THE BIG INTERVIEW - Logic Talks “Vinyl Days” Album, Wiz Khalifa Tour, Eminem, Crypto, Social Media, and More

THE BIG INTERVIEW - Logic Talks “Vinyl Days” Album, Wiz Khalifa Tour, Eminem, Crypto, Social Media, and More

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome to another episode Oh The Big, The Big Interview Podcast. I really
believe this. As a musician,I've checked every from the money, the
fame, being recognized, selling outarenas around the world, like doing all,
I've done it all. I evenwent to the Grammys. I felt
like I won that night, andthey're like, win a Grammy, right,

(00:23):
but that night was mine. Igot to perform. It was really
amazing. So that I think isthe only thing on my list of things
I wanted was a Grammy. Andnow I'm like, I don't even give
it, damn right, like forreal, you know what I mean.
So I look at cats like him, and I'm like, man, he's
just doing him and that that's whatinspires me, you know what I mean.
Like I didn't even know he knewwho I was a couple of years

(00:43):
ago, and he like shot meout on a record and I was like,
oh my god, this is amazing. And then the next thing,
you know, like we're on asong together. He's one of the illest
dudes. He's so nice and whenI met him, I was all nervous.
I was like, yo, bigboy, neighborhood. Hello, back
in the neighborhood. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the neighborhood. Bro,
thank you very much. It's beenPeople say it's been a while,

(01:03):
but it's been a while. It'sbeen a while. Yeah, man,
what have you been doing during thepandemic and everything. I've been growing as
a human being, and I've beenbeing a dad and I've been doing the
best I can to be a goodhusband, yes, sir, and making
fire music. Yeah. Man,Hey man, it's it's a lot to
do right now. Do you rememberlogic when at one point when it felt

(01:26):
like it was all about you?Yeah? Yeah. And it's funny because
then when you have a child,like they show you like okay, so
for so long because even before this, we were talking about like twenties and
how you kind of find yourself inyour twenties and in your thirties you really
feel comfortable. And I'm like feelingthat and uh, obviously, like I
ain't perfect, but I used tobe scared, like just so scared to

(01:49):
do like press. I mean especially, that's why it's like you're one of
the very few realist ones that havealways been real and never try to be
on some clickbait or this or that. Or or no matter how big the
artists, whether it's yeay or thisperson or that person, you always ask
honest questions and talk. And that'sanother thing I love is like that you
talk like you ain't out here raisingyour voice like all these other people trying
to antagonize stuff. And I've alwaysreally appreciated that. But for me being

(02:15):
logic, you know what I mean, Like every time I would step in
an interview, I always was likefelt like I was on guard. And
now I'm like, I don't giveit right because of that baby. Really
yeah, because the baby shows you. It goes like his health and his
mama's health. That's it. Like, bro, I'm black. I did
it. Hey man. It showsthe importance as well, you know,

(02:36):
because I remember and you got tothink and everything is in stages too logic.
I remember being in school and Iwould get called up to the print
support something like that, and thatwas big at the time. It was
like you had a panic switch,and now you don't have certain panic switches.
Like even when you say you wouldcome and do an interview, it
was like, Okay, what arethey going to say? What they're gonna
do this? That panic switch isgone. Or it's down and it'll be

(03:00):
down. You realize what real situationsare too, and also that you're in
control of yourself. Right, I'mnot in control of questions that might be
asking me. But I also don'thave to answer questions I don't want to.
But when you're young, you're like, I got it. I gotta
put all this. So yeah,now it's just like I wake up,
like my panic switch is trying tofigure out which cry my son is crying

(03:21):
from the other room. Is thatlike he just split his cranium open cry
or is it like he wants hiscar or he wants some em And M's
like, that's what I'm thinking about. I'm like recording raps and I'm like
yeah, yeah, and then he'sin the background and I'm like, damn,
okay, let me wait until he'syeah. Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Hold on, yeah, just tryingto make fire. Yeah, to

(03:43):
stop on YouTube so you can keepwatching. Yeah, oh yo, cocomelan,
he's on that. He's on Blippy. Y'all heard Blippy the guy.
Yeah, Blippy is like the newmister Rogers. But yeah, and then
Blippy followed me on the gram.That's probably when your kids gonna know your
fame. Yeah, so I waslike, yo, what's up. His
name is Steven. He's actually reallynice. They don't quite understand you yet,

(04:04):
no, but it'd be one thingwhen your kids get it. Yo'.
He's gonna come to my show becauseme and Wizard going on tour.
Yeah. Man, yeah, he'scoming to my show in La at so
Fi And I'm so excited and I'mlike nervous because I don't know how he's
going to react, right, andhow how old is he? He's two
years four months and I believe Isaid thirteen days. Wow. Yeah a

(04:27):
man so new album? Yeah,what's going? And you know it's a
tribute, like you don't never hearlike oh he's in record mode or you
know it's coming, it's coming.It seemed like it just is arriving without
all the hoop lot, you knowwhat I'm saying. Yeah, I just
I love I'm like five albums aheadman, right, I'm always working on
stuff and having fun and whether it'slike more pop stuff or trap or boom

(04:49):
bap like this album is. Andthat's what I wanted because it's my last
album on deaf Jam. So youknow, I've been I've been on deaf
Jam for over a decade now,and I'm excited to be independent. But
I'm very grateful for everybody in thebuilding that was there to help me,
you know what I mean, Becauseit's like musical chairs, so it's like
a lot of Sometimes you fall inlove with somebody who's working with you and

(05:10):
really helping you achieve your goals,and then boom, they're over at another
label. So that's difficult because Iknow at one point I did see something
where you, you know, youdid kind of talk out. Oh I
went oh, yeah, I wentoff. I went off. I think
I've always kind of like, I'mnot really an out, super outspoken person
when it comes to the internet becauseI don't really like drama, you know.
I mean, my whole thing ispeace, love and positivity. But

(05:33):
yeah, I was upset over howthey kind of had dropped the ball with
my first release. And guess what, ever, since I posted that video,
they been on it. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And you know
what's crazy about that, man,is I couldn't imagine like with radio,
I get up, I get achance to do radio every day. You
know what I'm saying, It's like, Okay, I could do it.
I could do it tomorrow, I'vedone it today. I couldn't imagine doing

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something and being so passionate about itand then taking it to somebody else and
saying, Okay, now it's yourturn to do what you do with it.
And sometimes that doesn't match up witheither there's a single that you feel.
I don't know if they still canpick the it's not creatively, it's
not that. It's just more aboutlike delivering, but for the most part,
they do deliver. You know whatI'm saying. I was just that's

