June 28, 2019 • 31 mins
It’s a party for your ears! Cody Alan is celebrating his 100th episode of the Cody Cast podcast. Kelleigh Bannen stops by for the special conversation where she turns the tables on Cody and puts our host in the hot seat to give A’s to her Q’s. Listen in on this fun chat and celebrate alongside us as Cody revisits top moments from his career, highlights from his favorite radio interviews, and even shares some pretty serious confessions. Kelleigh Bannen doesn't scrimp on the good stuff in her interviewing skills, or in her new single “Deluxe.” Check it out HERE.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Cody Cast This Cody Allen's podcast Can You
Believe in our one hundred podcast? Whenever we put to
this one hund episode, we thought to ourselves and the
crew and the team here at CMT was like, Oh,
should we like have someone a special guest come in
and interview you, maybe someone from the past episode so
(00:21):
you really loved uh. And I'm like, well, that'd be great.
Who who would you like that to be? And so
we narrowed down the list to one person, and that
would be Kelly Bannon, who is here. Actually, if I
was one of your I mean, I am one of
your listeners, but if I was one of your listeners
listening right now, I'd be like, let it be Dolly,
Let it be Dolly. And then they just got really sad. Yeah,
(00:43):
but you know what I would be. I'm a little
nervous now because I know you're gonna turn the tables
on me in a second and ask questions about me
and whatever. But I also think that, uh, I would
be so nervous around Dolly to like the tenth degree.
Whereas I feel like we've been friends for a while,
we know each other really well. I know your husband,
We go way back, not me and your husband, but
(01:04):
me and you. Actually they y'all go all the way
back to whatever a c N that was where you
were sitting next to That's right, we were sitting next
to each other at an awards show, a c M Awards,
and we got to know each other then, which was awesome,
and and I've kept in touch over the years, and
then I fell in love with your music because after
that I started discovering like how incredible you are as
a singer, songwriter, performer. Um, and I'm just a huge
(01:26):
fan outside of being friends, and so I just feel
a good friendship and camaraderie and there's a good chemistry
and I feel it more more at ease than I
would be if it was like a Dolly person, because
that that would just be I mean, also, that would
be amazing, amazing. But yeah, I'm I am so honored
and so flattered that you guys thought of me. And
I'm a little scared too, because I'm like, this is
(01:49):
not my it's like not my show, and I don't
want to I want to do a good job. But anyway, yeah,
well you can ask anything. You know this by now,
I'm just a blank sheet of paper. Um, help, No,
you're a paper with many words on it, but I
mean transparent, like a sheet of paper would be like
it would be. Well, let's move on question number one,
(02:13):
Kelly go okay, so now I'm now, I'm now I'm scared.
Um so I really okay? If this was my show,
which form it is? I would want to know? I
want to know, like get us started? What were like
the how did you first get into radio? How did
you know you were interested in it? Was there music
in your home? Like? How did why music? How? How
(02:35):
radio start us off? There? My dad was a big
music fan, so I grew up around music constantly. He
listened to everything from you know, seventies rock and roll,
Billy Joel, Elton, John Too, you know, I remember early
eighties country like Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, John Conley, you
know all these people who were like big in the
early eighties, and I grew up around that. In the mornings,
(02:56):
my mom would make breakfast every morning, God bless her, Yeah, uh,
and we would she'd played country music, so I was
exposed to it, and uh, I fell in love with
radio because of all those experiences. My dad love radio obviously, so,
and I love the stories that you know, Ricky's would
tell about the you know, pop artists who were making
it big on the charts or whatever. And I fell
in love with Bob Kingsley, who was the country of
(03:18):
course icon radio icon who tells the stories about the
country artists we're making it so, um yeah, there was
like this early like love for all that magic. Gonna
be just completely honest. I hate this. I hate talking
about myself. Oh my gosh, but you're so endearing and
like interesting to listen to and you have such great stories.
I appreciate that. But I'm not trying to be super humble.
(03:39):
I'm just saying, like it's hard. Yeah, I don't like
being in the opposite of like what I usually do. Well,
what's funny is for me. And sometimes I've had people
give me the feedback like, oh, you're not you're you
don't seem like an artist. I think there's and that
sometimes has eaten me up a little bit, like because
I love to turn the tables and ask questions or
like or sometimes I am love being on in the
(04:01):
spotlight on stage, but like I don't want to be
in the spotlight at every dinner or like at every
in every conversation, I just want to hang And so
I I find that you can like just being curious
about people. It takes the spotlight off of you really quickly, right,
So sometimes it's almost like a defense mechanism. Enjoyed that
I enjoyed turning the spotlight on other people. I like
finding out about other people. I've been reading this book
(04:22):
about Johnny carson Um and it's so interesting and I've
been following a little more closely, like what he he
did and what was special about him, And yes, he
was funny and charismatic and uh likable. But the one
thing that he consistently did that I think I do
also is that uh he made his guests feel comfortable
and always love to shine the light on them. And
(04:46):
I think that kind of is how I feel about
And that's what I love about this is is the
opportunity to do that. So when it's when it's the
spotlight's on me, I just don't it's not as fun
to me. Interesting. Well then, maybe because I was going
to ask you later about kind of what do you
think maybe like your superpower is in this role or
like how do you do like how do you do
a great interview, And so I do think that from
(05:09):
my experience working with you, you do really try to
put people at ease in like you know, but I
mean one that that's the way to get the best
interview right when they can like let their guard down
a little bit. But like, what do you think your
gift is? They're just like I think it is just
being at ease with yourself to some degree making people
feel at ease with you that you're not gonna be
(05:32):
You're gonna be prepared enough to ask the right questions
and not be a complete dingling when they come in here,
Like I'm not gonna be their Wikipedia, I'm going to
have some my my I have questions prepared and thankful
for an amazing team who writes great stuff for me too.
That helps formulate kind of thought process of where we
go with things. A lot of people on radio move
(05:53):
around a lot um do you have? I mean, I
know you were like you can find something that you
like in each of those places, but is there any
were there any favorite stops or is there anything you
miss from any of those cities that you love? Texas?
Texas was awesome, great place, lots to do their um,
but very hot. I mean, I don't miss that about Texas.
Super duper hot news splash y'all, Texas is hot, but really,
(06:16):
but when you step off the plane, you're like, oh, no,
different kind of hot. Salt Lake City, which I loved,
the great place, super clean. I love the mountains there,
so I definitely it is super clean, beautifully they're like
well kept. Oh no, I missed the mountains there. I
missed sort of. That's amazing waking up and seeing out
your back door that every day. But Nashville I've learned.
(06:39):
And I didn't love Nashville at first. It took me
a little while. Oh tell me about that. Yeah, it
was when you first moved here. What was were you? Like?
