July 5, 2026 • 44 mins
Andy Muir talks to Andy Dennis, Eric Roy, Richard Slee, Ben Dooley and Morgan Greene.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A drum inn a monk.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Drum.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakkanui. My
name is Andy Muller. We're here insuil two o'clock this afternoon.
Of course, the show is brought to you by Peters Genetics.
Welcome along after a massive weekend for the South. Tom
Slee FMG Young Farmer of the Year winner for twenty
twenty six, which is just a tip of the iceberry
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for the South as well. I'll just give you a
bit of an understanding of what the self won of
a grand Final Season fifty eight. Tom Slee obviously winner
of season fifty eight a Tiger South and Best Region
for the second year in a row. Beyler Edgkin was
named Emerging Member of the Year, Clinton Young Farmers won
the Best District Final and Robert Wilson won the National
(00:54):
Trap shooting, with Shane Senders place second. And the teen's
out there doing the fencing as well, Megan and Harry
and placing. So the only disappointment from my perspective was
Belfa Drag Show. Miss Balfer. Yeah, I thought there was
a bit raw missing out there, but nonetheless, all things considered,
a massive achievement. We're speaking of preciously Tom's father during
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the hour as well. Of course he won the event
back in nineteen ninety nine. I'm going to carry on
with it though. The music today is Aaron Neville slashed
the Neville Brothers, Patrina out in the office. This song here,
Bird on a Wire, the song for a movie that
came out in nineteen ninety Cool Bird on a Wire,
featuring Mel Gibson and Goldie Horn. We had the privilege
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of watching it back in the dawn Saint Kevin's on
VHS back in the day.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin Farm Teff from and seftext.
The proof is in the progeny teff rom dot co
dot insad.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
This afternoon they're talking Shellers with breezy nor easterlies and
a high of seven. We're on seven degrees at the
moment actually, so it's about bang on Tuesday party cloudy
with breezy easterly's one and seven. Wednesday showers a light
nor easterlies one and seven again, Thursday must be frosty,
sunshine with calm, variable winds minus three and seven. And
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Friday same thing, sunshine of variable winds minus two and six,
so temperatures are hand northern south and five point five,
Rivertons seven point eight, tiar Now six, Winton five point
five and woodlands at seven. Andy Denner starts us off
this afternoon farming up in the Fiordland basin of the
Sergeant Dam farming ground up, Eric Royd talking politics. THEATACKI
(02:39):
seat is taking a turn of interest with Michael Laws
putting his head in the rings. So Eric thinks this
is going to be one to watch for various reasons.
Ben Dooley's on the program Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer
out of Windon talking wolding pines this afternoon. Richestly like
I say, FMG young Farmer of the Year winner at
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nineteen ninety one, but today is talking about his sometime
like I said, on this success and Richard, his wife
Trudy and co. Just from a periodic perspective, you can
imagine they're just pretty proud of the situation and why not.
And Morgan Green of Venice fits talking horses, horsehouse. So
this will be interesting anyway, we'll crank on with it.
(03:19):
Andy Dennis gets us underway. This is a muster until
two o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Seven after one you.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Think, Andy Dennis farms at Manapuri and joins us in
the Sagan Dan Farming round Up every Monday afternoon. Here
on the muster, we catch up with various farmers from
different parts of the Southern region, and of course it's
all thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock Foods here in the
main street of gore Kaka. Good afternoon ground conditions at Manapuri.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Oh we yeah, yeah, we had seventy five meals for
the weekend, which was what was forecast. So it's nice
when they're right, I suppose. But now we're well and
truly in winter mode and went out a really good jones,
so we're wondering when it was going to show up,
and a whole lot better to get it now than
it's halfway through September.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Isn't that seventy five meals over a couple of days,
there's still a good values.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, no snow, no snow, just yeah north sort of
norwast run and it's sort of swung around to the south.
It's forecast and it got cold, but yeah, no snow
on the ground, so that's great. I wouldn't see the anyway.
Being as wet as it is now, so that's good.
We uh I tipped seventy meals Sunday morning and when yeah,
we actually play. We played rugby or the boys played
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rugby Saint Peter's on Saturday morning, so we're expecting to
get a wet ass, so if you're going to gore.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
But it was lovely and gored.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It was sort of petered out about lumpson, so but
it was. Yeah, it was poor and down at home
when we left, and it was when we got home,
so end all night. So yeah, no, it's yeah, just
good old sepline, doesn't it. It's to come at some stage.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So the snailer only turned up usterday your last night.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Well it's on the top of the hill, so it
might be halfway down the bush line. But yeah, it
looks like it's sort of gone up the east more
harder than what it's coming here, which is which is
pretty typical when we're getting always rained like that, the
suddenly sort of struggles to make its way in as far.
So that's fine.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, So that's pretty much just a typical winter grind
where skinning's not far away if you haven't done it
already and just keeping the feed going.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, I was getting the mixed age and on Friday
and then skating the hinds go through the deer on
Wednesday and then sort of well and truly just ticking
around doing your daybreaks and stuff. So no, if anybody thinks,
sort of where it was above ground and sort of
getting through the feed, so that's fine. It crops and
overly flesh, so they triggered a bit, triggered doors in.
(05:55):
But we'll just we'll just keep ticking away there and
figure that when it comes along.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, scanning results above Parth, No.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
They're sort of pretty average. Actually was unexpected with like
the u's were a really good nick. So yeah, last
year was dry and they were back and we're better
than that. But I was expecting a lot better where
I thought the US were at. So got sure what's
going on there, but that is that's just it goes sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, you can't put the down to anything in particularly
like mineral deficiency or anything like.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Nothing could be Yeah, I would have to probably when
we kill some drives, have a lock and see if
they're lacking on something, but that's generally feed or something,
isn't it. But I was rated with them, and I
was happy with them feed in front of them, So
just not too sure. Yeah, just for two that's probably
letting us down again. So who knows? Could of could
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of not bounced back from Lemon as a hogit as
well as what I liked, could be something like that,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, interesting you mentioned that regarding the hogit lambing.
Do you think perhaps that comes into the equation when
they and the rams out.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, I think I think it has an impact. You've
got to really feed well through that summer post waning,
and that that here can be quite hard if we're
going dry, just to make sure all those todos have
come up. There's generally a tail then, And I noticed
it again, a two tooth gown.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
To a four tooth. When those four tooths join the.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Mixed age, they seem to be a lot of blue
teg singles going out the side gate and that's a
four tooth this year. So whether we need to keep
them separate from the mixed age for mating, I'm not sure.
It's something that we probably need to lock into a
bit more seriously.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, In general, up in the basin though, was it
ground conditions are just pretty much what your experience at Manapori,
would you say?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah, I think everyone's pretty pretty happy with her main
in June went you know, we managed to push a
lot of grass in front of us on the brake
fences were out, So no, I think everyone's in a
pretty good spot.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And here.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
We'll winter, we'll just well, it'll be what it will
be the rest of it, it's for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So what's your all of thumb with the dry straight
off the farm and on the track.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, they can go yep, just freeze up
crop for something else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah. A lot of people say there's empty mails, what
use are they and same old story. I mean, the
money for them just seems to get better. I think
the you dry you market may have eased a little
bit at the sales around the province, but nonetheless it's
still pretty good and there's no reason for the bottom
of it to drop out either.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Touch what Yeah, well, like sulfur and farm schedule on
saiday morning lane with napteen sens and madnet weh napteen sens,
everything stayed the same, so they're obviously seeing the lift
on it. So that's great, real good. Yeah, And deesels
come back. So no, things are things are looking more
and more positive all that every day.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So that's the fantastic.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The diesel situation is a positive one. I mean not
that many months ago, and there was a lot of
uncertainty and it was it was the COVID Times in
twenty twenty six. The addition that we're faced with regarding
the traffic lights system regarding fuel, I think the government's
going to review that system sooner than later, and probably
rightly so. But all of a sudden we're hearing of
(09:11):
a lot more stability. I suppose no news is good news.
When you don't hear anything around the diesel situation or
the fuel situation in general.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well, I think every yeah, there's going to be it's
it's there's probably enough sitting there ready to go now
they've opened it. But I can imagine it's all the
infrastructure that's been bombed and all that. There'll be the
tricky bit for the next sort of couple of years
until that's rebuilt. But it's come down in price. That's
all you can worry about at this end. Yeah, which
is great. And then yeah that talking fertilizers all gone
(09:44):
up again in the spring. I hope it's not too
dramatic because that could hurt, but yeah, it is what
it is. Yeah, we're a high cost structure these days,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, and supply chains like you say, KHK they be.
They're affected by anything and everything. The All Blacks and
argual performance under Dave Rennie twenty twenty six. They got
the win over France by a couple of points. I
thought this was a really entertaining game for first stop encounter.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Oh, it's fantastic. The French played bloody well, like, yeah,
they were physical and heaven and crack and hemna digg
and yeah it was good for us, like just to
just it wasn't It wasn't an easy game, and it
was a good challenge and it was great to see
a lot of those impact players. That's one thing I
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remember is when those all those reserves came on, you
could see.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
They made an impact.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
So that was really good to get them with the
fresh blood out the air and yeah, get a few knocks.
