THE BIG INTERVIEW - Mentalist Kevin Hamdan Terrifies Big Boy w/ Impossible Mind-Reading Tricks!

THE BIG INTERVIEW - Mentalist Kevin Hamdan Terrifies Big Boy w/ Impossible Mind-Reading Tricks!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to another episode of The BigThe Big Interview Podcast. How many seconds
would you give me to read yourmind if I were to hit start?
How many seconds on the title God, oh my god, genuinely speaking,
is there anyway I can know whatthis is? Honestly anyone in the at

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all? Oh my god, Ohmy god, on my mom or you
guys, on my mother's grave.He touched my nose like this, and
you feel big boy, neighborhood beautifulin the neighborhood, ladies and gentlemen.
Man, Now, I told youguys know, I'm not really on social

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media like a lot, right,But I saw this guy name Kevin Hampden,
and Kevin Hampton is a mentalist,and I would look at his exactly
what now, he's not mental,he's a mentalist. But I would look
and I'm like, man, it'slike that street thing where you see someone
kind of just walk up to someoneand then say, you know, think
of your your first kiss, andthen when he say it, then just

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take off running. So I waslike, I tapped in with Kevin.
I slid in his dam and Iwas like, man, like I'm going
down a rabbit hole with you.And now he's in the neighborhood. Welcome
to the neighborhood, dame, thankyou very much. So Kevin, what
yeah, as Louis was saying,what is a mentalist? So, mentalist
is someone that creates the illusion ofmind reading and sent you my jobs to
get inside people's heads, either puta thought in their head or take one
out. Okay, it's a rangeof all that with the mind. Now

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we use psychology suggestion influence those kindof things to make it seem like a
really inside your head. Okay,so you're not, so you're not gonna
be standing on my brain or nothing. Maybe maybe alrighty, so so we're
we're safe. You're like, okay, and I did one of these things
like I'm not damn does Kevin,No, I'm not wearing an underweard and
just don't think of your bank pins. Don't do that? Okay, Oh

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really can you do that? Yeah? Man, I already thought of it.
Thank you. I see. That'sthat suggestion that you were talking about.
When when you say don't think aboutit, like, don't think of
me naked, got you smile becauseshe seen me naked. That's growing up.
Did you know early on that youwanted to do this. Yes,
great, like how old of five? Yeah? Yeah, it was my

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dad. So he showed me onetrick. It was a mind reading based
card trick. It was five cards, took five cards at the deck,
think one and then he found it. Now, as a young age,
when someone got inside my head likethat, specially my dad, it blew
me away. I'm there's some crazystuff right now. And it from that
moment, I wanted to know howhe did it, and I wanted to
start pursuing more. So he wouldn'tteach me right away. It wasn't until

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I was seven that he taught methe trick. But it was that moment
that started it. So I startedat young age trying to think, Okay,
how can I do this? IfI want to do this specific thing,
how do I do it? Howdo I go about doing it?
And I started to come up withways to do stuff, and at the
time to see David Blaine, ChrisAngel and tea Man, and that was
getting me more and more and moreinto it and more addicted to the entire
But the first thing was like yourdad, she's showing you a trick.

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I remember my dad, he didthe trick with me, Man, he
disappeared. Yeah, and I neverseen him after that. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah man, Imean he I mean he stayed true
to the trick too, bro Like, he never he never came back.
I didn't even want to laugh atthat at all. But yeah, man,

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he was like and it was like, dude, boom gone. You
know what I'm saying to this day, I don't drink milk. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, itwas like I'm going to get milk,
and then he left. I'm sosorry to hear that. I don't worry
about him, man, I'm prettysure you can bring him back with what
you do. You know what I'msaying if I wanted him here. But
what I wanted to do, manis I just wanted to We could talk
about it, but I wanted tobe about it, and I just wanted
you to demonstrate, you know,things that that you could do for us

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here while we're on air. Yeah, absolutely, hundred percent. Who do
you want me to start with?Do you want to start with you?
Um? Can we start with whateverwas happening out here are? Or do
you want to start with Annie?You tell me whatever? Yeah, I
want to start like light something Ican't start, like, well, you
take us? Yeah, all right, yeah, you take us you want
you want to start? Yah?Yeah, okay, here do you know
what this is? Where's the camera? Alrighty? The camera is right there,

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so we haven't gone yeah, justto die. What I want you
to do the best way to dothis that I feel is I'm gonna have
to turn this way, close myeyes, and you have to keep me
honest, keep keep me out on. Look. What I want you to
do is put any number face up. Let's say you want three, three,
face up? Cover it. Now. The reason we do this is
number one. When I turned tolook at you, I can't see anything.

