July 22, 2026 • 48 mins
Andy Muir talks to David Stevens, Dave MacGregor, Geordie Eade, Matt Ward, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good afternoon, Welcome to the muster on Hokkin. He brought
to you by Peterson Neddix. My name's Andy Mieller, hearing
two a two o'clock this afternoon, thanks to your company.
As we see some sunshine over Main Street and the
temperature as well at the moment currently a bami thirteen degrees,
which is getting close to the high we're expecting, although
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the weather is supposed to correct itself over the next
couple of days, but it's a moving feast at the moment,
so Phil don't can tomorrow we'll be on the program,
but anyway, we'll look at the five day forecast very shortly.
Music today, great song this it's called Atomic by Dev
Harry and the group in This is known as Blondie.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Hakanui's five day Forecast with twin farm teffrom and soft text.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
The proof is in the progeny te from dot Co
Johnny's head.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's a banga chun hey this afternoon. For the weather anyway,
Thursday partly cloudy with calm, variable wins and we're going
for a higher fourteen almost there. Friday, a few showers
later on with like north easterlies and haven't wrote down
in temperature, but it's getting nippy. I think it's about
the highest seven looking on the website before Saturday Raymond
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snowshowers like nor Easties minus one and six, but I
think that's moved since I wrote that down of it
earlier as well. Sunday partly cloudy with light NOI easterlyes
minus one and seven and Monday Monday Sunday calm, variable
winds two and nine. So temperature is to hand Clinton
six point one, Northern South and five point five, Riverton
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eight point three, tian Now six point three, Winton six
and Woodland's at seven point one. David Stevens Dear Farming
at Balfa gets us underway this afternoon and you talk
about Venison's schedules for the upcoming season where the starting
point is, and Dave talks about a figure which is
really good for the industry. We talk about the red
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meat sector and the pricing structure of what we're seeing
for these early prices for the season, and it looks
as though Venison's playing ball as well. Dave McGregor, Chair
of South and Fishing Game. It's a conclusion of a
duck shooting season. This weekend so we catch up with
David and see how it's gone from his perspective as well.
Matt Ward, he's on this week in the Beef of
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lambslot talking about the Beef for Lambs Scholarship which Matt
was a recipient of last year, and why he thinks
you need to be involved with it. Jeordy yed at
the river era of the South, which is beautiful Riverton.
We see how things are going on the ranch there
as carving gets close and lambing not too far away
as well, and our residents sporting Gary Nathan Bird in
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the South and Stags g Og. We're still eight days
out from the start of the NPC Stag Day's not
too far away and already South has got an injury crisis,
and as well the Commonwealth Games flying under the radar,
but is in fact getting underway in the next couple
of days. Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burden, so
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he pops by or he told you they didn't. I
actually Tigel David Morrison, the one and only. How I
went from Nathan Burden to David and backing ends the
story for another day. Anyway, we'll crank into it of
David Stevens. David Stevens gets us underway this afternoon on
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the Muster Dear Farmer base at near the dale Is
Farm near Belfa in northern Southland. David, Good, afternoon, We're
not far until the end of July. How's everything being good?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Any? Good?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Afternoon?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Good.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
It's emplain about a winter like this. It's a bit
damp on top, but this morning it was only a
very light for us, so no can can plane at all.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Would you say the seasons have moved a little bit
based on what we've seen over the past ten fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Ah, yes, yeah, no, I mean you look back. I
don't think we get quite the you know, when the
spring was spring. This is an old fellow's perspective. I
suppose spring was spring the way back, and you know,
sort of defined between winter and spring. That was, it
didn't seem to drag through like we do these days.
We end up with pretty sometimes pretty lousy weather in spring.
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But I think it's it's changed, has no doubt about that.
I mean, certainly we don't get the frost and we
don't get the snow and what we used to get.
I mean, you look around in northern south and back
in those early days when I was a young fellow,
and you know, we had skating rinks, outdoor skating rinks
over at wai Kai and up at Garston, and you
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wouldn't get that these days.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
We used to have a few rushes on the farm
and the ice in between was at sake. You could
go on there and you scale all right, Cracker Jackson,
you're a young fellow and have a good skate round.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, so answer your question, Yes it's changed.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yes, So how's everything being over the last month or
so anyway on the farm.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Oh god, we had a wee break over an Aussie
for a bit and then come back and obviously there
was a wee bit of a con temperature between there
and here. But no, it's been good on farm. We've
last week we pretested the maiden heins, the ones that
we put to elk. Yeah, pretty happy with the result,
really considering the maidens and putting them them or young
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elk bulls to them. And we end up with eighty percent,
which wasn't too bad.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I know.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
There was other examples of just talking to the chap
that does the scanning, and there's other examples where they've
really had a bit of a disaster with maidens, so no,
it couldn't complain about.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That at all.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We've been doing a bit of R and M, quite
a bit of fencing, tiding up some of the fences,
renewing them the ones that have been in for probably
forty years, and also block next door we've been start
up as well. So it's not a cheap exercise these
days with the cost of fencing for deer farming. But
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as we comments before, the once do it well and
that's another job in just around tiding up around the place,
getting already going into the spring again. The minds all
they'll stay on. They're on stubble at the moment and
getting badded, so they'll stay there and we normally take
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them right through to early October before we start set
stocking them, so that's where they'll be and the maidens,
the sorry the rising yeelings and then her velvet is
really another couple of weeks away, and really they need
their feed needs lifted, so if you haven't got the grass,
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really you've got to look at supplements really for them.
They start growing, particularly the yieldings, they need to be
pushed along. And yeah, so that's pretty much what's going
on farm at the moment?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Andy, Now, David, about six months ago, even longer, you
talked about just winding it back and just relaxing a bit.
But the pendulum swung all of a sudden. You got
a new sense on life and you're getting busy again.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yes, yeah, you got to do something. When you've got
a few acres, you've got to do something with it,
so cut and carry. There's not a lot of money
in that, so but no, no, it's good. And to
be honest, I mean, when you're dear farming just a
commercial operation, now, labor is not a big thing. I mean,
it's a matter of just keeping them feed and looking
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after them that way, so there's not a lot of
animal health or anything like that to do with it.
So it's really a matter of just feeding them well
and keep moving them on. But no, we might even
purchase a few more irons actually, just to fill that gap.
Were a drys where we might pick a few more up.
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And you're looking at around about from Maiden Hinds in
calf you're looking around about round about eight hundred dollars
at the moment, so we may do that yet too.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
How did those prices ranked say to about five years ago.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Five years ago, probably up there some like the agent
the other day where he was looking at the ones
at home and he said, they're probably in calf now.
We paid seven to fifty for them and before mating,
and they're probably that quality now would be sitting around
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about eleven hundred for those, so they're good. They're good irons.
We actually purchased them from Organs, so you know they've
got growth rate, genetics, but no, probably a bit less
it might have been. You might have been looking at
six or seven hundred dollars back then, so you know
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it's up a bit, mind you, and saying that the
schedule is contracts are out there, you know, twelve dollars
a k plus, so you know that's as high as
it's ever been and it needs to be around about
that to compete against the other sectors. So you know
it could even get higher. But that's sort of early season,
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and we've seen the last year or two where it
hasn't dropped away in the autumn at all, So you're
really looking at possibly may not be that twelve dollars,
but certainly could be around eleven dollars. Lights through to
the autumn.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now, it's interesting you say that Jamie McKay often refers
to having a ten dollar base for your meat, for
your will and for your milk price as such, and
you've talked in the past about that ten dollar figure
as well. So is this just a realization of where
the industry's at this price?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
I think so just demand really, but insane that. I
mean costs have gone up too. I mean really, when
you look at deer farming, once you set up, you
know your labor costs and also lit all health, those
sorts of things, and not huge costs on farm. So
really we're probably lucky that way. But no, it needs
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to be up there. I mean it's just to compete,
and other costs have gone up. I mean it's not
just on farm costs. I mean you've got insurances and
rates and you know, all of those things. They just
keep skyrocketing. So you know, there's a lot of other
expenses that doesn't matter what you're in, you've got and
you know to keep up with that, you really need
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to get up around that twelve dollars to actually cover
those costs. So it's long at last. And yeah, as
long as we don't end up with some unusual tariff
tiff coming into the States.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Will be find is that some of the concerns are
the terriffs of the States.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I suppose it's in the back of everybody's mind. I
think at the moment, probably one of the concerns is
probably shipping just that cost at the moment with what's
going on worldwide, so it's probably a concern in the back.
And also fuel costs that's part of that. So all
of those costs, we're not quite sure when things may
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or hopefully come back, So you know, I think they're
built into the schedule at the moment just with that concern.
So we didn't have these issues that are going on,
it could even be higher.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The velvet situation. What are you anticipating for next season
given what we've known over the past twelve months.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I think well volume wized. I think we could even
be a couple of one hundred ton back on what
we were last season, and that's going to help. And
the word out there at the moment is certainly demand.
So I'd be very surprised if we don't have a
far better price than what we had last year. So
I think that's so there's a positive there in the
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markets of the year, so I think that certainly what
we should anticipate for this season. It's interesting at the
moment the Grading Committee of meeting to sort things out.
Last year was the real shambles with grades coming out
for the velvet, the different grades coming out far too late,
and we're in a situation where people were actually removing
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velvet before they knew what the grades were and went
to cut. So this season, I would imagine that grading committee,
which has quite this time around an influence from the producers,
should have those any changes, and I wouldn't think there'd
be a lot of change changes to the grading out
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in good time. I would suggest probably in the next
well hopefully in the next month.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I better leave it there. David, always always good to
chat on the Muster, and you enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Thanks Andy, it's pleasure, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Welcome back to the Muster on haker Nui. Dave McGregor's
chair of South and Fish and Game and joins us
this afternoon as a twenty twenty six duck shirting season
comes to its conclusion this weekend. Dave, good, afternoon. When
you look back at the season since the beginning of May. Personally,
have you found it?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah? After and Andy, yeah not quite well myself, we've
done quite well. Haven't probably hunted as much as I
would like. But you know, you seem to think three
months gives you a penny time and opportunity, but then
the last two weekends roll around and you think, shit,
I haven't really done as much as I should. But
to be honest, we probably haven't hunted as much grain
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as we did the previous year. That last year was
exceptional in the lake grain with the weather, especially around Riversdale, Belfa.
