We'd Better Learn Some History - 7.3 - The Sean Hannity Show

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(01:09):
and Happy Independence Day, one day early. Man, it is
good to be back with you all here filling in
for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. This
is the radio show that everyone listens to that wants
the truth, that wants to know exactly what's happening, that
wants to partake in a team atmosphere, Lauren, this is

(01:33):
a team atmosphere, is it not? Yes, this is a
team atmosphere. Is I couldn't hear you for a second there,
way to go, team I'm a team of one evidently
to day No. But here, listen, folks, when you're a seal,
you only need to be a team of one. That's right.
And so let's go ahead and let me introduce myself

(01:54):
to those of you that that aren't familiar with who
I am. I fill in for Sean from time to time.
I fell in for David Webb and Andrew will Cow
and Serious X and Patriot Channel, and uh I've had
my own show called The Experts on Facebook, Live, Twitter
and YouTube. Unfortunately, YouTube decided to uh ban me from
YouTube because I criticized David Hog a while back. I

(02:16):
think I could do it again now, but I took
a step away from social media because like in the
case of Facebook, like happened to Diamond and Silk, I
was reaching over a million people a night, and then
all of a sudden it went down to about three
thousand people a night, all at the same time. And uh.
And then I also wrote a book called Sheep No
More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. And that

(02:39):
book was soaring, uh to the top of Amazon charts,
and and uh, you know, Sean Hannity wrote the forward
for me in that book, and some reason, strangely, Uh,
the book in one day went from uh in the
top one hundred uh down to the top one thousand,
and then quickly went down and down and down. But
every time I host the show, it goes back up,

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but unlike other books, it goes back down. I can't
help but think that all these things are connected in
social media, uh, and with the leftists in this country.
I have been uh a Navy seal, I was a
Federal Air marshal. I did security contracting for a very
long time with an amazing company full of seals and

(03:21):
special forces, and was an FBI agent here in New
York City on the criminal encounter terrorism sides of the house.
And uh, now you know, I'm doing my own thing
writing um, working in media, and still working in the
security contracting business doing uh threat assessments, which my book
Sheep no More the Art of Awareness is based upon.

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So that's my background that and and it's steeped in service.
I didn't do these things because I, you know, I
wanted to have a cool haircut and and a great watch.
I hardly even wear a watch anymore since I got
out of the military and out of the federal service. Uh.
The point of this is that my motivation was steeped

(04:03):
in service. You know, my mother, who is my hero
in life, taught me a long time ago about who
I need to be in order to be respected. She
taught me through her actions. Everybody that knows her and
my stepdad at the church where they go, Grace Church
there in in Arkansas, in Clinton, Arkansas, everybody knows those two.

(04:25):
My mom and my stepdad is being the hardest workers
in the world. They do more for people now in
their seventies than most people do. I don't in a year.
It's amazing what these two do. And so as I
was planning for today's show the day before Independence Day,
I started thinking, you know, what is it that is
missing that we keep seeing uh in the news that

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we see that we that we don't see in the news,
that we don't see in our politicians, that we don't
see in the actions of those in Hollywood, that we
don't see even in our own actions. And I felt,
you know, today would be a good day, not necessarily
to break from the news. There are some things in
the news that are that are worth talking about, but
constantly they revolve back into the set of characteristics that

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I looked upon that my mother taught me, that I founded,
that the founding fathers of this country had, and that
no longer exists in a lot of ways in this country.
One of those things is dignity. Does anybody even think
about dignity before they post a picture on Instagram or
on Facebook or on Twitter. Is that even something that

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is in their mind when they post that selfie or
that picture or that funny thing. Because quite often, if
you were to look at the series of things that
people post, the last thing that you're gonna say to
yourself is, man, that person has got a lot of dignity,
they've got morals. That's a person that I want to

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listen to. And I just look at now, I'm starting
with you. I worked my way up into this family
tree of of destruction in this country. Dialogue and debate.
Is that something that we have anymore in this country.
The Founding fathers when they created the constitution, when they
when they crafted the Declaration of Independence, it came with

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great dialogue. It wasn't just somebody sending out a a tweet, uh,
somebody that was putting a post on a social media
platform giving their opinion. These things came at great cost
and dialogue and debate, and that's how they came up
with the answers of the very doctrine, the very sheets

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of paper that still guide us in this country two
and forty two years after it was formed. Debate, dialogue,
that is what the country to this. That's not what
happens anymore. It's listening to me. Notice me, I have
this to say, I'm right, this is my opinion on it,

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instead of what do you think I think it should be?
This way? Now, I'll give you your turn, and you
can say, and then I can tell you why I
think yours isn't right, and you can tell me why
you think mine isn't right, and then we can come
to a conclusion as to what's best for the country.
You don't see that sacrifice. How many people sacrifice for

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their country in this In the United States today, only
one percent of the citizen reserves in the military. There's
only about a million police officers in a country with
three hundred and thirty million. More or less, selflessness is

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what it's the motivation. It's the foundation of service. You know,
in World War Two, upwards of seventy of all the
politicians in this country we're veterans. Now it's around more
or less. It fluctuates a little bit. I find that shocking.

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And also when we used to look at the movie
stars and the people in Hollywood, we would we note
that we would see that they themselves were veterans. Many
of them were veterans and served throughout the war in
one way or another, supporting the war effort. You don't
see that anymore. You see nonprofits. You see people um

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making money off of and and paying themselves a paycheck
to support the troops. Or I don't support the war,
but I support the troops all the while they're not
even looking at the reality of what's going on and
why we're at war. And I'm not just talking about
Hollywood people. I'm talking about politicians, activists, talk about people
on the street, some of the people that are listening

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to this show. So I gotta ask everybody, is that
as we begin this show, and as you're driving down
the road, as you're sitting on the beach somewhere, or
you're preparing to leave tomorrow for this holiday, what part

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of this struggle of what's going on in this country
right now, two and forty two years after it was
crafted by the founding fathers? What is your part in
this struggle? We talked all the time daily on this
show and in media. We talk about the mainstream media

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and the lies that are coming out, and there are lives.
We don't look at the family tree. We don't look
at the reality of socialism and communism. Socialists are being
voted in when they do UH, when they do um
questionnaires out on the street polls of young people, they
a vast majority of them support socialism. They don't even

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understand the reality of what it is. And this is
what kills me. They are children of parents who didn't
understand it. They didn't necessarily support it like these kids
do now. But they didn't they didn't study it. They
floated through life and freedom. And so now many of
them are parents, they're in the media, they're in entertainment,

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and they have failed at their jobs of raising their
children to understand what the the fourth of July. They
just call it the fourth of July, not Independence Day.
They neglect to understand what that actually is. And so
that's what I'm gonna try to help you all out
with today. We're gonna talk a little bit more about
the dignity that existed in our founding fathers, the dialogue,

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the debate, the sacrifice, the selflessness that these individuals had,
and how it directly affects on the headlines that you
see today in the news, the lack of veteran service,
the lack of politicians that are focused on what's best
for the country and strictly on what's best for their party.
Is I read to you when we come back, I'm
gonna read you part of the Declaration of Independence. You

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if you've never read this or heard it, you're going
to be shocked. And if you believe that socialism is
a good thing. If you believe that communism is a
good thing, you need to hear this because history. If
you don't protect the very freedom that you've been given,
history will repeat itself. So that's what we're gonna do today.

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We're going to educate you a little bit and we
are going to show you America, what dignity is all about.
We're gonna remind you of that, how you have dialogue
and debate and what the true cost of sacrifice really is.
Stay tuned. This is gonna be an amaze easing show.

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And as you're driving down the road, I want you
to say a prayer and thank those that have given
their lives for you, for this independence, and the founding
fathers that went out of their way their comfort zone,
put themselves last for your freedom. Go get my book,
Sheep No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.

(12:22):
It's available on Amazon, Barnes, and Noble anywhere that you
can can get books. And it's my gift to you
as a step in the right direction of awareness of
empowerment so that you can get away from learned helplessness.
This Johnathan Gilham, This is the Shawan Hannity Radio Show

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and we are just getting started. We'll be right back.
This is Jonathan Gilham back in on the Sean Hannity
Radio Show. Man. We are all over the place. You're
on terrestrial radio, You're on Serious X in Patriot channel,
and the call in number is eight hundred nine four
one seven three to six. That's eight hundred nine f

(13:07):
one Sean, And just real quick, Uh, I want to
talk to you all about, um, something that's going on
that's happened, uh last Friday. I've gotten to know some
of the people from Eric Eric Church's band. Uh. Eric
Church himself, those of you that follow country music, one
of the most talented artists that there is out there

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and has been in country music, and unfortunately his brother
passed away last Friday evening. And I just wanted to
say that they have a Brandon E. Church Memorial Scholarship Fund.
I'm gonna put that on Twitter and on Facebook, and
I want you all to think about this, because what
the money was gonna be raised to to do is

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bless others and in honor of Brandon's life, and uh,
they're gonna start a scholarship fund with this to bless
other p pole. I want you to think about as
you're driving down the road. Uh, in this Independence day,
the freedom that we have. You know, you're the taxpayers
in this country. You you are so powerful. The taxpayers

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are so powerful in this country. It's what makes this
country go forward. The things that you do for veterans,
the donations that you give, the things that you do
as a whole as a citizenry, literally change the world
and support freedom all over the globe. I don't know
if you realize that or not. It's one of the

