December 14, 2020 • 18 mins
On this episode of the Cody Cast podcast, Cody Alan sits down with Adam Doleac, one of Cody's favorite new rising country stars, for a conversation covering everything from songwriting to baseball to rounding the bases of a hookup. But it's not what you think.
Listen in as Cody projects Adam's new single, "Whiskey's Fine," to be a breakout number #1 hit and reveals that it is one of his favorite songs of 2020. Adam who has written songs for artists like Darius Rucker and Kane Brown is now getting his time to shine as his songs are sweeping fans' radar. Listen now and be early to join the fan club by getting to know the prominent voice who originally made our ears perk up with tracks like "Neon Fools" and "Famous."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Podcasting. Welcome to Allen's. A lot of people ask me
who my favorite interviews are, Like, what artists do I
love to talk to him? Of course? Yeah, it's all
the A listeners are awesome. It's fun too, Let's sit
down with Luke Brian or Carrie Underwood. But I gotta
tell you, I love meeting new artists, um who are
(00:21):
talented and could be the next A list artist. And
one of those guys I met last year was Adam Doliak,
and I really liked his vibe. You know, he's got
all the makings of a big star. But I always
ask myself when I meet one of these new artists,
do they have the song, the song that's gonna take
them where they want to go, the number one chart
topper that brings them all the success they're dreaming of
(00:44):
and drives everything else. When I heard Adam's latest song,
Whiskey's Fine, I thought, man, this is the song for him.
So with that in mind, Adam is on the line
right now, I want to introuce you to him. Adam,
what's man? Hey, how are you doing? I'm great? How
are you buddy? I'm good? Um right on time, super punctual,
(01:05):
like you were welcome. You're gonna make your day a
little easier. You couldn't have been a second earlier or
later to make the time perfect where you having? Did
you need me to be late today? It's so I'm sorry. No.
I love punctuality. Um actually are you that way with everything? Uh? Yeah,
(01:25):
most things I do have a I have. It just
depends on what it is. If it's something like this,
I'm normally very punctual. If it's a right, I have
no problem pushing it five and ten minutes. And how
often are you writing with somebody else and making those appointments?
I mean, I know in music people may not realize
you make these sort of like writing appointments and you
meet someone it's yeah, yeah, it's every day. I mean normally,
(01:47):
you know, in the old world where we wrote in
person every day, it was it was actually every day, right,
normally at eleven o'clock sometimes ten um. But this year,
obviously it's been the year of honestly, you're just doing
good if you if everybody he agrees to not cancel
the right it's like, you know, especially right now we're
in November and December and it's already been such a
(02:08):
year where you can pretty much get away with canceling anything.
And so every day you kind of wake up and
you text your group of the two guys you're riding
with or girl, whoever it is, and you say, hey,
are we were good for today and just kind of
hold your breath for a minute, and a lot of times,
a lot of times it's like, yeah, let's just get
something in January next year. Who are your favorite people
to write with? I mean, who are your go to
(02:29):
you know what? They have kind of turned into more.
You know, in every room you have a writer and
you have kind of a producer type. Um, and so
I've kind of leaned on I love kind of the
older fellows. If they hear this, I hope they're not offended.
But take whisky is fine. For example, Uh Monty Criswell
who I wrote that song with. And Monty is probably
(02:50):
not sure of his exact age, mid forties, around fifty.
And obviously you wrote like I saw God today. Uh
some Eric Church loves me like Jesus does. He wrote that.
And you know, music back in the nineties or even
two thousand's was just a lot more lyrically driven, and
nobody was trying to be hip and cool and um,
(03:11):
so I use Moneys example, and some of these guys
that have been around for a while, uh Bob the
Pierro and Tom Douglas and you know, all these kind
of they've they've been doing it for a while and
they know what a good song is and they don't
really try to hit everything up and keep up with
the trends. And you know, me and my voice and
my style. Even when I tried to do the hip
thing and not do something that's sincere and genuine, people
(03:34):
can just read right through it and they can tell
that's not what I'm supposed to be doing. Um. And
so yea in life, yeah, I think so too. And
we're in such an age right now where people won't
real and raw stuff and and I think it's just
gotten easier than ever to be able to see through
when it's when it's not honest and genuine. So I've
(03:54):
always tried to keep that in mind. And obviously I
write with people of all calibers. Um, and I've tried
this thing and that thing, but I always go back
to the Monies and the Tom Douglas of the world,
just because I like, I love the lyrics they put
on something I'm able to bring, uh, like my producer
andrew S Gibbon or whoever it may be, to just
kind of maybe maybe you throw some hip, some current
(04:16):
aspects and on that side. But as far as the
writing of the song, keep it, keep it just what
it is, you know. I mean that's why I loved
Whiskey Is Fine. The first time I heard I was like, oh,
this is like a great first of all, a great
country song, but also like a modern sort of feel
to it. And with you wait are you on the piano?
