August 3, 2026 • 46 mins
Andy Mur talks to Grant McMaster, Ben Bell, Ben Dooley, Marnie Clark, Richard White and Sam Riley.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanilli. I'm
Andy Miller. We're here until two this afternoon, and the
show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. We'll come
along on a cold, cool afternoon here and Gord. Ironically,
the temperatures reading about six degrees at the moment, which
is the high for this afternoon. But as far as
the snow, it sounds as though like Jamie mcguy in
(00:30):
the country talking about it before being a towny problem
this afternoon A suddenly here and Gore. First thing this morning,
just on daylight, we had snow flurries that went through
to about nine am, but after that a lot of
it's disappeared. If it was about it's just a cool,
crisp afternoon, but we'll talk about it surely in the forecast.
Overnight lows are going to be pretty cold and a
lot of black ice will be a resolver. Is that
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nonetheless has a happy vibe for a Tuesday. Ben Morrison's
five Days Forecast with twin farm t from and soft text.
The proof is in the progeny t from dot co
dot Inza and those temperatures as such a Tuesday, we're
going to see snowshollers of breezy, sour westerlies in a
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high of six. Tomorrow partly cloudy with calm variable wins
minus five and seven. Thursday sunshine of variable wins once
again minus four and eight. Friday cloudy, calm, variable wins
a little bit warmer. That's such a thing in this
situation one and nine. And on Saturday sunshine of variable
winds zero and eleven. So it is getting rather call
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over the next couple of nights. So temperatures to hand
Clinton five point two, Northern South and five point five.
Riverton's still at eight. It's not bad, tane Our five
point four, Titoro six one to four point nine, and
Woodlands at six point one. Grant Disaster McMaster upper closeper
in station gets us underway as he normally does on
(01:56):
a Tuesday, followed up with Good District Mayor Ben Bow
talking counsel, amount of emations and yeah, what works from
Ben's point of view, from a good district point of
view as well. I mean, this is something that is
coming to a head very very shortly. So we've had
a lot of the MEAs and over the past week
or so, and being concludes that anyway, so interesting to
see what he's got to say about that. And Ben
(02:17):
Dooley as well, all the Ben's this afternoon talks about
amalgamation and why he thinks, Yeah, he just thinks Gorney
stays separate from a marriage with the Macago of the
South and District as such. Marty Clark of Ethel really
good at trapshooting, currently over in Illinois, and that is
where we catch up with hervis afternoon. She's over there
(02:39):
doing a pretty cool trip, a trip of a lifetime,
you could say. And that Richard White and Waite Tani
Young Farmers joins us. Sam Riley a PGG writes and
gives a stock sale report from Lawn Bought. And then
we'll crank into it with Disaster grabbing Master Farms on
(03:11):
the edges of Lake Walker, Tippo at Klosper and Station
and we catch up weekly. Thanks for a team at
Arbi Rural Batman and Koba's tearing Gore. Good afternoon, Disaster.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Good afternoon, Handy, Good afternoon, everybody. Well I'm just fifteen
k's up the lake today from close burn up at
Mount Crichton, giving Phil McMurray a hands of scanners. You
so scanning's just started up around this area. Probably we're
getting close to Lamb and further down south shortly. But yeah,
morning scanning started off. We'll look dark this morning and
(03:42):
a few stifts of snow as I headed away, But
the days turned out all right. It's a cold breeze,
but the sun is out and yeah, the snow hasn't
come to anything, so I know, just looking at the
at the forecast. So later on in the week where
we're not getting the temperate are going to be very
very very cold. But yeah, good today and no mind you,
(04:02):
he's got covered yards so you wouldn't want any mode
of them. But us went through in good conditions acan well,
so yeah, let's hope for nature keeps for biting.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So no snow on the hills or anything up in
the basin that you can see there.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There was a it went around last night over and
Nicholas wall to peek through there up behind us just
the skiff went through. But yeah, it's pretty much well
it's sort of going now, but still quite a bit
of snow further back which has been hanging around. But
in saying that day morning, so that's always always a
(04:37):
bit of a bonus, but yeah, pretty cold, pretty cold
all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So it's just August being August for hopefully, touch Why
do we have a September to remember?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, exactly, And I just think, you know, to last
year and memories a great thing, isn't it. Of course
it's not. But I did good August last year, and
then we got that rain at the end of it,
you know, four hundred miles over a couple of weeks,
and it just kept going. So hopefully it won't be
quite like that. I mean, we had another thirty two
miles of rain on Friday night here, so at least
(05:09):
we've been we've been getting a bit of rain, whereas
this time last year we've gone through from the autumn
basically right through the winter without any rain, including August
until we got to the end of August, and then
it didn't stop. So maybe we've had enough just to
keep the averages being averages.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So I'm closer, and as such, you're pretty much in
a holding position waiting for scanning. And let's just remember
your season. You're about four weeks differential compared to everybody
else with your lambing dates and the lakes.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, probably over, we know, we won't start lambing until
about the eighth of October, so yeah, yeah, we'll scan. Well.
The us are still going around the hell blocks. I
just shifted a mild yesterday with mixed age years and
you know, they're certainly utilizing all the feed and they're
looking all right. The beam I have have been around
another area, so we're sort of everything's heading closer to
(05:58):
the wall shed now and we'll share on about the
twentieth and then scan about the twenty third hopefully. But
you know, things, you know, things are looking pretty good
with the blocks have been needed out quite well, and
they'll come away good in the spring if we get
a good spring. But you know, I think the best
thing is that the sheeper and god Neck and which
(06:21):
is good and the hog it's over over the hills
are they are utilizing all their crops, So that's good.
There we have. We're actually carving at the moment. So
the heifers that we bought in as we do every year,
they were aied, but just a bit of a lack
of communications between the agent and the manager and didn't
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realize they were actually starting to through carved series. I've
been going a week, but they're a eyed. So twenty
five from there we've had thirteen born and that should
be all tied it up by next week. So the
carbs a bouncing around and and blocked with a bit
of shelter.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Thank goodness, that's just what you want in August. Anyway,
I've told your time and again you not let us
say the beam of these days. It's a development squad.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
All right, for the bomb squad should be born.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Uh fair, call on that, hey Gren, you want to
touch on deer numbers as well?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, well we're gonna you know, there's deer a rampant
and here I am quite and you know they've they've
got a bigger problem with fellow deer than we have.
It's probably a bit warmer, but you know, the helicopter's
coming to these places and you know, shooting sort of
two hundred deer and and around the places to try
and a bit of containment. But I was reading in
(07:39):
the in the Farmers Weekly about the Game Animal Control
and I don't actually know what it existed, but it
is a government department. And I think you said, who's Minister.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
James Mega, Yeah right, and Minister for Hunting and Fishing.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, for hunting and fishing, and so Wapod and
Seeker have been given the given the title. I've heard
of significant interest and so the Whappity obviously in children
and the seacart and the commens in the National Parks
and the they're the first heards to have this, so
it's basically they're going to be I guess it's what
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the Wappity you know, that's always been, that's always been
in the National Park and I mean these these there
are introduced, but I guess it's just controlled culling, which
I guess they've always tried to do with the Waverty
and but the saying, you know, that's just there's you know,
the scientific assessments of what needs to be cold and
(08:38):
what doesn't. And it just brings me to think, you know,
of all the areas within the country now and whether
the a Caigo south and where everything you read on
the west coast, you know, the d numbers are just
out of control, so to be you know, sort of
having a culling of deer that have been introduced warming
(09:00):
under juice, but as in the Wappaty and the Seeker
as opposed to the ones that are just you know,
coming off conservation land and spilling out from that and
to productive farmland. It's sort of it doesn't seem quite right.
I think we need to be more proactive with the
pigs there, possums, everything like that. We go, you know,
(09:23):
somehow we need to get more money to put into that,
and we're sort of spoken about it before, you know,
with the wild and pine now, Karon, I went up
to the Hermitage on Thursday and Friday, we had a
voucher to go there. At Mountain Crockett was absolutely poured
going in there on the Thursday, couldn't see the front
of the car let alone the mountain. But on Saturday
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morning it was a beautiful day. The snow was right
there and you can see everything. But you know, iconic
landscapes and there and those wild and pines while they're
trying to get in with dozers and what have you.
You know, just from twice all through on all that
land that you know that's wouldn't call it crime real
estate as far as farming goes, but it's worth nothing
now with all those trees on it. So you know,
(10:05):
we look at we look at the weed problems we've got,
we've got and I guess them Olsworth, So you know,
it's a different situation now, maybe hopefully Nika who we'll
be able to get in and spend some money on
weeds because there's a lot of them and a lot
of other other places. So I don't know, you have
these areas of national significance with these beer numbers, but
(10:27):
what about you know, the air productive farmland that's also
getting decimated by equally their deer coming out of state
forests and other conservation areas. And who's putting the bill
for that?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And that's the argument the ecological disaster regarding the pins
We've talked about a time and before, but driving to
through Raised Junction on the way to Miller's Plat at
the weekend and all that farmland producing farmland, it's gone
into carbon farming. It's a case of don't hate the player,
but hate the game. It's just unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I've never seen I don't think i've seen trees crow
as quick as through that Lawrence Beaumont area, and I
know firsthand, you know that's bringing a lot of problems
with pigs are one of the big areas now that
are coming out and decimating some of those places and
one of the sponsors of the show their property. So
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you know, the more that go in, the more it happens.