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Number two. If you want tolie to me, not saying you're
a liar, but people have triedto lie in the past, you say
no, it's four. You liftup and that's the proof there. Sound
good? Any number you want,any number, any number. Now we're
gonna mean to be an eye onhim, lou and then on he tell
me when you're good, alrighty,I got it, we got it,
and cover it. Tell me Ican turn. I can look at you,

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yes, yes, okay, outloud. I want you to count
from one to six. It wouldbe one, two, three, four
or five six out loud. Onetwo three four five six, Now can
you do that? Looking at me? One three four five six? So
interesting? She did something twice.I think the camera will tell one two
three four five six. You kindof over emphasize that two. I'm gonna

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say that's a two. Yes.Well I didn't even realize they did that.
Ye. Now this is now,this is the thing you you watched,
right? Yeah? What we doit with you? You want to
catch yes? Yes? Yes?Yes? All right? Perfect? Okay,
Now this is the best way.How can we do this? You
gotta keep me honest. I'm gonnalook that way again. Okay, alrighty

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cover my eyes. I'm gonna lookthat way alrighty uh oh do you know
it? Okay, m you canhold it up? Yeah, alrighty okay,
I got it. Yes, Yes, I can turn. Yes,
you can't. Okay, this time, you're not going to count out loud.
Okay, all right, I'm gonnacount and you're gonna imagine saying stop

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in your head. Okay. Okay, one two three four five six.
One two three four five six.So he didn't do anything again. See
what I'm gonna go with you wantto go count again? Because you didn't
give anything away, which is great. I'm gonna do it one more time.
One, two, three, four, five, six. You imagine

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stopping a five? Yeah? Bang? What are you looking at? Man?
And you know what? And Istuttered stepped on the first one.
That's why I said let's do itagain, because I stopped you. I
was thinking if I stopped you andsay I was like all over the place.
Yeah, that's crazy, bro.How about we do it one more

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time, but this time I'm notgonna count. You're not gonna count.
You're just gonna say it in yourhead. Okay, yeah, here are
you alrighty? Not looking alrighty?Don't cover it completely alright, yes you
can. Don't say anything allowed,just near your head, screaming in your

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head to me four? Yeah no, And you said that's starting simple.
God, Oh my god, KevinHamden, the mentalist in the neighborhood.

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Ladies and gentlemen, how about wedo something a little bit more branded.
Okay, you've had a lot ofartists here on the show, Yes,
sir. Now do you know whatthe largest or most used website is for
lyrics? Anyone in the room likegenius or something exactly perfect? Can you
go to genius dot com and yourphone for me? Okay, and I'm
gonna and this is me or shouldwe have somebody else do this? Whoever
you know? Maybe maybe with you? With you? Alright, and I'm

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going to genius dot com. Yesplease, yeah, right to bring up
my timer because this is gonna makesense in a moment. Okay, alrighty,
I'm at genius dot com. Perfect. Now, you've had a lot
of artists on the show, right, I'm gonna think of a song of
someone that's been on the show.Okay, there's a lot. Okay,

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yes it has been. Can Ilook it up on genius? You're gonna
try to guess it for me?Okay, you're looking at it on yours
on my phone? Yeah, soI'm handing you my phone if you're cool
with that. Yeah, definitely,so definitely, huh, faithful to my
wife perfect Genius dot com. Yes, I'm gonna look up a song.
But I don't even want you tosee because I don't want you to think
you're gonna tell him, right.I want him to just guess it on

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his own exactly. I'm gonna tryto send it to you. Okay,
I'm gonna try to send you thebeat. Okay, so you're sending it
to me, I'm not sending itto you, all right. You're gonna
try to guess it for me.Okay. And if someone that's been in
here, they've been on here Okay. I don't want to say when,
because that's gonna probably give it away. You're getting something or not yet.
Okay, how about if I lookit up, maybe you'll get it.

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Okay, I got it. Okay. This is impossible to look at someone
and guess a song. Now I'mgiving you a hint. Now, I'm
guessing the song of the artists bothOkay, whatever you feel, even if

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you get one or the other.What do you who do you think the
artist is? Ken? Drake LamarNo, okay, I'll give you one
more chance. Go for the song? You got it? I don't know
you don't, not, nah,because what I have I have Drake okay,

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so no, it's it's fifty centsstraight to the bank. Yeah,
okay, you didn't have that.Okay, it's okay, it's okay,
No, it's okay. This showsyou how difficult that is, right,
So I hit the little search barhere in the Ingenius Can you look up
a song, but don't tell meif they've been on the show. Don't
tell me when nothing with no hints. Okay, So, for example,
let's say we were to go withDrake Drake one ends, right, if

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that's was one that popped in yourhead on Genius. Once it loads,
all the options come there, youclick it, and it's gonna load the
lyrics because I want you to seeall the lyrics in your mind sound good.
So it's already clicked for you.All you gotta do is just typing
in, all right, So I'mtyping in a song now, yeah,
yeah, And then once they popup, you're gonna click to find so

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you'll see the options are there forGenius. And once it's there, click
it and all the lyrics will popup. Did the options pop up for
that song? Yes? Did youclick it? Good? Now you see
the lyrics? Yes? Yes,I want you to look through those lyrics.
There's a reason you were gravitated towardsthe song. There's a reason that
this song, this song stood outto you. Now, okay, scroll

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through and find one word, onelyric that stands out to you. One
word in there that really really standsout, and once you find it highlighted,
that's our proof for the camera later. Want you to hold on to
that word and it's gonna highlight you. Got it, right, Take a
mental limit, stare at that word, really get that in your mind.
Good. Put the phone face down, genuinely speaking. Is there any way