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defining things that this citizenry can actually stand and say,
here's evidence of how powerful the people of the United
States are. It's not the government that is giving the
money to other people in other countries. It's you. The
American taxpayers are the ones that provide that money so
that we can help others, and so that we can

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have a the strongest military in the world, so that
we can be the superpower, so that you can be protected,
and so the government can continue to run your roads.
All these things are done because of you. And as
as we're going, we're gonna talk about this some more.
I want you to realize that that is what makes
this country great, and that's what the founding fathers. Uh

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intended was for the citizenry to work together to make
things great. And so as we're gonna go to break
here in just a second, I want you to remember
that Brandon E. Church Memorial Scholarship. I'll talk some more
about this throughout the day and probably on Friday as well. Um,
plut your your pocket books and donate to this. Help
them give money to to others so that uh, they

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can help others out with this scholarship in remembrance of
Brandon Church. It's an amazing thing. So we're gonna we're
gonna take a break here in just a second. And uh,
as we do, and as you're drawing down the road,
I want you to continue to focus. As I'm talking
about today, what is your role as a citizen, What
is the role of the citizen re How do we

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work together? And this is what we're gonna concentrate on
for the rest of this show. Now, one of the
things before we go, I'm also gonna be playing and
I've gotten to know these guys quite well. Um. Jeff
Hyde is one of the musicians with Eric Church's band,
and uh, I'm gonna play a couple of cuts when
we come back, I'm gonna play a cut from his

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new CD, Norman Rockwell World. You can get that on
on iTunes, you can get it at Jeff Hyde music
dot com. You're not gonna be disappointed in his music.
And as you can see, I'm a huge country music fan.
I think you guys are as well. I'm a huge
country music fan. I grew up in Arkansas. It's kind
of it's like the law and we have to be

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UH country music fans. But here's a little Eric Church.
As we go out and remember the Brandon E Church
Memorial Scholarship Fund. You can find that online and go
and donate as a try to raise money in UH
in honor of him. This is Jonathan Gillham on the
Shawan Hanny Radio Show eight D nine for one seven,
three to six. We'll be right back standing up for

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what's right with America. We're back on the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Jonathan Gilham back in for Shawn Hannity on
the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. Call in number is eight
D nine four one seven, three to six. That's eight
hundred nine one seven, three to six. If you're driving

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down the freeway right now on your way to your
Fourth of July holiday. If you're at home getting packed
or you're not going anywhere, UM call in and I'm
I want to hear from you eventually, all right, So
don't think that I'm just gonna be talking the entire time.
I'm actually going to be uh wanting to talk to
you and hear what you think about all the things

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that are going on in this country now as opposed
to the way the Founding Fathers would have intended it
to be. And that's what I want to I want
to kind of talk to you guys a little bit
right now about the Declaration of Independence. I was reading
something earlier when I was trying to seek out exactly why, um,
the Founding Fathers, what their motivation was for leaving uh

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Europe and UH striving to have this country and all
the things we always hear about, you know, people always
saying I'm constitutional, or I'm conservative, or I'm liberal, all
these they're throwing all these different things out there, and
people say that they believe that the Founding Fathers wanted this.
Some people say they think the Founding Fathers were wrong.
They think the Constitution is a living, breathing document. Here's

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why I do not believe that the Constitution was a living,
breathing document, just like I don't believe that the Bible
is something that was just written by men inspired by God.
I believe it was the hand of God that literally
wrote what he wants you to to see and to study.
It's literal wording, and I think the Constitution is the

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same way. Now. When I look at the Declaration of
Independence and I start looking at exactly how it was written,
most people don't even they can't even uh, they don't
even know any of the declaration it depends. They just
know one line, uh, and that is we hold these
truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal,

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and that they are endowed by their creator with certain
and ailable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness. Now, many people, when they get
in front of Congress or they give a speech, they
will mistake the Declaration of Independence for the Constitution. The
Declaration of Dependance is just that, it's the declaration of

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our independence from Great Britain and from a king and
a prince that were and their words a tyrant. And
here's what blows me away. Just like when you read
the Bible and you hear the same people fighting then
that are fighting now, and people say, oh, the Bible
is not true. But yet the same people, since that

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book has been around for thousands and thousands of years,
there is truth in it because things are still happening
now that we're talked about then. And when you look
at the Declaration of Independence. This is what will blow
your mind. When we scroll down on the Declaration of
Independence and we start to see that the things that

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they were fleeing from are the same exact things that
are causing problems in this country today. Here two hundred
and forty two years after after the country was created.
In the Decoration Independence, says that the history and I'm
quoting here the history of the present King of Great Britain,
this is back then, two or forty two years ago,

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is a history of repeated injuries and usertations, all having
in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over
these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to
a candid world. So they submitted the facts of their
argument to the world. Now it would be via Twitter

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or Facebook or something like that, or or mainstream media,
but listen to some of the things. I'm not gonna
read them all. Listen to some of the things that
they are saying actually occurred. He refuses. He has refused
his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for
the public good. So, in other words, this king would

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not allow laws to be created that actually did good
for the people, that were actually for the people, that
were wholesome and necessary for the public good. Now, if
that doesn't hit you up the side of the head
thinking about all that's going on in politics right now,
you need to take a break. Start looking at the

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Democrat and Republican parties and look at how Washington works.
I mean, people in Washington will tell you it doesn't
work because they don't have the most wholesome and necessary
concept of what is good for the public. It's all
about the party, and in many cases it's all about

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the ideology. Many socialists, many communists, covert communist, many people
who just do not have any care in the world
for what is best for the country outside of what
is best for their ideology or their narrative, or their
concept of what the government should be, not what it

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was intended to be. Um he is for forbidden his
governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance. I
want you to think about that. When they're talking here
in the Declaration in defense, are talking about a king.
When I'm talking about in modern day, I'm talking about
politicians and the two parties, the two party system that

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we have. We have no real separation of powers in
this country. It doesn't matter if it's Congress or the Senate,
or the judicial branch, the Supreme Court and all the
federal courts in this system, it doesn't matter. They are
all the exact same two parties. And if you think

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one politician is gonna venture too far away from what
their party's narrative is, it's not gonna happen. The mainstream
media is involved in this same game. So we're big
money brokers. So its Hollywood power people, and so what
do they do. They they forbid their own to pass
laws of the media and pressing importance. Look at immigration,

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Look at the president trying to change immigration and saying
exactly why he wants to change it. And yet the rhetoric,
the mainstream media, all these different people have twisted it
in such a way that you can't even determine what
the truth is unless which most people won't do you
listen and read exactly what the president is saying. And

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that's because where we had a king two hut two
years ago, now we have two political parties that are
on the verge of tyrannical behavior, and in many cases
not on the verge, have actually shown their behavior to
be tyrannical. He's uh, the king two u or forty
two years ago called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable,

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and distant from the the the depository of their public records,
for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with
his measures. Now, if that doesn't remind you of what's
happening in government now, where you have something that is right,
you have something that needs to be done. A wall

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needs to be built, immigration needs to be looked at,
the way we fight wars needs to be reconsidered. And
yet they will go and they'll fill a buster. They'll
go and they'll go to the media, and they will
put out narratives that are not true. They're doing that
for the exact same reason that this tyrannical king did
two and forty two years ago, to fatigue us into

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not caring and saying there's nothing we can do anyway,
and then they have exactly what they want. He has it.
He had endeavors back to ur Or forty two years
ago to prevent the population of these states for the
purpose of obstructing the laws of naturalization of foreigners, refusing
to pass others to encourage their migration to this country.

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Now you may think, well, that's obviously President Trump, But
I'm gonna challenge you there. The President is trying to
that up an immigration policy that does encourage the right
people to come here. I'm not I'm not just talking
about people have PhD s. I'm talking about people who
want to come here and be free. But there has
to be a system to do that. And where you

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think that the Democrat Party wants that, that left us
want that. They don't want that. They want to flood
the country of as many people as possible for their
own ideological reasons, not to get the right people here.
This King two d forty two years ago, as written

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in the Declaration of Independence, obstructed the administration of justice
by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judicial judiciary powers.
I mean, look at the Ninth Circuit Court look at
the way leftists work in this country. I mean it
goes on and on. When we look at what was

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written in the Declaration of Independence, and they give the
facts and state the facts as to why they were
trying to break away or were breaking away from those
tyrannical behaviors by this king in Great Britain. You see
the exact same same thing today. I can go through
all of these headlines and I can show you proof better.