(06:18):
me upset, and I think Ihave every right to be upset as an
artist because this is my livelihood,this is my everything. But also like
I'm not out here like f themand blah right, I'm not being ignorant
with it. It's just I wasjust like, yo, we this ain't
happening, and they were like cool. And you know what I'm saying.
I got people like the homies heretoday, you know, from Deaf Jam,
and I really do love I meanthe out the outro is like not

(06:40):
to go too crazy, but it'sten minutes of me shouting out by name
every single person over the last decadethat has been there for me in the
building. Damn. Yeah. Soit's like, I do love sitting in
the building because I definitely about toask am I in there? When you
sit in the building. I waslike, no, I don't think I'm
in the deaf jam, but Idid. I did shout you out on
an album. I think it mightbe The Madly About Him that's not out

(07:01):
yet, but I think I've shoutedyou out before. Okay, okay,
either either I'm rewriting history. No, I'm always shouting you out. No,
I'll tell you that I'm worthy of. One of the one of the
biggest lessons I ever learned in myentire life was from you and we I
was talking to you on the phoneand I loved it. Every once in
a while we'll just jump on thephone and catch up or something. Pictures,
yeah, kids and whatever, andand I was this was a couple

(07:26):
of years ago, and this waslike a big transition moment for me.
I was probably like twenty nine oryeah, I was like twenty nine,
and and I was like, man, feeling like I got to be this
or that. Da da da da, And you were like, you know
what this industry we're in is anindustry of enough, Yeah, good enough,
good enough, this enough, thatenough, black enough da da da,
And he and big boys say youare enough. It could make me

(07:49):
cry, right because it's like no, it was dope, yeah no,
But but he was like you areenough, you are enough, Bobby.
Yeah. I was like, dangnAnd we gotta figure that out too.
And sometimes people throw those on you. You know, we have our own
enoughs, and then you get theseother ones that's thrown on you, bro,
And I just get to a pointwhere I'm like, Okay, I

(08:11):
can't continue to try to super serveall these soul checklists. Yeah you know
what I'm saying, and it's notup to me. But it takes a
while. It takes a while beforeyou, you know, before you realize
that there could be hurt that's associatedwith it as well. I mean,
that's most of the sorry to interrupt, No, that's just most of the
negativity on the internet. Because alsothe Internet is completely different than it was

(08:31):
ten years ago. I think itwas a nicer place ten years yeah,
oh yeah. And now it's likepeople be using like words like I don't
know, like they be talking aboutalbums that they have, like like can
you say radio, they'd be like, oh, this is this is so,
this is mid or this is that. I'm like, damn, Like
how you talk to your mama,like when she makes you eggs? Hey

(08:52):
mom, this is is that howyou're talking to your mom? Come on?
And you know what's crazy about that? Man? If I'll see certain
things and I'm just like, youknow, unhappy. You know what I'm
saying. Yeah, for sure,that's unhappy. You want to make you
unhappy company, But it's funny.Yes, it's funny though, because like
those people will get told that oryou see somebody say that to them on

(09:13):
a comment or we say it now, and they'll be like, no,
that's not even it. And it'sjust like damn, bro, Like you're
so can't look in the mirror,because I've been like, yeah, I've
like even made music because I wantedto be loved or tried to be perceived
as I mean, I've always beenlike a biracial nerd who loves Rube's cubes
as you know, yes, sir, And but even still there was a

(09:33):
part of me that maybe wanted totry to make certain songs or sound a
certain way to be accepted by Like, that's what's really wild to me.
It's like, why why young peoplecare so much to be accepted? Like
you can't stand stand out and fitin at the same time, you know
what I'm saying. And I alwaysstood out, but not even because I

(09:54):
wanted to, Like I was tryingto stand like be right right, but
by Alan wat philosopher says, anythingyou can be interested in, you'll find
others who are. And when Irealized, like, yeah, I like
making albums about space, and Ilike, you know, anime and cartoons
and like all this other stuff,I didn't realize that there was a whole
world of people out there that feltlike they didn't have that voice in music

(10:18):
or in hip hop. And whenI realized that, I was like wow,
Also, the like what the helleven is hip hop? I know
what hip hop is. I'm hiphop, like you know, but I
think this term is used so looselywhen it's like even just talking about media
surrounding hip hop, you know,because I used to want to be loved
by you know, cats, whetherit was personalities on the radio or this

(10:39):
or that or da da da,When I was almost ignoring, not ignoring,
but like, yeah, the Riza'sright, and the Black Thoughts and
the Chuck D's and all these amazingartists who like mess with me. I've
shaken their hands and they're like,keep going, brother, They're like,
you know, And yet I'd beover here focused thinking about trying to be
on some whatever, you know whatI mean, right, And now that

(11:01):
I'm here, I'm like, it'sso dope to be able to be myself.
And now whenever I do go docertain press, there's a lot of
press. I don't do that right, And I can understand that too,
because it's like it ain't it's nota battle field, Like what am I
doing? You know what I'm saying. I'm not coming in like this is
same, Like it shouldn't be likethat, you know. So I come
in and that doesn't mean I'm gonnago places where somebody's gonna kss myss.

(11:24):
Like I said, you keep itreal. Whether you agree with what somebody's
saying or doing or not, youstill have the respect and the wisdom as
a man to have a conversation sir. A lot of other people like to
rile up and get you all inyour feelings, and this and that for
some headline, you know, tolast for thirty seconds in the middle of
a day on a hashtag. I'mnot with that. Yeah, And you

(11:45):
can feel it as well, youknow what I'm saying. You can feel
it where and I just say,man, you know, and it's not
about all he got on and nowhe don't want to do like, Man,
just don't show up. Like Igot to a point as well where
I'm just like, man, I'mnot gonna do that. And it's not
about you know, Oh he's different, He's just I'm just like, man,
I gotta protect my energy as well, you know. And that's the
same thing when it comes to socialmedia everything. I'm like, dude,

(12:07):
I gotta protect my energy. I'mnot on social media. I haven't been
on social media in a couple ofyears now. Every once in a while
I peek in and just like postsomething funny or something because I want the
fans to know it's directly from me, right. But I used to be
on Twitter and all that all day, all the time, and I just
don't think a human being, humansin general, should be processing that much
information, whether it's you know,and unneeded and unnecessary too. It's wild.