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I can know what this is?Honestly anyone in the room at all?
How many seconds would you give meto read your mind? If I were
to hit start? How many secondson the timer to get that word,
to get the whatever you like?I gave you twenty twenty seconds? You
want to watch with me? Yeah, we're gonna start it right there in
your head. I want you toimagine saying the song, everything about it,
imagine seeing everything. Okay, I'mgonna stop right there, seven seven

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seconds. If I were to getin seven seconds seven point five, would
that be good? Yes? Sevenpoint five. I'm just building it up.
I didn't get anything yet. Ididn't get anything yet. Do you
know what the point of that is? Right? You fixate on one idea,
the little humor there? Oh Ididn't get That'd be good? You
let your guard down for one moment, see, because you put your guard

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up. That's what people do afterI read your mind like that. Yeah,
which a simple little thing. Yeah, it puts you on guard,
right, And I'm all over theplace with the word too, you are,
and I'm doing the lyrics in myhead and all kind of okay,
so locking with me. Now,imagine hearing the artist. Okay, what

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do you want to start with theword or the song? What's what would
impress you more? Hitting the wordor hitting the song? First? Song
first, then the word? Okay, think of the artist from me.
Okay, okay, this is good. Imagine for a minute. This is
a very strange thing. Just imaginefor a minute, nobody's in the room,
is just me and you. We'regonna have a mental conversation. My

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name's Kevin. Your name is obviouslyalready know, but in your head say
it not a loud in your head? Good, You're locking in. Feels
like nobody's here now. My name'sKevin. Your name is louder in your
head. See, immediately when Isaid think of the artist, you started
think of thinking of the artist doingsomething specifically. Wasn't even about the song.
You started seeing them doing something.Light up right, say the whole

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song your head to me, now, in your head to me, Now,
what's my name? Snoop Dog God? Oh my god, yeah,
one billion percent? The word whoahold on the word? Did you see

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him smoking? Hold on? Onebillion percent? You me up right now,
you've met up right now. Whenyou said, what do you say?
Light it up? I was like, no, bro, because you

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saw an image of him right whenI said think of the artist, you
saw him here in your mind.It's an interesting thing. Oh my god.
It was just a matter of timebecause matter was the word too.
Yeah, Oh my god, ohmy god, no, hold on,
man, Remember he said, highlightthe word. Oh my god, my

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flip. But on my mama,the word was matter. And I don't
even know where matter came into this. I just highlighted it on my mama.
You guys, on my mother's grave, the word was matter. Oh
my god, Oh my god,how do you learn that? You know?

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How do you learn? Look atme and say it in your head
and and dude like, what's myname? Is my favorite Snoop dog song?
And it's not like, oh heknew it was my favorite Snoop DOGG
song? He knew like when yousaid, highlight any word, I highlight
it matters. Yeah, that's insaneman. From the songs, yeah,

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bro, from all the songs.Did you feel like you were giving anything
away? Not at all. Ididn't even real I emphasized my twos like
that. I was like, oh, she looked, she looked away when
she said to the first time,and I was like, Annie, don't
do that. And then he waslike, she said, Annie, don't
do that. Yeah, be careful. You know, I'm literally scared to

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think around you. You should be. Yeah, I'm literally scared. Hey,
dude, And when I, oh, your homies was looking through.
Man. Now, when we werein the other room, you told me
to think of like a childhood friend. Yeah, which you never said anything,
right, you never never You literallyjust thought of this. Now.
The reason I did this is Ikind of want to get you into that
kind of mind state that that stateof mind. Okay. Now, you

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didn't give any details to anybody aboutwhat the memory was. You never looked
up details about the memory. Younever typed in any details about the memory.
Nothing. It's literally just in yourhead. Yes, you never even
said anything all out. Never perfect. What we're gonna do is I'm gonna
go to my notes. We're gonnacreate a note together. All right,
Okay, I need to go tomy notes. No, don't worry.
Yeah, I want to create anote together. Mercy roh mind blow.

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Now you said there was a childhoodfriend's name, and this one stands out.
I'm gonna give you an option.Do you want to change to someone
else? Understand, I'm a bigbeliever in the butterfly effect. Every decision
we make in our life leads usto where we are today. Every thought
we have, every person we meet, every decision we have, it leads
us to where we are today.Change one thing, everything changes, right,

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do you want to change this person? Remember you have that option too,
right, but I don't want tochange that person. Perfect for the
first time. What is the person'sname? We're gonna make a note here
and yeah, Frankie Frankie. Andis that with a why or an I
E? I E. We callhim frank but it's Frankie. Frank I

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just got goose bumps. It's veryinteresting, Frankie. Now, if you
were to look around in this memory. Now I didn't have you do this,
but right now I want you tolook around in your mind and this
memory. Okay, can you thinkof something that stands out here, whether
it be an object, an image, something that's one word, one word
that stands out. For example,if I were to think back of the
memory with my father with the cards, cards, magic, whatever, mind?

