THE BIG INTERVIEW - Mariah the Scientist on Dating Young Thug, Their Phone Calls, Tory Lanez, & Next Album

THE BIG INTERVIEW - Mariah the Scientist on Dating Young Thug, Their Phone Calls, Tory Lanez, & Next Album

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome to another episode of The BigThe Big Interview Podcast. I was talking
to him and tell him I'm cominghere, and he said, y'all used
to take back and forth and youwould say happy Sunday, brother, Yeah,
man, good dude, man,And you said, you just talked
to him. So the communication withthe everything every day all day really though,

(00:20):
which I'm really grateful for because alot of people who are in jail
they don't get to do that rightso, and it's expensive too. They're
making their money off there. Honestly, I should have I probably should have
been in that business. If Iask, what spirits is he in right
now? Big Boy's neighborhood. Beautifulday in the neighborhood. Ladies and gentlemen,
if you know, you know,if you don't consider it an introduction.

(00:43):
Mariah the scientist in the neighborhood.Welcome to the neighborhood, Queen,
thanks for having it is a pleasureto see you, to see you too.
Oh you stopped that, Come on, you stop. I told her
in the hallway. I was like, man, when I said it's a
pleasure to see you, You's like, oh, it's a pleasure to see
you. Welcome and let me tellyou. I don't know what I like
the project that they sent to me. Is that the new album? And

(01:08):
is it only ten songs? Idon't know what they sent you really to
be eating a live Oh okay,okay, you know I can. Hey,
let me tell you, and notjust because I'm in your presence right
now. That entire project is amazing. And I'm talking about like really amazing

(01:33):
from beginning to end. And Iwas just telling Annie as well. I
was like, dude, I waslike, she has no feelers. And
when you when you go to doa project like that, of course,
it's got to be it's got tobe like therapeutic for you, or it's
got to be where you're kind ofliving in it as well. Correct for
sure, Really every song is likethat, for sure. Heaven for me?
Were you always into music and itwas music like and I do ask

(01:57):
like, was music in the household? Like how did you grow up?
It wasn't a household. But Iwasn't really doing music as a child,
right you know. I mean Iwas in like a chorus in elementary school,
but I didn't regard it as like, oh I'm gonna because you always
say career I still don't. Istill don't like consider myself a singer.
You know, I just feel likeI make music, you know what I

(02:21):
mean. It's not like I plannedto do this since I was young.
So it's like other musicians and othersingers, I feel like they like literally
worked for that, yeah, sincethey were babies, or like they wanted
to be you know, top tiersinging acts. I just but you always
enjoyed music, definitely, really though, And you grew up with music,

(02:42):
so you was always with music asoundtrack for you as well. Like my
dad was more like the music playingparent, so I feel like he played
it, you know, like heplayed old school stuff, Michael Jackson,
things like that. All right,So when you lived as a spectator,
did you start writing like poems ordo you start it there first? It
was like that. It was likethat in college. I was writing poems

(03:04):
and then I went and recorded oneas a gift. I did it as
a gift, but it was notit wasn't received the way I thought it
would be. But my friend,I know, right, right, So
so you you record a song asa gift and you had never recorded like
something like that, so not onlynot only never recording. You presented it
as a gift. I presented itas on an iPod. Yes to a

(03:28):
guy, and you give an iPodtoo, I gave him, mind you.
This was back in the day.I don't have no money in college.
I don'e went all the way.This is when uber was a brand
new thing. So one Uber fromSaint John's University in Queens to Manhattan was
one hundred dollars. Jesus Christ,I spent me one hundred dollars that I
didn't have. Probably probably got aniPod, you know, the little tiny
Yeah, put it on there,and you put it and he never listened

(03:49):
to it? Was it one song? That's what I did too, really
though, where's he at now?Yeah? Black basketartd I don't know,
yeah exactly, yeah exactly, ButI don't know what are you doing?
How do you know he didn't listento it? Because I know we did
it. Oh okay, because ifhe listened, you would have been like,
well. So my friends were like, I kind of didn't want to
give it to him because he mademusic, you know, so I didn't
want him to feel like I wasstepping on his toes. And they were

(04:11):
like, no, it's good,it's nice, it's you know, it's
a sweet gestures intimate. Give itto him. I gave it to him.
He didn't listen, but they werelike, I feel like you should
put it out, and you didso. I made a couple more songs
and I put it out and Itold him though, I was like,
I'm probably gonna wind up taking itserious. He was not going for that,

(04:32):
right, But he was the musicianhe was. He's the one that
wanted to Yeah. Yeah, ohman, yeah you and you know sometimes
you got to kill people with successtoo. Yeah, that's what he gets.
Yeah, what if he would havelistened to it and did all your
material over, She's probably a blessingthat he didn't listen to it. I
mean he was kind of like ahe was like a hat, you know

(04:55):
what I'm saying soft terms. Shewas like big. I don't know how
else to say it, but it'snot on the way to say he was
a hater. And I feel likeeither way he would have just hated on
it. He literally told me,I don't want to listen to it because
I don't want to Jone you Jon, you know, yeah, yeah,
so yeah, that's what he toldme, yes, hey man, Hey,

(05:18):
but you know what, though it'sI've been that he didn't listen to
it. That's a blessing in disguise. Then you come back and you add
to it, and then you havesuccess off of it. Yes, you
know what I'm saying. So,and he's probably somewhere listening else he run
around with. I know he listenedto anyway, and you know it to
be bad about it, even withthe newest project, because like I told

(05:41):
you, the newest one is likeunbelievable like that. Let me tell you
though, you know when you havesomething and you can't wait for everybody else
to hear it. And I'm reallynot just saying this. Even when I
was playing it coming in right,Jose hit me up and he was like
later on, I'm talking about hourslater and this is on my my life.
He said, what were you listeningto? And I told him what
I was listening to, So itwas just it just grabbed him as I

(06:04):
was listening to. You know what, it's gonna be good about this,
dude, iPod man with iPod Man. What's good about that is his whatever
girls he's messing with are going tolove. He probably has already experienced that.
He's telling me that he has experiencedthat for sure. Yeah, I
heard that. I mean I lovethat for me. Yeah, well,

(06:26):
let's move off of him. Youknow what I'm saying. It's obvious,
man, you ever got them beatup? You didn't get hi junk or
nothing like that. I've considered somethingbeat him up with success, consider choosing
violence. But so you went toSaint John's University. Yes, and that's
where the name come from, Mariahthe scientist. You you want to take
reship there for biology? Really outin the third year? Oh damn,

(06:47):
you were almost I was almost there, and I would I would like to
finish. Were you always studious likethat? I think I always just liked
science generally, and I was goodin school and all that good stuff.
Yeah. I took Earth science intenth grade. Yeah I did that with
miss Raffle. I remember Miss Raffle. Yeah? Do you know? No,

(07:08):
you wouldn't know Miss Raffle. She'swaiting before you. So you always
you fell in love with science.I did, and you and you thought
in life you were guarant towards beingI wanted to be an anesthesia. I
wanted to be a pediatric anesthesiologist.A matter of fact, shout out to
this one lady. Her name ismiss Mogil. That was my eighth grade
science teacher. And she was like, you're really good at this, you
should do this. I was like, okay, and so you took that.