I am at the live show, but not on the
studio recording. How many instruments do you play? Well? I
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played most of them very mediocrely. Um. You know, I've
never the only thing. I've never actually had a lesson
in any of them. But I've played drums since I
was two years old. I'm probably better at drums than anything. Um.
And then piano has been an acquired taste. Uh. And
really just to learn they have all a different way
to write a song, and be of all, just to
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be able to play my songs live at the show. Um.
And then I'll just dabble around on base and obviously
play guitar and sing too, so yeah, well done. Well
it is a great song. He's got checked out. Whiskey
is fine. You got to hear it, um, And it's
really about a hook up, let's be honest, So come on,
come on over, come on in the Whiskey is fine. Um.
(05:21):
In the new world though that we're living in right now,
like a hookup seems so foreign to me, Like you
don't want to hook up with anybody right now, you
just want to, like because you don't know who's got
what you got it? You got it? Yeah, or who
knows who you got? You gotta be careful these days.
Right before long, someone needs to write like come on
into my zoom room or something like. That's how the
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dating is happening now. I feel like, you know what's
funny is is um? You know, obviously touring keeps getting
backed up a little bit more and more just as
things unfold, and I'm not sure when we'll be able
to get back out. So we've been trying to think
of a new way to do it, and um, I'm
gonna do this kind of basically you know, you and
and five of your friends want to see me at
a show. Well, I'll send you a zoom link and
(06:05):
you guys get together and we'll have an hour in
the living room wherever it is. And so I think
we may end up calling it something like zoom On
in the Whiskey Spine or something like that. That's great
that you wrote the song on your mom's birthday. I heard,
which what's what day is that it was? It was June. Um,
that's my mom's birthday. Yeah, I remember that. I don't
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know why. I think my McCann and my girlfriend she
her mom made me a thing for Whiskey's fine and
she had she she called me and asked me the
date I wrote it on, um, and so I got
two looking back, and I remember that it was actually
on my mom's birthday. I remember I called her right after,
and she must have been so proud to write a
song about a hook up and whiskey. Isn't that weird?
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I don't. I never thought of that in any obviously.
I've kind of told people in interviews that this was
my mom's birthday and then then and this kind of
gets thrown back in my face every time. I'm like, yeah,
I definitely called mom about a song at two am.
Come then the Whiskey is Fine. It was. It is
a weird thing looking back, but my mom always she's
always had this opinion to me that I'm this perfect
child anyway, so it's good for me to throw things
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at her that make her realize, Okay, maybe there are
a couple of things that he does wrong. Well. Fun fact,
I was looking back on the day you released it,
and you released it on my birthday, so I don't
this is like the universe connecting in some weird way,
because I really do love the song. It's probably one
of my top five uh that's been released here you
(07:30):
know this year. Um, thank you. Can I change my
story to I'll just get my mom out of it
completely and say, you know what, I released it on
Cody at on birthday because I don't mind whiskey or hookups.
It makes a lot more sense this way. I like it. Um,
let's talk about Darius a little bit. I could hear
and you've written songs uh for him. In fact, one
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of them on the Hooting and the Blowfish Comeback album.
I could hear his voice on Whiskey's Fine too. As
I was learning that fact, toyed about Darius and you
were kind of your bond. Yeah. You know, I've always
been told that I don't really sound like anybody vocally,
and um, that is true for most people. Darius is
one of those people that I am pretty similar to.
We both have big, loud, kind of gritty voices and
(08:14):
and a lot of blues obviously, And so yeah, I've
been lucky enough to get Darius himself to record a
song on his last record. And then also, like you said,
Hooty and the Blowfish, And the funny thing about both
of those is I had never met at the time
these songs got recorded. I've never met Darius. And you
know how Nashville works, normally, it's you're in the room
(08:35):
with him or your friends with them. That's pretty much
the only way to get somebody to record your song.
And had never met him. He just heard those songs
and loved them and recorded them, which made them a
little bit more special to me because there was no
inside connection or anything like that. He obviously just loved it. Um.