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Yet you go through the headlines and with this in mind,
you will see exactly this. A declaration of independence is
not long. Go back and read this and you will
see that the exact same game is being played on
you today. So don't just go and look at it
and pick out the one thing that you want. We
hold these truths to be self evident, that all men
are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator

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with certain and unenaable rights, that among these are life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. Everybody loves that. But they
failed to scroll down further and look at the reasons
why our founding fathers declared their independence and fought to
get away. And so we need to go back, as

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I always say, back to the future. We need to
go back to that mindset and understanding not just what
they created for us here, but what they were fleeing
and why the founding fathers felt that it was important
to do it right using the dialogue and the debate
and the sacrifice and the service and the selflessness. I

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think we have that cued up. Jeff Hides Norman Rockwell World.
If you get his CD, it's uh it's number seven,
track seven. Go ahead, we'll be right back on the
Sean Hannity Radio show, Skipping stones on the lad do everything,

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Mama's cooking in the kitchen, suffer tables, getting things, and
Grandpa stands. Fine is for and Ain't no rock once again.
That's Jeff Hyde. You can find that on iTunes or

(29:11):
if at Jeff Hyde music dot Com. Go get it.
The old CD is great. And get my book Sheep
No More The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It's
available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. You and your family
should all be reading this so you can be safer
and do threat assessments on your own life. I teach
you how to do that eight nine for one, seven,
three to six. We'll be right back. This is Jonathan

(29:31):
gill I'm back in for my buddy Shawan Hannity on
the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. And right there you were
hearing Eric Church, one of my favorites, and I've gotten
to know some of the people that work with him
and the musicians that play with him, and just an
amazing group of people, including Eric herself. And unfortunately his
brother passed away, uh last Friday. And they have a

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memorial set up. It's the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund.
You can see that. I posted on Twitter and on
Facebook under Jonathan T. Gilliam and on Twitter at at
Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal and you can go and check
those out and donate. Uh. We need to get as
much money in there as we can so that they
can build up to scholarship fund in his name to

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bless others uh in uh in honor of his life.
So let's do that. That's the Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund.
And UH, We're gonna come back here in a few minutes.
We're gonna talk a little bit more, uh in the
next hour about the history of the United States. I
want to talk with Kirby Wilbur when we come back,
we're gonna talk about, uh, the founding fathers and what

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their mindset was versus now what the the Independence Day
is all about. And then also my good buddy you
may know him, Ron Bellan. He is the host of
Reaper Outdoor Survived the Hunt. It's on Mondays at nine
on the Pursuit Channel. He's gonna be coming on to
talk about being in the the the lineage of the

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funding fighters, and that's something that we don't normally discuss.
I mean, you have to realize, if you're a veteran
out there right now, you are in the direct lineage
of those men. And I would have to say women
probably in those days and age, women that gave their lives,
maybe not on the front line, but definitely in the
fight and keeping their homes safe. You are in the

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direct lineage of those men. And that's incredible when you
think about it two forty two years ago, when they
were fighting for their independence. When you put on the uniform,
when you put on your boots, when you sign up
and raise your right hand and swear to support and
defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign domestic, you are

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doing that in direct lineage of those who founded this country.
I just I don't think that the military and the
recruiters push that enough so that you can actually see
that you're a part of history. It's pretty fascinating when
you when you think about it. So we come back,
we're gonna talk about that. I'm also eventually gonna get

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to my book a little bit to talk about Sheep
no More, the art of awareness and attack survival. And
then later unwell, have Gregg Jared come in, and we're
gonna talk about kind of reversing the role what today.
It's all about how things have evolved today. So eight
hundred nine four one seven three to six hundred nine
four one seven three to six. This John the Guilham

(32:29):
Navy Seal, Federal or Marshall FBI special Agent filling in
for my good buddy Sean Hannity, and go to the
Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund and donate in honor of
Brandon Church. Let's listen a little bit more Eric as
we go out, Julie State, This is John and the Gillham,

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But we just have a lot in this show, and
had a lot to say in the first hour. But
now you know I'm listen. I'm not a historian. I
mean I've I've read a lot. I've I've studied the
Constitution and the Founding Fathers, have a degree in political
science and psychology. I've studied what motivated the Founding Fathers
to come here and to do these things. But when

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I was talking to Lauren about who I should set
up for this segment, she mentioned Kirby Wilber. He's a
k v I talk radio host. He has a degree
in history from the University of Washington and taught homeschool
high school students American history and American government and economics
for twenty years. Uh. Today, Uh, he's gonna join us
right now to talk about the fourth of July, and

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I want to get his perspective on what the founding
fathers intended and what we have morphed into. So Kirby,
welcome and uh and thanks for being here and and
teaching these young people about the reality of what this
country is all about. I just don't think that we
get that enough. Well, thanks Jonathan, No, we don't. And

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I've been honored to teach these kids for some twenty
years and continue to do so. Having radio job, you
can kind of manipulate your daytime schedule, so I've I've
got the honor of teaching these kids and their parents
trust me. And it's very important for us to understand
where we came from and why we came from there,
to understand where we are now and where we're going,
Where are we're okay, where did we come from? That's

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let's start with that we came from a group of
very dedicated men who had character and courage and conviction,
who believed it was possible for people to rule themselves,
that it was no longer necessary or right that a
king or a small council or small number of people
would rule the many. That he Coman's were endowed by
their creator with certain inalienable rights, and that they have

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the capacity for self government, and that was the moral
way to go, and that's what the American War of
Independence was about self government. Now I read earlier. I
don't know if you're listening. I read earlier some of
the Declaration Independence, and most people don't get past the
phrase about the inabable rights that all men are created equal.
They failed to go further past that to see what

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we were fleeing from because they founding fathers felt it
important to display to the world exactly what was going on.
And Uh, when we read those things, it's remarkable how
much of that is going on today, but instead of
a king, it's being caused by two political parties that
own every seat of power in governmance in the United States.

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What we had back then was we had a very
prosperous society. Americans were the most prosperous society in the world.
Bertie sh Reviley left us a loan for a very
long time. We weren't even heavily taxed, Jonathan, we were
the lightest taxed. Uh. Similar society we're in the world
in the mid eighteenth century, but the British were imposing
taxes without our consent. And it's important that we remember

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that the slogan was no taxation without representation. It wasn't
no taxation, it was that we were not represented among
those who are making the rules for us. And that's
what drove the Founding Fathers to establish a new nation
dedicated to the idea that we could rule ourselves based
on a belief in God, a belief in our rights
coming from God, a belief in our ability to govern ourselves,

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and the idea of the government. The purpose of government
was to protect our rights and no other reason. That's
why governments are instituted among men, and that we have
the right to change that government should have become destructive
of those ends, and we were changing our government because
the government we had had become destructive of the ends
of liberty. You know, it's interesting when as we I
was talking earlier, I was mentioning about a friend of

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mine whose brother dad Brandon Church Memorial Scholarship Fund. People
can go and donate to that, but I was um
I was talking about the h the American citizenry, that taxpayers,
and how there's only a few things in this country
where I think that the citizenry actually does act as
in the in according to the way that the Founding

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Fathers intended us to do. One is when we pay taxes,
and that's what really gives us our defense. That's what
allows us to help the rest of the world and
UH and fight against tyranny. And then also things like
when they go I know the sounds trivial, and I'm
sure that the Founding Fathers weren't thinking of this, but
when you go to a sporting event and they play
the national anthem and everyone stands together, that is the

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type of camaraderie and citizenship that they intended. But what
is your your thought process as to how we got
away from that? What was it because we're when you're
in freedom, in your bathe and freedom, that you become
lazy in that freedom? Or is it because of other
ideologies or other UH forms of government that have have

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secreted their ways into this country. Well, I think to
be free as a strug and the Founding Fathers knew
that it's not easy to be free in this world, Jonathan,
And most of the history of the world, we've been
slaves or serves. People have not been free. We've only
seen this liberty in the past two d and fifty years.
And I always tell my students. If you look at
the recorded history of the world is roughly five thousand years.

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The ability to the twelve inch ruler those last two
and fifty years or half an inch. So for eleven
and a half inches of the twelve inches of time,
we have been servants and slaves and subjects. We have
not been free citizens. And the burden of liberty is
really hard to carry, and people get so accustomed to it,
I think, to get tired of it. They think this
is a natural state. So many people think that, oh,

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freedom is liberty is how everyone lives. No, it's not,
and it's how everyone has lived. It's a burden. And
the forefathers saw this. Founding father saw this. One Franklin
there was a woman asking me out for the Constitutional
Convention in seventy was leaving the hall and a woman said,
Dr Franklin, what have you given us? And he replied,
A republic if you can keep it. Because the founders

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looked at this is a great experiment. Every other attempt
at this had failed, and they had no idea whether
or not we had the stamina and the conviction to
carry this through and have it survive. And you have
our our institutions academy attacking the very idea of liberty,
the very idea of America, and we get trashed in
the media. People don't learn the constitution of the Declaration anymore,

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they don't learn about the Founding Fathers, or if they do,
it's all about racism and sexism and classism. And as
you tear down those foundations of this country, a lot
of people on the left are like termites. They'll eat
away the foundation and pretty soon you think the foundation
looks very strong because it looks okay from the outside,
but the inside has rotted because they've been rotted it out.
Most Americans, I think, are very patriotic. Most Americans appreciate

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what we have. But over time that commitment wears down
and the burden gets heavy and people want relief, and
so they turned to government or turned to other forces,
and it slowly erodes. Now, what do you think if
the Founding fathers were here, what do you think they
would say, um, that we should do to get back
to that, Because I personally think that they would look

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at the two party political system that we have now
as uh detrimental to the to the republic. I think
that they would look at it as veering away from
the what the Constitution was meant to be. And I
think that they would be wise to look at it
and say that these tyrannical powers have morphed into parties

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rather than one supreme leader. Um. I think that's what
they would see. How would they what do you think
their advice would beat us? I think they would tell
Americans to get involved. Get involved on two levels. One,
get involved in politics and make sure that you elect
people regardless of party, of character and conviction, people who
commit themselves to the founding principles of America, who understand

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why government should be limited, who understand why the people
are the ones that should be listening to the idea
of consents, totive government, the idea of what government should
be small. I also think they would tell us to
get involved in our communities because in the old days,
you know, there were no welfare programs, there were no
systems of public assistance. It was you and I helping
each other. A neighbor's barn burned down, we raised that

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somebody was impoverished, We helped somebody lost their parents, we
took them in. And Americans are involved at the community level.
On on a big level. But however, we need more
because what's happened. We've gotten entired of carrying for our
neighbor so we let the government do it. We have
a great homeless problem here in Seattle, but instead of
taking them into our homes and and forcing them and

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compelling them to change their ways and get off drugs,
we create a bureaucracy which then exists solely for the
purpose of the bureaucracy, what we call the homeless industrial complex.
We need more involvement in America, on both the political
level and the social level, by good citizens who want
to carry out the vision of the founders. And if
we get involved, we can take this country back. We
don't get involved, it will fall apart. Yeah, well, that's

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the problem is. I think it's falling so fast that
it's um it's difficult to to stay ahead of it.
Because most people, as we've aided, don't read the Declaration Independence,
they don't read the Constitution. And young people I've seen
a pole there that it was over fifty percent of
young people polled are in favor of socialism, So they
don't even understand the reality of the government we have.