But no, we've been out a good number of times.
The rains over the last couple of weeks of put
ducks and paddocks, which is another different type of hunting.
And you know, then the ice, the few frosts. We
had a couple of pins that were frozen, which is
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an experience again for both hunter and dog. But you know,
we've had some good success founds of ponds that haven't
been hunted before that we had some good success on
and it's been good getting out with mates. Managed my
eleven year old. I allow eleven year olds to shoot opening,
so my young boy got his first parry on opening
with the fourteen and then managed to get five or
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six mallards with the fourteen and the twenty gauge throughout
the season and some paddic hunts, and then he's coming
out on the last day, last day with us on
Saturday for another another goal on a pond. So yeah,
it's been enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
How has it seemed over the season numbers wise of
what you're hearing, Has it been much of a much
of a dent in numbers?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Not really, Like I said, normally with their harvest. You know,
we have the guys that are in good areas on
good ponds with available feed that shoot well, you know,
they might get their limit. Other guys that have an
average hunt, and then some guys that have you know,
let's say it was the worst opening they've had in
forty years. And we kind of have that every year
with south and being so vast and weather conditions and
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crops going in and grain coming off and food availability,
it can be quite scattered. Sometimes, you know, rivers dolt
belfa can be hot but yet dipped, and lums and
can be nothing. So it does all depend where you are.
But most people have had had an average year, which
that's what the numbers sort of suggested when we went
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into the season.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Is the still a case here though, for them to
be declared a pace and just shooting throughout the year?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I yeah, you're probably shocking at the wrong person who
loves as duck. So I can see where people are
coming from when there's you know, when there's big numbers
on areas and crops and farmers that having issues. But
the permit system that we run things to have alleviated
that so much to some degree this year. But yeah,
(16:00):
I don't think it's I don't well. I think fed
Farmers tried that when they were sort of going the boycott,
and I don't think their members were taking because a
lot of their members are shooter so I think it
would be a tough ass to get them to cleared
as a pest.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Do you think it's something we should seriously look at though,
because especially during the late summer season and through March
and that during harvest, and you would have read the
stories about horrific numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Oh yes, they're always like I said, and you know,
we've got permit systems that disturb and the kill permits
that this year have gone really well, So I think
there's tools available to manage that. And yeah, so I
wouldn't like to see them be the cleared as a pest.
But I suppose that's always the conversation that people are
going to have.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What does it cost to get a permit if you
want to if you want to scare off tacks as
such as you call it. What's the story there, Dave.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
There's no cost to it.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's just a simple simple get hold of the team
down the office and they run through a few ways
of doing it and sort of you know, ask you
how many you've got, where they are, what they're on,
and then like said, if we believe it's a disturbed perment,
then we can get a disturbed perment, or if you've
if we think you've got a reasonable problem, we can
get a you can get a cul permit, which is
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a certain disine as you can go out and shoot.
So that seems too like there's been the odd time
that's been a disturb and they've come back and then
it's been a cull and you know, well, we know
ducks are pretty flighty, so if you've chased them off
and off, they do tend to move on. But it
doesn't cost anything. It's just a phone call and then
it can be done on ten minutes time over the phone.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, head up to the view of them basin for
a couple of races. The first one is a concerning one,
the issue of geze on the force on the lake front.
There has there been much cut through there, have you heard?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I haven't heard too much problems, But yes, there's like
I said, there is always geese up there, and they
do seem to be on the beach and on the
on the lake side and causing issues with you know,
the mess they leave behind. But as as we know,
fish and game don't look after geese anymore, so that's
kind of out of air whehealth. But we have consulted
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on the past up Intia with the numbers and the issues,
and we're always keen to, you know, give our knowledge
and expertise. But yeah, I haven't heard this too many
up there, But I haven't been up there for a
long time either, so I'm unaware.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, I suppose the issue around water quality is were
being told all the time, And indeed COLI comes into
the equation geese, the ducks and the likes. Then the
issue is there that these need to be these animals
need to be stamped out more often than not.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, and that's like I said, that's that's say call
with the with the e coli and all that, and
ducks who do seem to and get seed to contribute
to that. But like I said, at the moment, as
with the geese, they're not on air on air lift,
so we're we're sort of just an interested by stander
at the moment with the geese.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Just finally, mate. Regarding fjord and Wappaty being made or
heard of special interest in Fjordland, this is a great
news story.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I personally think it is. Yeah, like I said, you know,
to wap me up. There are a special herd there,
They're a valued herd. And the work that goes on
up there is very good. You know, there's a lot
of volunteer airs that do a lot of work in there,
a lot of trapping, all that stuff that cost the
taxpayer absolutely nothing. It's you know, so this is a
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good example of self funded really, you know, the people
going in there to hunt them for getting the trophy,
the organization up there that are taking out excess numbers
to make sure they don't explode numbers wise, and it's
a healthy herd, and it's a good herd, and it's
looking after the bush, so I said of the wind wind,
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whichever way you look at it, because it's you know,
people are still getting to enjoy to go in there.
It's improving the habitat and the bush and the wildlife,
and it's taken out the pest at the same time,
all you know, not costing anyone any money. So I
think it's a great initiative. Well done, got it over
the line.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So you're heading out to the Bye Bye for the
last two days of season.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, no, we're going outside. Were twicked in between because
Saturday is meant to be absolute rubbish. So we've we've
kind of got a possibility of going into a momo
which is not the world's best momo to shootout, shootout of.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But come out as about the occasion, embrace it mate.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Ah, well, yeah, I'm getting hold so you don't.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like getting wet, join the club.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And then we've also got the option of sitting outside
in the a frame, which would be better shooting, but
again we might get wet. So considering I'm taking the kids,
we might just air on the caution. It might be
in the momo just for a nice warm cup of
tea or soup around ten o'clock, just to warm ourselves up.
But it looks fantastic at the moment, but it doesn't
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look great in the forecast.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Thanks very much for your time, Dave, boys appreciated.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Good to girl.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Thank you, Dave McGregor of South and Fishing Game. The
end of the duck hunting season twenty twenty six is
this weekend you're listening to the master Up. Next, let's
go down to the river era of South and catch
up with Jordi Eid Welcome back to the musterro and
(21:11):
Hakanui Blondie. Is the music today? That song there Maria
come out about nineteen eighty eight, ninety nineteen ninety eight,
nineteen ninety nine, so a couple of years ago. Is
it always as a music now? Jordia ed joins us
next from the South proclaimed River Era of the South,
not self proclaimed. It is a river era of the South,
Mighty Riverton. Good afternoon, Jordi, How are.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
You yeah on good things?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Andy?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
How are you pretty good? As we look at a
I don't know the wind has them been too bad?
The forecast. I were talking a bit of nonsense over
Friday and Saturday. They seem to have peddled it back
a little bit. But look, it's July.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah no, it's will probably be a bit more moist
this year than last year. But you know, we've had
seventy old mills already for July and we only got
thirty last year. Definitely in the river here at the
south today, the sun's listening here and the grass is growing.
So yeah, I'll take it this winter. But I just
hope that this rubbish that we're going to get we
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don't get it in another six weeks time.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You're so temperatures eight point three today, so yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yeah, well that's right. I know a guy just down
the road here is measured on a dairy farm. They
got seventeen kilos a day for the winter for June,
so you know, do you famils will be doing thirty odds,
So yeah, we'll take that.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, the seasons all over the show, I mean people
were doing bayleadge at the end of May for goodness sake,
and then pretty much feeding out the next day. That
was a situation.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yeah, well, I've we scanned a couple of weeks ago,
and I put all my models back on grass to
sort of bring some of these covers down, you know,
to get them off before lemming. So you know we've
been under stopped and THELF having the dairy farm and
the system and gives them all fat. But you know
that grass growth that's been sort of since the rain
went to the US has just been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
What a problem to have.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yeah, I know it's a good problem to have. And
I mean this if this is global warming the South
and bring it on.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Now you're scanning figures, how did they go?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Pretty much fairly similar to last year? Yeah, we but
similar sort of dries. We're sort of oldnated. We few
triplets for more twins and less singles of more twins.
So I'll probably take that, probably since we've aught the
Jerry farms sort of trying to get a bit more
efficient sheep rather than having these triplets to the moon.
So yeah, I'll quite happily sort of take that eleven
percent triplets. It sort of makes it much more manageable
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and a pleasurable sort of a job if this last
few springs have been having so no, it seems to
be reasonably happy off it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We're not.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
We're sort of twenty percent off what we used to
scan sort of fifteen years ago, which is, you know,
ridiculous when you start scanning in the twenties of triplets.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So triplets for you, nothing but a nuisance. Are tolerable?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Yeah, yeah, probably tolerable because we've got a sort of
having a the teft from the composite sheep. They've got
the ability to rear them. But at the same time,
you know, you've got those three lambs, they are definitely
slower grown. You've got the sort of april may well,
you know how much grass the animal's got to eat
to get to that far. I think it's you know,
I think the sheep's only born off two teeth, so
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you're far getting efficient. You trying to get those lambs
away January February rather than having that extra lamb on
it sort of starts complicating everything else.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
How long you've been using tear froms since.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Twenty twenty two, so yeah, so we've been sort of
dabbed with the Welshers and everybody else to us the
defrons and so no, I've done They've done well for
us over the years, and you know, I would have said,
they've probably turned into reasonably use a kear sheep for
us in their operation.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, there you go, Snowdy is a good plug for you.