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So yeah, there's certainly a good vibe.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It might have been just a stadium, but they were
they were all going to smile on their face, but no,
the rugby was fantastical weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Actually it was.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
It was great one. Yeah, a few upsets Scotland.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
And that, so yeah it's good.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It's going to be. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the
sort of nations tall here.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The spring Box rolling England like only the spring Box can.
So they're the ones we're going to have to watch. Hey,
good on your keker, stay warm this afternoon. We'll catch
up again in due course.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, I think Andy and everyone he's a good reason
the wonder and yeah you can look forward a lemming
ha ha ha.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Eddie did us there with that little kkerkekel from Kecker
WHI should call that? Of course The Southern Farming ground Up,
brought to you by Sageandan Stock Foods, Darrel and the team.
Here on the main street of Gore. Eric ROI is
up next talking politics.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I don't mean.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Look at this face. Welcome back to the muster. Eric
Roid joins us to talk politics on a Monday, and
we catch him as he's out mustering cattle. It is
Rockxburgh Block. Eric, good afternoon. It sounds like it's just
a little bit nippy.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well we've had warmer days, but it is July and
it is Rocksburgh and the east or eastern part of
Otaga has had a bit of a whack and we
got probably a little bit more than the tail end
of that up here.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Is it reasonably dry up around central Otago at the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The TV Valley is the driest it's been for decades.
And so we yeah, fifty years or so, and that
what we're doing now. We've got a bit of extravailage
at Tiana. We just put the breeding cow through the
right yards and taking out the light of end of
them and they go back to Tiana now and we'll
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bring them back with some balls when it's the appropriate time.
So it was fortunate that we've had a great automate
piano and it's all going to work for us.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Good news story of the weekend, well, there's been a
few of them, but Tom Slay winning the FMG Young
Farmer of the Year the fourteenth from the Ottaga Southern
region and following on from the success of his father
Rich and his uncle Simon Hopcroft.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, no, it's a good story. And then we had
a brother and sister as well, and the cat Well
and they went from Southam. But then we had the
ketto twins they wanted as well, So a few families
seemed to be quite good at this. But I think
this is the first father son that's come through on
the young Farmer of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well, it just reflects on the young farmers down here
in the South as well. It just seems to be
going from strength to strength.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well. Yeah, and the organization is as well, which is
kind of cool because they got into a fairly parlor
state there a few years ago and Federated farmers were
sort of took them, went to take them over, and
then they got their own identity back and they really
really grown. They grown the whole organization again. And that's
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pretty encouraging because what we need is she'll be well
and we as young farmers who can stand up and
articulate the cans of their industry and going the roles
of leadership and young farmers is one of the important
planks that actually does that. So I'm pretty encouraged by
all of that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Okay, Eric, why don't we making these political polls at
the moment, because a lot of people who love politics
are talking election fatigue and were still months out from
the general election.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well that's true, and look I The first thing is,
I'm not sure how acgnurant the polls are because about
half the people don't actually have the white pages of
the telephone directory now, so I don't know how they
actually gather up people, and so that's a bit of
(14:41):
a mystery. The other thing that there's a considerable concern
for me, is that a number of people, a disproportionate
number of people, are saying that Tibby is better at
managing the economy than what National is, and I'm not
sure how they can forgive and forget the billions of
dollars or wasted under COVID, I mean, is a real mystery.
(15:03):
But having given it some thought, I've come to the
conclusion that if you live in a state house or
rented accommodation, you have no appreciation or understanding of what
death is. And so if you don't know what death is,
and when the government hands out money by either borrowing
it or printing it, you don't mind because you don't
understand all of that, and your pleasure is the cost
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of living. You know, Kip, he's going to give us
some more money, and it doesn't matter whether he can
explain where he's getting it. From it sunds great and
they just don't understand the consequences for them, their kids
and their grandkids. That might have been a bit preachy,
but that's how I feel anyway. In the cold day
of o Cargo.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
From the from the cold weather essential to Targo to
the beehive where it's been windy and arguably the Greens
you're talking a lot of win too with the tax
policy and didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, yeah, this is the pit that really kind of
irritates me, or even because most of my life, as
I've looked at different parties organizing, the argument is about
who gets the biggest piece of the pie. And what
we need to do is grow the pie. And any
text policy that doesn't grow the pie is actually creating
problems down the list. And that's why it's quite encouraging
(16:18):
to see Todd mcay and Chris Luckson saying we need
better trading partners, We need to do better and this
is the way we can grow the pie. We're pretty
much at peak numbers for stop, so we can run
aheak of a lot more stop without an environmental consequence.
But what we can do is lift the performance and
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lift the value by going to the better markets around
the world, they're going to pay the best possible price
for the best produced product.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Now, national coming out with these promises regarding prioritizing seven
trade deals are free elected? Are you blieve? Should this
be on the table now?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, but these things take time, and you know, the
Indian deal was just about a world record for getting
something over the line. So you've got to start and
you've got to work, and you've got to just take
away the fear of what this all means to some people.
And then there's internal politics. There's a whole other thing's
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got to go on, and so these trade deals have
got to be beneficial for both sides and you've got
to work through all of that. But look, they've identified
seven countries that have some potential and we've got to say, look,
this is encouraging. It's better than saying we're going to
text the wealthy and have a land tax and do
whatever else we're doing, which is shrinking the pie. This
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is actually growing the pies. We can all have a
biggest life.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Everybody looks a bit of pie, aren't they now. The
Indian Prime Minister having a fleeting visit later on this week,
but it's not a public holiday, so I don't know
if there's actually been too much achieved there or is
this a case of a guy who's in charge of
an economy of at one point four billion people being
in New Zealand. We just can't underestimate it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, Look, this is significantly important. Forty odd years since
we've had a primer of English David Longe would have
been the last one and he formed a bit of
a friendship with the then Prime Minister and we haven't
had anybody since. So I've got to say, I think
this is positive and it's good and the growing middle
class in India and the trade deal, we've just got
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to keep making that work better and better for us
and get clearer understanding of the expectations of both countries
and retain our sovereignty. That's why when we do trade
deals we don't give away our sovereignty and so you know,
but we need to be talking to each other and
understanding what that means.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The way techie seat is turning out to be quite
a pivotal one for more ways than one. Michael Law
is throwing his hat into the ring for New Zealand
First Damian O'Connor has put in his name in there.
Everybody knows and of course Miles Anders and the incumbent
for National. This is interesting by New Zealand for us.
Is Winston perhaps looking at personality politics to degree.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't think there's any doubt about that, and I
think in a way there is an expectation still in
the country because we've had to send the return and
John Key and Chris Hipkins, who were pretty media savvy
and they were more personalities, and that's probably why Chris Luckson,
who's more of a manager and hasn't had that sort
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of persona that has you know, the net the populace,
hasn't warmed to in the same way because he's different.
He's more of a let's get this done kind of
person than telling you how I'm going to do it
sort of person, and that to some people hasn't gone
down quite as well. So I think Winston knows that
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Dick maybe dig Shane Jones and himself the personalities, and
so he's gone for other personalities as well, Like's two
Nash and Kane Randall and Michael Law. He's lined up
some people to say hey, we're the ones that know
what we're doing and we can tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
How would you describe Michael Laws in the political scenes.
He's an interesting character going by his background from the
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I was a whip when he was in powerment
between ninety three and ninety six, and I'm not going
to comment on that. That might say enough.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Okay, Eric will leave it there. He got plenty to
do this afternoon on the high out there around Roxborogh.
Always appreciate your time on the muster.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Thank you, good one, Eric Roy and arresting and regarding
New Zealand first and that seed of attach he's going
to be hotly contested as well.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You listening to the muster Up next Richard Slee. This
is the muster on Hakanui. Richard Slee has Tom Sley
was crowned FMG Young Farmer of the Year on Saturday
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evening and this is a hell of a family connection.
Richard actually won the title back in nineteen ninety nine.
And if you'd like to take it a step further,
Simon Hotcroft, who had on the program last week, is
Tom's uncle so and he won in two thousand and four.
So the connection just gets stronger Richard, Good afternoon, and firstly, congratulations,
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you guys must be tough to hell.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Thanks. Ay, no, we are shut. Chuff to her is
exactly that word. And proud parents, but we've got some
pretty pretty proud family memberses, some pretty proud grandparents.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Want to think of it, well, absolutely, I mean unprecedented
as a word that can be overhyped, but to this occasion,
I think it describes it pretty well.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Yeah, it's good. I mean they have an angle, don't they,
whether it's a brother, sister or an uncle or so
the old father's son. One had to hurt one day
and it happened to us, So it's pretty cool. So
we'll put that one on the mantelpiece.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did you have a name? Clean? Did he was amother
shot on Saturday?