(12:31):
It's how long did it take youto realize that social media had that
effect on you? Like once yougot off in like the break Well,
it's funny enough. I actually likebroke down crying in bed like a year
ago when I was like I wastalking to my wife because for me,
it was like a loss. Itwas like losing like a friend. Because

(12:52):
it's how I blew up. It'show I connected directly to my fans constantly,
like literally talking to them. Andthen as it became this cesspool of
negativity, it's like like literally whenI go and I'm like peace loving,
positivity, and the first the firstcomment is I hope your baby dies.
Man, have you ever seen anythinglike no, That's what I'm saying.
Yes, yeah, no, it'swild. So then you see that and

(13:15):
you think about that and it's like, yeah, you know your baby and
your wife's ugly as hell, andda da da and this and it's you.
I was just like, I can'tread this anymore. And the thing
that was so difficult for me,that's not where the tears came from.
The tears came from tam this relationship, in this connection that I've had with
my fans directly is over now,Like, I can't do that anymore.
But for every tweet you don't seefrom me, for every post you don't

(13:39):
see from me on Instagram, that'sa lyric in an album. So go
peep the auby was going on onMy life, Final Days, Final Days.
Why the title love it love thatyou're asking me this? Yeah?
Okay. So did you ever meetDyla? Yes? Okay, yeah,
yeah, because you know he's messingwith Fireside. Yes. So there's this
cat named Egon, and Egon introducedme to mad Lib. And Egon has

(14:01):
a whole plethora of so he hasa record label called Now Again where he
re releases old music from the sixtiesand seventies, like afrofunk and like really
dope stuff. And we did thewhole album in twelve days. Damn wow.
Yeah, it's crazy. That's awhole story that I'll tell you when
we ain't on the radio. Sobut anyway, so we did the whole
We did the whole thing in twelvedays, and I called Egon and was

(14:22):
like, Hey, how many vinylcan you ship me? And he ships
me overnight one hundred and fifty vinyland I go from the Vinyl. And
this is because I love Dyla andI've been so into Diyla and Slum Village,
And so I took the vinyl,put it on my record player,
ran that through my ableton and myVintage NPC sixty and then just literally made

(14:43):
beats, wrote raps, didn't overthinkit, had fun, put it on
wax, next, next, next, and we got thirty tracks on the
album. Damn Vinyl Days, VinylDays, Man, where does that come
from? As far? And thereason? And that question means like at
your age, vinyl wasn't as important, you know, and then also at
your age, you know, itwasn't about the forefathers. That was you

(15:05):
know, sometimes it wasn't about whocame before. It's about me and what
I'm doing right now, you know. And your name names like you know,
like Dyla, like your name names. I'm like, damn, this
dude is written. When people sayhip hop, that's another thing where I'm
like, man, some people don'tknow the history, but you you know
the history and you pay homage toit. So when I saw Vinyl Days,

(15:26):
I was like, there's a meaningfor sure behind this, you know
what I'm saying, Like there's somepeople that don't even know, no disrespect
to them because they're younger. Theydon't even know what vinyl is, you
know what I'm saying. So foryou to take some vinyl and hear it
and touching it and hear the soundsof it, you know. And I'm
a guy man, I grew upDJing and everything, and I love vinyl.

(15:46):
I would even take the vinyl andyou and you'll hold it a certain
way, and you could see whensome people in the ascetate they would scratch
messages go through your vinyl and lookat that. Especially a lot of hip
hop albums. You'll hold it andyou'll look in that smooth before for the
groove starting, and it'll have likea message or something in there. Bro,
that's dope. Yeah, take thatand run with it, not now
though I need. Yeah, Ithink it's having the due diligence to understand

(16:10):
where you come from. You know. It's like when you ask the Riza
why why did the Wu Tang clando a record with Logic that y'all could
have done a record with anybody.Why Logic? And he was like,
because he's a mixed brother of theculture who understands and has done his due
diligence and taking the time to respectthis art and this craft. And I'm
a student. I'm still learning everyday, Doug. Like, honestly,
you know who I'm just now gettinginto is a brand Nubian. Yeah,

(16:33):
you know what I'm saying. ButI'm excited because there's like things I've I've
held off on because I still I'mjust a student. So whether it's hip
hop or it's other genres as well. You know, like I haven't fully
dived into the Beatles yet. I'venever really listened to the Beatles because I'm
waiting, like until I'm ready todo that, right, take your time
with it. Yeah, man,But that's that's how it is. It's
not a contest. It's not athis and of that. And I think

(16:56):
if you're just an open minded personand you're a student and you're ready to
to learn, then that's dope.I think this younger generation, it's cool.
It's like, yeah, do yourthings like whatever. I'm not mad
at you know, by any means. But when I meet young people,
you know, especially like in theirtwenty or even my assistant Stacy, I
just I just I found this dudeon TikTok and now he's my assistant.

(17:18):
He's one of the illest musicians I'veever heard, and he makes like indie
rock music and stuff. But he'sobsessed with rap, right, and he
looks like a stoner. He lookslike he's like popped out of days and
confused. It's wild, but anyway, like him, he'll make references on
certain rap stuff that I'm like,how do you even know that? Bro?
That's like so crazy to me.But that becomes a student of everything

(17:41):
too, you know what I'm saying. I think that becomes a student of
everything. Man, the tour will'sKhalei for logic, Yes, alrighty,
Now I'm really how does that cometogether? Well? Our managers was his
people hit my people and was like, hey, y'all want to go on
tour together? And because I wasgoing to go out alone, right,
And that's why I asked the questiontoo, because both of you are headliners,

(18:04):
yep, and both of you cango out and do something on your
own. And I was just wonderingwhen we first announced it as well,
I was like, man, that'sa hell of a tour with two guys
that don't so called need each other. Yep. So it comes together.
The people hit the people, andit made sense. Yeah, it made
sense because it's just like, whynot, why not do something that's fun?

(18:25):
And I'm so used to having allthis pressure on my shoulders. It's
kind of cool to really be ableto share this. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. I'm just alittle nervous because I don't know how to
tell wiz. I don't smoke weedanymore? Right, So how long has
it been since my son was born? And I didn't want to hear him
crying in the tenth dimension of spaceand time? Right right? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Andso I say I was like, let

(18:47):
me chill on that. Damn,that's crazy, dude. Now, when
how long did you smoke? SoI didn't smoke or drink till I was
like twenty seven twenty eight? Andwhy did you pick it up? Because
I broke the curse? You knowwhat I mean? My parents are drug
addicts and alcoholics and everybody in myfamily. So I was like, hey,

(19:07):
I made it. I'm here.I think I have a good grasp
on this. I want to Iwant to use this to enhance, not
escape, and enjoy myself and uhand I did that and it and it's
dope. And when you use itas a soul called enhancement, did it
influence your music? Did it?You know? Not really? I mean
kind kind of you know, butfor the most part, it just made

