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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Cody Ellen's podcast. This is Cody Cast. Hello
is this Brad? It is. I'm so sorry. I'm late.
I hope I didn't screw you all up. No, well,
it's just one guy here now, it's just me. I'm
the one person. You think there's a team around me anymore, Brad, No,
just just the one guy me. None of us have
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a team anymore. I always have like virtual assistance. It's weird.
It's like people don't need really, they don't need bodies.
We're just sort of we're all Alexis at this point,
can't we truly are? Yes? So you didn't screw me
up at all. I'm only worried about you not being
able to get outside today. It's so beautiful, um gorgeous.
I need to get I do need to get outside today.
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This is unbelievable. I've had some allergies flare up, flare
up though in the last couple of of like weeks,
in a way that I never have before. It's been
like I think, I think there's something about maybe I
had You know, you don't. You haven't gotten exposed to
many things this year, that's right, and the immune systems like, oh,
I'll do this. I have allergies every year, and um,
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you know, I'll do like the regular stuff whatever over
the counter flows or something, and it tends to work.
Do you find that when you say I have allergies,
like everyone wants to tell you what the remedy is. Oh,
of course, yeah, of course I've heard like, uh, what
is it local be pollen like honey with be pollen
in it. Well, luckily my brother in law makes honey
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right here. Uh and uhr, Kim's brother. He's great, he's
he and he gets like, you know, as soon as
I say, you know what, I feel like, I'm getting
these allergies right now, and it's like we've got I've
got more be pollen and honey and things than I could. Yeah,
like one table spoon like a day is supposed to
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like somehow make you immune. I suppose to what's around
you make your body used to that? You know that?
All allergen? Hey, that's of all the things that yeah
to do. That's great, I mean, right, yes, all natural. Um,
this is not why you're here, though. UM. I do
have several important topics to cover. Let's just start with
number one. Your reaction to post malone singing I'm gonna
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miss her on the Matthew McConaughey were Texas Benefit. It
was so so cool. I was so I was just
beyond thrilled. I was like, I, first of all, if
you heard him sound like that, but I mean I
knew he could though. He's that good. You know that
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if he just wanted to do what we do, he'd
be better at it, and he is. He showed that.
It's just not it's not fair. You know. If I
wanted to do his thing, you know, first of all,
I wouldn't even get through one tattoo before I was crying.
But second of all, musically i'd be you know, everybody'd
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be like, stop it. He does mind. You know I
do I do his song? Everybody is probably like, stop,
don't don't do that, You're ruining it. He does mind.
Everybody's like, oh, he should do all yours. Pretty amazing
In a fun moment, Um, you got a new song
out off road and I really love this song. Um,
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it's really about the women who are who called her
a little outside the lines, right, um, a girl power
anthem if you will, from a from a guy. Well,
in some ways, yeah, it's it's interesting. It's like I
when we when we wrote that, I wrote it with
Lee Miller and Ross Copperman and all on zoom right. Um,
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you know, never in the same room. But I'm finding
I was just talking about this with the Summer at
the other day. I'm not sure. I'm I mean, we're
gonna sit down in the same room and all of
us are just gonna it's gonna be so weird, and
we're in a day dream and then we're gonna get lunched,
and then we're gonna it's like, I'm gonna go get
my computer. I'll be in the other room, open up
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this link. Um. But in in this song, uh, you know,
it's like I was just kind of realizing how much
country girls uh sort of refused to refused to stay,
you know, in their lane. And and it really any
woman that that goes somewhere in this world, they have
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faced obstacles that were put there like on purpose to
stop them from doing that, you know. And and uh
and anytime they do, anytime they they're successful, it's almost
against all odds. And I'm I'm just so you know
that I got to really paint what I was talking
about on the Opery special that we did for NBC
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UM where we showed I did it acoustically, and we
showed all of these amazing opery performers and all the
female opera performers that you think of, and it was
just things I had never thought of, just watching the
the performance of of of these folks and seeing you know,
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seeing folks like Tammy and and Loretta, I mean, heck Loretta,
you know, thinking about what she's saying about back in
the sixties and seventies and the attitude and all the
way through to carry and everybody else, and it's like,
I just really, uh, it's really fun to sort of
do this in a country metaphor that that really says, um,
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there's nothing like there's nothing like a country girl to
basically break all the rules and say, you know, it's
it's it's truly inspiring. Also to watch my wife as
a I mean, think about it. It's like as an actress,
the things she has dealt with that if she was
an actor, well I guess you know, technically they're called
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actors as well, but if she was a male actor
and she was going through what she goes through in Hollywood,
it's it's not even I don't know. They just think
about they have to think about things we don't. And
I really wanted to sing a song that sort of
shows how how strong they are. Um. Obviously you must
have been thinking about her when writing the song, and
maybe some like you mentioned Loretta and Tammy Wynette, were
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you thinking also of those women? Yeah? Absolutely, I mean
to me, it was like there, you know, it's interesting
you see you see on UM, you see on something
like Instagram or TikTok or anything. Uh. Also these these
girls today that are entrepreneurs, that are like that are
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out there and they are you know, they're basically running
lifestyle channels of their own, um in so many ways.