And they're saying in this article about you know, you
can't leave it up to the individual, you know, Weekend
Warrior Hunter, but a lot of those people can't get
access to places anyway, and it's just not feasible to
that many deer. I mean, it is worse now. The
deer population is worse now than it was in the seventies,
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late sixties, seventies when we had the Great Venison Recovery going.
So you know, we thought that was bad enough, but
people are saying it's worse than that now.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Absolutely. Hey, good on your ground. Will catch up next week.
Southern Charity indoor charity dog trails just around the corner
as well.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yep, well we've port on that and keep warm down there.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Grant McMaster thanks to RB Rural. Ben Bell's up next
to cor Mayor. Welcome back to the muster. Ben Bell
(12:23):
is good district Mayor. We heard from Rob Scott yesterday
and Grant Dermody last week from an Inbercagal Council perspective
regarding this council amalgamation which is just coming to the fore.
It's not far. I think the August the ninth is
when basically councilors have got to have their ducks in
a row and giving an indication to central government what
(12:44):
they want to happen regarding this or it's going to
be the decision will be made for them. Ben Bell, welcome,
good to chat, Yes, good to chat.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'm excited to be on the muster.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, good to have you in mate. Look, and there's
plenty going on at the Baby. You don't need me
to tell you that, but I suppose straight off the
bat regarding these council mergers, from a good perspective, there's
quite a few things to entail right there is. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I mean, we've got a complicated process down here, more
complicated than the rest of the country is.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm sure that your two.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Previous guests would have already explained. We have the head
start process, which has been put on us by a
central government three months to come up with a bit
of a plan, voluntary process. But if you don't do it,
then you be forced into something else, so called the backstop.
And then we have the local government process going on
as well, which was initiated by Southern District Council about
what eighteen months ago now, So we won't actually fall
(13:38):
into the backstop. If we don't do a head start,
we'll fall into the Local Government Commission process and then
if that's not successful, then we'll fall into whatever the
backstop ends up being.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Do you agree with the process the head start? Oh?
Just in general the amalgamation process that we're doing.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Umm.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Look, I think it's a worthy conversation to have.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think, you know, watching it unfold up and down
the country, especially here, I think it's a massive distraction
from the jobs that were ultimately elected to do, which
is in the first essence, you know, try and keep
rates down and so you can serve our community. And
I think it's been a really big distraction from delivering
on that. Absolutely, we need to have the conversation. I
(14:19):
probably would have expected a bit more.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Unity around the place.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
There certainly hasn't been in a unity in Southend and
we saw that with Three Waters as well. You know,
people were in and then they're out, and they're up
and they're down. So it's hard to be elected for
your district and then try and hold hands with all
the areas that you went't elected to deserve.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So it feels like the goalposts are being moved on
a consistent basis.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
At the moment. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And I mean even with the head start, you have
no idea whether the government's even going to say yes.
So you might peer up with all your buddies, come
up with this amazing plan and then still get shot down.
You might do none of that and also get forced
to work with them. So it's a very uncertain time
in local gunment. Although I feel like I've been saying
that for the last four years.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So the Gore District, what are they thinking as far
as amalgamation? Are they for one unitary council or going
into into two modes?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think I think we've as a council kind of
acknowledged that the Gore District is probably the loser in
all of these situations. You know, we have it pretty
good at the moment having our own district and our
own voice. There are downsides to both options that are
on the table, whether it's a loss of local voice
having to merge with the city or the financial implications
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of splitting a regional council on half. So it's been
really tough. If we look at the there's been a
bit of a petition locally and also we had a
survey and both of those have overwhelmingly supported the two
unitary option. So it will be interesting to see tomorrow
at our council, meaning kind of how councilor's process that,
along with the modeling that's out there and any other considerations.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I guess I.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Can feel for the for the rural people, and you
see it in Otiga as well, that fear of being
merged with a city, especially by force.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Queenstown.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that was surprising altogether.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I wasn't expecting that at all, but up and down
the country you've seen it. Rural councils are banning together
to put in something just so they don't get absorbed
by their local city. I think most metros would quite
happily absorb everyone around them, but ultimately that sucks away
the voice from from the royal sector.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know, counselors have been weighing up.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I mean, my mind changes probably on the daily of
what I think is the best option. I know that
counselors certainly do. It's been an absolute will wind of
information and opinions as well. So yeah, we'll really just
have to see what comes up with in the day.
I guess the comfort that we have is that if
we make no decision, we fall into the local government
(16:53):
commission process, which is much longer and much more rigorous
and really picks apart the different options and really how
community understand them a lot more.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yourself, Rob Scott, Tom Campbell and Jeremy mcfail, have you
sat down in a room and tried to knot things out?
Is that possible?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
We we have and to not much success. That's probably
the way was what was a stickler? I don't I
don't really, I don't want to. I don't want to
sound off on my other mayors.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I guess there's there's very strong opinions and some some
mayors who are quite unwilling to change in their views.
And that's probably the crux of it, right, is that
you have a mayor who's or a council that's really
strong on one option and a mayor who's very very
strong on another option.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And and from my from my view and I.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Certainly hope my council's view, we don't see a huge
benefit in either. But we're happy to work with with
either and try and figure out what's the best for
our community.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Is this a case of community for the wider Gore
region and just Southland in general, or let's just say
the whole country because this has happened in a bum's
rush that everybody's just kind of got their heads in
the sands about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I think a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I mean the people that I talk to out in
the community, they kind of go, well, why are.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You doing all of this? Is it to save money?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And I go, well, you won't really save any money,
you know, a malgamations are expensive and like the best
modeling that I've seen, you'd save maybe three percent over
ten years, which isn't a whole lot. That's and that's
a lot of the questions that are being asked with me,
why are we doing this? Why don't we just keep
it the same? And I don't really have a good
answer for that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Because sorry, mate. The reason this was implemented was that
the last elections, and you'll be aware of this, two
hundred councilors and mayors around the country were elected under
post and people just sick a week from the wheat
and chaff being put.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
In yeah, but voter apathy only gets worse.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
We've seen that in Auckland, like voter epathy got significantly
worse after the super city amalgamation. You know, Gore has
has one of the highest voter two outs within the country.
If you if you take the council that you have
now and uh whirdled that down to three councilors, I'd
imagine that your voter apathy would increase and you get
a lot of people who wouldn't stand again. So, yeah,
(19:22):
if it's gonna it's it's probably not gonna involve increase
voter turnout. It's probably not going to save you a
whole lot of money. It is that question of why
are we doing it?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Is it fear that government's just going to.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Push us together? I would I would assume so. And
even you know, amplified in the rural sector of being
pushed into a city that they're going to completely lose
their voice, and I think that's where a lot of
the fear comes from.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Can Gore afford to do this.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
That's a good question. I think we can.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean, we've got we've definitely got the deck capacity
to do an amalgamation. Same with you know our partners,
or pretend your partners have deck capacity to do it
as well.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I guess the.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Numbers just start pretty and amalgamation comes with a lot
of risk, right, you know, three percent is best case
scenario from the modeling that we've seen, and we still
need some more independent modeling to figure that out. But
the Auckland super City amalgamation that blew out in costs,
you know, they were an extra I think was half
half a billion dollars over what they projected. So if
your best case scenario is only a small saving, what's
(20:24):
your worst case scenario right now?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
In the recent times? Hey, thanks for coming in studio
this afternoon and hear all the best you've got to
be adding you're going to be earning your dinner for
a couple of nights, I'd.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Say absolutely, it's gonna be a big week.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
With the starve of Welcome back to the Muster. Van
Morrison is the music that song their moon Dance. You
can swap that out for snow dance. A lot of
the province has been wait, wake up this morning with
the white stuff on the ground, But this will just
mean frost will occur for the next couple of nights
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and projected overnight are going into the minus four minus
five breakers, and just be foe warned around that and
your activities in the morning. Ben Dooley Farms just out
of Windom, Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer. Good a dells good,
here we go on, pretty good. How's how's everything out
your neck of there was just a little bit damp
on top now.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, well, I get the feeling. We've had a bit
of snow overnight, but none of it's lay and I'm
sure people understand what that's like. For some reason, snow
makes things extra wet, but it does disappear quick enough,
So just out dealing with that and yeah, yeah, hopefully
things do start to drawing up soon.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
The only saving grace is there was no windshill in
Gore anyway. It was just dead still. And that's the
worst thing is anybody knows at this time of year
when you're working with animals, is when you get that
breeze with it.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, absolutely what we think about at a laving time.
But even the adult life stock they still feel a cold,
don't they.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, shure, everybody's getting into carving as well. You know,
it's it is short and sharp. That's the saving grace
around all this, so pretty much for you guys. You're
on the can down to Lemming.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yep, yep. No, when the crops are all disappearing, I've
got I think I've got five breaks left for the hoggits.
I've got one more of the use on their last
break now and another mob have three breaks left to go,
and then that's all the crop's done, which is a
great feeling. Cat will be in the feed pad til
the end September, hopefully, see how that goes. But yeah,
just just going through the process now. We're hoping to
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pre lamb the early is yesterday and then again today.
We might get them this afternoon, but just with the
moisture that's around or sort of keep putting it off.
But yeah, if we don't get it done today, it'll
have to be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So any hoping. I mean it's almost like a race.