There was nothing downtown when I moved here. Besides that,
I love food. I hate the word foodie because I
think it sounds as stupid, but um, foodie. It's like
it's like wifey. Does Jeff ever call you wifee? No? Wrong?
(07:02):
Yeah he does call me pooky, but that's like an
ironic pet name, like like we're going to make fun
of people to have pet names and like pooky, But yeah,
he would never actually would be like so surprised, if
he called me wifey. You've met Jeff. He's like a
very like he cares deeply for people, but you don't
(07:23):
get a lot of warm and fuzzies from him, Like
he's pretty sure. I thought for the first two hours
of dinner with Jeff that he just hated me, just
like I was trying so hard to break the and
I think we finally did. And you know what I
actually think brought y'all to like the most rapport with
Jeff was we were like, because we just like renovated
(07:46):
our house and we were we hadn't furnished the room
that we really were hanging in in the kitchen, and
I was like, you know, guys, we were kind of
like hanging there after dinner. I was like, this doesn't
feel that cozy, Like what could we do to make
this room feel more cozy? Let's ask the gays what
we would do for better interior design. I get it,
I get it. Sure the gays will know what could
(08:07):
do here, and they did. You were both I feel
like in Unison and You're like, maybe this light needs
a dimmer. The light was yes, everything, And honestly, it
was this rad light fixture that I was so proud
of his little sputnik kind of really cool. It's really cool,
but damn, isn't come over. Not only that, but we
(08:32):
also have like, um, I got kiddel till I got
real excited about it. I'm now yelling, um, we have
like a Chase sofa lounge e situa l shaped sofa situation.
So it's like you can actually like chill and like
laid back and relax and drink your you know whatever
(08:52):
post dinner drink. But seriously, but you know what, that
was a turning point because in that in that night,
I think we all were kind of like on our
behavior oddly enough, just because like I knew you and
Trey maybe my tray once and Jeff didn't really know
either of y'all, and it did it felt like an
awkward double date until y'all were like this froom needs
(09:13):
a demmer, and I think Jeff was like, oh, like
now we're being honest. This is awesome. And so that
that was like, yeah, yeah, isn't it you when you
get real, it's when everything starts to change. This isn't it.
I can look back and since we're talking about the
gay thing, I think that um, certainly that coming out
process and getting real really bothered me to not only
(09:38):
the people who love me and know me already in
this room and beyond, but also to the audience. Like
I felt like there was a changing to the listener,
to the viewer who sees me on TV, that whether
they agree or not, there was a bond that happened,
Like he's I know who he is now I get it.
He's a real person. That vulnerability, the vulnerability like admitting
(10:00):
something that maybe you thought would hold you back that
actually becomes exactly what you needed. This is getting so deep.
Do you want me to lighten it up? Do you
need me to lighten it up? But I do have
a couple just like questions about like your job, if
that's is that? Like is there like tell me about
(10:21):
I was wondering what artists think about what we do
on this side of things. Well, see, I just think
you know all the secrets, Like you know, if somebody
comes in like with a nasty attitude or like yelling
at their whoever on the phone, and then they like
clean it all up and you know, do the interview,
Like honestly, y'all know all the stuff. Can we talk
(10:44):
about the transition to TV was see him to your
first gig that involved TV. It really was, what's the
biggest difference. Did you have any insecurities about starting down
that path? Or we want to know everything? Tell us everything? Well,
I mean, I've doesn't read you forever. So when it
seemed he called and they were in hopes of doing
(11:05):
radio audio our shows, and I was of courts all
about doing that with no intentions about doing television at all,
really know, and I think when they hired me, um,
they were sort of like, we don't this, this is
about radio radio so um. But then you know, people
started noticing around that I wasn't uh that ugly tell us.
(11:31):
Was it the shirtless selfies that won them over? Or
this only came later to talk about this, take those
shortley selfies to get the job in TV at CMT.
Just um, I would love it if CMT like makes
you send over your measurements. Yeah, the producers in the
(11:53):
building we're like, oh, maybe we'll try you for this
or that. And so I started kind of trickling into
things that were on CMT and then um, eventually they
wanted to change up their countdown show, and um, I
thought that I would be good at that, and so
that's how it all kind of came together when they
switched everything over to what we call hot twenty now.
(12:13):
Often thought when I was a kid that I wanted
to be like a weatherman on TV. So I loved
I would when when are we going to have that
CMT weatherman segment? Exactly, Kelly, let's make that happen. I
find both to be like so fun. I love both
of them, and I've learned you know how to do TV.
I think pretty good. Yeah, I think you yeah yeah,
(12:35):
And I enjoyed doing it really comfortable. You look really
at ease. Thank you. You still seem like yourself. That's
hard for me when a camera's When the camera's on,
I'm like, I'm like, why am I acting like a weirdo? Oh?
Wait I am a weirdo. Oh that's why I know.
But it's just something. I don't know. What's the biggest
(12:55):
difference as far as just like production East like like
Liken have good lighting. Um lighting is everything. The ladies
know that. I think television is very much like radio.
The biggest difference for me is that radio is like this,
like with this conversation we're having where it's very raw
and we're not rewinding, going and editing back later. Where
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it's television, there's a lot of that where they have
to get the angles right and if that something is
not right, you go back into it again. There's a
lot of repetition and there's a lot of waiting in
anything TV or movie related. That is so true. That's
true with music videos too. Yeah, just so much standing around.
Do you wait, wait, wait, wait, wait for your thirty
seconds or whatever it is, and then you knock it
(13:36):
out and then you wait again for the next thirty
seconds for another couple of well, and I think that
is one of the elements that adds to maybe why
it's a little more less comfortable, is because you're stand around.
Go you've been waiting, and then you know, at least
turn it on and yeah, and then turn it back
off again, then be ready to turn back on a
couple of hours. No, it's true. I'm not good at
like sitting around. What do you do when you're just like,
(13:58):
are you what's your what you're busy? I guess you
get on the phone, you check emails, you go through
the Instagram, you do the Graham again, you flipped the
gram you scroll some more the gram. I had to
move the gram to like my third page of apps
recently because I was just like, I don't need to
be on stories as much. I'm literally just why. And
(14:18):
then I think about like one of my friend's mom's
who I know follows me, and she like, when did
Kelly turned into such a narcissist? She's just like storying
herself at Starbucks, you know, but that's playing in my head.
I'm like, I need to just cut down on that.
Tell me more about that because the judge, the judge
voice in my head. Yeah, well the third page thing,
does that help? Well? Yeah, because then you have to
(14:39):
it's like just an extra step. But I didn't y'all
notice I didn't go ahead and delete the app off
of my phone. I just moved it so that like
when I need to post something work related or like,
you know, we had music coming out. But I was
just feeling like, I was like, why, what do you do?