Look the GDT, here's a good news story this week too,
corrected itself came up I think about one point five
percent until something similar to those figures after a number
of declines. That's pretty typical for this time of the season.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
They would imagine, Yeah, if you look back July and
August as often the declines there because they're matching, it
will spring summer production overseas maximize over there. And you know,
like I've been sort of get caught down the past
or fixing a favorit of production around now, and so
I've sort of been quite reserved the last two or
three years of how much you sort of fixed this
time of the year. You know, they came out nine
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to US thirty last week, and the talk was out
there to get it fixed at nine thirty and go
for gold. But you know, I was sort of bit
headed to look back and see what's happening because the
sort of the information I sort of gathered from that
going up is that Europe's starting to get quite dry,
which you know, and the States. So there's plenty of
milk out there, but there's just a bit uncertainty around
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the corner about if there's going to be much in
the next two or three months.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just going to be interesting to see how this
transpires over the next couple of auctions, I suppose as
production starts ramping up, and let you say it's a
case of supply and demand. It's pretty much the minimal
point for New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah, well, I did see this auction had sort of
twice as much on it than the last couple so too.
So that was quite interesting fact for it to go
up when there was twice as much on it, or
you know, quite a bit more than what there's been previously.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And of course you look at the other flow on
costs on farm interesting as well, regarding the CPI Consumer
Price Index going up the way it has and being
driven by the fuel situation. Of course, the uncertainty with
the whole Iran scenario and the US and unfortunately down
here we've talked about it before, we're talking about it again.
It's not so much about fuel supply, it's just the
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price we're going to have to pay given that it's
now over four dollars a gallon in the States, which
is a driving factor too.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Yeah, and know we've just got to really, you know,
we're at the end of the chain was being a farmer,
and we've got to resort those costs, you know, not
the pkh on contracted prices up seventy dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I know.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
You we've been this sort of going into a better
six seventh season of dering now and you know we're
probably making more on an eight to fifty pay six
or seven years ago than we are now on a
nine to seventy just the fact of the costs of
how much of the costs have grown on the other
side of the leader.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's just inflation to a t I suppose.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Yeah, it is inflation to a t ye. And I
mean it's all about the trying to but level everything
out and get a bit in the right place, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So what's your focus at the moment, Just getting organized
for carving, landing still a wee way away, just carry
on doing what you do for the time of year.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Yeah, it is really the dairy fane. We've put protect
Gayson about a month ago, and we're going to collars
on the cow, so the collars on the heapers yesterday,
seeing what we can do a bit of technology down
there really and you know if having the auto draft
and gates and we're going to put another pin on that.
So there's a few sort of tools of that that
have been socio the winter and you're just getting everything
with the cows are away home next week. So it's
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the job done for me.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, Blake, and you're miss Christmas if you're not careful, Jordy.
But that's a story for a couple of months down
the loan. We think about it.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Oh definitely, yeah, I know that's right in July, so
we were you know, we're nearly sixty percent the way
through the year and yeah we've.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Got the stacks to look forward to next week. It's
our year, Jordy. Yet always appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, well I would watch the m on Friday down
the at Ripton and I don't know, yeah, a hole
myrest so that I'm always fashion stag supporder.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But obviously, jeez, you nearly needed your boots last week
because of the injuries.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Oh yeah, definitely a year but things have changed. But
I'm glad I wasn't hitting those things as the quite
heavy collisions. I don't think my body would handle that anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Thanks Jordy.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Jordy Reed based at the river Yere of the South,
which is Riverton. You're listening to the Muster. Up next
Matt Ward in the Beef and Lamb slot.
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Speaker 1 (28:40):
Matt Ward joins us this afternoon on the Muster and
the Beef and Lamb slot. Now we first got met
on the program when he was the winner of a
scholarship was Beef and Lamb, and that's going to be
the theme of air chat today. Good afternoon, Matt, how sings?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You're good? Yeah, everything's everything's taking along pretty good. You've
got me on twice in two weeks, mate, So I
don't know whether I'm getting sick of listen to my
own voice or your listeners. Probably definitely asked. So we'll
rap through this one pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, we keep doing this, we'll have a sponsor for
you short At least you keep pushing your brain. That's
all I can say it right, So, anyway, you're on today,
talking about the Kellogg's project and the likes that you
were involved with. Was PA for their New Zealand go
back to the nuts and balts of it, why'd you
put yourself forward?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, so I was actually I didn't end up putting
myself forward. To be fair, endy. I seen I seen
when they advertised for it a couple of years ago,
and to be fear, I sort of looked at it
as I share, it's probably something, and I wouldn't I
wouldn't nominate myself for I'm not. I wasn't really into
putting myself out there for something like that. And at
the time we were getting here, we're getting here, fum
(29:49):
here getting a rental appraisal done on it by Dallas
and Michelle Lucas. And then after that they ended up
nominating me for it, which like, I'm bloody grateful for her.
I mean, when they asked me if they if they
could nominate me, I was like, shit, even that's still
not really my not my gem. But yeah, for what
I've managed to get out of it has been has
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been massive. So that's been really good.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Well, you're just setting like your typical south Under backwards
and coming forwards.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, and it's sort of I don't know. I've
definitely learned, especially through the whole Callogg process, like just
putting yourself out there. Even Genie, if you told me
two years ago I would have been talking to you
on the radio, I would have turned you straight down.
You start about trying to put yourself out there and
probably being confident, and you probably learned to be a
bit more confident within myself too, has been one of
(30:40):
the big learnings I've got out of it now.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
The interview process after you got nominated. But what actually
went on there? What was it scary from your side
of it, because, like you say, doing public relations, public
speaking and everything, it's not everyone's cap of tea.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
It was nerve wrecking because i'd my mind's view was
west clear turned from Beef and Lamb and Met McCrae,
and to have a well, Cleve's pretty good, but to
have a pretty staunched window supporter like Met sitting.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I was about to say that given this week, it's
pretty tay.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, I wasn't sure how that was going to go,
but it was actually really good. And then out of
that whole process, I was I was really lucky to
have met Met was like a bit of a mentor
for the first year after winning the scholarship. So yeah,
I've got to know him really well and he's put
the window stuff aside his bloody good feel and he's
been quite handy to have on my side too, So
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that's all worked out pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Now you get funding as well. When you get the scholarship, ma'am,
what do you put it towards? How do you decide
how are you going to allocate?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah? I actually found that quite tricky, to be fair.
I at seven and a half grand and well, one
it's a lot of money, and two it's a pretty
big honor to have to have money like that to
go towards something, and I really didn't want to screw
it up. And I sort of thought a big thing
for me was if I'm going to go do something,
(32:04):
I'm going to go do something I wouldn't have done
if it was me putting myself out there to do it,
if you like, if you get that, So I sort
of thought about whether do it, whether I was going
to do a rabobank one of the Rabobank courses or
look at like a discussion group to get into or.
But then I sort of landed on Kellogg's because I
(32:24):
was I never would have done that anyway, so why
not put myself out there? And like I had to
apply for Kelloggs and luturally enough scraped in.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So regarding the research on your chosen subject, just go
over the what that was again.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, So part of the Kellogg process was doing like
a six month research project and then we had to
ride a report to finish that off and present the report.
And I chose to do mine on the use of
terminal size in an air sheep farming systems and just
sort of dig into whether they're getting utilized to their
(33:03):
full potential and ended up falling down the rabbit hole
of looking into sort of like breeding their best use
to get good maternal rams and then everything else going
to a terminal and seeing how far you can push
that ratio out. Yeah, I just sort of learning through
(33:24):
that whole process. Like there's a lot of people try
to get a heap of say Romney replacements, for example,
and you're only going to pick maybe fifty or sixty
percent of them, then that good Romney replacement just ends
up going to the works. Whereas if she could be
a good terminal side lamb. You're getting that better, better
weight gain on her. Yeah, and then that's ends up
going as a better lamb to the work. So through
(33:46):
the whole process worked out around like you can sort
of push it to like a fifty to fifty ratio
and then through done a few gross margins on it
and worked out like weaning time. It wasn't too much
of a difference, but it was after weaning that that
feed that we got that extra feed we had growing
because we're getting more lambs away sooner ended up meaning
(34:09):
we were putting i think from memory, like a one
point six kg of carcass weight on on air lambs
by the end of the season with more terminals in
the system then then less. So that's sort of where
the big, the big game changer came from it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So the big thing for you, the reward I suppose,
was putting yourself out there and getting out of your
comfort zone and it worked.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, it was then, And it was like even through
the whole Kellogg process, I remember sitting up at Lincoln
in the first day and had that that what's it
syndrome called where you feel.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Like you're not not Stockholm and pasta syndrome and pasta.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
That's the yeah, yeah, where you feel like you don't
belong there, like we all got. We're all send in
their bios about each of their sounds, and they sent
them out the week before we all met, and I
remember reading them like what these people are well and
above just a little wee sheep farming from moredern Mainz
and then going right through the whole process, and then
(35:07):
the last day of Kellogg's they got us to reintroduce
ourselves and the way everyone had sort of listed themselves
in confidence, and there was that feeling like you actually
belong belong there. Yeah, that's probably definitely the biggest thing
I got got out of it.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I've just got a question down here from clear
actually thanks Claire outcomes of being part of the scholarship
that goes on to say, obviously your delights to be
part of a Southern South Island Farmer Council because of
the epic Christmas gatherings. I'm going by that. Does Graham
Evans do karaoke?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
No, I didn't hear, haven't heard Graham sing yet, But
that's definitely one of the big positives I've got out
of it is like getting to know that. I got
to know the Farmer Council a weave it before we
during that whole process of doing my Kellogg and then
and then was that October last year I ended up
getting voted on to the Farmer Council and that's been Yeah,
(36:06):
it's been good fun. It's sort of and I say
every time, like I'm not a hundred pesosential what I'm
offering to them, but sitting in a room full of
a lot of smart farmers from South and then South Totigo,
like I'm definitely getting a hell of a lot out
of it. Yeah, and then going away and a we
Christmas party. You can't definitely can't complain of that either,
can you.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So what are your words of encouragement for people who
are on the fence about applying.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, I just see it's sort of one of those
opportunities like take the just have a red red hot
crack at it and at the end of the day,
there's nothing to lose from applying, putting yourself out there
and probably a big thing to anyone listening, like you
can nominate people as well, so that you can have
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your farm manager or anyone anyone around. If you know
of a good young person who's between the age of
twenty one, and you'd have to look online to see
what the ages are, but the bit of experience and
wanting to put themselves forward, then you can nominate people
to really try to push them into the next step
of their career development as well. I think that's I
(37:14):
think that's the key. All day.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Your details are online, the beef and lambs. So it
just finally we'll talk a bit about Saturday. You're going
to have your lucky head on. Jesus looks like a
cab driver from Brooklyn wearing that thing.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm too busy, too busy, trying to keep my feet
running water on all the time. Sessially after Saturday.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Shut.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I was on and off there all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
What happens on Saturday? What give us an app to
give us a score?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Oh, I'm not going to be it's going to be close.
