March 1, 2026 • 8 mins
Joseph Mooney looks at the situation in the Middle East and what it means for Kiwi exports.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Master. Joseph Mooney is MP for
Southland and joins us once again. Good afternoon, Joseph. A
busy weekend, I'd say.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh, good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, and it's been a yeah.
I think it's busy for every run at this stage,
isn't it. But I think I'll say that like clock,
thirteen days in a row that have been on the
move in various different ways. So yeah, it's been a
bit the old time.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It was interesting the other day as well, Rob Scott's
Southland District mayor calling for a full inquiry into the
response by Emergency Management Southland. Joseph, he's claiming that the
organization turned down a Hercules fight flight full of generators?
Was there a lot of this, I mean, you use
that horrible word learnings, But is that something that needs
to be taken forward from the October events.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Look, I've talked to Rob and others both during the
response and afterwards, and look, I think everyone's doing the
best they can with the information they've gotten sort of
you know and fast moving dynamic, but I think there's
definitely room for improvement and things we could learn out
of that that we could do better, you know, and
(01:13):
if we have a similar type situation going forwards, because.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We look back at those events in October and what
we entire, it's all bums rush at the time of
bums rush to get everything up and activated, and you
always look back in retrospect and wonder what you could
have done differently. But then again on a bigger scale
as well, we need all these organizations along with the
MP's on the same wavelength.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, I know, we certainly do. And that's something I
thing we could learn how to do it better going forwards,
because there certainly seem to be having these weather related
events more frequently, and you know, we never had one
quite like that with the so much of the electricity
network being knocked down and with that communication network. But
I think the information flow between memes of Parliament, between
(01:59):
the urgency management, between other elected leaders and other community groups,
you know, particularly ones in this case, you know, involved
in the primary sector, we could we could have a
sort of a mechanism right at the beginning to get
really good information flows happening, you know, quickly, and you
know that that helps certainly, you know, from from where
(02:20):
I sit my community obviously directly with the ministers, and
it's helpful to have that information flow from that perspective
as well.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Now it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've talked to this with Penny many a time about
preserving the three Gen network. Have you had any traction
at all of your colleagues about we really need to
relook at the situation regarding the three Gen network.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Certainly had a discussion about it. Where that leans. I
can't say because I know there's long standing plans in place,
but you know, I certainly have a discussion about it.
I think there's probably an increasing shift to satellite based systems,
you know, like a lot of people using things like
starlink for example these days on one of you know,
(03:01):
living living out really so you know, but that's not
an immediate solution for everyone. I think I think it
can be, but it obviously takes time for Peter shift
and get used to new technologies.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, personally, I think we need to preserve that three
G because October told is one thing down here. But
that's another story that hopefully we may see a bit
of change in thinking from the Tower case.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Story that came out as well interesting regating key we
save it, and this is common sense as well. Finally,
for farmers, diplomats of all people, and soldiers for example,
are going to be able to buy their first times.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, and real cops, real teachers, doctors, you know who
live really and living in accommodation supplied by the employer.
So you know, people who are working out in remote
locations and you know have accommodation supply of the employer
who have currently been basically barred from being a user.
Keep you sable to have a shot buying your own
home because you know it's not the home name living
(03:57):
immediately themselves, and so you're changing the rules to make
that possible, which I think is a really good move
that helps people get into their first home. And also
it will help you first time farm young folks who
want to buy their first farm that allow them to
invest into their first farm through entity that they majority control.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Now the flip side of this, I suppose Back in
late November, Financial Services Council Chief Executive Current Hope was
quoted as saying weakening the withdrawal sends a contradictory message
that risks trust participation and long term savings behavior, as
well as other industries as well, saying well, the farmers
and the likes are able to do this, and why
can't we We're in a sary who are in the
(04:41):
same situation.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, well, there's there's obviously you know, the can we
say the scheme is primarily a retirement scheme, but you know,
recognizing that it's really important people wale to get an
option to buy the first home and that's been the case,
you know, for years that we've we've had an affection
to that and I think that's been very and very
successful and has helped a lot of people get into
their first home, which is also really critical for people
(05:05):
to build up an asset base for their retirement. So
in my view of the lines, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Another train of thought as well.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Joe was regarding q WE SABER members, arguing they should
be able to tap into the retirement savings to invest
in other assets beyond housing as well, which goes away
from the fundamentals what QI SAB was made for.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But you understand the sentiment, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I could understand the sentiment. I mean, the people can
actually invest in various qvsave providers which have different investment strategies,
so there are options for people and I know for example,
through shares. These people can also take a more active
role in choosing which direct companies they invest in for
some of some proportion of the shares sorry proportion of
(05:49):
the QSAVER funds that they hold. So there are different
your own arranged options available to people if they want
to take those out.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now, the situation in the Middle East regarding Iran, what
river for k as for New Zealand exports.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Don't know at this stage, but something I think you
to watch really closely because roughly twenty percent of the
world's oil flows through the end. I don't think any
of that, you know, the stuff that we rely on.