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And you know what's crazy. It'scrazy how you meet someone and they'll
put something in you, like they'llwater a seed and that just kind of
grow. And what was her name, miss Mogil. I wonder if she
even knows it that you or youI dropped out. Well, looking at
the camera and tell her how youdropped out. She gave you all,
Yeah, I did drop out.You are a successful entertainer. Jesus,

(07:51):
and I'm gonna go back. I'mgonna go back, So you're gonna go
back and get it. I wanta double major in biology and engineering this
time because I feel like I'm reallygood with my hands, hand hand mind
coordinator. Who do you tell thatyou're leaving Saint John's University? You have
to tell your parents. I toldmy mom. I was like, I'm

(08:11):
probably not going to go back.I didn't tell my dad because he's a
more strict parent and I just knewhe wasn't going for that. So I
just so when you go, soit's for one you always you got to
have great grades or good grades toget there. Then you get there and
that's like a dream. And Iwas like a recluse. I feel like
college is really like a social experiment. In my opinion, it's it's more

(08:33):
like a social you know, right, right right? So you didn't do
the whole college thing. I wasn't. I wasn't really like out and about
and like you know, I wasn't. I don't think I was making the
most of it from a social standpoint. But I was going to class.
And then when I started making music, I was like, I'm not going
to go back to class, damn. So do you tell your mom you
leaving to do music? Told herwhy stopped going to class? First?

(08:54):
That was like the first set,and I didn't tell anybody about that.
I was just like in the dorm. And then we had the Eastern break
and I just didn't go back,And she was like at first, she
was like you going back? Iain't going back? Did you Did you
tell her you weren't going back earlierthat? She was like, baby,
didn't school start back already? Ijust told her like I'm not going back,
Like I ain't going back to yourdad. You know no, I

(09:18):
don't even think that he even knewuntil I don't even know out. I
don't know if you put a gunto my hand saying Tim, I'm going
to go daddy found out, Iwould be like, yeah, I definite
wouldn't put a gun to your head. That's like some crazy, but you
know what I mean, Like Iwouldn't be able to tell you when I
actually verbally told him like, hey, I dropped out of school. As

(09:41):
a parent, you want do youwant to believe in your kid's dream,
but you also want to make surethat they're you know, there's the safety
nests that you put up. Itwas reluctant in the beginning. He was
like you could always do this,Why are you doing this? I was
just like universe that university has beenthere since god knows when, and it's

(10:03):
gonna be there. So it's like, you know, did it get Did
any of them give you a timelimit on success? Like you could try
this for a year. I justfeel like I was grown then, so
it's like you could probably probably tellyour kids, like, hey, you
should do this or don't do that. But my mom was kind of like
already made up. I like,I tend to fixate on things, so
it's like if I wind up sayingI want to do something, it's like

(10:26):
I'm just gonna do it. Wasit scary when you leave school and say,
okay, well this is it?Now this you know in a sentence,
this has to work. I wasn'tscared. I was just like feeling
it out. You know. Ididn't know how to go about it yet.
But I don't think I was scared. I was just I was winging
it for sure. But I meanI signed a deal like within a year
of dropping out, damn, areally nice thing. I own my master's.

(10:48):
I made a million dollars off aheartbreak. Really it was a good
time. Yeah, I guess thatdid kind of work out for you.
Yeah yeah, first million. Yeah, she said, first million. You
know what I'm saying. Yeah,I went to West La City College.
I dropped out of that. Youknow what I'm saying. It happens a
lot. I do feel like it'sa social thing, you know what I'm
saying, And it's not for everybody. You have to be committed. It's

(11:11):
like it's hard to ask somebody that'seighteen to know what you want to do
with your life and then require themto commit to it. I feel like
it can be. I think Ionly went to West La City College.
I think I only went there becauseyou know when people when you graduate,
people say, man, what're youup to now? I think that's why
I went. Yes, so likeI said, oh man, thats like

(11:31):
that a lot. And I feellike a lot of people really don't know
what they're doing. They just spendingthe money. You know, when you
come back home and people see you, what do you? What do your
peers say? And it's your sisterover here, right, sister? What
was your sister good with you?Leaving Saint John? I think I didn't
really like, I didn't tell anybody, Okay, this is your thing.
I'm kind of like, not reallythe type that will seek validation. I

(11:52):
just kind of like, do it. I love that I kind of don't
really too much care what they think. I mean, obviously I love and
care about them. But if youask her, she'll be like, babes
DONI I don't know if I can, but you've been curse already. I'm
sorry. She probably would say like, I'll just do what I want and
as you should. And so whenwhen when you say you go ahead and

(12:16):
things start to happen and and notfast, but a year is like okay,
you can see the year, butyeah, definitely, but you see
something that's going down. When isthe relationship as far as music wise,
when does that happen with Tory Lanez? Are you okay? So before I
dropped out, the first person wascalling like, let's do music or let's
let's work together with Chubby baby hesigned future back in the day. How

(12:39):
did they find you? How didthey find I? Do you know how
he found me? But you know, I think it was I think that
I think that when I put somemusic out on SoundCloud, it was like
some people they were listening to it. But I don't think the people at
my school had made the connection becauseI was a little bit of a recluse.
And then I guess it just likewas But I put it on Instagram,

(13:01):
and I think the majority of peoplewho follow me on Instagram were people
from Atlanta, and then there werethe college kids in New York were like
circulating it for me in another market. And then I don't know, I
guess he just maybe he saw iton Instagram or something that he was calling
like we need to do this andthat, and I was just like,
hold on, how do you trustthat though you don't yet, so Torri.

(13:22):
See when I met Tory, Toriwas like, I don't want anything
from this. I'm just a mentor, you know, I'm just I just
want to see that. I wantedto, Okay, I wanted to.
My parents were like, we don'tknow this, we don't know anything about
him. It's like not going downthere and work with him. And it
was like I kind of just wentout only m I went down there.
He taught me how to record downthere Miami, that's where he lived.