I'm going to go sure, what am I going to go?
Twenty five to edend? We're going to go down there
and ruin the parade. But when like Jesus is going
to take every single little ounce of what we've got
to get up over them. The reason why they've well,
while they're the best Division one team going and what
(38:05):
I've been the best for a long time. And they've
got a way of winning fine, Like you just need
to look at the history. They've got a way of
winning finals, especially at home. And if it's going to
be a wet track, yeah, we've got We've got a
lot in front of us. But we don't have anything
to lose going down there, which we are. We're quite
excited about. We don't have too much pressure or anything. We've
just got to go down and get the job done.
(38:27):
Go awave it better than what we've done both times
we've played them this year, and it's going to be
a hell of a game.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You've just got to trust the processes. Better leave it there, Matt,
Thanks for your time. Is always good luck on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Yeah cool, Thank you, Indy, Matt Ward The Beef and
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Speaker 1 (38:50):
Nathan burdens up next to wrap up. Welcome back to
the Muster. Ourson sporting guru is Nathan Burdon out of
him for Cargill Greetings, Nathan, how are you.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, I'm very good mate, Thank you. Yeah, I'm very good. Unfortunately,
probably a bit healthier than the than the shelf of
the Stags depth at the moment.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Oh my god, this is just a catastrophe. It was
still a week out from the MPC and there it's
almost a case of last man standing in some positions.
This does not look good.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
And normally we've got so much hoping ambition at the
stage of the season. Just a week and a half
or so out of the start of the NPC and
king off was Stagg Day and all that sort of thing.
And I really feel for the for the new coaches,
especially head coached scottyd who is pouring his heart and
sol into this job. But just a series of polemical
(39:45):
sort of events is meant that the Stag that they're
really scratching around for a backline for this final preseason
game against Counties. And yeah, and in terms of putting
together you know, really strong twenty three for Stag Day.
You know they'll be hoping that I pick up many
(40:05):
or any injuries against Counties.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Is there a realistic chance that Jack Taylor goes as
part of his extended a b squed in South Africa.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
At the moment, it feels like the worst secret in
Southern if not New Zealand rugby. So I mean it
would it would be fantastic I was reading earlier. I mean,
Brady mckellis has been named he's been named captain of
Canterbury for the MPC camp because he played two teas
(40:36):
for the All Blacks last year. So obviously the press
has been a bit of a word that he's not
necessarily the next cab off the ranks. So does that
point for them taking a younger player on this tour?
And you know, I think, I mean, I mean, Jack
will be just an outstanding tour. As souldimension, he'd be
a great man to have him on that potentially might
not see a lot of rugby, So you want someone
(40:57):
who's just going to be there that's sort of soaked it,
soaked it all up and learn and he'll be a
great man in that role. So it'd be really good
for Southern rugby to have a homegrown player. He's come
through the ranks and done everything right. But he's also
by the same token so early on in his career
(41:17):
that if if this isn't his opportunity, then his time
will certainly come.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
So what does this mean for the Stags a week
out from the MPC. I mean, you always live and
hope being a Southern supporter, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, and it's probably I did a bit of a
did a bit of an exercise earlier this morning, and
it's not a probably not a stray or even silly
air comparison, but I looked at the final sort of
starting fifteen that played in that terrible game against North
Harbor in the final round of the NPC last year,
(41:50):
metched that up against the starting fifteen that will playing
against the counties in this final preseason game. We had
three in the there's three in the Ford pack, so
me s Seawn went the and and and ali ahor
in the in the second row and then and there's
only one member of the back line next year is
the only player who who'll be appearing in both of
(42:11):
those games. So just sort of a turnover between the seasons,
but also be the injuries that they've got in the
squad at the moment, So not an ideal situation, almost
sort of starting from scratch for those for the Stags
coaching team.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
The Commonwealth games getting underway in Glasgow. This is really
flight under the radar.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It's it's an accurate discussion, and I do I sort
of feel for the event. It already had sort of
an interesting I guess position in the in the sporting landscape,
and I guess a bit of a battle for relevance.
I x in let's go for the for the twenty
(42:54):
fourteen games and helped cover those, and you know, it
was it was great to be here in Glasgow. Is
a great see and they did a great job of
hosting them. I'm sure they'll do it. They'll do sort
of a game with these sort of paid down only
ten sports on a roster. It is a tough one.
It's sort of happening and not great house for us.
(43:16):
But we do have a few south ends in action,
so I'm sure there'll be a few people sort of
setting the alarm clock and making sure they can follow
the action.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
The standard ten sports from the usual fifteen to twenty.
You've got athletics, boxing, weightlifting, judo, artistic gymnastics, track, cycling, balls, swimming, netball,
and that boomer of a sport in New Zealand three
by three basketball.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, and you know there's I
think are targeting thirty five medals across the New Zealand
team and compare that with fifteen medals that they got
in Colin Birmingham, so with that paid them roster. Yet
we've got plenty of South and there's an action Julia
(43:58):
O'Connell making Commonwealth Games debut section at sixty seven years young,
she's the oldest member of the New Zealand team competing
in the Power of Peers women's events, so it will
be really interesting to see how she goes. We've of course,
we've got the four Southern Steel players who helped the
make up that Silver Ferns team, including Kate Efferon coming
(44:21):
off the back of an outstanding Australian campaign and being
selected as vice captain of the Silver Ferns. We've got
Tory Morby who's ranked third in the Commonwealth in javelin
at the moment, so a very strong Metal prospect in
the athletics. And then of course got the men's endurance
squad with Tom Sexton, Nick Kergazoo and young Marshall Earra
(44:44):
would sob a good chance particularly in the team to suit.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Is this the case of make or break for the
Calm Games. Remembering this was supposed to be howd in
reasional Victoria Australia, this Australia this year, but they just
came out from the get go and said, look, we
can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Ye I know the Glads regions have said, well this,
this is a financial model that that is actually a
lot more sustainable and it might be one that other
countries in the Commonwealth could go well, yep, we will
put our hands up to be able to do one
that is that is more like this, more relevant for us,
more financially sustainable. So maybe this is the maybe this
(45:22):
is the way forward, or maybe this is sort of
the death now for the event, it will be interesting
to see. I guess what sort of exposure or attention
it can grab over the next over the next few weeks,
and yet I'll probably put it to know how things
are going to go and go forward.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Just quickly to wrap up now, it's a situation with
Netbulle New Zealand and the potential for no aims and
premiership next year. This is just getting murky.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, and we're reading about these the franchises that have
most recently I guess been hearly propped up by net
New Zealand and we're being polled have been hold that
contracts for their sort of coaching staff, backroom staff can't
won't be honored past the end of end of this month.
(46:10):
So yeah, it's it's hard to find a positive story
out of out of franchise. Netball at the moment thinks
there are things that just we're waiting for something really
good to come out in terms of what next year
is going to look like being on ten to hooks
for three years really in terms of getting a strong
broodcasting deal that can prop that Popetoi sharp. But yea,
(46:32):
the signs aren't great.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Nathan Burden always good to chat on The Master.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Lovely thanks mate.
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Speaker 3 (47:15):
Here we'll go there.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
And how did it go on again? Pgg Wright some
presents stock selling action that it curred at the chaut
and sale. Yeah, this morning with Dave Morrison on the
ground to give us an update on prices. Good afternoon, Teagle,
How do we go.
Speaker 7 (47:27):
Doing any Yeah, lucky, another beautiful day today in sunny childhood.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Prices are pretty good.
Speaker 7 (47:32):
Just the best of prime names, the best prime rames
sort of tow seventy to ninety. That's the very topy end,
midium prime James, sort of fifty just with the light
of commission prime names sort of around there, sort of
one teen down into the ram section. Andy, you know,
I'm sorry, got a day, the best of rams having
(47:54):
twenty what's the light of rams around at fifty to
fifty five dollars? Limited the buying power there, and the
Mutton Mutton was pretty good. The best to use, Yeah,
very heavy use, sort of two thirty two forty million US,
sort of one eighty five to two hundred of the
lighter conditioned news. The end is hurvering around it's one
hundred and hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, probably traveled with
(48:15):
today on those lighter us into the store lambs. Yeah,
good times, gadding store lands. Best of store lambs are
sort of one ninety two hundred milliumsort of one seventy
five to one eighty and the smaller of the store
ends sort of one forty one fifty SI market certainly
back a week, but on previous weeks. That wraps up
the child to me, pour downy.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
What's happening as far as clearing sales, table clearing stales
and we've.
