THE BIG INTERVIEW - Angie Martinez Recalls Moments w/ Biggie Smalls, Tupac, Jay-Z, and More Hip-Hop Legends

THE BIG INTERVIEW - Angie Martinez Recalls Moments w/ Biggie Smalls, Tupac, Jay-Z, and More Hip-Hop Legends

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to another episode of The BigThe Big Interview Podcast. You know the
ten Crack of Members, the Biggiesong. So I used to have a
promo on my show and it wasthe Hot five at nine and DJ Premier
did the beat for me and Bigwas listening to the radio heard the beat
wanted it for a song. Premierecalled me. It was like, yo,
Big wants your high five at ninebeat for a song. And he

(00:21):
was like, it's but it's yours. Is it cool if I give it
to him? I was like,yeah, of course it's Big, give
him the beat. I remember thatMartinez much, don't you? Woke up
boys? Music songs, Big Boys, neighborhood, beautiful day in the neighborhood,
Ladies and gentlemen. This is anhonor and a pleasure. This is
not for real, though, AngieMartinez in the neighborhood. I love you,

(00:44):
Big, I love you too.Welcome back, Thank you man,
man, that's our pleasure. Iwas only in town for a day.
Yeah, man, you made ithappen too. I appreciate you Big.
You know what I'm won't tell youstraight up, man, Like if I
had a turnaround schedule and it ain'tabout like Angie Martinez or anyone. I
don't think I would have showed up. I'm a better person than you are,

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you know, and you really are, and a lot of things though,
you know, and a lot ofthings. Your book out sold mine.
It's not a competition. You bringthat up every time I see you.
I feel like you're really harboring.No, and it's not about you.
Like your book came out and itwas my voice, right, Yeah,
it was a New York Times bestseller. That's what I was about to
say that, saying it's a NewYork Times best seller and mine sold a

(01:30):
couple of copies, you know whatI'm saying, Like mine was a seller.
People just didn't buy it, butit was a seller. It definitely
wasn't a best not a reflection ofhow people feel about you, because I
know people love you. It isjust maybe I don't know, maybe the
team, maybe the marketing plan Ihad one of the biggest publishing companies.
Did you go out on a fulltour, because I did, Like,
I worked a tour and the booksigning. Let me tell you about my

(01:53):
tour. I was in I thinkI was in Harlem. You told me
people, Yeah, and one ofthe people who are homeless, and it
was cold outside, and they askedme, did I want them to take
him out because she was sleep andI was like, no, you know,
just let this stay. That shouldhave been a bad sign. Yeah,
man, yeah, yeah, Wellyou know what was great and thank

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you great and so it's not areflection. Okay, okay, cool,
that makes me feel better all thattherapy money too. But go ahead,
I'll tell you when you beat mein one that you you you got a
star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yeah, man, before I got
a star in Hollywood. You beatme, you win back. Well,
you know, it's not really acompetition, but yeah I did not.

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But congratulations to you on getting yourstart your class at twenty twenty four.
Yeah, they just we just announcedit recently. I have to thank you
because you're a part of the committeethat voves right now for this thing,
so I have to thank you forAnd when I saw that you got into
because when I saw that you werenominated, I was like, well,
well it's a lot to it.But it was like who who who?
And I was like, man,we got to nominate, Angie, we

(02:59):
got to nominate And then but it'salso your career and the great things that
you've done that got you in becausewhen I when I brought your name up
to the committee, they had togo back and look and you know,
see what was going on. Butcongratulations, that's why thank you so much.
I'm coming to your ceremony. Noteven something I thought. It wasn't

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even something to think, oh Iwant to get I didn't even think that.
It wasn't like a bucket list.It wasn't even a thing I thought
was in my world. Like,it just never even occurred to me that
I could have. I remember makingmaking that call. I was like,
dude, do you have a star? He was like na, And you
can tell you weren't thinking about it. I think I didn't even think star
I could have. I could haveaspired to. But you know that is

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a testament to that's why it's importantwho's in the room, right, Like,
we have to have representation, wehave to have people in the room.
That's the only way we'd lift eachother up. And you are somebody
who gets in the room and thenlifts other people up. And yeah,
because I have people in the roomfrom I will do the same one.
Oh you definitely will. I willdo this, you definitely will. Have
you picked it date yet for yours? I haven't yet because I don't.
I don't even understand all this.Somebody told me Michael B. Jordan's got

(04:05):
his. He held it until Creedcame out, right, People hold it
until there's like a moment. Gooddate. Because I got mine on my
birthday. That's good. Yeah,I made sure of that. But picked
that date. That probably means somethingto you going to do that. I'm
gonna do it on your birthday.And then I got to be out there
at the store on my birthday.Oh yeah, yes, and every birthday.

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No, I'm definitely going to bethere. Wait man class at twenty
twenty four. Angie, we've beenin radio for years. Do you keep,
like how many years you've been on? Well? I hate when I
have to do you know, allthis hip hop fifty talk. Everybody's like,
do you remember in nineteen ninety nine? I'm like, oh God,
here we go with the dates,because dates and times it's all like a
blur to me. I remember moments, and I remember interactions with people and

(04:49):
feelings. I don't remember what year, who dropped what, Like, it's
just a blurb. Do people askyou, Angie, what's your favorite interview?
Yah, I don't know. Mystupidest question in the world. It's
like, what was your favorite breakfastyou ever had? I don't know.
Every day I don't knows great breasts, I don't know. I don't.
I mean, I don't have one, and I'm coming up on year thirty.

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But I don't have like an interviewwhere I'm like, man, this
was the best. Yeah, butdon't you have like these? I have
memorable ones, memorable not only justmemorable ones overall, but little pieces.
It's funny cause I do it onmy podcast. I do a segment called
Takeaway. It's like, what's thetakeaway? What's the thing that stays with
you. It could sometimes be thelittlest thought that somebody says. It could
be a big interview, and it'dbe the littlelest thing that you just remember

(05:35):
for years and just stays with youto take away. So I have a
lot of those. I got thosetwo, A lot of little moments where
people drop the jewel, either forme or for the audience or do you
forget guests sometimes where people were like, oh, like we're happy to have
you on my show. They werelike, Andrew, I've been here twice
four hey, man, really meaningful. I remember I hit one person and

(05:56):
I was like, man, youstill haven't come to the neighborhood. And
she sent me picture. I waslike, oh, okay, all right,
I'm sorry about that. Then.Yeah. And it's not that you
know, you don't it's like ablur or it wasn't important. I just
it's it because we do a lotof it. Yeah, yeah, man,
it doesn't take we don't take itfor g Yeah. But I have
those shows and you where it's like, okay. I remember nine eleven,

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nine eleven, we came in andyou know, it was it was like
five o'clock in the morning here onthe West Coast, and I remember my
guy Fuzzy came out and he waslike, man, some idiot just crashed
into you know, the twin towersin to the World Trade Center and we
were like what. And we gointo the office and we see the second
plane come in live. Once wesaw that, we were like, oh,

(06:41):
like what the hell is going on? We tried to do this regular
show that day. Impossible. Impossible. So that show memorable for me,
and that show came back a lotthe time when I imagine me doing my
show, I had to worry werethere to breed to get to the station,
Like you know what was that likethat day? The crazy thing is
the day I couldn't get in becauseI was in New Jersey. I was