See he can get the tractor into the panic first
in some places. Are you are you of that mindset?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
No? Look, I've always been one to get in and
what a lot of people would say very early, far
too early, whatever they want to say. My take on
it is when the paddock is dry, enough to get
in there and do I want to get in there
and do one rip, just wrap it up and open
it up. And what I've found that does, it's got
to be properly dry enough to do it. What that
does is mean that when you come back to it,
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when you have got time to do it, when the
ground conditions are right, you're already halfway there because that
ground has been opened up and it's had time to
dry out deep deeper down, and you know, you can
actually work with it. And when it does rain, it
doesn't get sticky and stay that way for a week.
You know, you can have rain on a paddic and
then you know, six, eight, twelve hours later, sometimes you
can be back in there doing stuff. But no, I'm
(23:24):
not an advocate of going too soon, just as soon
as it's practical, depending what else you've got going on
on far.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Now we are your grasscovers looking, bearing in mind that
it has been a little bit of growth over the
past few weeks, although that'll be knocked on the head
for the next couple of days.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah. No, Well, the way the Swedes were this year,
we went on crop a week earlier, so we had
just about everything on on the twenty third of May,
it was, and that's put us in a pretty bloody
good position there. So we're on a week earlier and
coming off a pretty similar time to normal, possibly just
a week later with one more Yes, So no grasscovers
are exceptional, although we are in that situation now where
(24:00):
I've got quite a few paddocks that's sort of you know,
two and a half three thousand cover, and if you
do a half grazing on them, they're never that great
to lamb on. So just juggling what the best thing
is to do there. I think what I'm doing is
grazing them down hard, and then when we spread out,
we will spread out that paddicck sheep and the paddock
beside it, because it'll still have like an eighteen hundred
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twenty two hundred cover, and then give it a chance
to grow before we fire the sheep back in there
just a few days before they lamb on the twelfth
of September. So really good. But yeah, just just that
having to try and manage it, to try and get
the best out of it, I guess ben.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I've been speaking to all the mayors in the Southern
region on Southend anyway, over the past week regarding these
council amalgamations, this is all coming to a head pretty
much next week. What do you make of it? I mean,
you're a rural vote, you're a rural voter. Your rating
system is going to be different to what they experience
and a v cargo for example, what do you make
(24:55):
of it?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, Look, I think it's a good process. Well, I
don't know about the process South. I think it is
good that something is happening. A lot of this has
been brought on by regional councils, and I'm not just
talking about environments South and but around the country, extending
their scope a fair bit further than a lot of
people would say that should be, you know, making life
(25:16):
hard for a lot of people. I guess you'd say,
I think I heard Pam. You'll talk about that yesterday
there with the when they read it on the floodbanks
and stuff, and they've done their thing and they're just
not fit for purpose anymore. So the a process has
to happen. Whether the process that's happening is the right
one or not, I don't know, but we're there and
we're going to work with it. So Yeah, no, Look,
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I'm a really big advocate of having to a unitary
authorities in South and having a southern district and in
a Viicago city. So fingers crossed Gore District Council do
side with that, but we'll see what happens there. But yeah,
I just I just get really concerned if we go
to one great, big council that the money is just
going to funnel to the city. And I've got reasonably
(25:57):
strong reason to believe that will happen. I don't want
to pay for the en of Cargo City Museum, and
I'm sure the people looking for Cargo don't really want
to pay too much of their roading either, so bridge
maintenance and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, I
say keep the money where it came from. Let's have
two councils, and yeah, go from there.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This has been forced into the councils, though you can
understand them being frustrated regarding the process. Chris Bishop's given
pretty much zero leading. But because it's election year, it's
all got to get underway.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent, and yeah, by all means it
is an election year. It is being pushed through before
that happens. I do appreciate that, but these things they
need to happen, and sometimes the best way to do
it is just just tearing the band out off and
make it happen. I don't know that this is one
of those situations, but like I say, it's what we've
got to work with, so let's just make it happen.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Do you actually have faith that this is going to
improve facilities in the south as far as facilities.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I don't know. I can't see it making things worse.
Let's put it that way. There's a hell of a
duplication happens a lot of people when they're trying to
do things around the countryside. You know, they've got they've
got to apply for us for one thing from the
district council or the city council, and then they've got
to apply to the regional council. And then the regional
council wmonight not be happy with what the district or
city council said. So there's a lot of back and
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back and forward there going through this process. You're going
to have to go to one. It's going to cover everything.
So when you get consent, permission, whatever, it's going to
be called to do whatever it is you want to do,
you'll have it, and you'll you'll be able to go
that side of it. On the on the rate side
of it, we definitely won't see a reduction in rates,
but we should potential should likely see some form of
(27:38):
a reduction in rates rises. We know that certain councils
aren't very good at managing their money and other councils
are a little bit better. So yeah, one other thing
I'd just like to touch on too, is we're going
to have the same hall of people to elect councilors from,
and we're going to have a lot less councilors to elect.
So from that point of view, we could potentially come
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out with the higher quality of actual councilors there as well,
which yeah, I think there'd be some merit in that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
That is a whole point of this going through more
or less. I mean, you go back to the last
local body of elections and two hundred p two hundred
elected representatives went through unopposed, and that was the issue
for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Absolutely absolutely. In the regional council elections this last time,
there's a couple of people I would a lot to
see there be opposed because I would have, you know,
like to see them go, but it didn't happen, thankfully.
We've got a few good, good, strong farming voices on there.
But yeah, and we need yeah, exactly what you said there.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We just hope this doesn't go pear shape. Yes, a
case of being careful what you wish for, because the
uncertainty around this is the only thing that's certain least,
be honest.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, I mean I think there's certainty and that we
will see an improvement and efficiency just because there's going
to be less There's going to be less people doing things,
There's going to be less bureaucrats, there's going to be
less of everything in that way, and things will happen
faster because they just all work with and against each
other at the same time, if you know what I mean.
There's a lot of justifying a job's existence happens in there.
(29:11):
So no, I don't see how it can bring worse
out comes over all. There will be certain things where
there's potentially going to be less representation. And don't get
me wrong, but I mean, how far will we take
it if we all want full representation and everything, Well,
we just can't have that, can we. So there's got
to be a line somewhere, and I think, I personally
think we will come come out with better outcomes. I
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just hope I don't have to eat more words there.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Get on your ben and enjoy the week.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Cheers Andy All Ben Dooley.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Farming just out of Wyndham's Sheep and Beef Farmer and
as a YouTube channel as well, Deep South Sheep and Beef.
Money Clark's up next a vessel, but we catch up
with her over in Illinois. She's up next, will Wan.
(30:03):
Welcome back to the Musta from the cool hills of
Northern Southland to the mid thirty temperatures that are being
experienced in Illinois. We're going to catch up now with
Marny Clark. She is based out of Ethel. She's over
there at the moment though with her father En of course,
Al blackhert anonymous around farming circles in Northern Southland, and
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she's currently in Sparta, Illinois and competing in the Grand
American Trap Shooting Championships, and she's going to tell us
all about how it's going so far. Money, Good afternoon,
and welcome to the muster.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Oh good afternoon. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, look, thanks for your time on what must be
a pretty awesome trip. How's it going, Oh, it's going great.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Actually I've had some personal beast. It's a lot different
to the shooting at home, but it's great.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay. So describe the trap shooting scene where you're based
as as opposed to what you might see in Northern Southland.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Well, at home, we've definitely got a lot different conditions.
It's a bit more windy and all that. Here it's
pretty calm and there's not many hills. It's a lot
warmer here compared to home. We've had Today was thirty
degrees so quite warm, although it fout like thirty five.
(31:23):
It was definitely a struggle to stay focused while I
was shooting, but we got there in the end.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Money. Give people a bit of a background about your
trap shooting experience and how you got into it.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Well, so I started at Northern Southern College. On Fridays
we did clubs time. So we'd go down to the
balfer Clay Target Club where Dave Baker, Fred Gray, A
McLaughlin and a couple others we'd try and coach us.
Some days that works, some days that didn't. And then
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from then on I sort of started getting better at it,
and then I won a few things at the secondary
school nationals probably three or four years ago now, and
then sort of just grew from there.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And just you notice that you had a bit of
a talent for this, I mean going up to the
old Man's hills and shooting rabbits. Well, there wasn't really
much of a practice of you wanted to look a
bit bigger and brighter.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
I suppose, Yeah, definitely he didn't have many rabbits.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well they're all gone by now. Obviously. That's what happens
when you're in good shot. So as far as when
you're practicing for clay target shooting, how many hours a
week would you practice?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Ah, it depends, It depends. Before the worlds that are
shot in the March, I was shooting one hundred three
times a week.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I understand. The grand scale of where you're participating at
the moment in Sparta, Illinois is like five kilometers five
kilometers wide more or less. This graze just explain what
it's like.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Yeah, so it's about five k's of traps, which is
like three miles long, and there's people shooting basically all
day from nine o'clock till it's five o'clock now and
people are still shooting, just finishing off for the day,
and then we sort of have shoot offs which go
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for sort of start at six o'clock, can go till
nine or later.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
So do you do much practicing while you're over there
or is it a case of just being prepared and
hopping in and doing what you have to do.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Well, they have practice traps here, but I'm sort of
just jumping and jumping into it.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I suppose though, coming from a town like Castle and
heading over to the US, it's a case of taking
in a whole new, totally different life for a couple
of weeks and you're over there for a month. What
is it you're really enjoying about the trip.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I'm definitely enjoying the shooting part, and I like how
we get to shoot. So we shoot three hundred clays
a day, whereas at home in New Zealand we'd be
lucky if we shot one hundred a day. So it's
quite a lot more shooting, which is helping me sort
of build my mental side of the shooting.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What's it like, the mental side of it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Well so, so generally when I miss, I get quite angry,
but you can't really get angry. You have to sort
of stay calm and keep doing what you're doing, otherwise
you mess up the whole round. So I just I
just think about the heat.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
So as far as the competitors that you're up against,
do you get the opportunity to ex socialize and meet them?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah, We've actually had lots of socializing experiments x X
experience with lots of shooters we've had. I've shot in
like squads, we call it squads of five shot and
squads with some Brazilians. They give you like they gave
me a little Brazilian flag pin, which was quite nice.