Speaker 7 (48:39):
Got yes, we've got one on Monday, Jamis Mallott's on
Monday at White Kicker one thirty on Monday, just outside
of White Kiker Township fifteen hundred. Robby used there to
the text for rams. So yeah, yeah, looking for the
good news skin well use coming along at one video
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which is getting close to the high we're expecting, although
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the weather is supposed to correct itself over the next
couple of days, but it's a moving feast at the moment,
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That's a banga chun hey this afternoon. For the weather anyway,
Thursday partly cloudy with calm, variable wins and we're going
for a higher fourteen almost there. Friday, a few showers
later on with like north easterlies and haven't wrote down
in temperature, but it's getting nippy. I think it's about
the highest seven looking on the website before Saturday Raymond
(01:23):
snowshowers like nor Easties minus one and six, but I
think that's moved since I wrote that down of it
earlier as well. Sunday partly cloudy with light NOI easterlyes
minus one and seven and Monday Monday Sunday calm, variable
winds two and nine. So temperature is to hand Clinton
six point one, Northern South and five point five, Riverton
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eight point three, tian Now six point three, Winton six
and Woodland's at seven point one. David Stevens Dear Farming
at Balfa gets us underway this afternoon and you talk
about Venison's schedules for the upcoming season where the starting
point is, and Dave talks about a figure which is
really good for the industry. We talk about the red
(02:05):
meat sector and the pricing structure of what we're seeing
for these early prices for the season, and it looks
as though Venison's playing ball as well. Dave McGregor, Chair
of South and Fishing Game. It's a conclusion of a
duck shooting season. This weekend so we catch up with
David and see how it's gone from his perspective as well.
Matt Ward, he's on this week in the Beef of
(02:28):
lambslot talking about the Beef for Lambs Scholarship which Matt
was a recipient of last year, and why he thinks
you need to be involved with it. Jeordy yed at
the river era of the South, which is beautiful Riverton.
We see how things are going on the ranch there
as carving gets close and lambing not too far away
as well, and our residents sporting Gary Nathan Bird in
(02:49):
the South and Stags g Og. We're still eight days
out from the start of the NPC Stag Day's not
too far away and already South has got an injury crisis,
and as well the Commonwealth Games flying under the radar,
but is in fact getting underway in the next couple
of days. Our resident sporting guru is Nathan Burden, so
(03:10):
he pops by or he told you they didn't. I
actually Tigel David Morrison, the one and only. How I
went from Nathan Burden to David and backing ends the
story for another day. Anyway, we'll crank into it of
David Stevens. David Stevens gets us underway this afternoon on
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the Muster Dear Farmer base at near the dale Is
Farm near Belfa in northern Southland. David, Good, afternoon, We're
not far until the end of July. How's everything being good?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Any? Good?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Afternoon?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Good.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
It's emplain about a winter like this. It's a bit
damp on top, but this morning it was only a
very light for us, so no can can plane at all.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Would you say the seasons have moved a little bit
based on what we've seen over the past ten fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Ah, yes, yeah, no, I mean you look back. I
don't think we get quite the you know, when the
spring was spring. This is an old fellow's perspective. I
suppose spring was spring the way back, and you know,
sort of defined between winter and spring. That was, it
didn't seem to drag through like we do these days.
We end up with pretty sometimes pretty lousy weather in spring.
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But I think it's it's changed, has no doubt about that.
I mean, certainly we don't get the frost and we
don't get the snow and what we used to get.
I mean, you look around in northern south and back
in those early days when I was a young fellow,
and you know, we had skating rinks, outdoor skating rinks
over at wai Kai and up at Garston, and you
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wouldn't get that these days.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
We used to have a few rushes on the farm
and the ice in between was at sake. You could
go on there and you scale all right, Cracker Jackson,
you're a young fellow and have a good skate round.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, so answer your question, Yes it's changed.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yes, So how's everything being over the last month or
so anyway on the farm.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Oh god, we had a wee break over an Aussie
for a bit and then come back and obviously there
was a wee bit of a con temperature between there
and here. But no, it's been good on farm. We've
last week we pretested the maiden heins, the ones that
we put to elk. Yeah, pretty happy with the result,
really considering the maidens and putting them them or young
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elk bulls to them. And we end up with eighty percent,
which wasn't too bad.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I know.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
There was other examples of just talking to the chap
that does the scanning, and there's other examples where they've
really had a bit of a disaster with maidens, so no,
it couldn't complain about.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That at all.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We've been doing a bit of R and M, quite
a bit of fencing, tiding up some of the fences,
renewing them the ones that have been in for probably
forty years, and also block next door we've been start
up as well. So it's not a cheap exercise these
days with the cost of fencing for deer farming. But
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as we comments before, the once do it well and
that's another job in just around tiding up around the place,
getting already going into the spring again. The minds all
they'll stay on. They're on stubble at the moment and
getting badded, so they'll stay there and we normally take
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them right through to early October before we start set
stocking them, so that's where they'll be and the maidens,
the sorry the rising yeelings and then her velvet is
really another couple of weeks away, and really they need
their feed needs lifted, so if you haven't got the grass,
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really you've got to look at supplements really for them.
They start growing, particularly the yieldings, they need to be
pushed along. And yeah, so that's pretty much what's going
on farm at the moment?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Andy, Now, David, about six months ago, even longer, you
talked about just winding it back and just relaxing a bit.
But the pendulum swung all of a sudden. You got
a new sense on life and you're getting busy again.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yes, yeah, you got to do something. When you've got
a few acres, you've got to do something with it,
so cut and carry. There's not a lot of money
in that, so but no, no, it's good. And to
be honest, I mean, when you're dear farming just a
commercial operation, now, labor is not a big thing. I mean,
it's a matter of just keeping them feed and looking
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after them that way, so there's not a lot of
animal health or anything like that to do with it.
So it's really a matter of just feeding them well
and keep moving them on. But no, we might even
purchase a few more irons actually, just to fill that gap.
Were a drys where we might pick a few more up.
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And you're looking at around about from Maiden Hinds in
calf you're looking around about round about eight hundred dollars
at the moment, so we may do that yet too.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
How did those prices ranked say to about five years ago.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Five years ago, probably up there some like the agent
the other day where he was looking at the ones
at home and he said, they're probably in calf now.
We paid seven to fifty for them and before mating,
and they're probably that quality now would be sitting around
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about eleven hundred for those, so they're good. They're good irons.
We actually purchased them from Organs, so you know they've
got growth rate, genetics, but no, probably a bit less
it might have been. You might have been looking at
six or seven hundred dollars back then, so you know
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it's up a bit, mind you, and saying that the
schedule is contracts are out there, you know, twelve dollars
a k plus, so you know that's as high as
it's ever been and it needs to be around about
that to compete against the other sectors. So you know
it could even get higher. But that's sort of early season,
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and we've seen the last year or two where it
hasn't dropped away in the autumn at all, So you're
really looking at possibly may not be that twelve dollars,
but certainly could be around eleven dollars. Lights through to
the autumn.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now, it's interesting you say that Jamie McKay often refers
to having a ten dollar base for your meat, for
your will and for your milk price as such, and
you've talked in the past about that ten dollar figure
as well. So is this just a realization of where
the industry's at this price?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
I think so just demand really, but insane that. I
mean costs have gone up too. I mean really, when
you look at deer farming, once you set up, you
know your labor costs and also lit all health, those
sorts of things, and not huge costs on farm. So
really we're probably lucky that way. But no, it needs
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to be up there. I mean it's just to compete,
and other costs have gone up. I mean it's not
just on farm costs. I mean you've got insurances and
rates and you know, all of those things. They just
keep skyrocketing. So you know, there's a lot of other
expenses that doesn't matter what you're in, you've got and
you know to keep up with that, you really need
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to get up around that twelve dollars to actually cover
those costs. So it's long at last. And yeah, as
long as we don't end up with some unusual tariff
tiff coming into the States.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Will be find is that some of the concerns are
the terriffs of the States.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I suppose it's in the back of everybody's mind. I
think at the moment, probably one of the concerns is
probably shipping just that cost at the moment with what's
going on worldwide, so it's probably a concern in the back.
And also fuel costs that's part of that. So all
of those costs, we're not quite sure when things may
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or hopefully come back, So you know, I think they're
built into the schedule at the moment just with that concern.
So we didn't have these issues that are going on,
it could even be higher.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The velvet situation. What are you anticipating for next season
given what we've known over the past twelve months.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I think well volume wized. I think we could even
be a couple of one hundred ton back on what
we were last season, and that's going to help. And
the word out there at the moment is certainly demand.
So I'd be very surprised if we don't have a
far better price than what we had last year. So
I think that's so there's a positive there in the
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markets of the year, so I think that certainly what
we should anticipate for this season. It's interesting at the
moment the Grading Committee of meeting to sort things out.
Last year was the real shambles with grades coming out
for the velvet, the different grades coming out far too late,
and we're in a situation where people were actually removing
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velvet before they knew what the grades were and went
to cut. So this season, I would imagine that grading committee,
which has quite this time around an influence from the producers,
should have those any changes, and I wouldn't think there'd
be a lot of change changes to the grading out
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in good time. I would suggest probably in the next
well hopefully in the next month.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I better leave it there. David, always always good to
chat on the Muster, and you enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Thanks Andy, it's pleasure, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Welcome back to the Muster on haker Nui. Dave McGregor's
chair of South and Fish and Game and joins us
this afternoon as a twenty twenty six duck shirting season
comes to its conclusion this weekend. Dave, good, afternoon. When
you look back at the season since the beginning of May. Personally,
have you found it?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah? After and Andy, yeah not quite well myself, we've
done quite well. Haven't probably hunted as much as I
would like. But you know, you seem to think three
months gives you a penny time and opportunity, but then
the last two weekends roll around and you think, shit,
I haven't really done as much as I should. But
to be honest, we probably haven't hunted as much grain
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as we did the previous year. That last year was
exceptional in the lake grain with the weather, especially around Riversdale, Belfa.