(07:01):
with my mom in Jersey and sowhen it happened, we couldn't get into
the city. So actually on nineto eleven, I was not on the
radio, which was crazy wow.And we were feeding a feed like a
news feed through the channel doing acertain thing, and then we got our
feedback and the next day I waslike, yeah, I can't come in.
It's all blocked. And our programdirector at the time, Tracy,
she was like, Angie, thisis a terrible time for our city and

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it's so weird. Don't make itweirder by your voice not being on the
radio. And I was like,oh my god, I'm on my way.
I don't know how I'm going toget in there, but I'm going
to. I didn't even I didn'teven process. That's part of it,
Like, don't make it weirder foreverybody or more different. You have to
come try to get normal, buthard work. I literally had to walk

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through a long time because you know, they wouldn't let cars in the area
because with the station was in NewYork, it's walking distance from the buildings,
so I was I had to walkI don't know, I want to
say, thirty blocks down and there'sstill debris in the air, smoking the
air. This will stay with meforever, the sense of what that was
like. And then getting on theradio and then like, what do you

(08:05):
do? You know, we're nottrained from this, right what we come
from hip hop and we're like,okay, you know, we like we
have lifestyle conversations, but we're nottrained for nine to eleven attack And there's
people literally literally walking distance, fightingfor their lives, jumping out of windows.
And I remember we tried to doa regular show and we were like

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we can't ye and I remember,do you know Jennifer Norwood, Yeah,
Jennifer called us. She was inNew York at the time, and I
remember we're like, well, youknow, what's going on? And she
was giving us kind of a playby play, and then she just started
screaming, and you know, andnow we're like, wonder what's happening.
She's like, they're jumping out thewindows. People are jumping out the windows.
So that Angie is a show thatI remember, and it comes back

(08:50):
to me announcing to La that Tupacdied me to is another show, even
in New York that continues to comeback. You remember what that show felt
like? Oh god, yeah,I was on the air. You know,
it's so crazy that I tell thisstory in my book to that when
Pop passed, you know, itwasn't social media like that, so it
didn't spread like that. I calledthe hospital. I was on the air
and called the hospital because I keptcalling to check on him, just to

(09:11):
check during the days when Park wasstill with us. Yeah, I called
the hospital and and somebody on thephone just like told me that past had
passed, but people didn't really knowyet. It hadn't come out of spread.
And she told me on the phone, and I was on the air,
and and so that's why I wasthat called live or you had it
wasn't live. But then I woundup telling the city and I cried,

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and I was I never cried onthe radio. You know, we don't
cry on the radio, right,you know, but it was you know,
people to this day will tell meI remember that day. You remember
because it happened in the moment,and when you said no social media,
that's the same that it was thesame. It was like, I remember
we heard something. But that's thethings that connect us to our audience,
right, that's the things that weremember forever, you and I because we

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we had to do it, butalso the people that were listening and were
with us. That's what really connectsus to our Yeah, man, and
it's raw. It's raw, andit's not rehearsed. And I remember the
saying we came in and they werelike, man, we're hearing certain things.
And I remember we huddled in anoffice and we were talking in the
office and we started making calls andthen we got like a legitimate person on

(10:16):
the phone that was and when thatperson was like, yeah, man,
you know, we lost them,so on and so forth. Of course,
it's not social media. It wasn'tthis wildfire that spread. And I
remember Angie literally walking from that officeback to to the the booth and thinking,
I gotta tell people that Pock isgone. And this is crazy to

(10:39):
me. It was like almost likethat graduation step where you just take one
step, you pause, next stepyou pause, And I remember not fast
forward to you know, the yearsnow and pock is still held so very
high. I knew what it wasat that moment, and it felt crazy
and the phone lines going off andpeople calling in and people were really really

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affected, especially the days of Pocbeing alive and then having to announce that
he passed, because people were thinking, like, man, he took you
know, he got shot before,and pak could get through this and you
have the whale wishes, but youknow that that was another show. Yeah,
remember when we were all young too. None of us were prepared for
that. None of us were preparedfor that because we hadn't experienced it before,
so we didn't. I don't know. It was like we knew that

(11:20):
there was danger all the time andstuff like that, and people had passed,
but I don't know, we justI don't. I for sure was
floored. What was it like inNew York around that time. Oh god,
it was horrible. It was likenobody nobody expected that, and you
know, we had all all thatstuff going on, but nobody. I
don't think anybody thought that that wouldhappen. Yeah, that it can get

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that serious. It was. Itfelt like it's like when we brought you
do you imagine your audience when you'retalking. Yeah, oh yeah, but
you know, so I could feelthe tone of what like, if something
scandalous is going on, I imagineeverybody's like by their an what did he
say? What did she say?Oh? He lying? You know that
type. I could have kind offeel the energy of the audience that day.

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I felt like if the city wasjust like sad and still, and
you know, I'm not in everybody'sliving rooms or homes, but it's what
it felt like from my side andpeople at that time, people listened and
quiet and just shocked, shocked still, you know. Yeah, And it
was it's wold because people listened differentand it wasn't like you had streaming services

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and everything just popped up on youand you can go to social media.
It was like you heard it eitherin one place or a couple places and
not just pocked just news period andno, we were the social radio was
social media of the game. Andpeople would say, you know all big
said, Angie said, you knowwhat I'm saying. So, yeah,
that's one of the most proudest thingsI have about my career in my life.

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It's like that we had a lotof power at that time. Yeah,
and I didn't. I never.I just never let that lead me
or I never misused that. Idon't think so. I mean somebody could
be like, well, you couldhave did this better, and maybe there's
moments in my career in life Icould have did different things, maybe better,
but I never really, I don'tknow. I feel like people could

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have misused that type of power.Oh yeah, so many ways. Definitely
so. And also I think earlyon you started to thinking and you understand
your gift can be I was alsovery grateful. I was always grateful,
and I was always surprised, andI'm surprised that people would share these stories
with me even I think I wasthinking about this the other day, like

(13:31):
Big and remember that love triangle betweenBig and Faith and Kim, And they
used to come to my show andtell all this stuff and the city was
all involved. It was like anovella, like but it was I don't
know, it's like love and theyI don't know. People just trusted me
to tell their story whatever. Youwere almost like the couch. I just
felt, you know how when peoplesay man, like I have people that

(13:52):
are still to this day say ohman, he never or she never let
that much out. You know,it's comfortable. Even if somebody would say
certain things on your show, Angie, you never felt like like you were
just you never felt messy, Younever felt like you were in the middle
of it like girl. And youknow what I'm saying, it was trying
to hurt. Yeah. But butthat right there, too, is not

(14:13):
a fine line, because it's aline that people just walk. If you
got it, you got it.And you can't teach character. You can't
teach character, man and characters.What's being said about you when you're not
in the room. And when you'renot in the room, Angie, people
speak beautiful things about you. Andthat right there is the many deposits that
you made into whatever account this isof life. You made some great deposits,

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you know, and people people trustyou when they say the voice of
New York, that's real. Youknow what I'm saying. You know,
I say all of that right backto you. I take it. Can
you say it? Well? Itwas a means so much to the city
and a pillar of just you knowwhat I mean, good energy and a

