July 22, 2026 • 10 mins
Matt Ward talks about Beef and Lamb Scholarships and why he thinks they are worth applying for.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Muster Events Diary, brought to you by Beef and
Lamb New Zealand Click Beef lambendz dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Matt Ward joins us this afternoon on the Muster and
the Beef and Lamb Slut. Now we first got met
on the program when he was the winner of a
scholarship was Beef and Lamb, and that's going to be
the theme of air chat today. Good afternoon, Matt.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
How things Yeah good? And you know everything's everything's tacking
along pretty good. You've got me on twice in two weeks, mate,
So I don't know whether I'm getting sick a listen
to my own voice or your listeners probably definitely asked.
So we'll wrap through this one pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, we keep doing this, we'll have a sponsor for
you shortly. So keep pushing your brain. That's all I
can say.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So, anyway, you're on today talking about the Kellogg's project
and the likes that you're involved with with Beef and
their New Zealand. Go back to the nuts and balts
of it. Why'd you put yourself forward?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So I didn't end up putting myself forward to be fair, endye.
I I've seen I seen when they advertised for it
a couple of years ago, and to be fair, I
sort of looked at it. I was like, shuah, it's
probably something that I wouldn't I wouldn't nominate myself for him.
Not I wasn't really into putting myself out there for
something like that. And at the time we were getting here,
(01:20):
we're getting their farm here, getting a rental appraisal done
on it by Dallas and Michelle Lucas, and then after
that they ended up nominating me for it, which like,
I'm bloody grateful for her. I mean, when they asked
me if they if they could nominate me, I was like, shit,
even that's still not really my not my gem. But yeah,
for what I've managed to get out of it has
(01:42):
been has been massive. So yeah, that's been really good.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well you're just saying like your typical south Under backwards
and coming forwards.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, and it's sort of I don't know. I've
definitely learned, especially through the whole Kellogg process, that like
just putting yourself out there. Even Gene, if you told
me two years ago I would have been talking to
you on the radio, I would have turned you straight
down you start about trying to put yourself out there
and probably being confident, and you probably learned to be
a bit more confident within myself too. Has been one
(02:11):
of the big learnings I've got out of it now.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The interview process after you got nominated. But what actually
went on there? What was it scary from your side
of it, because, like you say, doing public relations, public
speaking and everything, it's not everyone's cap of tea.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah it was. It was nerve wrecking because i'd mind's
view was with clear Turningberry from Beef and Lamb and
Met McCrae, and to have a well clear is pretty good.
But to have a pretty staunched window supporter like Mets.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I was about to say that given this, it's pretty tachy.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I wasn't sure how that was going to go,
but it was actually really good. And then out of
that whole process, I was I was really lucky to
have met Met. It was like a bit of a
mentor for the first year after winning the scholarship. So yeah,
I've got to know him really well. Yeah, put the
window stuff Asie is bloody good fail and he's been
quite handy to have on my side too, So that's
(03:05):
all worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Now you get funding as well. When you get the scholarship, ma'am,
what do you put it towards? How do you decide?
How are you going to allocate?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah? I actually found that quite tricky, to be fair.
I at seven and a half grand, and well, one
it's a lot of money, and two it's a pretty
big honor to have to have money like that to
go towards something, and I really didn't want to screw
it up. And I sort of thought a big thing
for me was if I'm going to go do something,
(03:35):
I'm going to go do something I wouldn't have done
if it was me putting myself out there to do it,
if you like, if you get that. So I sort
of thought about whether I do it, whether I was
going to do a Rabobank one of the Rabobank courses
or look at like a discussion group to get into
or but then I sort of landed on Kellogg's because
(03:55):
I was I never would have done that anyway. So
when I put myself out there and like I had
to apply for Kelloggs and luturally enough scraped in.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So regarding the research on your chosen subject, just go
over the what that was again.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, So part of the calog process was doing like
a six month research project and then we had to
ride a report to finish that off and present the report.