(13:43):
He taught me how to record onpro tools, which was like a skill
that I definitely appreciate. And thenwe just formed like a really it was
like a familial bond. It waslike he was like at a certain point,
I feel like Bud couldn't make usany bigger. So you know,
I did believe in him as heallegedly believed in me. Sorry, and
he's talented though he's very he's verytalented. You know, you can't get

(14:07):
whatever whatever the words are now andyou can't take his talent away from him.
Believe that. So you take thatand you you looked over at your
sisters. I don't know, Idon't know what when I was like,
and then she shout over to hersister girl, she was like trying to

(14:30):
Okay, so let's fast forward fromthere because I don't know, I don't
know what what what the vibe is. I probably I probably missed something.
You know what I'm saying. Okay, all right, but I no longer
do business with him. There itis all right here. She made sure
that, you know. So yousay, no more business with with Torri.
You know what I'm saying, rightfully, so and you move on,
you know what I'm saying. Andthose are kind of like the stepping stones

(14:52):
when it comes to to business andpaying that tuition into the school of experience.
Yes, so with with with witheach each progress process, in each
learning step, you do continue togrow. You know now that you're seeing
like even even more success. Howdo you handle that though? Because now
with this device, everybody's a critic, everybody has an opinion. Everybody think

(15:15):
they can get next to you,you know, and not only are you
in you know the limelighter in someone'sdevice because of your music, but it's
also relationships. People think they canget it to the personality. How do
you deal with that? I thinkthe beginning, the beginning of my career
was the hardest because I was anexperience in in what I was doing for

(15:37):
a living, Like I haven't donemusic forever, so it's like I'm just
now doing that. I'm just now, Like the Internet roasted me the worst
way for like my first performances,like my first couple performance performances roasted me,
ended me, finished me on theinternet. Really why I grew from
that because I wasn't good at it. I don't know what I was doing.
I see my comment told like,oh my lord, what's going on
with you know? And I justI didn't know how to work the inner

(16:02):
ear situation. I don't know whatI was doing. I didn't know how
I sounded outside of like I justnever had sung for any people. It's
like now people, I think peopledidn't realize that. It was like my
first big shows were like my firstshows, like Rolling Out was my second
ever performance in front of people.You know what I mean? Damn it

(16:22):
was crazy. Hey, So whenyou go from that. Not when you
go from that, but when yousee that, it's like you're kind of
learning in front of everybody. Yes, but I mean also I seen some
tweets to say bullying works. Theybullied me a little bit, but it
was like they didn't really have tobully me because I wanted to evolve obviously.

(16:44):
But I feel like the the theinitial pressures of like people knowing that
I was inexperienced made me like alittle bit insecure about it, you know,
but the insecurity made me want to, like, I like to be
on point, you know, right, so your own standards exactly. I
don't want nobody to say about me. So it's like I just go work
on that and then y'all see mewhen it's when I'm you know, who
I thought had it bad early,man was Corey Larray. This seemed like

(17:07):
they just wanted to just tear herup, and to me do I always
loved her and you know, andand she I felt like she grew in
the process as well. And it'scrazy because yes, it's like there is
no other finishing school or there's youknow, when something popped for you,
an opportunity to come and it's likeI gotta do rolling out, I gotta

(17:29):
get out, and you're kind ofyeah, you are learning in front of
the crowd. Yeah, quite cooltoo. Though. I feel like she
definitely has had some adversity in thesocial media. But you know what it
is. I think it's today too, you know. I think it's like
what goes down today Mariah Thatt thateverybody feel like they have something to say,
they do have something to say,and it's like, you know what,
though, at a certain point,you had to realize the internet is

(17:51):
not really something that you can justbe combative with. You can, but
it's really not ever gonna work inyour favorit. They're gonna use everything against
you. You know, they gonnaassume that know you and they don't at
all. Do you use it andnot use it? Because you, I
mean, in our business, yougot to use it. It's like the
gift and the curse, you knowwhat I'm saying. Do you do you
look at comments? Now? Ido? Sometimes I don't really comments might

(18:15):
have used to Like I had aTwitter, I had Twitter. I deleted
my Twitter because I'm the type thatI might want to respond and I just
don't want to do that. It'slike even like certain little things. I
like tweet something that's like really casualand meaningless to me or just fun,
you know. But I feel likebecause I haven't really I haven't done too

(18:37):
many interviews, people don't really knowmy personality. So I feel like it
can be hard to discern what's whaton the internet. You know, it's
all just text, and then youcan't find fight everybody. And then people
say something in your on on socialmedia. They will never say in your
face, oh for sure. Solisten, I'll tell you why I'm late
today. Now, hear me outto the airport. We have a flight

(19:00):
at six o'clock in the morning.We get there, I'm running through the
airport. Atlanta is like hectic onparticular days. They've got this new setup
where you have to go all theway around. They don't let you cut
across anymore. How they usually do. I think they like change it depending
on the day of the week orhow busy it is. So I dropped
my wallet out the pocket right andI know this, so damn it's gone.

(19:22):
So I turn around and take aB line the exact way. I
can't because I'm sure it's in thesame path. So a girl gets in
front of me that works at theairport and she's like, hear me with
one of these like you can't go, you can't go. Right there.
I'm like, I just dropped mywhile and I'm sure it's literally probably steps
away. We in Atlanta. Ilost it in Atlanta and they never got
it back. So it's like Ionly have a certain window to get this

(19:44):
same bag, and my flight isat six o'clock. She's like all in
my way doing all this, soI politely go around her. She's followed
me all the way out, likerunning after me with her phone out like
this in my face, running literallywhen I say, following me everywhere.
I go all the way to theparking lot looking for my wallet in the

(20:06):
car and everything. She comes allthe way out. So I go back
in and the one of the Deltaagents had it. Oh here's your wallet.
I'm like, oh my god,thank you so much. She's like,
I said, can you walk meback over there to my place in
line. He's like, yeah,yeah, I can walk you over there.
She's like she put her hands onme. I'm calling the police.
Oh lord, she got her handsshe got her phone in my face,
she's privileged. She thinks she privileged. I'm like, did she know you?