(19:29):
movies look really tight and it letme kind of chill in the backyard.
But my relationship with Weed was likeI always was like on the brink of
a panic attack. Oh yeah,like I was. I was in the
best place and I was like,oh, that's my heart, like for
real, that's me, man.Yeah, but that's why I love Scotch.
I'm Scotch am I tripping tripping heyman. So you leave it alone,

(19:55):
And of course you say because ofthe sun, But do you miss
anything like the way it did makeyou feel when it was watching a movie
Waite, Yeah, no, becauseyou had to give up something to you
know what I've learned as I've gottenolder, everything with me was so finite
when you know, when I wascoming up, like nah, this is
the album just the way that Iwas gonna be. I'm gonna do this,
and then I'm gonna do that andthat's and and now I'm just like
I just don't smoke weed right now, right right right, I could wake

(20:18):
up tomorrow. Yeah you know whatI'm saying that, Bruce Lee, Yeah
yeah, all right, am Ismoking today? It being plus man,
And it's not about people, butpeople hold you to things too. Yeah,
and it's like, you know,how about you hold Yeah, how
about that? I thought she wasgonna start eating right on Monday, you
know, like so you know,sometimes even crazy to even say certain things.
My therapist, she she told me, she was like, you know,

(20:41):
you're not You're really hard on yourself, you know. And I'm like,
that's why because a lot of peoplethey even if you like I'd be
like, you know what, Damn, I'm gonna drink less, so I'm
gonna smoke less, or I'm gonnado this, or I'm gonna work out
more. I'ma blah blah blah.Enough enough enough, And she was like,
look, man, just just tryto find balance. Stop trying to
beat you. Because I'm an extremist. Like you remember when I was off

(21:02):
swollen, everybody thought I was onpeople thought I was on steroids. Fam
No, I was just that's asandwich in five hundred push ups out the
bed, like Bruce Wayne, Iswear on God. Yeah, but you
know what that really was. Thatwas like insecurity. That was like me
feeling like a little skinny, undeservingwhatever, and I'm like, I'm gonna

(21:26):
show the world, like you're gonnashow the world what they ain't about to
pop out of your forehead? Didyou have all or nothing kind of thing?
Like yeah, I mean I stilldo. It's like all or nothing
because best father, I can hearall or nothing, be the best husband,
I can be the best rapper andmusician, and you know, mentor
love or friend that I possibly can. So I think sometimes that extremist mentality,

(21:52):
uh is I'm not going to sayit's in the wrong places. It's
just like do I need to beyoked? Or do I need to have
a healthy heart? You know I'msaying, does my wife you know,
want want this right? Yes?You know what I mean. So I'm
good. Hey man, dude,do you feel like sometimes like people watch

(22:12):
other people too much? And bythat again, you know, like when
was the last time you got upand got on your device and went to
somebody page and told them that theirjacket was ugly? Never you know what
I'm saying, never done nothing,and it's crazy that that's what some people
do. Is their main thing isto get up and hurt you. Like

(22:33):
Vinyl Days the album. Right,it's not out yet, but the album's
already whack. Yeah, you're right, like, yeah, it's already tight.
There's this mentality now, yeah,we're just people just don't all right.
So literally people go into things lookingfor the negative. They just did,

(22:56):
bro, But it's because our societyhas pushed the negatives to get the
headlin. Oh yeah, and it'sa wild thing. But I will say,
you know, I'm just happy thatI'm tapped out and that I've accepted
like not everybody's gonna love you,bro, It's that simple. How do
you learn that though a lot ofwell I can't cuss, but getting crapped
on because then you just realized,like, oh man, like you just

(23:18):
gotta do you you know. Iremember I had had you know, personalities
and whatever a couple of years agotalking about me saying I was the worst
rapper ever. And then I'm outliterally like read that in my green room
and then walk out on Madison SquareGarden and it's sold out and everybody's singing
my bro and I'm just like butI was like depressed. Yeah, so

(23:38):
I'm like on stage like, man, you suck. Yeah. Man,
it's crazy what that can do toyou though. Yeah, and the validation
of you know, it could bethree hundred and it's not like you're looking
for three hundred, like, man, you're the best. You changed my
life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you saved my life because you've heard
that in your career, but youalso be that one. We're's like,
ah, let me ask you.Yeah, all right, you you walk

(24:02):
out as a human being, youknow, a thousand years ago on an
open you're coming out of the jungleto an open plane. All right.
You're not gonna walk out of thatjungle and look at the sky and go
wow, it's beautiful because it's liketen lions over there. So you're looking
for that lion so that you canget past that to then be safe.

(24:26):
And I think that mentality, thatway of thinking is how we now still
view social media. We're looking forthe lions. So even though there's just
a love and beauty are there,We're still looking for that because it's like
innate, it's like in us.And then I'm like, well, I'm
just not going to go on theplane. I'm gonna be chilling in this
tree over here, like enjoying thesky from there off social media. So

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when I took that out of theequation, that's what really made me a
lot happier. And it's not thatI'm ignoring it. It's not that I'm
pretending that it doesn't exist, orI don't acknowledge that somebody might not like
this album or not whatever. It'sjust the decision that I've personally made for
my well being. I mean,even the album Vinyl Days, Yo,
it's like the most boom back NPC, Dila Riza no Id vibes, Like,

(25:12):
that's what it is. If Iwanted to make a bunch of money
and do I'd have just done anotherBobby Tarantino and got yoked again and ate
a bunch of sandwiches, you knowwhat I'm saying. But that's not what
I wanted to do. I wantedto go out on the best note I
could with Death Jam and give DeathJam an album that I think is Death

(25:33):
Jam is hip hop, right,you know what I'm saying. Features on
Vinyl Days, oh man, Igot game, Russ Amen and see just
when you say game in Russ allright, Riza just those names a Z
those four names, MASc flex thatfive names represent so much and some connected,

(25:56):
some different different errors, different waysthat that that they flow, different
meanings and backbones like that right there. That's a that's a life album as
well, you know. And whenI say a life album is some days
we're here, some days with youknow, some days with the best,
some days we're some moments we're contradictive, those kind of things. And Game,

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to me is one of the tightestpeople on his pen. He's insane
and people they'll mention Game lyrically,but they don't understand what this dude really
dues. The Game is one ofthe greatest rappers all time, and he's
a gentleman and he's on a ship. Don't test him. Yeah, man,
you know what I mean. Buthe's he's he's he's amazing. And

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Whiz is on the album as well. Whis on the album. Before y'all
announced the tour, No, buthe was supposed to be so we I
had always been like, Oh,where's is gonna? This is gonna And
then we announced the tour and Iwas like, oh, well, now
you gotta do it. Do youhear who you want on a song,
because it's obvious it's not about namesand you know, and it's not about
I gotta get such and such thatthey hot. They're the assist leader right