And I chose to do mine on the use of
terminal size and an air sheep farming systems and just
sort of dig into whether they are getting utilized to
(04:34):
their full potential and ended up falling down the rabbit
hole of looking into sort of like breeding their best
use to get good maternal rams and then everything else
going to a terminal and seeing how far you can
push that ratio out. Yeah, I just thought of learning
(04:55):
through that whole process, like there's a lot of people
try to get a heap of say Romney replaced, for example,
and you're only going to pick maybe fifty or sixty
percent of them, Then that good Romney replacement just ends
up going to the works, whereas if she could be
a good terminal side lamb, you're getting that better better
weight gain on her, Yeah, and then that's ends up
(05:15):
going as a better lamb to the work. So through
the whole process worked out around like you can sort
of push it to like a fifty to fifty ratio
and then through done a few gross margins on it
and worked like weaning time. It wasn't too much of
a difference, but it was after weaning that that feed
that we got that extra feed we had growing because
(05:37):
we're getting more lambs away sooner ended up meaning we
were put in i think from memory, like a one
point six kg of carcass weight on on air lambs
by the end of the season with more terminals in
the system then less. So that's sort of where the big,
the big game changer came from it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So the big thing for you, the reward, I suppose,
was putting yourself out there and getting out of your
comfort zone. And it worked.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, it wasn't. And it was like even through the
whole Kellogg process, I remember sitting up at Lincoln in
the first day and had that what's it syndrome called
where you feel like.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You're not not Stockholms and pasta syndrome pasta.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
That's the yeah, yeah, where you feel like you don't
belong there, like we all got. We're all send in
their bios about each of their salves, and they sent
them out the week before we all met, and I
remember reading them like, what these people are well and
above just a little week shoot farm from Moreern Mains
and then going right through the whole process and then
(06:39):
the last day of Kellogg's they got us to re
like reintroduce ourselves and the way everyone had sort of
listed themselves in confidence and there was that feeling like
you actually belong belong there. Yeah, that's probably definitely the
biggest thing I got got out of it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I've just got a question down here from Clear
actually thanks Clear outcomes of being part of the scholarship,
and that goes on to say, obviously your delights to
be part of a Southern South Island Farmer Council because
of the epic Christmas gatherings I'm going by that. Does
Graham Evans do karaoke?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
No, I didn't hear, haven't heard Graham sing yet. But
that's definitely one of the big positives I've got out
of it, is like getting to know that I got
to know the Farmer Council a weave it before well,
during that whole process of doing my Kellogg and then
and then was that October last year I ended up
getting voted on to the Farmer Council and that's been Yes,
(07:37):
it's been good fun. That's sort of and I say
every time like I'm not a hundred essential what I'm
offering to them, but sitting in a room full of
a lot of smart farmers from South and then South
Otago like I'm definitely getting a hell of a lot
out of it. Yeah, and then going away and we
Christmas party. You can't definitely can't complain with that either,
can you.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So what are your words of encouragement for people who
are on the fence about applying.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Well, I just see it's sort of one of those
opportunities like take the just have a red red hot
crack at it, and at the end of the day,
there's nothing to lose from applying, putting yourself out there
and probably a big thing to anyone listening. Like you
can nominate people as well, so that you can have
(08:23):
your farm manager or anyone anyone around if you know
of a good young person who's between the ages twenty one,
and you'd have to look online to see what the
ages are, but the bit of experience and wanting to
put themselves forward, then you can nominate people to really
try to push them into the next step of their
career development as well. I think that's I think that's
(08:46):
the key to all day.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Your details are online. The beef and lambs sit. Just
finally we'll talk a bit about Saturday. You're going to
have your lucky head on. Geez, you look like a
Cavy driver from Brooklyn wearing that thing too.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Busy, trying to keep my feet running water on and
off all the time sessionally after Saturday. Shit, I was
on and off there all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What happens on Saturday? Give us an app give us
a score. Oh I am.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Not going to be it's going to be close. I'm
going to go shuare what am I going to go?
Twenty twenty five to Eden? We're going to go down
there and ruin the parade. But when like Jesus is
going to take every single little ounce of what we've
got to get up over them. There's the reason why
they've well, while they're the best Division one team going
(09:36):
and why they've been the best for a long time,
and they've got a way of winning fine, Like you
just need to look at the history. They've got a
way of winning finals, especially at home. And if it's
going to be a wet track, yeah, we've got We've
got a lot in front of us. But we don't
have anything to lose going down there, which we're we're
quite excited about. We don't have too much pressure or anything.
We've just got to go down and get the job done.
(09:58):
Go a weet bit better than what we've done both
times we have played them this year, and that's going
to be a hell of a game.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You've just got to trust the processes. Better leave it there, Matt,
thanks for your time as always. Good luck on Saturday.
Yeah cool, Thank you, Indy, Matt Ward, The Beef and
lamb Sluck. Click beeflambindyed dot com slash events to get
the e Diary received into your inbox every Friday morning.