(14:58):
platform for people. And and you'veand you've had so much integrity throughout your
career, you wrapped your arms aroundso many artists. Angie. I wasn't
out. I wasn't looking for youto say that, but thank you.
I appreciate that. Man. Consistencycommitments. Yeah, man, what do
you think your stay in power is? And I know that's a very generic

(15:20):
question, but we've seen people inour business, Angie that's here today and
gone tonight and and now these years. Yeah, but this time goes like
this. Now, you know,what do you think it is? If
there is something that you've thought about. For me, I'm always just trying
to figure out what's next. Imean, radio has been good to me
in the sense that I've had thisplatform. It's like my home base,

(15:41):
but it has and I've also workedwith people over the years that have not
stopped me from doing other things,because I think that that has always kept
me moving forward in my career.My juices. I could do a book,
and I could do a disappearance inthis movie, or I could do
some music at that time, orI could always you know, now,
I'm playing around with production and writingand things like that, and so I'm
able to roll as an individual whileI'm still doing radio. Radio is just

(16:03):
like my basis, like part ofit's almost like you still enjoy it.
It's almost like a limb, right, right, even if you stop,
you still have it's just my leg, you know what I mean? Do
you still enjoy I do? Yeah? Not every day, like anything,
nobody enjoys anything. You keep itreal, I think, yeah, no,
not every day. I think youhave to have enough work ethic to
get the days that you don't enjoywhatever you're doing. Like if you love

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being a doctor, but so youdon't want to get up today, right,
somebody needs a heart today, Soyou get up and you do it.
Your work ethic and your drive hasto get you through the days.
Like maybe you don't love it asmuch, right, but like eighty eighty
five percent of the time, stilllove right, right right? Can you
imagine not having it? No?Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's
my leg. I told you said, I said leg. You can rewind

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this really all. The one thingabout you is you don't pay attention to
your guess. It's the number onerule of interviewing is you must pay attention
to your Yeah. Well, welllet me write that down thirty years later.
You know something now, yeah,now I learned book would have sold

(17:11):
more if that was terrible. Thatwas terrible. That was Martinez. I
love you. But yeah, bythe way, maybe my book would have
sold more, Angie, if copiesgot off the shelf. You ever thought
about that? I will tell youwhere there is one in my house.

(17:32):
Did you buy it exactly I hadhanded to you? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I do have a besthandout book. I would have bought it.
You would have given me the opportunityto buy it. I would have
it. You gave it to metoo soon. Oh okay, blame it
on me. Yeah. Yeah,she has the best seller. I have
the best giveaway. So you're sayingthat you dabbling and other things now too,

(17:53):
like production and writing. Yeah.I want to do you know,
I want to do bigger story EverythingI want to do I'm so interested in,
Like I don't know the documentary storytelling. So I've kind of been framing
out some white It's too soon totalk about any of that stuff. But
the future of my career, Ithink is a little bit more behind than
in front, right I I won'talways be in front, but I do

(18:14):
have I do have a strong I'vebeen writing a lot. I badly have
three scripts in my house that Ihave finished, and and so I don't
know where they land or which onegoes first, or you know, I'm
still trying to figure out what thenext phase. But it is definitely in
creating stories, whether it's you know, scripted or documentary not okay, So
you know that I do know that, I do feel that in my bones.

(18:34):
Yeah man. And plus now,like even when you were talking about
when nine eleven happened, you couldn'tget to the studio, you couldn't make
it. You had to walk.Now, even with technology, technology is
different where you know, some peopleare doing their shows from their homes and
some people doing their shows from theroad. And now with everything that you
have, that's kind of at ourfingertips there you can I'm doing my show

(18:56):
from here today, from your office. I really don't it is, I
am. Yeah, man, Todaywe've seen a lot. I remember when
I and you and you as well, I'm sure Angie. When I first
got into the game, it waslike carts. You know what I'm saying.
Oh my god, you remember weused to have these. So you
know how you edit in that littlemachine and it takes you two seconds,
So you had the real to reel. Yeah. So when I first some
of my earlier interviews, all bigpack, all those JA early J interviews

(19:19):
is all on reel to reels,so it'd be a real And then the
way you would edit it is youwould take a knife. I mean not
a knife, a razor blade.You cut this piece and that's part of
him talking about this, and youcut this piece and then you tape it
together. Remember this. So Iwould go home with a razor blade cuts
all over my finger from editing interviewsand if you've cut the wrong that made

(19:41):
me sound like one hundred and fiftyyears old. It just seems like so
much effort, like, not ina bad way, like it just seems
like there was so much work andpassion really put into it. Oh yeah,
cause you had to do it likethat. I was nice with the
Rais'd be like, hey, dude, once I learned that that's when they

(20:02):
started going digital. So I waslike you mother, I was like,
are y'all serious? Yeah, becausethat that's true. I remember cutting and
splicing it, and if you cutsomething out, it was gone. It
was because I was really good atI got I got good as soon as
I got so here's how it goespeople. So it will be like somebody

(20:23):
if somebody's telling the story and theygo, yeah, so I woke up
and I'm I'm m I was hungry. You're like, good lord, My
listeners are gonna fall as man.So then you change it to I woke
up and I was hungry. Yeah, so that's all the listener hears.
The listener doesn't hear the ten umsin between. You know why, because
I got raised the blaker to putthat together, and I would be sitting

(20:48):
there like you mother, Do youknow what I gotta do when you leave
from here? All those damn yeah, man, like oh my gosh,
man, or curses you have tocut the curses out. And you're editing
all by sounds because you can't,like you know, now, we see
a wave file right, trial isa piece of it's a piece of blessed
by sound. Yeah, you doit correct? Yeah, man, you

(21:11):
kids nowadays got it easy. No, we sound one hundred years old and
yeah, I'm okay with it.How are you with that? I'm very
good with I'm very good. Ilove my like, I'm okay with age.
People. People we get weirded outby it, but I'm here.
Why I'm here, man, I'mhere. I embrace it, you know
what I'm saying. God will andI got more ahead of me. But

(21:32):
nah, and it's been and it'sbeen wonderful. I've had I've been having.
Yeah, Man, you know what'scrazy about hip hop being fifty Angie
is that we've been there professionally aswell, and not just as children of
hip hop, professionally for more thanhalf you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's crazy. The contributions also tohip hop that we have given and

(21:55):
the hip hop that we have received, and we've been through, you know,
we've been through you know, BadBoy, Cash, Money, Rock
and Fell like just seeing those forthe first time and introducing I remember first
sit down with Destiny's Child, Iremember first sitting down with DMX, my
first sit down with Ice Cube,with Snoop Dogg. You know, like

(22:15):
I remember all those first do youremember like a young method man or young
you had everybody the same way Idid. Yeah, all of them,
not not amultag all of the yeah, all of them, mob deep and
then so many people that are nothere and which always makes me so sad.
But yeah, DMX and you know, I was in New York.