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And I shot with a girl from America here and
she gave me a pin. So they're all quite nice.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So how long are you over in the States for?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
So we've got another four more days competing and then
probably about three days flying home and stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And how's your dad handling the drive? And considering it
comes from one of the most quieter towns that you'll
see in New Zealand, is he okay on the other
side of the road.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Oh, we were all a bit stressed at the start
when we drove out of the airport. But he's got
it under control now. He just got to remember how
to do it when we get back.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Okay, so when you get home, did you just carry
on with your training and anything else on the horizon.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Just continue with training and stuff. The next big event,
I guess is the School Nationals in September, which is
my last school Nationals. So I'm hoping to go for
that win that gun this year since it's my last year.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So what would you say to anybody a bit younger
many who wants to get into clay target shooting? What
is it that really appeals.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I'd say definitely the social part. But there's a lot
to learn in shooting, not just how to shoot. You
learn this safety and you meet lots of people and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's pretty cool as well. The fact you have to
hire a golf cart to commute around the shooting side.
I mean, you go and look at it online Sparta, Illinois,
google it if you want to Grand American Trap Shooting Championships,
and just the size of it is mind boggling, to
say the least. I still can't comprehend it.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Yeah, it was pretty crazy just driving in here. And
we were the first day when we got here and
we were like, oh, just keeps on going.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
How are you fearing. How's the shooting going? Oh, I's
going good. Today.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
I got my best score out of the second hundred.
I got a ninety eight out of one hundred singles,
which is single barrel. And then the first round wasn't
so good. I got at eighty nine. So I'm at
one's eighty seven for the day today, so out of
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two hundred, So we'll see how we end up.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The other day.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I think I got one nine one, So yes, a
few good schools and a few bad schools, but I'm
starting to get the hang of it now.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Hey, Marnie, thanks very much for your time this afternoon.
All the best for the rest of the competition, and
hopefully your dad gets you back to the airport and
gets a vehicle on the right side of the road,
and yeah, we'll catch up again. All the best.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Yep, thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
You man.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Clark of ethel but over there with her father in
competing in the Grand American Trap Shooting Championships. This is
a hell of a scale. One thousand campsites, five hundred officials,
four million clays, just think about that. Richard White's up
next talking young farmers.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Half a mile.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
From the Canifirm and the red camp for.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And down me and boys standing there.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
What a settle?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
This is the muster. Richard White of by Tiny Young
Farmers joins us next for our Young Farmers round up
every Tuesday. Good afternoon, Richard. It was a cool start
down here in the south. How are you coping?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (38:39):
I was hoping not too bad this morning yet. The
snow's all gone already, which is good. The sun's out,
so I can't really complain.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Too much to be here, just to weave it damp
on top, right, I don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Ground conditions in general where you were based, Is it
not too bad?
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Oh yeah, not too bad really, yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
The leading before the busy season really kicks in. And
now we're tanny young farmers. Somehow have things been over
the past month or say?
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah, so what?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
And farm doing pretty busy lately, just trying to organize
this car troll we've got coming up, and then also
been doing a couple of belly crutching fundraisers.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
That's think what.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Good as well?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Good money and belly crutching makes sense.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeah, No, that's good money, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, as long.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
As it's more than three or four of us turn
up this when it kind of goes to keck. But
I did say you guys will have good numbers.
Speaker 8 (39:28):
Yeah, no, we seem to be ob a round what
good four crutches usually and then enough people to rouse
the and pein up and stuff with it and keep
things going.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Good fundraisers like that to beats picking up rocks, I suppose.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Yeah, it does beat picking up rocks.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, get a hairy Okay, you can't try. What's it
all about?
Speaker 8 (39:47):
So we've got a car troll coming up on the
eighth of August at the River's Dot Pub. We're raising
funds for the Southland Charity Hospital.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Nice.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
So we got I pretty much just go around the course,
I answer questions and do pretty much activities and yeah,
and earn points really and at the end of the
night there's a band on at the Riversdale Pub with
raffles and auction prizes going on as well.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So how far are people traveling during the course of
the day. Roughly when you're doing something like this.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
We're going to sort of head round towards it's for
Beal for Mandible up to Lumsdon, Riversdale, all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
In other words, in northern Southern.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Bloc pretty much that's the one yep.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Whereas things to do, so do people need to register?
You just wanted people to turn up on the day.
What's the plan, Richard?
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Yeah, turn up on the day, so there'll be registrations
on the day at the at the.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Rivers Dale Pub.
Speaker 8 (40:46):
One of their crew members will be there sorting that out.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Nice one. Now as far as events over August and September,
use it gets busy. But do you guys make a
point of catching up for a feed or something once
every couple of weeks or what what a plan do
you do? What plan do you do?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Yeah, we usually try and catch up with it over
over the Lemming Lemming carving good to try and keep
people out and heavy ya with everyone.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Everyone's getting on.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's a big thing. Isn't just connecting because there can
be enough fight on the ground. But this is a
really good time of technology to come to the fore.
You've got the check groups going, check the shan's up there,
the odd the odd stuff up on the farm and
just gi give everybody a bit of a chuckle and
just a bit of a morale booster, I suppose. So
it holds its place.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
Indeed, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Absolutely. As far as meeting times of you guys, what's
to go? How often do you meet in that?
Speaker 8 (41:41):
So we meet the second Monday every month, So next
meeting is actually next Monday, coming up the pink of August.
I'm pretty sure it is whereabout work should be meeting
at the rivers, Bob as well.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
So numbers wise, what's been happening with you guys? Are
still pretty pretty enthusiastic member base?
Speaker 8 (42:02):
Yeah, I was still got a pretty pretty good number base.
I couldn't tell you the numbers off the top of
their head. They sort of dropped back at this on
the air obviously because they were I'm getting busy and
stuff like that, and maybe it's the harder to get
out of this on the air, but.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Still sort of getting the.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Good that's sort of fifteen on people coming along the
most meetings, which is quite good.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
There's pretty good number that, especially for the time of year.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yeah, no, definitely it is.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, So get on your socials if you want to
find out a bit more. I suppose that'd be the key.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yep, yep, put us up on Facebook if you want
to find out more about the club everything sort of
posts on the air about what's going on, and yeah,
there's definitely a lot happening in the next month, I
think with other clubs as well.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, good stuff Richard, Hey, thanks for your time as
always and stay warms Affternoon.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yes all the.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
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(43:37):
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The master's brought to you by Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon,
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right too. Heal there and what did he go on again?
For PGD? You write and once again present stock selling
action that occurred at a Chili lauvel saw yard this
(43:57):
morning to Sam Riley's Once again our me on the
ground to give us a rundown of these prices. Probably
hit a coat on this morning to get a Sam.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, mate, it was quite a big,
big warm coat too, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Take on in that how do we fare?
Speaker 7 (44:12):
Everything's pretty similar to the last week. We actually had
no prime kettle in today to speak of, so there's
nothing there but the store kettle, A good yarding of
store kettl coming today, some yealings and some two year
olds there quote the two year old beef cross stairs
at four sixty five to five hundred and ten kilos.
They were two thousand and five hundred dollars to two thousand,
(44:34):
six hundred and sixty beef cross heifers at four hundred
and four to four sixty kgs. They were two thousand
and four hundred and thirty dollars to two five nine
oh Into the yearlings from charlet cross heifers at two
hundred and fifty four kgs fourteen hundred dollars. And here
if across heapers are two three kg kilos, they were
twelve hundred dollars. Some here from cross heapers at two
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hundred and thirty five kgs thirty and ninety. Some beef
cross balls it's three hundred and twenty three kilos seventeen
forty and some fruis and balls at three fifty two
kgs seventeen sixty. So everything's selling reasonably well there under
the prime street. We move mate those lambs, good heavy
lambs two sixty to two ninety, the medium's two forty
(45:18):
two fifty eight, and the lighter and lambs at two
fifteen to two thirty a handful of two percent. The
best of those are two oh two to two thirty
four and the US three hundred to three hundred and
thirty two on the tops of those two hundred and
twenty fifty on the medium and those lighter and yews
at one thirty six to one forty four, and just
a handful of store lambs and as well the best
(45:41):
of those one seventy to one eighty, the medium is
one fifty to one sixty and the lighter in store
lambs one hundred and one hundred and thirty dollars.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Which that wraps up what was it took very chilly
Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Well, AF and I understand you're one of Southn's premiere
farms this afternoon, so we'd better let you carry on.
Speaker 7 (45:58):
Yeah, I'm just watching the extra in go the work
Order the monment of the year. He felt quite nice
playing to get around
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanilli. I'm
Andy Miller. We're here until two this afternoon, and the
show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. We'll come
along on a cold, cool afternoon here and Gord. Ironically,
the temperatures reading about six degrees at the moment, which
is the high for this afternoon. But as far as
the snow, it sounds as though like Jamie mcguy in
(00:30):
the country talking about it before being a towny problem
this afternoon A suddenly here and Gore. First thing this morning,
just on daylight, we had snow flurries that went through
to about nine am, but after that a lot of
it's disappeared. If it was about it's just a cool,
crisp afternoon, but we'll talk about it surely in the forecast.
