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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Former president of South con Federated Farmers. Now he is
his zald first candidate for the Southend Electric Electric Electric Jason,
Good afternoon, Freshly. Congratulations you guys had your feeds a
GM last night, it would have been a bittersweet moment.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, thanks for having me Indian. It was. It was
an awesome evening. A GM went very smoothly. I guess
speakers were when you next level was always and you know,
we've got some good sound soul of people in fed's
here in South lond that are you know, wanting in
chomping to get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We're talking about people chomping to get into roles. You're gone,
who replaces you?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, so, Crystal and previous president before me has actually
stepped back into the role in the interim because we
need that strong voice at the top of the table.
And he's well versed in everything that's going on at
the moment. He knows everything that I have been working
on with the executive that you know, there's a lot
of things out there that aren't resolved, getting around the
(01:02):
Gorgeistra Council, the Waternal Lagoon and obviously farm plans and
winter grazing coming up with environments south and so you
know he is willing to take the lead on that
and with the assistance of the rest of the executive
And yep, we'll work new people into the role in
the future because we've got some very good up and
(01:23):
coming people there.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
So you're anticipating Chris to hold the role until the
next age GM.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm not sure what the timeframe will be on that.
It depends on Chris's movements into the future. But yeah,
there's a lot of a lot of water to go
under the bridge. But like I said, we've got a
good executive, We've got some real good up and comers there.
People just need to understand before they step into the
role what the role actually entails. So, which is why
Chris is putting his hand up.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
What made you choose New Zealand? First?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, look, my value is align more with New Zealand
first than any other political party. First and foremost, it's
about New Zealand. It's about one one nation, you know,
and one people in this device of nature that's out
there across all political parties. Just just went against them
for me, and that's what drew me straight to news
(02:13):
on the first.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Speaking of the Feed's dinner last night, did you have
butter chicken on the menu?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I knew you were gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, it's a pretty it's fair enough question, Jason, because
Shane James, coming out the way that he that he did,
it has been condained a lot of quarters and rightly
so do you agree with what he says?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hey, look, I mean Shane would have said that with
tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's not a good look though in a statement environment
like this, So you have to agree, considering you've got
skin in the game with FEDS, considering the amount of
people from over through the continent now working in the
South and agriculture sector.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Absolutely, but you've got to take things in tongue and
you know, with a bit of tongue in cheeck sometimes
and and see it in it's in its context, and
you know, you've only got to look back in history
with some of our influential figures of the past. Ability
Jane will be rolling in his grave right now looking
and hearing all of the insinuendos that people use to
(03:11):
try and discredit somebody. And you know, from what I've
got to know Shane, he's not that way. Inclined whatsoever,
and anyone who knows him will all say the same.
So you know, let's let's just keep it in reality
and a bit of common sense about this and not
try and blow it up out of proportion as to
what people are doing.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well you can really because the optics are a bad look.
That's close to an election.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh, I mean, people are going to say stuff and
they're gonna twist things to suit their own narrative. There's
no no two ways about that whatsoever, because they're going
to try and discredit you to to push people into
what you want, okay, and what we the direction you
want to go. So you know, of course they're going
to they're going to blow it all up out of proportion.
But you know, Ebrie has their opinion. They're in totaled
(03:53):
to their opinion. What Shane said has said, So let's
just move on.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I do say federated farmers would have agreed with a
SAFTA going through a VINDI at New Zealand first are
against it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Where do you stand, hey, lot, Federator farmers are going
to support the FDA because it benefits farmers, right, and
that's there, that's their lane, that's their the thing as
a whole. There's more in the FTA than just benefits
to farmers and growers. There are other aspects of it
which New Zealand First have been very clear on that
they don't agree with, and to be honest, I agree
(04:24):
with those aspects as well. You know, I'm a firm
believer Andy that you don't sign yourself up to something
that has something bad and not just because it's got
something good in it. You know, you've got to weigh
all the all the options and what's actually going to
be good for the entire country. So good on Winston
for standing his ground on it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So you've changed your rit trick based on the fact
you're no longer in feeds because I dare say nine
times out of ten, if not ten times out of
ten people in federative farmers that say used to sign
the damn thing.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's not about changing changing the rhetoric, absolutely not. You know,
I have my beliefs and I am right behind the
ryal sector because it is the backbone of the country.