Because it's inevitable when you're this visible, there's gonna be
negative comments and there's gonna be like column haters, calm whatever.
(15:04):
There's going to be like the trash comment. How do
you handle that I'm not really good at it. I
don't think that. I think it affects me. If I'm honest,
I don't. I don't. I read it and then it
makes me think something about myself. And I think that
most people don't admit that. They say, oh, I don't
care what people saying. I'm going to do my thing
totally hurt and totally hurts my feelings one. By the way,
(15:28):
most people don't want to I mean, they're like, I'm
gonna be who I am and I don't care if
I'm liked or not. I don't think I'm that guy.
I think I gotta want to be like, yeah, it's hard.
A lot of people tell me just don't engage, like
that's what they want. But there's a part of me
that's like, you know what, I get to use my
voice however I want, and if I want to say, hey, dude,
that's not cool, I recently like, I yeah, of course
(15:51):
my publicist is in the room. Um. There was some
like ugly talk after the CMT Awards on some of
the Instagram posts about like our friends and I won't
like I don't want to like start it. I like
bopped in there and was like, Hey, Linda, maybe he
just needed a second cup of coffee this morning, because
you seem real grouchy about you know, Like, but when
(16:13):
you start saying ugly things about my friends, what about Trey?
Howse he handles stuff? Or does he is he? Like?
Does he want? You know why? Because he has the
most perfect abs on the planet, honestly, Like, I hope
that I am not too creepy on your man's instead,
because I'm like, every time I get to see Trey's abs,
(16:35):
I'm like, yes, why am I not doing sit ups?
Just like I imagine living with I don't I can't
go there. I really shouldn't go there. In my brain
that would be Oh well, So okay, can we talk
about the shirtless selfie because in general, yeah, it's not
for for y'all or for you you know, for me,
(16:58):
I'm getting I feel like for me, it's it's like
it makes me again going back to the like thing perhaps,
like it makes me feel as I get older that
I still have it. You totally still have if not
just right on it and tell County he has it. Yeah,
but I think that you want to like in whatever way,
and it doesn't have to be a shirtless selfie, you
(17:19):
can be a sexy pose you with teach me some
of those later well, and you've got them on yours
to Kelly Bennett. Kelly Benn, It's really weird, though, how
much we are in front of the camera for the
jobs that we do. I find it really intimidating at times.
And isn't that one of the reasons why it works
on our world and perhaps many other people's as well,
(17:40):
Like it's sort of validates and sends people to be
interested in what it is that you do. And if
it sends people to listen to your music because you're
in some sexy pose, okay, what's wrong with that? You
know listening? You try to be classy with it as well,
And my mom taught me that, so, um, you still
have to be respect and be a man of integrity. Um,
(18:02):
and you can do that with also with your shirt
you can. Now I have a personal goal. My personal
goal is like I because okay, so everybody knows you
post a bikini pick, you get a lot of followers.
If you don't know that, ladies, and you're trying to
grow your followers apparently that is the key. But I
(18:23):
have a personal goal of like I'm not going to
do a bikini pick or a or a two piece pick,
although I am in like kind of a two piece
situation in my video that comes out tomorrow, but it's
like got a blazer over it, so it's not like
a bikini pick. My My goal is I don't want
to do one of those until I'm on the cover
of a fitness magazine. If I'm on the cover of
a fitness magazine, I want that to be my first
(18:43):
like bikini pick. I don't know if we're gonna get
there because I'm aging rapidly, but anyway, you got me
interested in the video now, so you know it's definitely
out of my week. So we shot four videos for
the music that's coming out over the summer. We're kind
of doing like a single a month um and there's
(19:04):
a video for all the songs. And we knocked him
out over a couple of days in New York and
one of the videos really pushing me out of my
comfort zone because it was like, really the first time
that I've had to interact like with like an actor
or a model, and like, I've been married for a
million years, so I'm not touching a lot of other men,
and it was like really intimidating, So that's coming out later.
(19:26):
But then this one, it would kind of we pushed
you to kiss him, no, but it honestly felt that
intimate cody like because you're inches away, and it was
more like it was kind of like a dancing scene
or like this scene where they're kind of holding each other,
and so it honestly felt as intimate or maybe more
than kissing. It was just and it kind of like
(19:47):
startled me just how like this is like a little scary,
like I'm not again, I'm not touching. I haven't been
touching a lot of other men for fifteen years and
there was never a lot of men, so um, it
definitely was like, you know, I was like, wow, okay,
this is I made the model. I was like, hi, um,
I'm not good at this and I'm going to drink
(20:08):
some bourbon now, would you like something? And that was
how we got through that scene and then but then
for Deluxe, it's it's more of a mood kind of
video than a like a real concept video, but it's
definitely one of the edgier things like I've worn and
I feel like there's a part of me that maybe
here's like whatever voice in my head that's like you're
(20:30):
not a model, like you don't, you shouldn't be whatever,
don't or even like maybe a judge side that's like
showing your body. Like so I have some fear about
it coming out and feeling also like I was texting
my manager on the way here, I'm like, so, we
can't pull the video right like CMTS premiering it tomorrow,
we probably can't pull the video because I'm in a
major spiral about like my body and like being in
(20:52):
this outfit on this video and like being too much
about that. And he was like stop, you know it's
it looks great, but he has to say that he's
my manager. I love that you're overthinking it. I can
overthink anything. That is my personal superpower. I love the
idea with the lux because it's really about that word
extra that everyone like somebody's extra, Like it's all about
(21:15):
being a little a little plus right, yes, And with
this couple, it's really like their love that's you know,
that is extra. But I love that we they're not
like rolling up in their roles with their like big
diamonds at their four seasons. They're like at the motel,
but they they're going to go hang by the pool,
you know, and they're like gonna like soak up that
(21:36):
air conditioning and that. You know. They're kind of like accessible.
It's like being extra in whatever you're lane is, you know.
So I kind of love that about this. That always
I kind of, um, it helps me to kind of
fall in love with the characters that I'm writing about.
And that was what was really fun about those characters.
It's not it's a little bit me and it's a
little bit Jeff and it was a little bit my
(21:58):
co writer Danielle and her husband, but it was also
like who are these characters and like let's just like
let them be themselves, you know, And that's really fun.
So did you write all the songs for the other
four that are coming out? Yeah? Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited.
I can't wait for you to hear them. So should
we do? Should I try and get these Cody Confessions in? Okay? Okay, okay?
(22:19):
The producer people are like, who is this girl? And
why is she here? Um? I think it's time old camp? Everybody?
Are we really doing it? Can we can we? Okay?
How long has this been? Sitting up there. I will
now get away from my mic and go whiskey. Okay
after a year okay, and are you I'm going to
(22:40):
drink after you? Okay. Do you see me aggressively moving
towards you? Who the moment of the podcast where we
start drinking, I taste like, oh, it's peach. It's good.