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Light?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Strategy wise, what were you thinking?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Yeah, there was a good good on the way up
to reading himself spoken and we said, we're just not
sure where Tom's going to land, and he'd be in
the top seven, we thought, but he's a bit of
a joke. But now just watching him during the day,
he was pretty He kept his call pretty good, which
is hard to do, and we thought, if he gets
the middle of the road. That'd be awesome. And then
when the points went up on the well, so it
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wasn't the points on the night, it was they put
the seven names up and what place you are placed at,
and he was placed after more or less ninety percent
of the points of the competition, things like the speech,
et cetera. He was placed third, and then you just
had the quiz after that. So we thought, well, Jinger,
is he's going to have to he always got to
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do now I was trying and go for it at
that position.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Was that the tactic again this year? The arecha just
to get there and just take the bull by the
horns and the quiz?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
It was a little bit o nime. We just did
talk before that afternoon with dougle Sowrimon and where we
we strategy meeting, and we said, you know, he's sitting
the pen on where he lands and when we landed third, well,
and you don't know the points, he just really had
to probably We just said you're gonna have to put
the hammer down no matter what. And the only other
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thing would be is the other competitive So if there
were first six or seventh, it just if they were
going for it, well, that's probably to his advantage. But
so he had he's a slight strategy there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, and it paid off, I mean, earning big numbers
in that quiz round to take him up to where
he did. So everything just aligned.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
He did. He burst into a couple there and he
got a couple of wrong in a row and that's
what sort of and then he backed off as you do,
because she's when the press is on the simple things.
He get hard and then he come back at.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It, which was good.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
So we know we're pretty pretty pleased proud from doing that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Richard. The comparison to when you won back in nineteen
ninety nine to the present twenty seven years later, what
were the biggest differences that you could see.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
I think the biggest difference would be probably more community.
They have quite a big emphasis on your community footprint,
and so you've got to be involved, and you know,
you can't just come and could turkey off the street
and jump in this competition, and they want to see
that you're actually putting a bit back into your community
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and young farmers. So that's quite a big which is great, really.
I think that's that's real strong point and probably a
little bit harder on the we they've got these farm
modules amongst the sort of practicals, so we really didn't
have that either, but we've probably had sixty to seventy percent.
What's there now? Some of the same old questions come up,
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but it's definitely probably got a little bit more technical
and a little bit I don't know if i'd like
to be having a crack at it now.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
When you well likes of the red flags. Was it
the same back when you were participating.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
There was no red flags back then.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
They just give you a nudge.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I wondered that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Probably a good thing.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
But those red flags really really throw you around. So
I think when they get one, I think they've got
to delay for thirty seconds, so they've just got to
take a breather and look around them and probably make
use of that thirty seconds. So that's not all bad.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And it just brings into a wider context young farmers.
I suppose Richard, you talk before about not being Joe
Bloggs walking it off the street and entering the competition.
You've got to have a bit of a community focus
about you. I think it just reflects young farmers in
the South to a tea, especially with the awards they
picked up on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Correct, Yeah it. Tiger Selven has been a very strong
province over over the history, so there's a lot of
clubs so they do do generally genders tend to shine up,
but there's certainly a few other clubs around the country
that tak away some prizes too, which was great to see.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
So how long do you give them in the media
rounds before you start cracking the whip and getting him
back on the case of the handley, getting him back
into the shed or whatever, get him back.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Of the shed. Yeah, they'll be interested to see one't
this week will be pretty intense, and I think it's
like most farmers. They're pretty keen to put their gun
brits on and roll their sleeves up and just get
back out with their animals. And you calm down, Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Get on, you're Richard, thanks for your time this afternoon,
yourself trued and everybody be rightly proud of what time's achieved. Unprecedented,
I'll say it once more, because you won back in
nineteen ninety nine. Your son's followed in twenty twenty six,
so two chapters of the family doing really well. Thanks
for your time, this afternoon and enjoy the golden bars
because it's well deserved. Thanks Andy Richard Slee, father of
(26:50):
Tom Slee. If him your Young Farmer of the Year
twenty twenty six. How good does that sound? Ben Dooley's
up next. This is the Muster, the.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Muster on the farm with Southland District Council wicking together
for a Beta Southland, We're away.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Down to Windo in this afternoon on the muster. Ben Dooley,
sheep beef and YouTube farmer joins us. Good afternoon, dells.
It's a little bit wetter than what it was forty
eight hours ago.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, good?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Are you sure as a bit thirty mils two nights ago.
I haven't checked the rain and this morning, but Neitherre's
bend to me another teen or twelve and a guess,
but it is that time of year, isn't it. We
was supposed to get a bit of rain now just
made it.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
A little bit sloppy on top of the brakes.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah, just But to be fair, yesterday morning I came
out and I thought everything was going to be just
you know, not as your disaster or on four day
breaks and had a couple of couple of mobs that
were just just one day in and you sort of
think it's going to be wasted. But there's the point
where the rain washed the mud off the swede, so
it was quite good. But yeah, just at the same time,
we're scanning on Wednesday, so just getting one more off
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swedes now it's the last one to come off, and yeah,
they've got a day on grass and then a day
and the arts full scanning. So yeah, kind of good timing.
It can dry up and then fingers crossed what we
be dry when they go back on.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I suppose that's the issue when you're going for an
extent to break, say the four days, is that you
do get a weather event and you're just not going
to have the utilization that you want.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. It's one I've had a
discussion with with a lot of people over the years.
Quite often guys on one day breaks in that situation
will go back in the afternoon and give them another shift,
and so that that means you're wasting. You know, you're
running a fifty percent wastage on the four day break system.
At worst, we would be fifty percent. Quite often in
bad weather will be shifting the master three days instead
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of four, so you're losing one day out of four,
whereas with the one day break system we find in
much bad whether you're you're losing a day every day.
So we find actually on the four day breaks that
you do have less wastage, but there are the odd
time where you do lose three days in one go
and it is a little bit annoying, but at all fairness,
if it's me, I've probably got run off onto a
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grass paddock. Just for the heavy yields we we do
struggle with just an animal welfare thing with the sheep
remaining on crop. You know, if you're going to get
fifty sixty eighty one hundred mills in a day sort
of thing, we'll pull them off the day before, or if
you're going to get heavy snow, pull them off just
as it starts or something and just let them have
a grass paddock. And yeah, they use a bit more
feed that way, a bit more grass, but as long
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as they're not fenced in a tight break somewhere, it
doesn't wreck the peddocks.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So yeah, have you got a more of the plovers
in the background.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Ah, there's plovers bloody everywhere here. I hate the bloody things.
It's good to see the oyster catchers are hanging around
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But wait, when did you see your first oyster catcher?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Probably a week two days ago.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's an old wive style, depending on what you want
to believe, but I saw black and blue. You'd always
see oyster catchers before the fifth of July.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, I never pay any attention to when they turn
up in the grass paddocks. What I do pay attention to,
quite heavily is when they turn up crop paddicks and
I'm trying to work them. I wind up with big
missuses everywhere. I won't I won't for the plovers, but
for the oyster catchers, I definitely leave, leave the nests untouched,
and then just have to go back afterwards and try
and do something with that. So, yeah, there are cool
words to have around. I wish they wouldn't nest the
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crop patticks, but they are quite cool critters to see.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Absolutely they are wilding pines has been the talk lately.
A bit of government money has been allocated towards it.
Ben is this going to do much?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Hey, look it's a great start, and I've got to
be fear here. I wasn't aware, but I had been
told the previous government actually did throw a bit of
money out of too. It wasn't possibly quite as well directed,
but funding was there. So fingers crossed. Was a bit
of cross party consensus here that it needs to carry on.
But yes, it's a great start, it's an awesome start,
but it is a start. So hopefully most of that
(30:45):
money makes it to activities on the ground and getting
rid of them. Yeah, no, great thing to see happening.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
One of the great analogies in life is talking about
an elephant. You don't need a one go it's a
bite by bite proposition. Wilding pines certainly comes into the equation.
There's the elephant quite literally in the room.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Yeah, one hundred percent. If we don't get on top
of these things now, you know, thirty forty years ago
was the best time to start, but that's been gone now,
so we'll forget about that. As it says right now,
we've just got to get stuck in. Otherwise, a lot
of air backcountry, high country, hinder land, whatever you want
to call it, that's going to turn into a wild
pine plantation and it's not something that we want it's
(31:24):
a bit of a shame to hear some of the
not feedback the response or gifts to the governments. You
know that they're trying to open up the high country
to let some grazing happen again, and the process they've
gone through to do that has met some pretty fierce
scrutiny from some people that I don't know whether they've
got an ulterior motive don't want to sheep back on
the high country or whatever, but they've certainly gone a
(31:44):
long way to misconstruing what was supposed to happen. Yeah,
it's just disappointing to see.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It makes a lot of sense, so to get the
grazing down a lot of these properties. I mean, you
look at the bigger picture as well as carbon farming
comes into the equation, a lot of these higher up
blocks they're just going to be fire risks. I mean,
there's just one thing off the bat, but there's a
pleasora of things regarding high country that came that you've
got to think about.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Yeah, one hundred percent, hang on, I'm just going to
seem to dog out. I've just got a mob of
sheep have done something they shouldn't have done. Still right.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It was still wrong and keep going.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You know what's the go right, They're just gone over
a fence. Thankfully they've gone over it and not throw it,
but just a real trying to get them around the
end of it to go out of gate and they
don't want to go through the bloody gateway. But it
looks like they're just able to work it out.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So it's all right, are you normally this composed and
the ship go over the fence?
Speaker 6 (32:34):
I'd say no, no, no, no, definitely not. I can't
respond like that on e though.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Can I?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well you can, it's just going to be frowned upon.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
It's not a major this time, so I they'll be.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Right as you were.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
No, they're the high hundred situation like that. There's no
doubt the grazing does not destroy the world and pines.
