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April 15, 2026 • 45 mins

Andy Muir talks to Dave Biss, Geordie Eade, Sarah Swinbourn, Snr Sgt Gary Iddenton, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sure scare sky start, I'm going again. Good afternoon, and
welcome to the muster On HAKANII Andy, you were here
until two o'clock. The show is brought to you by
Peter's Genetics. On a rather cold afternoon here in Gore.

(00:21):
We had sprawling showers this morning, even possibly sleep following
not that long ago. So here's a tip. If you're
coming into town this afternoon, bring the brolly or chuck
the parker in the back of the ute parker who
says that word the jacket might be a better way
of describing it. But we crank on with the hour
a lot to get through coldplayers. The music.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hakon's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny tear from
Dot co Dot Instead.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
This afternoon shells are breezy westerlies and he liven. Friday
afternoon shell a breezy northerliest five and seventeen, Saturday afternoon
showers alight northwesties four and sixteen, Sunday afternoon showers yet
again with light sou westerly six and thirteen, and on
Monday cloudy with breezy. So how easterlies five and nine.
Yeeha saw temperatures Clinton ten point six, Northern South and

(01:20):
eleven point four, Riverton twelve point seven and Out ten
point eight, tinnerow A ten point nine, Winton ten point
three and Woodlands sitting at eleven point six. Starting off
the show today, we're way over to Western Australia. Dave
Bissett former Leaves Central Otago is a stockagent base just
out of Paris and he's telling us what the farming

(01:40):
landscape is like over in Wa at the moment, as
well as just the Australian moods. So really looking forward
to this chat. Jordi yd farming at the river year
of the South, which is Riverton, red meat schedules Frustration
around and Jordie says, why can't they just be transparency
across the board regarding schedules? Why this secret factor Sarah

(02:02):
Swinburne and Beef and Let New Zealand joins us as
our senior Sergeant Gary Eddington out of the Gore Police
and resident Sporting Gary Nathan Burden as well with Dave
Morrison and PGG Rights and giving a rundown of a
children stock sale that happened this morning that will start
the hour. We're away over to Western Australia to catch
up with Dave bisseittt The Mustard Sport to you by

(02:22):
Peters Genetics.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Big Streets, Bob, the trees are gone. I feel the host.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Lead and super fevorite sun Kids. Dave Bissett is a
stock agent over in Western Australia, formerly from Central Otago.
He made them move over twenty five years ago now
to Australia and joins us this afternoon to give us

(02:52):
a state of play regarding the farming scene over in Wa. Bussy,
Welcome to the muster. I appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, thanks Eddy, love to talk to you. It's a
lovely day here in Western Australia and the sun's out,
so we've got a good day ahead of ourselves at Lisa.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Sun's out somewhere. I mean it was pretty nippy and good.
We'll be lucky to crank ten or eleven degrees today
for goodness sake.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, I think I got up this morning and it
was a seventeen degrees at half us five, and I
think we've got a chili David. We'll we'll get to
twenty eight this afternoon. So that's good.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Oh, you enjoy that hot weather over there. Hey, how
did you end up over in wa coming from Central
Italia like you did?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, I'd been over season and oe I came back
to New Zealand after you know, as you do, you
do the Europe thing and you come back home. And
I was with PGG Rights and as a stock ageing
up in Korea, sort of up that Hacker Valley in
Amarama area through the Dancys Pass, and then a few
years later I decided to make the move over here,

(03:52):
which was really good. It was a bit of a challenge.
I was a bit sick of what I was doing,
so I came over here and I do a stint
in the mines, which was a bit of an eye
atner and a bit of a shop to the system.
Hot hard work underground for about five years, and then
I woke up one morning and I just said to
my wife, I'm done with this. I want to put
the boots back on. So I started up on my own,

(04:15):
and which was a bit of a shop to the system,
because you know, you're particularly against those big players, those
big corporates, and they can belt around a for a bit,
but you know, eight or ten years later it's the
sun's out. We're looking good, so it's not too bad.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
So the move to Australia purely for financial reasons, would
you say, ah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a whole different ball game. Yeah, bigger scope,
bigger opportunities, harder to do business. But yeah, yeah, I
would say that would be right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
But you talk about casual muster, is the money they
can end up with over the especially Kiwis who go
over for six months for a noee lady. Ever, it's
surah compared to what they can learn here.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Well, I'm not sure what they're earning in New Zealand,
but I know up in the Kimberley's where I spent
the last five or six years, those guys up there,
those good young kids especially that are really good and
they're earning that on how you're working for them. It's
a corporate you know you five fifty six a day

(05:20):
or a private coming family business a bit left. Yeah,
there's certainly a quid there for them. And the workstig,
you know that that horse work constant cable in front
of you all day every day, big numbers, you know,
moving them off of a couple of thousand animals at
a time regularly as a challenge and a really good
learning experience. So yeah, all those young guys and girls

