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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is podcast. Hey Cody Chip, how are you? Man? Hey,
I'm good? Are you? I'm doing uh pretty well? Every
everything you always answered like that, there's always an asterisk,
like I'm doing well considering everything that's going on and
what we're going through. So yeah, we're very fortunately great.
How about you? I'm not actually happy to be healthy
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and still working and you know, there's a lot of
people suffering. So just to be one of the lucky
ones right now is um is a gift? A great? Yeah.
So are you a Nashville in a quarantine with the fan? Yeah?
We are, um, We're we're here in Brentwood, and we
actually came back early from the C t C Festival
a thousand days ago, it seems like, but um, we
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came back and did an extra you know, special quarantine
because we've been overseas and flowing and everything. So for
those uh fourteen days, we hungered completely and then, to
be honest, it really hasn't changed much after that. We've
been doing the same thing ever since. What has like
family life been like since you've been stuck at home?
Is it puzzles? Is it binge? Watching TV? And we'll
get to your show in a second here, but like,
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what is it like for your family? It's it's been
all that stuff we um, we did. We did the
big puzzles. I think it is piece huge puzzle of
like the fifteen the Sisteen Chapel ceiling um where David
and I mean we're Adam and God are almost touching fingers,
and I promise you that piece was missing where they
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almost touched. We couldn't find it at the very end.
We're pretty sure one of the dogs ate it. But
we've been playing that. Uh is it Settlers of Katan
or Katan? My kids tellt me that, Uh. I taught
my wife and I that. So we've been doing that.
And also I've been doing the other stuff like a
Quarantine live stream once a week. UM, I've been doing
and that's been a lot of fun, just to stay
in touch with, you know, people that like to hear
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the music. And I've been been able to add a
couple of things to that like that you would know about,
like an interview or two with some of my Outer
Banks friends and uh and a duet or two with
some of my Nashville friends. So anything to keep busy
and and those things. I'm generally trying to get people
to so we can all give back a little bit
to the people that are not at home playing Settlers
of Canten, but are out there being heroes and doing
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all the important stuff. We are in the middle of
a piece puzzle right now, and I swear every time
I get near it, it gives me anxiety and like
a headache to even think about approaching that. So you
must have a lot of patients. Well, I actually you
learn patients these days, don't you. We have a system,
actually we uh, we've kind of a time. Puzzlers are family,
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I kind of guess, And we have some of us
that are really good at finding the flat edges. Other
ones group all the colors. Other ones are the ones
that come along and go where what do you think
discoes and they'll find it. So it's there. Really is
a family thing. And by the way we did last
year at the beach, we have a big family, like
sixty of us and I don't know what made us
think of this. We got two thousand piece puzzles that
were exactly the same. So if you had a big
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family or a big group you're quarantined with try this.
Get two of the same puzzles mass to find two
big tables somewhere and then say go. But it's an
insane puzzle race m ugly too. Yeah, I can see
some elbows being thrown there some Yeah, for sure, a
little spying. Hey, get out of here. Tell about the
quarantine music you've been doing with some of your friends
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from Nashville. Yeah, Jonathan Jackson and I just recently did
one of those uh video duets where you know, I
do my part and I send it to him and
he puts in the earphones and he sings along. And
my buddy Steve Mandel has been editing him together, putting
them together on video. And we did the Everly Brothers
song um Let It Be Me. And before that even
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I got to sing with Lennon and Mazie in exactly
the same way. There's a song from the show called
You Keep Me Believing, and it's just one of those songs.
And there's so many man from Nashville that just stand
up in these hard times because Nashville was about hard time.
So so much of the music speaks to being there
for somebody that's in need, being their sanctuary, about having
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a life that's good, about keeping people believing. So I
really feel even the further we get from that show,
I feel really blessed by that catalog. So we were
able to do that and people love that. Couple questions
about Nahville, then we'll move on. But UM, tell me
what do you miss about doing the show? Well, it's simple.
It's the people. Um, It's that's the quickest thing because
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so much of the rest of it. I mean, we
can go watch it if we want to binge it.
I haven't in a while, but I but I might.