(20:30):
I don't know. If I startedthinking maybe that is my first running
with the kind of fans who theyjust waiting, waiting like you to do
something. And I want to say, if we wasn't if me, if
I didn't have an obligation and Ididn't want to be on the no fly
list, I was slept out ofyou. And yeah, how did she

(20:52):
get in front of you again?Well with all that, like, I
did not like that. Yeah,trying to make me miss my fight.
We didn't have to push. Shecalls it's yeah, she called the police,
and the police came and said,I am not filing chartists for this.
This is this is asinine. Pleaseenjoy your flight. Hey man,

(21:12):
she knew exactly who she knew whatshe was doing. And I'm telling you,
man, it's going you know.I mean that's what that's what the
culture is right now. Let meget a million dollar so I can just
have me a little p J budget. Yeah, oh yeah, let me
get that from Yeah for me,when you did like this, I thought

(21:33):
you were just talking to the universe. Yeah, yeah, you know,
I was like, no, definitelycan't. You don't fly uh private at
all, I mean here and there. But it's not like it's unrealistic to
be like I'm gonna take a jetevery day. You know, people their
own one look him. Until then, you know, you have girls getting

(21:56):
in front of you going like this. That was crazy at Delta, and
I think, and not that it'sgonna get better. Things are gonna get
a lot better for you on thejourney, but some of that stuff is
gonna get worse, right, Yeah, man, are you ready for all
that? It's I'll be outside likethat, you know. So I feel
like I don't really experience I literallyhad just said it to her, Like
I feel like, you know howall those viral videos on the Internet of

(22:18):
people acting crazy on the planes.I feel like we don't, I mean,
by the grace of God, wedon't really experience those things. And
it's like as soon as I saythat, it was like started happening.
It's just like maybe I should havejust kept that. Yeah, yeah,
and she definitely when you when youpull your phone out first, you're definitely
looking for the moment and it's likemy thing is and this is just I

(22:42):
feel like a lot of people shouldknow this. Black people, people from
particular places in the world. Youdon't follow nobody out to no parking dick.
You don't follow nobody out to nocar. You don't know what I
wouldn't want it to do if youwere in Atlanta and surrounding areas too.
They're just some areas out here toothat you just know, like, I
ain't following that in that stuff.Don't be getting people up like you can't

(23:04):
just be like thinking that. It'sjust everything is just I don't know what
people be thinking. It's like youlook up for something so specific and it's
like one day, maybe not forme, somebody gonna give you what you
want and you're gonna wish that itdidn't go like that. So I would
just say, you know, justyeah, keep saying more, a little
more, receipt exactly, respect ofpeople, respect yourself, Keep looking at

(23:26):
me. We'll find it the newestproject for you right now? Alrighty,
what is the title? To beEating a Live or is that a working
time? No, that's the title? Why that title? So I want
to put it out on my birthday, which is Octumber twenty seven, Okay,
so it's coming soon. I ain'teven tell nobody that. Look,
okay, what's out there now?Anyway? So I'm a scorpio and scorpio

(23:48):
some of them, not all ofthem. They're poisonous or venomous, you
know. So I feel like themetaphor that I came up with is like,
if you were to make the attemptat eating me alive, I sorry,
it would kill you. And youmight not think that because scorpions and
scorpios, like, we are solitarycreatures. We are like more reserved,

(24:10):
we are more like you know,you don't really know did you know you
were going in for? Like,if the project from what I'm hearing,
if it is ten songs, howmany do you record before you say these
are those ten? So I wastalking to somebody the other day. It
wasn't the same exact question, butit was like, so, my other

(24:30):
projects have also been ten songs.It's not that the ten song thing is
intentional. It is because I feellike it's concise and I feel like it's
to the point there are no feelingsongs. Which I appreciate that you said
that because that makes me feel good, and that's that's honest to you for
real. Thank you and I feellike the ten song thing, I just

(24:51):
feel, you know, I seeother people putting out longer projects and this
and that and blah blah blah,but it's just like, I feel like
it's to the point. And whatdid you ask ask me originally before I
get off top, because I'm goodwith that. So how many songs did
you record before you? Okay,yes, okay, exactly, Yeah,
I gotta have them. The firstproject, it was like the song the
project was ten songs, but Ihad probably only recorded like, I don't

(25:15):
know, thirteen or fourteen songs inmy life at that point, so it's
like it was a minimal pool,you know what I'm saying. And then
you move on to the second oneand you've recorded some more. So maybe
by the second project, I mighthave recorded like thirty songstcha so and then
you get around to this one.This one was a little different because I
was just like working more like Iwanted to be in the studio. I

(25:37):
wanted to I don't know, wehad this project together like a year ago.
I wanted to put it out ayear ago, and then I like
scrapped a lot of it and thenI just rearranged it and then made new
stuff and it was like, Iwas really reluctant. Sometimes I can get
really like I said, I canfixate on things, right. So it's
like if I want certain things onthe project or I don't, or if

(26:00):
I have made a song and Ifeel like that's a catalyst for another project,
I will exclude it. I'll belike, I'm not using it.
I'll just like shut it out.And then I kind of I evolved on
that, on that concept, andI included some things that I tried to
focus for other things, you know, and it was like more about instead

(26:21):
of it just being a hobby andI'm just picking from what I think it
should be, let me just actuallydo what it should be, you know,
let me not Like does that feeldifferent going into this different? Yeah?
It felt different. It felt morelike it felt more curated when you
when you live and I'm pretty sureyours your music. And it's crazy because

(26:42):
once again back to Jose and whenI hear you speaking on it, he
was like, man, you soundextremely seasoned though when you say the first
one I recorded thirteen, I putten, I recorded, like you sound
like you just really like grew up. And it's like because because you can
hear. You can hear the everythingwhen you when you went on the album.

(27:06):
You can hear the vulnerable, howvulnerable you are. You can hear
the strength like you can hear everythingyour voice the mixed like even when when
you start off and what I got, I don't know how a sequence,
but when soon as I heard Heavenand guess what I produced that, Oh
my god, in the quarantine Ijust got, I was just bored and

(27:29):
I was like, I need thisequipment. I'm trying to make some stuff
and I produce it. Hey man, And that right there is not overdone
musically like your voices and instrument onthere. It's very melodic, the just
the the entire sound of it.And that is a hell of a introduction
into the album. You yeah,man, you did that. No,

(27:52):
and people that are listening, theonly thing that that that that that killed
me on it was you know hownow they have like where you could just
go with the lyrics and you couldn'tfigure it out. No, I was
so I had to listen deeper andthen whatever they sent me you can't rewind,
man. But that's even better becauseit takes you through an entire project

(28:15):
too. You got to listen tothe whole thing. And I listened to
the whole thing of Future. Iwas about to say, you know and
got that traffic. You probably didn'tget the chance. Yeah, I listened.
I listened to it a few times, and like I say, the
selection of having ten songs also makesit a lot easier. Yeah, Like
with my brother Chris. Chris releasedhis album. One of the albums had
forty five and I just looked atthat picture and when I was thinking about

(28:36):
how you said that's his song thing. But see, he's different. I'm
gonna give him that because he genuinelymakes good music. It's like all of
them other people, you know,they might throw a fill of songs and
there his songs are always can giveyou an album of twenty five songs and
twenty seven of them will be bangedexactly. Yeah, you know what I'm
saying. How was that relationship withChris as well? I've only made him
a couple of times, I wantto say, maybe like maybe two or

(29:00):
three in person. I maybe likeToy even had gris Like you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,he hit me like or his team hit
my team and said they had asong, and I was like, I
would love to do that because Iput him to for two years and his
music is hard. Yeah, andso they had already already written the hook.