But yeah, I would love to I would love to
hear him singing any of my songs really, but certainly
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Whiskey Fine. I think I think he'd loved that when
it sounds great on it. Maybe there's a collaboration. You know,
a lot of people are doing that. Like later with
the same song, they'll obviously have their, you know, their
version of it, but then later a colap happens and
maybe Darius sings the first. I don't know, I just
that I'm just I'm actually well, you know, I dream
over here too, And I've actually got another idea of
(09:17):
mine for that, because you know, my first tour ever
was with Ashley McBride um and it was me her
in High Valley, and I remember she used to she
was just the best human and she would come in. Obviously,
it's my first tour ever, so I'm just trying to
figure out what to do. And she would come in
the dressing room before the show and she'd hear this
warming up and Whiskey's Fine was always her favorite, so
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she would pop in. Sometimes she'd even stand outside the
door and just singing until someone noticed her. It's pretty funny,
but I always I always love that she did that
and that we would sing that song together. So I've
got this other dream in my head of maybe asking
her as we get going with the song to maybe
step in and do a version with me too. I
think that'd be cool. Well, I'm I'm saying loup rare
(10:00):
for you because I think you're so talented and I
want this song to make it. Like I feel like
I hate when songs get wasted, you know what I mean,
Like they get they get you know, record companies put
them out or whatever, and then they never get the
traction and they're great songs, they get lost somehow in
the molasses of charts or streaming or radio or whatever
it is. Uma and I just, yeah, you know, it's
(10:21):
sort of like inside pisses me off a little bit
at them. Well just you know, take your anger and
multiple times to your mine and uh, but you know
what I think. You know, obviously, as you know, in
the radio world, it's it's never a great time to
be a new artist. It's always going to be an
upfield battle, and especially throw code in a worldwide pandemic
on it, and it doesn't get any easier for sure.
But um, I think all we can do is put
(10:44):
our best foot forward. And I've always thought that this song,
Like I told my mom on a birthday that day,
I thought I'd written my first number one country radio.
I still believe that I've always wanted this song to
go to radio, and I'm so excited that it has
its chance now and I think I think it has
the power to be that breakout single that I need.
And uh, I'm excited to watch it and um, and
(11:05):
and thank you for being a part of it and
and sharing my sharing the anger and wanting the song
to go. Here's one and it being a gigantic success.
I saw where going back to Darius for a second,
he threw his uh sort of name in the hat
of like, let's bring major league baseball to Nashville. And then,
know you're a former baseball player. You played in the
College World Series back in two thousand nine, and I
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know you're serious about sports, So, um, what's your take
on that? Can we do you think we could ever
have major League Baseball in Nashville? I think it's Uh.
I can't get too far into details because I've actually
been a bit behind the scenes here on this. I've
actually seen future plans where they're drawing and where it
would be and everything for the team. UM. So yes,
I've already been a bit involved with the Nashville Stars
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or what they would be if they were able to
come here, so, um, I would love to be involved
in that. I'm still a big baseball fan. Um. Me
and McKennon have talked about going to every every baseball
stadium in the country one year, just to have like
a trip to a tour that's not music almost. Um,
but I would love to be involved in that, and
I think Nashville would eat it up. I mean you've
been to a Sounds game, right, Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
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I mean they're They're awesome, and so I think, uh,
there's a spot downtown there that would overlook downtown. And obviously,
I think Nashville is trending to be one of those
big cities anyway, and I think baseball could only baseball.
Baseball stadium only makes any city better. So I'm I'm
rooting for it. I hope it happens. I hope so too.
I'm a huge baseball fan. Braves fan. Um, who's your team? Well,
(12:29):
I grew up. I grew up a Braves fand because
Atlanta was kind of the closest to Mississippi where I
was safe for me South South Carolina, so we had
like no no teams except for the Braves. So, so
are you a big Chipper Jones guy or no, absolutely
Chipper Jones. And even going back, um, I remember my
dad and I Dale Murphy was a huge, a brave
(12:49):
star back in the day, and I remember going to
the old Fulton County Stadium and seeing a game and
like as a kid, it was like insane too to
see the stadium and see a live those are those
are some of my first memories. Are those those games?
Those Braves games. I remember I think I was ten
eleven or twelve years old somewhere around and there when
we would go a couple of times a year and
it was awesome. But and it funds a fun tie
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in with whiskey is fine is the week it came out,
there were two really cool things that happened. One was
that I remember it's sold, I'm not I'm sure the
actual number somewhere around like forty copies the league came out. Secondly,
Chipper Jones retweeted the song I remember when it came out,
and so that was way cooler than however many copies
(13:31):
it sold easily. That was that was like a big
moment for me, No kidding, that's awesome. Yeah, because I've
been number ten my whole life because the chipper right on.
I see, I didn't know that chipper Tali And that's interesting. Yeah,
the holidays are almost here, so let's talk about that
for a second. Um, the holidays finished the sevens here,
it's not the holidays without blank whiskey. Okay, that's a good.