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Right, I got it? Whatis it? Radio crazy? And
there's no way I could have knownthat. Do you want to change this?
No? Insane radio. The lastthing is if you had to give
one word to best describe this memoryagain, whatever you have in your head,

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you can change it to what youfeel for the memory that I have
with Frankie. Yeah, or orlast second, another memory pops in your
head with Frankie. Whatever it is, Okay, I got a memory?
What is it? What's the word? A word to describe it? One
word? Yeah? If you can. Sheba sheba, s h e I

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b a to me, sh eba? Are you sure I'll take it?
Goosebumps, sheba, Frankie radio sheba. This is a creation that you
just made. Now, Yes,this could have been literally anything that you
wanted. You could have thought ofanyone's name, You could have thought of

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any memory, you could have thoughtof any image that stood out. But
you gravitated towards Frankie Radio and Shebaright now, sincere question, is there
any way I could have known thisbefore? No? Is there anyway I
could have known this yesterday? No? Is there anywhere I could have known
this back at my airbnb NOCA.I want you to see something before anything,

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say, I made a little notein my pocket. Frankie Radio and
Sheba stop it. You know Iput that on my mama's grave. Is

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that I don't want to start investingthat a regular post is. Yeah,
you can keep this now. Frankiead of mine that I grew up with
radio is because he used to fixradios and just have all this stuff around
him. And Sheba was his dogthat got hit by a car and we
had to get Sheba out of thestreet. Now they think we had a

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moment. So I want you togo to them now. Yeah, you
know they say a little men thatto swap me. Hey man, this
times when when and I don't knowwhat the prep work is, when when
you will say think of your firstkiss? Yeah, is that something you

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could do with Natalia? Or dosomething with them now? Because we could
definitely do something. Yeah, canI stand up or yes? Now?
You can stand up, he canstand up. Yeah. Do you want
to play a little mind game before? Can kind of get inside your head
and kind of guests certain details wereto play a little mind game, yeah,
okay, go to Google for meon your phone. So far whatever
it is that you use, perfectgood. Can I look somebody up?

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You're gonna try to read my mind. I'm gonna give you one hint.
It's something in this room. Veryeasy. You're gonna look it up on
my You're gonna try to read mymind? Kind of how we did it
right? We lock it in thatway. You could have looked up,
or you could have said any songyou couldn't lock on to straight through the
bank. But again I guided meto kind of where you think we're gonna
do that too. Okay, youlook scared, don't be scared. Don't

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google right there. Yeah, we'lleven brighten it up for everybody here.
Do you want me brighten it foryou? That's fine? Okay? Easy?
What do you think I looked upand it's something in this room?
Yeah? Money lights? Okay,okay, so okay, don't worry.

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We'll do it again. We'll doit again. Don't worry, don't worry
again. It doesn't matter if youget it right. It doesn't matter if
you get it wrong. It justkind of sets a tone for how you
think. M hm, you knowhere, how about we go back.
We'll do it a bit different.What did you what did were you saying?
First kiss? Yeah? Are youcomfortable with them? Yeah? Do
you remember? Do me a favor. Type in their name and tell me

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if an image of them pops up. Typing their name. I'm gonna stand
right here their full name, whateveryou like. I put the first name,
good search and scroll through, popsup, okay, and keep it,
keep you like even anything. Whatwe're gonna do is we're gonna set
up something for after you and Iwhich we can keep rolling. I want

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you to hold onto these okay.Actually know what. No, I'm gonna
write something down for you. We'lldo something else with that. I'm gonna
write something down. Just are youdid you find anything? I mean,
photoshotos? Okay, anything that standsout with them, with them specifically now,
no, just the name, okay, lock the phone, put it.

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We might have to do something elsewhile she's doing that kind of getting
in there. I'm gonna just sayone word to you now, you don't
know what that means. That's gonnamake sense in a moment. Okay,
Now, I want you to holdthat anywhere you like. Now. The
reason I did this is on myphone. I have a list of one

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hundred different things, one hundred differentthings which we're gonna get to. Okay.
On that, you're gonna name anumber between one and a hundred.
Okay, let me even get thatready for you now. Okay, so
we're gonna leave this right here.So I'm just leave it right there and
we're gonna scroll to that the notesin a sect. All right. I

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want this to be super fair.Go through some some numbers in your head
between one and a hundred. Keepchanges as many times as you like,
whenever it feels right. Stop good. Do you have them in your mind?
Perfect? Now? Honestly speaking,is there any way I can know
this anyone in the room? Sincerely? Now, did you know you're gonna
think about your first kiss before?No? No, no, We're gonna

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get right back to you. Youhave the number in your head yet?
Yes, for the first time?What was the number? Forty two?
Forty two? If you were tochange, what would you change to seventeen
seventeen. Now, this is thething on my phone. I told you
I have a list of one hundreddifferent things, specifically one hundred drawings,
because I do believe drawings are apretty close thing to replicate life, because
art imitates life and life imitates art. Right, all those drawings kind of

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symbolized stuff that we see day today. But you said forty two,
Okay, I want you to watchthis. We're gonna go right to the
notes. Forty two okay, onehundred most are on drawings. Seventeen would
have been what flower? But hewanted forty two? What's forty two?
House? And are these all different? Yes? Yeah, it's not the
same one. As we go through, even the camera's gonna pick up.

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You can watch this back house.Remember I said, all it took was
now have a look what I wrotedown inside that paper. This has nothing
to do with what I'm thinking.The house. What about it? You
said forty two? Forty two?Is that house? Are you see you

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saw? Man? I was socaught up on some other What is it
saying the number forty two? Ithought of the number with what the image
was house? Do you understand?Yeah? Yeah, still not your first
kiss, though. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
no way, keep saying it.Okay, we're good, We're good.