(05:42):
face thrive on them.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And there's a lot of cawyes that go over there
and take out the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Do you find, oh, maye, I'll be in a kelly
yards up north there and you know, the local ute
turns up and you listen to the accent and there's
the one from Gore, and there's the one from Auckland,
and they're from christ Church. It's all out there everywhere. Yeah,
and they're good kids, you know. I know we sound
like we're getting older and so they're good kids. But
they're good young kids. They've got good ethics, you know,

(06:08):
and they seem to behave. You don't see much trouble,
and they're good workers and they have a good run.
It's really good.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now prices for lifestock over in Australia it's a pretty
buoyant scene. We're seeing record prices in New Zealand for
this season. It sounds that they're over there. It's pretty
much the same boat.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, I think it probably is. The other day. What's
some examples. The other day I sold some rising two
year old, beautiful, high quality Angus hiffers to an Angus
bull at thirty six hundred dollars still in calf, about
to drop in five weeks. I sold some last week.
I sold some third and fourth carving Angus cows to

(06:47):
wake you bulls at two and a half grand, such
good money. And then, like I said before, you know,
they saw the our prices, some of those sheep, some
of those lambs you know Big Martin that turned and
footage one hundred and sixty bucks top lambs, Yes to
that contending, I think we yarded twenty two thousand there,
and those tops at the tops for two hundred and

(07:07):
seventy two hundred and eighty bucks. It's good money, isn't it.
And it's stable.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
So twenty two thousand lambs that are sale, that's just
average numbers for you guys.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I suppose, well that's how weekly sheeps are we have here,
and then we'll have a special sale on top of that,
et cetera. So like the other day we had a
couple of special sheep sales and there was twenty twenty
five thousand on top of the normal week sales. So
there's big numbers around here.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So what do you put the prices down over there?
What do you put it down to Dave to supply
and demand or what.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Well, I think there's a couple of things. The Eastern
States buyers boys have been over for the last months,
so they drive it fairly hard. A lot of guys,
a lot of farmers aren't sending their stocks straight to
the works, the avatars, the the money's in thesarias, so
they're creating a demand which is really good. Along with
our Eastern States buyers. You know that they're not over

(07:57):
here to buy a couple of trucks. They're over here
to buy a road trains by the road trains, by
the road trains, So the demands there and that pushes
it up. You've had a lot of floods and wet
weather are the Eastern States in some areas, and you've
had a lot of drought, so there's some restocking for females.
You know, it's just that cycle.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
It's a hell of an economy of scale though, like
you talk about just road train after road train, we
talk about units over here, but it's just on a
different size.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, so I've got a road train game to Adelaide tomorrow.
It's got a thousand lambs on it and I've got
three road trains of use going on as well, So
that's a long three or four day trip, depending on
where they stop and how long they let them off
the truck for. But yeah, the economies of scale are big,
and the further norse you go, the bigger it gets,

(08:46):
you know, Like you know, it's not uncommon for on
a cattle station for a million acres to have twenty
five thousand running around somewhere, depending on the ages and
the brackets, but the numbers are big.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Regarding challenges for the rural set there over there, what
are you facing, Well, I think.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's only one challenge at the moment. It's probably the
same one as.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
You, as everyone Duel Jill.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, it's a real issue. The last month, three
road trains of lambs went to Adelaide. I saw the
bill for the diesel. It was thirty seven grand. This
week the same lambs went and it was fifty four thousand.
So there's a challenge now, we did who pays for that? Well,
the farm's going to end up paying for it eventually,

(09:29):
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
It'll be the same round fertilizer as well, I suppose
just trying to Yeah, I get the.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Playing that's fertilizer's probably number two for your cropping guys.
And obviously I don't have a lot to do with
the cropping guys, but yeah, they're fertilizers an issue. And
you know you've got a guy who's a mixed farmer
doing with to say, he's running ten thousand news and
they're running a cropping program to go alongside it. Well,
a lot of those guys will drop a couple of

(09:55):
thousand coal usual every year. Well, I've had three phone
in the last week saying I'll just keep those us
this year. I'm really concerned about the diesel rolling in
and I don't want to get caught out. You know,
their inputs are so big, they've just really got to
secure themselves. So a lot of those guys are selling
those sheep. So that's going to have an effect on

(10:16):
sale price going forward as well. So there's another influence
on the said pricing.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
So there's a good chance and a lot of crop
won't go on the ground this year.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, I wouldn't say a lot, but let's say let's
say a guy that might be putting twenty thousand acres
of cropping. He's going to hold back, you know, a
few thousand sheep. Well that's a couple of thousand acres.
So it all adds up, doesn't it. As you go
down the road and you tick off each leader box,
it all adds up.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Now again, New Zealand and Australian farming systems, you've been
over there long enough of skinning the game to identify what, Okay,
economy a scale, take that out of the equation. But
at the nuts and bolts of the operations are more
or least the same.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
In certain things. They are like they're cropping. They're cropping guys,
very very good, very very technical, and they're world beaters.
Because of the scale of the of those bigger properties.
They can't tighten stock up. Well, you can't have you
can't have a lot of sheep or cattle behind electric fence,
so you're not piling on those grams per days as