Nathan Burden's up next to wrap up.
The Muster Events Diary, brought to you by Beef and
Lamb New Zealand Click Beef lambendz dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Matt Ward joins us this afternoon on the Muster and
the Beef and Lamb Slut. Now we first got met
on the program when he was the winner of a
scholarship was Beef and Lamb, and that's going to be
the theme of air chat today. Good afternoon, Matt.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
How things Yeah good? And you know everything's everything's tacking
along pretty good. You've got me on twice in two weeks, mate,
So I don't know whether I'm getting sick a listen
to my own voice or your listeners probably definitely asked.
So we'll wrap through this one pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, we keep doing this, we'll have a sponsor for
you shortly. So keep pushing your brain. That's all I
can say.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So, anyway, you're on today talking about the Kellogg's project
and the likes that you're involved with with Beef and
their New Zealand. Go back to the nuts and balts
of it. Why'd you put yourself forward?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So I didn't end up putting myself forward to be fair, endye.
I I've seen I seen when they advertised for it
a couple of years ago, and to be fair, I
sort of looked at it. I was like, shuah, it's
probably something that I wouldn't I wouldn't nominate myself for him.
Not I wasn't really into putting myself out there for
something like that. And at the time we were getting here,
(01:20):
we're getting their farm here, getting a rental appraisal done
on it by Dallas and Michelle Lucas, and then after
that they ended up nominating me for it, which like,
I'm bloody grateful for her. I mean, when they asked
me if they if they could nominate me, I was like, shit,
even that's still not really my not my gem. But yeah,
for what I've managed to get out of it has
(01:42):
been has been massive. So yeah, that's been really good.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well you're just saying like your typical south Under backwards
and coming forwards.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, and it's sort of I don't know. I've
definitely learned, especially through the whole Kellogg process, that like
just putting yourself out there. Even Gene, if you told
me two years ago I would have been talking to
you on the radio, I would have turned you straight
down you start about trying to put yourself out there
and probably being confident, and you probably learned to be
a bit more confident within myself too. Has been one
(02:11):
of the big learnings I've got out of it now.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The interview process after you got nominated. But what actually
went on there? What was it scary from your side
of it, because, like you say, doing public relations, public
speaking and everything, it's not everyone's cap of tea.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah it was. It was nerve wrecking because i'd mind's
view was with clear Turningberry from Beef and Lamb and
Met McCrae, and to have a well clear is pretty good.
But to have a pretty staunched window supporter like Mets.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I was about to say that given this, it's pretty tachy.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I wasn't sure how that was going to go,
but it was actually really good. And then out of
that whole process, I was I was really lucky to
have met Met. It was like a bit of a
mentor for the first year after winning the scholarship. So yeah,
I've got to know him really well. Yeah, put the
window stuff Asie is bloody good fail and he's been
quite handy to have on my side too, So that's
(03:05):
all worked out pretty good.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Now you get funding as well. When you get the scholarship, ma'am,
what do you put it towards? How do you decide?
How are you going to allocate?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah? I actually found that quite tricky, to be fair.
I at seven and a half grand, and well, one
it's a lot of money, and two it's a pretty
big honor to have to have money like that to
go towards something, and I really didn't want to screw
it up. And I sort of thought a big thing
for me was if I'm going to go do something,
(03:35):
I'm going to go do something I wouldn't have done
if it was me putting myself out there to do it,
if you like, if you get that. So I sort
of thought about whether I do it, whether I was
going to do a Rabobank one of the Rabobank courses
or look at like a discussion group to get into
or but then I sort of landed on Kellogg's because
(03:55):
I was I never would have done that anyway. So
when I put myself out there and like I had
to apply for Kelloggs and luturally enough scraped in.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So regarding the research on your chosen subject, just go
over the what that was again.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, So part of the calog process was doing like
a six month research project and then we had to
ride a report to finish that off and present the report.