If that's taken out of the world market, then it
means he's lest available for everyone else, so that you know,
there's a real chance they will drive at the price
of oil. We think about thirty percent of the world's
(06:26):
fertilizer travels through the trade of hormals as well, so
you know that's that's obviously something that's pretty critical for
food supply and potentially food prices. So it's something watching
very closely, and I know everyone around the world and
particularly here in New Zealand, we're watching that really closely.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I heard a figure.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
This morning, Australia was bracing for a forty percent rise
in fuel costs for a lita.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Do you think this is exaggerated.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's really hard to know at this point. Certainly there's
been some I think price rises in the past when
you know fuel supplies being constructed out of that area.
You know, because twenty percent of the world's fuel supplies,
it was pretty sgificant. I don't know that. It's a
wait and see and obviously which we certainly like to
(07:17):
see that conflict ended as soon as possible, But no
one knows at this point.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, ironically enough that your Whites and the FIFA World
Cup are associated with what's going on here because the
runs in the Group a long of Egypt and Belgium
which is being played in the States in a couple
of months time. But the word is if I runs
kicked out, ironically, it's Iraq who is going to take
their place.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But you look at this big global.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Event happening in the States, logistically and security wise, I'd
say it's going to be an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, well, it just shows how interconnected the world is,
doesn't it. And something happens on the other side the
world it cannon does have an impact both here and
in other parts of the world. So it's yeah, we're
we're a big, a big globe, but relatively small in
some ways. So there's a lot of potential things. But
I'll just spy on sport. I should say that in
(08:10):
my thirteen days on the road, so to speak, I
was lucky enough to spend a bit of time and
gore and in one of the things there was going
to the an anniversary event for the sixtieth Southern Shares.
I just thought, give a shout out to that because
that's pretty incredible. Just you know what, some of the
best athletes in the world are sharers, which is something
I think always good to keep in mind and get
(08:31):
the word out there.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Absolutely good on you, Joseph, will let you carry you
on your ways. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Good on your mate chairs.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Joseph Mooney, South Indi MP.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We're a way to catch up next with Big Bad
Ben Dooley, Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer just out of Windom.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Sounds like he's got some baileage cut. Great weather for it.
Welcome back to the Master. Joseph Mooney is MP for
Southland and joins us once again. Good afternoon, Joseph. A
busy weekend, I'd say.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh, good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, and it's been a yeah.
I think it's busy for every run at this stage,
isn't it. But I think I'll say that like clock,
thirteen days in a row that have been on the
move in various different ways. So yeah, it's been a
bit the old time.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It was interesting the other day as well, Rob Scott's
Southland District mayor calling for a full inquiry into the
response by Emergency Management Southland. Joseph, he's claiming that the
organization turned down a Hercules fight flight full of generators?
Was there a lot of this, I mean, you use
that horrible word learnings, But is that something that needs
to be taken forward from the October events.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Look, I've talked to Rob and others both during the
response and afterwards, and look, I think everyone's doing the
best they can with the information they've gotten sort of
you know and fast moving dynamic, but I think there's
definitely room for improvement and things we could learn out
of that that we could do better, you know, and
(01:13):
if we have a similar type situation going forwards, because.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
We look back at those events in October and what
we entire, it's all bums rush at the time of
bums rush to get everything up and activated, and you
always look back in retrospect and wonder what you could
have done differently. But then again on a bigger scale
as well, we need all these organizations along with the
MP's on the same wavelength.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, I know, we certainly do. And that's something I
thing we could learn how to do it better going forwards,
because there certainly seem to be having these weather related
events more frequently, and you know, we never had one
quite like that with the so much of the electricity
network being knocked down and with that communication network. But
I think the information flow between memes of Parliament, between
(01:59):
the urgency management, between other elected leaders and other community groups,
you know, particularly ones in this case, you know, involved
in the primary sector, we could we could have a
sort of a mechanism right at the beginning to get
really good information flows happening, you know, quickly, and you
know that that helps certainly, you know, from from where
(02:20):
I sit my community obviously directly with the ministers, and
it's helpful to have that information flow from that perspective
as well.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Now it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I've talked to this with Penny many a time about
preserving the three Gen network. Have you had any traction
at all of your colleagues about we really need to
relook at the situation regarding the three Gen network.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Certainly had a discussion about it. Where that leans. I
can't say because I know there's long standing plans in place,
but you know, I certainly have a discussion about it.