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Yet they're in favor of governments that are historically proven
to be tyrannical. Every parent's responsibility should be to teach
their children what it means to be an American and
guide them along the way. Don't let the schools do
what you do it. This week, we should take time
with our kids to read the Declaration of Independence. And
Calvin Coolidge, who I think was a great president, gave

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a speech in ninety six and Philadelphia the one and
fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, and that speech
which you can find online just google Calvin Coolidge speech
Declaration Independence. He explains the Declaration Independence in America better
than anyone ever has, Reagan all the others cooliesh has

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it down. And if we just read those two documents
this week and the parent us and explain them to
the kids, we can start taking this country back. But
liberty is something we have to pass down generation generation, Jonathan,
and we have to hope enough people get it, and
the parents play a very important role on that. Yeah,
that's definitely that I think. Definitely, if you see the
reality of majority of problems in this country, they stem

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from a lack of parenting. People aren't aware enough or
people become nefarious in nature because of it, and it
just spirals out of control where the bad people always
will try to climb to the top in a position
of power, and the rest of the people that aren't
educated enough to realize what's going on, they don't even
realize the power that we have as a people. So right,
too many people trust the schools and don't interfere and

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ask what are you what are you learning in school?
What did you learn today? They don't interact with their kids.
They ascend the schools do a good job. The advantage
I had in teaching homeschoolers is the parents care. The
parents care enough to forestall the second career in many
cases to teach their children, and I was directly accountable
to the parents and that created a great relationship with
the kids. All too often we don't get concerned with

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what the kids are learning and the stuff they learned.
The public schools in many cases just isn't right. Accountability.
That's the thing. We put people in charge. We don't
hold them accountable. We we we have kids and we
don't make them accountable as well. Listen Kirby wilbur K
v I talk radio host UH You have had a
long career in teaching the history of this country. How

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do people find and follow you? They can catch us
at k v I dot com or Kirby Wilberg Radio
Facebook with a Facebook catch Kirby Wilber Radio or at
KBI dot com and my email us there. I'd be
happy to answer to the questions contact to anybody. I
love interacting with people. And Jonathan and well, thank you
for your service to this country. Is because it men
like you that we are where we are today, and

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I thank you for that. You got to my friend.
I'm gonna come back with Ron Bell and here in
just a minute, retired master chief from the Seal Teams
and one of my greatest mentors in life. And it's
gonna be an honor to have him on following in
the footsteps of Kirby as we talk about this and
the reality of sacrifice and service. Uh, make sure that
you go check me out on Twitter, Jay Gilliam Underscore

(45:07):
Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. And I'm
pushing a couple of things today. I really want people
to uh to think about this. Go get my book
Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
It's available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. It's basically a
book that will take your workbook to take you through
and teach you and your family how to look at

(45:28):
their lives from the attacker's point of view and do
threat assessments on your life to build better defenses or
mitigate these circumstances. Schools need this, Principles need this. UH daughters, sons, parents,
UH mayors, the president should have one of these these books.
Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival.
And again, a good friend of mine, Eric Church, the

(45:51):
country music singer. His brother passed away on Friday. Brandon
Church Memorial Scholarship has been set up. You can go
and look at that online and donate and help them
set up a scholarship fund and remembrance of him. Do that,
and then also one last thing, We're gonna play another
little bit of snippet of music here just a minute.
When we come back from my good buddy Jeff Hyde

(46:11):
and his his album Norman Rockwell World, go get that album.
We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gillham. We are
just like this's like disco. We're bringing disco back on
the John handy radio show. Yeah, that's gonna go real
nicely into what I'm gonna talk about next, the Constitution.

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So listen, folks. Uh, my life, my adult life has
been it's revolved around service to this country. I you know,
I wasn't the greatest Navy seal, I wasn't the greatest
investigator in the FBI. UM, But I'm not really concerned
with whether or not I was the greatest. My motivation
in a foundation of why I did the things I've
done has been because of service and selflessness. I don't

(46:55):
want to throw it in people's faces. I just I
want people to understand that you can actually go out
and serve and sacrifice. And for those young people who
are afraid because they may have to go to war
because they're not gonna get rich, I'm here to tell
you will be rich whether or not you get to
go to war or not. You will be rich, and

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uh the the most amazing way. You'll be rich in
meaning You'll be rich and understanding. You'll be rich and awareness.
And it's very important that you remember that and that
when you try to make the decisions of your life,
that you will think about this service and UM, I

(47:39):
wrote a speech a while back. I'm not gonna read
it right now, but it's I'll try to read it
before the the end of the show. And it's about
the perils of freedom. And it's interesting because when we
look at freedom, and we look at the fact that
we grew up in this free country, we take for
granted a lot of the times. The things that we
wake up to on a daily basis a pull east

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force that is not out too to censor you, but
to but to protect you. A government that was put
in place to ensure your freedoms and your protection, not
to make sure that you work for them. These are
things that you wake up to and you don't even
realize it because you haven't studied it, because you were
born into it. You wake up in a country where

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you don't have to be worried about being murdered because
of your religious beliefs and your sexuality, your gender. You
live in a country full of opportunity. You live in
a country full of freedom. So we're gonna come back.
We're gonna talk a little bit about those who serve
and those and the realization that you are in the

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direct lineage of those that fought for our freedom. Jonathan
Gillam filling in for Shaun Hannity. Go get my book
Sheep No More, The Art of Awareness and Attack Survival
will be right back. Well today you got Jonathan Gillham
filling in or Gilliam, However I say Gilliam because it's
hard for people to spell it if I say gil him.
But Jonathan T. Gilliam, former Navy Seal, Federal Air Marshal,

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security contractor, FBI special agent, author, now media personality. And
I worked in a grocery store a long time ago
when I was in Arkansas. I'm from Arkansas, and I
give Arkansas a big shout out. Um, I wanted to
bring in somebody now that we're we've been talking all
day about what the founding fathers intended, what the reality

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is of now in this country, and the reality of
what has happened to the free citizenry and how they've
been They've been misguided, they have gotten skewed as to
the reality of how you obtain freedom and keep it.
And I couldn't think of anyone better to bring in
one of my greatest mentors in life, um Ron Bellan,

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Let me just tell you a little bit about this guy.
He's retired Navy Seal Master Chief. He's hosted the first
and only tactical survival and hunting show, re Ro Outdoors
Survived the Hunt that's on the Pursuit Channel at nine
pm on Monday's um And I'm gonna ask you a
little bit about that show here in a minute. Ron.
But Ron was when I was a civilian and I

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had done my whole package. It took me three years
of being turned down to to go into the seal teams.
It wasn't like it is now where you have dive
motivators and seal recruiters. There was nothing, and my recruiters
didn't understand anything about putting in a package. Nobody had
gone uh into the seal teams from arks and trying
to go through AFSCAR candidate school at that point. So

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at this point I had to find a seal to
give me my p T tests. So I went down
to UH Below, New Orleans where they had a special
boat unit, and Ron was down there. And when he
met me at the gate, just to describe what Ron
looked like, cross between uh Tom Selleck and Sasquatch. He's
about that big and he had that Yeah, that Tom
Selleck mustache and I'm like, are you kidding me? This

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is what they really looked like. So, you know, I
did my PD test, I get in and then I
end up going to Seal Team four where Ron was
at and he put me through land warfare, and we've
had and how somehow we've ended up in uh the
uh in media at the same time. And Ron has
had a storied career. I would, you know, give my
left leg to try to uh recreate the career that

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he had in the Seal Team. So Ron, uh thanks
for being here. And I just got a text. I
can't say his name, but I'll just tell you his
code name, Dumpster Dan. Uh Master Chief says hello, alright, awesome,
I'm doing good. But listen, I want to ask you.
You know you we all, all those who serve, we

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fall in direct lineage of the founding fighters, not just
the founding fathers, but the founding fighters in this country,
the ones who fought against tyranny. What is it that's
going on in this country? You think where young people
don't want to serve because they don't want to go
to war. Young people don't want to serve because it's