And I chose to do mine on the use of
terminal size and an air sheep farming systems and just
sort of dig into whether they are getting utilized to
(04:34):
their full potential and ended up falling down the rabbit
hole of looking into sort of like breeding their best
use to get good maternal rams and then everything else
going to a terminal and seeing how far you can
push that ratio out. Yeah, I just thought of learning
(04:55):
through that whole process, like there's a lot of people
try to get a heap of say Romney replaced, for example,
and you're only going to pick maybe fifty or sixty
percent of them, Then that good Romney replacement just ends
up going to the works, whereas if she could be
a good terminal side lamb, you're getting that better better
weight gain on her, Yeah, and then that's ends up
(05:15):
going as a better lamb to the work. So through
the whole process worked out around like you can sort
of push it to like a fifty to fifty ratio
and then through done a few gross margins on it
and worked like weaning time. It wasn't too much of
a difference, but it was after weaning that that feed
that we got that extra feed we had growing because
(05:37):
we're getting more lambs away sooner ended up meaning we
were put in i think from memory, like a one
point six kg of carcass weight on on air lambs
by the end of the season with more terminals in
the system then less. So that's sort of where the big,
the big game changer came from it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So the big thing for you, the reward, I suppose,
was putting yourself out there and getting out of your
comfort zone. And it worked.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, it wasn't. And it was like even through the
whole Kellogg process, I remember sitting up at Lincoln in
the first day and had that what's it syndrome called
where you feel like.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You're not not Stockholms and pasta syndrome pasta.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
That's the yeah, yeah, where you feel like you don't
belong there, like we all got. We're all send in
their bios about each of their salves, and they sent
them out the week before we all met, and I
remember reading them like, what these people are well and
above just a little week shoot farm from Moreern Mains
and then going right through the whole process and then
(06:39):
the last day of Kellogg's they got us to re
like reintroduce ourselves and the way everyone had sort of
listed themselves in confidence and there was that feeling like
you actually belong belong there. Yeah, that's probably definitely the
biggest thing I got got out of it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I've just got a question down here from Clear
actually thanks Clear outcomes of being part of the scholarship,
and that goes on to say, obviously your delights to
be part of a Southern South Island Farmer Council because
of the epic Christmas gatherings I'm going by that. Does
Graham Evans do karaoke?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
No, I didn't hear, haven't heard Graham sing yet. But
that's definitely one of the big positives I've got out
of it, is like getting to know that I got
to know the Farmer Council a weave it before well,
during that whole process of doing my Kellogg and then
and then was that October last year I ended up
getting voted on to the Farmer Council and that's been Yes,
(07:37):
it's been good fun. That's sort of and I say
every time like I'm not a hundred essential what I'm
offering to them, but sitting in a room full of
a lot of smart farmers from South and then South
Otago like I'm definitely getting a hell of a lot
out of it. Yeah, and then going away and we
Christmas party. You can't definitely can't complain with that either,
can you.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So what are your words of encouragement for people who
are on the fence about applying.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Well, I just see it's sort of one of those
opportunities like take the just have a red red hot
crack at it, and at the end of the day,
there's nothing to lose from applying, putting yourself out there
and probably a big thing to anyone listening. Like you
can nominate people as well, so that you can have
(08:23):
your farm manager or anyone anyone around if you know
of a good young person who's between the ages twenty one,
and you'd have to look online to see what the
ages are, but the bit of experience and wanting to
put themselves forward, then you can nominate people to really
try to push them into the next step of their
career development as well. I think that's I think that's
(08:46):
the key to all day.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Your details are online. The beef and lambs sit. Just
finally we'll talk a bit about Saturday. You're going to
have your lucky head on. Geez, you look like a
Cavy driver from Brooklyn wearing that thing too.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Busy, trying to keep my feet running water on and
off all the time sessionally after Saturday. Shit, I was
on and off there all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
What happens on Saturday? Give us an app give us
a score. Oh I am.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Not going to be it's going to be close. I'm
going to go shuare what am I going to go?
Twenty twenty five to Eden? We're going to go down
there and ruin the parade. But when like Jesus is
going to take every single little ounce of what we've
got to get up over them. There's the reason why
they've well, while they're the best Division one team going
(09:36):
and why they've been the best for a long time,
and they've got a way of winning fine, Like you
just need to look at the history. They've got a
way of winning finals, especially at home. And if it's
going to be a wet track, yeah, we've got We've
got a lot in front of us. But we don't
have anything to lose going down there, which we're we're
quite excited about. We don't have too much pressure or anything.
We've just got to go down and get the job done.
(09:58):
Go a weet bit better than what we've done both
times we have played them this year, and that's going
to be a hell of a game.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You've just got to trust the processes. Better leave it there, Matt,
thanks for your time as always. Good luck on Saturday.
Yeah cool, Thank you, Indy, Matt Ward, The Beef and
lamb Sluck. Click beeflambindyed dot com slash events to get
the e Diary received into your inbox every Friday morning.
Nathan Burden's up next to wrap up.
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