And uh and Kim does that to some degree, Like
she's been doing a Friday thing with her sister that
goes really well. It's like sisters talking and you watched
it will wind up some sort of podcast or something
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because people love listening to two sisters talk about the
world and and uh, and you know, and just watching
all of that as well as thinking of like, you know,
what also came to mind was writing it with carry
um in my brad. Paisley thinks she's special where she's
scared the living daylights out of me driving me around
in that Chevy. I mean trust me that. I was like, well,
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music videos probably already done where I basically pee my pants.
So I know you're a big supporter of Mickey Guiden,
who had coming to her own in the last few
months and talk about off roads. There you go. That's yeah, Mickey.
Why is it important? Some people may ask, I mean,
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it maybe obvious, but I think we still got to
answer the question. Why why is it important to have
voices like Mickey sing country music? I think it goes
back to when Charlie Pride emerged and everybody was like enamored.
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But the thing Charlie back in his day, you know,
now we're now we're getting to the weeds of of
sort of the world a bit and the world we
live in and the way this was you know, hasn't
been fair. But Charlie, they sort of were like, we're
gonna ship your singles without your photo and they did that,
and of course because they're incredible, people were like, whoa,
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I gotta get me more of that, and they gobbled
him up. And the story goes that when he made
his debut, I think on the opry stage. The Crown
went silent because they fully expected Hank Williams to walk out,
really and instead they had Charlie Pride, and it was like,
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you know, and and they realized at that point it's
like and he just walked to the mic and said, hey, folks, uh,
think of it as a sundane permanent like or something
like that, you know. And and and he was in
I mean, it's just like in Mickey's case, it's an
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interesting thing that it's taken this long. Um, it's not
fair that it's taken this long. But she is the
right one. I mean, she toured with me along time
for a long time. She's sang Whiskey Lallaby every night
in a way that it was like whoa she She's
did as great a job on that as anybody ever
does other than Allison, you know. And and I was
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really interesting. It was really interesting and so special every
night to sing that where you know, And and it
sounds weird to say this, but when when Mickey comes
from this place of such country reverence, that's exactly what
Charlie Pride had And and it's like it's really beautiful
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because it's hard for anybody to say, well, is that
really you know, the kind of thing that when when
somebody loves it as much as Mickey does, she belongs
here and and it is truly inspiring. She's, like I said,
she's the right one to bust the door down. She's
the right one to do this because she she is
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everything you want and and there'll be more. And I
think that's fantastic and an unquestionable talent to like, you
can't argue it, you just can't. And she's the one.
You're right, all right. So another great Black country singer,
Jimmy Allen, specifically wrote his new song for you like
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to have you a part of it as a duet
Freedom was a Highway. So tell me about hearing that
song and and and doing it with Jimmy. Oh, I
loved it, and I was like, I was like, what
do you want? Wanted me to just play the guitar
and he's like, no, the singer herse. So I took
it in the studio and had a ball just putting
the guitar part down and U again all over zoom
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and uh you know, and and uh it came to life.
I I really like the guitar solo. I mean, i'm, I'm,
I don't like everything I play, but I love the
guitar solo on that one, and then um vocally, it
was fun to sing because it was definitely a different
field for me than normal. And I think that gives
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me license on things like that too. Because it's a
Jimmy Allen record, I can you know, it's sort of
like you know, nobody will say that's not your style.
It's like I belong on there because he asked me
and screw you. Well that one a lot like off Road.
This is my like FM DJ side coming out. I
feel like, awesome, yeah, yeah, let's this is great. This
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is like i'm, it's like we're back in time here.