(11:18):
we do in New Zealand in those in those good areas.
So that's a real that's a real difference, but everything's
pretty similar. I think over here animals are more of
a commodity. We're in New Zealand. There's probably a bit
more love, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So were you're working to a size like you are
over there on these big stations. You're a number, not
a name, more or less. But that's you're talking tens
and tens of thousands of stock units.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
That's right, Yeah, that's right. I mean I did a
trade a few years ago and that was that was
six and a half thousand animals off one station in
one in one trade. And we had we had we
put cattle on the road and walked them to Queensland.
That took four months. And then we had so we
had a team of drivers driving nose. We had cows

(12:05):
that met the export boat market. I sold females to
South Australia, so that's five days of the truck. And
then young stock I sent to Darwin on the floodplains.
So you've got it. It's just big and it's robust.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
You know, absolutely, Dave, have you better leave it there?
May let your carry on. I'm still chuckling at those
numbers that you're thrown out us there regarding the farm size,
but nonetheless interesting to catch up and we'll do it
again in the foreseeable future. Thanks for your time.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
That'll be lovely and you have a great day.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Dave Vissa over in w A a stock agent. You
just got to chuckle at those numbers and four months
to get animals up to Queensland. You just drive them
as you do. I suppose jordy eads up. Next, we're
going from Western Australia to the River of the South, Riverton.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
A.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Chance to crush.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Welcome back to the master on Hakanui. Jody yead farms
at the River Era of the South, which is beautiful Riverton. JORDI,
good afternoon. How's everything over there at the River Era?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (13:17):
You going? And he's definitely not the river here this morning,
she's well this afternoon, she's pretty rough. Yeah, I don't know.
I think that was probably equivalent of the cyclone come
through in the night, raddled the thunder all night and
rattled the house. So yeah, so that sun sort of
trying to poke a tea out there in there.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
And a couple of chairs fell over and calamity ensued.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I see we've got about twenty mills of
rain with it. Yeah, it definitely comes forrest coming sideways
rain anyway, So this has.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Been the change of the seasons you've been anticipating, I suppose.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's as expected. We've had a
really good run, marvelous run really, so I suppose you
just got to sort of take a bit of good
of the bed and you know, next week older. But
it looks like it's going to be dry again too,
so I've had air moisture and we're ready to keep
going again.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
So you're in a pretty good place. You'd just like
to have this weather a bit warmer for a bit longer.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I sort of still wear shorts every
right through the year, and it's certainly this morning.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Your pans must get cold though. If you've got a
dirty Southerly or something brisk through, Oh, you just keep moving.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
I suppose that's the joways of sheep farmers. You never
stop moving. So I suppose that that's keeping the waltz gone.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, And you've played plenty of rugby and weather the
spim worse arguably as well. Hey, of course you've got
the dairy operation there to this Fontierra payout regarding the
commercial come through into the bank accounts. You're happy with that.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, no, it is and it'd all sort of come in.
It was quite good time and really it came in
on Tuesday and then the monthly milk chek come in yesterday.
So yeah, so no, that's certainly but there to go
back out. We're certainly pushing it back around a circle
and going to put pro track in and you know,
one thing sort of leads to another sort of gonna
have to expand our yard a bit too, so that's
probably going to tidy apple there. What we got air

(15:04):
pay up, But great sort of setup. You know, we
took the risks when we bought the dry farm five
years ago to buy some cheers and it's probably a
good satisfying return.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Say you're not too concerned about Fonterra selling out like
they have to.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
A degree, No, not when you sort of go to
some meetings and get the understanding of how they've done it.
I mean, you know, there's there's the opportunity of you know,
they've got the capital and it's not returning the rate
compared to other avenues of their business, and it sort
of makes business commercial sense really, So with.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Some Peters's barking up the wrong tree in this instance.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Oh yeah, I don't know why he sort of I
think he's just sort of wanted to look at them around,
look at himself, but a sort of given a bit
of a voice and that side of things, I don't
think he could probably just be quiet on there. Jordie,
Oh yeah, yeah. And I mean you probably see it
that the Greens are bad at it too, and you
think they could cheapen and give these sort of ten

(15:57):
cents they do even though we don't really need their
ten scents when they're minority party.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well that's the way Southland's viewed at the moment too,
being the land of milk and honey and meat quite literally,
given the way the season has provided, the way that
it has done, and just heading forward. I mean I
heard on the news headlines this morning about the positivity
for the South and how this money coming in is
just going to keep things going gangbusters.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I suppose yeah, well, I mean we're province one hundred
thousand people and I suppose they're GDP is greatly influenced
by the agriculture sector. And I mean, even with that,
you know, it would be nice to know, actually how
much of that frontier payment come to Southend, because you know,
a lot of it will be going back in a
circle back into spending on infrastructure, keeping the rest of
the province ticking.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
As far as production in the in the cows, have
you been happy with it?