Actually he's giving me like a banana nut pecan or pecan? Is?
(23:02):
I grew up in South Carolina and we always say
peak can. Okay, this is a segment of the show
I like to call Cody confessions. Confessions from Cody. That
(23:23):
was beautiful whiskey. Okay. So these are fill in the blanky?
Have you been prepped for these? I won't said anything,
and I'm scared. No. No, um, I admit I've never
seen an episode of blank. Game of Thrones? Sorry, oh sorry, okay,
(23:44):
Well can we read the books? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't
know this about you. Yeah, it's so I need to
get into it. I just feel like I'm so far
behind Kelly. Here's what are And it's okay because that
means you've got like tons of time to disappear, and
I don't have uns of time? Is the problem? It's
like seventeen hundred hours. Is it that many hours? I
(24:04):
it seems like it would be. So you start with
one episode to see how it goes. UM. Last time
I got star struck was um, I know, I know
it was like an hour ago when you when you arrived.
When was the last time you got started? I? Um?
(24:26):
I think Ellen. I was star struck by Ellen. When
did you meet Ellen? Like a year ago? I would
be a puddle. Well. I got the introducer at a
um Brad Paisley benefit out in UH for the wildfire
relief efforts. I guess they both have homes in Santa
Monica area or whatever. Santa Monica, Santa Barbara is Oprah.
(24:48):
But I don't know about Santa Barbara Is that right?
I'm right, Santa Monica's near l A. I did say
hi to work. I said, you know, great to meet you.
Love what you do. I said all these things you're
supposed to say when you mean someone famous. I love
your work, blah blah blah. And then I said, but
I have to tell you like I'm gay, and she
said me too. It's like the most shocking, like oh
(25:15):
I am to me too, Like as if we don't
know because she's such an icon in the gay world.
But um but still that is hilarious. And then we
went on to talk about and so endearing country music
and how we don't have a lot of people who
speak up in our format and anyway, she was very
sweet and wonderful and um, yeah, she was great. It
was great. That was star struck, though a little nervous,
(25:37):
wildly star struck because also comedians are scary because they
have that ability to see the like most insecure part
of you and then use it for everyone else's enjoyment.
And that is a strike spere in my heart. I
feel like you've been using all my insecurities this past hour. Okay,
(25:57):
so one thing, one thing I could never be convinced
to do is I'm not a great swimmer. I don't
love water. I don't love deep water. But you love
showing us you're like. I love body, I love the beach.
I love to all the way up to where that
wet part touches the sand exactly. That's the part where
(26:18):
I stop. One word I'd like to eliminate from the
English languages I mentioned why imagined foodie, foodie. I don't
know why this is irritate me. I think it's because
this the E on the end, the just the playful
nature of them. H Hubby, Hubby, my husband. I'm like,
if I'm being I don't know if if I'm saying hey,
(26:39):
I'm gonna like yeah, but yeah, it's a little cheesy
maybe okay, And I'm gonna think it every time I
say my biggest regret is oh heavy? Who Ever wrote
the biggest regret? Your biggest regret? You know, I had
a tendency when I was young to buy cars muscle
like like fancy cars. No. I would just switch out
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cars too often. And I grew up in a really
thrifty home. My grandpa and my whole family was so
like penny pincers. So when I started making money, I
wanted to buy things, and I regret sometimes like passing
over an amazing for runner just because I wanted the
next thing, Like, I mean, I wish i'd kept that
(27:23):
four It's my point. So there's probably something like regrets
when it comes to like material things, where I like,
I wish you would have kept that. That's the thing
about material stuff, though, like it totally tells you you're
gonna be You're gonna be so happy when you have it,
and then you get it and you're like, like a
few months later, a few years later, you're like, okay, next,
And so I probably regret some of those decisions. It's
(27:46):
just that that's very silly. But still it's not a
big regret either. But that one food I've grown to
like is I like all foods, and there's never been
like a food. I mean, I really do. I like everything.
I'm really going through like beats. Yes, so it's Jeff
he loves beats. Uh. In the next five years, I
(28:07):
see myself making a hip hop album. Okay obviously, Okay,
me and little nas x um making some hip hop. Honestly,
can y'all get him on? Like the Countdown and you
don't call it that anymore? The hot twenty like that
(28:28):
would be the I would I would die. Okay, we'll
work on that. Um, let's get the booking department on
the phone. I like where what I'm doing. I think
I have a still long run left. You know, you
get insecure when you get a little bit older, and
maybe as an artist you can kind of feel some
of that, like when all the young twenty somethings are
(28:49):
coming up. You feel some insecurity because you're over thirty
or over forty, um, and so I feel so of that.
But I also feel like I'm really good at what
I do, and so I'd like to just continue doing
what I do, and I'm okay with that. I don't
feel like I have to like move another mountain in
order to feel satisfied with my life. I've really, as
you said, with kids, you know, I've gotten happy with myself.
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I feel some peace with you know, just about every
aspect of my life. There's probably a few things I
want to do next. You talk about marriage earlier, um,
But for the most part, when it comes to the
next five years, I feel really good about what I'm
doing and I'd like to continue and get better at
it if I can. So this is going to be
your already so amazing if I can get better at it.
(29:33):
So if I can't even get better better, but if like,
what have you learned over these first hundred episodes. So
with the podcast, what I love about it is it's
so it's so raw and it can be um. You
can peel back the layers a little bit more and
have a more intimate conversation with people. I loved doing
that forgetting that their microphones here. Sometimes it's really nice.
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Um do you do that? Does that happen for you
more and more? I think it does. I mean, I
think there's some a bit of show biz, especially when
we turn on the lights in this room and we
tape TV or whatever, like you feel okay, there's a
little more intimidation factor. But I think that that's what
all about the podcast is that you can kind of
some of that can be peeled away. You don't have
to worry about that as much, and there's a little
(30:17):
more realness. But you know, with a lot of the
podcasts that we do with their bigger name artists, you
don't always have an hour to really put things down
so um. But I think people really love to hear
from the Carrie Underwoods and the Luke Bryan's, even if
it's for a shorter period of time, um, and hear
how the whole conversation went. So often on the radio,
you hear uh Luke Bryan's song and you hear a
(30:37):
snippet from Luke Brian afterwards of him answering a question,
but you don't get the full scope of how the
conversation went. From beginning to end, but the moment you
you picked the phone as a real person, to the
moment the conversation ended. I think I love the podcast
allows you to hear all those moments and sometimes a
little bumpy, not always perfect, and I think some of
those are, you know, as a listener, really fun, endearing,
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Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. I don't know.
Everyone's like, are you gonna ever rap? Kelly? Are you
ever going to wrap up? You did a great job.