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We're good, We're good, We'regood. Okay, maybe it's a
bit difficult. You can take onestep forward from me. Ye, put
your hands up. Good, Takeone step forward. He put one hand
up, Okay, good. Imaginefor one moment that I was hit.

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Okay, maybe that's a bit weird. Let's not do that. Imagine going
back to that moment. Now,Okay, this is good. Imagine you
left the right hand, your righthand, right hand. Okay, I
was feeling really close here. Thisis better. Okay. Imagine writing the
person's name. Okay, you're shaking, don't shake. Just think. Think

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of the letters somewhere in the middle. Okay, dropped down for a second
coin. Are you thinking of thename and its abbreviation or is there like
a longer version of the name.There is a longer version of name version
the short is the reason for theshorter version. What you called them?
What do you what do you prefer? I guess the shorter version or the
longer version of what do you want? The shorter, the longer, the
short? Fine? For sure.Imagine they're right here. Okay, you're

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gonna introduce me Kevin. This isKevin, this is Mike shots shot what
no way, There's no way,no way. I'm not even kidding you.

(26:08):
Mike from high school, ninth grade? First kiss? All right?
Is there is there anything else forus to do? Like? What do
you want to do? I don'tknow? You tell me bro any questions
for me? Yeah? Anybody gotI already wondered, Like, I want
to know who's the most like famousperson you've performed for the most famous tripped

(26:30):
out? It would be Drake.Yeah, and you're from Did you know
Drake beforehand? Or he just sawwhat you did? No? No,
Um I saw him at one ofthe parties I was at that I just
went to hang out and Um,I was performing for the people around him,
and he was really like, supernice guy. He was really really
into it. I could tell whenI was performing for this person he was

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watching. It was like he lovesmagic. You can feel that he loves
magic, and I know that resonateswith me. I love performing for people
that I love the art because it'snot a challenge. Right, I'm not
better than you. I'm not tryingto say, hey, I got these
special gifts. It's a connection,right, You create a connection with someone
to give them a memory they're nevergoing to forget, right, and like
that's something you're never gonna forget.So when I saw he was really locked

(27:14):
in watching it, I was like, Yo, can I show you something?
He's like, yeah, no problem, and I did something customized for
him. At the end, it'sjust absolutely blown away, which I did
really really resonate with that, likeit is extremely extremely nice guy, very
very nice guy. Alrighty man,is there one that that you can leave
us with? We got ty Dollasign Who'll be coming into the neighborhood afterwards
as well? Man, and Iwant you to do something with tie.

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But is there anything else that youcould quickly do with us that you don't
that you're not going to do withtime? Absolutely? Do you have a
phone? Yes? What kind ofphone? He has too? He has
iPhone and has an Android. CanI try to unlock it? Yeah?
Please? Man? And they sendthis to his wife phone locked up?

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Now, Hey, Honny, makesure that that Jos's phone is locked up
before before Kevin gets to it.Okay, it's all right, six okay,
um? Because if I'm wrong youknow I gotta fix it up,

(28:21):
right, think of the first agefrom me? How many chances do I
get before it locks? Melt?I think I think ten? Right?
Three? Okay? I thought itwas ten because I know I've messed up
a lot. Six six tries.You know what, we'll do it after

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come here? What do you wantto unlock it for me? M I
feel bad? Guess to get onthe radio like that for you, I
won't even look Okay, good,perfect, Okay? Can I take this
off? I'm a big believer inmemories, right? Can you get a

(29:17):
picture like this for you? Guys? Must memories forever? Actually? Okay,
redo it? Actually it's good?Okay? And where's your calculm?

(29:48):
You don't know? Perfect? Okay? Okay, Joe, you're here,
perfect, Name any number you one? Start off? Anyone? Hello?
Yeah, nineteen nineteen, So we'regonna do nineteen times. You name a
number seven times, you name anumber five, five times, you name

(30:08):
a number seven seven times, youname another number seventeen seventeen times. I'm
gonna name it. I'm gonna typea number times one more eleven eleven good,
yeah, equals? Okay? Isthat random? Six? Two?
Two, three, one, zero, five, one, all the numbers

(30:32):
we all said random, m nofair your phone, yes, hold it
up, sincerely speaking? Is thereanyone I could have known this number before?
Anything? What that number? Yeah? No, no, we all
gave you a number. No no, So he's trying to unlock my phone.
No, no, no, Butthis is the thing I think.
Okay, this is random? Right? Right? What did I say before

(30:57):
all this? You know when youlocked into a memory? The decision week
the thought we have leads to swearto where we are today? Butterfly effect.
If you look at that number sixtwo two three, let's June second,
that's today, twenty three, twentytwenty three, exactly, dude,

(31:18):
look at them by no yes,man, well I got chills you watching
the whole time? Only present equalsHe didn't like, no, Helen,
because now tell he said it andhe hit equal. That's crazy he did.
Yeah, you don't want to tiedown sign in the audience. That's

(31:44):
crazy. Bro, you did thattime. That's why you want to be
some coins something crazy? Alrighty,hey, let's get tie tie get in
the seat over here real quick,right for you. I'm not gonna do
that, but I'll do for youout right, facy chair, good,