Speaker 5 (16:45):
You know, we've been really happy this part of the
province have said really good rye grass growing season this year,
and you know we're still just off a bit of
meal and ma sheet and grass at the moment, I mean,
being to this, weare they're probably going to start looking
feeding some solids, but you know, to get to fifteenth
of April will not be feeding some silence. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Really.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Yeah, it's just kept going and I mean, you know
even that covers the cows are leaving plenty of covers
behind when they're going into paddocks. So you know, it's
looking good for another two rounds and we're finished up
for the year.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
In every day that you don't have these frosts is
a day that you can consider these sword temperatures to
be working in your favor.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, well, we're probably lucky down there that Theory farms
right on the estuary, so you know the saw temps
only got to about eight degrees last year, so we
don't get the sort of frost growth. It's taken a
bit of learning curve quite good growth during the winterity
on there. You can get up to about thirty kilos
a day, so you know, any airpiant of frost, Yeah,
it needs to be turned around.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Jordy Ben Dearley talked about the Alliance Group the other
day and the lack of scheduling that comes out these days.
You've got a bit of an issue with this though.
You think transparency across the board is a necessity in
the red meat sector.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Oh, one hundred percent. You know, we supplied the company
for fifteen years and you know we always had good
communication and you know they're paying the top dollar. I
mean they might be paying top dollar now, but you
have to message your drafter now. You know, you want
to be transparent about front saying we are the company
paying the most, so.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
You know, it just frustrates the hell out of me
sort of. You know that you've got good faith in
your drafters, but you know they've got to be competitive,
and I think they've probably starting to realize that if
you're not competitive now you want to get the supply
because i mean they're a private company now. It's just
a whole different Kettle Fish.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Alliance's viewpoint, though Don Morrison's talked about this more often
than not, Jordy, is that everybody else bases himself off
their schedule because they're the only ones that seem to
be open about it. What do you say to that, Oh.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think that might have been maybe two or three
years ago when they're cooperative, but nice different story now.
I think everybody's you know, there is sort of a
base schedule out the en and I mean you'll see
no from five minutes who's paying what and who's paying this?
So yeah, I think they're just to be transparent. They'
to be upfront, we're paying this. You know, it'd get supply,
it's it's probably the capacity issues probably has been addressed there.

(19:01):
So you know, I suppose time will tell in the
next six to twelve months, is that the.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Door meets factor coming through perhaps regarding this.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, I suppose they've sort of having a bit of
a clean out of management, and I mean that may
sort of put things in the right direction and see
a bit of influence there. So I suppose the time
will tell.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Well, they've got the name on the back of the
Stags Jersey this year, so they're trying to stay a
bit more local. I suppose.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, what sort of dumbfounds me that that hasn't been
done in the past when there are South and Dawn
Bred Company, that they didn't have that out in the open.
So that's quite interesting that that's just taken the sort
of a purchase of the Irish to have that influence.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Nonetheless, it is occurring. How's it going with the lambs
there anyway? How the weight's been Yeah, and know.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
The weights we're you know, we're killing lambs in the
twenties now, and I mean we've never done that before,
and I mean it's just one of those seasons. Really,
I suppose we have good lemming and good dollars, and
you know, it's just great that they've been growing well too,
so you know, and we've been kicking through it right
through them, continue yet them. You know, we haven't got
a lot left, so you know, you sort of have
five hundred ho bans as well. That's got cetus fine

(20:05):
to know that, you know, you can know well over
two hundred dollars for a hocket lamb. Certainly that makes
chick salmon heavy at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Good only Jordy, always appreciate your time. Wrap up this afternoon,
look after those legs of yours.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah thats anything.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
No, Jordy Yeed farming at Riverton, the River of the South. Coincidentally,
this song here called Yellow by Coldplay. This is a
song that really launched them into the music stratosphere around
the world back in mid two thousand. So Coldplay being
the artist for a Thursday. Sarah Swimbourne's up next to
the Beef and Lamb slut. This is the Muster.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
Sarah Swimbourne joins this afternoon in our Beef and Lamb
Chat for the week. Sarah, good afternoon. You're based up
there at Lawrence. How things been?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Good?

Speaker 7 (21:08):
Thank you Andy. We've had a cracking good season this year.
Certainly can't complain when we're getting paid well for our
produce and we've got lots of feed in front of
us for them. So it's yeah, it's been a fairly
stress for a year. After the side from the window end,
it's been pretty stress free from there on. So I
can't complain much about this season.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
It's been great, Yes, certainly a good heads space to be.
And now beef and lamb New Zealand's latest farming for
proper field day down here in the south. It's happening
around Lawrence and they're not too distant future.