But the music is all right there. That's an unusual
thing about our show that most shows don't have. Usually
got to go watch it again to get back in
that world with us. People can listen anytime they want,
anywhere they are, and I do that sometimes. And I
have a few of deacons and guitarists too, so I'll
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sit there and I'll play that. So I have a
lot of touchstones for what it was. But what and
we are in touch so many of us. We reach
out now and again Connie and I. I just texted
Connie happy birthday not too long ago. Um and um,
So we do stuff like that. But it's not the
same as you know, as that day to day being
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around each other. Think about college. You're in touch with
college friends, but man, it's nuts like those days of
just always hanging And I mostly think back. We made
a show that had some tears in it, but the
making of it involved a whole lot of laughter. So
I missed that Beyond TV. Who are the people you're
keeping connected with during this quarantine time? Like? Who are
your country music friends? The people in Nashville. I spoke
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with Brad Brad with Brad Paisley real early um, and
I'm just such First of all, I'm a fan of
his music from way back, but also his heart in
his head. That guy is really good hearted. What they've
done with their local store that was providing for seniors
and for everything like that, and all the all the
different shows and plus on top of that, man, that
guy figures out a million ways to do a million things.
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I love the thing he's doing where he breaks in
on people's zooms. They've given him his zoom, their zoom
addresses and out of nowhere a family zoom. And and and
there's Brad Paisley. That the thing is songer too. So
I spoke with Brad a little bit. My buddy Lee,
Bryce and I have been in touch. I wish Darius
happy birthday just the other day. Um uh so uh
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and I actually wrote a song on over the zoom
there with my buddies from Low Cash and uh and
and Danny Myrick and man, we're loving that song and
I'm waiting to hear what they do with it. Um
to Outer Banks? Now, why was this appealing to you
when you saw the script and saw it was Netflix
and as a bench show and all this. Why was
this show cut of the right move for you? Well,
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the quickest funny thing is that I've been going to
the Outer Banks for our families. That that puzzle contest,
I told you that occurred in the Outer Banks, so
you would We've been going there for years. So sometimes
you get something and you go, wait, I know that,
all right, I would love to shoot a show about that.
We ended up didn't even shoot there. We shot in Charleston,
South Carolina was obviously the king of Yeah, and I'm
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actually from South Carolina. I grew up around there, and um,
I grew up in Columbia and we would go to
the outer Banks of North Carolina all the time, so
I could relate immediately to the scenery, so it's in Charleston.
That's interesting, Yeah, exactly. But the other thing about it
then was once I started reading it, and more to
the point, when I spoke with UM, the creators Josh
and Jonas Pate and uh and Shannon Burke, they were
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talking about where this character was gonna go. And we
won't give any spoilers, but suffice to say I knew
it was a long way from Deacon. And what you
what you don't really want to do is go be
some other version of what you just finished in a
large role. You want to you want your next big
role to be UM something that ticks you somewhere else,
and this definitely did that. And then by the time
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I met this young cast, I was all the way
on board. It was incredible just watching how they had
bonded so quickly, and not just great young actors, but
great young people. And that really means everything, because I
think I stuffed shines through them. I know it did
on Nashville UM, so that was that was important for
me too. For people haven't seen the show yet. And
by the way, it's UM it's great cinematography. It looks
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great on the screen, but it also is so compelling
because every episode is a cliffshanger, and he's you want
to keep watching and watching and watching, and that of
course what it's all about. Take us to sort of
the plot of the show. For people who who haven't
seen it yet, well, the best thing to tell you is,
even with that cinematography, with all of these things in
the storylines, you're saying, this was created and written by
guys that have been friends forever, that grew up on
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beaches together and are huge fans of all of those movies,
those treasure hunting young adults all hanging together wrong side
of the tracks. So whether it's you know, I've been
hearing Goonies, National Treasure, a little bit of the Outsiders, Um,
it's sort of like almost got some Ozark, but for
younger kids it's you know, but not younger kids, but
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younger adults. Um. And what it is is just in
outer banks, they say there's three kinds of people. There's
the tourons. That's the people to visit once a week.
That's my family or not. And then there's the popes
are the ones from the wrong side of the tracks.