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now, you know. So youyou you thinking way more and not way
more as at that time, Ifelt I would have went for Harlow right
and I know Jack, so it'slike i'd have been like, hey,
what's up a little bro? Yeah, you're killing it right now? Can
I get a verse at all?But now he called me talking about Jack.
Harlow was at my house the weekbefore What's Popping came out, and

(27:22):
he was at my studio in Calabasas, and I was like, buckle up,
kid, Yeah, I was like, you about to blow up?
And then I talked to his friendon on uh and we'll get back to
the futures. My bad. ButI talked to his friend on the phone,
and I actually don't remember this conversation. I was pretty drunk, right,
and it was like but he waslike, but big, you don't
know what either, try to makeit up. No, I know what
I said, but I just don'tremember how it went down. But basically,
I guess I told the kid.I was like, yeah, man,

(27:44):
tickets anytime, anywhere, blah blahblah. So then Jack three years
later hits me up and he's like, hey, man, uh remember my
best friend from back home. Yousaid he could get some tickets? Can
he come to this show? AndI was like, of course, yeah,
no problem. He's like that's whatI'm saying, that's what yeah.
Can you imagine you want to offerhim any more with me? But nah?
Yeah. So I was like ofcourse, and Jack was like,

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Yo, anything, whatever you need. And I'm like, in the middle
of Vinyl days, He's like,whatever you need, anytime whatever. He's
like, bro, And I waslike, your friendship, your happiness,
that's all I want. That's dope. But I would have definitely asked for
you know what, man, I'mnot you. But he's a good dude.
But that's what I mean when itcomes to features, like I got
this cat named Langston Bristol who's reallydope from Detroit or just outside Detroit.

(28:29):
U. I found him on TikTok. There's this this uh yeah, this
kid that I that I when hewas eleven years old. I picked him
out of the crowd and he cameon stage and wrapped my whole gang related
uh and it's crazy it did,and he was wrapping it all get down
to later, I hit you withthe ready to get better, stay down
straight shots and yeah at eleven andhe was like, mom, can I

(28:51):
say the bad words and all this? And he like, but well,
actually I brought him up twice,two separate times by accident. I didn't
know. Long story short, Isigned. I signed him. He's a
producer. He's fourteen now. Thisis his first major placement. Was his
name again. His name is JRBJoey Bella. And then there's this incredible
queen. Her name is Nezi MamaDuke came to America when she was fifteen

(29:14):
from oh my god, why can'tI think of it right now? From
Africa and her parents brought her hereand then she went to college and now
she's in her thirties and I justdiscovered her rapping. She killed Nigeria and
she she was just rapping. I'mjust looking at this chick, just rap
and like nobody really knows who sheis. And so I hit her up

(29:36):
and I'm like, yo, youare dope, like you are dope,
like you're one of the illess rappersI've ever heard like male woman like none
of that, Like you are justthe dopest And she was like, oh
my god. I was like,will you be on my album? She
was like what, Like she likealmost cries like she couldn't believe it.
And I was like, yo,you're amazed. She was like, I'm
just a regular smegular I work andfind it. I was like, girl,
you ain't regular nothing. You arebeautiful, You're amazing. And you

(29:59):
found her where and I found onTikTok. Hey man, It's crazy how
that can be a tool, youknow, Like like and when we say
about social media, it's not allbad because you can find something you could
be blessed or be a blessing insomething you gotta think see. But most
don't, though, right, AndI'm like why not, you know,
And that's not me calling nobody out. I'm like, okay, cool,

(30:21):
you put your homie on. I'veput my homies on. But like,
we have the power to change someone'slife, whether we put them on our
album, we give them a verse, we tweet out their stuff one time,
but like artists don't really do that. You have that for you?
Hell no, But also like,you know, there were little moments here
there, you know, like Cuddytaking me on tour. That was the
first co sign I ever got kidCutty, so that was dope, the

(30:42):
little things like that. But butcut he ain't put me on this album,
you know. But I'm just like, if I have the power and
the opportunity to not enable someone,but right, and why not? And
that's all I want to do.And that's where I'm at. Just wait,
you don't even know what I gotI got on better days or past

(31:03):
or period. What I don't knowwhat you got. Oh no, you
don't know what I got really whatI got on the way, That is
what I'm saying. I'm like,the next decade of my career. Yeah,
see it already, yes written,It's literally I'm excited. Really though,
Hey man, do you see morekids in logic future for show?
Me and my wife we talk aboutit all the time, but she'd be

(31:23):
going back and first of all,it's her body whenever she want to do
whatever, however she want to doit. But she she told me,
she was like, yeah, afterafter we're having kids, you're gonna get
a eaected me. I was like, hell no, I ain't getting no
exected me. I was like,you get your tubstied now. I'm just
kidding right right right, but yeah, I'm definitely not getting Do you have
a magic number? Uh? Threewould be cool. I'm fine with you

(31:48):
that three is the magic number?Really yeah, like with children, nah
day or soul, three is themagic Well it was also like I think
like a little kiddy nursery rhyme too, but yeah, three is the magic
number. Yeah, I feel likethat could be. That could be cool.
We definitely want a girl. Soyou two boys right now? One
one boy, one boy? Allright? So you got you doing one

(32:08):
girl to one more boy or well, I don't know whatever, God bless
you. I mean if we hadyeah, no, I'm talking about because
with me, when I had myfirst I wasn't like, oh I gotta
have a boy. I gotta havea boy. I was a boy.
No. I just wanted and itsounds so cliche logic. I just wanted
healthy baby, the baby I wanted, you know. And then after we

(32:29):
had my son, Jaden, thenI wanted a girl because I was like,
man, Veronica be so great withwith a girl, giving her princess.
You know what I'm saying, so, so, I was just wondering,
what what do you what do yousee yourself? I would love to
have a little Sophia. Yeah,that's what I name her. So wow,
Sophie. I don't know, Ireally like that that movie Vanilla's Guy,
but she was crazy in that.Actually, Sophia was kind of crazy.