Speaker 7 (21:41):
It's happening in Milton at the Total Rugby Club. Sorry, Andy,
here we go. It's happening in Milton on the eighth
of May. Yeah, and it's we're looking at pest management
strategies because it's it's sort of a growing area that's
a bit of a challenge for we've got you know,
it doesn't matter where you go, you seem to hear

(22:03):
increasing reports of people struggling with deer populations, pig populations,
rabbit populations, poss and populations. So we thought, well, there's
clearly a need to sit down and talk about some
longer term strategies about how we as farmers manage those
populations on our properties.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Why are the increase in peace numbers? Is it due
to a change of farming practice.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Yeah, I think with the land that we are seeing
going into forestry at the moment, that is having an
influence on it. So yeah, we've certainly seen those pest
populations increase, and I think there's a lot of aspects

(22:52):
around pest management that are outside of our control, what
our neighbors do, what funding there is, what is written
around it, And as frustrating as that might be, I
think as far as we still need to take ownership
for our land and how we manage it, because these
animals are having a detrimental effect on our production and

(23:14):
on our profitability and your mental health about seeing you know,
huge populations of animals eating the feed for your livestock
and seeing your production disappear and paddocks being turned over,
and it's it's hard to block out that that challenge mentally,
So how do we how do we future proof our

(23:37):
properties so that we can be more productive and be
more profitable going into the future.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's interesting you mentioned legislation there, Sarah, What do you
mean by that exactly?

Speaker 7 (23:51):
I think in terms of that legislation, there's an awful
lot of these animals that aren't the cleared pests by
regional count and so there isn't the responsibility for all
land owners to manage populations and some of the legislation
around responsibilities for non farming land to manage their pests

(24:16):
as gray. Shall we leave it at.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
That, well, straight off the calf, Sorry Sarah, but I'll
just say here, likes of uff in Lake Tia. Now
in Canadian geese.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
I mean we probably aren't seeing the geese in South
Otago as much, but absolutely geese are a huge problem.
I know up in the hangar Angi Way they are
a real problem up there, and certainly up into the
Manitota geese are a huge problem and people are spending
huge resources trying to manage them and limit them. And

(24:51):
I think everywhere we turn we've got increasing pest numbers.
So it's my hope for the day is to look
at some practical tools for farmers and ideas that they
can look at long term rather than spending money on
pace control. Do we need to balance that with changing

(25:12):
our style of fencing so that we can keep them
out of our properties rather than try and keeping them
reducing our numbers on the properties. And I think what
every way you go, It's going to have to be multifaceted.
But we've got some really good speakers coming, really good
experience to shed some light and offer some suggestions. So

(25:35):
I'm looking forward to it and I'm hoping it's going
to be a great day with some really good constructive
suggestions and really good discussion. I'm really hoping for those
that come along that they're going to bring questions about
their own property and challenges that they've got so that
we can have a really good discussion about it there
and a good conversation.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
So it's a good chance just to challenge the status
quote around eradication.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
So and I know that the OARC have got their
pest management program up for review at the moment, so
I think it's a really timely occasion to have a
discussion around this and look at what's working and not
and for farmers to put their feedback in on that
about what they would like to see in the future.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
So yeah, we've.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Got Sam the Trapman coming down from up Gisbon and
he's done a huge amount of work both helping farmers
but also in the conservation space around reducing deer populations,
pig populations, poss and populations both to see farming thrive
but also to see native flora and fauna thrive in

(26:44):
conservation areas. Peter Preston is our other speaker who's coming.
And Peter has spent his life working in rabbit pest control.
He still works as a contractor and what I'm really
interested to hear from him about up personally is his
involvement with the Coudrona Catchment Group who purchased some of

(27:07):
the old carrot cutting and screening equipment from the o
rc SO when they sold their gear ofs. So the
Codrona Catchment Group and Peter Preston are producing baited carrots
and they are available for sale across Otago and Southland.
So I'm quite keen to pick Peter's brain about that

(27:28):
and how that works in you know what requirements there
are for debating properties to add that in on top
of night shooting and possibly fencing if rabbits or a
real challenge.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Now for people who wish to turn up Sarah reservations
or whatever the wording is around event attending these events,
they need to do it.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
Registration registration helpful, please, it's not a motel. Registrations are
always helpful. If we've got an idea of how many
people are coming, it helps us know for for catering
and making sure we've got a good sized venue and seating. If, however,
you've got a change of plans, you are welcome to
just rock up on the day and register on the day.