We're not saying it is the absolute answer and it
will get rid of them, but it certainly goes a
long way to knock them, especially the weathers. You know,
they love going out there and just having a nibble
or something green, and they will just strip them back
and definitely slow the progress to process down, and that
(33:08):
just goes a long way to making that government money
go further, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But it's just the.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Argument with a lot of these little parcels of land
that are around. We're not talking about the you know,
the the land that was potentially going to be sold.
It's not the thirty forty fifty thousand heat there blocks.
It's the thirty forty fifty heat there blocks that are
farmer's leased for decades and has to renew that every
five years, three years, ten years, whatever, And it's just
not practical to carry on going the way we have been.
(33:35):
You know, those farmers don't have any security in that
land to be able to actually do anything worth to
improve it. They've just got to run it and hope
like how that they get the lease back next time. So,
like I say, a lot of those groups, it was
quite disappointing to see their reaction to that policy, and
fingers crossed it hasn't actually damaged it to the point
(33:55):
where they can't get it across the line, I.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Say, you put a video out on social media. We
actually stopped in your holiday to put out wild to
pull out wilding binds.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Yeah, we got stuck and they closed the road from
Tekipa all the way to a Marima on black because
of black ice, and hey, good on for doing it,
Like you know, if the road's too dangerous to drives,
to dangerous to drive, we didn't really want to go
the other way. I've sort of felt that the Bricks
Pass road probably wasn't gonna be much safer, so we
just wound up waiting for it to open. And yeah,
there's just a bank on the side of the road.
(34:24):
Wouldn't have been might have been five minutes square meters,
I suppose. And I pulled out fifty seedlings just on there,
all wild and pine seedlings. So that goes to show
just how big the problem is. It's amazing when you
have for a drive up through there at the moment,
just hell, because I haven't spent a lot of time
there in the last five years, just how big the
(34:45):
problem's gotten. There's just little great seedlings everywhere. So yeah,
three or four years from now, if we don't do
something big now, it's gonna be a massive problem that
I don't think we'll be able to be.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
How is the rural social influencing going from your perspective, I've.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Been really slow on it recently, just hearing the house
going on between feeds and everything else, sort of trying
to work out what account and can't say these days.
But not that not that anyone's telling me I can't
say anything. It's just that when you're representing other bodies
you sort of want to be careful. But you know,
just the last sort of a couple of months, I
suppose it seems to be have been a little bit
more of an uptick, and I suppose I know, the
(35:21):
last sort of three years it's been quite slow and
you know, just across the board quite hard. But yeah,
just all of a sudden, it feels that there might
be a mood change. Whether there's some sense of normality
coming back or something, I don't know, but yeah, it's
it's a happening thing.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
When you say there seems to be a change in
normality or a sense and a change of the mood,
what do you mean.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Well, if I put a post up on something today,
you know, I get people commenting, I get people asking
questions or get feedback. You know, people are sharing it
and whatever. And it's just nice to see that again
because for a long time here you feel that you're
doing a whole lot of work for very little game
or for very little. You know, there was nothing coming
out the other end of it. People weren't interacting with
those posts. And it wasn't just me noticing that either.
(36:04):
There was a lot of people. If you look at
what was happening with their pages, things just weren't happening.
But now say, it seems whether it's just the time
of year or what, I don't know, but it certainly
seems to be on the improved. So things crossed.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Get on your deals. You can go and do some
inappropriate words now that you normally would, and go and
fix that venta chieve and you.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Have found the right gay old hopefully just got to
straighten it up and defense will be right.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Ben Dealey sheep beef and YouTube farmer and having to
fix up a three reel and very well contained. You
being well done. You're listening to the Muster up next
to Morgan Green for many Fits.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
The Muster's animal health segment with ny Vets adding value
through practical advice and service, no gimmicks, no potions, total
vet care.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Morgan Green of innes Fits joins US based in Riversdale
and Northern Southland. Good afternoon, Morgan, Good afternoon, Andy, how
are you going very well. The time in idiots fits
has been busy with the tight sailing season. Oh but Dan,
so is this a chance we have a little bit
of a brather before calving?
Speaker 9 (37:14):
Well, for some I guess we do. I've actually been
pretty steady with equin dentals and things like that, so
I do a lot of ecoin dentistry and kind of
because we are so busy over that May and early
part of June period, you know, basically don't do any
horses at that time at all, so it then ends
(37:37):
up just being.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Pushed off a wee bit.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
But yes, look, things certainly have quiet and down compared
to where they where they were.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
You know.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
We've got a few of our spring seminars coming up,
which is quite good.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
We actually had.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
One last last week and which was on CAF rearing,
and then this sorry next week, we have our mass
tis one out. The guest speaker for that is Steve Cranfield,
who's a real expert on mass titis.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
So that's going to be on.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Wednesday the fifteenth, so that'll be a really good one
to attend. Steve's a really really good speaker and incredibly knowledgeable.
He's probably the foremost veterinary expert on maths Titus in
New Zealand, I would think from point of view of
practical side of it rather than necessarily a research side.
(38:27):
So we've got that one coming up. Actually later this
week we've got our tactical Trias and Treatment which is
on Thursday. And then towards the end of the month,
I think it's the twenty third, which is also a Thursday,
but that'll be at night and that's our spring First
Aid one and that's at the Battle for Rugby Club,
so that's always quite a good event as well.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Firstly, the industry on horses, are you like pulling teeth out?
Are you just grinding them to make the normal? What
goes on there? It's intriguing.
Speaker 9 (38:56):
Oh look, it's a bit of both. Horses teeth are
what we term hypsodont so effectively they are always erupting
and the bottom jaw is slightly offset to the top jaw,
so it's a little bit narrower. So what ends up
happening is they develop sharp points along the outside of
(39:18):
the top teeth and along the tongue side of the
bottom teeth, and basically, if they're being ridden and you've
got these sharp points, it can be quite uncomfortable. So
then you can get horses that are a little bit
more difficult to ride. So from the point of view
of very very basic stuff, that's where you can be at.
But then also it's around trying to get the mouth
into good balance. So horses sort of chew in a
(39:39):
sort of in an oval circular to an oval pattern,
So if they have sharp bits in there, or the
mouth is a little bit out of alignment, they end
up just chomping up and down on their food rather
than chewing properly. And so there's a whole load of
things that you know, we check, you know, like us,
they can get cavities. Those cavities over time can spread
(40:03):
and basically get worse, so they can get too through
infections to teeth themselves can actually split in half based
on you know, food packing in there because obviously they're
chewing huge amounts during the day. So yeah, lots of
lots of different things happen, but basically it's about trying
to have the horse comfortable chewing in as good as
(40:25):
fashion as possible, which you know, there's feed conversion efficiency
benefits from that point of view, and as I said
while they're being ridden, that there's no no painful areas
for them, and so therefore they're much more malleable to ride.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
All of a sudden, I just thought I must to read.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
They could be a little bit like that, only that's
the problem.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
They can't speak to you like this, so yeah, yeah,
so the so the problem is like the horses, like
a lot of our you know, pasture based species, they're
actually prey animals, so they don't necessarily show a lot
of pain until it's too late, or it's not easy
(41:11):
to tell that they are in pain. So obviously when
being written, it's just that they people might turn it
that they're misbehaving, but actually it can be that there's
normally it's because there's pain of some sort somewhere, so
it's trying to figure that out. As I said, they're
very very good at hiding the fact that there is pain,
and sometimes, you know, when we do see animals, they
(41:33):
can be very very far gone from the.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
Point of view of the dentistry that is there.
Speaker 9 (41:37):
So yes, in that situation, it may well be that
extractions are the only thing that that we're able to
do at that stage. But there's you know, there's lots
of really really complicated stuff going on from the point
of view of feelings and things like that. Nowadays, you know,
the sort of I guess the knowledge and the expertise
(41:58):
around it has increased massively, in particular over the last
twenty years.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Do horses have a high pain threshold?
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Oh yeah, absolutely they do.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
Yeah, yeah, And there is all all of the all
of the prey animals do. It's from the point of
view of showing pain.
Speaker 7 (42:16):
You know, if if you're part of the.
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Herd and you're out on the on the prairies and
it's the mountain lion that's coming to get you, well
it's going to pick the one that's you know, that's
hanging off, So they don't want to show that.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
In basic evolutionary terms.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well, there you go, there's a horse chap for a Monday,
shell out at the time and make a lunch. Hope
you're all well, so what else is going on at
the space at the moment, Morgie. A lot of shaps
getting going on. Results will gradually start getting in the air.
But we went to grazing season going pretty good.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
Yeah, look at it.
Speaker 9 (42:47):
It is generally obviously the heck of a lot of
rain over the weekend, you know, which sort of changes
the environment a weave out, and you know, hopefully most
people have pretty good plans in place around dealing with that.
I know there can be quite a bit of social
media commentary around, you know, the conditions that animals are in.
(43:07):
So it's just making sure that people are following best
practice and doing the best they can. Obviously, when you
get you know, twenty or thirty mils around, very very
difficult to avoid mod but you know, it's having those
plans in place that you can minimize some of the
negative impacts as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Morgie the tame in his face, How do people get
in touch all of.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
The easiest way?
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Just give us a call to zero two five six
three six at Riversdale or two four nine seven zero
three nine as Tiana.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Good on you, Morgy, enjoy the rest of the afternoon.
And that horse Chack was fascinating.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
Glad I could be of some assistance for you, and.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakkanui. My
name is Andy Muller. We're here insuil two o'clock this afternoon.