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Do you have a mixer with your whiskey? Would you
like to mix it with? I love eggnog. I've gotten
in several conversations about this because most people just almost
gag at the at the word ecology. Um, but I
love it. Yeah, So it's it's really a thing I
have my parents goes really well with my parents house,
and in my head that's when I go home for Christmas.
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It just kind of pairs really love with that. So
other than that, normally a whiskey with a splash and
ginger ale. Guy, when I see your photo photos with
McKinnon on social media, I think you're like the perfect couple.
You're just like you aligned so nicely together and you're
just the right she's the right height for you, and
it's like, you know, it's like it's like kidding Barbie
a little bit um and she seems like from what
(14:37):
I've been able to, like, you know, you can glean
a little bit from a looking on social media. I
feel like she's a Hallmark Christmas movies kind of girl.
Uh has she dragged you into watching any of those, Charlie,
you have never been more nail on the head of
anything in your life than what you just said. She
is downstairs right now and it's gonna smile. And she
used me to say this, but yes, she is a
(14:59):
largely a Hallmark Christmas movie girl, and she has she has,
you say, dragged me into watching them. I'm not gonna lie.
I actually have a tendency to get into them a
little bit as well. Uh. I think it's just time
of the year. I'm not I'm not sitting there miserable
the whole time. It's what I'll say, I've had something
that I enjoyed. I have to I have to have
(15:19):
some whiskey to watch one. I feel like I need
to make it true. I have to like drink a
little bit just to kind of like And I'm I'm
one of those people who's a little bit of a cynic,
so I I tend to make like make fun of
it through most of the movie, like I'll pick out
you know here styles to make fun of her. Absolutely,
the plot, you know, is always a little bit predictable,
but it's always the same. It's it's not even it's
(15:40):
past predictable. It's just you know, there's nothing to even predict,
you know, before you press play on the movie, what's
gonna happen? But yeah, I'm I'm more of a romantic
than cynical, I think, so. I think that's why I'm
able to kind of get through them. But I can't
imagine being if you are in a cynical mood when
you put one of those on, you're you're screwed from
the get guy. And they make it show. But it's
a the with the lights and all the you know,
(16:01):
the Jenny's and every scene has like red and green
in the background. They don't, they don't have always you know,
been in television. So I look at stuff sometimes they
oh wow, they've they perfectly align the lights to be
right behind their heads with the red and the green
and the tree and like snow. It's just it's all
it is really well done. I will see that. Yes
(16:24):
they are they and obviously they work. I mean they
every year they're going to come back every single year
people up. Outside of the number one that we're aiming
for one, what other personal goals are you kind of
setting for yourself with with the new year almost here? Well,
lots of the music. Um. First of all, I think
there are a lot of things we haven't been able
to do this year, but writing songs has not been
(16:45):
one of them. I've actually written twice as many songs
as I usually would have written in a year, So UM,
We've got more more material than we would normally have,
and a lot of songs that I really really love
have come from this period. So UM, I would hopefully
hope for more releases than usual next year. Um. And
then a full record is another thing that I'm really
excited to make. All my favorite artists and know there's
(17:07):
different ways to do things. There's just put different EPs
out all year long. All of my favorite records and
artists have always put full records out. I think it's
just such a good look and it just kind of
establishes you. And hopefully we're able to do that kind
of on the tails of, like you said, Whiskey at
Radio being my first number one single later next year.
So we're gonna ride that in and then uh, last
(17:28):
but certainly not least, getting back on the road. Um,
I would love to transition from the zoom on in
the Whiskey's Fine to a real tour, uh would be
would be really great. So looking forward to all of that,
and and just having a different number at the end
of the date than two thousand twenty will be really nice. Man. Well,
good luck with all those things. I think you're so
(17:48):
muccio talented. Aside from that, you're such a good guy.
And um, I'm just I'm excited for your success and
I'm so glad you bought us this single because I
think you're right, it could be the breakout, the breakout
song for you, so I'm hoping for it. Well, thank you, buddy,
and thank you for those kind words and and for
the support on this thing, and and likewise about yourself.