But I was gonna say both of them just like
pop out of the speakers and sounds so good on
the radio. That's nice of you to say. There's just
songs that just have that effect and you can't really
explain it. It's just something you hear. It's like a feeling,
a vibe um and it's usually with the windows rolled
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down on days like today, and you can crank both
those songs up and just I love bove them. So
new songs often me like a new album is on
the way or does that happen anymore? Brad? Are we
are we done with albums? What is next? What can
you tell us about sort of your take on that.
Are you making an album or you just singles or EPs?
And what's the way to go here? You know? Uh,
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I'm definitely making an album. I don't know for releasing.
I mean as far as that goes. I I when
I write songs, and off Road is one of them,
there's always they always start to form a shape of
something else, Like you know, whether that was way back
and mud on the tires and that album became what
it was, time will waste, it became what it was,
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and you know, it's like this is this is something
I've been making um song by song and that's really
all I've had to do. So there's an album almost done.
Whether or not how it comes out would be a
good question, and if you have any on how to
release it. But I'm really hopeful that it exists in
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its way that I envisioned it, which is like in
this order, these songs, you know, this package, Uh, at
least for the chosen few that want to hear it
that way. Yeah, I think so. I think there's something
to the art of of how the collection falls and
the you know what the cover looks like. I hope
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we don't lose that in this fast paced music world
where music is flying every Friday. Yeah, I hope we
don't lose the album thing. Um, real quick, we're doing
a zoo benefit together, right that, both of us at
the Nashville Zoo for the Association of Zoos and Aquarium's
big fundraising benefit. And I got to actually hold a
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bowl constrictor Brad. He was probably about fifty pounds. I
held him for like five minutes trying to get the
teleprompter and the sequence because you got the screen there,
the camera, I and this bullet constructor in your hands
and it was just crazy. Did you break into Britney
Spears and start saying that, Yes, I feel like a
Britney Spears video right? Um? And there was some llamas,
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let's see, we had flamingos. I was surrounded by a
goat at one point. So what I am? Yeah, I'm
I'm performing with several Okay, tell us more. What what
animals are you gonna be with? On the special? A
sloth which was the coolest. It started like climbing over
and like looked at it was like five inches from
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my face, just staring doing this thing a sloth does.
It stares you in the face like in slow motion.
It's like time slows down and and uh it was
really crazy. They're like, oh, he's got some pretty big claws.
If he reads it out, move away like yeah, yeah
I will. They're like, you'll have time. He's slow as compete.
But uh so that was one. Um, there was some bearcat,
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huge like bearcat animal that I knew it was a
bad idea when they started because this thing was like
it looked like a dog meets a I mean, dog
meets a bear meets a cat meets a wolverine. I
don't know. It was sitting there and of course, like
right in the first verse, it jumps down and they
had to scramble to grab it. It like got in
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the weeds nearby, and uh and then um, what was
another one we did? There's uh, um, the rhinos are
behind me, which is really cool. Yeah. We I got
to hold a baby Joey, a little kangaroo, which, by
the way, I think the Nashville Zoo has maybe the best.
And I've been to Australia. I think Nashvill zo has
like one of the best kangaroo exhibits I've ever seen
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they do, and that Nashville's got some of the best anything.
I really, our zoo is way better than I expect
anybody expects for a town, ourselves, something that's really good.
So it's all to benefit the Association of Zoos and
aquariums across the country. So why was the cause important
to you? Why is it important to get back to
our zoos? Well, you know, I have a I got
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my youngest son really wants to do that. He wants
to be like a vet or an animal um, like
a zoologist or anybody. He really he cares about the cheetahs.
He wants to save his favorite animals, a cheetah. He
wants to save them um from any sort of extinction.
And he you know, and we so we started going
to these places. Didn't you realize what they do. Like
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at Nashville, they're trying to breathe the rhinos right now,
and um they are there. You know, they're in they're
in trouble. And so the idea that we're able to
sort of create more of these animals in a setting
where we can see them and they're done so it's
done so humanely. It's um, it's like, what's to me,
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It's like it's a no brainer. Anyway. I love catching
up with you always, Brad. Thank you for the time today,
and we'll give you lots of love on the on
the new song too. It really is great. That's so
nice if you thank you for talking to me, and
it'll be great to see you in person one of
these days and then it's coming. It will happen, yeah,
I hope. So all right, well, all right, thanks for
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