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it's not something that they you know, it's cool, it's
or they deem it something that that those let those
other people go serve what has happened to this country, um,
and their understanding of freedom that those of us that
serve understand what are they missing? I think it's uh
what there was. What it is media. It's not only media,

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but the ability to uh of our technology these days too.
You know, the left wing, the left side, whatever you
want to call it, is actually you know, really good
at what they do. And that's getting whatever word they
have out on social media or the big time media.
And that's what these young people are listening to. And

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it's infiltrated into our education system alway from elementary school
always through universities. And I think as I travel the
United States, and I travel it consistently, and I get
to talk to schools and talk to these children, and
after I give my spiel or you know, even if
it's a come up and meet me, there's so many
good America's out there. I just think we're really tainted

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with the ability of media, uh, and it's out it's
it's uh, you know, because it's easy to get to.
Back in the day World War two, people have to
wait for reels to come back and find out what
was going on. And now it's just uh, you know,
wake up and look at your phone. Yeah, and and
the things that they're seeing are easily manipulated. I would

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turned on linked In the day. I'm on all these
different social media platforms, and on LinkedIn, people post stuff
on there. I don't understand why. But they posted this,
you know, a question, what is this? And the video
was of all these car crashes and intersections, but it
was just one car and there was nothing there, and
it was slamming into something as if they were trying
to make people believe that some ghost entity was in

(53:47):
the intersection of these places. And I looked at the
first comment and somebody just said, editing. That's it. It's
just edited to make it. There's gonna be people that
believe that's reality. And I can't help but think that
the media does the same thing. Oh. Absolutely. So you
look at YouTube, you look at Facebook, and you look
at all these things that it's supposed to be free speech. Well,
free speech only goes so far, and it's as far

(54:08):
and left as you can go. So what that means
is like YouTube and Facebook and Google and I can
say that with Repreammunition, we have an immunition company, yet
we cannot pay them to advertise they actually have ammunition
and weapons listed with pornography and illegal drugs. Yeah, so

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that's what our young folks are actually seeing. And you know,
it looks like Parkland. Then department shooting happened down in Florida,
which is horrible, terrific. You know, they didn't get to
see those other kids that were actually I wish there
was somebody with a gun there and then and having
that law enforcement actually, you know, step up to the
plate and say hey, we were wrong. No, they went

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after it with social media and the left just got
a hold of where they could actually go out and
put these kids in front of millions of millions of Americans,
if not the world, and say, oh, it wasn't It
had nothing to do with the persons who did wrong,
and everything to do with the gun. And the gun
doesn't jump in someone's hand and and cause damage, it's
the person behind it. So that's the problem. And that's

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why we look at America like this nowadays, like, man,
it's really changed, Well, it hasn't. Politicians have been crazy
since our founding fathers George Bush, I mean George Bush,
actually George Washington said if we divided into two parties,
will divide this country in half, and eventually it will
go back to war. And it has. Yeah. I wonder
though if they saw the reality of the tyrannical I

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guess that's probably what he was talking about. But the
reality of how these two parties have actually are using
the same tactics as the tyrannical king that they fled from.
It's amazing when you read the Declaration of Independence and
the and the bullet points. Yes, they used the bullet points.
And that's how I know that these people were military minded,
because they used if they would have had power point

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back then, it would have been a bullet point for
him and they but they they actually put bullet points
to show exactly, um what the king was doing. And
it's very similar to what's happening now. Oh absolutely absolutely.
I mean, you look back in the history. We had
a civil war, we had revolutionary war, which we fought
against ourselves. It wasn't another It wasn't the Dutch of

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the Spanish that came over here and started fighting for America.
It was English, a lot of English, and that started fighting,
and we did trying to link up with some French
and that because we had to in Spanish, because we
had to because of their nable and getting arms and
stuff like that. But really it was English against English.
That's what the Revolutionary War was. So in itself, it
was a civilian civil war. And then you look at

(56:38):
our actual civil war that we had with Lincoln being
our first legitimate republican president. And if I'm wrong, and
does anybody correct me, but as our first legitimate republican president,
we had two parties and look what happened. George Washington
was absolutely right. And now we look at today and
we got Donald Trump as the president. Not one thing
he does. I don't care what media stand is out there.

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They can't just go, oh, he's done great. No one
sat down with the North Korean dictator before and had
such an impact that we're having now. Yea, it may
or may not come true, but at least he's doing something.
You know, um when it was something you we talked
about on my show The Experts that I that I
do in the evenings. It's going to turn into a

(57:24):
podcast now, but one of the things that we had
talked about was that. I asked you, I said, what
was different when you finally went to war? What was
different from the training that we went through? And you
said that it's a three sixty degree all the way
around you, uh mission where you have airplanes, you have ships,

(57:45):
you have other forces, and it's not just static and
straight in front of you. It is literally you have
you have to consider all the assets and things that
you have in the enemy from a three sixty degree
of you. I think that the American people offer from
the same problem is that they haven't They don't realize
that they're in the fight and they don't have this

(58:07):
degree view. They just look at this is the government
they're screwing us over, or I need this and they
need to give me this, or I want to be
recognized and so you give me recognition. They don't realize
that there are so many other things in play, um
that that make this country great or make the citizenry weak. Yeah.

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So I always tell people this, if you want to
change America, number one, vote, If you want to complain
about the way America is and you didn't vote, you
don't really have anything to stand on. And here's your
three sixty politics, your three sixty starts at the home.
Who's your township supervisor, who is your city council? Who

(58:51):
is your congressman, your senator? Is not just the President
of the United States and his cabinet, not even close.
When the n r A fights for the Second Amendment,
everybody thinks that they're hiring a bunch of lawyers d C.
To combat you know, whatever that president or administration is.
Or No, they're fighting city ordinances across the United States.
They're they're fighting state legislation across the United States. There's

(59:13):
three hundred. There's a war going on between left and rights.
And I like to think that, you know, we're common
sense people. The majority of Americans are common sense. If
you just say, hey, this is a common sense party,
not independent party, common sense party, I think more people
would sign up for that. Because I do have friends
that are Democrats, that are gun owners, they're hunters, they
believe in first second, they believe in the Constitution, they

(59:35):
believe in that stuff, and they're just common sense. They
just have some different beliefs. Then on the other side,
and the last but not at least thing I'll tell
you about, you know, the three six fight. When I
look at my battlefield, and I want to set my
battlefield up. You know, life is like that. You know,
we set up our goals, we set this up. Who
do I want to put my self on? On who side? Why?

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Look at the Democrats side, and I look at who's
been in power in the Democrats side, had they legitimately
ever owned a company and created thousands and or millions
of jobs? But even on their own dime, have they
created jobs? No. On the Republican side, I look at
guys like Trump, He's created tens of thousands of jobs
personally with his own empire, his own business. I look

(01:00:19):
at you know, any Republican that's out there, and in
a lot of cases, most of those Republicans have actually
owned businesses before they got in the politics from one
way or another. If you look at the Clinton administration,
then you look at the Obama administration, they never created
a job one other than you know, maybe an autobiographer, writer,
or you know, uh security or something. You know, at

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Bernie Sanders, you didn't have a job to his forty
depending on the state. Listen to these people who can't
take a dollar and make it into a hundred, I
would much rarely listen to somebody's gonna take a million
dollars and be a ten billionaire and then have somebody
running me that can't create a job in a in
a Walmart. So I got about uh, I got about

(01:01:01):
a minute left here before I got to go to
a break. So let me just ask you this retired
Navy Seal mass Chief Ron bell In, the host of
the first and only tactical survival and hunting show Reaper Outdoors,
survived the hunt on the Pursuit channel. Um, if you
could tell the American people one thing that that that
you think that they should consider um and they're understanding

(01:01:22):
what's true and what's not true in media because you're saying,
that's one of the biggest detractors we have from following
what the founding fathers attended. What would you tell the
American people Listen to your neighbor. Listen to your neighbor
and your friends, because that's the people you have to
concern yourself with. And then also travel, travel United States,

(01:01:43):
go see things, Go talk to people. Quit being in
this hole of looking down at your phone and never
bringing your head out of the cloud because it's a
legitimate thing now and talk to people and if you do,
you're gonna be generally surprised about the people that are
really out there. It's a small number people that are
causing hate and discontent. It's a larger number who really
make America what it is and it's always been great

(01:02:05):
and will continue being great. Amen, listen, brother, thank you
old Dan that's out there listening as well. Thank you
Dan and and all the rest of the men that
I served with. Royan. I can't thank you enough for
all that you've done for this country. I say this
every time you're on um. You have paid a huge
price for this country and you are a legend in
my mind, and I think a legend in many people's minds,

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and somebody that is a great mentor. And I can't
thank you for all you've you've done. Thank you, Jonathan.
I appreciate you having me on tonight. And uh, don't
forget folks Independence Day tomorrow, and uh, for those who
have carried the torches for centuries, I think that take
a minute and think about that, you know, because we've
lost a lot of good friends, and we just lost
the state trup for up here by my hometown and yesterday,

(01:02:49):
and uh, you know, it's been a big hit actually
up here. So the thing is those people that protect
us abroad and here, you know, we've got to give
him a minute of silence and a minute of thought.
And I think that, Uh don't go far with everybody
out there. You got a brother retired, maybe you got it,
retired Navy Seal Master Chief Ron Belling, God bless your brother.
We'll be back on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show in

(01:03:11):
just a minute. This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for
Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. Man. What
a great group of guests so far. Um, I've been
having a lot of tweets come out. Kirby Wilbur was
who we had on earlier. He's a kve I talk
radio host. People don't want to know how they can
find him. Just look up Kirby Wilbur k v I

(01:03:32):
Talk Radio and Ron Bellan. He's retired Navy Seal mass Chief,
one of my great mentors uh in the seal teams. Uh, Folks, listen,
I got just got a second here, go get my
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(01:03:55):
do threat assessments on your own life. Call in eight nine, one, seven,
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We'll be right back. This is Jonathan Gill, my team
back there. Man. They're keeping me on top of things today,
Ethan and Lauren and there's like fifty other people that
work back here making this show go every day. I

(01:04:17):
can't thank them enough for having me on. And tomorrow
it's such an important day for this country, the Independence Day.
We've been talking about the founding fathers, what they intended, uh,
and I wanted and we just talked to Ron bell
In a few minutes ago, Mass Chief from the Seal Teams,
one of my mentors, and so we wanted to bring in.
You know, I'm a huge dog person and uh, those
of you know that I just lost my good buddy Rico. Uh.