(22:36):
So in New York in the nineties, it was like, you know,
it was like the golden era ofthat and that's when I was started my
career. So it was you know, Mary was young Me and me and
young Mary was in the streets.Uh. You know. I probably played
Jay's record, probably first jay Zrecord. People that were like, well,
who's that Jazzy? His name isjay Z. I put him in
the Battle of Beats. He was, he was a new artist. I

(22:57):
put him. I put his songin the battle and everybody and he won
like five nights in a row.I didn't know who he was. I
just you know, I played thesong and he showed up. He showed
up with Dame Dash after to thankme for putting him in the battle,
and they brought me a bottle ofcrystal at the time. Yeah, So
all those artists were like babies,and so was I. So we kind

(23:17):
of all grew up together. ButI happened to be on the radio at
the same time. My little radiowas my high school. In college,
I started at eighteen, so Iwas I grew up on the literally life
life, no, literally on theradio. Grew up there. How do
you keep your and I don't knowif you live on the air a lot,
but if you have a bad day, did you talk about a certain

(23:38):
bad day or did your listeners livewith you as well? Like I know
with my listeners, I let themin on something something. Some things you
don't. Yeah, no, somethings I don't. And also I don't
know. I always I never wantedit to be me, me me.
My mother my mother was in radioright, and she used to talk about
how the jocks, how Jos usedto be like, it's me my voice.

(23:59):
I love the sound my voice.I'm the me me me me.
So I was always mindful of that, like I did never made the con
I wanted the conversations to be aboutthe guests and artists, and I tried
to think of my audience and whatthey care about. So I never really
internalized, like, man, I'mhaving a day, this is why,
this is what I'm going through.Sometimes I did like they knew when I
was pregnant, they knew when Iwas sick, they knew when I had
the baby, they knew when Iwas you know, all those things.

(24:21):
But so this is why I kindof now so now I have the podcast.
Also right, because I went throughso much in my life where I
felt like there's so many people thatconnected me. I want to be able
to share in a in a ina way where I could tell them what
I've learned and what I've been throughand how I got to the other side
of it, because I always,I do believe our stories inform other people

(24:41):
when they're in those same type ofcrisises. Right, We're supposed to share
in those moments. That's that's whyGod does that. So we have so
we get on the other side andthen we share and hopefully people experience.
So I started the podcast in reallife so that I could have a platform
where I could say, Man,I went through this and this is hard,
but this is how I did it, and asking other people and so
so. On the radio, Itend to like lean into my guests and

(25:04):
lean into the audience, and thenon my podcast, I lean into myself
and my experience is a little bitmore. So that's the difference I know
with radio. For me, itwas always a place that I can go
to that was a safe zone too. Like when my mom passed. My
mom passed on a Wednesday, Angie, and I was back here at work
on Friday. And it wasn't becauseit or it didn't hurt, or I

(25:25):
just needed to come back here.I needed that, And I felt a
certain way because it's seven of us. Did you talk about it on the
air? I talked about it onthe air, and it's seven of us
and I and I felt a certainway because my brothers and sisters didn't have
that. Like I walked back inand I was able to talk about my
mom and you know, people wereable to call and it wasn't like,

(25:45):
oh, your mom, your mom. It was just I needed that because
you know, not that we're alot of other people, but I needed
them at that day, wrapped theirarms around in a major, major,
major way. That's beautiful. Youknow. I think I think people got
to know me just because I'm beingmyself every day, but I think the
deeper part of me sometimes I didn'tshare as much. So but then when

(26:08):
I made that transition in my career, I had been on the same radio
station for over twenty years and thenI left. And when I left,
it was like all that energy cameback to me. Like I could not
walk the streets without somebody going,oh my god. The time you said
this, and then this is it. All of a sudden, the energy
went so and I realized, ohman, it's not a one sided relationship

(26:30):
like we've had a two side ofrelationship this whole time. I just felt
it so strongly when I got offthe air. I'm not always kind of
knew, but I felt it sostrongly. I felt like my city,
were you off? Put there fora little bit before you go to the
next spot. Yeah, unto power, not enough. It was only like
maybe a month, right right.I wish because my whole life I've worked.

(26:52):
I've never not worked for a longI wish I would have taken a
few months to maybe travel, maybedo some cool you know whatever. And
no I didn't. I went rightback to work and with me when when
I left. And it's crazy becauseour careers are there there to say you
left the station that you were atfor twenty years. Book except for the
book, but you know what,I'm writing a new book and watch how
this one? Yeah, and nowthat I have social media marketing plans,

(27:18):
but you know, when I hadit, we didn't have all the social
media that we had about to killit. Yeah, So now man,
it's about me it's about life.It's about transfer, not just just with
taking care of who you are growingup. But yeah, you know,
and it's not like, oh Iwas born in you know, pure Illinois
and I moved to California when Iwas one years old. You know,

(27:38):
this is just more a book whereyou can say, like damn saying here
me too. Yeah I feel thatway. So it's not my story,
it's it's like our story collectively,you know, with some gyms in there
as well, you know, andwatch this one. Let's make sure this
marketing plan is together. And Igot social media this time, okay,
Yeah, we didn't have like Instagramand all that. I think I wrote

(27:59):
my book too early, okay,but can't just be social media. We
need a book tour. Yeah,we need to well you know what I
need to We need to let mego on that tour. And yeah,
I know, yeah you know whatI'm saying, like, yeah it was
television. Yeah, yeah, I'lldo some television this time too. Yeah,
yeah, come do, I willinterview. Could we could do my

(28:22):
show and my podcast? Yeah,I'm gonna have to do We're gonna have
to do everything because if this happensagain, it's gonna be bad for me.
You know, as your people,we are not going to allow that.
We're gonna do everything that we can'tto support Because I had people on
the last one too, and sodifferent people. Where are you right?
Right? They were praying for mydownfall. That's where everybody was at.

(28:47):
But what I was getting to wasyou you was at a station for over
twenty years. Yeah, I wasat a station forward twenty years. What
did New York feel like when youmade the announcement or they knew that you
were leaving? Yeah, so whenthey know I was leaving, they didn't
know I was going somewhere else.They just thought I was leaving. And
it was so that's why I wasso emotional. Everybody was like, oh
my god. Then and then thenthis happened. So I got this big

(29:08):
like hug from my city. Itwas so amazing. But yeah, people
were so supportive I was. Iwas so inspired by it, Like I
literally I was like, Oh,they lifted me up so much. I
felt like I have to do somethingfor you. What can I get to?
What could I do? And soI was like I need to do
something else. And then I woundup. The next I signed up for

(29:29):
the New York City Marathon, andI ran the marathon that year because I
wanted I don't know, I justwas I wanted to do something with all
that energy I got. I feltI needed to do something maybe inspiring,
even if it was just to myselfand so, and that was really inspired
by the love that I got formy saying. So I was like,
I'm gona run marathon. It wasa stupid idea, but I did it,
and the entire I was. Ilimped the last few miles skip,

(29:52):
but I finished. Yet it isright and it was been paying for about
a year after. But yes,but that's that's in the rear view mirror
now. Yeah, I'll never dothat again. But yeah, I felt
super inspired and I felt I don'tknow, I just felt appreciated. When
I made the movie, it wasscary for me because pivotal changes get and
and I was changed resistant anyway,I always thought like, man, I'm

(30:18):
I'll never leave you know power oneoh six. So I'm gonna hang my
jersey in the rafters rafters and Iwas like, I'm here. And then
when you make a life decision,and plus other people had things to say
when I left you know what I'msaying. It wasn't it wasn't all love
because the way that they revealed howI was leaving, they tried to burn
me and I I really just man, I could have did the other stations