(32:07):
hands by your side, and youcan take your glass eyes that cool?
Okay, my bad. I hatetake the context too for years. I
don't think those are his eyes.Deep breath then, okay, Big,
do me a favor. I wantyou stay in the palm of my head.
Imagine a ball of lights here isgonna go up. It's gonna fall

(32:28):
down once it falls down. Iwant you to close your eyes. You're
gonna be locked in. You're notgonna open up your eyes. You're not
gonna say anything, but you're gonnabe locked in. And to be aware
of anything you might here. Feelthat kind of thing. Sound good,
sarm my hand. Imagine a ballof light goes up. Close your eyes
now good. I keep your headstraight forward. Good. Imagine as if
you're still looking at Tie. AndI want you to imagine as if there's

(32:49):
a connection here between both of you, because Ty, you did say this
is the connection you feel here ina moment, you might feel me touch
you. If you feel me touchyou, Big, don't say anything.
It might be on the shoulder,maybe the army be the back. All
I want you to do is rememberit. Sound good? Perfect? Deep
breath in deep breath out, deepbreath in, keep breath out, beg.

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Did you feel me touch you,yester know, with your right hand?
Can you show us how many timesyou felt it with my right hand?
Yeah? I felt it like thisthree Open up your eyes one hundred
percent. You felt me touch youon the nose three times? You will
bet you were the witness the wholetime. Did I touch them on the

(33:42):
nose? Touch my nose? Twotones like this and you felt it?
Yeah? That was nuts, didthe same thing. I still understand how
more than one person could do thisour job? Serious? Yeah, what

(34:05):
are you doing? It felt likea piece of why you got it up?
Because you know I wasn't gonna dostuff with cars because you as a
mentalist, mice can hear us.Yeah, as a mentalist, I don't
really like to use cards as muchbecause I'm forced confusing people like is it
magic? Is it mentalism? Right? But I use these differently. I

(34:25):
don't use them like to find itslid a hand. I use these different
symbols to get inside people's beads.Yeah, you play cards at all?
I could play cards. You good? You got a good poker face?
Try your bad? Show us yourpoker face. That's a pretty damn good
poker. Are these all different?Yes, Yes, we're gonna start super

(34:47):
light. Okay, have you reachand take one up. It's not gonna
be a magic turken gonna find You'regonna hold it right to your chest,
Okay, wherever you want. Don'tfeel forced anyone that you want. Anybody
live in. Yeah, and againI didn't show you. These are all
different. Yeah, perfect, Yeah, anyone anyone you want. Thank you

(35:13):
good. Look at it. Don'teven let me see you and tell me
when you're good. I'm just gonnaturn to face you. Yeah. And
I like he's hiding it too,because he wants to make sure there's no
marks, none of that. Ilike it. Good stuff. Yeah,
you can hide it too. Iwant you to lock in for a moment.
Don't say anything, just lock andimagine you can see the car right
here, and then I say somestuff. Don't react, okay, yea
in your head tell me what thecar is. Don't react, don't say

(35:36):
anything all out. I can imagineit was. There's an ace two,
three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine ten, Jack
Queen King Club's Heart Spades. It'sthe diamonds. Yeah, you do you
know why subconscious see when you sawin your subconscious that is the thing one

(36:00):
in fifty two. It's okay,right, it's okay. Yeah, let's
make it better because you did sayyou like to play some cars, So
let's make it better. Imagine wewere to play poker, right, Imagine
we were Take a chunk, achunk of where you like. It's kind
of I'm like wow. He waslike, motion, man, we need

(36:24):
to go. They did a longtime ago. Take take a chunk anywhere
you like anywhere? Okay, achunk. What's the emotion? Hit for
it? I can't say anywhere youlike a chunk? Take them, Shuffle
them, shuffle, shuffle, shuffle. Do you want to hold on to

(36:45):
the car? Yes? Mix themup, mix them up, but make
them make sure like the camera doesn'tsee anything me guessing one card one and
fifty two is good. See pickedup those cards. He likes cars.
Is why I gotta do this.Stare at all of them. Stare at
all of them and imagine getting amental image of each. Like I said,

(37:06):
it's all about the subconscious mind.Get a mental images each and every
card that you see. Sincerely,stare at them for one moment suspended disbelief.
Look at everything there. Good,Yes, once, it's good.
Hold them to your chest. Okay, what't you look back at me?
Now, say it in your mind, each and every card you don't remember.

(37:28):
You don't remember them. Okay,that's fine. We'll do it this
way. Look back at the cards. Look, well, we're gonna do
is. I'm gonna have my handface up like this. I'm gonna say
the cards I feel you're looking atthe cars that are there. If it's
there, we're gonna put a faceup for everyone to see. If it's
not there, you drop all thecards on the forest. Tell me I
suck. Okay, okay, I'mgonna get every single one. Look at

(37:50):
all of them. Okay, goback. You just saw seven of hearts.
You can put a seven of heartsright there for me. Yeah,
there we go, seven hearts rightthere. Good, look at each and
everyone. Good. Hold it toyour chests for once. I just got
to look right back at your face, your eyes. Look back at the
cards again. Four diamonds you sawon the right side or something like that.