(01:04:39):
He was almost eighteen years old. He passed away May seven,
lived an amazing life, buried in Arkansas next to my
other dog Jesse. She was my pride and joy and um,
and so I figured, you know, I don't know if
you remember if you listen to this show regularly. We
used to have a dog in her name, Treat, and
she was an amazing dog. She was a service dog
and she was going through the training. P assistant Lauren was,

(01:05:01):
I guess you were kind of mentoring her, right, Lauren.
I was a volunteer puppy raiser. So that means that
you take the dogs, um, when they're puppies, and you
raise them, You give them a good home, you socialize them,
you teach them all the basic training, and then they
go back for their advanced training and then hopefully they
pass and become full fledged service talks and what is

(01:05:22):
the update on Treat. By the way, Um, she has
been placed with a veteran through the PTSD program. I
loved her. She was so awesome. I know we miss
her when you try to clip her tone nails. She
didn't want anything to do with that. She would come
a long way. Yeah good so Um. The Canine Companions
for Independence is the nation's oldest largest assistance assistant I

(01:05:43):
can't say that word assistance dog organization UH, serving children, adults,
and veterans with disabilities. And interesting thing about them is
that their forty third birthday is tomorrow on Independence Day.
I don't know if if you all did that on purpose,
but yeah, they did on purpose. So I think that's
a great way to remember when you started your company. So, uh,

(01:06:04):
we brought in um one of the one of the
recipients of of one of the dogs from there, and
he is a former US Marine, a third Battalions, Second
Marine Regiment, Scout sniper. His name's Caleb Davidson. Let me
just go through a little bit through his his resume
of his career here. He started off as a male model.

(01:06:26):
I'm just adding that in now. He joined the Marine
Corps in April two thousand and seven. Uh. He was
in the United States Marine Corps third Italian Second Marine Regiment,
Scout Sniper Platoon. He deployed to Afghanistan in two thousand
eleven to the Helman Province. He got out the Marine
Corps in two thousand twelve UH and was paired with
Velvet and two thousand and fifteen, Velvet is the dog.

(01:06:46):
She's in here with us as well. Can she You said?
She can speak right, She's let's see if she'll do it.
She's a little shot in the air. But we'll see
here it speak. She's try. There you go, quiet, good girl, Yeah,
there you go. See that's what I'm talking about. That's
the bond between man and dog right there. What a voice,

(01:07:09):
She's got a powerful voice. Um. So he was paired
with Velvet, who you just heard there in two thousand
and fifteen. She's a six year old Labrador Golden Retriever
mix and it was one of the first canine companions
for independence dogs to be paired with a veteran UH
in a v A study, and Velvet's training is tailored
to helping veterans with PTSD UH diagnosis. Um. And she's

(01:07:31):
just she's what else do you have to say about her?
Just amazing? What has it done for you to be
with her? Well, I mean they they train her. There's
over forty different commands that she knows. But it makes extensive,
extensive training, and so she can do a lot for
me in that respect. But the biggest impact Velots had
on my life is the fact that she's a companion.
She's something some you know, an animal that I can

(01:07:52):
take with me everywhere and uh and and that's always there,
something that gives me a purpose and um, just something
I can spend time with and enjoy a lot with.
You know a friend of mine, uh that is amazing
American patriot and and uh his name is John. He's
down in uh in New Jersey. He's done a lot
of metal work for my show and and help me

(01:08:13):
out with a lot of stuff. He and Trish both
Trisha's uh, his companion down there. They they have had
succession of dogs throughout their lives and they ended up
getting a parrot. I think he's a parrot. Pete's huge.
But he because he lives to be like eighty and
so he said he got tired of burying dogs because
of the emotional because people who love dogs, they do

(01:08:33):
become a companion. I mean my dogs were like my kids,
you know, and uh, they they become somebody who in
a in a lot of ways, when you have anxiety,
when you have that stress, they are a consistent hero
in the way that they rescue you. That's right. Yeah,
they're family member. Yeah, they're one of us. Has there
been times where you've experienced now where you know, if

(01:08:56):
if Velvett wasn't around U, there would be a different situation.
It would be a different outcome to situations. Absolutely. Yeah,
those days I have, you know, off days or whatever,
just like everybody. But it's those days that I can
rely on her, I can look at it, I can
pet her and just interact with her. Maybe go take
your swimmings because she loves doing that, so she always
gives me that outlet. It's something to do, you know, essentially,
when I don't think a lot of people realize when

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you're in the military, your life goes It doesn't matter
what you do in the military. You're you're in the military.
Your life is a hundred miles an hour. You show
up and you're on a ship. You may be chip
and paint all day, but your life still has meaning
and purpose, and you're being told what to do, and
you're in service and people care about your service. And
when you get out. There's two things that I think
we lose that if you've had if you have PTSD

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or if you just have PTS, which is postraumatic stress,
your life goes from meaning to even though we still
mean a lot, uh, it goes to little meaning in
your mind in the public's eye. You go from a
job that keeps you busy and a hundred percent of
time too. Sometimes nothing, and you're painionship. That camaraderie is

(01:10:03):
instantly gone. It's I can only equate it to the
day you graduated high school and the next day you
wake up, you have no homework and nobody that you
hung out with for twelve years is anywhere around. And
a dog can do so much to fill that void. Yep, absolutely, yeah,
it blows my mind what she does. Do you work
with her to do more training yourself? Are you integrated

(01:10:26):
with her training? How does that work? Yep? So I
can teach her basically whatever I'd like to teach her.
I mean, she knows the commands that she got coming
straight out of training from mechanic commands for independence, but um,
we can kind of tailor their training to whatever we like.
So she explaining with toys, of course, being a dog,
and so one of the first commands that I taught
her outside of her original commands was clean up. And
so she'll spread her toys all over the floor like

(01:10:47):
any other dog. And I'll go point to a toy
and tell her cleaned up, and she'll take it and
go drop it off right in her little box. And
I'll go another toy and tell her clean up, and
she'll take it from any other room and go put
it in that one single box, put them all away,
just like any kid. Typical marine. First thing he teaches
is to clean up. Hey, we're not talking about crayons yet,
so we're all right. Yeah, But when it comes to
you know, you can't uh, that was the whole thing.

(01:11:08):
Until your weapons are cleaned. You can't have a beer.
That's the whole thing when it comes to you know,
when you're in the fielder, when you're in training. And
so that's typical of a marine, good marine to teach
his dog to clean up. That's that's pretty awesome. So
what you let me just ask you this real quick
because we are limited on time here. Um. I want
to ask you two things. First and foremost is what
are the qualifications for somebody to be to to get

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a service dog like this that's a veteran And how
do they go about doing this? I think there's a
lot there's a lot of veterans out there that don't
think they're qualified or they just don't know how, and
so they never pursue it. Right, Well, I got lucky enough.
I went through the v A when they had that study.
But obviously you have to have a primary diagnosis of PTSD. UM.
But other than that, I mean, there's there's several different

(01:11:50):
organizations throughout the country that are provide dogs for vets.
So they can always refer to any of the local organizations.
I know, can can I compan its for independence UM,
They're currently in the process. They've got a pilot program
going on right now to provide service dogs for veterans.
But like I said, still in the process. I think
she's trained specifically for PTSD, like she recognizes certain things

(01:12:11):
that have to do with PTSD. She does yep, and
her commands are based on veterans with PTSD as well.
If I turn it on light searching rooms, anything providing
like a block position in public, all sorts of different
things like that. So and but for other veterans, I
would recommend this, I know you would that maybe they
don't have PTSD, but they just got out they have
PTS where they're they're stressed, they don't have that meaning anymore.

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Getting a dog is just an amazing even if you
rescue it from the pound, it's uh, it's an amazing
thing to change your life and give you meaning again
it is yep, and not even you know, just for everybody,
not even veterans, anybody to have a dog. That just
makes the world of difference. So let me see us
before we go to break. This has nothing to do
with velvet, uh, but in a way it kind of does.