Overnight lows are going to be pretty cold and a
lot of black ice will be a resolver. Is that
(00:52):
nonetheless has a happy vibe for a Tuesday. Ben Morrison's
five Days Forecast with twin farm t from and soft text.
The proof is in the progeny t from dot co
dot Inza and those temperatures as such a Tuesday, we're
going to see snowshollers of breezy, sour westerlies in a
(01:13):
high of six. Tomorrow partly cloudy with calm variable wins
minus five and seven. Thursday sunshine of variable wins once
again minus four and eight. Friday cloudy, calm, variable wins
a little bit warmer. That's such a thing in this
situation one and nine. And on Saturday sunshine of variable
winds zero and eleven. So it is getting rather call
(01:36):
over the next couple of nights. So temperatures to hand
Clinton five point two, Northern South and five point five.
Riverton's still at eight. It's not bad, tane Our five
point four, Titoro six one to four point nine, and
Woodlands at six point one. Grant Disaster McMaster upper closeper
in station gets us underway as he normally does on
(01:56):
a Tuesday, followed up with Good District Mayor Ben Bow
talking counsel, amount of emations and yeah, what works from
Ben's point of view, from a good district point of
view as well. I mean, this is something that is
coming to a head very very shortly. So we've had
a lot of the MEAs and over the past week
or so, and being concludes that anyway, so interesting to
see what he's got to say about that. And Ben
(02:17):
Dooley as well, all the Ben's this afternoon talks about
amalgamation and why he thinks, Yeah, he just thinks Gorney
stays separate from a marriage with the Macago of the
South and District as such. Marty Clark of Ethel really
good at trapshooting, currently over in Illinois, and that is
where we catch up with hervis afternoon. She's over there
(02:39):
doing a pretty cool trip, a trip of a lifetime,
you could say. And that Richard White and Waite Tani
Young Farmers joins us. Sam Riley a PGG writes and
gives a stock sale report from Lawn Bought. And then
we'll crank into it with Disaster grabbing Master Farms on
(03:11):
the edges of Lake Walker, Tippo at Klosper and Station
and we catch up weekly. Thanks for a team at
Arbi Rural Batman and Koba's tearing Gore. Good afternoon, Disaster.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Good afternoon, Handy, Good afternoon, everybody. Well I'm just fifteen
k's up the lake today from close burn up at
Mount Crichton, giving Phil McMurray a hands of scanners. You
so scanning's just started up around this area. Probably we're
getting close to Lamb and further down south shortly. But yeah,
morning scanning started off. We'll look dark this morning and
(03:42):
a few stifts of snow as I headed away, But
the days turned out all right. It's a cold breeze,
but the sun is out and yeah, the snow hasn't
come to anything, so I know, just looking at the
at the forecast. So later on in the week where
we're not getting the temperate are going to be very
very very cold. But yeah, good today and no mind you,
(04:02):
he's got covered yards so you wouldn't want any mode
of them. But us went through in good conditions acan well,
so yeah, let's hope for nature keeps for biting.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So no snow on the hills or anything up in
the basin that you can see there.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
There was a it went around last night over and
Nicholas wall to peek through there up behind us just
the skiff went through. But yeah, it's pretty much well
it's sort of going now, but still quite a bit
of snow further back which has been hanging around. But
in saying that day morning, so that's always always a
(04:37):
bit of a bonus, but yeah, pretty cold, pretty cold
all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So it's just August being August for hopefully, touch Why
do we have a September to remember?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, exactly, And I just think, you know, to last
year and memories a great thing, isn't it. Of course
it's not. But I did good August last year, and
then we got that rain at the end of it,
you know, four hundred miles over a couple of weeks,
and it just kept going. So hopefully it won't be
quite like that. I mean, we had another thirty two
miles of rain on Friday night here, so at least
(05:09):
we've been we've been getting a bit of rain, whereas
this time last year we've gone through from the autumn
basically right through the winter without any rain, including August
until we got to the end of August, and then
it didn't stop. So maybe we've had enough just to
keep the averages being averages.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
So I'm closer, and as such, you're pretty much in
a holding position waiting for scanning. And let's just remember
your season. You're about four weeks differential compared to everybody
else with your lambing dates and the lakes.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, probably over, we know, we won't start lambing until
about the eighth of October, so yeah, yeah, we'll scan. Well.
The us are still going around the hell blocks. I
just shifted a mild yesterday with mixed age years and
you know, they're certainly utilizing all the feed and they're
looking all right. The beam I have have been around
another area, so we're sort of everything's heading closer to
(05:58):
the wall shed now and we'll share on about the
twentieth and then scan about the twenty third hopefully. But
you know, things, you know, things are looking pretty good
with the blocks have been needed out quite well, and
they'll come away good in the spring if we get
a good spring. But you know, I think the best
thing is that the sheeper and god Neck and which
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is good and the hog it's over over the hills
are they are utilizing all their crops, So that's good.
There we have. We're actually carving at the moment. So
the heifers that we bought in as we do every year,
they were aied, but just a bit of a lack
of communications between the agent and the manager and didn't
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realize they were actually starting to through carved series. I've
been going a week, but they're a eyed. So twenty
five from there we've had thirteen born and that should
be all tied it up by next week. So the
carbs a bouncing around and and blocked with a bit
of shelter.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Thank goodness, that's just what you want in August. Anyway,
I've told your time and again you not let us
say the beam of these days. It's a development squad.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
All right, for the bomb squad should be born.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Uh fair, call on that, hey Gren, you want to
touch on deer numbers as well?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, well we're gonna you know, there's deer a rampant
and here I am quite and you know they've they've
got a bigger problem with fellow deer than we have.
It's probably a bit warmer, but you know, the helicopter's
coming to these places and you know, shooting sort of
two hundred deer and and around the places to try
and a bit of containment. But I was reading in
(07:39):
the in the Farmers Weekly about the Game Animal Control
and I don't actually know what it existed, but it
is a government department. And I think you said, who's Minister.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
James Mega, Yeah right, and Minister for Hunting and Fishing.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, for hunting and fishing, and so Wapod and
Seeker have been given the given the title. I've heard
of significant interest and so the Whappity obviously in children
and the seacart and the commens in the National Parks
and the they're the first heards to have this, so
it's basically they're going to be I guess it's what
(08:17):
the Wappity you know, that's always been, that's always been
in the National Park and I mean these these there
are introduced, but I guess it's just controlled culling, which
I guess they've always tried to do with the Waverty
and but the saying, you know, that's just there's you know,
the scientific assessments of what needs to be cold and
(08:38):
what doesn't. And it just brings me to think, you know,
of all the areas within the country now and whether
the a Caigo south and where everything you read on
the west coast, you know, the d numbers are just
out of control, so to be you know, sort of
having a culling of deer that have been introduced warming
(09:00):
under juice, but as in the Wappaty and the Seeker
as opposed to the ones that are just you know,
coming off conservation land and spilling out from that and
to productive farmland. It's sort of it doesn't seem quite right.
I think we need to be more proactive with the
pigs there, possums, everything like that. We go, you know,
(09:23):
somehow we need to get more money to put into that,
and we're sort of spoken about it before, you know,
with the wild and pine now, Karon, I went up
to the Hermitage on Thursday and Friday, we had a
voucher to go there. At Mountain Crockett was absolutely poured
going in there on the Thursday, couldn't see the front
of the car let alone the mountain. But on Saturday
(09:44):
morning it was a beautiful day. The snow was right
there and you can see everything. But you know, iconic
landscapes and there and those wild and pines while they're
trying to get in with dozers and what have you.
You know, just from twice all through on all that
land that you know that's wouldn't call it crime real
estate as far as farming goes, but it's worth nothing
now with all those trees on it. So you know,
(10:05):
we look at we look at the weed problems we've got,
we've got and I guess them Olsworth, So you know,
it's a different situation now, maybe hopefully Nika who we'll
be able to get in and spend some money on
weeds because there's a lot of them and a lot
of other other places. So I don't know, you have
these areas of national significance with these beer numbers, but
(10:27):
what about you know, the air productive farmland that's also
getting decimated by equally their deer coming out of state
forests and other conservation areas. And who's putting the bill
for that?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And that's the argument the ecological disaster regarding the pins
We've talked about a time and before, but driving to
through Raised Junction on the way to Miller's Plat at
the weekend and all that farmland producing farmland, it's gone
into carbon farming. It's a case of don't hate the player,
but hate the game. It's just unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I've never seen I don't think i've seen trees crow
as quick as through that Lawrence Beaumont area, and I
know firsthand, you know that's bringing a lot of problems
with pigs are one of the big areas now that
are coming out and decimating some of those places and
one of the sponsors of the show their property. So
(11:18):
you know, the more that go in, the more it happens.
And they're saying in this article about you know, you
can't leave it up to the individual, you know, Weekend
Warrior Hunter, but a lot of those people can't get
access to places anyway, and it's just not feasible to
that many deer. I mean, it is worse now. The
deer population is worse now than it was in the seventies,
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late sixties, seventies when we had the Great Venison Recovery going.
So you know, we thought that was bad enough, but
people are saying it's worse than that now.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Absolutely. Hey, good on your ground. Will catch up next week.