(28:10):
But if you can head along to the Beef and
Lamb event's website and find an event inside the farm
Gate practical Control Tools for Feral Animals and register for that,
it would be great to see you all there.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Sarah Swimborne always appreciate your time on the Muster.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Thank you Andy, Sarah Swimbourne.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
And the Beef and Lambslot Beeflamindi dot com slash events
to receive the e Diary into your inbox every Friday morning.
Senior Sergeant Gary Eddington and the Gore Police. He's at
nextas welcome back to the Muster. Coldfly. There's the music

(29:02):
Viva Lavida, a song from the late two thousands. As
we catch up with Senior Sergeant Gary Edington of the
Good Police.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
Gary, good afternoon, good afternoon, good afternoons to the community.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Since how's it been over the last three while.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, well we haven't had any summer so we've had
maybe the odd day here and there, but just the
weather's obviously changing now and you know, policing goes on
the communities is good.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
No, we had a couple of weeks of a late summer,
but apart from it, it's been pretty average. I suppose
when you think about.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
It, good good for the water and the farms.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Maybe that's about it. Really an interesting to talk about farming.
We'll touch with the on this one straight away. Gary. Poaching,
it's the roar at the moment. Dark shooting isn't too
far away, but like I say, people are out there
in the hills. Unfortunately, poaching is a big concern.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
It is.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Yeah, if people are out there, and that made efforts
to sort of talk to dark or farm outing illegally
on the blocks and you know, out there and legally
and lawfully just you know, remind them about the farm's principles.
But unfortunately there's a small element out there that think
they can push the boundaries. And yeah, so we're just
really concerned around people's responsibilities, their safety, and obviously the

(30:15):
lawful hunting side of it. So what we're asking out
and reaching out to you is if you do know
of anyone or you see anything or vehicles at the time,
report it and let us know as opposter. After the fact,
and then we're probably in a better position to actually
do something. We want to try and catch them and
hold them.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Accountable as poaching bigger numbers than what we've normally seen.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
I think it's always you know, it's a national there's
always going to be people around, you know, there's always
things happening. But I wouldn't say it's There's obviously a
lot that goes on reported as well, but there's people
out there, small element that's actually working for everyone else.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
And while we're talking about the farm, it's all it's
very important at the moment to lock up your essay.
It's the price of fuel, we don't need to talk
about that, but the concern as people are out there
trying to get cheaps stuff.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
There's a lot go around obviously the world at the
moment that has an impact on every country in the world.
And you know, and not just the sort of diesel
and the rural thefts, but also the knock on the
food and the implication that has on people that need
fuel to run power you might have medical problems. So
we're just obviously reaching out again, you know, to people

(31:20):
if you do know everyone who's out there stealing or
you're see any vehicles again or anything suspicious, report it
at the time and if it is happening in one,
one one because we want to try and hold these
people accountable. Has implications and costs and people's livelihoods.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But a good reminder for people too when you're looking
at your business, don't put the key behind the tire
or anything like that. Lock things up securely. Look at
CCTV if you're in a position to do so. This
just goes for anybody as well, because opportunistic saves they'll
just pop up.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
We neither absolutely. And also you know, if people are
using social media, you know the keyboard warriors, you know,
there's thing sometimes there's things that happen that we're not
aware all reported. So we can't do what we can't do.
And I've said this before. If the things happening, let
us know. It might be small, small to them, but
a big part of the jigsal puzzle for us. And
as again there's only a small element out there that
are stealing and we believe we want to try and

(32:12):
catch them and we'll all catch them.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
As far as boy Race is Gary what's happening there.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
So there's again there's having a driving license is a privilege,
is not a given, and the amount of times have
to have this conversation. But there's a few people out
there that decide to think they can do burnouts on
public roads. They think they can speed and be above
the law. Their driming is inconfident, it's stupid and it
will have some serious consequences. So if you do see

(32:38):
anything or video anything again, let us know it. We'll
be happy to go around and speak to these people,
impounder car and send them off to call.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
So it's a matter of just speaking out when you
say anything happened mora or less? I suppose yep.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
I mean there's things we have to prioritize, you know,
it might not happen overnight and things. You know, we
do have lots of things coming and going every day
and course reserves, but you know, we do need to
know this. It's really important to me and also the community.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Boozebus as well. It's pretty active around the streets
of East and South and do you see it and
go more often than not? Gary, Are we seeing any
changes as they're getting through the messaging.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Oh, you know, we've got the rugby season, the sports season,
is all coming up, and what we're just saying to
people just think about what you're going to do next
to consequences, think about your actions and planning. Yeah, there's
people are to continue to drink drive. I don't know
why or what message we need to put out there.
It has some serious consequences, both on themselves but more
on the families and you know, and drinking driving. No

(33:36):
one can be a good driver. They might think they are,
but they're not. So we're just saying to people, if
you do you see anyone drink driving, deal with it
with them if they can. If not, then report it.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
What are we saying in the mental health space?