But no, we've been out a good number of times.
The rains over the last couple of weeks of put
ducks and paddocks, which is another different type of hunting.
And you know, then the ice, the few frosts. We
had a couple of pins that were frozen, which is
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an experience again for both hunter and dog. But you know,
we've had some good success founds of ponds that haven't
been hunted before that we had some good success on
and it's been good getting out with mates. Managed my
eleven year old. I allow eleven year olds to shoot opening,
so my young boy got his first parry on opening
with the fourteen and then managed to get five or
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six mallards with the fourteen and the twenty gauge throughout
the season and some paddic hunts, and then he's coming
out on the last day, last day with us on
Saturday for another another goal on a pond. So yeah,
it's been enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
How has it seemed over the season numbers wise of
what you're hearing, Has it been much of a much
of a dent in numbers?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Not really, Like I said, normally with their harvest. You know,
we have the guys that are in good areas on
good ponds with available feed that shoot well, you know,
they might get their limit. Other guys that have an
average hunt, and then some guys that have you know,
let's say it was the worst opening they've had in
forty years. And we kind of have that every year
with south and being so vast and weather conditions and
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crops going in and grain coming off and food availability,
it can be quite scattered. Sometimes, you know, rivers dolt
belfa can be hot but yet dipped, and lums and
can be nothing. So it does all depend where you are.
But most people have had had an average year, which
that's what the numbers sort of suggested when we went
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into the season.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Is the still a case here though, for them to
be declared a pace and just shooting throughout the year?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I yeah, you're probably shocking at the wrong person who
loves as duck. So I can see where people are
coming from when there's you know, when there's big numbers
on areas and crops and farmers that having issues. But
the permit system that we run things to have alleviated
that so much to some degree this year. But yeah,
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I don't think it's I don't well. I think fed
Farmers tried that when they were sort of going the boycott,
and I don't think their members were taking because a
lot of their members are shooter so I think it
would be a tough ass to get them to cleared
as a pest.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Do you think it's something we should seriously look at though,
because especially during the late summer season and through March
and that during harvest, and you would have read the
stories about horrific numbers.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Oh yes, they're always like I said, and you know,
we've got permit systems that disturb and the kill permits
that this year have gone really well, So I think
there's tools available to manage that. And yeah, so I
wouldn't like to see them be the cleared as a pest.
But I suppose that's always the conversation that people are
going to have.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
What does it cost to get a permit if you
want to if you want to scare off tacks as
such as you call it. What's the story there, Dave.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
There's no cost to it.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
It's just a simple simple get hold of the team
down the office and they run through a few ways
of doing it and sort of you know, ask you
how many you've got, where they are, what they're on,
and then like said, if we believe it's a disturbed perment,
then we can get a disturbed perment, or if you've
if we think you've got a reasonable problem, we can
get a you can get a cul permit, which is
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a certain disine as you can go out and shoot.
So that seems too like there's been the odd time
that's been a disturb and they've come back and then
it's been a cull and you know, well, we know
ducks are pretty flighty, so if you've chased them off
and off, they do tend to move on. But it
doesn't cost anything. It's just a phone call and then
it can be done on ten minutes time over the phone.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, head up to the view of them basin for
a couple of races. The first one is a concerning one,
the issue of geze on the force on the lake front.
There has there been much cut through there, have you heard?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I haven't heard too much problems, But yes, there's like
I said, there is always geese up there, and they
do seem to be on the beach and on the
on the lake side and causing issues with you know,
the mess they leave behind. But as as we know,
fish and game don't look after geese anymore, so that's
kind of out of air whehealth. But we have consulted
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on the past up Intia with the numbers and the issues,
and we're always keen to, you know, give our knowledge
and expertise. But yeah, I haven't heard this too many
up there, But I haven't been up there for a
long time either, so I'm unaware.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, I suppose the issue around water quality is were
being told all the time, And indeed COLI comes into
the equation geese, the ducks and the likes. Then the
issue is there that these need to be these animals
need to be stamped out more often than not.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, and that's like I said, that's that's say call
with the with the e coli and all that, and
ducks who do seem to and get seed to contribute
to that. But like I said, at the moment, as
with the geese, they're not on air on air lift,
so we're we're sort of just an interested by stander
at the moment with the geese.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Just finally, mate. Regarding fjord and Wappaty being made or
heard of special interest in Fjordland, this is a great
news story.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I personally think it is. Yeah, like I said, you know,
to wap me up. There are a special herd there,
They're a valued herd. And the work that goes on
up there is very good. You know, there's a lot
of volunteer airs that do a lot of work in there,
a lot of trapping, all that stuff that cost the
taxpayer absolutely nothing. It's you know, so this is a
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good example of self funded really, you know, the people
going in there to hunt them for getting the trophy,
the organization up there that are taking out excess numbers
to make sure they don't explode numbers wise, and it's
a healthy herd, and it's a good herd, and it's
looking after the bush, so I said of the wind wind,
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whichever way you look at it, because it's you know,
people are still getting to enjoy to go in there.
It's improving the habitat and the bush and the wildlife,
and it's taken out the pest at the same time,
all you know, not costing anyone any money. So I
think it's a great initiative. Well done, got it over
the line.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So you're heading out to the Bye Bye for the
last two days of season.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, no, we're going outside. Were twicked in between because
Saturday is meant to be absolute rubbish. So we've we've
kind of got a possibility of going into a momo
which is not the world's best momo to shootout, shootout of.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But come out as about the occasion, embrace it mate.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Ah, well, yeah, I'm getting hold so you don't.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like getting wet, join the club.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And then we've also got the option of sitting outside
in the a frame, which would be better shooting, but
again we might get wet. So considering I'm taking the kids,
we might just air on the caution. It might be
in the momo just for a nice warm cup of
tea or soup around ten o'clock, just to warm ourselves up.
But it looks fantastic at the moment, but it doesn't
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look great in the forecast.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Thanks very much for your time, Dave, boys appreciated.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Good to girl.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Thank you, Dave McGregor of South and Fishing Game. The
end of the duck hunting season twenty twenty six is
this weekend you're listening to the master Up. Next, let's
go down to the river era of South and catch
up with Jordi Eid Welcome back to the musterro and
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Hakanui Blondie. Is the music today? That song there Maria
come out about nineteen eighty eight, ninety nineteen ninety eight,
nineteen ninety nine, so a couple of years ago. Is
it always as a music now? Jordia ed joins us
next from the South proclaimed River Era of the South,
not self proclaimed. It is a river era of the South,
Mighty Riverton. Good afternoon, Jordi, How are.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
You yeah on good things?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Andy?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
How are you pretty good? As we look at a
I don't know the wind has them been too bad?
The forecast. I were talking a bit of nonsense over
Friday and Saturday. They seem to have peddled it back
a little bit. But look, it's July.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah no, it's will probably be a bit more moist
this year than last year. But you know, we've had
seventy old mills already for July and we only got
thirty last year. Definitely in the river here at the
south today, the sun's listening here and the grass is growing.
So yeah, I'll take it this winter. But I just
hope that this rubbish that we're going to get we
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don't get it in another six weeks time.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You're so temperatures eight point three today, so yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yeah, well that's right. I know a guy just down
the road here is measured on a dairy farm. They
got seventeen kilos a day for the winter for June,
so you know, do you famils will be doing thirty odds,
So yeah, we'll take that.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, the seasons all over the show, I mean people
were doing bayleadge at the end of May for goodness sake,
and then pretty much feeding out the next day. That
was a situation.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yeah, well, I've we scanned a couple of weeks ago,
and I put all my models back on grass to
sort of bring some of these covers down, you know,
to get them off before lemming. So you know we've
been under stopped and THELF having the dairy farm and
the system and gives them all fat. But you know
that grass growth that's been sort of since the rain
went to the US has just been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
What a problem to have.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yeah, I know it's a good problem to have. And
I mean this if this is global warming the South
and bring it on.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Now you're scanning figures, how did they go?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Pretty much fairly similar to last year? Yeah, we but
similar sort of dries. We're sort of oldnated. We few
triplets for more twins and less singles of more twins.
So I'll probably take that, probably since we've aught the
Jerry farms sort of trying to get a bit more
efficient sheep rather than having these triplets to the moon.
So yeah, I'll quite happily sort of take that eleven
percent triplets. It sort of makes it much more manageable
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and a pleasurable sort of a job if this last
few springs have been having so no, it seems to
be reasonably happy off it.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We're not.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
We're sort of twenty percent off what we used to
scan sort of fifteen years ago, which is, you know,
ridiculous when you start scanning in the twenties of triplets.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So triplets for you, nothing but a nuisance. Are tolerable?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Yeah, yeah, probably tolerable because we've got a sort of
having a the teft from the composite sheep. They've got
the ability to rear them. But at the same time,
you know, you've got those three lambs, they are definitely
slower grown. You've got the sort of april may well,
you know how much grass the animal's got to eat
to get to that far. I think it's you know,
I think the sheep's only born off two teeth, so
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you're far getting efficient. You trying to get those lambs
away January February rather than having that extra lamb on
it sort of starts complicating everything else.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
How long you've been using tear froms since.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Twenty twenty two, so yeah, so we've been sort of
dabbed with the Welshers and everybody else to us the
defrons and so no, I've done They've done well for
us over the years, and you know, I would have said,
they've probably turned into reasonably use a kear sheep for
us in their operation.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, there you go, Snowdy is a good plug for you.