Southern Charity indoor charity dog trails just around the corner
as well.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yep, well we've port on that and keep warm down there.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Grant McMaster thanks to RB Rural. Ben Bell's up next
to cor Mayor. Welcome back to the muster. Ben Bell
(12:23):
is good district Mayor. We heard from Rob Scott yesterday
and Grant Dermody last week from an Inbercagal Council perspective
regarding this council amalgamation which is just coming to the fore.
It's not far. I think the August the ninth is
when basically councilors have got to have their ducks in
a row and giving an indication to central government what
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they want to happen regarding this or it's going to
be the decision will be made for them. Ben Bell, welcome,
good to chat, Yes, good to chat.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'm excited to be on the muster.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, good to have you in mate. Look, and there's
plenty going on at the Baby. You don't need me
to tell you that, but I suppose straight off the
bat regarding these council mergers, from a good perspective, there's
quite a few things to entail right there is. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I mean, we've got a complicated process down here, more
complicated than the rest of the country is.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I'm sure that your two.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Previous guests would have already explained. We have the head
start process, which has been put on us by a
central government three months to come up with a bit
of a plan, voluntary process. But if you don't do it,
then you be forced into something else, so called the backstop.
And then we have the local government process going on
as well, which was initiated by Southern District Council about
what eighteen months ago now, So we won't actually fall
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into the backstop. If we don't do a head start,
we'll fall into the Local Government Commission process and then
if that's not successful, then we'll fall into whatever the
backstop ends up being.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Do you agree with the process the head start? Oh?
Just in general the amalgamation process that we're doing.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Umm.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Look, I think it's a worthy conversation to have.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I think, you know, watching it unfold up and down
the country, especially here, I think it's a massive distraction
from the jobs that were ultimately elected to do, which
is in the first essence, you know, try and keep
rates down and so you can serve our community. And
I think it's been a really big distraction from delivering
on that. Absolutely, we need to have the conversation. I
(14:19):
probably would have expected a bit more.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Unity around the place.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
There certainly hasn't been in a unity in Southend and
we saw that with Three Waters as well. You know,
people were in and then they're out, and they're up
and they're down. So it's hard to be elected for
your district and then try and hold hands with all
the areas that you went't elected to deserve.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So it feels like the goalposts are being moved on
a consistent basis.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
At the moment. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And I mean even with the head start, you have
no idea whether the government's even going to say yes.
So you might peer up with all your buddies, come
up with this amazing plan and then still get shot down.
You might do none of that and also get forced
to work with them. So it's a very uncertain time
in local gunment. Although I feel like I've been saying
that for the last four years.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So the Gore District, what are they thinking as far
as amalgamation? Are they for one unitary council or going
into into two modes?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think I think we've as a council kind of
acknowledged that the Gore District is probably the loser in
all of these situations. You know, we have it pretty
good at the moment having our own district and our
own voice. There are downsides to both options that are
on the table, whether it's a loss of local voice
having to merge with the city or the financial implications
(15:34):
of splitting a regional council on half. So it's been
really tough. If we look at the there's been a
bit of a petition locally and also we had a
survey and both of those have overwhelmingly supported the two
unitary option. So it will be interesting to see tomorrow
at our council, meaning kind of how councilor's process that,
along with the modeling that's out there and any other considerations.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I guess I.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Can feel for the for the rural people, and you
see it in Otiga as well, that fear of being
merged with a city, especially by force.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Queenstown.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that was surprising altogether.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I wasn't expecting that at all, but up and down
the country you've seen it. Rural councils are banning together
to put in something just so they don't get absorbed
by their local city. I think most metros would quite
happily absorb everyone around them, but ultimately that sucks away
the voice from from the royal sector.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
You know, counselors have been weighing up.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I mean, my mind changes probably on the daily of
what I think is the best option. I know that
counselors certainly do. It's been an absolute will wind of
information and opinions as well. So yeah, we'll really just
have to see what comes up with in the day.
I guess the comfort that we have is that if
we make no decision, we fall into the local government
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commission process, which is much longer and much more rigorous
and really picks apart the different options and really how
community understand them a lot more.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yourself, Rob Scott, Tom Campbell and Jeremy mcfail, have you
sat down in a room and tried to knot things out?
Is that possible?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
We we have and to not much success. That's probably
the way was what was a stickler? I don't I
don't really, I don't want to. I don't want to
sound off on my other mayors.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
I guess there's there's very strong opinions and some some
mayors who are quite unwilling to change in their views.
And that's probably the crux of it, right, is that
you have a mayor who's or a council that's really
strong on one option and a mayor who's very very
strong on another option.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
And and from my from my view and I.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Certainly hope my council's view, we don't see a huge
benefit in either. But we're happy to work with with
either and try and figure out what's the best for
our community.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Is this a case of community for the wider Gore
region and just Southland in general, or let's just say
the whole country because this has happened in a bum's
rush that everybody's just kind of got their heads in
the sands about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I think a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I mean the people that I talk to out in
the community, they kind of go, well, why are.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You doing all of this? Is it to save money?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
And I go, well, you won't really save any money,
you know, a malgamations are expensive and like the best
modeling that I've seen, you'd save maybe three percent over
ten years, which isn't a whole lot. That's and that's
a lot of the questions that are being asked with me,
why are we doing this? Why don't we just keep
it the same? And I don't really have a good
answer for that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Because sorry, mate. The reason this was implemented was that
the last elections, and you'll be aware of this, two
hundred councilors and mayors around the country were elected under
post and people just sick a week from the wheat
and chaff being put.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
In yeah, but voter apathy only gets worse.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
We've seen that in Auckland, like voter epathy got significantly
worse after the super city amalgamation. You know, Gore has
has one of the highest voter two outs within the country.
If you if you take the council that you have
now and uh whirdled that down to three councilors, I'd
imagine that your voter apathy would increase and you get
a lot of people who wouldn't stand again. So, yeah,
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if it's gonna it's it's probably not gonna involve increase
voter turnout. It's probably not going to save you a
whole lot of money. It is that question of why
are we doing it?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Is it fear that government's just going to.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Push us together? I would I would assume so. And
even you know, amplified in the rural sector of being
pushed into a city that they're going to completely lose
their voice, and I think that's where a lot of
the fear comes from.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Can Gore afford to do this.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
That's a good question. I think we can.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean, we've got we've definitely got the deck capacity
to do an amalgamation. Same with you know our partners,
or pretend your partners have deck capacity to do it
as well.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I guess the.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Numbers just start pretty and amalgamation comes with a lot
of risk, right, you know, three percent is best case
scenario from the modeling that we've seen, and we still
need some more independent modeling to figure that out. But
the Auckland super City amalgamation that blew out in costs,
you know, they were an extra I think was half
half a billion dollars over what they projected. So if
your best case scenario is only a small saving, what's
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your worst case scenario right now?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
In the recent times? Hey, thanks for coming in studio
this afternoon and hear all the best you've got to
be adding you're going to be earning your dinner for
a couple of nights, I'd.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Say absolutely, it's gonna be a big week.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
With the starve of Welcome back to the Muster. Van
Morrison is the music that song their moon Dance. You
can swap that out for snow dance. A lot of
the province has been wait, wake up this morning with
the white stuff on the ground, But this will just
mean frost will occur for the next couple of nights
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and projected overnight are going into the minus four minus
five breakers, and just be foe warned around that and
your activities in the morning. Ben Dooley Farms just out
of Windom, Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer. Good a dells good,
here we go on, pretty good. How's how's everything out
your neck of there was just a little bit damp
on top now.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, well, I get the feeling. We've had a bit
of snow overnight, but none of it's lay and I'm
sure people understand what that's like. For some reason, snow
makes things extra wet, but it does disappear quick enough,
So just out dealing with that and yeah, yeah, hopefully
things do start to drawing up soon.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
The only saving grace is there was no windshill in
Gore anyway. It was just dead still. And that's the
worst thing is anybody knows at this time of year
when you're working with animals, is when you get that
breeze with it.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, absolutely what we think about at a laving time.
But even the adult life stock they still feel a cold,
don't they.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, shure, everybody's getting into carving as well. You know,
it's it is short and sharp. That's the saving grace
around all this, so pretty much for you guys. You're
on the can down to Lemming.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yep, yep. No, when the crops are all disappearing, I've
got I think I've got five breaks left for the hoggits.
I've got one more of the use on their last
break now and another mob have three breaks left to go,
and then that's all the crop's done, which is a
great feeling. Cat will be in the feed pad til
the end September, hopefully, see how that goes. But yeah,
just just going through the process now. We're hoping to
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pre lamb the early is yesterday and then again today.
We might get them this afternoon, but just with the
moisture that's around or sort of keep putting it off.
But yeah, if we don't get it done today, it'll
have to be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So any hoping. I mean it's almost like a race.
See he can get the tractor into the panic first
in some places. Are you are you of that mindset?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
No? Look, I've always been one to get in and
what a lot of people would say very early, far
too early, whatever they want to say. My take on
it is when the paddock is dry, enough to get
in there and do I want to get in there
and do one rip, just wrap it up and open
it up. And what I've found that does, it's got
to be properly dry enough to do it. What that
does is mean that when you come back to it,
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when you have got time to do it, when the
ground conditions are right, you're already halfway there because that
ground has been opened up and it's had time to
dry out deep deeper down, and you know, you can
actually work with it. And when it does rain, it
doesn't get sticky and stay that way for a week.