(38:10):
Maybe it's my right yeah, fourdiamonds. Yeah, look through the
cards again. Look through them.Okay, This is the card that made
him smile. He was smiling atme when he looked at me because it
was the familiarity with the Ace ofdiamonds. That's the Ace of clubs.
Yeah yeah, okay, yeah,look through all the cards. Look through
all the cards. We're gonna goquick. Now. How many cards do
we have left? Or nine ofclubs? Yeah yeah, yeah, Jack

(38:35):
of spades too. Yeah, yousaw the Jack of Spades too, and
I thenk this word smiled too.Was the Queen of diamonds. Seven of
clubs? Yeah? Oh my god. Oh yeah, bro, you can't
teach nobody what name you're thinking of? Time? Yeah, yeah, let's

(39:00):
let's let's try. Hey, canyou do the first kids with time?
Hey? Times? Can he dothe first kids with you? Yeah?
You cool that being revealed the firstkids? Yeah? He did mind many,
Hey do my first kids. Helooked at me and he like say

(39:21):
thank you. Didn't it didn't winJonathan. I was like, oh my
god, the first kids. Let'sdo this now. Everyone at home.
You know, I've seen it onsocial media. They're always like yo,
they're just playing around, they're justfaking it. I want you to commit
to it. Don't show me.Don't show the camera. This is our
proof at the end. Whatever hername was in big capital letters right there.

(39:43):
And then when you're done, foldit up and hold it right there.
Okay, but don't show anyone.Okay, big capital letters there,
just so that you can show thecamera at the end here that I don't
see. So don't show anyone now, don't show anyone. Now, that's
our proof at the end. Okay. So he's writing down what he and
this is where he feels is hisfirst kids because ty dolla signing he was

(40:04):
around as a youngster. Because Idon't know what my first kiss is.
Yeah, you got it, good, hold it up, now, hold
this up, yep. I wantyou to see something. My head turned.
You can't see through this now onesecond before anything. Stare right at

(40:27):
it again. Where is this here? Look at that? It's right here?
Yes, yes, I want youto stare at it. Get him
mental and make sure nobody sees it. Yes, yeah, good, good,
yes good. You can't see throughany of this, yes, nothing,
no, nothing. Can you dome a favor. I want you
to on the back of this,okay, or somewhere I want you to
put a little image, a littlesymbol that you can keep sound good anywhere

(40:52):
you like, like any symbol,a symbol, you hold it up again,
perfect, put in your pocket.That's what we're gonna We're gonna create
a little scenario. You say you'rekind of uncertain with this. Yeah,

(41:12):
yeah, but you you have somethingin your head. I know she was
one of her first Okay, okay, okay, maybe we've got a lock
in a bit different. Can youfocus on you got a lock in this
way? Because you're not A fewnames are come in my mind. I
don't know why, like Ashley andstuff. I don't know if that even
means anything whatever, whatever that is, don't say anything. I have a

(41:36):
couple. Yeah, see that's whyyou're confusing me. Now mhm, okay,
let's do h Just think of thename for me. Okay, think

(41:57):
of a letter somewhere in the middle. M changing. We got a few
luck on there we go. That'sthe one say that now thing Okay,
I don't I don't know, Imight I might be off. Put that

(42:24):
right here for now? Is thatfairy could have been anything. It could
have been anyone. Literally, now, I want to show you something about
fate right because you didn't see whatwe did before all this, we had,
we had a long top of whatthe people we meet, the decisions
we have. Essentially faith fate dictateswhere we go? Or is it the

(42:45):
decision we meet the dictates where wego? What do you believe in a
definitely decisions. That's a butterfly factthat you caught that time? Is everything
right? The people we meet,the thoughts we have, the decisions we
make. They just where we aretoday, in that time, right place,
right time. I'm gonna go forone more piece of infant I committed

(43:06):
there. You could show everybody whatit was I committed. You could show
everybody no, no, no,no on yours? Yeah right, I'm
running out, bro, I don'teven know I'll catch this interview today.
Shure, that's what is it?It's Megan crazy? What do you mean

(43:30):
crazy? Wait? Wait wait Itold you, right place, right time,
right Yeah, look at me.Think of an m we're gonna do

(43:51):
feeling. Man, hold these inyour hands like this. If you had
the name of number right now betweenone and one in fifty two, if
you have to think of a number, okay, mhm, well what would

(44:16):
it be? One in fifty two? What would the number be right,
and that could have been influenced andall of that. Remember I told you
time is every thing, right?Yeah, see on a time where you
can start it and stop it,start it and stop. We have all
those milli seconds. Yeah, Iwant you to start it for me.

(44:36):
Good. I want you to staredown there and you can stop whenever you
like. Whenever you want, youcan hit style. We're gonna go with
the milliseconds. What is that thirtyone? Is that random? Honestly speaking,
is at random? I thought itthirty one before I thought it twenty
five? Yeah? Interesting? Howthat is from the top? I want
you to count thirty count thirty onecars from the top? Yeah, one

(44:59):
and two, three four, Hey, can't start from the top of game?
Tie and put them on? Canyou put them on the Dame table?
Absolutely? One, two, three, four, five, six,
seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty one,
twenty two, twenty three, twentyfour, twenty five, twenty six,

(45:20):
twenty seven, twenty nine, thirtythirty one? What's at thirty one?
King of Spades? And you saidyou thought of thirty one first coincidentally,
you stopped where you initially thought.See before all of us. I
wrote two things down, and Iwant you to see so the second thing

(45:42):
I wrote down. Do you seewhat that is? King of Spades,
It's exact thing you stopped at,Megan, was the very first thing I
wrote down right there? What ButI want to op this with you.