And yeah, don't give me your Winston thinks exactly the same.
He knows that the backbone of the country is built
around agriculture. And the royal sector. But he also wants
what's best for the country, you know, New Zealand first,
(05:12):
that's what stands for you know, and you've got to
look at history gone by. So we could talk all
day on on on, you know, particular points of politics.
I'm only new into the game, and you know, I'm
not a career politician. I'm a grassroots person from the
you know, from on the ground, and I look at
things from a more common sense, realistic point of view,
(05:33):
which is, you know, the skill set that I hope
to bring to New Zealand first.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And cambent MP Joseph Mooney, He's got one of the
biggest majorities in New Zealand politics at the moment. Do
you hope to eat into that vote? Do you realistically
think you can knock Joseph Ufer's perch?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He look, I realistically think I can definitely eat into
that vote. You know, the South of electorate has always
been seen as a safe national seat. There's no two
ways about that. And when you look at the results,
you know there's no much cut through from from the
Southern province to the South and get you know a
lot of attention or listen too much in the in
(06:07):
the top jobs. To me, it appears not because they
see it as a safe national seat. So you know,
people out there are looking for change, they're looking for options.
Are they happy with the current rhetoric from the conversations
I'm having no, So the opportunity is there for for
the right person to step up, and and absolutely within
(06:29):
the South and electorate, Joseph is an absolute hell of
a nice guy. He's in the role and he's going
to do his best to bat for national.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Have you been in collus of Joseph your announcement A.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Look, I run Joseph before the announcement and just to
let him know what my intentions were, and you know,
he was really good about it and says, you know,
good luck to the for the upcoming election. And we're
obviously going to be doing quite a bit together on
the road and campaigning and so on. It's not to
say that we're not going to talk to each other,
because we will talk to each other. We've been pretty
good friends and close allies on a lot of stuff
(07:04):
over the last two years as president, but before that
as the executive So you know, I do have a
close relationship with him and I'll continue to do so.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
But this close out to election, Jason, wouldn't you say
it's every candidate for themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh? Absolutely, But we've all got to work together, right
you know at the moment there's a coalition government and
there with multiple parties, so you know, you've got to
keep those relationships respectful, you've got to keep them close
because you never know where you're going to be working
with them in the future.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
As far as a party list, any idea where your
ranking is going to be.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, no idea whatsoever. And it's all determined on the
amount of effort and work and the skill set you
bring to the party and we're not going to find
that out put later on most of the way through
the election, so I think it's around September October they announced.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That, and fair play. Mark Patterson's been doing a good
job in the rural sector as well being Associate Minister
of Agriculture. No doubt he's been giving you a few tips.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, absolutely, Mark's been doing an outstanding job. And you
know with feeds, we've been meeting with them three four
times a year bringing issues to the table and to
be honest, we're getting a lot of resolution uh, you know,
we have been getting a lot of resolution. Sorry, I've
got to change my rhetoric on that now, don't know.
And like I said, he does get results, which is great,
(08:23):
and I've got to know him quite well over the
last two years. I'm meeting with them all that, all
those times, and the hell of a good guy. And
one of the reasons that I did, you know, make
the decision to move to New Zealand first as well?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What's for tea tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
What's for tea tonight?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah? You didn't have a better checken last night. Are
you going to have a bit of a feed tonight?
You reckon?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hey, lock, I like butter chicken, it's acually really nice.
But no, I've actually got steak on the menu tonight.
I've got sitting on the on the bench to frosting
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Good on to Jason. Always appreciate your time. Once again,
congratulations for putting your hand up and putting your name forward.
It's not an easy gig to be involved with. We'll
catch up in due course.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's good. Thank Hetty.