You know, you can have rain on a paddic and
then you know, six, eight, twelve hours later, sometimes you
can be back in there doing stuff. But no, I'm
(23:24):
not an advocate of going too soon, just as soon
as it's practical, depending what else you've got going on
on far.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Now we are your grasscovers looking, bearing in mind that
it has been a little bit of growth over the
past few weeks, although that'll be knocked on the head
for the next couple of days.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah. No, Well, the way the Swedes were this year,
we went on crop a week earlier, so we had
just about everything on on the twenty third of May,
it was, and that's put us in a pretty bloody
good position there. So we're on a week earlier and
coming off a pretty similar time to normal, possibly just
a week later with one more Yes, So no grasscovers
are exceptional, although we are in that situation now where
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I've got quite a few paddocks that's sort of you know,
two and a half three thousand cover, and if you
do a half grazing on them, they're never that great
to lamb on. So just juggling what the best thing
is to do there. I think what I'm doing is
grazing them down hard, and then when we spread out,
we will spread out that paddicck sheep and the paddock
beside it, because it'll still have like an eighteen hundred
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twenty two hundred cover, and then give it a chance
to grow before we fire the sheep back in there
just a few days before they lamb on the twelfth
of September. So really good. But yeah, just just that
having to try and manage it, to try and get
the best out of it, I guess ben.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I've been speaking to all the mayors in the Southern
region on Southend anyway, over the past week regarding these
council amalgamations, this is all coming to a head pretty
much next week. What do you make of it? I mean,
you're a rural vote, you're a rural voter. Your rating
system is going to be different to what they experience
and a v cargo for example, what do you make
(24:55):
of it?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, Look, I think it's a good process. Well, I
don't know about the process South. I think it is
good that something is happening. A lot of this has
been brought on by regional councils, and I'm not just
talking about environments South and but around the country, extending
their scope a fair bit further than a lot of
people would say that should be, you know, making life
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hard for a lot of people. I guess you'd say,
I think I heard Pam. You'll talk about that yesterday
there with the when they read it on the floodbanks
and stuff, and they've done their thing and they're just
not fit for purpose anymore. So the a process has
to happen. Whether the process that's happening is the right
one or not, I don't know, but we're there and
we're going to work with it. So Yeah, no, Look,
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I'm a really big advocate of having to a unitary
authorities in South and having a southern district and in
a Viicago city. So fingers crossed Gore District Council do
side with that, but we'll see what happens there. But yeah,
I just I just get really concerned if we go
to one great, big council that the money is just
going to funnel to the city. And I've got reasonably
(25:57):
strong reason to believe that will happen. I don't want
to pay for the en of Cargo City Museum, and
I'm sure the people looking for Cargo don't really want
to pay too much of their roading either, so bridge
maintenance and all that sort of stuff. So yeah, I
say keep the money where it came from. Let's have
two councils, and yeah, go from there.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
This has been forced into the councils, though you can
understand them being frustrated regarding the process. Chris Bishop's given
pretty much zero leading. But because it's election year, it's
all got to get underway.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent, and yeah, by all means it
is an election year. It is being pushed through before
that happens. I do appreciate that, but these things they
need to happen, and sometimes the best way to do
it is just just tearing the band out off and
make it happen. I don't know that this is one
of those situations, but like I say, it's what we've
got to work with, so let's just make it happen.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Do you actually have faith that this is going to
improve facilities in the south as far as facilities.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I don't know. I can't see it making things worse.
Let's put it that way. There's a hell of a
duplication happens a lot of people when they're trying to
do things around the countryside. You know, they've got they've
got to apply for us for one thing from the
district council or the city council, and then they've got
to apply to the regional council. And then the regional
council wmonight not be happy with what the district or
city council said. So there's a lot of back and
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back and forward there going through this process. You're going
to have to go to one. It's going to cover everything.
So when you get consent, permission, whatever, it's going to
be called to do whatever it is you want to do,
you'll have it, and you'll you'll be able to go
that side of it. On the on the rate side
of it, we definitely won't see a reduction in rates,
but we should potential should likely see some form of
(27:38):
a reduction in rates rises. We know that certain councils
aren't very good at managing their money and other councils
are a little bit better. So yeah, one other thing
I'd just like to touch on too, is we're going
to have the same hall of people to elect councilors from,
and we're going to have a lot less councilors to elect.
So from that point of view, we could potentially come
(27:59):
out with the higher quality of actual councilors there as well,
which yeah, I think there'd be some merit in that.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
That is a whole point of this going through more
or less. I mean, you go back to the last
local body of elections and two hundred p two hundred
elected representatives went through unopposed, and that was the issue
for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Absolutely absolutely. In the regional council elections this last time,
there's a couple of people I would a lot to
see there be opposed because I would have, you know,
like to see them go, but it didn't happen, thankfully.
We've got a few good, good, strong farming voices on there.
But yeah, and we need yeah, exactly what you said there.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We just hope this doesn't go pear shape. Yes, a
case of being careful what you wish for, because the
uncertainty around this is the only thing that's certain least,
be honest.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, I mean I think there's certainty and that we
will see an improvement and efficiency just because there's going
to be less There's going to be less people doing things,
There's going to be less bureaucrats, there's going to be
less of everything in that way, and things will happen
faster because they just all work with and against each
other at the same time, if you know what I mean.
There's a lot of justifying a job's existence happens in there.
(29:11):
So no, I don't see how it can bring worse
out comes over all. There will be certain things where
there's potentially going to be less representation. And don't get
me wrong, but I mean, how far will we take
it if we all want full representation and everything, Well,
we just can't have that, can we. So there's got
to be a line somewhere, and I think, I personally
think we will come come out with better outcomes. I
(29:32):
just hope I don't have to eat more words there.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Get on your ben and enjoy the week.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Cheers Andy All Ben Dooley.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Farming just out of Wyndham's Sheep and Beef Farmer and
as a YouTube channel as well, Deep South Sheep and Beef.
Money Clark's up next a vessel, but we catch up
with her over in Illinois. She's up next, will Wan.
(30:03):
Welcome back to the Musta from the cool hills of
Northern Southland to the mid thirty temperatures that are being
experienced in Illinois. We're going to catch up now with
Marny Clark. She is based out of Ethel. She's over
there at the moment though with her father En of course,
Al blackhert anonymous around farming circles in Northern Southland, and
(30:24):
she's currently in Sparta, Illinois and competing in the Grand
American Trap Shooting Championships, and she's going to tell us
all about how it's going so far. Money, Good afternoon,
and welcome to the muster.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Oh good afternoon. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, look, thanks for your time on what must be
a pretty awesome trip. How's it going, Oh, it's going great.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Actually I've had some personal beast. It's a lot different
to the shooting at home, but it's great.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay. So describe the trap shooting scene where you're based
as as opposed to what you might see in Northern Southland.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Well, at home, we've definitely got a lot different conditions.
It's a bit more windy and all that. Here it's
pretty calm and there's not many hills. It's a lot
warmer here compared to home. We've had Today was thirty
degrees so quite warm, although it fout like thirty five.
(31:23):
It was definitely a struggle to stay focused while I
was shooting, but we got there in the end.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Money. Give people a bit of a background about your
trap shooting experience and how you got into it.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Well, so I started at Northern Southern College. On Fridays
we did clubs time. So we'd go down to the
balfer Clay Target Club where Dave Baker, Fred Gray, A
McLaughlin and a couple others we'd try and coach us.
Some days that works, some days that didn't. And then
(31:57):
from then on I sort of started getting better at it,
and then I won a few things at the secondary
school nationals probably three or four years ago now, and
then sort of just grew from there.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And just you notice that you had a bit of
a talent for this, I mean going up to the
old Man's hills and shooting rabbits. Well, there wasn't really
much of a practice of you wanted to look a
bit bigger and brighter.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
I suppose, Yeah, definitely he didn't have many rabbits.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well they're all gone by now. Obviously. That's what happens
when you're in good shot. So as far as when
you're practicing for clay target shooting, how many hours a
week would you practice?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Ah, it depends, It depends. Before the worlds that are
shot in the March, I was shooting one hundred three
times a week.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I understand. The grand scale of where you're participating at
the moment in Sparta, Illinois is like five kilometers five
kilometers wide more or less. This graze just explain what
it's like.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
Yeah, so it's about five k's of traps, which is
like three miles long, and there's people shooting basically all
day from nine o'clock till it's five o'clock now and
people are still shooting, just finishing off for the day,
and then we sort of have shoot offs which go
(33:23):
for sort of start at six o'clock, can go till
nine or later.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
So do you do much practicing while you're over there
or is it a case of just being prepared and
hopping in and doing what you have to do.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Well, they have practice traps here, but I'm sort of
just jumping and jumping into it.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I suppose though, coming from a town like Castle and
heading over to the US, it's a case of taking
in a whole new, totally different life for a couple
of weeks and you're over there for a month. What
is it you're really enjoying about the trip.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I'm definitely enjoying the shooting part, and I like how
we get to shoot. So we shoot three hundred clays
a day, whereas at home in New Zealand we'd be
lucky if we shot one hundred a day. So it's
quite a lot more shooting, which is helping me sort
of build my mental side of the shooting.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What's it like, the mental side of it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Well so, so generally when I miss, I get quite angry,
but you can't really get angry. You have to sort
of stay calm and keep doing what you're doing, otherwise
you mess up the whole round. So I just I
just think about the heat.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
So as far as the competitors that you're up against,
do you get the opportunity to ex socialize and meet them?
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah, We've actually had lots of socializing experiments x X
experience with lots of shooters we've had. I've shot in
like squads, we call it squads of five shot and
squads with some Brazilians. They give you like they gave
me a little Brazilian flag pin, which was quite nice.