(29:22):
I had never really taken any songs, you know, I have always
written every word. And then itwas like when I listened to it at
first, I was a little like, damn, Like it's kind of like
it's kind of like provocative, right, you know. But I feel like
in my verse, I got theopportunity to express myself from my perspective,

(29:44):
and I feel like it made ita very well rounded song. So do
you do you write everything? Now? Everything? It is one person?
Well besides that hook on t Risley'ssong, there's one person in the world.
One of my favorite favorite favorite rappers, hepproached me with a song and
said, I really want you tosing this, And it was just like
I couldn't say no, you knowwho did it? I don't know if

(30:07):
I should tell you, Oh,you can't say it. I don't know.
I mean I could, I couldtell you, did you catch you?
Okay? Oh he's on our project? Oh definitely, yeah, he's
on. Even when I got theproject, they didn't listen to features,
so you had to like listen.Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Like, oh that that that's youknow. I love his music? Yeah,

(30:30):
man? And and he's another onethat and people don't know about the
time it come out, you knowwhat I'm saying. People know that it's
twenty one by the time coming.But no, I really love music for
real, like top tier rapper,Hey man, do do you listen to
music different now that you're in itand you have peers in it? Can

(30:52):
you hear like how hard it ison certain songs to make a song like
that? I think? Do Ifeel like it makes you evaluate music a
little differently? I don't know.I think it actually makes you you start
to like make a comparison from theirmusic to their personality, you know what
I'm saying. And it's like he'slike a funny person and stuff. And

(31:12):
I feel like, actually some ofhis music is like that, like if
you really listen to it, likehe has pretty like sarcastic or like partially
cynical like lyrics. I feel likehe's funny. Go ahead, now you
over here killing people with these wordstoo, using s a T words like

(31:33):
that, which I love it too. There's a couple on the you dropped.
I just went like this, Yeah, but I do feel like it
makes you It makes you like lookat the person and then like look at
the art. You know, itmakes you make a connection there. But
I feel like one thing that Iwill say, like since making music and
doing particular things like production wise,I feel like like music videos and movies,

(31:59):
once you see how music video worksand like that kind of stuff works,
it's like it really kills the entirewatching the experience of anything, you
know what I mean. It's likenow I'm watching it, it's like in
one scene she I mean one take, her hair was behind her hair,
her ear and then when they putit back it was in the front.
There's this one You've got that badtoo? And ray J has a hat

(32:22):
on. I know you've seen thismeans yeah, and it keeps going down.
Yeah, man, you gotta watchlike, man, look at this
beanie right here. But let metell you what's bad about that? You
got the curse too, because nowyou got that creative curse. And I
put that on my wife too.Like I watch something and I look for
continuity, like I was just watchingand watch like I watched the most I
watch. It's like documentaries. SoI don't watch anything scripted except like the

(32:44):
shot, and I love the shot. And it was one part when they
were moving out and dude put likethis water bottle on top of his box,
and then the next camera angle thewater bottles turned the other way and
I'm like, yeah, I watchit. I watched it too tough maybe
doing it? Yeah, that's yourwhat's your fault? You know what I'm
saying. It's your fault. Now. Now I'm gonna start looking at your
work, like look at her.See I I'll be trying to direct my

(33:05):
stuff. I'll be trying to likebe really into it and hands on with
it and stuff. I feel likea lot of times that stuff happens when
it's multiple people touching it, youknow what I mean, it's multiple inputs
and moving parts. Do you enjoybeing being an artists? Yeah? I
do, I really do. Imean it can be hectic, Yeah,

(33:28):
I know. It's a lot ofwork. Especially I like to micromanage.
I'm like pretty controlling with my art. I feel like you have to be
like that though, because it windsup not being yours. You know,
you could tell you care. Yeah, I definitely care. It's like,
but the crazy right is I don'tcare about like what people think about it.
I think about what I think aboutit, and I just feel like
I ain't gonna putting on half.And that's why I got better with the

(33:50):
performances because I feel like it wasjust like I was halfway doing it,
you know what I mean. Doyou ever feel like you're getting your own
way? I definitely do, likereal bad to ask anybody, right,
And also with the music too,do you know when it let the music
go, like when to release?Yeah, I feel like when I feel
like it's a well rounded project.But then again, I feel like I

(34:15):
scraped. I'll restart that a lot. I might have one track list with
one with a certain amount of songs, a certain set of songs, and
I get rid of half of that, you know. And that's why I
say it can be like not thatyou will be indecisive, but it's it
just it becomes a curated thing.You have to really, you really have
to. I feel like that's thedifference between like real artists and the plants

(34:39):
whatever they call it to be eatingalive. Is that gonna come out?
Yes, it's I wouldn't bet rightnow, I'm just talking about like you
know, you say you scrap projects. I don't know if like in two
days. No, I'm very confidentabout this project for sure. I feel
very I feel like it's my bestwork. I love that. Do you

(35:00):
listen to it? Yes? Doyou have favorites on your own? My
favorites always change. They always changebecause it's just like I feel like it's
a lot of versatility on a project, a lot of different perspective. So
I feel like if I'm feeling oneway, I might listen to it a
lot. Right now, I'm listeningto a number and which was give me
a title because they didn't number whatI have. It's called different pages.