Former president of South con Federated Farmers. Now he is
his zald first candidate for the Southend Electric Electric Electric Jason,
Good afternoon, Freshly. Congratulations you guys had your feeds a
GM last night, it would have been a bittersweet moment.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, thanks for having me Indian. It was. It was
an awesome evening. A GM went very smoothly. I guess
speakers were when you next level was always and you know,
we've got some good sound soul of people in fed's
here in South lond that are you know, wanting in
chomping to get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We're talking about people chomping to get into roles. You're gone,
who replaces you?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yes, so, Crystal and previous president before me has actually
stepped back into the role in the interim because we
need that strong voice at the top of the table.
And he's well versed in everything that's going on at
the moment. He knows everything that I have been working
on with the executive that you know, there's a lot
of things out there that aren't resolved, getting around the
(01:02):
Gorgeistra Council, the Waternal Lagoon and obviously farm plans and
winter grazing coming up with environments south and so you
know he is willing to take the lead on that
and with the assistance of the rest of the executive
And yep, we'll work new people into the role in
the future because we've got some very good up and
(01:23):
coming people there.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
So you're anticipating Chris to hold the role until the
next age GM.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm not sure what the timeframe will be on that.
It depends on Chris's movements into the future. But yeah,
there's a lot of a lot of water to go
under the bridge. But like I said, we've got a
good executive, We've got some real good up and comers there.
People just need to understand before they step into the
role what the role actually entails. So, which is why
Chris is putting his hand up.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
What made you choose New Zealand? First?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Hey, look, my value is align more with New Zealand
first than any other political party. First and foremost, it's
about New Zealand. It's about one one nation, you know,
and one people in this device of nature that's out
there across all political parties. Just just went against them
for me, and that's what drew me straight to news
(02:13):
on the first.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Speaking of the Feed's dinner last night, did you have
butter chicken on the menu?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I knew you were gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, it's a pretty it's fair enough question, Jason, because
Shane James, coming out the way that he that he did,
it has been condained a lot of quarters and rightly
so do you agree with what he says?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hey, look, I mean Shane would have said that with
tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's not a good look though in a statement environment
like this, So you have to agree, considering you've got
skin in the game with FEDS, considering the amount of
people from over through the continent now working in the
South and agriculture sector.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Absolutely, but you've got to take things in tongue and
you know, with a bit of tongue in cheeck sometimes
and and see it in it's in its context, and
you know, you've only got to look back in history
with some of our influential figures of the past. Ability
Jane will be rolling in his grave right now looking
and hearing all of the insinuendos that people use to
(03:11):
try and discredit somebody. And you know, from what I've
got to know Shane, he's not that way. Inclined whatsoever,
and anyone who knows him will all say the same.
So you know, let's let's just keep it in reality
and a bit of common sense about this and not
try and blow it up out of proportion as to
what people are doing.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well you can really because the optics are a bad look.
That's close to an election.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Oh, I mean, people are going to say stuff and
they're gonna twist things to suit their own narrative. There's
no no two ways about that whatsoever, because they're going
to try and discredit you to to push people into
what you want, okay, and what we the direction you
want to go. So you know, of course they're going
to they're going to blow it all up out of proportion.
But you know, Ebrie has their opinion. They're in totaled
(03:53):
to their opinion. What Shane said has said, So let's
just move on.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I do say federated farmers would have agreed with a
SAFTA going through a VINDI at New Zealand first are
against it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Where do you stand, hey, lot, Federator farmers are going
to support the FDA because it benefits farmers, right, and
that's there, that's their lane, that's their the thing as
a whole. There's more in the FTA than just benefits
to farmers and growers. There are other aspects of it
which New Zealand First have been very clear on that
they don't agree with, and to be honest, I agree
(04:24):
with those aspects as well. You know, I'm a firm
believer Andy that you don't sign yourself up to something
that has something bad and not just because it's got
something good in it. You know, you've got to weigh
all the all the options and what's actually going to
be good for the entire country. So good on Winston
for standing his ground on it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
So you've changed your rit trick based on the fact
you're no longer in feeds because I dare say nine
times out of ten, if not ten times out of
ten people in federative farmers that say used to sign
the damn thing.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It's not about changing changing the rhetoric, absolutely not. You know,
I have my beliefs and I am right behind the
ryal sector because it is the backbone of the country.