That was really good. You did a great job and
I learned so much. The Cody Confessions was my favorite
part of all because it was real and I felt
the whiskey helped. It totally helps. I felt we should
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have gotten the whiskey earlier. We should have So we'll
just start again. Okay, We're gonna start all over now.
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Welcome to Cody Cast This Cody Allen's podcast Can You
Believe in our one hundred podcast? Whenever we put to
this one hund episode, we thought to ourselves and the
crew and the team here at CMT was like, Oh,
should we like have someone a special guest come in
and interview you, maybe someone from the past episode so
(00:21):
you really loved uh. And I'm like, well, that'd be great.
Who who would you like that to be? And so
we narrowed down the list to one person, and that
would be Kelly Bannon, who is here. Actually, if I
was one of your I mean, I am one of
your listeners, but if I was one of your listeners
listening right now, I'd be like, let it be Dolly,
Let it be Dolly. And then they just got really sad. Yeah,
(00:43):
but you know what I would be. I'm a little
nervous now because I know you're gonna turn the tables
on me in a second and ask questions about me
and whatever. But I also think that, uh, I would
be so nervous around Dolly to like the tenth degree.
Whereas I feel like we've been friends for a while,
we know each other really well. I know your husband,
We go way back, not me and your husband, but
(01:04):
me and you. Actually they y'all go all the way
back to whatever a c N that was where you
were sitting next to That's right, we were sitting next
to each other at an awards show, a c M Awards,
and we got to know each other then, which was awesome,
and and I've kept in touch over the years, and
then I fell in love with your music because after
that I started discovering like how incredible you are as
a singer, songwriter, performer. Um, and I'm just a huge
(01:26):
fan outside of being friends, and so I just feel
a good friendship and camaraderie and there's a good chemistry
and I feel it more more at ease than I
would be if it was like a Dolly person, because
that that would just be I mean, also, that would
be amazing, amazing. But yeah, I'm I am so honored
and so flattered that you guys thought of me. And
I'm a little scared too, because I'm like, this is
(01:49):
not my it's like not my show, and I don't
want to I want to do a good job. But anyway, yeah,
well you can ask anything. You know this by now,
I'm just a blank sheet of paper. Um, help, No,
you're a paper with many words on it, but I
mean transparent, like a sheet of paper would be like
it would be. Well, let's move on question number one,
(02:13):
Kelly go okay, so now I'm now, I'm now I'm scared.
Um so I really okay? If this was my show,
which form it is? I would want to know? I
want to know, like get us started? What were like
the how did you first get into radio? How did
you know you were interested in it? Was there music
in your home? Like? How did why music? How? How
(02:35):
radio start us off? There? My dad was a big
music fan, so I grew up around music constantly. He
listened to everything from you know, seventies rock and roll,
Billy Joel, Elton, John Too, you know, I remember early
eighties country like Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, John Conley, you
know all these people who were like big in the
early eighties, and I grew up around that. In the mornings,
(02:56):
my mom would make breakfast every morning, God bless her, Yeah, uh,
and we would she'd played country music, so I was
exposed to it, and uh, I fell in love with
radio because of all those experiences. My dad love radio obviously, so,
and I love the stories that you know, Ricky's would
tell about the you know, pop artists who were making
it big on the charts or whatever. And I fell
in love with Bob Kingsley, who was the country of
(03:18):
course icon radio icon who tells the stories about the
country artists we're making it so, um yeah, there was
like this early like love for all that magic. Gonna
be just completely honest. I hate this. I hate talking
about myself. Oh my gosh, but you're so endearing and
like interesting to listen to and you have such great stories.
I appreciate that. But I'm not trying to be super humble.
(03:39):
I'm just saying, like it's hard. Yeah, I don't like
being in the opposite of like what I usually do. Well,
what's funny is for me. And sometimes I've had people
give me the feedback like, oh, you're not you're you
don't seem like an artist. I think there's and that
sometimes has eaten me up a little bit, like because
I love to turn the tables and ask questions or
like or sometimes I am love being on in the
(04:01):
spotlight on stage, but like I don't want to be
in the spotlight at every dinner or like at every
in every conversation, I just want to hang And so
I I find that you can like just being curious
about people. It takes the spotlight off of you really quickly, right,
So sometimes it's almost like a defense mechanism. Enjoyed that
I enjoyed turning the spotlight on other people. I like
finding out about other people. I've been reading this book
(04:22):
about Johnny carson Um and it's so interesting and I've
been following a little more closely, like what he he
did and what was special about him, And yes, he
was funny and charismatic and uh likable. But the one
thing that he consistently did that I think I do
also is that uh he made his guests feel comfortable
and always love to shine the light on them. And
(04:46):
I think that kind of is how I feel about
And that's what I love about this is is the
opportunity to do that. So when it's when it's the
spotlight's on me, I just don't it's not as fun
to me. Interesting. Well then, maybe because I was going
to ask you later about kind of what do you
think maybe like your superpower is in this role or
like how do you do like how do you do
a great interview, And so I do think that from
(05:09):
my experience working with you, you do really try to
put people at ease in like you know, but I
mean one that that's the way to get the best
interview right when they can like let their guard down
a little bit. But like, what do you think your
gift is? They're just like I think it is just
being at ease with yourself to some degree making people
feel at ease with you that you're not gonna be
(05:32):
You're gonna be prepared enough to ask the right questions
and not be a complete dingling when they come in here,
Like I'm not gonna be their Wikipedia, I'm going to
have some my my I have questions prepared and thankful
for an amazing team who writes great stuff for me too.
That helps formulate kind of thought process of where we
go with things. A lot of people on radio move
(05:53):
around a lot um do you have? I mean, I
know you were like you can find something that you
like in each of those places, but is there any
were there any favorite stops or is there anything you
miss from any of those cities that you love? Texas?
Texas was awesome, great place, lots to do their um,
but very hot. I mean, I don't miss that about Texas.
Super duper hot news splash y'all, Texas is hot, but really,
(06:16):
but when you step off the plane, you're like, oh, no,
different kind of hot. Salt Lake City, which I loved,
the great place, super clean. I love the mountains there,
so I definitely it is super clean, beautifully they're like
well kept. Oh no, I missed the mountains there. I
missed sort of. That's amazing waking up and seeing out
your back door that every day. But Nashville I've learned.
(06:39):
And I didn't love Nashville at first. It took me
a little while. Oh tell me about that. Yeah, it
was when you first moved here. What was were you? Like?
There was nothing downtown when I moved here. Besides that,
I love food. I hate the word foodie because I
think it sounds as stupid, but um, foodie. It's like
it's like wifey. Does Jeff ever call you wifee? No? Wrong?