(01:12:53):
You have been have been a marine, You paid a
huge price for their freedom of this country. Would you
recommend for those people that are driving down the road,
those people are home listening to this show, um, and
they're wanting I'm seeing a great disconnect between the parents
and the children. Parents weren't educated enough in history and service,
and the children are not educated at all. And what

(01:13:16):
would you suggest to people, um and understanding what services
all about, how important is and what it actually does.
Even though you have made these sacrifices and you've had
uh these issues when you got out, would you do
it again? And what would you recommend to other people
or not recommend? What would you tell other people to
help them realize how important services and what it does

(01:13:39):
to you on the inside. Well, I'll start off by
saying that I was over and by the North Cove
um the Manhattan the other day, and I looked over
and saw the Statue of Liberty, and I know a
lot of the locals that might take it for granted
just because they see it every day. But I just
kind of hit home, like I just got goose bumps
just looking at the Statue of Liberty for something like that.

(01:14:01):
But I guess the biggest thing is I would definitely
do it again, without any question. I do it again.
You make that camarader you make that brothership with with
those guys that you're with, and there's nothing that can
compare to that. So now do you think that that
what you see in a lot of the young people today? Um,
and they're afraid. They don't want go on the military
because they're afraid to They're afraid to go to war. Um.

(01:14:23):
You know you people do come back with injuries, people
do get killed, But ultimately, uh, standing um at the
ready for freedom. What does that do knowing that you
did that, what does that fill you with? What is
that that you can convey to them? Excitement? That pride?
Pride is the biggest thing in a legacy. Absolutely. I mean,
if you and I died today, we have a legacy

(01:14:44):
that we actually stepped up to the plate and served
regardless of regardless of you know, whether you're in combat,
regardless of whether or not you come home with an injury.
The fact is you when when you die, we all will.
You will have a legacy that's pretty amazing. Only one
percent of the population and gets that now, right, And Uh,
we're here for the most eighty years, dead forever or gone.

(01:15:06):
I mean we're not. I believe we live forever, but
but gone from this earth. It's it's pretty amazing when
you think about that. And and even serving in just
the military is great, but being in the brotherhood of
the Scott Sniper community is as a whole nother world.
Oh yeah, we could do a whole show on that.
We'll have you back and we'll talk about that, and
I'm good, and we'll talk about your service, we'll talk
about who you're with. I'd love to have you talk
about that. Um Kanaan Companions for Independence, as I said,

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it's the nation's oldest and largest assistance dog organization, serving children, adults,
and veterans with disabilities. And their birthday is tomorrow their
forty three birthday. Forty three is my favorite number, is
Richard Petty's number. Uh, And you can visit them at
c c I dot org to learn more and can
we have Velvet speak one more time before we go
to break? Here we go speak, Here we go. She's

(01:15:52):
getting up. She's intense. White man, that's a park like God.
Bless you, brother, Thank you for your service. Happy Independence
Day to your wife and to everybody else out there
that is served, and to Velvet and all the service
dogs out there, all the police dogs, all the canines
that just do so much for Scott Blusher, brother, thank you,

(01:16:13):
you got it. This is John the gill And filled
in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show.
You can find me on Twitter Jay Gilliam, Underscore Seal
and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. We're gonna be
back here in just a minute. Talk to Greg Jarrett,
you know him from Fox News, and we're gonna talk
about the reality of what's happening in this country today
and how far we've come from what the founding fathers intended.
Go get my book Sheep No More, The Art of

(01:16:35):
Awareness and Attack Survival. It's this is John the gill
And filled in for my good buddy Sean Hannity Shaun
Hannity Radio Show. Man, that was awesome having Caleb in here.
And uh, one interesting thing that I forgot to say
is that he goes to uh Utica College I think
it is, and uh so Velvet has been going to

(01:16:56):
every class that he's gone to. He's trying to get
her a diploma as well, which I think is is awesome.
Uh well, Ethan pointed out she's better, She has a
better attendance right than most students, so she definitely get
her diploma. Yeah, she's been. And the other thing I
forgot to mention is that c c I dot org
that it's free for veterans. They don't play anything for that,
uh for the service for the service dog. And that's

(01:17:18):
a huge, huge amount of money that they put into that.
And so I'm getting a lot of a lot of
tweets from people, uh a lot from veterans and people
that have been chiming in on different things. I just
wanted to say a few of these things. Um Timothy
Bell Latimer, he's listening. Uh, he wrote, reading the Founders
is necessary, but if you want to understand why uh

(01:17:40):
they thought the way they did, you have to read
and discuss what they read. Uh lock uh Berkeley, Um,
Voltaire Plato. They read all these things. These people were
very very well read. Uh. This could go on and on,
Thomas Paine, and you should read these things, you know.
That's the thing about in this day and age. If
it's not u uh in a meme, then people don't

(01:18:02):
want to They don't want to read, they don't want
to learn it. Which there is a good meme though
that Kevin Stucky on Twitter posted and he said, um, uh,
if you want to learn about what it what it
is to protect this country, what the country needs that,
there's an app for it. Uh. It's called the Constitution.
That's the app. Uh. See what else we have here
on Twitter? Um, there was a see there's oh this

(01:18:26):
is somebody brought this up. It's in Russian, so I
can't read what this is. But they were talking about
how there's no rule of law. We haven't even talked
about the news of today. Um, but I ran ah
on he Uh he gets a sweetheart plea deal. The
d o J is only going to uh can charge
him with bank fraud and uh somehow he's escaped any

(01:18:49):
other charges. Folks. When we come back, we're gonna talk
to Greg Jarrett in just a second. You've seen him
on Fox News. He's got a new book out, and
we're gonna talk about what has happened in this county
train where how far we've gotten away from what the
founding fathers intended. This senior executive service, which I've talked
about on this show before. That's all the the high
end political appointees and uh and executives in the government,

(01:19:13):
how they seem to get away with They probably would
get away with murder, uh if they tried to murder somebody,
but people that are connected to them also get away
with stuff. Peter Struck, uh Page, the attorney that was
having the affair with Peter Struck. All these people, uh McCabe,
Comy uh Mueller, Clinton's now now the all One brothers,

(01:19:37):
all of them, They're all they all get away with stuff.
It's amazing. We're gonna talk about it when we come back.
Go get my book Cheap No More, The Art of
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(01:19:59):
on Facebook. Nathan T. Gilliam, We'll be right back. This
is John the Gilham filling in for my good buddy
Sean Handy real quick Ethan before we bring on Greg Jared.
I wanted I don't know if Greg. I guess Greg's
on here. I've really wanted him to hear. Uh this
music from good buddy of mine. Jeff Hyde. He is
one of the musicians that you see playing on stage

(01:20:20):
with Eric Church, the country music star, and he's got
it his incredible song and it's called it's called fiction.
Let's play just a few seconds of that, just down
fiction to keep up with the truth. I can't ye

(01:20:45):
enough fiction, keep up with the truth, I think Greg.
I think that says it all right there, wouldn't you agree, hey, Johnathan,
great to be with a good song. And yeah, it
has been a fiction for two years since the FBI
and the Department of Justice started investigating Donald Trump for

(01:21:08):
so called collusion, which is not even a crime excepting
antitrust law. And they never had any evidence of a
crime to justify a criminal investigation, so they changed it
early on to a counter intelligence investigation. It turns out
we now know they had no intelligence to justify the

(01:21:30):
intelligen counter intelligence probe, and then of course it morphed
into this absurd special counsel probe by Robert Muller and
his team of partisans. So yeah, fiction, that's a beautiful
song to summarize what's happened. That's and that's Jeff Hyde.
You can get that on iTunes and Jeff Hyde music
dot com. But let me just say this. You have

(01:21:51):
a book that's coming out, and those of you you
know here, I don't have to really tell people who
you are, because I gotta tell you you have one
of the most recognizable says. I think that's in television today.
When I remember the first time I was on set
with you over at Fox News, I was sitting across
me going I felt the same way when I was
across from Heraldo. I was like, I can't believe I'm
across from Greg Jarrett. I mean, your voice is just

(01:22:13):
that recognizable. But you've written a You've written a book.
It's getting ready to be released. It's called the Russian
host hoas the Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton. Um,
it's available for pre sale right now on Amazon. Uh,
how much when you look at this, okay, and when
you were doing your research for this and you cover
these stories, Um, how much of this stuff is for

(01:22:36):
somebody like yourself that's in the media is mind blowing
because you report stuff all the time about what's going
on in government, and government has been corrupt, you know,
for as long as governments have been around. But this
has to be mind boggling, you know. Frankly, I've never
seen such a fraud perpetrated on the American public since

(01:22:59):
Water Gig, quite frankly. And I was, you know, a
young man when that took place. And to think that
top officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI, Uh,
they're the ones who colluded, uh, in order to clear
Hillary Clinton. And then they went about framing Donald Trump.

(01:23:20):
And actually, you know, Jonathan, they did it. They started
the Trump Russian collusion case on the very day, within
hours of James Comey absolving Hillary Clinton in is now
infamous news conference July fIF two and sixteen, Almost simultaneously,
the FBI was meeting for the very first time with

(01:23:42):
this former British spy. They were doing this in London
on the same day that Comy was clearing Clinton, they
were meeting with him and he was handing over this
dossier and I you know, it's published, people can look
at it online. It is a far on its face,
it is totally preposterous. In any intelligence semi intelligent person

(01:24:07):
looking at this dossier would have immediately said, oh that
you know, this is fiction. This is the work of
a really bad first time novelist. Uh. You know, anonymous sources,
second third, fourth hand hearsay none of it would ever
be usable or provable in a court of law. And

(01:24:29):
yet the FBI ran with it in order to destroy
Donald Trump. And you know, this is the arrogance of
power of people like James Comey, Andrew McKay, Peter Struck,
Lisa Page. The list goes on and on, and power corrupts,
and as the old saying goes absolute power corrupts absolutely.