(32:51):
Way. You just want the name? Yeah, yeah, Sophia is
a pretty name of the pH Ithink. Really, yeah, that'd be
cool. Yeah, but you neverknow, right, Yeah, you don't.
Would you do it? Yeah?You know what I'm saying, Blackwater,
You know what I'm saying. Oneday you'll probably pop up exactly.
Man, you know I wanted toname my daughter. You know it's gonna
be yeah Gilbert, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. The times
are changing. The times are changing. So man, you did get up,

(33:15):
and without going into privacy, youdid get up and you left California.
Yeah, I bounced. I actuallyoriginally moved to Utah, and then
I moved up. I moved upin Oregon, hip hop state. Yeah.
Then I got a spot back outhere. I just was like it
was mid COVID and I wasn't reallygoing anywhere, and I was in calavasas
something in the valley. It's likeone hundred and ninety thousand degrees, Like

(33:36):
I can't to go outside, likeyeah, so I don't know. I
just wanted something different and then Iwent there and it was it was cool,
yeah, and then experienced it.Yeah, Oregon's beautiful. But like
I said, my wife she reallyloves the sand. She loves the beach
because she was born out here.So we got a crib out here near
overlooking the beach. I got thatfrom my wife because she deserves it.

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What you're doing for Father's Day iscome, I don't know, is it
Sunday? Sunday? Sunday's family Day? So it's always yeah, it's always
family day. So it's like Saturdayis me and my wife's day, and
then Sunday is me and my wifeand little Bobby and then obviously throughout the
what does family mean to you?Bro yo? You know what's crazy is
like it used to mean uh,blood and pain and gunshots and and drugs

(34:21):
and this and all this, andnow it's like family is actually it's like
a an opportunity to not rewrite butright yeah, like right right, Like
in that Book of Life, likethis chapter, and I can I can
do that. I look at myson, and I don't understand how at

(34:43):
two and a half years old,like somebody could have left me in the
back of a car in Southeast DCfor five hours or you know what I'm
saying, Like all this stuff,and I realized that in order to be
a good parent, truly, halfthe battle really is just being there,
you know. So now I'm like, man, I'm there, and I'm
with my boy and I'm with hismama, and I treat them both with

(35:05):
love and respect, and I'm like, yo, this is easy, right,
but and hard and hard and hardfor sure, but it ain't hard.
Does you care about it? Yeah? Yeah, And I think about
it all the time, you know, but but it's I love it.
Hey, logic. Do you everthink about before your queen the wife and
before your son and the way thatyou possibly may have more family? Do

(35:28):
you ever think about or you lookat your son and say, what was
I doing that meant anything before yougot here? Yeah? For sure?
And I tell my kids that tothis day. And then I say,
you know what I was preparing fory'all to get here? Yeah, that's
how I feel, you know.Because it's crazy now what you probably used
to think was important. Yeah,somebody asked me. They were like,
what, what's like one thing thatchanged you after having your son? And

(35:52):
I was like, oh, I'mlike, way, I'm not selfish because
like everything is for the baby now, you know, before it was for
me and for my ego, andlike, oh, I'm trying to be
at the Grammys and I'm trying todo this, and I'm gonna do this
and that and I'm gonna buy itthis chain. Yeah. Well, I
mean honestly, all the chains Iwas buying, I was getting from the
mall and they was turning my netgreen because I was trying to look cool.

(36:13):
But after that, yeah, it'slike I'm doing all these things,
like I'm just gonna sit on someplay video games all day long, like
nah, you know, yeah,sometimes you gotta a force yourself that and
yeah, and you gotta like planit out, you know what I mean.
But I love it. I loveit, And I've been good with
my money in resting my money.Man, are you a crypto currency?

(36:35):
Go? Yeah, bro, Igot MS in crypto. Really. Annie
had hit me up and she waslike, oh yeah, he invested two
million. I'm still learning crypto,you know. And Annie that worked with
us, man, she really helpsus a lot. But you got in
and you yeah, I mean themarket is down right right, but I
just a good thing. Yeah,I mean I'm like three to five years

(36:58):
in my head, like right,don't even look at it. It's like
the Internet for me right now.I'm just like like, do you mess
with like a lot of the littleones because obviously we know like bitcom,
Bitcoin and Ethereum are really great,but then there's like those coin and yeah,
this coin, those those Bitcoin andethereum are my top two. And
then I put like a couple hundredthousand dollars in other just like oh,
I mean, I can't say yousaid it, but I was just thinking.

(37:20):
I just be like, yeah,twenty three, I got five hundred,
and I'm mad, like wow,what a five hundred worth today?
Yeah? This is a damn.I mean, nothing is like safe,
but I mean it's safer, betis ethereum and bitcoin really uh yeah,
and it's down So if you believe, if you believe I'm big on education,
you have to educate yourself. Soit's like NFTs. I don't have

(37:42):
any NFTs because I like still don'tknow what it is. I'm trying to
still figure it out. I've hadlike my the dude Sam Spratt, who's
done all my album covers up untilthis one. He is now huge in
the NFT world and is like healingit because he's an artist, and he'd
be trying to plain it to me. I'm like, I still don't understand
what you're saying. Yeah, man, I'm like okay, so, and

(38:04):
I've had great people explain it.Yeah, and I'm figuring it out once
I get it. Yeah. Yeah. And that's how I felt about bitcoin,
because I mean five years ago,six years ago, seven years ago,
my boy Christian surf star Chris,who's like the man in this space.
He uh, one of my bestfriends. He's just like, yo,
man, yeah, He's like,bro, you got to get this
bitcoin. And I'm like, whatis it? And he's like, basically,

(38:25):
it's this currency that doesn't actually exist. It's like binary. It's like
so I'm like, wait, holdup, So you want me to put
a bunch of money into like acode on the internet. I'm like,
hell no, hey, man,Like what didn't this sound ridiculous to you?
Though? Yes, Like the matrix. You ever seen that dude that

(38:45):
traded like bitcoin for pizza and Ithink it was like eight hundred million dollars
something sane. Yeah, yeah,you've seen that commercial with a dude he's
in the club and he's partying becausehe's a millionaire, and then this split
second next he's not in the club. He's not a Millionaire's funny. I

(39:07):
haven't seen that. That's hilarious.So you just kind of let it do
what it let it do what todo. Yeah, because I'm also so
you'll watch the beginning. You don'tsit there and watch the roller coaster,
you know. I mean sometimes Ipop in and be like you know what
I mean, But I'm still It'slike I'm good because, like I said,
I put a couple of m's init, and but I didn't put
enough in it where I'm gonna likejump out the window. I would.