(46:07):
No, I want this with youone more time time. What do you
feel like? That's why I shouldhave opened the thing first. I want
to save the surprise to the Kingof Spades, like you're good at that
part. But the Megan, yousure you didn't write that? No,
No, I'm gonna prove it toyou. I'm gonna prove it to you.
This is the best way we cando it. Go to Google for

(46:27):
me. I'm gonna look something upon your phone. I don't want touch
anything. Gonna put the phone there. Okay, do you have your phone
too? Yeah? Go to Googlefor me. Perfect, look at me.
Okay, lead this cheer. Yeah, now we're here. Yeah,

(47:05):
we're looking at before. I likethat. That's pretty good. Now.
If we were to play a littleassociation game, a little association if I
were to say red, what comesto mind, Blue, Okay. If
I were to say, music,what comes to mind? Michael Jackson?
Perfect. Now if I were tosay, now, I want you to

(47:27):
type anything you want now, thefirst thing that pops in your head h
search images pop up, genuinely speaking, right, and now I committed.
I commit. That's see what itis. I committed. It's fine.

(47:53):
Is that random? Honest? Itmeans there anybody I could have known that
we're gonna lock into that. Honestly, how do you what do you mean?
And I wanted to use your phonesso you know I'm not doing anything.
Yeah, that's your phone. Idon't want to touch anything. You
have a look what I looked upon her phone before this, and that's

(48:23):
what's on your phone. Oh mygod. Man, yes, a man
tie down with you. He's ajob bro am. Kevin Hamden, thank

(48:44):
you so much, broken for cominginto the neighborhood. Man. So is
this a gift, Kevin? Oris this something that's to learn? This
is something that's learned. I spentmy whole life learning this practice in this
from a young age to an extentas well. Right at the end of
the day, this is show businesstoo, so you do have to have
it in you to be that entertainer, right, if you're not, if

(49:04):
you're not an entertaining person, ifyou can't captivate an artist, if you
can't grab people, then unfortunately,it's going to be a lot harder to
get people's attention out and especially whenwe're doing shows. Right in my profession,
we make a living by performing,having corporate events privates that kind of
thing. If you're not entertaining,unfortunately, it's gonna be a lot harder
to get out there and book moreshows. Got you, So that's that's
the thing too. Obviously everything canbe learned, Obviously everything can be practiced,

(49:28):
like the show business side and theentertaining side. But to an extent
too, I think if you havethat that love, you can't and you
can't teach someone personality. I remember, I truly believe. I remember years
ago the guy to hire me intoradio, he said, I could teach
you radio, but I can't teachyou personality, Like you can learn to
be a mentalist, but that deliveryand the personality and the showmanship, you

(49:50):
can't really teach that. Yeah,And that's what I was intrigued by by
watching watching your your videos and watchingwhat you do on social media as well.
Now you said, how does someonelearn in this? How does someone
do this? Right? Now?It's with anything, right, you said,
you have a wife, Yes,yes, Now when she walks into
the room upset, do you haveto Does she have to say anything for
you to know she's upset? No? No, why you could just see

(50:10):
it in a man of rhism's attitude. You can just see. And that's
how this is to write. Withpractice, you start to learn how people
think. You start to see thepatterns in which people think. Yeah,
you know, it's it's at ayoung age, right, starting and doing
this. It started with cards,but it was never like the magic with
cards. You know, that sleightof hand stuff, Like obviously down the
line you learn that just because that'skind of the prerequisite when you get into
the art. But it wasn't anythingthat gravitated towards me. Because at the

(50:35):
end of the day, you seesomething that slight of hand, what do
people say when they see that,that's some good slight of hand man?
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that'snot magic, right, that's not real.
I like that feeling that connection withpeople on the mentalism side, because
that is the most real thing youcan feel man. Is this something that
mentalists have in place and you're justlearning these or is this something that you

(50:55):
can create a new experience or anew trick. I guess there's it's a
combination of both. Obviously, atthe end of the day, you stand
on the shoulder of giants. Ithink in every industry you do right,
in music, in magic, inanything, fighting UFC, all that we
all stand on the shoulders of giants. So at the end of the day,
the legends kind of set the pave, set the stone for all of

(51:17):
us, right, and it's it'son us to make it better. Right.
There's a lot of people that willjust take something and do it verbatim.
I'd rather do it my way,do it a way that I can
kind of make it my own.But truthfully, I spend a lot of
time creating my own stuff too,because at the end of the day,
it's that connection with people that Itruly believe. People buy into people and
how do they find you on Instagram, dot Com or whatever it may be?

(51:42):
Everything every social media is just myname, Kevin Hampden h A M
D A N exactly Kevin Hamden.Like I say, I saw you on
Instagram, on social media. Ihad to have you in the neighborhood,
bro, Thank you right and I'mjust wrapping up this part. I'm taking
you home with me. Kevin Hamdenin the neighborhood, mental Is Kevin Hamden
in the neigh her Big Boy's neighborHood Topp