(35:07):
And I shot with a girl from America here and
she gave me a pin. So they're all quite nice.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
So how long are you over in the States for?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
So we've got another four more days competing and then
probably about three days flying home and stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And how's your dad handling the drive? And considering it
comes from one of the most quieter towns that you'll
see in New Zealand, is he okay on the other
side of the road.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Oh, we were all a bit stressed at the start
when we drove out of the airport. But he's got
it under control now. He just got to remember how
to do it when we get back.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Okay, so when you get home, did you just carry
on with your training and anything else on the horizon.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Just continue with training and stuff. The next big event,
I guess is the School Nationals in September, which is
my last school Nationals. So I'm hoping to go for
that win that gun this year since it's my last year.
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So what would you say to anybody a bit younger
many who wants to get into clay target shooting? What
is it that really appeals.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I'd say definitely the social part. But there's a lot
to learn in shooting, not just how to shoot. You
learn this safety and you meet lots of people and everything.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's pretty cool as well. The fact you have to
hire a golf cart to commute around the shooting side.
I mean, you go and look at it online Sparta, Illinois,
google it if you want to Grand American Trap Shooting Championships,
and just the size of it is mind boggling, to
say the least. I still can't comprehend it.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Yeah, it was pretty crazy just driving in here. And
we were the first day when we got here and
we were like, oh, just keeps on going.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
How are you fearing. How's the shooting going? Oh, I's
going good. Today.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
I got my best score out of the second hundred.
I got a ninety eight out of one hundred singles,
which is single barrel. And then the first round wasn't
so good. I got at eighty nine. So I'm at
one's eighty seven for the day today, so out of
(37:27):
two hundred, So we'll see how we end up.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The other day.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I think I got one nine one, So yes, a
few good schools and a few bad schools, but I'm
starting to get the hang of it now.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Hey, Marnie, thanks very much for your time this afternoon.
All the best for the rest of the competition, and
hopefully your dad gets you back to the airport and
gets a vehicle on the right side of the road,
and yeah, we'll catch up again. All the best.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Yep, thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
You man.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Clark of ethel but over there with her father in
competing in the Grand American Trap Shooting Championships. This is
a hell of a scale. One thousand campsites, five hundred officials,
four million clays, just think about that. Richard White's up
next talking young farmers.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Half a mile.
Speaker 7 (38:17):
From the Canifirm and the red camp for.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
And down me and boys standing there.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
What a settle?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
This is the muster. Richard White of by Tiny Young
Farmers joins us next for our Young Farmers round up
every Tuesday. Good afternoon, Richard. It was a cool start
down here in the south. How are you coping?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (38:39):
I was hoping not too bad this morning yet. The
snow's all gone already, which is good. The sun's out,
so I can't really complain.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Too much to be here, just to weave it damp
on top, right, I don't believe it.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Ground conditions in general where you were based, Is it
not too bad?
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Oh yeah, not too bad really, yeah, just.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
The leading before the busy season really kicks in. And
now we're tanny young farmers. Somehow have things been over
the past month or say?
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah, so what?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
And farm doing pretty busy lately, just trying to organize
this car troll we've got coming up, and then also
been doing a couple of belly crutching fundraisers.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
That's think what.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Good as well?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Good money and belly crutching makes sense.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Yeah, No, that's good money, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, as long.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
As it's more than three or four of us turn
up this when it kind of goes to keck. But
I did say you guys will have good numbers.
Speaker 8 (39:28):
Yeah, no, we seem to be ob a round what
good four crutches usually and then enough people to rouse
the and pein up and stuff with it and keep
things going.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Good fundraisers like that to beats picking up rocks, I suppose.
Speaker 8 (39:40):
Yeah, it does beat picking up rocks.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, get a hairy Okay, you can't try. What's it
all about?
Speaker 8 (39:47):
So we've got a car troll coming up on the
eighth of August at the River's Dot Pub. We're raising
funds for the Southland Charity Hospital.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Nice.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
So we got I pretty much just go around the course,
I answer questions and do pretty much activities and yeah,
and earn points really and at the end of the
night there's a band on at the Riversdale Pub with
raffles and auction prizes going on as well.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So how far are people traveling during the course of
the day. Roughly when you're doing something like this.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
We're going to sort of head round towards it's for
Beal for Mandible up to Lumsdon, Riversdale, all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
In other words, in northern Southern.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Bloc pretty much that's the one yep.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Whereas things to do, so do people need to register?
You just wanted people to turn up on the day.
What's the plan, Richard?
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Yeah, turn up on the day, so there'll be registrations
on the day at the at the.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Rivers Dale Pub.
Speaker 8 (40:46):
One of their crew members will be there sorting that out.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Nice one. Now as far as events over August and September,
use it gets busy. But do you guys make a
point of catching up for a feed or something once
every couple of weeks or what what a plan do
you do? What plan do you do?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Yeah, we usually try and catch up with it over
over the Lemming Lemming carving good to try and keep
people out and heavy ya with everyone.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Everyone's getting on.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's a big thing. Isn't just connecting because there can
be enough fight on the ground. But this is a
really good time of technology to come to the fore.
You've got the check groups going, check the shan's up there,
the odd the odd stuff up on the farm and
just gi give everybody a bit of a chuckle and
just a bit of a morale booster, I suppose. So
it holds its place.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, it does.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
Indeed, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Absolutely. As far as meeting times of you guys, what's
to go? How often do you meet in that?
Speaker 8 (41:41):
So we meet the second Monday every month, So next
meeting is actually next Monday, coming up the pink of August.
I'm pretty sure it is whereabout work should be meeting
at the rivers, Bob as well.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
So numbers wise, what's been happening with you guys? Are
still pretty pretty enthusiastic member base?
Speaker 8 (42:02):
Yeah, I was still got a pretty pretty good number base.
I couldn't tell you the numbers off the top of
their head. They sort of dropped back at this on
the air obviously because they were I'm getting busy and
stuff like that, and maybe it's the harder to get
out of this on the air, but.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Still sort of getting the.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Good that's sort of fifteen on people coming along the
most meetings, which is quite good.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
There's pretty good number that, especially for the time of year.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Yeah, no, definitely it is.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, So get on your socials if you want to
find out a bit more. I suppose that'd be the key.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yep, yep, put us up on Facebook if you want
to find out more about the club everything sort of
posts on the air about what's going on, and yeah,
there's definitely a lot happening in the next month, I
think with other clubs as well.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, good stuff Richard, Hey, thanks for your time as
always and stay warms Affternoon.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yes all the.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Doll real laugh out loud with ag proud because life
on the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
the livestock farmer. What's the difference between a bad hunter
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Speaker 3 (43:15):
Story, believe it.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
There for the afternoon. The podcast is going up shortly
thanks to iHeartRadio. You can go and find any interviews
as well, especially talking this Council of amalgamation. All three
meres have now been on the show in the past
week or so. We'll depity meares for that matter of
Grant Dermedy, so you can make cap try and get
a bit of an understanding of what local council amalgamations
(43:37):
is all about. Because let's be honest, Rome wasn't built
in the day. When it comes to it, I mean demure.
The master's brought to you by Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon,
wrap up warm, catch you tomorrow. Oh hey, well I'll
right too. Heal there and what did he go on again?
For PGD? You write and once again present stock selling
action that occurred at a Chili lauvel saw yard this
(43:57):
morning to Sam Riley's Once again our me on the
ground to give us a rundown of these prices. Probably
hit a coat on this morning to get a Sam.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Yeah, I'll tell you what, mate, it was quite a big,
big warm coat too, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Take on in that how do we fare?
Speaker 7 (44:12):
Everything's pretty similar to the last week. We actually had
no prime kettle in today to speak of, so there's
nothing there but the store kettle, A good yarding of
store kettl coming today, some yealings and some two year
olds there quote the two year old beef cross stairs
at four sixty five to five hundred and ten kilos.
They were two thousand and five hundred dollars to two thousand,
(44:34):
six hundred and sixty beef cross heifers at four hundred
and four to four sixty kgs. They were two thousand
and four hundred and thirty dollars to two five nine
oh Into the yearlings from charlet cross heifers at two
hundred and fifty four kgs fourteen hundred dollars. And here
if across heapers are two three kg kilos, they were
twelve hundred dollars. Some here from cross heapers at two
(44:57):
hundred and thirty five kgs thirty and ninety. Some beef
cross balls it's three hundred and twenty three kilos seventeen
forty and some fruis and balls at three fifty two
kgs seventeen sixty. So everything's selling reasonably well there under
the prime street. We move mate those lambs, good heavy
lambs two sixty to two ninety, the medium's two forty
(45:18):
two fifty eight, and the lighter and lambs at two
fifteen to two thirty a handful of two percent. The
best of those are two oh two to two thirty
four and the US three hundred to three hundred and
thirty two on the tops of those two hundred and
twenty fifty on the medium and those lighter and yews
at one thirty six to one forty four, and just
a handful of store lambs and as well the best
(45:41):
of those one seventy to one eighty, the medium is
one fifty to one sixty and the lighter in store
lambs one hundred and one hundred and thirty dollars.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Which that wraps up what was it took very chilly
Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Well, AF and I understand you're one of Southn's premiere
farms this afternoon, so we'd better let you carry on.
Speaker 7 (45:58):
Yeah, I'm just watching the extra in go the work
Order the monment of the year. He felt quite nice
playing to get around
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