Of course, the show is brought to you by Peters Genetics.
Welcome along after a massive weekend for the South. Tom
Slee FMG Young Farmer of the Year winner for twenty
twenty six, which is just a tip of the iceberry
(00:33):
for the South as well. I'll just give you a
bit of an understanding of what the self won of
a grand Final Season fifty eight. Tom Slee obviously winner
of season fifty eight a Tiger South and Best Region
for the second year in a row. Beyler Edgkin was
named Emerging Member of the Year, Clinton Young Farmers won
the Best District Final and Robert Wilson won the National
(00:54):
Trap shooting, with Shane Senders place second. And the teen's
out there doing the fencing as well, Megan and Harry
and placing. So the only disappointment from my perspective was
Belfa Drag Show. Miss Balfer. Yeah, I thought there was
a bit raw missing out there, but nonetheless, all things considered,
a massive achievement. We're speaking of preciously Tom's father during
(01:17):
the hour as well. Of course he won the event
back in nineteen ninety nine. I'm going to carry on
with it though. The music today is Aaron Neville slashed
the Neville Brothers, Patrina out in the office. This song here,
Bird on a Wire, the song for a movie that
came out in nineteen ninety Cool Bird on a Wire,
featuring Mel Gibson and Goldie Horn. We had the privilege
(01:38):
of watching it back in the dawn Saint Kevin's on
VHS back in the day.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin Farm Teff from and seftext.
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Speaker 3 (01:55):
This afternoon they're talking Shellers with breezy nor easterlies and
a high of seven. We're on seven degrees at the
moment actually, so it's about bang on Tuesday party cloudy
with breezy easterly's one and seven. Wednesday showers a light
nor easterlies one and seven again, Thursday must be frosty,
sunshine with calm, variable winds minus three and seven. And
(02:15):
Friday same thing, sunshine of variable winds minus two and six,
so temperatures are hand northern south and five point five,
Rivertons seven point eight, tiar Now six, Winton five point
five and woodlands at seven. Andy Denner starts us off
this afternoon farming up in the Fiordland basin of the
Sergeant Dam farming ground up, Eric Royd talking politics. THEATACKI
(02:39):
seat is taking a turn of interest with Michael Laws
putting his head in the rings. So Eric thinks this
is going to be one to watch for various reasons.
Ben Dooley's on the program Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer
out of Windon talking wolding pines this afternoon. Richestly like
I say, FMG young Farmer of the Year winner at
(02:59):
nineteen ninety one, but today is talking about his sometime
like I said, on this success and Richard, his wife
Trudy and co. Just from a periodic perspective, you can
imagine they're just pretty proud of the situation and why not.
And Morgan Green of Venice fits talking horses, horsehouse. So
this will be interesting anyway, we'll crank on with it.
(03:19):
Andy Dennis gets us underway. This is a muster until
two o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Seven after one you.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Think, Andy Dennis farms at Manapuri and joins us in
the Sagan Dan Farming round Up every Monday afternoon. Here
on the muster, we catch up with various farmers from
different parts of the Southern region, and of course it's
all thanks to Sergeant Dan Stock Foods here in the
main street of gore Kaka. Good afternoon ground conditions at Manapuri.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Oh we yeah, yeah, we had seventy five meals for
the weekend, which was what was forecast. So it's nice
when they're right, I suppose. But now we're well and
truly in winter mode and went out a really good jones,
so we're wondering when it was going to show up,
and a whole lot better to get it now than
it's halfway through September.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Isn't that seventy five meals over a couple of days,
there's still a good values.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, no snow, no snow, just yeah north sort of
norwast run and it's sort of swung around to the south.
It's forecast and it got cold, but yeah, no snow
on the ground, so that's great. I wouldn't see the anyway.
Being as wet as it is now, so that's good.
We uh I tipped seventy meals Sunday morning and when yeah,
we actually play. We played rugby or the boys played
(04:45):
rugby Saint Peter's on Saturday morning, so we're expecting to
get a wet ass, so if you're going to gore.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
But it was lovely and gored.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It was sort of petered out about lumpson, so but
it was. Yeah, it was poor and down at home
when we left, and it was when we got home,
so end all night. So yeah, no, it's yeah, just
good old sepline, doesn't it. It's to come at some stage.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So the snailer only turned up usterday your last night.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Well it's on the top of the hill, so it
might be halfway down the bush line. But yeah, it
looks like it's sort of gone up the east more
harder than what it's coming here, which is which is
pretty typical when we're getting always rained like that, the
suddenly sort of struggles to make its way in as far.
So that's fine.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, So that's pretty much just a typical winter grind
where skinning's not far away if you haven't done it
already and just keeping the feed going.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, I was getting the mixed age and on Friday
and then skating the hinds go through the deer on
Wednesday and then sort of well and truly just ticking
around doing your daybreaks and stuff. So no, if anybody thinks,
sort of where it was above ground and sort of
getting through the feed, so that's fine. It crops and
overly flesh, so they triggered a bit, triggered doors in.
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But we'll just we'll just keep ticking away there and
figure that when it comes along.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, scanning results above Parth, No.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
They're sort of pretty average. Actually was unexpected with like
the u's were a really good nick. So yeah, last
year was dry and they were back and we're better
than that. But I was expecting a lot better where
I thought the US were at. So got sure what's
going on there, but that is that's just it goes sometimes.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, you can't put the down to anything in particularly
like mineral deficiency or anything like.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Nothing could be Yeah, I would have to probably when
we kill some drives, have a lock and see if
they're lacking on something, but that's generally feed or something,
isn't it. But I was rated with them, and I
was happy with them feed in front of them, So
just not too sure. Yeah, just for two that's probably
letting us down again. So who knows? Could of could
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of not bounced back from Lemon as a hogit as
well as what I liked, could be something like that,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, interesting you mentioned that regarding the hogit lambing.
Do you think perhaps that comes into the equation when
they and the rams out.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, I think I think it has an impact. You've
got to really feed well through that summer post waning,
and that that here can be quite hard if we're
going dry, just to make sure all those todos have
come up. There's generally a tail then, And I noticed
it again, a two tooth gown.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
To a four tooth. When those four tooths join the.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Mixed age, they seem to be a lot of blue
teg singles going out the side gate and that's a
four tooth this year. So whether we need to keep
them separate from the mixed age for mating, I'm not sure.
It's something that we probably need to lock into a
bit more seriously.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, In general, up in the basin though, was it
ground conditions are just pretty much what your experience at Manapori,
would you say?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah, I think everyone's pretty pretty happy with her main
in June went you know, we managed to push a
lot of grass in front of us on the brake
fences were out, So no, I think everyone's in a
pretty good spot.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And here.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
We'll winter, we'll just well, it'll be what it will
be the rest of it, it's for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So what's your all of thumb with the dry straight
off the farm and on the track.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, they can go yep, just freeze up
crop for something else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah. A lot of people say there's empty mails, what
use are they and same old story. I mean, the
money for them just seems to get better. I think
the you dry you market may have eased a little
bit at the sales around the province, but nonetheless it's
still pretty good and there's no reason for the bottom
of it to drop out either.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Touch what Yeah, well, like sulfur and farm schedule on
saiday morning lane with napteen sens and madnet weh napteen sens,
everything stayed the same, so they're obviously seeing the lift
on it. So that's great, real good. Yeah, And deesels
come back. So no, things are things are looking more
and more positive all that every day.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So that's the fantastic.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
The diesel situation is a positive one. I mean not
that many months ago, and there was a lot of
uncertainty and it was it was the COVID Times in
twenty twenty six. The addition that we're faced with regarding
the traffic lights system regarding fuel, I think the government's
going to review that system sooner than later, and probably
rightly so. But all of a sudden we're hearing of
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a lot more stability. I suppose no news is good news.
When you don't hear anything around the diesel situation or
the fuel situation in general.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Well, I think every yeah, there's going to be it's
it's there's probably enough sitting there ready to go now
they've opened it. But I can imagine it's all the
infrastructure that's been bombed and all that. There'll be the
tricky bit for the next sort of couple of years
until that's rebuilt. But it's come down in price. That's
all you can worry about at this end. Yeah, which
is great. And then yeah that talking fertilizers all gone
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up again in the spring. I hope it's not too
dramatic because that could hurt, but yeah, it is what
it is. Yeah, we're a high cost structure these days,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, and supply chains like you say, KHK they be.
They're affected by anything and everything. The All Blacks and
argual performance under Dave Rennie twenty twenty six. They got
the win over France by a couple of points. I
thought this was a really entertaining game for first stop encounter.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Oh, it's fantastic. The French played bloody well, like, yeah,
they were physical and heaven and crack and hemna digg
and yeah it was good for us, like just to
just it wasn't It wasn't an easy game, and it
was a good challenge and it was great to see
a lot of those impact players. That's one thing I
(10:31):
remember is when those all those reserves came on, you
could see.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
They made an impact.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
So that was really good to get them with the
fresh blood out the air and yeah, get a few knocks.
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So yeah, there's certainly a good vibe.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
It might have been just a stadium, but they were
they were all going to smile on their face, but no,
the rugby was fantastical weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Actually it was.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
It was great one. Yeah, a few upsets Scotland.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
And that, so yeah it's good.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It's going to be. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the
sort of nations tall here.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The spring Box rolling England like only the spring Box can.