And yeah, don't give me your Winston thinks exactly the same.
He knows that the backbone of the country is built
around agriculture. And the royal sector. But he also wants
what's best for the country, you know, New Zealand first,
(05:12):
that's what stands for you know, and you've got to
look at history gone by. So we could talk all
day on on on, you know, particular points of politics.
I'm only new into the game, and you know, I'm
not a career politician. I'm a grassroots person from the
you know, from on the ground, and I look at
things from a more common sense, realistic point of view,
(05:33):
which is, you know, the skill set that I hope
to bring to New Zealand first.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And cambent MP Joseph Mooney, He's got one of the
biggest majorities in New Zealand politics at the moment. Do
you hope to eat into that vote? Do you realistically
think you can knock Joseph Ufer's perch?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He look, I realistically think I can definitely eat into
that vote. You know, the South of electorate has always
been seen as a safe national seat. There's no two
ways about that. And when you look at the results,
you know there's no much cut through from from the
Southern province to the South and get you know a
lot of attention or listen too much in the in
(06:07):
the top jobs. To me, it appears not because they
see it as a safe national seat. So you know,
people out there are looking for change, they're looking for options.
Are they happy with the current rhetoric from the conversations
I'm having no, So the opportunity is there for for
the right person to step up, and and absolutely within
(06:29):
the South and electorate, Joseph is an absolute hell of
a nice guy. He's in the role and he's going
to do his best to bat for national.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Have you been in collus of Joseph your announcement A.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Look, I run Joseph before the announcement and just to
let him know what my intentions were, and you know,
he was really good about it and says, you know,
good luck to the for the upcoming election. And we're
obviously going to be doing quite a bit together on
the road and campaigning and so on. It's not to
say that we're not going to talk to each other,
because we will talk to each other. We've been pretty
good friends and close allies on a lot of stuff
(07:04):
over the last two years as president, but before that
as the executive So you know, I do have a
close relationship with him and I'll continue to do so.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
But this close out to election, Jason, wouldn't you say
it's every candidate for themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh? Absolutely, But we've all got to work together, right
you know at the moment there's a coalition government and
there with multiple parties, so you know, you've got to
keep those relationships respectful, you've got to keep them close
because you never know where you're going to be working
with them in the future.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
As far as a party list, any idea where your
ranking is going to be.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, no idea whatsoever. And it's all determined on the
amount of effort and work and the skill set you
bring to the party and we're not going to find
that out put later on most of the way through
the election, so I think it's around September October they announced.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That, and fair play. Mark Patterson's been doing a good
job in the rural sector as well being Associate Minister
of Agriculture. No doubt he's been giving you a few tips.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, absolutely, Mark's been doing an outstanding job. And you
know with feeds, we've been meeting with them three four
times a year bringing issues to the table and to
be honest, we're getting a lot of resolution uh, you know,
we have been getting a lot of resolution. Sorry, I've
got to change my rhetoric on that now, don't know.
And like I said, he does get results, which is great,
(08:23):
and I've got to know him quite well over the
last two years. I'm meeting with them all that, all
those times, and the hell of a good guy. And
one of the reasons that I did, you know, make
the decision to move to New Zealand first as well?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What's for tea tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
What's for tea tonight?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah? You didn't have a better checken last night. Are
you going to have a bit of a feed tonight?
You reckon?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Hey, lock, I like butter chicken, it's acually really nice.
But no, I've actually got steak on the menu tonight.
I've got sitting on the on the bench to frosting
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Good on to Jason. Always appreciate your time. Once again,
congratulations for putting your hand up and putting your name forward.
It's not an easy gig to be involved with. We'll
catch up in due course.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's good. Thank Hetty.
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