I think there's probably an increasing shift to satellite based systems,
you know, like a lot of people using things like
starlink for example these days on one of you know,
(03:01):
living living out really so you know, but that's not
an immediate solution for everyone. I think I think it
can be, but it obviously takes time for Peter shift
and get used to new technologies.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, personally, I think we need to preserve that three
G because October told is one thing down here. But
that's another story that hopefully we may see a bit
of change in thinking from the Tower case.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Story that came out as well interesting regating key we
save it, and this is common sense as well. Finally,
for farmers, diplomats of all people, and soldiers for example,
are going to be able to buy their first times.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, and real cops, real teachers, doctors, you know who
live really and living in accommodation supplied by the employer.
So you know, people who are working out in remote
locations and you know have accommodation supply of the employer
who have currently been basically barred from being a user.
Keep you sable to have a shot buying your own
home because you know it's not the home name living
(03:57):
immediately themselves, and so you're changing the rules to make
that possible, which I think is a really good move
that helps people get into their first home. And also
it will help you first time farm young folks who
want to buy their first farm that allow them to
invest into their first farm through entity that they majority control.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Now the flip side of this, I suppose Back in
late November, Financial Services Council Chief Executive Current Hope was
quoted as saying weakening the withdrawal sends a contradictory message
that risks trust participation and long term savings behavior, as
well as other industries as well, saying well, the farmers
and the likes are able to do this, and why
can't we We're in a sary who are in the
(04:41):
same situation.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, well, there's there's obviously you know, the can we
say the scheme is primarily a retirement scheme, but you know,
recognizing that it's really important people wale to get an
option to buy the first home and that's been the case,
you know, for years that we've we've had an affection
to that and I think that's been very and very
successful and has helped a lot of people get into
their first home, which is also really critical for people
(05:05):
to build up an asset base for their retirement. So
in my view of the lines, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Another train of thought as well.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Joe was regarding q WE SABER members, arguing they should
be able to tap into the retirement savings to invest
in other assets beyond housing as well, which goes away
from the fundamentals what QI SAB was made for.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But you understand the sentiment, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I could understand the sentiment. I mean, the people can
actually invest in various qvsave providers which have different investment strategies,
so there are options for people and I know for example,
through shares. These people can also take a more active
role in choosing which direct companies they invest in for
some of some proportion of the shares sorry proportion of
(05:49):
the QSAVER funds that they hold. So there are different
your own arranged options available to people if they want
to take those out.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now, the situation in the Middle East regarding Iran, what
river for k as for New Zealand exports.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Don't know at this stage, but something I think you
to watch really closely because roughly twenty percent of the
world's oil flows through the end. I don't think any
of that, you know, the stuff that we rely on.
If that's taken out of the world market, then it
means he's lest available for everyone else, so that you know,
there's a real chance they will drive at the price
of oil. We think about thirty percent of the world's
(06:26):
fertilizer travels through the trade of hormals as well, so
you know that's that's obviously something that's pretty critical for
food supply and potentially food prices. So it's something watching
very closely, and I know everyone around the world and
particularly here in New Zealand, we're watching that really closely.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I heard a figure.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
This morning, Australia was bracing for a forty percent rise
in fuel costs for a lita.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Do you think this is exaggerated.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
It's really hard to know at this point. Certainly there's
been some I think price rises in the past when
you know fuel supplies being constructed out of that area.
You know, because twenty percent of the world's fuel supplies,
it was pretty sgificant. I don't know that. It's a
wait and see and obviously which we certainly like to
(07:17):
see that conflict ended as soon as possible, But no
one knows at this point.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, ironically enough that your Whites and the FIFA World
Cup are associated with what's going on here because the
runs in the Group a long of Egypt and Belgium
which is being played in the States in a couple
of months time. But the word is if I runs
kicked out, ironically, it's Iraq who is going to take
their place.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But you look at this big global.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Event happening in the States, logistically and security wise, I'd
say it's going to be an absolute nightmare.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, well, it just shows how interconnected the world is,
doesn't it. And something happens on the other side the
world it cannon does have an impact both here and
in other parts of the world. So it's yeah, we're
we're a big, a big globe, but relatively small in
some ways. So there's a lot of potential things. But
I'll just spy on sport. I should say that in
(08:10):
my thirteen days on the road, so to speak, I
was lucky enough to spend a bit of time and
gore and in one of the things there was going
to the an anniversary event for the sixtieth Southern Shares.
I just thought, give a shout out to that because
that's pretty incredible. Just you know what, some of the
best athletes in the world are sharers, which is something
I think always good to keep in mind and get
(08:31):
the word out there.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Absolutely good on you, Joseph, will let you carry you
on your ways. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Good on your mate chairs.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Joseph Mooney, South Indi MP.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
We're a way to catch up next with Big Bad
Ben Dooley, Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer just out of Windom.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Sounds like he's got some baileage cut. Great weather for it.
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