(07:02):
Yeah he does call me pooky, but that's like an
ironic pet name, like like we're going to make fun
of people to have pet names and like pooky, But yeah,
he would never actually would be like so surprised, if
he called me wifey. You've met Jeff. He's like a
very like he cares deeply for people, but you don't
(07:23):
get a lot of warm and fuzzies from him, Like
he's pretty sure. I thought for the first two hours
of dinner with Jeff that he just hated me, just
like I was trying so hard to break the and
I think we finally did. And you know what I
actually think brought y'all to like the most rapport with
Jeff was we were like, because we just like renovated
(07:46):
our house and we were we hadn't furnished the room
that we really were hanging in in the kitchen, and
I was like, you know, guys, we were kind of
like hanging there after dinner. I was like, this doesn't
feel that cozy, Like what could we do to make
this room feel more cozy? Let's ask the gays what
we would do for better interior design. I get it,
I get it. Sure the gays will know what could
(08:07):
do here, and they did. You were both I feel
like in Unison and You're like, maybe this light needs
a dimmer. The light was yes, everything, And honestly, it
was this rad light fixture that I was so proud
of his little sputnik kind of really cool. It's really cool,
but damn, isn't come over. Not only that, but we
(08:32):
also have like, um, I got kiddel till I got
real excited about it. I'm now yelling, um, we have
like a Chase sofa lounge e situa l shaped sofa situation.
So it's like you can actually like chill and like
laid back and relax and drink your you know whatever
(08:52):
post dinner drink. But seriously, but you know what, that
was a turning point because in that in that night,
I think we all were kind of like on our
behavior oddly enough, just because like I knew you and
Trey maybe my tray once and Jeff didn't really know
either of y'all, and it did it felt like an
awkward double date until y'all were like this froom needs
(09:13):
a demmer, and I think Jeff was like, oh, like
now we're being honest. This is awesome. And so that
that was like, yeah, yeah, isn't it you when you
get real, it's when everything starts to change. This isn't it.
I can look back and since we're talking about the
gay thing, I think that um, certainly that coming out
process and getting real really bothered me to not only
(09:38):
the people who love me and know me already in
this room and beyond, but also to the audience. Like
I felt like there was a changing to the listener,
to the viewer who sees me on TV, that whether
they agree or not, there was a bond that happened,
Like he's I know who he is now I get it.
He's a real person. That vulnerability, the vulnerability like admitting
(10:00):
something that maybe you thought would hold you back that
actually becomes exactly what you needed. This is getting so deep.
Do you want me to lighten it up? Do you
need me to lighten it up? But I do have
a couple just like questions about like your job, if
that's is that? Like is there like tell me about
(10:21):
I was wondering what artists think about what we do
on this side of things. Well, see, I just think
you know all the secrets, Like you know, if somebody
comes in like with a nasty attitude or like yelling
at their whoever on the phone, and then they like
clean it all up and you know, do the interview,
Like honestly, y'all know all the stuff. Can we talk
(10:44):
about the transition to TV was see him to your
first gig that involved TV. It really was, what's the
biggest difference. Did you have any insecurities about starting down
that path? Or we want to know everything? Tell us everything? Well,
I mean, I've doesn't read you forever. So when it
seemed he called and they were in hopes of doing
(11:05):
radio audio our shows, and I was of courts all
about doing that with no intentions about doing television at all,
really know, and I think when they hired me, um,
they were sort of like, we don't this, this is
about radio radio so um. But then you know, people
started noticing around that I wasn't uh that ugly tell us.
(11:31):
Was it the shirtless selfies that won them over? Or
this only came later to talk about this, take those
shortley selfies to get the job in TV at CMT.
Just um, I would love it if CMT like makes
you send over your measurements. Yeah, the producers in the
(11:53):
building we're like, oh, maybe we'll try you for this
or that. And so I started kind of trickling into
things that were on CMT and then um, eventually they
wanted to change up their countdown show, and um, I
thought that I would be good at that, and so
that's how it all kind of came together when they
switched everything over to what we call hot twenty now.
(12:13):
Often thought when I was a kid that I wanted
to be like a weatherman on TV. So I loved
I would when when are we going to have that
CMT weatherman segment? Exactly, Kelly, let's make that happen. I
find both to be like so fun. I love both
of them, and I've learned you know how to do TV.
I think pretty good. Yeah, I think you yeah yeah,
(12:35):
And I enjoyed doing it really comfortable. You look really
at ease. Thank you. You still seem like yourself. That's
hard for me when a camera's When the camera's on,
I'm like, I'm like, why am I acting like a weirdo? Oh?
Wait I am a weirdo. Oh that's why I know.
But it's just something. I don't know. What's the biggest
(12:55):
difference as far as just like production East like like
Liken have good lighting. Um lighting is everything. The ladies
know that. I think television is very much like radio.
The biggest difference for me is that radio is like this,
like with this conversation we're having where it's very raw
and we're not rewinding, going and editing back later. Where
(13:15):
it's television, there's a lot of that where they have
to get the angles right and if that something is
not right, you go back into it again. There's a
lot of repetition and there's a lot of waiting in
anything TV or movie related. That is so true. That's
true with music videos too. Yeah, just so much standing around.
Do you wait, wait, wait, wait, wait for your thirty
seconds or whatever it is, and then you knock it
(13:36):
out and then you wait again for the next thirty
seconds for another couple of well, and I think that
is one of the elements that adds to maybe why
it's a little more less comfortable, is because you're stand around.
Go you've been waiting, and then you know, at least
turn it on and yeah, and then turn it back
off again, then be ready to turn back on a
couple of hours. No, it's true. I'm not good at
like sitting around. What do you do when you're just like,
(13:58):
are you what's your what you're busy? I guess you
get on the phone, you check emails, you go through
the Instagram, you do the Graham again, you flipped the
gram you scroll some more the gram. I had to
move the gram to like my third page of apps
recently because I was just like, I don't need to
be on stories as much. I'm literally just why. And
(14:18):
then I think about like one of my friend's mom's
who I know follows me, and she like, when did
Kelly turned into such a narcissist? She's just like storying
herself at Starbucks, you know, but that's playing in my head.
I'm like, I need to just cut down on that.
Tell me more about that because the judge, the judge
voice in my head. Yeah, well the third page thing,
does that help? Well? Yeah, because then you have to
(14:39):
it's like just an extra step. But I didn't y'all
notice I didn't go ahead and delete the app off
of my phone. I just moved it so that like
when I need to post something work related or like,
you know, we had music coming out. But I was
just feeling like, I was like, why, what do you do?
Because it's inevitable when you're this visible, there's gonna be
negative comments and there's gonna be like column haters, calm whatever.