(35:21):
Hey man, let me tell youmine is is also right? That's that's
stug on their correct because nothing hasup information. Yes, yes, yeah,
I love that. So that one'sfire. Okay, So we'll do
this on ride. You have afeature on there as well. It's okay.
You can sell him all right,But I know when when he says
she keep my meat tall, likedude, I never say that. I
mean, do you know what I'msaying like that? Because I missed,

(35:45):
but I missed with my wife allthe time, and I was like,
dude, I never told her shekeeps my meat. Yeah. Yeah,
at least I get enough to tellher before the album. D But let
me tell you, man, thatthat's another project. I could not wait
until my wife gets it, becauseI'm telling you I will. And I'm
talking about like that the project,Like when she hears it, she gonna

(36:07):
love it. She gonna love itbecause I can tell that the way that
it's tapped in, She's gonna definitelylove your project. And you did.
And I'm telling you, Mariah,you did that. You did that right.
Did you have any other like namesbefore Mariah the Scientist? Just Mariah?
Just Mariah. You didn't have likeany get rid of it. But

(36:30):
when I had first time to deal, they were like, I just feel
like it's so marketable you should justleave it. It's just like so marketable
Mariah the Scientist. Yes, you'regonna walk away from it. Maybe not.
I mean, it's already there,you know. I feel like when
people change their names, it's likeyou already, it's already he did.
He is like he has so manymonikers. I love yea brother love that's

(36:54):
what you mean, it's like noone's ever gonna stop calling you puffy and
like it depends, it depends onwhen you got to know him, like
gen Z, that's that's that's love. What about if you were like a
magician, like with magic, youwould have been Mariah the Magician. I

(37:14):
don't know, I probably would havehad like a different name. Okay,
when you cook, you mariotis chefmm hmm. When I'm cooking, I'm
just like, can you cook?I love to cook. How you look
like that and cook? I don'tbe looking like this my head? Yeah?
But still I mean hot still kitchen. Yeah, but still you could

(37:34):
tell that you know what I'm saying, Like I do like to cook though,
Really though, if we came atdinner tonight, what you make my
favorite? No? I mean ifI lived in la I sure would invite
you over. If I were tocook my favorite things, I would cook
some fried fish. I have aproblem with that. I like to cook
that the most. Plus it's kindof quick. It's like it tastes so
good, it's so bad for me. Probably fried fish. Maybe macaroni and

(37:59):
Cheese's gonna take too long, right, but make it anyway, macaroni cheese
takes so long to me, liketo me, he had a good stuff.
He had a good stuff too.It's like and pro tip here if
you gonna make macaronie, she's makingin the cast iron scale it when you
put it in the oven. Ohreally though, Oh, I don't make
mine just that flavoring. I don'tmake mine like that. He ain't now

(38:22):
for thirty years. And she comesin here since you know I'm gonna try
it now though, Yeah, yeahme good, Yeah, I don't.
I don't run from the love.I run to it. Alrighty. How
do you and thugs? How doy'all meet? Okay? And give you
a timeline? Okay, because Ithink a lot of people are confused,
and I feel like, let melet me tell you twenty twenty one.

(38:43):
I met him in March of twentytwenty one. Wow, that's when we
met for the first time face toface. The first time we met,
he was like, I want you, and I was like me right,
and he just he has like astoic presence, which I really like about
him. And I like to thinkthat about myself, but he definitely has
like he's very stoic. And Ithought he had. I feel like,

(39:07):
like everybody, we were familiar withhim being in a long term relationship.
So I kind of like avoided itbecause I didn't want to be that girl,
you know what I mean. So, but this is why I always
tell my friends check his credentials.When he's saying he got something going on
or don't got something on, check'scredentials. Let him time will tell.
So I waited it out a coupleof months. Okay, I waited out

(39:29):
for six months, and then wegot a relationship and down that's more than
a couple of months. Six months. I just needed to see that he
was like I was like a littlemore impulsive when I was younger, and
I didn't want to be like becauseI kind of did. I really did
like him, and I didn't wantto Like. Right, when you when
you do meet like thug and y'allface to face, right, you already

(39:49):
know there's these you know, there'sthe images or there's something that you know
could until you meet the person.Right, Were you concerned about what you
thought you knew of this guy?No, I feel like I didn't know
him, so you know, youcan't really like I couldn't draw any conclusions
about him or his character because Ididn't know him. When I met him,
I thought he was really tall.He was way tall. How crazy
is yeah? Hey, man,I remember the first time I met him,

(40:15):
or the first time he walked inhere. I looked at his shoes.
Oh and he keep because I wasthinking that he was wearing like some
of them big elevated shoes. Yeah. Man. And I remember people was
like, oh, man, hedon't do good interviews. He's not there.
He he does it tall. She'sreally social. He's a social butterfly.
Have you ever seen the interview thatwe did together. I might have

(40:37):
seen some snippets. Man, ifyou get it, get a chance watching
it in this entirety that man,I had so many people that life.
I had a great time with him, and then we would pop up,
you know then and then it justcame, you know, phone numbers and
or zoom. I was talking tohim and tell him I'm coming here,
and he said, y'all used totake back and forth and you would say
happy Sunday, brother, Yeah man, good dude. Man. I remember

(40:59):
one time we were just facetiming andthe kids. It was a zoom interview
and it was quarantine and the kidswere behind them, and he was reprimanding
the kids on during the interview aboutthat big All right, I'm back flying.
I'm back flying. You know whatI'm saying. And you say,
you just talked to him. Sothe communication with everything every day all day

(41:21):
really though, which I'm really gratefulfor because a lot of people who are
in jail they don't get to dothat right so, and it's expensive too.
They're making their money off there.Honestly, I should have I probably
should have been in that business ifI ask what spirits is he in right
now? Just like overall, isa very jovial person. You know,

(41:42):
he's just like always like that.He don't really it's really not too much
you can do to make him,you know, like put him down.
He don't really like. He don'tgive a damn about none of that.
You know, he's positive. That'sbeautiful, man. When and you guys
talk every day, and it's obviouslyyou say, you guys talked about me,
So thank you for bringing I do. I appreciate that, you know

(42:02):
what I'm saying. And that's oneof those things, man, where you
know when people say, man,no, I'm here. So with with
Thug, It's like you are reallyhere. Yeah, And I feel like
a lot of people are like That'swhy I say the internet can get really
judgment on. They could just likeassume certain things. And it's like,
I'm actually very happy in my relationship. I only miss the piece. It's
his physical presence, you know,But I feel like he is. He's

(42:25):
everything I wanted. He's everything Ididn't know I want, you know,
and that's just a fact. Hedude, is it crazy that that you
were probably thinking that you wasn't gonnameet you know how you think you're gonna
meet this particular person and then youmeet someone and it's just just like this
spirit that you just like, man, I locked into that. Yeah,
it's a lot of people that arenot like what you But then it's like,

(42:49):
I don't want to say what youthought they would be like, but
because you didn't go in with allthat preconceived stuff. No, definitely not.
I was going. I pulled upon him because I wanted him to
get on this song. I feellike he would sound good on this song.
And I got there and it wasjust like he was just a good
vibe. He was so nice andjust like and so you went to go
do a song and ended up ina relationship six months later. Look at