Look the GDT, here's a good news story this week too,
corrected itself came up I think about one point five
percent until something similar to those figures after a number
of declines. That's pretty typical for this time of the season.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
They would imagine, Yeah, if you look back July and
August as often the declines there because they're matching, it
will spring summer production overseas maximize over there. And you know,
like I've been sort of get caught down the past
or fixing a favorit of production around now, and so
I've sort of been quite reserved the last two or
three years of how much you sort of fixed this
time of the year. You know, they came out nine
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to US thirty last week, and the talk was out
there to get it fixed at nine thirty and go
for gold. But you know, I was sort of bit
headed to look back and see what's happening because the
sort of the information I sort of gathered from that
going up is that Europe's starting to get quite dry,
which you know, and the States. So there's plenty of
milk out there, but there's just a bit uncertainty around
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the corner about if there's going to be much in
the next two or three months.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's just going to be interesting to see how this
transpires over the next couple of auctions, I suppose as
production starts ramping up, and let you say it's a
case of supply and demand. It's pretty much the minimal
point for New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah, well, I did see this auction had sort of
twice as much on it than the last couple so too.
So that was quite interesting fact for it to go
up when there was twice as much on it, or
you know, quite a bit more than what there's been previously.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And of course you look at the other flow on
costs on farm interesting as well, regarding the CPI Consumer
Price Index going up the way it has and being
driven by the fuel situation. Of course, the uncertainty with
the whole Iran scenario and the US and unfortunately down
here we've talked about it before, we're talking about it again.
It's not so much about fuel supply, it's just the
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price we're going to have to pay given that it's
now over four dollars a gallon in the States, which
is a driving factor too.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Yeah, and know we've just got to really, you know,
we're at the end of the chain was being a farmer,
and we've got to resort those costs, you know, not
the pkh on contracted prices up seventy dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I know.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
You we've been this sort of going into a better
six seventh season of dering now and you know we're
probably making more on an eight to fifty pay six
or seven years ago than we are now on a
nine to seventy just the fact of the costs of
how much of the costs have grown on the other
side of the leader.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's just inflation to a t I suppose.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Yeah, it is inflation to a t ye. And I
mean it's all about the trying to but level everything
out and get a bit in the right place, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So what's your focus at the moment, Just getting organized
for carving, landing still a wee way away, just carry
on doing what you do for the time of year.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Yeah, it is really the dairy fane. We've put protect
Gayson about a month ago, and we're going to collars
on the cow, so the collars on the heapers yesterday,
seeing what we can do a bit of technology down
there really and you know if having the auto draft
and gates and we're going to put another pin on that.
So there's a few sort of tools of that that
have been socio the winter and you're just getting everything
with the cows are away home next week. So it's
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the job done for me.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, Blake, and you're miss Christmas if you're not careful, Jordy.
But that's a story for a couple of months down
the loan. We think about it.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Oh definitely, yeah, I know that's right in July, so
we were you know, we're nearly sixty percent the way
through the year and yeah we've.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Got the stacks to look forward to next week. It's
our year, Jordy. Yet always appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, well I would watch the m on Friday down
the at Ripton and I don't know, yeah, a hole
myrest so that I'm always fashion stag supporder.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But obviously, jeez, you nearly needed your boots last week
because of the injuries.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Oh yeah, definitely a year but things have changed. But
I'm glad I wasn't hitting those things as the quite
heavy collisions. I don't think my body would handle that anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Thanks Jordy.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Jordy Reed based at the river Yere of the South,
which is Riverton. You're listening to the Muster. Up next
Matt Ward in the Beef and Lamb slot.
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Speaker 1 (28:40):
Matt Ward joins us this afternoon on the Muster and
the Beef and Lamb slot. Now we first got met
on the program when he was the winner of a
scholarship was Beef and Lamb, and that's going to be
the theme of air chat today. Good afternoon, Matt, how sings?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You're good? Yeah, everything's everything's taking along pretty good. You've
got me on twice in two weeks, mate, So I
don't know whether I'm getting sick of listen to my
own voice or your listeners. Probably definitely asked. So we'll
rap through this one pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, we keep doing this, we'll have a sponsor for
you short At least you keep pushing your brain. That's
all I can say it right, So, anyway, you're on today,
talking about the Kellogg's project and the likes that you
were involved with. Was PA for their New Zealand go
back to the nuts and balts of it, why'd you
put yourself forward?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, so I was actually I didn't end up putting
myself forward. To be fair, endy. I seen I seen
when they advertised for it a couple of years ago,
and to be fear, I sort of looked at it
as I share, it's probably something, and I wouldn't I
wouldn't nominate myself for I'm not. I wasn't really into
putting myself out there for something like that. And at
the time we were getting here, we're getting here, fum
(29:49):
here getting a rental appraisal done on it by Dallas
and Michelle Lucas. And then after that they ended up
nominating me for it, which like, I'm bloody grateful for her.
I mean, when they asked me if they if they
could nominate me, I was like, shit, even that's still
not really my not my gem. But yeah, for what
I've managed to get out of it has been has
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been massive. So that's been really good.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Well, you're just setting like your typical south Under backwards
and coming forwards.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, yeah, and it's sort of I don't know. I've
definitely learned, especially through the whole Callogg process, like just
putting yourself out there. Even Genie, if you told me
two years ago I would have been talking to you
on the radio, I would have turned you straight down.
You start about trying to put yourself out there and
probably being confident, and you probably learned to be a
bit more confident within myself too, has been one of
(30:40):
the big learnings I've got out of it now.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
The interview process after you got nominated. But what actually
went on there? What was it scary from your side
of it, because, like you say, doing public relations, public
speaking and everything, it's not everyone's cap of tea.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
It was nerve wrecking because i'd my mind's view was
west clear turned from Beef and Lamb and Met McCrae,
and to have a well, Cleve's pretty good, but to
have a pretty staunched window supporter like Met sitting.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I was about to say that given this week, it's
pretty tay.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, I wasn't sure how that was going to go,
but it was actually really good. And then out of
that whole process, I was I was really lucky to
have met Met was like a bit of a mentor
for the first year after winning the scholarship. So yeah,
I've got to know him really well and he's put
the window stuff aside his bloody good feel and he's
been quite handy to have on my side too, So
(31:33):
that's all worked out pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Now you get funding as well. When you get the scholarship, ma'am,
what do you put it towards? How do you decide
how are you going to allocate?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah? I actually found that quite tricky, to be fair.
I at seven and a half grand and well, one
it's a lot of money, and two it's a pretty
big honor to have to have money like that to
go towards something, and I really didn't want to screw
it up. And I sort of thought a big thing
for me was if I'm going to go do something,
(32:04):
I'm going to go do something I wouldn't have done
if it was me putting myself out there to do it,
if you like, if you get that, So I sort
of thought about whether do it, whether I was going
to do a rabobank one of the Rabobank courses or
look at like a discussion group to get into or.
But then I sort of landed on Kellogg's because I
(32:24):
was I never would have done that anyway, so why
not put myself out there? And like I had to
apply for Kelloggs and luturally enough scraped in.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
So regarding the research on your chosen subject, just go
over the what that was again.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, So part of the Kellogg process was doing like
a six month research project and then we had to
ride a report to finish that off and present the report.
And I chose to do mine on the use of
terminal size in an air sheep farming systems and just
sort of dig into whether they're getting utilized to their
(33:03):
full potential and ended up falling down the rabbit hole
of looking into sort of like breeding their best use
to get good maternal rams and then everything else going
to a terminal and seeing how far you can push
that ratio out. Yeah, I just sort of learning through
(33:24):
that whole process. Like there's a lot of people try
to get a heap of say Romney replacements, for example,
and you're only going to pick maybe fifty or sixty
percent of them, then that good Romney replacement just ends
up going to the works. Whereas if she could be
a good terminal side lamb. You're getting that better, better
weight gain on her. Yeah, and then that's ends up
going as a better lamb to the work. So through
(33:46):
the whole process worked out around like you can sort
of push it to like a fifty to fifty ratio
and then through done a few gross margins on it
and worked out like weaning time. It wasn't too much
of a difference, but it was after weaning that that
feed that we got that extra feed we had growing
because we're getting more lambs away sooner ended up meaning
(34:09):
we were putting i think from memory, like a one
point six kg of carcass weight on on air lambs
by the end of the season with more terminals in
the system then then less. So that's sort of where
the big, the big game changer came from it.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So the big thing for you, the reward I suppose,
was putting yourself out there and getting out of your
comfort zone and it worked.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, it was then, And it was like even through
the whole Kellogg process, I remember sitting up at Lincoln
in the first day and had that that what's it
syndrome called where you feel.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Like you're not not Stockholm and pasta syndrome and pasta.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
That's the yeah, yeah, where you feel like you don't
belong there, like we all got. We're all send in
their bios about each of their sounds, and they sent
them out the week before we all met, and I
remember reading them like what these people are well and
above just a little wee sheep farming from moredern Mainz
and then going right through the whole process, and then
(35:07):
the last day of Kellogg's they got us to reintroduce
ourselves and the way everyone had sort of listed themselves
in confidence, and there was that feeling like you actually
belong belong there. Yeah, that's probably definitely the biggest thing
I got got out of it.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I've just got a question down here from clear
actually thanks Claire outcomes of being part of the scholarship
that goes on to say, obviously your delights to be
part of a Southern South Island Farmer Council because of
the epic Christmas gatherings. I'm going by that. Does Graham
Evans do karaoke?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
No, I didn't hear, haven't heard Graham sing yet, But
that's definitely one of the big positives I've got out
of it is like getting to know that. I got
to know the Farmer Council a weave it before we
during that whole process of doing my Kellogg and then
and then was that October last year I ended up
getting voted on to the Farmer Council and that's been Yeah,
(36:06):
it's been good fun. It's sort of and I say
every time, like I'm not a hundred pesosential what I'm
offering to them, but sitting in a room full of
a lot of smart farmers from South and then South Totigo,
like I'm definitely getting a hell of a lot out
of it. Yeah, and then going away and a we
Christmas party. You can't definitely can't complain of that either,
can you.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So what are your words of encouragement for people who
are on the fence about applying.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Well, I just see it's sort of one of those
opportunities like take the just have a red red hot
crack at it and at the end of the day,
there's nothing to lose from applying, putting yourself out there
and probably a big thing to anyone listening, like you
can nominate people as well, so that you can have
(36:51):
your farm manager or anyone anyone around. If you know
of a good young person who's between the age of
twenty one, and you'd have to look online to see
what the ages are, but the bit of experience and
wanting to put themselves forward, then you can nominate people
to really try to push them into the next step
of their career development as well. I think that's I
(37:14):
think that's the key. All day.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Your details are online, the beef and lambs. So it
just finally we'll talk a bit about Saturday. You're going
to have your lucky head on. Jesus looks like a
cab driver from Brooklyn wearing that thing.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm too busy, too busy, trying to keep my feet
running water on all the time. Sessially after Saturday.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Shut.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
I was on and off there all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
What happens on Saturday? What give us an app to
give us a score?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Oh, I'm not going to be it's going to be close.