(15:04):
There's going to be like the trash comment. How do
you handle that I'm not really good at it. I
don't think that. I think it affects me. If I'm honest,
I don't. I don't. I read it and then it
makes me think something about myself. And I think that
most people don't admit that. They say, oh, I don't
care what people saying. I'm going to do my thing
totally hurt and totally hurts my feelings one. By the way,
(15:28):
most people don't want to I mean, they're like, I'm
gonna be who I am and I don't care if
I'm liked or not. I don't think I'm that guy.
I think I gotta want to be like, yeah, it's hard.
A lot of people tell me just don't engage, like
that's what they want. But there's a part of me
that's like, you know what, I get to use my
voice however I want, and if I want to say, hey, dude,
that's not cool, I recently like, I yeah, of course
(15:51):
my publicist is in the room. Um. There was some
like ugly talk after the CMT Awards on some of
the Instagram posts about like our friends and I won't
like I don't want to like start it. I like
bopped in there and was like, Hey, Linda, maybe he
just needed a second cup of coffee this morning, because
you seem real grouchy about you know, Like, but when
(16:13):
you start saying ugly things about my friends, what about Trey?
Howse he handles stuff? Or does he is he? Like?
Does he want? You know why? Because he has the
most perfect abs on the planet, honestly, Like, I hope
that I am not too creepy on your man's instead,
because I'm like, every time I get to see Trey's abs,
(16:35):
I'm like, yes, why am I not doing sit ups?
Just like I imagine living with I don't I can't
go there. I really shouldn't go there. In my brain
that would be Oh well, So okay, can we talk
about the shirtless selfie because in general, yeah, it's not
for for y'all or for you you know, for me,
(16:58):
I'm getting I feel like for me, it's it's like
it makes me again going back to the like thing perhaps,
like it makes me feel as I get older that
I still have it. You totally still have if not
just right on it and tell County he has it. Yeah,
but I think that you want to like in whatever way,
and it doesn't have to be a shirtless selfie, you
(17:19):
can be a sexy pose you with teach me some
of those later well, and you've got them on yours
to Kelly Bennett. Kelly Benn, It's really weird, though, how
much we are in front of the camera for the
jobs that we do. I find it really intimidating at times.
And isn't that one of the reasons why it works
on our world and perhaps many other people's as well,
(17:40):
Like it's sort of validates and sends people to be
interested in what it is that you do. And if
it sends people to listen to your music because you're
in some sexy pose, okay, what's wrong with that? You
know listening? You try to be classy with it as well,
And my mom taught me that, so, um, you still
have to be respect and be a man of integrity. Um,
(18:02):
and you can do that with also with your shirt
you can. Now I have a personal goal. My personal
goal is like I because okay, so everybody knows you
post a bikini pick, you get a lot of followers.
If you don't know that, ladies, and you're trying to
grow your followers apparently that is the key. But I
(18:23):
have a personal goal of like I'm not going to
do a bikini pick or a or a two piece pick,
although I am in like kind of a two piece
situation in my video that comes out tomorrow, but it's
like got a blazer over it, so it's not like
a bikini pick. My My goal is I don't want
to do one of those until I'm on the cover
of a fitness magazine. If I'm on the cover of
a fitness magazine, I want that to be my first
(18:43):
like bikini pick. I don't know if we're gonna get
there because I'm aging rapidly, but anyway, you got me
interested in the video now, so you know it's definitely
out of my week. So we shot four videos for
the music that's coming out over the summer. We're kind
of doing like a single a month um and there's
(19:04):
a video for all the songs. And we knocked him
out over a couple of days in New York and
one of the videos really pushing me out of my
comfort zone because it was like, really the first time
that I've had to interact like with like an actor
or a model, and like, I've been married for a
million years, so I'm not touching a lot of other men,
and it was like really intimidating, So that's coming out later.
(19:26):
But then this one, it would kind of we pushed
you to kiss him, no, but it honestly felt that
intimate cody like because you're inches away, and it was
more like it was kind of like a dancing scene
or like this scene where they're kind of holding each other,
and so it honestly felt as intimate or maybe more
than kissing. It was just and it kind of like
(19:47):
startled me just how like this is like a little scary,
like I'm not again, I'm not touching. I haven't been
touching a lot of other men for fifteen years and
there was never a lot of men, so um, it
definitely was like, you know, I was like, wow, okay,
this is I made the model. I was like, hi, um,
I'm not good at this and I'm going to drink
(20:08):
some bourbon now, would you like something? And that was
how we got through that scene and then but then
for Deluxe, it's it's more of a mood kind of
video than a like a real concept video, but it's
definitely one of the edgier things like I've worn and
I feel like there's a part of me that maybe
here's like whatever voice in my head that's like you're
(20:30):
not a model, like you don't, you shouldn't be whatever,
don't or even like maybe a judge side that's like
showing your body. Like so I have some fear about
it coming out and feeling also like I was texting
my manager on the way here, I'm like, so, we
can't pull the video right like CMTS premiering it tomorrow,
we probably can't pull the video because I'm in a
major spiral about like my body and like being in
(20:52):
this outfit on this video and like being too much
about that. And he was like stop, you know it's
it looks great, but he has to say that he's
my manager. I love that you're overthinking it. I can
overthink anything. That is my personal superpower. I love the
idea with the lux because it's really about that word
extra that everyone like somebody's extra, Like it's all about
(21:15):
being a little a little plus right, yes, And with
this couple, it's really like their love that's you know,
that is extra. But I love that we they're not
like rolling up in their roles with their like big
diamonds at their four seasons. They're like at the motel,
but they they're going to go hang by the pool,
you know, and they're like gonna like soak up that
(21:36):
air conditioning and that. You know. They're kind of like accessible.
It's like being extra in whatever you're lane is, you know.
So I kind of love that about this. That always
I kind of, um, it helps me to kind of
fall in love with the characters that I'm writing about.
And that was what was really fun about those characters.
It's not it's a little bit me and it's a
little bit Jeff and it was a little bit my
(21:58):
co writer Danielle and her husband, but it was also
like who are these characters and like let's just like
let them be themselves, you know, And that's really fun.
So did you write all the songs for the other
four that are coming out? Yeah? Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited.
I can't wait for you to hear them. So should
we do? Should I try and get these Cody Confessions in? Okay? Okay, okay?
(22:19):
The producer people are like, who is this girl? And
why is she here? Um? I think it's time old camp? Everybody?
Are we really doing it? Can we can we? Okay?
How long has this been? Sitting up there. I will
now get away from my mic and go whiskey. Okay
after a year okay, and are you I'm going to
(22:40):
drink after you? Okay. Do you see me aggressively moving
towards you? Who the moment of the podcast where we
start drinking, I taste like, oh, it's peach. It's good.
Actually he's giving me like a banana nut pecan or pecan? Is?
(23:02):
I grew up in South Carolina and we always say
peak can. Okay, this is a segment of the show
I like to call Cody confessions. Confessions from Cody. That
(23:23):
was beautiful whiskey. Okay. So these are fill in the blanky?