So they're the ones we're going to have to watch. Hey,
good on your keker, stay warm this afternoon. We'll catch
up again in due course.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, I think Andy and everyone he's a good reason
the wonder and yeah you can look forward a lemming
ha ha ha.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Eddie did us there with that little kkerkekel from Kecker
WHI should call that? Of course The Southern Farming ground Up,
brought to you by Sageandan Stock Foods, Darrel and the team.
Here on the main street of Gore. Eric ROI is
up next talking politics.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I don't mean.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Look at this face. Welcome back to the muster. Eric
Roid joins us to talk politics on a Monday, and
we catch him as he's out mustering cattle. It is
Rockxburgh Block. Eric, good afternoon. It sounds like it's just
a little bit nippy.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well we've had warmer days, but it is July and
it is Rocksburgh and the east or eastern part of
Otaga has had a bit of a whack and we
got probably a little bit more than the tail end
of that up here.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Is it reasonably dry up around central Otago at the moment.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The TV Valley is the driest it's been for decades.
And so we yeah, fifty years or so, and that
what we're doing now. We've got a bit of extravailage
at Tiana. We just put the breeding cow through the
right yards and taking out the light of end of
them and they go back to Tiana now and we'll
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bring them back with some balls when it's the appropriate time.
So it was fortunate that we've had a great automate
piano and it's all going to work for us.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Good news story of the weekend, well, there's been a
few of them, but Tom Slay winning the FMG Young
Farmer of the Year the fourteenth from the Ottaga Southern
region and following on from the success of his father
Rich and his uncle Simon Hopcroft.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, no, it's a good story. And then we had
a brother and sister as well, and the cat Well
and they went from Southam. But then we had the
ketto twins they wanted as well, So a few families
seemed to be quite good at this. But I think
this is the first father son that's come through on
the young Farmer of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well, it just reflects on the young farmers down here
in the South as well. It just seems to be
going from strength to strength.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well. Yeah, and the organization is as well, which is
kind of cool because they got into a fairly parlor
state there a few years ago and Federated farmers were
sort of took them, went to take them over, and
then they got their own identity back and they really
really grown. They grown the whole organization again. And that's
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pretty encouraging because what we need is she'll be well
and we as young farmers who can stand up and
articulate the cans of their industry and going the roles
of leadership and young farmers is one of the important
planks that actually does that. So I'm pretty encouraged by
all of that.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Okay, Eric, why don't we making these political polls at
the moment, because a lot of people who love politics
are talking election fatigue and were still months out from
the general election.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well that's true, and look I The first thing is,
I'm not sure how acgnurant the polls are because about
half the people don't actually have the white pages of
the telephone directory now, so I don't know how they
actually gather up people, and so that's a bit of
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a mystery. The other thing that there's a considerable concern
for me, is that a number of people, a disproportionate
number of people, are saying that Tibby is better at
managing the economy than what National is, and I'm not
sure how they can forgive and forget the billions of
dollars or wasted under COVID, I mean, is a real mystery.
(15:03):
But having given it some thought, I've come to the
conclusion that if you live in a state house or
rented accommodation, you have no appreciation or understanding of what
death is. And so if you don't know what death is,
and when the government hands out money by either borrowing
it or printing it, you don't mind because you don't
understand all of that, and your pleasure is the cost
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of living. You know, Kip, he's going to give us
some more money, and it doesn't matter whether he can
explain where he's getting it. From it sunds great and
they just don't understand the consequences for them, their kids
and their grandkids. That might have been a bit preachy,
but that's how I feel anyway. In the cold day
of o Cargo.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
From the from the cold weather essential to Targo to
the beehive where it's been windy and arguably the Greens
you're talking a lot of win too with the tax
policy and didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, yeah, this is the pit that really kind of
irritates me, or even because most of my life, as
I've looked at different parties organizing, the argument is about
who gets the biggest piece of the pie. And what
we need to do is grow the pie. And any
text policy that doesn't grow the pie is actually creating
problems down the list. And that's why it's quite encouraging
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to see Todd mcay and Chris Luckson saying we need
better trading partners, We need to do better and this
is the way we can grow the pie. We're pretty
much at peak numbers for stop, so we can run
aheak of a lot more stop without an environmental consequence.
But what we can do is lift the performance and
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lift the value by going to the better markets around
the world, they're going to pay the best possible price
for the best produced product.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Now, national coming out with these promises regarding prioritizing seven
trade deals are free elected? Are you blieve? Should this
be on the table now?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, but these things take time, and you know, the
Indian deal was just about a world record for getting
something over the line. So you've got to start and
you've got to work, and you've got to just take
away the fear of what this all means to some people.
And then there's internal politics. There's a whole other thing's
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got to go on, and so these trade deals have
got to be beneficial for both sides and you've got
to work through all of that. But look, they've identified
seven countries that have some potential and we've got to say, look,
this is encouraging. It's better than saying we're going to
text the wealthy and have a land tax and do
whatever else we're doing, which is shrinking the pie. This
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is actually growing the pies. We can all have a
biggest life.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Everybody looks a bit of pie, aren't they now. The
Indian Prime Minister having a fleeting visit later on this week,
but it's not a public holiday, so I don't know
if there's actually been too much achieved there or is
this a case of a guy who's in charge of
an economy of at one point four billion people being
in New Zealand. We just can't underestimate it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, Look, this is significantly important. Forty odd years since
we've had a primer of English David Longe would have
been the last one and he formed a bit of
a friendship with the then Prime Minister and we haven't
had anybody since. So I've got to say, I think
this is positive and it's good and the growing middle
class in India and the trade deal, we've just got
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to keep making that work better and better for us
and get clearer understanding of the expectations of both countries
and retain our sovereignty. That's why when we do trade
deals we don't give away our sovereignty and so you know,
but we need to be talking to each other and
understanding what that means.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The way techie seat is turning out to be quite
a pivotal one for more ways than one. Michael Law
is throwing his hat into the ring for New Zealand
First Damian O'Connor has put in his name in there.
Everybody knows and of course Miles Anders and the incumbent
for National. This is interesting by New Zealand for us.
Is Winston perhaps looking at personality politics to degree.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I don't think there's any doubt about that, and I
think in a way there is an expectation still in
the country because we've had to send the return and
John Key and Chris Hipkins, who were pretty media savvy
and they were more personalities, and that's probably why Chris Luckson,
who's more of a manager and hasn't had that sort
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of persona that has you know, the net the populace,
hasn't warmed to in the same way because he's different.
He's more of a let's get this done kind of
person than telling you how I'm going to do it
sort of person, and that to some people hasn't gone
down quite as well. So I think Winston knows that
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Dick maybe dig Shane Jones and himself the personalities, and
so he's gone for other personalities as well, Like's two
Nash and Kane Randall and Michael Law. He's lined up
some people to say hey, we're the ones that know
what we're doing and we can tell you about it.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
How would you describe Michael Laws in the political scenes.
He's an interesting character going by his background from the
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I was a whip when he was in powerment
between ninety three and ninety six, and I'm not going
to comment on that. That might say enough.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Okay, Eric will leave it there. He got plenty to
do this afternoon on the high out there around Roxborogh.
Always appreciate your time on the muster.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Thank you, good one, Eric Roy and arresting and regarding
New Zealand first and that seed of attach he's going
to be hotly contested as well.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
You listening to the muster Up next Richard Slee. This
is the muster on Hakanui. Richard Slee has Tom Sley
was crowned FMG Young Farmer of the Year on Saturday
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evening and this is a hell of a family connection.
Richard actually won the title back in nineteen ninety nine.
And if you'd like to take it a step further,
Simon Hotcroft, who had on the program last week, is
Tom's uncle so and he won in two thousand and four.
So the connection just gets stronger Richard, Good afternoon, and firstly, congratulations,
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you guys must be tough to hell.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Thanks. Ay, no, we are shut. Chuff to her is
exactly that word. And proud parents, but we've got some
pretty pretty proud family memberses, some pretty proud grandparents.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Want to think of it, well, absolutely, I mean unprecedented
as a word that can be overhyped, but to this occasion,
I think it describes it pretty well.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Yeah, it's good. I mean they have an angle, don't they,
whether it's a brother, sister or an uncle or so
the old father's son. One had to hurt one day
and it happened to us, So it's pretty cool. So
we'll put that one on the mantelpiece.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did you have a name? Clean? Did he was amother
shot on Saturday?
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Light?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Strategy wise, what were you thinking?
Speaker 8 (22:13):
Yeah, there was a good good on the way up
to reading himself spoken and we said, we're just not
sure where Tom's going to land, and he'd be in
the top seven, we thought, but he's a bit of
a joke. But now just watching him during the day,
he was pretty He kept his call pretty good, which
is hard to do, and we thought, if he gets
the middle of the road. That'd be awesome. And then
when the points went up on the well, so it
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wasn't the points on the night, it was they put
the seven names up and what place you are placed at,
and he was placed after more or less ninety percent
of the points of the competition, things like the speech,
et cetera. He was placed third, and then you just
had the quiz after that. So we thought, well, Jinger,
is he's going to have to he always got to
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do now I was trying and go for it at
that position.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Was that the tactic again this year? The arecha just
to get there and just take the bull by the
horns and the quiz?