Speaker 6 (33:49):
I think people going through some tough times at the
moment across the board, and what we're trying to say
to people is like scams and all sorts of things
and businesses, if things hard within the family or you know,
just reaching out to family, reaching out one seven three seven,
speaking to someone around the mental healthy GP or family member,

(34:10):
it's really really important. We just want people to try
and you know, your problem shared is a problem half
as the saying goes, and we just want people to
try and sort of reach out recognizing that you're not
on your own.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Looks of for South and roural support trust as well.
There are avenues out there for people. There's a big
message as well, and we talk about this time and again,
but there are ways for people to get in touch
with you if you're not coping.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Absolutely and there's a lot of support out there. We
just want to make sure people reach out. That's the
big thing. And it's okay to be not to be.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
And those numbers once again one oh five of us
non urgent, but triuple one if it's a life of
as a life threatening emergency absolutely yeah, Hey good only
Gary send your sage and Gary doesn't other Core police coincidentally,
you're not a Tottingham Hotspur fan by chance, absolutely not.
How good to see them get relegated if it happens.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Eh, well there's a talk of an international talk of
the shows at the moment.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Gonna be interesting how that pans out. Good on you, Gary,
always appreciate your time. You guys keep out the great
work well do.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Thanks and thanks to all the community as well.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Senor Sergeant Gary Edington of the Gore Police. I talk
about Tottenham Hotspur because to talk about this of Nathan
Burden next to our residence sporting Guru. There's a great
chance that Spurs could be relegated from the Premier League,
which is unheard of. That welcome back to the muster.

(35:41):
Our residence sporting Guru is Nathan Burden. Good afternoon, Good mate.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Hell here, it feels like a long time since we've
had a good, good natter.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
You've been busy golfing all around the North Island.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
You fantastic trip away with the boys, six courses in
six days, Hawks Bay and across the Topaul was a
trip of a lifetime actually, and the Gulf possibly wasn't stellar,
but the courses where so yeah, a great trip, but
also pleased to be home.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Now you've been practicing your golf do you reckon? The
Highlander has been practicing their line out this week.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
It's been a recurring theme this season, hasn't it. And
you can't You can't win games if you can't win
your line out. It's just such a such a central
tenant of the of the rugby game. So I must
admit I was watching the Southland Sharks make their season debut,
so by the time I got home I sort of
had to toss up whether I wanted to watch the

(36:37):
Highlanders watch the highlights of that game, and by the
sounds of it, there weren't too many.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I took a vested interest in watching that games. There
was some fifty to fifty kels. I wouldn't say they
struggling to stay relevant, but look, as a Stags fan,
it's hard enough supporting South then knowing that you're going
to lose more games than you win. Well, I don't
really feel the need to do that with another team.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
So I guess this season we were just hoping to
see some more from from last year. Last year felt
like a bit of a reset and hopefully we would
see a bit more direction and progression this year. And
I don't know if we've seen that.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
What's the problem? You reckon.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Really hard to put your finger on it, and I
guess I sort of You know, in times like these,
you hark back to sort of those early those those
twenty tens, going through to that that peak Highlanders team
of twenty fifteen that managed to win the Super Rugby title.
You know, for many years there it seemed like there
was a franchise going no where. They were struggling to

(37:33):
attract any sort of talent. They certainly couldn't get all
blacks except for the ones that they know that they
that they bought in. Then all of a sudden they
Ben Smith, Aaron Smith. They managed to build a team
around those guys. Tony Brown arrived to support Jamie Joseph
and they and they won a title. So these things
can turn around. I guess the Highlander is of any franchise.

(37:56):
You know, we're always going to struggle down here in
terms of a smaller catchment, smaller commercial base, less ability
to attract players. I've got to work harder in that space.
So but you know, lovely stadium to play in, passionate crowd,
with the zoo and that sort of thing. So I
guess you've got to play to your strengths. And if
you look around the world, you know, you look at

(38:17):
your Brumbies, your Peak Brumbies, you look at your Green
Bay Packers, you look at these probably smaller market sort
of teams who have been able to be successful over
periods of time, and maybe there's some lessons that we
can learn from there.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Well, yeah, stadium in Duneda is very nice, but unfortunately
christ Church is going to supersede it. But the big
story out of Crusaders Land, I don't think the rest
of the country cares too much, is that they're not
allowed to have their horses running around the outside of
one in zed stadium or the outside of the pitch.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, I guess at the risk of putting my Crusaders
following friends and their noses out of joint, you know,
it's hard to get too much of a care factor
going so obviously a big part of the marketing for
the game up there. But but as someone looking from Afar,
it's well, you know, I guess when I first heard
it was a bit of a shrug of the shoulders

(39:05):
and let's move on. But it's it's obviously a bigger
deal in Red and Black Land.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Well one in Pacifica. It sounds as are the writings
on the wall for them now. Lima Supperwanga, of course,
played for the Landers when they won the title in
twenty fifteen, played for the Stags for a couple of
years as well. He made the passion pleague last night
on social media, saying that it was up to the
end are in the likes to save Auana Pacifica, to
keep them into the competition. Because rugby in the Islands
is going to suffer as a result.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, you can have some sympathy, I guess for Lima's
point of view, it is it's a sad day obviously
for the players and staff and people involved in that franchise,
and never nice when people are having their jobs. You know,
lots of lots of question marks around there, and it
is a it's a tragic sort of situation in terms