Have you been prepped for these? I won't said anything,
and I'm scared. No. No, um, I admit I've never
seen an episode of blank. Game of Thrones? Sorry, oh sorry, okay,
(23:44):
Well can we read the books? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't
know this about you. Yeah, it's so I need to
get into it. I just feel like I'm so far
behind Kelly. Here's what are And it's okay because that
means you've got like tons of time to disappear, and
I don't have uns of time? Is the problem? It's
like seventeen hundred hours. Is it that many hours? I
(24:04):
it seems like it would be. So you start with
one episode to see how it goes. UM. Last time
I got star struck was um, I know, I know
it was like an hour ago when you when you arrived.
When was the last time you got started? I? Um?
(24:26):
I think Ellen. I was star struck by Ellen. When
did you meet Ellen? Like a year ago? I would
be a puddle. Well. I got the introducer at a
um Brad Paisley benefit out in UH for the wildfire
relief efforts. I guess they both have homes in Santa
Monica area or whatever. Santa Monica, Santa Barbara is Oprah.
(24:48):
But I don't know about Santa Barbara Is that right?
I'm right, Santa Monica's near l A. I did say
hi to work. I said, you know, great to meet you.
Love what you do. I said all these things you're
supposed to say when you mean someone famous. I love
your work, blah blah blah. And then I said, but
I have to tell you like I'm gay, and she
said me too. It's like the most shocking, like oh
(25:15):
I am to me too, Like as if we don't
know because she's such an icon in the gay world.
But um but still that is hilarious. And then we
went on to talk about and so endearing country music
and how we don't have a lot of people who
speak up in our format and anyway, she was very
sweet and wonderful and um, yeah, she was great. It
was great. That was star struck, though a little nervous,
(25:37):
wildly star struck because also comedians are scary because they
have that ability to see the like most insecure part
of you and then use it for everyone else's enjoyment.
And that is a strike spere in my heart. I
feel like you've been using all my insecurities this past hour. Okay,
(25:57):
so one thing, one thing I could never be convinced
to do is I'm not a great swimmer. I don't
love water. I don't love deep water. But you love
showing us you're like. I love body, I love the beach.
I love to all the way up to where that
wet part touches the sand exactly. That's the part where
(26:18):
I stop. One word I'd like to eliminate from the
English languages I mentioned why imagined foodie, foodie. I don't
know why this is irritate me. I think it's because
this the E on the end, the just the playful
nature of them. H Hubby, Hubby, my husband. I'm like,
if I'm being I don't know if if I'm saying hey,
(26:39):
I'm gonna like yeah, but yeah, it's a little cheesy
maybe okay, And I'm gonna think it every time I
say my biggest regret is oh heavy? Who Ever wrote
the biggest regret? Your biggest regret? You know, I had
a tendency when I was young to buy cars muscle
like like fancy cars. No. I would just switch out
(27:02):
cars too often. And I grew up in a really
thrifty home. My grandpa and my whole family was so
like penny pincers. So when I started making money, I
wanted to buy things, and I regret sometimes like passing
over an amazing for runner just because I wanted the
next thing, Like, I mean, I wish i'd kept that
(27:23):
four It's my point. So there's probably something like regrets
when it comes to like material things, where I like,
I wish you would have kept that. That's the thing
about material stuff, though, like it totally tells you you're
gonna be You're gonna be so happy when you have it,
and then you get it and you're like, like a
few months later, a few years later, you're like, okay, next,
And so I probably regret some of those decisions. It's
(27:46):
just that that's very silly. But still it's not a
big regret either. But that one food I've grown to
like is I like all foods, and there's never been
like a food. I mean, I really do. I like everything.
I'm really going through like beats. Yes, so it's Jeff
he loves beats. Uh. In the next five years, I
(28:07):
see myself making a hip hop album. Okay obviously, Okay,
me and little nas x um making some hip hop. Honestly,
can y'all get him on? Like the Countdown and you
don't call it that anymore? The hot twenty like that
(28:28):
would be the I would I would die. Okay, we'll
work on that. Um, let's get the booking department on
the phone. I like where what I'm doing. I think
I have a still long run left. You know, you
get insecure when you get a little bit older, and
maybe as an artist you can kind of feel some
of that, like when all the young twenty somethings are
(28:49):
coming up. You feel some insecurity because you're over thirty
or over forty, um, and so I feel so of that.
But I also feel like I'm really good at what
I do, and so I'd like to just continue doing
what I do, and I'm okay with that. I don't
feel like I have to like move another mountain in
order to feel satisfied with my life. I've really, as
you said, with kids, you know, I've gotten happy with myself.
(29:12):
I feel some peace with you know, just about every
aspect of my life. There's probably a few things I
want to do next. You talk about marriage earlier, um,
But for the most part, when it comes to the
next five years, I feel really good about what I'm
doing and I'd like to continue and get better at
it if I can. So this is going to be
your already so amazing if I can get better at it.
(29:33):
So if I can't even get better better, but if like,
what have you learned over these first hundred episodes. So
with the podcast, what I love about it is it's
so it's so raw and it can be um. You
can peel back the layers a little bit more and
have a more intimate conversation with people. I loved doing
that forgetting that their microphones here. Sometimes it's really nice.
(29:56):
Um do you do that? Does that happen for you
more and more? I think it does. I mean, I
think there's some a bit of show biz, especially when
we turn on the lights in this room and we
tape TV or whatever, like you feel okay, there's a
little more intimidation factor. But I think that that's what
all about the podcast is that you can kind of
some of that can be peeled away. You don't have
to worry about that as much, and there's a little
(30:17):
more realness. But you know, with a lot of the
podcasts that we do with their bigger name artists, you
don't always have an hour to really put things down
so um. But I think people really love to hear
from the Carrie Underwoods and the Luke Bryan's, even if
it's for a shorter period of time, um, and hear
how the whole conversation went. So often on the radio,
you hear uh Luke Bryan's song and you hear a
(30:37):
snippet from Luke Brian afterwards of him answering a question,
but you don't get the full scope of how the
conversation went. From beginning to end, but the moment you
you picked the phone as a real person, to the
moment the conversation ended. I think I love the podcast
allows you to hear all those moments and sometimes a
little bumpy, not always perfect, and I think some of
those are, you know, as a listener, really fun, endearing,
(31:01):
Oh my gosh, thank you for having me. I don't know.
Everyone's like, are you gonna ever rap? Kelly? Are you
ever going to wrap up? You did a great job.
That was really good. You did a great job and
I learned so much. The Cody Confessions was my favorite
part of all because it was real and I felt
the whiskey helped. It totally helps. I felt we should
(31:21):
have gotten the whiskey earlier. We should have So we'll
just start again. Okay, We're gonna start all over now.
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