(30:42):
so bad because I had the playbook, I was in the meetings. I
know how they felt. But Godtold me, don't do nothing, don't
say nothing, just go ahead andyou know, take care of you,
take care of your family. Andthat's what I've been doing. That's what
I've been doing. Man. Youknow, I stepped out on faith,
even if you can't see the wholestaircase, and here we are, we

(31:03):
are, we are still here.When you send me something to say,
where you go somewhere where you're celebratedand not tolerated. Yeah yeah, man,
it is not my words, butthose are good means that you can
send around quality. Yeah yeah.Or so often you catch something like oh
this sounds good. Yeah, likeI use that, yeah man. So
just getting back into you know,the the guests that would come into fifty

(31:27):
years of hip hop, the thingsthat we've had had a chance to see
through throughout our career. Is thereanything that you just can't believe, Like
damn. Either I was a partof that or I had a chance to
bear a witness to that. Yeah, man, all of it, all
of it. Because, like Isaid, I feel like I was coming
of age at the same time theculture was coming of age. I got

(31:48):
to run the streets with some ofthe biggest artists in the world, but
they weren't then, they were justaspiring artists. And so I got to
see that, and so that myrelationships are strong because of that, and
and just witness it to witness youknow, some of the and it's I
don't know, it's weird sometimes.I This is one of the reasons probably
I want to do documentaries and thingslike that, because I feel like a

(32:08):
lot of stories get lost, especiallyof radio, because radio back then.
Now, when you do an interview, it's on video, we see it
on YouTube after it lives forever.You see clips on social media, so
people will remember these recent interviews ofthe recent years. But in the early
nineties, when I was interviewing jayZ and Big and mob Deep and Nas

(32:28):
and all these artists, it wasaudio. It was just live, so
we weren't even halftimes recording it.So we would imagine I'm on the air
five nights a week. I havea guest, sometimes two guests, So
we're talking about ten interviews a week, just spitting through all the time.
And this is Golden era prime time. So Mace is coming, then DMX
stops in and he leaves, andthen this one comes, and jay Z's

(32:49):
on Thursday, and Mary's coming onFriday. I mean, it was like,
of course, people would pop inall the time and they'd be in
the lobby and I'd be like,oh my god, such and such as
here, but they gotta wait becauseI'm finishing with this one. It was
all day and it wasn't prepared interviewswhere you have now. It's like I
got these questions and this is now. Sometimes I mean I have memories of
Big coming in and eating sitting inthe studio eating Chinese food, and we'd

(33:12):
be on the radio just like,so, what's up, what'd you do
today? Like some regular It wasn'tlike it's like we're eavesdropping. It wasn't
an interview. It was just likeit was. It was just a culture
and an environment place where people whereartists felt comfortable coming and chatting. And
yeah, there's some of the interviewswere a little heavier when there was things.
Some of them we were just likehanging out in the room. But
in the middle of that, allthese amazing moments happened that I don't feel

(33:34):
are well documented, even some ofthe bigger moments. Did you record any
of those? Oh yeah, Ihad some, and over the time people
have taped and sent me some,so I have a lot. Like there
was a you know, when JAYZand r Kelly went on that tour and
then they had to fight and Tatasprayed R Kelly and the middle of the
night. So when they got offthe when I got when they got off
the stage, Kaiser from Depth Chymcalled me and was like, Jay wants
to get on the radio. Iwas like, okay, cool. He

(33:54):
was like no, no, hewants to talk to you on the radio.
I was like, it's late atnight. I'm not on this,
not my shift. He was like, wolves, he wants you to go
to the radio set. So Icalled. I think it was big Dennis
was on a call. I waslike, Hi, Dennis, I need
you to I know you're working,but I'm gonna come and take over the
show because this is that on themiddle of the night midnight, so Big

(34:15):
Dennis is like, no problem,man, come on in. So I
get in, I put the micon. Jay shows up. While Jay's
on the radio, and he's tellingme what happened, and this guy he's
been such a problematic R Kelly isin the middle. So the whole city's
listening because everybody was at the concertwhen it went crazy and left, So
the whole city's listening in the middleof the night. Then after Jay's almost
done with the interview, I geta call and says R. Kelly's listening

(34:37):
and he wants to come tell hisside of the story. I say,
okay, come on down. Soit's at one am, or what I
might be. It could have beentwo am. I don't know. It
could be one thing. Don't quoteme on the exact time. It was
late. So Jay z leaves.R Kelly comes in. Now R Kelly's
on. Mind you. His eyesare still puffy and red because I can't

(34:57):
deny that somebody peppers pray seeing him. His eyes are like this. He's
got his glasses but you could seeit. And he's trying to tell his
side of the story. He thoughtsomebody was in the crowd with a gun.
And so all of this is happeninglive on the radio, and we
weren't videotaping. We weren't really taping. Thank god, over the years,
other people who were listening were taping. So I do have it, but
it's not clear. It's not youknow. So that's just one moment.

(35:20):
And when I tell you, whenI tell you, I could spit out
thirty of those moments that were nothighly documented. And so I feel like
there's a big piece of the cultureof the history that it's like it's missing
a little bit. So I'm sosuper grateful to have been part of that.
So but when I think about thehistory, I think about those moments
and I'm like, I hope thoseI hope they don't go away, you
know what I mean? Or justeven clubs like the Tunnel Club in New

(35:44):
York, which is so legendary.This generation doesn't even in New York.
I don't know what In La.La has a little bit more of a
night life and New York's like notreally this hookah bars and stuff. It's
not the Palladium, Ain't there theTunnel, Ain't there big clubs that we
used to have from La went tothe Tunnel being from La you know,
going to the Palladium like those thoseclubs came back to us that we had

(36:07):
to be there so it could youimagine that I experienced. My twenty fifth
birthday party was at the Palladium nightclub. Wu Tang was there, jay Z
was there, Faith Evan saying mehappy birthday. Biggie was there drinking champagne
on the top level. You know. It was this, I'm telling you,
this was the Fat Joe's there.The whole of hip hop culture is
there having a party at this bigclub with two thousand New York, regular

(36:30):
New Yorkers, you know, justpartying with their favorite artists in one building.
That was nightlife. I always wishthat I documented the years better.
Yeah, me too, That iswhat my one regret is that, Yeah,
man, photos, I never tookphotos of people, and I was
I remember my last time seeing Bigright. I remember he was on crutches

(36:51):
and we were at the Yeah andwe were at the Palace out here,
and I remember when I was aboutto leave to go to a club.
Any way, somebody was like,hey, they said, man, do
you want to take a picture.We're Big before Big before we be bounced,
I said, man, I said, no, I'm good because he's
coming to the station next week orthe week after or whatever. And never

(37:12):
got that. You know, wegot pictures, but never got that last
one. You never know when you'regonna see someone for the last time,
or just those moments like I'll listento Howard Stern and Howard Stern and say,
oh, I remember the first timesuch as it, and they have
everything recording I know, and Iwish I had damned some of that,
even my Tupac drops. I rememberyou have Tupac drops. No. I
erased my Tupac drops out of respect, thinking I'm you're raising them out of

(37:37):
respect, like man, pock isgone. I'm not gonna play these again,
and it'd be crazy and weird andgoofy whatever the words were back then
if I played it, erase themand now yeah, yeah, man,
So I wish I would have.I wish I would have documented better.
And also sometimes now you know howwe are, like we're interviewing people all
the time, so sometimes our scheduleo our life, we can't get to