I'm going to go sure, what am I going to go?
Twenty five to edend? We're going to go down there
and ruin the parade. But when like Jesus is going
to take every single little ounce of what we've got
to get up over them. The reason why they've well,
while they're the best Division one team going and what
(38:05):
I've been the best for a long time. And they've
got a way of winning fine, Like you just need
to look at the history. They've got a way of
winning finals, especially at home. And if it's going to
be a wet track, yeah, we've got We've got a
lot in front of us. But we don't have anything
to lose going down there, which we are. We're quite
excited about. We don't have too much pressure or anything. We've
just got to go down and get the job done.
(38:27):
Go awave it better than what we've done both times
we've played them this year, and it's going to be
a hell of a game.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You've just got to trust the processes. Better leave it there, Matt,
Thanks for your time. Is always good luck on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Yeah cool, Thank you, Indy, Matt Ward The Beef and
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Speaker 1 (38:50):
Nathan burdens up next to wrap up. Welcome back to
the Muster. Ourson sporting guru is Nathan Burdon out of
him for Cargill Greetings, Nathan, how are you.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, I'm very good mate, Thank you. Yeah, I'm very good. Unfortunately,
probably a bit healthier than the than the shelf of
the Stags depth at the moment.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Oh my god, this is just a catastrophe. It was
still a week out from the MPC and there it's
almost a case of last man standing in some positions.
This does not look good.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
And normally we've got so much hoping ambition at the
stage of the season. Just a week and a half
or so out of the start of the NPC and
king off was Stagg Day and all that sort of thing.
And I really feel for the for the new coaches,
especially head coached scottyd who is pouring his heart and
sol into this job. But just a series of polemical
(39:45):
sort of events is meant that the Stag that they're
really scratching around for a backline for this final preseason
game against Counties. And yeah, and in terms of putting
together you know, really strong twenty three for Stag Day.
You know they'll be hoping that I pick up many
(40:05):
or any injuries against Counties.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Is there a realistic chance that Jack Taylor goes as
part of his extended a b squed in South Africa.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
At the moment, it feels like the worst secret in
Southern if not New Zealand rugby. So I mean it
would it would be fantastic I was reading earlier. I mean,
Brady mckellis has been named he's been named captain of
Canterbury for the MPC camp because he played two teas
(40:36):
for the All Blacks last year. So obviously the press
has been a bit of a word that he's not
necessarily the next cab off the ranks. So does that
point for them taking a younger player on this tour?
And you know, I think, I mean, I mean, Jack
will be just an outstanding tour. As souldimension, he'd be
a great man to have him on that potentially might
not see a lot of rugby, So you want someone
(40:57):
who's just going to be there that's sort of soaked it,
soaked it all up and learn and he'll be a
great man in that role. So it'd be really good
for Southern rugby to have a homegrown player. He's come
through the ranks and done everything right. But he's also
by the same token so early on in his career
(41:17):
that if if this isn't his opportunity, then his time
will certainly come.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
So what does this mean for the Stags a week
out from the MPC. I mean, you always live and
hope being a Southern supporter, that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, and it's probably I did a bit of a
did a bit of an exercise earlier this morning, and
it's not a probably not a stray or even silly
air comparison, but I looked at the final sort of
starting fifteen that played in that terrible game against North
Harbor in the final round of the NPC last year,
(41:50):
metched that up against the starting fifteen that will playing
against the counties in this final preseason game. We had
three in the there's three in the Ford pack, so
me s Seawn went the and and and ali ahor
in the in the second row and then and there's
only one member of the back line next year is
the only player who who'll be appearing in both of
(42:11):
those games. So just sort of a turnover between the seasons,
but also be the injuries that they've got in the
squad at the moment, So not an ideal situation, almost
sort of starting from scratch for those for the Stags
coaching team.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
The Commonwealth games getting underway in Glasgow. This is really
flight under the radar.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It's it's an accurate discussion, and I do I sort
of feel for the event. It already had sort of
an interesting I guess position in the in the sporting landscape,
and I guess a bit of a battle for relevance.
I x in let's go for the for the twenty
(42:54):
fourteen games and helped cover those, and you know, it
was it was great to be here in Glasgow. Is
a great see and they did a great job of
hosting them. I'm sure they'll do it. They'll do sort
of a game with these sort of paid down only
ten sports on a roster. It is a tough one.
It's sort of happening and not great house for us.
(43:16):
But we do have a few south ends in action,
so I'm sure there'll be a few people sort of
setting the alarm clock and making sure they can follow
the action.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
The standard ten sports from the usual fifteen to twenty.
You've got athletics, boxing, weightlifting, judo, artistic gymnastics, track, cycling, balls, swimming, netball,
and that boomer of a sport in New Zealand three
by three basketball.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, and you know there's I
think are targeting thirty five medals across the New Zealand
team and compare that with fifteen medals that they got
in Colin Birmingham, so with that paid them roster. Yet
we've got plenty of South and there's an action Julia
(43:58):
O'Connell making Commonwealth Games debut section at sixty seven years young,
she's the oldest member of the New Zealand team competing
in the Power of Peers women's events, so it will
be really interesting to see how she goes. We've of course,
we've got the four Southern Steel players who helped the
make up that Silver Ferns team, including Kate Efferon coming
(44:21):
off the back of an outstanding Australian campaign and being
selected as vice captain of the Silver Ferns. We've got
Tory Morby who's ranked third in the Commonwealth in javelin
at the moment, so a very strong Metal prospect in
the athletics. And then of course got the men's endurance
squad with Tom Sexton, Nick Kergazoo and young Marshall Earra
(44:44):
would sob a good chance particularly in the team to suit.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Is this the case of make or break for the
Calm Games. Remembering this was supposed to be howd in
reasional Victoria Australia, this Australia this year, but they just
came out from the get go and said, look, we
can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Ye I know the Glads regions have said, well this,
this is a financial model that that is actually a
lot more sustainable and it might be one that other
countries in the Commonwealth could go well, yep, we will
put our hands up to be able to do one
that is that is more like this, more relevant for us,
more financially sustainable. So maybe this is the maybe this
(45:22):
is the way forward, or maybe this is sort of
the death now for the event, it will be interesting
to see. I guess what sort of exposure or attention
it can grab over the next over the next few weeks,
and yet I'll probably put it to know how things
are going to go and go forward.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Just quickly to wrap up now, it's a situation with
Netbulle New Zealand and the potential for no aims and
premiership next year. This is just getting murky.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, and we're reading about these the franchises that have
most recently I guess been hearly propped up by net
New Zealand and we're being polled have been hold that
contracts for their sort of coaching staff, backroom staff can't
won't be honored past the end of end of this month.
(46:10):
So yeah, it's it's hard to find a positive story
out of out of franchise. Netball at the moment thinks
there are things that just we're waiting for something really
good to come out in terms of what next year
is going to look like being on ten to hooks
for three years really in terms of getting a strong
broodcasting deal that can prop that Popetoi sharp. But yea,
(46:32):
the signs aren't great.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Nathan Burden always good to chat on The Master.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Lovely thanks mate.
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(47:15):
well I'll right too.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Here we'll go there.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
And how did it go on again? Pgg Wright some
presents stock selling action that it curred at the chaut
and sale. Yeah, this morning with Dave Morrison on the
ground to give us an update on prices. Good afternoon, Teagle,
How do we go.
Speaker 7 (47:27):
Doing any Yeah, lucky, another beautiful day today in sunny childhood.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Prices are pretty good.
Speaker 7 (47:32):
Just the best of prime names, the best prime rames
sort of tow seventy to ninety. That's the very topy end,
midium prime James, sort of fifty just with the light
of commission prime names sort of around there, sort of
one teen down into the ram section. Andy, you know,
I'm sorry, got a day, the best of rams having
(47:54):
twenty what's the light of rams around at fifty to
fifty five dollars? Limited the buying power there, and the
Mutton Mutton was pretty good. The best to use, Yeah,
very heavy use, sort of two thirty two forty million US,
sort of one eighty five to two hundred of the
lighter conditioned news. The end is hurvering around it's one
hundred and hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, probably traveled with
(48:15):
today on those lighter us into the store lambs. Yeah,
good times, gadding store lands. Best of store lambs are
sort of one ninety two hundred milliumsort of one seventy
five to one eighty and the smaller of the store
ends sort of one forty one fifty SI market certainly
back a week, but on previous weeks. That wraps up
the child to me, pour downy.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
What's happening as far as clearing sales, table clearing stales
and we've.
Speaker 7 (48:39):
Got yes, we've got one on Monday, Jamis Mallott's on
Monday at White Kicker one thirty on Monday, just outside
of White Kiker Township fifteen hundred. Robby used there to
the text for rams. So yeah, yeah, looking for the
good news skin well use coming along at one video
on Monday
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