(43:13):
you, though, see that that'swhat the guys do. You couldn't just
work with him as an artist?I could. I feel like Jesus,
I was thinking that he hadn't.He was like moving slow on doing it.
It was like I was piling upat the studio like often to see
if he was going to do it. And then I had told him.
I thought maybe he was doing itbecause he just wanted me to coming around.
But he said that's not what itwas. He said it was just

(43:37):
I don't know whatever his name was. I believe him. And y'all and
you say, like like you guystalk every day. Please tell him,
I say hello, I will yeah, tell him. I say, what's
happening? Man? And and youknow people when when you think about the
people really holding him high too,and you know people are praying for him,
I don't. And to tell youthe truth to Mariah, I don't

(43:57):
go into the whole caste everything.You know what I'm saying. I got
kids, I got a wife,I got a life that I have to
that I have to live, soI can't be diving into everybody else's stuff.
But dude is good. He wasgood with me, you know what
I'm saying, and good with meand and then just as an artist,
you can do with everybody, rightright, No, he not, Yes,
he is, yes, he iswhat everybody except for Fannie willis,

(44:20):
who the d is? He goodwith Louis over there, be good with
everybody. Okay, Okay, causewhen you said because you know, because
when he did come in that dayone time, he had a real problem
with Louis a little bit. He'snot a grudge holder. Okay, yeah,
you know your man, because hereally didn't have a problem with it
to have some kind of grudge.You know, he ain't like that.

(44:44):
When did y'all record ride, herecorded it before and then I got on
it. So it wasn't like wedid it at the same exact time.
You know. You were just saidthat got on it. It's not that
we did it at the same time. How you made his meat talk,
So I mean I was in awhole different, different thing. So okay,
we're talking about music. Okay.So he recorded it first, Okay,

(45:07):
yeah, recorded it first. Heactually has a like you know how
I said my catalog in the beginning, it wasn't that big to pick from.
It's still not like that large.You know, I probably have recorded,
like, I don't know, fiftysixty songs, maybe maybe more than
that, maybe like pushing seventy five. He's probably recorded like ten thousand songs.
And like, no, I'm notthat's not even exaggeration, Like he

(45:27):
has like an extensive catalog. Wherewhere's the music at? Because he's a
hit maker too. I mean Ican jump on one and and I could
do well on there exactly. Sentit to me. You got anything,
email me something. Yeah, butlet him make sure that his vocals are
in there as well. He'll dothat for you. Amen. Are you

(45:50):
ready to have also an anthem?When it comes to ladies and the power
in the queens as well? Ifeel like I got a lot of those.
I feel like I have a lotof those, you know. I
feel like which have a well roundedalbum. Like I didn't feel like we
were getting beat up? Yeah,yeah, what you what you're trying to
say? What do you mean bythat? But I'm talking about when I
listened to the album, I didn'tfeel like men were getting beat up.

(46:12):
I feel like you were telling yourstory. If you listen to the other
ones, everybody thinks that I'm likethis. They think it's some other I
feel like this time, I'm justlike lovey dovey. I just don't have
that animosity. I'm not bitter.Do you feel like like it was and
not dark? But do you feellike like it was in in the pocket
of a lot of thought as well? For sure, I feel like I'm

(46:37):
very meticulous with every detail of everything. It's been plenty of songs on there
that are like, I don't know, two years or maybe three years old.
For sure, you just knew itfit this. Yes, I feel
like there are songs I will record. I don't really like to do.
If I record a song, Idon't really like to record both verses that
day. I like to record thefirst verse and maybe a hook, and

(47:00):
I like to sit on it tosee what I come up with. That's
how I usually work. But inthe past year or so, I have
been in the studio more so it'slike making more stuff on the spot,
you know, which. I dolike that dynamic cause it's like it's kind
of like an exercise. It's likeit's like flexing a muscle and it's like

(47:20):
once you do it enough, it'slike then it's like I can go into
the studio and I can make asong with anybody on the spot. Probably
no, I mean not. Idon't say anybody at any time, but
like you know, it's just more, it's like more fluid, are you
now? And as far as thealbum in the shows twenty twenty four where
you perform more for sure. Ifeel like I've been on tour for the

(47:42):
last I've been on Twitter for likealmost three years maybe two. Do you
feel it growing? Yea, yeah, yeah. And I appreciate the I
appreciate the people who gave me opportunitiesto tour with them because they were like
bigger, like I went with theRoadway Future and at three different times and
they have different kind of audiences Andis that intimidating though, like when you

(48:06):
when you when when you're not onthe Marquee Marquee and you know, I
think with the rod Wave one,it was like they were big shows and
I was trying to figure out howto do the how to do the sound
set up. Like I said,I was getting accustomed to the inner ear
thing and at first I didn't reallylike it. But I like it now
a lot because you can like hearyourself, you know. So I think

(48:29):
if anyone that don't know the innerear, know the inner ear people,
yeah, and throw over the backof your clothes and you put it in
your ear. It's like a theymold your ear and everything with this,
like wet. It's like if youever got a grill, and it's like
they put the wet stuff in yourmouth and you write down. They do
it to your ear. It feelsreally weird, but it's like a perfect

(48:52):
mold of your ear. So whenyou put it in, it's like if
you want to have a conversation withsomebody, you have to take one out
because you can't hear it. It'slike they have have you ever seen Michael
Jackson this is it? No,Okay, you've seen this is it when
they try to give him any ears, And you know, Michael, his
whole career, he never had innerears, so he was like, it's
like someone's like putting a fist inmy ear, like a fist, you

(49:13):
know what I'm saying, Like,yeah, it is just like that.
But you know, some people don'tlike them. They have monitors on the
stage show that can project the musicback to you. It's hard to do
in like a really big, bigvenue though, Like I opened for cold
Play one time at the Merchant Iknow. That was crazy. Yeah yeah,
yeah at the Mercedes ben Stadium inAtlanta, which is crazy to me.

