and winton and we had about to
see people come and help us after. So yeah, many
hands make what work for that.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
No pressure putting them in straight either.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
No pressure all. Hopefully my levels right way.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
The exciting thing is you're telling me you're working in
with the AMP Show as well this year.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah. No, we're really excited to be working in with
the AMP Show guys and their buddy excorded to have
us at their event and and it just aids another
spectacle for people to come and see more more faces
through the gate and they're great to work with those guys. Yeah,
it's been really great.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Now for people who are going to come and watch
the practical happening on the Saturday, what can they expect?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
So throughout the day, these guys they kick off about
eight o'clock until teen thirty is the first head to head,
so they'll be just away at their modules and stuff
and on the farmland. And then the first head to
head comes on at teen thirty till eleven, and then
they go back to modules and stuff and then the
(38:43):
Egory Race Off Eger Sports Race Off is at the
half Pass one one o'clock up US one. That's a
big spectacle there that they run up the field and
do lots of activities.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
So they'll be doing that on the main arena. The
horses will be gone by then.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
We are on the horse arena we're sort of out
the back behind the we're on the practice Albion Girls
practice field out the back, and there's also the teen
Eggs and Agricids are in with us as well, So yeah,
there's heaps to sea.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Now, tickets for the night session are they available?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yes, yes, they're still available. That's at the Town and
Country Club from four point thirty. They're still available. I
think tickets closed the Monday before the seventh, so I
think that's like the first or the second of February. Yeah,
dig into them. It should be a great night afterwards
(39:42):
as well.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
To Raider, is he going to be m seeing once again?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yes, Radar is going to be there with his comical
genius if that's how you can put that.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh, he's an absolute living treasure to Arraider. Now, as
far as White, Tiny, White, Tiny, white tiny Club, how's
things been?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Yeah, No, we've been really great. We finished off the
year pretty strong. I was a tailing fundraiser at the
Old Man's there at Bennett's we got I think we
had sixteen people there for the day and we cracked
two and a half thousand. So yeah, no, what Tony
Club's gone really great and everyone's digging in to get
us a hand with the regional as well.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
So you're encouraging on Belfa Terur for your fundraising now, yeah,
just the.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Way that we won't leave We won't leave them, know though.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Okay, well Moon you've changed just putting it out there.
But obviously you guys are in pretty good heart though,
and I think it goes about saying everything sounds pretty positive, right.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Yep, No, we've got we've got
a few new members coming through the ranks and and
once this regional's out of the road, we'll we'll get
into some social events and yeah, kick off the year
with a with a big bang.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well the regional there's a social event. The arguments there, Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Argument there, one hundred percent is once once a practical
day is done on Saturday, we'll be letting the head
down and really, Shana a good time.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I think fantastic. Now, Waitana, Young Farmers Wins your meeting
dates and that Josh. People want to find out a
bit more so.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
We're the second Monday of every month about seven thirty.
We're usually in the Gormeter area, but the best way
to find us is on the Facebook page. Whetany young
farmers and just put the same a message. If you
want to come Andy, We're happy to have you.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Hey, good on you. Josh appreciated the chat and looking
forward to the final the regional finals to take us
South and Young Farmer of the Year happening on the Saturday,
in conjunction with the AMP show. Always good to catch up.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
Brilliant cheers Andy, laugh out.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Loud with ag proud because life on the land can
be a laughing matter. Brought to us by sheer Well
data working to help the livestock farmer. A comma, a
period and an exclamation mark were called into court they
were being sentenced. Well, that's it, over and dumbers for
(42:04):
the afternoon. Paul Bennett, you've changed coincidentally pull bell for me,
but nonetheless that's us for the afternoon. The podcast will
be up surely. I'm Andy Muhey, you've been listening to
the muster on Hakanui Chester Peter's Genetics. Enjoy the afternoon,
see Tom Hey, well i'll right too.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
He go there and what are you going again?
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Stock selling action occurred this morning. Get the Louisville sale
yards and thanks the PGG. Right so we have Sam
Riley on the ground to tell us about ground conditions
down there, given the lack of sum of it, as
well to tell us about these outstanding prices that we're seeing.
Giday Sam good here you Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
The ground conditions or I do see some biologs getting
counted off, some peandis. But it will be a.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Wee bit softer than what it was at this time
last week to be paid.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
That's that's all about optimism.
Speaker 7 (42:48):
It is it is.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
I just wanted to say that big yellow thing come
back at the square will be quite nice.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I don't know what this big yellow thing as you're
talking about. Hopefully we might see it sooner than later.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
Yeah, thirteen degrees in the middle of January.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
It's not really what you call summer, is it not really?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Mate? How are these prices? Are they nice and hot?
Speaker 7 (43:03):
No, there's nothing wrong with the prices today. Everything's pretty
similar to the last week, which is good to see.
The k stal kettle probably took a wee bit of
a lift, so, which was good. We'll do the Prime
Street for a start, mate.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
The lambs, the good heavy lambs two hundred, two hundred
and sixty four mediums one eighty five to one ninety five,
and the lottery and prime lambs one seventy to one eighty,
a handful of twoson today one seventy eight on.
Speaker 7 (43:26):
The beast of those they will he use.
Speaker 8 (43:29):
They're not backing off at all. Two hundred and two
sixty five on the top for those, one sixty to
one ninety on the mediums, and one thirty to one
fifty on not end stuff and a handful of rams,
and today they were eighty two one hundred and seen dollars.
That is the Stare lambs. There were just a small
yarning of Stare lambs, and today the provice is pretty
similar to last week. One sixty five to one eighty
(43:49):
on the top, one forty to one fifty five on
the mediums, and one twenty to one twenty five on
the lottery en lamps, with the retail land lambs that
are eighty two hundred dollars and the prime kettle just
a small yarding of prime kettle, but evening selling regently well.
There stars at five hundred and fifty plows four dollars
eighty Heath was at five ten six twenty kgs four
(44:14):
seventy two to four seventy seven cows at five fifty
kilos three dollars sixty cows at five hundred kilos three
dollars thirty balls good heavy beef balls five ninety kg's
five dollars fourteen and five hundred to five hundred and
sixty kilow balls. They were four seventy to four eighty
so selling very well there and it was fall kettle.
(44:36):
It was the yearly yarding mainly made up of cows
coming through some quartz yere fifteen month Hereford cross balls
at three eighty eight kgs eighteen hundred dollars. Fifteen month
Angus he was at three hundred kg sixteen twenty Into
the cows. We moved one hundred and seventy four kilos
Charrolet balls at nine hundred and eighty here if it
(44:58):
cross balls, it's hundred and sixty seven kilos nine hundred dollars.
The medium herepe across balls at one hundred and thirty
one hundred and fifty kilos eight hundred and eight fifty
the fried in balls for believe it of a lift
from last week one hundred and twenty to one hundred
and sixty kilo freed in balls they were six fifty
to seven forty and the medium balls a one hundred,
one hundred and twenty kilos. They were six hundred and
(45:20):
six fifty and some hereupe across heffers one hundred and
thirty five kgs seven hundred and thirty dollars, so everything
actually selling very well on the store kettle, which is
good to see. That wraps up all the weight.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
There, I believe.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Then pretty soon he began with the
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