(01:24:53):
And this is what happened. And when you look at
the fact, the fact that aren't readily reported, uh that
this sime uh intelligence operative from Europe, from from Great
Britain was also a paid FBI informant at one point
that the dossier that he wrote just happened to be
written precisely in a way that a FISA court judge

(01:25:16):
could approve it um. Even though normally the process that
these verification that these uh something like this dossier would
go through is extreme and most get kicked back. UH.
This only went through a minor review and then was
approved as a piece of evidence. It is that from
when I look at this from a former FBI investigators

(01:25:39):
UH viewpoint, I look at entrapment, the whole thing looks like,
we need some evidence. Let's make it. Okay, we got it, now,
let's get it legitimized. They did that, and then they
pinned on the president. That's the way this stuff is worked.
And it was all paid for, by the way, about
the Hillary Clinton campaign, and then the Democratic National Committee
spent more than a million dollars fulling it to Fusion GPS,

(01:26:03):
who then gave it to the British spy was apparently
paying uh some of these alleged Russian contacts that he had.
He hadn't been in Russian in twenty years, and he
didn't have any contacts left in Russia. And the fact
that it was paid for by Democrats in Clinton was
concealed from the face judges who were reviewing the application

(01:26:27):
for a warrant wire tap the Trump campaign. And there
is a veiled, a cryptic reference in two footnotes, and
I you know, I've read them, and I mean, there's
no way that you could tell that the money came
from Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. You know, this is
a fraud upon the court, which, by the way, is

(01:26:48):
a crime if lawyers are the FBI or the Department
of Justice do that. It's also called abuse of power,
which which is a federal statue that makes it a
felony to do what they did. Well, there's there are
so many felonies if it was a normal person and
not at this senior executive service which I keep talking about,

(01:27:09):
or people connected to this SCS program, which I think
is a whole book and of itself. Let me ask
you this's real quick. You know that you hosted just
the other day. The show is going by so fast.
We got about three minutes left. I want to ask you, Um,
there's two headlines that are coming out and I want
to get your opinion on these things. And then if
you don't mind, I'd like to have you back on
Friday show, uh, to cover just a little bit more

(01:27:29):
of this but um, how do you do it? All? Right? Great? Okay?
So the two headlines are the House Committee subpoenas, FBA
agent struck to testify in public. I think Page may
have been uh subpoena as well. I want to get
your opinion on that. And and also Devin Nunius Warren's
Obama officials willingly testify on Russia investigation or face subpoenas.

(01:27:50):
The question I guess halfway is how powerful these subpoenas?
And Greg, we've been seeing this again and again, what
good does any of these things do? Does Congress have
any power left? No? Functionally they don't because for too
long they never enforced subpoenas. So the Department of Justice
and the FBI got out of the habit of just

(01:28:11):
ignoring them or defying them with impunity. Yes, you can
hold somebody like Rob Rosenstein in contempt. There's a resolution
to do that if he doesn't turn over documents by
July six. But you know, contempt is nothing. You know
what asked Eric Holder. He was held in contempt, it

(01:28:31):
had no effect on his career. You would have to
impeach him, but that that requires two thirds of the U. S.
Senate you'll never get that with Democrats opposing it. That
what ought to happen for people like Rod Rosenstein, for example,
who continues to defy lawful subpoenas, is the President should
send him a letter and say you are hereby directed

(01:28:52):
to comply fully with all lawful subpoenas issued for the
House Intelligence Committee. Failure to do so as grounds for termination.
And if Rosenstein misses the deadline on July six, you
got to be fired by the President who is in
charge of the Department of Justice and the FBI. And
he can do that, and absolutely he can do that,

(01:29:15):
and he should do that, and he cannot be accused
of obstruction of justice because what he is doing is
upholding justice and the rule of law. Congress has the
authority of oversight. It's in the constitution. They issue lawful
subpoenas and they cannot and should not be ignored. So
let's have you back on UM on Friday when I'm

(01:29:38):
hosting again, and let's talk a little bit more if
you don't mind about your book, the Russian hoax, the
illicit scheme to clear Hillary Clinton, because I want to
I want to see that right now. The headline about
the m r n all on uh situation and he's
only gonna be charged with evidently bank fraud. UM. I
want to see how that turns out over the next
couple of days, and then we'll come back and have

(01:29:59):
you on Friday. That okay, we'll do it, Jonathan, Thanks
for having me on. You got it. Greg Jarrett, Fox
News analysts and host of the book The Russian Hoax
Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton. This Jonathan Gillham filling
in for Shawn Handy. Find me on Twitter j Gilliam
Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. We'll
be right back. This is Jonathan Gillham back in for

(01:30:22):
Shawn Hannity on Shawn Hannity Radio Show. I'm gonna see
you all again on Friday, and I just wanted to
leave you real quick. See if I can get even
get through this whole thing. A poem that I wrote
a while back, let me just give it a shot. Here.
We're gonna close out. Don't forget the Brandon Church Memorial
Scholarship Fund. You can find that on my Twitter, Jay Gilliam,
Underscore Seal and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. Go

(01:30:43):
donate to that and go pick up Jeff Hides album.
Uh It's Norman Rockwell World. You can get that at
Jeff high music dot com and on iTunes. So I
just want to read part of this because I don't
think i'll get through it, but I want you to
think about something as I read this, and I wrote
the US about the United States, And there there's a
great mountain upon which many minds, young and old have

(01:31:06):
gazed upon. God himself shines his grace upon this mountain,
lights so pure and loving that it draws forth greatness
and inspires true seekers to sacrifice for the greater goods,
so that all may partake in its glorious victory. Leaders
of men, inspired individuals, and freedom seekers have sought the
path to the top of this great mountain, hoping to

(01:31:28):
find freedom, unity, and equal rights under God. Anyone that
has fought the good fight and striven to achieve the
greater good has looked up and eventually realized that reaching
the top of that great mountain is not unachievable, but
it is a quest that can only be achieved through
participation of the entire citizenry. This is the truth about

(01:31:52):
that mountain. All must drive as though the climb depends
on their efforts alone. Well, At the same time, everyone
involved must understand that no single human is capable of
sustaining a solo climb, nor are they worthy of standing
at the pinnacle and claiming it as their own. But

(01:32:12):
there's another truth about this place where the light of
God shines and his glory prevails. Those that wish to
control and enslave their fellow man will also desire ownership
of this great mountain. They will lie and convince the
masses to give their lives for the climb, while constantly
feeding them a distorted perception of the purpose and meaning

(01:32:34):
of the quest to reach the top. This distorted understanding
leads straight to the servitude and dependency. Unable to think
for themselves, the masses duped into the climb through the
deception and trickery and nefarious lives, will begin to believe
that they themselves are working together for the collective equality.
That is what's happening today, folks. Yet the sad reality

(01:32:58):
is that the wolves of power have no interest in
sharing their position at the top. The wolves use the
knowledge and experience of the sheep like wrongs on the
ladder to increase their position and stature, while the sheep
blindly give over their freedom and ultimately their lives to oppression.
And that is where we're going. Yet, there is one

(01:33:20):
last truth that we must understand, and we must understand
it now. Is the truth that cannot be comprehended by
great liars of history or those in the league with them.
That truth is this, While God may have granted freedom
to each individual to be ensured through the Constitution, those
rights are completely dependent upon a united citizenry and the

(01:33:42):
great mountain of which I speak, where the sacred pinnacle exists,
upon which the light of God shines and its glory rains. Well,
that great mountain is named America, and it's citizenry or
what is actually the heart of this great mountain? I'm
john to think, Gil, and I'll see you again on Friday.
Maybe I'll read that again and give you the full speech.

(01:34:05):
I want you to go donate to the Brandon Church
Memorial Scholarship. Do it help them get a scholarship to
remember Brandon. That's Eric Church's brother, the country music singer.
Go pick up Jeff Hide c D. All the music
we're playing today, a lot of that came from his
CD and go get my book Sheep No More, The
Art of Awareness and Attack Survival. It will help you

(01:34:26):
stop being dependent, it will help you be empowered. Listen,
I believe in this country. I believe in you, and
I believe in the independence that our founding fathers gave
their lives for, that men fought for two and forty
two years ago. You are a direct lineage of those

(01:34:48):
individuals born into freedom because of them. Don't lose it
because of you. I can't thank you enough for tune in.
I'll see you again on Friday. We're gonna talk some
more about this. But remember as you celebrate tomorrow, as
you drink your beer and eat your food and have
a great time with your families, remember freedom, as we
always say, is not free. It comes with a price,

(01:35:10):
and that price has been paid by the blood and
sacrifice of other free human beings, free Americans. God bless you,
God bless you, and thank you for all that you do.
And don't forget to go to CCI dot org as well.
Help those veterans get those support dogs. I'm Jonathan Gillham.
I'll see you on Friday on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.

(01:35:31):
God bless

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