(49:35):
He used to be the Georgia Dome. That was really nostalgic. How
crazy is that to know that spotand then you're like, I'm on stage.
I feel like my dad. So, like I said, he was
like more the music player. Hewas a little versatile. So it's like
he would play us Michael Jackson orMaria Carry or a cold Play or like
he just had like a you know, different He had different tastes. So
and I feel like I called himlike I'm going to open for Coldplay and

(49:57):
Mercedes Being Stadium and he was like, what mind you? This is like
the strict parent that's reluctant to like, he didn't came. He having the
time of his life, like he'sso happy, you know. I always
yeah like thatogist, right, butyeah, I feel like, uh,
an arena like that. It's likeit's really hard to say you're not gonna

(50:20):
use an inter years. You know. It's like I went to see Beyonce
there recently, and it's I thinkher her pack so the thing went out
and it was interesting to see howshe pivoted and she's just like she's just
like a. That really made meappreciate her. Do you watch shows different
now too? And not in abad way, but like a just like
I said when the TV show Stuff, I was watching Beyonce show like it

(50:43):
was like so much going on,it was so detail oriented. I really
liked that about her. It waslike, obviously you've heard that about her,
but that was my first time everseeing her in a concert. My
sister has been repeatedly without me,but it's cool. I ain't gonna trip,
you know. But yes, definitelyto all those Beyonce shows I don't

(51:04):
even know, And there is oneI will never forgive because I really wanted
to see that on the Round tourwith her and jay Z. Oh yeah,
oh that was a good one.Did you go to that one that?
Because that one's right there shaking herhead just like, hell yeah,
just run one show like that back, just one that one's over like that

(51:27):
that one? Oh man, dude, if you like this Renaissance tour,
Oh that one was fired know.I watched a lot of videos from it.
Yeah, man, that one wasridiculous. Sister know that that was
the best Beyonce tours thus far,and people always say they compare them in
Renaissance was off the chain. Idon't know how you could top that one.
Did you pay to get in?I was willing to, okay,

(51:49):
but that means you didn't. Idon't think I did. Really, no,
damn. I thought everybody had topay to get in. I was
going to. I didn't know ifI was going to be able to go.
I didn't buy tickets at first.We bought tickets in another city,
and then she started telling me,my sister thinks that I'm a celebrity and
I think I'm a citizen and that'sI love it. And she's like,

(52:12):
this is you can't go to yourbiggest market and just sit in the crowd.
It's it's not going to go theway you think it's gonna go.
You're not gonna be able to enjoythe show. So we sold those tickets,
and then when I was trying toplay, we did. We got
the money back, and then wellI don't know, did we We did?
So when I wanted to see itin Atlanta. It was like it

(52:34):
was kind of already sold out,kind of it was really last minute,
and I was just calling around.They didn't have like seats that I was
willing to pay for, just asfar as like the quality. You know,
it's like the way it was made. It was like the seats that
were left were like on the sideand you wouldn't be able to see it.
So I had a couple of peoplewith me, so it's like they
it was only like you could gettwo in the front, right, and

(52:57):
it was like more than two ofus, And I don't really want to
leave it anybody behind. So nowI'm calling around, like you just accommodate
and just let me know. I'llpay. You know, I'm doing all
that. So and you got yougot in? Did you get your whole
team into There's a guy in Atlanta. Want to shot him out. His
name is Chris Thorpe. Okay,he works with the Hawks, and he
always answers the phone and he alwayshelps me out if I need it,

(53:19):
and I just appreciate that. He'slike a real guy. You know.
You just up for him, right, No, No, No, everybody
in Atlanta. No, He's theguy. Okay, well, now now
now all of us know up,remember you said that. I'm like yeah,
yeah, and then I'm gonna getthere be like big boy. I'm
not a big boy tickets. They'regonna be like, uh, we're talking
about big boy from out cast.Yeah, They're like, yeah, you

(53:44):
don't know, we ain't got notickets for you. You can look out
what. Well, I'm ready tosee. I've been here and I've seen
this before, and I cannot waitto see what your journey is going to
look like from here on. Seenthis yet oh yeah yeah. Like even
when you talk about Beyonce, Iremember when they were like, hey man,

(54:04):
it's these girls from Texas. Canyou get them on your show?
So on and so forth. Myfirst time that I had Beyonce on,
well, Destiny's Child. We bookedthem because my homeboy Sean thought they were
fine. But that was that wasthe thing, like, man, they
fine, big, bring them in. I was like, all right,
I'll bring them in. And man, we had so many great interviews from

(54:27):
then on, and I've seen thatjourney. I've seen a lot of journeys,
and I cannot wait to see whatyour journey. Just to know that
I really appreciate you taking the timeto do this. It's my pleasure.
I really appreciate that. It's mypleasure. And I'm going to take you
straight up too. When your namecame up, because I only interview people
that sit down with people that Iclear, you can't just throw somebody in
here. When your name came up, I was like, all right,

(54:49):
I was like, I don't know, but no on the real Annie doubled
down on you. She's as soonas your name came up. She before
I could even see with the neighborhoodchecking neighborhood, you had replied back,
you're like a few months ago.Damn, that's crazy, and the crazy

(55:13):
party is I don't even be lookingat d ms. So the fact that
I responded to this, it couldhave been but she would be on my
damn Instagram and she think, Idon't know, she'd be clocking my messages.
How do your sister become your manager? Because you you you talking about
how this is a newer journey foryears? Did she have other acts before

(55:34):
or just sisterly love? So Iwould say that I am not that trustworthy
of a person. I am askeptic, can be really bad sometimes and
so you know, I just feltlike at a certain point she she was
just like a clean slate, youknow, and it was like I could
tell her exactly what I know,but we could grow together because technically I'm

(55:57):
still like there are things that I'mstill learning, but there are things that
I have learned. And it's likesome managers out there, if you tell
them how you want to do somethingor how you don't want to do it,
it's like they'll give you a lotof pushback. She'd be giving me
pushback too though, right, justto be clear, she is opinionated.
But I would rather just I'd ratherbreak bread with my sister. You know.

(56:19):
I heard that I would rather breakbread with her. I heard that.
You know, my family probably watchingthis too, like what about us?
But sometimes I don't. I don'tdon't always work. You got to
know that, you know, andyou can't be afraid to tell somebody that
this ain't gonna work. You gotto be able, like if you're going
to be in a position to putsomebody in a position, you also have

(56:39):
to be willing to take them outof a position if you feel like it's
not effected. And it was crazybecause She was like, yeah, well,
you know what y'all gonna give usfor the interview. I was like,
we don't pay for interviews. Shewas like, well she said that.
Yeah. Oh man, she didn'twalk through money off kind of stuff.
You think you just going to theclub to hang out. She look

(57:00):
don't even walk out the club.She's like, oh, I love that
she's gonna get her money. Ilove that. Well, thank you for
coming into the neighbor and God willand we will see a lot more of
you, is right there, man, anything before we break out, nobody
needs a loan or nothing from her, from from y'all, Mariah the Scientist,

(57:21):
thank you for coming into the neighborhood. Pleasure. I'm back, all
right, big boys, neighborhood