Speaker 8 (23:04):
It was a little bit o nime. We just did
talk before that afternoon with dougle Sowrimon and where we
we strategy meeting, and we said, you know, he's sitting
the pen on where he lands and when we landed third, well,
and you don't know the points, he just really had
to probably We just said you're gonna have to put
the hammer down no matter what. And the only other
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thing would be is the other competitive So if there
were first six or seventh, it just if they were
going for it, well, that's probably to his advantage. But
so he had he's a slight strategy there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, and it paid off, I mean, earning big numbers
in that quiz round to take him up to where
he did. So everything just aligned.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
He did. He burst into a couple there and he
got a couple of wrong in a row and that's
what sort of and then he backed off as you do,
because she's when the press is on the simple things.
He get hard and then he come back at.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
It, which was good.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
So we know we're pretty pretty pleased proud from doing that.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Richard. The comparison to when you won back in nineteen
ninety nine to the present twenty seven years later, what
were the biggest differences that you could see.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
I think the biggest difference would be probably more community.
They have quite a big emphasis on your community footprint,
and so you've got to be involved, and you know,
you can't just come and could turkey off the street
and jump in this competition, and they want to see
that you're actually putting a bit back into your community
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and young farmers. So that's quite a big which is great, really.
I think that's that's real strong point and probably a
little bit harder on the we they've got these farm
modules amongst the sort of practicals, so we really didn't
have that either, but we've probably had sixty to seventy percent.
What's there now? Some of the same old questions come up,
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but it's definitely probably got a little bit more technical
and a little bit I don't know if i'd like
to be having a crack at it now.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
When you well likes of the red flags. Was it
the same back when you were participating.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
There was no red flags back then.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
They just give you a nudge.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I wondered that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Probably a good thing.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
But those red flags really really throw you around. So
I think when they get one, I think they've got
to delay for thirty seconds, so they've just got to
take a breather and look around them and probably make
use of that thirty seconds. So that's not all bad.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And it just brings into a wider context young farmers.
I suppose Richard, you talk before about not being Joe
Bloggs walking it off the street and entering the competition.
You've got to have a bit of a community focus
about you. I think it just reflects young farmers in
the South to a tea, especially with the awards they
picked up on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (25:44):
Correct, Yeah it. Tiger Selven has been a very strong
province over over the history, so there's a lot of
clubs so they do do generally genders tend to shine up,
but there's certainly a few other clubs around the country
that tak away some prizes too, which was great to see.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
So how long do you give them in the media
rounds before you start cracking the whip and getting him
back on the case of the handley, getting him back
into the shed or whatever, get him back.
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Of the shed. Yeah, they'll be interested to see one't
this week will be pretty intense, and I think it's
like most farmers. They're pretty keen to put their gun
brits on and roll their sleeves up and just get
back out with their animals. And you calm down, Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Get on, you're Richard, thanks for your time this afternoon,
yourself trued and everybody be rightly proud of what time's achieved. Unprecedented,
I'll say it once more, because you won back in
nineteen ninety nine. Your son's followed in twenty twenty six,
so two chapters of the family doing really well. Thanks
for your time, this afternoon and enjoy the golden bars
because it's well deserved. Thanks Andy Richard Slee, father of
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Tom Slee. If him your Young Farmer of the Year
twenty twenty six. How good does that sound? Ben Dooley's
up next. This is the Muster, the.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Muster on the farm with Southland District Council wicking together
for a Beta Southland, We're away.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Down to Windo in this afternoon on the muster. Ben Dooley,
sheep beef and YouTube farmer joins us. Good afternoon, dells.
It's a little bit wetter than what it was forty
eight hours ago.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, good?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Are you sure as a bit thirty mils two nights ago.
I haven't checked the rain and this morning, but Neitherre's
bend to me another teen or twelve and a guess,
but it is that time of year, isn't it. We
was supposed to get a bit of rain now just
made it.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
A little bit sloppy on top of the brakes.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Yeah, just But to be fair, yesterday morning I came
out and I thought everything was going to be just
you know, not as your disaster or on four day
breaks and had a couple of couple of mobs that
were just just one day in and you sort of
think it's going to be wasted. But there's the point
where the rain washed the mud off the swede, so
it was quite good. But yeah, just at the same time,
we're scanning on Wednesday, so just getting one more off
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swedes now it's the last one to come off, and yeah,
they've got a day on grass and then a day
and the arts full scanning. So yeah, kind of good timing.
It can dry up and then fingers crossed what we
be dry when they go back on.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I suppose that's the issue when you're going for an
extent to break, say the four days, is that you
do get a weather event and you're just not going
to have the utilization that you want.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. It's one I've had a
discussion with with a lot of people over the years.
Quite often guys on one day breaks in that situation
will go back in the afternoon and give them another shift,
and so that that means you're wasting. You know, you're
running a fifty percent wastage on the four day break system.
At worst, we would be fifty percent. Quite often in
bad weather will be shifting the master three days instead
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of four, so you're losing one day out of four,
whereas with the one day break system we find in
much bad whether you're you're losing a day every day.
So we find actually on the four day breaks that
you do have less wastage, but there are the odd
time where you do lose three days in one go
and it is a little bit annoying, but at all fairness,
if it's me, I've probably got run off onto a
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grass paddock. Just for the heavy yields we we do
struggle with just an animal welfare thing with the sheep
remaining on crop. You know, if you're going to get
fifty sixty eighty one hundred mills in a day sort
of thing, we'll pull them off the day before, or if
you're going to get heavy snow, pull them off just
as it starts or something and just let them have
a grass paddock. And yeah, they use a bit more
feed that way, a bit more grass, but as long
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as they're not fenced in a tight break somewhere, it
doesn't wreck the peddocks.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So yeah, have you got a more of the plovers
in the background.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Ah, there's plovers bloody everywhere here. I hate the bloody things.
It's good to see the oyster catchers are hanging around
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But wait, when did you see your first oyster catcher?
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Probably a week two days ago.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's an old wive style, depending on what you want
to believe, but I saw black and blue. You'd always
see oyster catchers before the fifth of July.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, I never pay any attention to when they turn
up in the grass paddocks. What I do pay attention to,
quite heavily is when they turn up crop paddicks and
I'm trying to work them. I wind up with big
missuses everywhere. I won't I won't for the plovers, but
for the oyster catchers, I definitely leave, leave the nests untouched,
and then just have to go back afterwards and try
and do something with that. So, yeah, there are cool
words to have around. I wish they wouldn't nest the
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crop patticks, but they are quite cool critters to see.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Absolutely they are wilding pines has been the talk lately.
A bit of government money has been allocated towards it.
Ben is this going to do much?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Hey, look it's a great start, and I've got to
be fear here. I wasn't aware, but I had been
told the previous government actually did throw a bit of
money out of too. It wasn't possibly quite as well directed,
but funding was there. So fingers crossed. Was a bit
of cross party consensus here that it needs to carry on.
But yes, it's a great start, it's an awesome start,
but it is a start. So hopefully most of that
(30:45):
money makes it to activities on the ground and getting
rid of them. Yeah, no, great thing to see happening.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
One of the great analogies in life is talking about
an elephant. You don't need a one go it's a
bite by bite proposition. Wilding pines certainly comes into the equation.
There's the elephant quite literally in the room.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Yeah, one hundred percent. If we don't get on top
of these things now, you know, thirty forty years ago
was the best time to start, but that's been gone now,
so we'll forget about that. As it says right now,
we've just got to get stuck in. Otherwise, a lot
of air backcountry, high country, hinder land, whatever you want
to call it, that's going to turn into a wild
pine plantation and it's not something that we want it's
(31:24):
a bit of a shame to hear some of the
not feedback the response or gifts to the governments. You
know that they're trying to open up the high country
to let some grazing happen again, and the process they've
gone through to do that has met some pretty fierce
scrutiny from some people that I don't know whether they've
got an ulterior motive don't want to sheep back on
the high country or whatever, but they've certainly gone a
(31:44):
long way to misconstruing what was supposed to happen. Yeah,
it's just disappointing to see.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It makes a lot of sense, so to get the
grazing down a lot of these properties. I mean, you
look at the bigger picture as well as carbon farming
comes into the equation, a lot of these higher up
blocks they're just going to be fire risks. I mean,
there's just one thing off the bat, but there's a
pleasora of things regarding high country that came that you've
got to think about.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Yeah, one hundred percent, hang on, I'm just going to
seem to dog out. I've just got a mob of
sheep have done something they shouldn't have done. Still right.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
It was still wrong and keep going.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
You know what's the go right, They're just gone over
a fence. Thankfully they've gone over it and not throw it,
but just a real trying to get them around the
end of it to go out of gate and they
don't want to go through the bloody gateway. But it
looks like they're just able to work it out.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
So it's all right, are you normally this composed and
the ship go over the fence?
Speaker 6 (32:34):
I'd say no, no, no, no, definitely not. I can't
respond like that on e though.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Can I?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well you can, it's just going to be frowned upon.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
It's not a major this time, so I they'll be.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Right as you were.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
No, they're the high hundred situation like that. There's no
doubt the grazing does not destroy the world and pines.
We're not saying it is the absolute answer and it
will get rid of them, but it certainly goes a
long way to knock them, especially the weathers. You know,
they love going out there and just having a nibble
or something green, and they will just strip them back
and definitely slow the progress to process down, and that
(33:08):
just goes a long way to making that government money
go further, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But it's just the.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Argument with a lot of these little parcels of land
that are around. We're not talking about the you know,
the the land that was potentially going to be sold.