(39:30):
I would be like really like itwould f my day up. I'd be
like, damn a man. ButI'd be all right because I got I
got liquid, I got you knowwhat I got in the bank, I
got investments, I got what I'mwearing, I got I got you know,
a nineteen sixty seven Bronco. Igot a charge our original PSA ten
mint conditioned Pokemon card that I boughtfor one hundred and eighty one thousand dollars

(39:53):
a year and a half ago that'snow worth five hundred thousand. Is only
appreciate it coming in September. Don'twant to do that. You're such a
nice guy, you probably give youknow what I'm saying. I actually gave
three of them away to Egon's kids. Really, yeah, I didn't have
those ones. They were like PSAnines and like that. What that work's
the PSA nine? I don't know. It's probably like between I think it's

(40:15):
between thirty and fifty thousands. Idefinitely would have bottled from Jordan's. Yeah,
I definitely would have bottled. SoI gave. I gave it to
because his kids are obsessed with Pokemon. So I was like in a regular
Pokemon car. They got regular Pokemoncars, but these are Pokemon decrepator to
But sure is the difference between youand me, because I'm not trying to
do that for no one's kids,you know what I'm saying. God bless
you man. I give a lotof stuff away. Is this doll in

(40:37):
front of this microphone. My soncalls him Plush daddy plus daddy. Yeah,
this is little This is little meand uh he's my emotional support plush
for today. That's dope, man, Now is that you? Yeah,
this is me. This is oneof one. No, yeah, no,
there's more coming. I'm going toeventually sell you why I brought him,

(40:58):
that's what. But that's what yousay. I don't. I have
no idea what's coming. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, man. Oh but
just wait when we get I'm gonnatell you something crazy. All right,
Well, I'm gonna hold that level. Man. Hey, bro, but
I thank you for coming into theneighborhood. Man, thank you always the
pleasure to see you. Man.When I knew that you were on the
schedule, I look forward to havingto sit down with you. Bro.

(41:20):
Thanks a lot. Man. Thatmeans a lot to me. And I'm
just trying to, you know,keep the piece of in positivity. I
can't believe it's been ten years andI'm still blessed and relevant enough to be
able to come come here and sitdown with you. So I'm just like
counting my blessings. I can't believeI still have fans all over the world
arenas to play this and that.I'm just trying to I'm trying to make
classic music, have fun, spreada good message. Ever a trip off,

(41:42):
not that you don't deserve it,but do you ever trip off that
it's you? Oh bro yeah allthe time, Like it's weird. I'm
like, damn yeah, man,yeah, no for sure. I like
yeah, I'm logic, like it'slike it's so and it's not bragadocious like
I still I've been in radio.This is my twenty eighth year, right
wow, And I'll still here hearsomething on radio and I'd be like,

(42:04):
that's me. Wow, you knowwhat I'm saying. Or we're sitting here
literally be live on air, andI'll say, man, people are listening
to us. It's crazy. That'sand and even last night, right and
and I know you're probably gonna think, oh, biggie Bully, but I
also know, like it's crazy thatI'm on your itinerary, that you're scheduled.
So when somebody asks you what you'redoing tomorrow, You're like, oh,

(42:27):
I'm going to go do big Boy. Like that still trips me out.
This is the highlight, This isthis is that's man, this is
the one for me. Yeah,Man, continue and God willing that feeling
never dissipates, never goes well,And continue man. I always love having
you in the neighborhood. Bro.I root for not your success, I
root for your happiness. I appreciateyou, know what I'm saying. So
God bless you, my brother,and I can't wait to hear the album.

(42:50):
I can't wait to hear them.That mean you're supposed to gave it
to us before it came up,but mill walking and didn't understand what I
was doing. You know what I'msaying, Big boy, Neighborhood Logic in
the neighborhood, Big interview is goingdown at Talia Logic. A lot of
people love analyzing your album covers.There's always like these little clues that you
put in there. Yeah, andobviously on vinyl days, we see like
a hoverboard. I saw like alittle pulp fiction doll. Was that is

(43:13):
that photo? Like? How accurateis that photo of real life? And
did you place things in there becauseyou specifically wanted them to be seen?
That album cover where my son issitting is literally where I made the entire
album's life. Yeah, that's mythat's my room in Orgon. It takes
a I feel like you have tocrawl around. Oh yeah, you got
to get through it. Yeah,which I like. I like like kind
of being surrounded by like madness,but it's like organized chaos in a way

(43:37):
because I know where everything is.It's like really weird. Yeah. And
then there's just like little Easter eggsthat were placed in after the the because
I took that photo of myself,yeah, of my baby. Yeah,
so the there's a lot of Eastereggs in there, some of them,
some most people actually don't really knowthat they know a couple of them,
but most of them. Because there'sso much stuff that's new, Like I

(43:59):
got like a tarantee no universe ofstuff going on, whether it comes to
albums or books and this and allthis other stuff. And there's so much
on that album cover that's that's happeningor will happen. You know what.
I love about it too, though, man, And I'm gonna tell you
straight up, my vision is horrible. So but I love the fact that
you don't put it down. Youknow how, sometimes when you can come

(44:20):
back to something and it becomes conversation, like oh, man, did you
see this in there? So Ithink we don't have that anymore. Is
like conversation, Yeah, yeah,I think I think people I don't know.
It's funny because it's almost like nowadayseverything is image, and yet at
the same time, nobody really caresabout the image, like they don't actually
care. It's more surface level.I had a conversation with no Id and

(44:43):
he said one of the realist thingsto me. He was like, music
is not about music at all anymore. And I kind of stepped back and
was like, damn, it's likereally not like you could make a fire
like a couple of years ago,like the internet was like making fun of
Eminem, like it was just afun thing to do, Like, oh,
we're just gonna make fun of conversation. He's too lyrical, miracle sch

(45:04):
miracle, like what we've had thisconversation. I'm like, yo, something,
I'm in bizarro way, dude.It's crazy because we've had this conversation
where I say, man, Eminemis crazy. How people come at Eminem.
And I remember Eminem just what theworld felt like the grasp he had
on it. And I tell peoplesometimes and and not to take this the
wrong way. I say, youknow what happened with Eminem? Bro?

(45:27):
He lived? Damn he lived.Bro Eminem had passed. Understand what I'm
saying. I don't click bait this, none of that. If he had
passed in the so called prime biggestthing, not to the genre, biggest
thing in the world. But helived, so he didn't he became goofy

(45:51):
or he became old school and guesswhat he lived and he is that yes
to me, and yeah, butI agree, it's it's just anyway,
it is what it is. Man, Look great, he got his beard.
I wish I had a beer.And I don't think he's sitting at
home at every moment worried about that. You know. You know, does
he want to hit record? Probablythat's Eminem, you know what I'm saying.