(37:58):
everything. But now sometimes I alwayssecond guests saying no to something because you
never know. So I remember beingat the station one time and somebody called
and was like, I was gettingready to leave. I had something I
had to do. I was packingup, and they were like, hi,
so Amy Winehouse is in the areaand she wants to know if she
could come by. She's shopping inSoho and she wanted to come by the
show. I was like, oh, okay. She wasn't like Amy Winehouse

(38:21):
yet. She was like a newartist at the time, and I was
like, I gotta go. Canwe just figure out another day? Because
I was getting ready to leave andI just resetting up, trying to find
somebody to do, you know.Just I was just like, uh,
but when I think about it now, I could have made it happen.
But I just was like, Eh, we'll do it another day. We
didn't plan it. They should havecalled me. They should have planned it,

(38:44):
you know. And then obviously,so then she blew up, and
then I wanted to becoming the biggestAmy Whitehouse fan. I was like a
fan and I was like, oh, I can't wait till I get to
interview her. Damn. I wishI would have did it that day.
And then she died and I don'thave not one time do I did you
ever meet her? Never met her, never interviewed her. And so whenever
somebody whenever I'm too busy on myschedule is too tight, and somebody's like

(39:07):
such as such as in town,I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll
not always because you physically got totake care of so you can't do every
single night. But I do thinkabout it all the time. I think
about the notion that maybe this opportunitymight not come again. And you know
what I do also, and notjust with guests, if somebody passed on,
I just say, man, youknow what, I made that decision

(39:29):
in life. You know what I'msaying. I made that decision in life
not knowing that this person was goingto pass. Like if there's somebody that
I didn't get in touch with,I'm like, ah, damn, you
know what I'm saying, Like,but I catch them on the other side,
God willing. You know what I'msaying, That they're gonna be at
the right place, you know whatI'm saying. But but yeah, And
there's been times in my career whereI'm just like, man, I wish

(39:50):
I would have had one more momentor or when the microphone was off like,
I wish that they had something likeAnnie is strictly into AI and every
thing that's coming. I wish thatyou could take your memories and just download
them. Maybe you can that availableanytime soon. They have it on the
show something. Yeah. But yeah, those are times where I'm just like

(40:13):
man, I wish I would havedocumented my career and just some of the
great sit downs. But I havegreat memories and moments. Not only have
great memories, but your city hasgreat memories of the work that you've done
too. Yeah. Man, youcan't put a price, and I love
it. I love it, man, And people, I've never said no
to a picture. You know.I love the love. I don't run

(40:35):
from the love. And I knowwhat the problem is and standing and taking
a picture. That's not a problem, you know what I'm saying. And
I always say, man, Iwould rather ask, Yeah, can you
imagine if you are hurting me?Right? It's some big Here's what happened.
Let me tell ladies you know whatI just did. I had to
sow my ear lobe. Oh really, wearing door knock is my whole life.

(41:00):
They got too heavy, so thenthey damn hip hop had to give
me talking about the greatness of hiphop, talk about how it is.
Yeah, man, we don't talkabout what it is. I'm sting over
here with to totally replaced knee caps. I was, you know what I'm
saying, messing around doing all thatscoop and scrap level and flipping off a

(41:22):
big daddy's cane hands and doing backflipslike I had to wear these door knockers
were so long and fixed my earlobes, So now I have to wear
these clip ons for a couple ofweeks. Do you ever look back at
some of the old pictures to Angie, what do you mean? Yes,
I look crazy really well, havea lot of them. Yes, you
don't think so, you don't thinkyou look crazy? The only thing that
But you know what, at thetime, I didn't look and be like,

(41:43):
oh, tak a picture of me, like, oh man, I
look crazy. You know. Mything is I look at how big I
was. That's what looked crazy tome is how big I was. But
you'll probably look at something you werelike, man, that's big. Look
how big I was. My weightalways went up and down, and so
I was like, oh that's whereI was at that time. Well,

(42:04):
this time. I don't know,Angie, iconic Ladies' nights, so many
wonderful women of hip hop, andyou were part of that. What memories
do you have from there? Ohmy gosh, my gosh. Did you
ever see the girl who imitates theKardashians. Yeah, I've seen many that
have imitated them. This is theone she does all of them, the
one girl she does all on socialmedia and every time she talks about Cooe,

(42:29):
she goes, oh, my gosh, doing it. So anyway,
sorry, my gosh. When yousaid that Lady's Night was, I mean,
it's a memory that I have forever. I'm so grateful to have been
part of that. And it's funnybecause I've always been like shy about that
era of my life where I wasmaking music. When people bring up the
music, I'm always like, oh, If I'm at a party and they
play it, I'm like stop becauseI get embarrassed. But as of the

(42:50):
past year or two, I don'tknow, I embrace it more because I
feel so grateful to have had thoseexperiences. And when I think about Ladies'
Nights so iconic and how it meantso much to so many people that I
was just grateful, and I was, you know, I was the baby.
I'd never experienced that. So imaginelike today, somebody plucks you off
the radio and puts you on thissong and the next thing you know,
you're on a video shoot and you'reat the MTV Awards and you're at the

(43:13):
you're shooting like all types of stuff. With that my whole life on this
All Star team, I really wasthe rookie was. I never had maybe
rapped on a song one time beforethat, and it was eight bars I
did for a song for KRS oneand so, and you know, that
was literally the only song I'd everbeen on. Start at the Top one
in Redman and that was my firstsong and then Ladies and I came from

(43:36):
from that, So I was itwas the whole experience. It was like
it was like fun. It's likeit's like a kid who plays Little league
and then you know, Derek Jetercomes and says, come on, kid,
let's go. Let's go play agame of baseball, like with you
guys with the Yankees. Sorry myreference having Los Angeles references. You know

(43:57):
you saw what happened anyway, anyway, So yeah, it was that type
of feeling I just felt so Missyleft Eye kids. I mean just the
group was insane. And then likealso, I imagine the ladies of hip
hop right now, like Megan andI, Spice and Cardie seeing that when
they were younger and now they're runningthe game. Yeah, sure, I'd

(44:22):
love to see how many women,because you know, there was such a
big long time that we didn't havea lot of women. It was like
a handful at one time. Nowthere's so many. It's so dope to
see. I would love to seemore. I don't know, just a
moment like that, all of themkind of coming together. I loved seeing.
I mean, this is not related, but I loved seeing Beyonce show
up at Taylor Swift's at the moviepremiere because you know, it's like sometimes

(44:43):
just showing up for people that it'svery easy to pit people against each other,
especially when people wear crowns. Soanybody who has a crown on you
want to pit them against somebody elsewho has a crown, And it's like,
why can't we all two women withcrowns in the same place is like
so so much more powerful, AndI think if we would really embrace that
and really be aware of that,it's like, well Big, it's big.