(39:55):
of I guess trying to create a strong pathway and
op unities for pacifica players who you know, we know
are such a massive part of world rugby, let alone
New Zealand Rugby. But I just don't realistically, it's hard
to see whether New Zealand. New Zealand Rugby can't afford
to prop up a sixth franchise. We're reading stories about

(40:19):
how New Zealand Rugby is already pouring a lot of
money into the into the five New Zealand franchises, let
alone trying to prop up a sixth one for altruistic reasons.
So yes, in a perfect world, New Zealand Rugby would
would would give out Pacific Island brethren, you know, a
hand up. But I just don't think they're in a

(40:41):
position to do it.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Is it a case so that we need more duty
of care towards the island nations, given that there've been
a breeding ground for a lot of bull blacks over
the years. Or is it a case of just reality
at the moment and it's purely a financial situation.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, I guess it's that it's that financial reality crashing
up against I guess venus justice. You're quite right. New
Zealand rugby has benefited hugely from our being so close
to Pacific and you think of some many, many wonderful
players that have appeared in our franchises and in our

(41:15):
black jersey over the years. But you know, if we
can't afford it, we can't afford it.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
We look at world sport. Did you talk about money
walking or money talking as such? You'll go to the
Premier League. Tottenham Hotspur arguably one of the big teams,
glamoured teams at English Premier League. There are the relegation
zone at the moment. They've been in the top flight
since nineteen ninety two and the EPL started to exist.
This would be massive headlines in the sporting world as

(41:41):
Spurs were to be relegated, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
H J. And there's a lot of Spurs fans across
New Zealand. It's just it's I guess promotion relegation and
it's potentially it's one of those things that our rugby
competitions sorely lack, isn't. It just creates so much drama.
The money that's available to those Premier League teams and

(42:05):
the extra broadcasting rights that they receive and what that
allows them to do in terms of investing back into
their club is just so huge. You can see what
it means to the fans, and you know, following along
those documentaries of clubs like Sunderland over the years and
seeing what their fight has been to try and get
back into the big lights, you can tell how much

(42:25):
it means. So yeah, there'll be some there'll be some
Hearts or Tottenham Hotspur fans out there for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Good on yours, Always appreciate your time.

Speaker 8 (42:35):
Lovely thanks mate, Laugh out loud with ag proud because
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Speaker 1 (42:47):
A woman's a bed with her lover when she suddenly
here is her husband opening the front door panecking. She whispers, quack,
stand on the corner. Don't move, pretend you're a statue.
Moments later, her husband walks into the bedroomn noticedes a figure.
What's there? He said, Oh that, She says casually, it's
a statue. The Smiths bought one for their bedroom. I
liked it so much and got one for us. Satisfied
the husband's trucks, gets shrugs, gets into bed and goes asleep.

(43:10):
Abow three in the morning, he quietly gets up, goes
to the kitchen room, turns with a sandwich and a
glass of milk. He walks out of the statue and
hands him over here. He says, eat something. I still
like this like an idiot at the best place for
three days and no one offered me as much as
a glass of milk. That's us for the afternoon. The
podcast is up shortly. I'many muher. The muster is brought

(43:31):
to you, of course by Peterson Nerlex. Enjoy the afternoon
and I'll see you tomorrow. He did you write some
presents stock selling action that occurred at the Chelton saw
Yard this morning? Once again, Dave Morrison gives us a
rundown on prices, get a tagle, how do we go?

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, looks.

Speaker 9 (43:52):
This morning, but that's all good. Just need the best
named fifty millions anywhere from sort of one eighty five
to two hundred with the lighter of the prime lambs,
sort of one sixty five to one seventy in the
bout section small yeallion, the best news couple hundred dollars,

(44:15):
millions sort of one seventy five, one eighty five with
the lighting Commission news still just coming around anywhere from
one hundred and five hundred and twenty hundred and twenty
five dollars. Stare Lambs and the goody good yeating Stare
Lambs today but sold very very well. We're certainly after
calm today. Got through those a couple of short weeks
and certain bit of interest sewing now for Lambs. The

(44:36):
best store lamps today anywhere from sort of one to
seventy five to one ninety millions, one fifty five to
one seventy with the small lamps around that sort of
hundred and thirty five hundred and forty five hundred and
fifty dollars. So yeah, like I said, a real lifted
stare Land market today, I've also just like to mention
and the next Thursday, Kettle Cut Face mass stall lamps

(44:59):
sold annual stare Lands Autumn Sail. We're going to be
held down and then promptly then properly down south and
Holes Road just off Gurds Road starting one thirty and
that wramps somebody be called any Yeah,
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