(46:15):
But also Eminem can come up andannounce the tour tomorrow. Yeah,
and it's done. You know whatI'm saying. I agree. I think
also when it comes to all thatstuff, like I learned to let it
go because it's like, how manyhits can you have, how many number
ones can you have? How manybillions of streams can you? Like I've
hit the pinnacle. I really believethis. As a musician, I've I've
checked every from the money, thefame, being recognized, selling out arenas

(46:38):
around the world, like doing all. I've done it all. I even
went to the Grammys. I feltlike I won that night, and I
feel like win a Grammy, right, but that night was mine. I
got to perform. It was reallyamazing. So that I think is the
only thing on my list of thingsI wanted was a Grammy. And now
I'm like, I don't even giveit damn right, like for real,
you know what I mean. SoI look at cats like and I'm like,

(47:00):
man, he's just doing him andthat that's what inspires me, you
know what I mean. Like Ididn't even know he knew how I was
a couple of years ago, andhe like shot me out on a record
and I was like, oh mygod. And then the next thing,
you know, like we're on asong together. He's one of the illest
dudes. He's so nice, andwhen I met him, I was all
nervous. I was like, yo, am I being weird? He was
like no, man, You're cool, and I'm like, okay, cool,

(47:22):
and we're like talking about rapping.I'm like, am I being weird.
Now He's like, no, You'refine, and I'm like, okay,
cool. And then we're talking aboutsome others and I'm like, am
I being weird? He's like,now you're being weird. I was like,
hey, man, I remember whenI introduced Russ to Kanye West really
because Russ loved Kanye. He lovedhim, and I was like, bro,
I called Kanye. He spoke.I never met Kanye Oh really though,

(47:45):
yo, man, and he wasthat's just his God. Now I'm
jealous. I don't worry about it. Man, I'm gonna call Russ like
damn you. But but just whatAnd I think that was his afterwards,
Like man, everything was I wasokay, right. I was like,
bro, you're beautiful in there.You know what I'm saying. You were
beautiful man. And it's crazy becausethey tell you don't meet your hero,
but he met his hero and Kanyeit was time and it was beautiful.

(48:07):
It was one on one. Itwasn't like who's this guy? You know?
So yeah, so sitting down withyour heroes, bro, But you're
the eminem the Kanye. You're thatto someone else, you know what I'm
saying, Like, you gotta thinkthat it's got to know that it's weird.
It is weird. It's a weirdthing. I try not to think
about it. I'm just trying toDamn, I'm blessing. That's so sweet

(48:30):
of you. Yeah, No,it's a weird thing to think about that,
you know, And sometimes I do, and it makes me really happy
because like I worked so hard,man, man, for so long,
and like now like I'm here,and it's crazy. Man, when you
say you work for so long,so hard, people that really could listen

(48:50):
to you would understand, like,dude, this dude works. This dude
is lyrical. He cares about likewhat he puts out. You can see
you put a lot into it forsure, you know. And it's crazy
because and I don't know if youlook for that so called validation of does
your name come up? You know? And the enoughs is he hip hop

(49:13):
enough? You know? Who's thisguy? He doesn't look hipp like.
There's a lot of boxes that wetry to put people into that it feels
like now, at one point,I feel you were worried about those boxes
one hundred percent. Now I'm justlike I'm straight, I'm in a sphere.
Yeah, you got and you gota logic box. Yes, you
know, and I'm just me andin that box it's like one of them

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Russian dolls. It's like hell ofboxes in that box. Yeah. And
it's like an infinite boxes of boxes. You know, it's crazy. I'm
so happy I didn't just like comeout the gate and blew up like I
had this really slow burned. Youknow. My second album came out in
twenty fifteen, and I was doingfive thousand cap rooms. And then so
when my third album came out,but even at five thousand, did you
think, like, man, fivethousands? No, I was like just

(49:58):
saying good enough. Wow. Yeah, But that's because I was brainwashed,
you know what I mean, bythe industry and what's this or that or
whatever. And then so when Igot the worldwide smash with one eight hundred,
and it wasn't even trying because likemy whole career, I was like,
gotta get a hit. Right.If you listening to like every mixtaper
album I did, there's like twojoints on that. I look back and
I'm like, oh, because Iwas like I was in the studio like

(50:20):
this is it wasn't nobody in thestudio that day, like, Yo,
this song about suicide about to go, let's go we in the club,
Like no nobody thought that. Andthen once it happened, Uh, you
know, I felt so solidified asan artist with my fan base the rap
pack that then boom, It's likeI was a household name and I'm at
the Grammys and the VMA's and allthis other stuff. I was like,

(50:42):
I'm about to Tiger Woods. Weabout to follow through. And then that's
when I came with like the Bangers, and I'm working with Marshmallow and I'm
making pop music and trap music andi made a hell of a lot of
money. And now I'm here andI'm like, well, I made my
money, I made my baby,you know, and I'm happy. I'm
about to just be rapp and doglike that's all I care about. Hey
man, when you do look atthe success of one eight hundred, right,

(51:05):
and not taking away from what anyoneelse does. Yeah, sure,
but it wasn't the in the clubpopped the bottle, you know what I'm
saying. And even looking at thenumbers where they say like the lifelines as
far as with one eight hundred,even the lines increased. Congress wrote me
a letter. They wrote me aletter like thanking me for the impact that

(51:27):
I have had on the world,and I was like, does that become
heavy too? Yeah? It was, but like I used to hate doing
that song because then I'm doing asong every day and I'm just talking about
killing yourself all the time, andthen you meet people that are like have
either attempted it or people who attemptedit successfully, and then it's just I
was it was just like not adarkness too. Nine months of my life
was just talking about death, soit was really difficult. But then having

(51:47):
that time and stepping away and notdoing anything and just being with my baby,
Like I'm like, man, yeah, I'm the one eight hundred guy.
Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's tight. But you did
have to kind of probably separate yourselfaway from it. Yeah. Yeah,
it's really hard. That's why I'mlike, the real heroes are the people
who are actually at the lifeline rightdeal with this every day and they have
the strength to do that, youknow. But I don't know, I'm

(52:12):
so I couldn't be. I can'teven tell you what it means to me
that I'm like, like people lookat me and they're like Oh, this
dude's an advocate for mental health andanxiety and he's himself and he's open and
he's honest, and I'm like,man, that is so tight, Like
I'd rather be that than known forwhat I'm wearing. You know, I'm
gonna look fly while I'm talking aboutanxiety, man. But yeah, but
it's like, I'm so happy I'mme, man. And I used to

(52:36):
not want to be me. Iwanted to be ka dot because who doesn't
want to be ka dot? Youknow? I wanted to be Drake.
I wanted to be called. Iwanted to be all these people. And
I'm I'm happy that there them andI'm me and I love my brothers and
I love myself and I'm just like, yo, this is me taking to
leave it. I heard that logicin the Neighborhood Big Interview, Big Boys
Neighborhood Crop clup, clup never differen