(45:06):
The love that Big always has shownme, like he could be like
la voice in La is better thanthe voice of New York. We've never
had that. We've always been inspiredby each other and support each other,
and there's just so much. It'sjust it's just a better it's a better
world, it's a better experience.It's it's more inspiring to other people when
people stand with each other. Sothe Ladies Night was that experience for a

(45:27):
man in a big way. Andso yeah, super grateful for that.
I can't imagine what those memories Istill have. I still have. The
outfit in my class is the jetSki outfit. That one. No,
that was a great T shirt.That was a great shirt that I put
inside out because I vomited on theboat because the so I verse. So

(45:49):
when you watch the Ladies Night videoand you see me in the chair,
I had just my T shirt isinside out because I threw up on the
side of the boat and the bratwas like, well, just put your
T shirt inside out. He gota stain on the shirt. I was
like, hey, man, canyou imagine how many hip hop memories you
must have? That you probably don'teven think about that strowaways. That would
be like gems and jewels and tosomeone else, you know, or the

(46:15):
things that you've seen that no oneelse was privy to. Or sometimes people
will tell you something that you didthat you forgot about, and it's like
it's always so exciting. It's likeopening an unexpected box of like, oh
my god, that did happen?That's right? That was me. It
was like DJ Premier told me that. So you know, the ten crack
of mambis the biggie song. SoI used to have a promo on my

(46:35):
show and it was the Hot fiveat nine and DJ Premier did the beat
for me because it was Jay Woethe Damage. It was his artist.
So I had a beat from mypromo for my show and it was the
Hot five at nine and Big waslistening to the radio, heard the beat
wanted it for a song. Premierecalled me. It was like, yo,
Big, one's your high five atnine beat for a song and he
was like, it's but it's yours. Is it cool if I give it
to him? I was like,yeah, of course it's Big Give him

(46:57):
the beat and he made ten Crackof mammas with it, but it was
really my promo first. Yeah,so when I but I completely forgot about
that. And then Premiere told methat a few years ago, and I
was like, oh my god,that is right. So now every time
I hear ten Crack commandments, Ifeel like that was me. That was
my joint for him. That's howwe get down, That's how we get

(47:19):
down. But completely forgot about that. Yeah, man. So every now
and then somebody will unlock a thinglike a memory that I'm like, Wow,
that's dope. Life is crazy.Yeah, yeah, And I'm so
glad that we've had a chance tosit down because I just wanted to build
with you because you do your thingand I've been a fan for years,
you know what I'm saying. Andwe're like, we're like two bookings.

(47:42):
Yeah man, Yeah, the Voiceof La, the Voice of New York.
That's crazy, but you carry itit so well, so do you,
And you always lead with so muchlove and you always make me feel
even when I didn't know you aswell earlier, like I knew of you,
right, and we knew for Ithink for as many years we knew
of each other, but had reallyformed the relations ship yet, but when
we started to I always felt soimmediately loved, Like I just felt like

(48:06):
you always your arms were always open, you always you always felt like a
resource for me. I don't knowthat I've really ever used it, but
you always made me feel like ifI needed to call you for some you
would absolutely be there. Remember wewent to the White House? Yeah,
yeah, man, you guys wenttogether. We ended up being there together,
and we just kicked it. Man. We were no there's a picture
of us in our socks. Idon't think we were supposed to be in

(48:31):
there, but I was like,dude, what is this rope in front
of this place? For literally itwas like Obama's first and first time and
it was like his first year.I think all this it was like early
Obama administration, and so you know, later it became normal that hip hop
artists and people would be in theWhite House, but this was like the

(48:51):
first event that they had done,and it was like a spoken word and
poetry event. So we weren't accustomedto being invited to the White House.
We didn't even see it from otherpeople. We just so we went.
When I got that that invite,I was like, this has got to
be like a joke. There's noway I'm going to the White House.
This is crazy. And then whenI went there was big boy, hey

(49:12):
man, let me take you likeI did the same. We ran down
the hall to each other in slowmotion. You know what I'm saying.
I remember the same. And whenI got the invitation, I was like
there was like, yeah, youknow, they want you to come to
the White House. And I waslike, and I'm looking at it and
like you yeah, you've never beeninvited, so down that I get that.

(49:35):
Then they said, oh yeah,they're going to do this. They're
going to do this, They're goingto do a background check. I was
like, I'll never be in that, mom, you know what I'm saying.
I was like, if they're doinga background check, but yeah,
my background check cleared, cleared,and and I made it in and and
and not knowing just I mean,that's history in there. Then once and
then I got it. We wastaking pictures, like I said, our
socks. We were in the librarywith photos like oh yeah, dude.

(49:57):
We were just acting, writting downat tables we probably supposed to be at,
pointing up at artwork. We didn'tknow what it was we were really
running around and it was bad.It was bad. That's probably that's probably
why I never went back. Don'twant to go back at certainly last you
never went back. I never wentback. Have you been to the Rock
Nation brunch about six times? Yeah, I've never been to the brunch?
Why? I don't know? Haveyou never been invited? That's not I

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think that's it. Do you wantto go? Oh? Man? And
I remember one year, do youwant to? So why haven't you gone?
You just have to call somebody.Oh yeah, yeah, that called
somebody and they was like, oh, the list is closed, okay to
me, and you go together.Like next year, I'm gonna have to
get in with somebody. Let's gotogether. Because that is an oversight.
There's no reason you're not asked becauseyou know now, I asked have you

(50:44):
been to the brunch? I rememberas Lama, I said have you been
to the brunch? And she waslike yeah, And I was like,
man, I've never been to this. That's tachy. That was like low
key tax sorry, but no,it was real. It wasn't like you
really said that out a spite.That's just the way I took it.
No, no, no worry Iwas just confirming her story that she was.
In fact, I kind of figuredtoo. But if you want to

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say yeah, sorry, you haveto stop because there's no way that you
can't go to the brunch. Idon't believe you. Okay, yeah,
I've never been. But are youasking like day of at noon? No?
I asked like about day of tenthirty. No, no, no,
no, you can't. I don'task. I've never been there.

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I've never been invited, and Iremember one time day yeah. And now
now that me and Ll spoke aboutit and Marlin, I don't think I'm
ever gonna be invited now because thesedudes are saying too much like I want
to go, you know what I'msaying, Like now now I got to
say, I'm gonna have to besomebody's plus one, and then I want
to tell you straight up, theyprobably really don't want me in there,

(51:50):
so plus one, I'm hoping youget in. I think that you have.
Just did you think I hurt myselfjust now? Not at all?
And Martine is I'm just saying Iwouldn't feel a certain way if you just
turn around like being sorry, Igot you know, and then I have
to be as a real one.I have to say, and you understand
you before we take supper cars.Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

(52:13):
I can myself back. All Iwant you to do it Just throw me
a deviled egg over the wall.Just toss toss something over, you know.
But but yeah, figure this out. Mark my words. Yeah,
man, mark my words. Youknow you know what I mean. I've
been to the Brunch and Space thesame amount of times. Yes, zero,

(52:36):
absolutely, Yeah, we're gonna figurethis out. Yea, We're gonna
figure it out because it's I justwant to. I'm gonna if I get
in there, I'm just gonna takea picture. I'm just gonna be in
there, like look how we madeit. I'm gonna be in the I'm
not even act out. I'm gonnawear something pass and like what's when we
go just eat something before? BecauseI never have eaten nothing. That's when

(52:57):
everybody says that I don't never eatnothing. Because me and Marlon Wayne he
hasn't been invited either. Were gonnado like a thing called I lunch,
and the lunch is gonna be Iyou know it's not It's not like yo,
yea, I should do like theday of the brunch, you should
do the not Rocknation. Yeah,man, that's what. Then you can
do you Marlin and ll like youcan do an events. Yeah man,
And I think you're gonna stop rightthere. I think I think that'd be

(53:17):
all the star status where because everybodyelse would be at the runch. Yeah,
Snoop never been to the brunch,right, Snoop would be there.
I mean that's a funny. Andthen after that it'd be like like Jose
Lucretia from Compton. Moses would come, you know what I'm saying, and
not the Moses, the Moses thatwork with us in production. There's plenty
of people. Yeah, yeah,yeah, it would be a good time.