It's not the thirty forty fifty thousand heat there blocks.
It's the thirty forty fifty heat there blocks that are
farmer's leased for decades and has to renew that every
five years, three years, ten years, whatever, And it's just
not practical to carry on going the way we have been.
(33:35):
You know, those farmers don't have any security in that
land to be able to actually do anything worth to
improve it. They've just got to run it and hope
like how that they get the lease back next time. So,
like I say, a lot of those groups, it was
quite disappointing to see their reaction to that policy, and
fingers crossed it hasn't actually damaged it to the point
(33:55):
where they can't get it across the line, I.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Say, you put a video out on social media. We
actually stopped in your holiday to put out wild to
pull out wilding binds.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Yeah, we got stuck and they closed the road from
Tekipa all the way to a Marima on black because
of black ice, and hey, good on for doing it,
Like you know, if the road's too dangerous to drives,
to dangerous to drive, we didn't really want to go
the other way. I've sort of felt that the Bricks
Pass road probably wasn't gonna be much safer, so we
just wound up waiting for it to open. And yeah,
there's just a bank on the side of the road.
(34:24):
Wouldn't have been might have been five minutes square meters,
I suppose. And I pulled out fifty seedlings just on there,
all wild and pine seedlings. So that goes to show
just how big the problem is. It's amazing when you
have for a drive up through there at the moment,
just hell, because I haven't spent a lot of time
there in the last five years, just how big the
(34:45):
problem's gotten. There's just little great seedlings everywhere. So yeah,
three or four years from now, if we don't do
something big now, it's gonna be a massive problem that
I don't think we'll be able to be.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
How is the rural social influencing going from your perspective, I've.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Been really slow on it recently, just hearing the house
going on between feeds and everything else, sort of trying
to work out what account and can't say these days.
But not that not that anyone's telling me I can't
say anything. It's just that when you're representing other bodies
you sort of want to be careful. But you know,
just the last sort of a couple of months, I
suppose it seems to be have been a little bit
more of an uptick, and I suppose I know, the
(35:21):
last sort of three years it's been quite slow and
you know, just across the board quite hard. But yeah,
just all of a sudden, it feels that there might
be a mood change. Whether there's some sense of normality
coming back or something, I don't know, but yeah, it's
it's a happening thing.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
When you say there seems to be a change in
normality or a sense and a change of the mood,
what do you mean.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Well, if I put a post up on something today,
you know, I get people commenting, I get people asking
questions or get feedback. You know, people are sharing it
and whatever. And it's just nice to see that again
because for a long time here you feel that you're
doing a whole lot of work for very little game
or for very little. You know, there was nothing coming
out the other end of it. People weren't interacting with
those posts. And it wasn't just me noticing that either.
(36:04):
There was a lot of people. If you look at
what was happening with their pages, things just weren't happening.
But now say, it seems whether it's just the time
of year or what, I don't know, but it certainly
seems to be on the improved. So things crossed.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Get on your deals. You can go and do some
inappropriate words now that you normally would, and go and
fix that venta chieve and you.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
Have found the right gay old hopefully just got to
straighten it up and defense will be right.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Ben Dealey sheep beef and YouTube farmer and having to
fix up a three reel and very well contained. You
being well done. You're listening to the Muster up next
to Morgan Green for many Fits.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
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Speaker 3 (36:56):
Morgan Green of innes Fits joins US based in Riversdale
and Northern Southland. Good afternoon, Morgan, Good afternoon, Andy, how
are you going very well. The time in idiots fits
has been busy with the tight sailing season. Oh but Dan,
so is this a chance we have a little bit
of a brather before calving?
Speaker 9 (37:14):
Well, for some I guess we do. I've actually been
pretty steady with equin dentals and things like that, so
I do a lot of ecoin dentistry and kind of
because we are so busy over that May and early
part of June period, you know, basically don't do any
horses at that time at all, so it then ends
(37:37):
up just being.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Pushed off a wee bit.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
But yes, look, things certainly have quiet and down compared
to where they where they were.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
You know.
Speaker 9 (37:44):
We've got a few of our spring seminars coming up,
which is quite good.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
We actually had.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
One last last week and which was on CAF rearing,
and then this sorry next week, we have our mass
tis one out. The guest speaker for that is Steve Cranfield,
who's a real expert on mass titis.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
So that's going to be on.
Speaker 9 (38:06):
Wednesday the fifteenth, so that'll be a really good one
to attend. Steve's a really really good speaker and incredibly knowledgeable.
He's probably the foremost veterinary expert on maths Titus in
New Zealand, I would think from point of view of
practical side of it rather than necessarily a research side.
(38:27):
So we've got that one coming up. Actually later this
week we've got our tactical Trias and Treatment which is
on Thursday. And then towards the end of the month,
I think it's the twenty third, which is also a Thursday,
but that'll be at night and that's our spring First
Aid one and that's at the Battle for Rugby Club,
so that's always quite a good event as well.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Firstly, the industry on horses, are you like pulling teeth out?
Are you just grinding them to make the normal? What
goes on there? It's intriguing.
Speaker 9 (38:56):
Oh look, it's a bit of both. Horses teeth are
what we term hypsodont so effectively they are always erupting
and the bottom jaw is slightly offset to the top jaw,
so it's a little bit narrower. So what ends up
happening is they develop sharp points along the outside of
(39:18):
the top teeth and along the tongue side of the
bottom teeth, and basically, if they're being ridden and you've
got these sharp points, it can be quite uncomfortable. So
then you can get horses that are a little bit
more difficult to ride. So from the point of view
of very very basic stuff, that's where you can be at.
But then also it's around trying to get the mouth
into good balance. So horses sort of chew in a
(39:39):
sort of in an oval circular to an oval pattern,
So if they have sharp bits in there, or the
mouth is a little bit out of alignment, they end
up just chomping up and down on their food rather
than chewing properly. And so there's a whole load of
things that you know, we check, you know, like us,
they can get cavities. Those cavities over time can spread
(40:03):
and basically get worse, so they can get too through
infections to teeth themselves can actually split in half based
on you know, food packing in there because obviously they're
chewing huge amounts during the day. So yeah, lots of
lots of different things happen, but basically it's about trying
to have the horse comfortable chewing in as good as
(40:25):
fashion as possible, which you know, there's feed conversion efficiency
benefits from that point of view, and as I said
while they're being ridden, that there's no no painful areas
for them, and so therefore they're much more malleable to ride.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
All of a sudden, I just thought I must to read.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
They could be a little bit like that, only that's
the problem.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
They can't speak to you like this, so yeah, yeah,
so the so the problem is like the horses, like
a lot of our you know, pasture based species, they're
actually prey animals, so they don't necessarily show a lot
of pain until it's too late, or it's not easy
(41:11):
to tell that they are in pain. So obviously when
being written, it's just that they people might turn it
that they're misbehaving, but actually it can be that there's
normally it's because there's pain of some sort somewhere, so
it's trying to figure that out. As I said, they're
very very good at hiding the fact that there is pain,
and sometimes, you know, when we do see animals, they
(41:33):
can be very very far gone from the.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
Point of view of the dentistry that is there.
Speaker 9 (41:37):
So yes, in that situation, it may well be that
extractions are the only thing that that we're able to
do at that stage. But there's you know, there's lots
of really really complicated stuff going on from the point
of view of feelings and things like that. Nowadays, you know,
the sort of I guess the knowledge and the expertise
(41:58):
around it has increased massively, in particular over the last
twenty years.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Do horses have a high pain threshold?
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Oh yeah, absolutely they do.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
Yeah, yeah, And there is all all of the all
of the prey animals do. It's from the point of
view of showing pain.
Speaker 7 (42:16):
You know, if if you're part of the.
Speaker 9 (42:18):
Herd and you're out on the on the prairies and
it's the mountain lion that's coming to get you, well
it's going to pick the one that's you know, that's
hanging off, So they don't want to show that.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
In basic evolutionary terms.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well, there you go, there's a horse chap for a Monday,
shell out at the time and make a lunch. Hope
you're all well, so what else is going on at
the space at the moment, Morgie. A lot of shaps
getting going on. Results will gradually start getting in the air.
But we went to grazing season going pretty good.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
Yeah, look at it.
Speaker 9 (42:47):
It is generally obviously the heck of a lot of
rain over the weekend, you know, which sort of changes
the environment a weave out, and you know, hopefully most
people have pretty good plans in place around dealing with that.
I know there can be quite a bit of social
media commentary around, you know, the conditions that animals are in.
(43:07):
So it's just making sure that people are following best
practice and doing the best they can. Obviously, when you
get you know, twenty or thirty mils around, very very
difficult to avoid mod but you know, it's having those
plans in place that you can minimize some of the
negative impacts as much as possible.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Morgie the tame in his face, How do people get
in touch all of.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
The easiest way?
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Just give us a call to zero two five six
three six at Riversdale or two four nine seven zero
three nine as Tiana.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Good on you, Morgy, enjoy the rest of the afternoon.
And that horse Chack was fascinating.
Speaker 9 (43:46):
Glad I could be of some assistance for you, and.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
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Speaker 1 (43:56):
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Speaker 3 (44:01):
Why don't anti ters ever get sick because they are
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