There are the ones with two jobs, and then there's
the coops, and the coops are the ones with two houses. Um,
and this is about the popes, and one of the
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popes has a father that's a treasure hunter. Because the
outer banks, the shore is out there are full of
ships that have gone down over the centuries. That's for real,
that's the exact case. And even this treasure they're talking
about was four million million in cash, four hundred million.
And anyway, his dad has been looking this for this
for years and a year ago before the show starts,
that father disappeared, and now is our show starts, a
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hurricane hits and some things are stirred up, and he
starts finding clues that lead him to believe that maybe
his father found that treasure, and maybe that's why his
father can't be found. But I will say this, as
big as the four million is, I think the real
treasure to everybody. And and by the way, I just
heard we went over a billion. Uh, I guess I
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don't even know what you call it on TikTok a
billion outer banks references on TikTok billion? Can you wrab
my head around that? But I think that is that's
about the actual gold treasure and more about seriously, the
Treasure That is what it is to be in a
friend group like that. Everybody looks like that. These friends
that are through thick and thin, hang together and more
than anything, while you're stuck on your sof, why not
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go to one of the most gorgeous places on earth.
And going to Treasure Hunt really is fantastic. Outer Banks
will look for your character award on the show. And
before we let you go, I want to ask about
auditions because over the years as an actor, I imagine
you've auditioned thousands of times. Take me to one of
the most memorable chip like one of those times where
you I'll never forget auditioning at this moment. Oh my goodness.
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Um well, I'll give you one. This is one I
don't think I've ever shared before. I came extremely close
on Band of Brothers, that incredible mini series, um uh
that Tom Hanks produced, and I was all the way
down the line. Don't even ask me which character I'm
forgetting at this point, And um, this was before I
had done anything of that sort of substance or that
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sort of level, and so this would have been a
major jump. And I had one, two, three auditions, and
then I had an audition with Tom Hanks in the room,
and he was as lovely as could be, super kind,
wonderful guy, and I saw would have brought it. And
I sort of had a great audition, And so I
went home and my agents called me up and said
they really like you, that they just want one more audition,
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and uh, And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, what do
you say no? And I'm like, man, I'm like, if
if Tom Hanks likes you, who in the world else
needs to say yes? So of course I show up
to that audition. I walked in the room. There's nobody
in there but Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg holding a
camcorder and they have me get down behind a chair
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and act like I'm fighting in World War two and
doing a scene. And while I'm crawling along this carpeted floor,
Steven Spielberg is four ft from me, crawling along with
this camera. And I'm telling you, my brain was exploding.
I was trying to be as cool as I could,
but I grew up on Jaws and Close Encounters and
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everything that everybody grew up on et and so I
just did my best. I hung in there. Probably nothing
you could have seen that I was nervous, that I
was nervous, maybe, but I'm sure in Steven Spielberg's viewfinder
we adult nervous. So I ended up not getting that
one um, which which hurt for sure. But I gotta
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tell you one final addendum to that. I my wife
at that time, knew how hard that hit me. I
was pretty easy going guy. I would I would take
bosses as I could, but that one hit me a
little bit. She wrote me on a piece of notebook paper,
just the kindest, most loving note about I know this hurts,
but this is a step. You were in the room
reading for Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg and you came
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very close. You have no idea why they didn't choose you.
You just keep going because you're doing something right and
you're meant to be doing this and I that meant
everything to me. And then I lost that note forever
till I came to Nashville. Right after I got Nashville,
we moved into this new house, unpacking and outfalls this
note that you know, fifteen twenty years after that disappointment
and starting this new show, getting to play deacons. So
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it was unbelievable, right, what a great story. Truly. Yeah,
you are absolutely one of the great's, like not only
great actor, senior songwriter. I feel like you're like in
baseball they called him a five tool player, like the
guy who can do everything. So um, thank you for
your friendship over the years, and good luck with the
new show. Oh, thank you. I want to tell you
have one of the tweets of the Quarantine from me.
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You're gonna have to help me with the exact language,
but it was something along the lines of at this
point and I'm ready for the murders or what was it, Yeah,
it was I think I might be ready to be
murdered by a hornet literally, you know they say l
O L I literally luod. Well you guys, take care
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by best of your family, Holly if you need anything. Okay,
thanks for listening to Cody Ellen's podcast. This is Cody Cast.