(53:38):
I won't stop by after the brunch. I'll take that everybody everybody tripping
like she laughing, like no illbecause all I mean because it would be
probably more fun because you guys,oh yeah yeah, like so I would
finish my day there. Yeah yeah, because they're doing the brunch, we're

(53:59):
doing the lunch. Yeah, don'teven like brunch food. The food is
so much better. Come on withus, put your name on it.
Then she said, I did sayI'll stop by after, you know,
and that's not even a guarantee,you know. Yeah, so you don't
even eat there. Hut. Idon't think I've ever want to go to

(54:21):
No, But I just had acouple of So what do y'all do at
the brunch? Y'all stand around talking. Yeah, it's like a lot of
photos and everybody waits to take aphoto. Everybody wants to catch the moment
where Jay's laughing and then they're alllaughing to take that. Once they take
that photo, it's like who couldmake him laugh the hardest? And then
they take the photo and then theymove out of the way. So how

(54:43):
did you get How does one getinvited? Does it come in a letter?
Do you get an email? UsuallyI think it's an email. I
think it's an email, but Ihave seen a hard copy. I always
asking him because I've had the samesince AOL. I still got that.
So people can't say that they havean a O L. I I still
have an AOL, and then Ihave my Gmail, and all of them
are pretty much the same. It'sjust at AOL, at gmails, at

(55:07):
BlackBerry dot met Yeah I do,but it's I don't know where to find
them. Yeah, I've seen getmy two way information all that you know,
beam me everything man, So nothingtwenty twenty four, I feel it
though, No, it's coming twentytwenty four, twenty five. Let's say
we're going to do the book launchye with the brock Nation brunch. Yep,
we're gonna do like a whole pressrun right, We're gonna sell your
books. Maybe bring some books tothe brunch. Yeah, man, what

(55:29):
the old books? No, thenew books. I wanted to sell the
old but I need this garage test. You have to let that go.
Movie. But what do I dowith all these books in my garage?
Though? Well, it's onward andupward because everybody in here we have any
comings. You got six now?Yeah, because I he all happy anniversary,
happy birthday. And I just keepsigning in these books because my wife

(55:49):
be like, baby, please getthese books out the garage. You know
what I'm saying. My son andhis closet. He like, dad,
you know my daughter under her bed. Just burn them. You can't sell
them a line. You can't dolike a lot. I tried that,
but then even the returns. Yeah, man, like good lord, have
mercy, man like yeah, Iget some people that man, I got

(56:13):
your book. I'll be like,thank you, Like I know I can
pull up in my in my phoneright now, the people that bought my
book, you got four minutes,Angie. It is a pleasure to have
you in the neighborhood. I'm sopleased a chance to catch up. You
know what I'm saying. I knowyou can't wait to see where you have
going on next because we talked aboutI always want to interview you. Why

(56:34):
don't you come to my show whenyou come to New York, New York
have been it was the last timeyou wore in New York about a week
ago? No, stop for real? Really about all right? Next time?
Youse. I wasn't there a weekago. I just wanted to see
it. You lie too much,that's the problem. No, there's a
difference between line around. You know. I don't even want to say around
because that sounds sounds like I'm notdoing by my wife. There's a difference

(56:55):
between lying and joking. Okay,yeah, yeah, I'm just playing with
you. Go ahead on this guy. We know that pretty much. You
know. My real ain't not bigboy, It's not he dude, dude.
It feels like I could just likeI could feel these layers off with
you. I don't even know whoyou are, right, but you will

(57:15):
when we sit down at the brunch, I'll tell you about myself and when
I read your new upcoming book.Yes, it's going to be a New
York Times and LA Times bestseller.Do you have a title for it?
Working title? What is it?It's a working title? Is that the
name of it? No, youcan't say it. I can't say it
right now. I even said toomuch just talking about it. Okay,

(57:37):
yeah, you should call it.This is the one. This is the
book. Did somebody tell you that? Because that is That's it. It's
called this is the one. Writethat down for me. Yeah, never
mind the last one. Yeah,my book is gonna be called this is

(57:59):
it. I want to take thatwhole Michael Jackson thing. I won't tell
him. I'm gonna say, heyman, this is it. Like if
y'all don't buy this one, youknow what I'm saying, And I'm gonna
be on the cover desperate though,I'm this look like I should call it.
Please buy this book byse buy Pleasebuy this book. It gives it's

(58:21):
giving. Desperate. You don't wantto do that. I am this is
a sign for you to buy thisbook. Yeah, man, yeah,
buy this book or die. Ifyou don't buy this, you'll have bad
buy this book, or the doggets it. But well, thank you
for coming into the neighborhood. Woulddefinitely be greater later man. And like

(58:43):
I said, you are always greatenergy, you know, even how you
kept bringing up the bookselves. Iwould like you don't feel bad later time
because it comes up every time andthen I feel bad every time. But
you're gonna feel worse in the carbecause the day you really gave it to
me. But you bring it up, you do. It's like you want
it. It's like you. It'slike you want it, like I like
pain. Yeah a little bit.Are you thinking of my credit card statement?

(59:07):
Like you like it? You bringit up, you want me to
do it. I can tell youthe truth of I didn't know we had
the conversation. I forget a lot. Yeah, and I still think that
when you said limb, I thinkyou said what did you say? You
said leg? I think you said, let's I'll rewind all right? You
want to bet on it? Yes? Okay, what do you want to
bet? I bet your Rock Nationbrunch ticket. So we're bet on a

(59:30):
handshake. There it is Angie Martinez. Y'all, ad youre finding a big
boy from Big Boys Neighborhood on iHeartRadio. Boy. There's another in case
you missed it, moment with us. The legendary Doctor Drake and w was

(59:51):
formed just out of friends that gottogether and decided to make a group.
You know, I wanted to getaway from the group. I was in
the recon Crew at the time,you know what I mean. So I
was true really trying to find away to get away. I didn't have
enough money to go in and record. I had a group that I was
ready to record on I didn't haveenough money. So Bam, Man comes
Easy, you know what I mean. I knew he had money. He
was out hustling. It's like listen, man, once you come and throw

(01:00:12):
some money into this music thing,you know what I mean. So me
and him got together and the songthat was written for this group just happened
to be Boys in the Hood,Yes, sir, They were from New
Jersey, New York or something likethat. They decided they didn't want to
do it, so I talked Easyinto doing the record. Man and Easy
didn't want to be a rapper adfor he did not want to be a
rapper. It took me a coupleof hours to talk him into getting order
mic and just trying it. Thankyou for listening. It is you're finding

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a big boy big boy's neighborhood.You could catch more of us right here
on iheartradios. The boys in thehood are always hard. You know.
I'm talking to Drash real hell youGod, knowing nothing in life but to
be legit. Don't quote me,boy, I ain't said nothing yet.