And I hope you have a great holidays in Christmas,
(18:11):
and uh, I look forward to seeing you in person
in the new year. Yes, and my best to McKinnon
and your Family's y'all have a great, awesome holiday season
to merry Christmas. We'll see you seek you buddy, you too,
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(18:32):
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Podcasting. Welcome to Allen's. A lot of people ask me
who my favorite interviews are, Like, what artists do I
love to talk to him? Of course? Yeah, it's all
the A listeners are awesome. It's fun too, Let's sit
down with Luke Brian or Carrie Underwood. But I gotta
tell you, I love meeting new artists, um who are
(00:21):
talented and could be the next A list artist. And
one of those guys I met last year was Adam Doliak,
and I really liked his vibe. You know, he's got
all the makings of a big star. But I always
ask myself when I meet one of these new artists,
do they have the song, the song that's gonna take
them where they want to go, the number one chart
topper that brings them all the success they're dreaming of
(00:44):
and drives everything else. When I heard Adam's latest song,
Whiskey's Fine, I thought, man, this is the song for him.
So with that in mind, Adam is on the line
right now, I want to introuce you to him. Adam,
what's man? Hey, how are you doing? I'm great? How
are you buddy? I'm good? Um right on time, super punctual,
(01:05):
like you were welcome. You're gonna make your day a
little easier. You couldn't have been a second earlier or
later to make the time perfect where you having? Did
you need me to be late today? It's so I'm sorry. No.
I love punctuality. Um actually are you that way with everything? Uh? Yeah,
(01:25):
most things I do have a I have. It just
depends on what it is. If it's something like this,
I'm normally very punctual. If it's a right, I have
no problem pushing it five and ten minutes. And how
often are you writing with somebody else and making those appointments?
I mean, I know in music people may not realize
you make these sort of like writing appointments and you
meet someone it's yeah, yeah, it's every day. I mean normally,
(01:47):
you know, in the old world where we wrote in
person every day, it was it was actually every day, right,
normally at eleven o'clock sometimes ten um. But this year,
obviously it's been the year of honestly, you're just doing
good if you if everybody he agrees to not cancel
the right it's like, you know, especially right now we're
in November and December and it's already been such a
(02:08):
year where you can pretty much get away with canceling anything.
And so every day you kind of wake up and
you text your group of the two guys you're riding
with or girl, whoever it is, and you say, hey,
are we were good for today and just kind of
hold your breath for a minute, and a lot of times,
a lot of times it's like, yeah, let's just get
something in January next year. Who are your favorite people
to write with? I mean, who are your go to
(02:29):
you know what? They have kind of turned into more.
You know, in every room you have a writer and
you have kind of a producer type. Um, and so
I've kind of leaned on I love kind of the
older fellows. If they hear this, I hope they're not offended.
But take whisky is fine. For example, Uh Monty Criswell
who I wrote that song with. And Monty is probably
(02:50):
not sure of his exact age, mid forties, around fifty.
And obviously you wrote like I saw God today. Uh
some Eric Church loves me like Jesus does. He wrote that.
And you know, music back in the nineties or even
two thousand's was just a lot more lyrically driven, and
nobody was trying to be hip and cool and um,
(03:11):
so I use Moneys example, and some of these guys
that have been around for a while, uh Bob the
Pierro and Tom Douglas and you know, all these kind
of they've they've been doing it for a while and
they know what a good song is and they don't
really try to hit everything up and keep up with
the trends. And you know, me and my voice and
my style. Even when I tried to do the hip
thing and not do something that's sincere and genuine, people
(03:34):
can just read right through it and they can tell
that's not what I'm supposed to be doing. Um. And
so yea in life, yeah, I think so too. And
we're in such an age right now where people won't
real and raw stuff and and I think it's just
gotten easier than ever to be able to see through
when it's when it's not honest and genuine. So I've
(03:54):
always tried to keep that in mind. And obviously I
write with people of all calibers. Um, and I've tried
this thing and that thing, but I always go back
to the Monies and the Tom Douglas of the world,
just because I like, I love the lyrics they put
on something I'm able to bring, uh, like my producer
andrew S Gibbon or whoever it may be, to just
kind of maybe maybe you throw some hip, some current
(04:16):
aspects and on that side. But as far as the
writing of the song, keep it, keep it just what
it is, you know. I mean that's why I loved
Whiskey Is Fine. The first time I heard I was like, oh,
this is like a great first of all, a great
country song, but also like a modern sort of feel
to it. And with you wait are you on the piano?
I am at the live show, but not on the
studio recording. How many instruments do you play? Well? I
(04:39):
played most of them very mediocrely. Um. You know, I've
never the only thing. I've never actually had a lesson
in any of them. But I've played drums since I
was two years old. I'm probably better at drums than anything. Um.
And then piano has been an acquired taste. Uh. And
really just to learn they have all a different way
to write a song, and be of all, just to
(05:00):
be able to play my songs live at the show. Um.
And then I'll just dabble around on base and obviously
play guitar and sing too, so yeah, well done. Well
it is a great song. He's got checked out. Whiskey
is fine. You got to hear it, um, And it's
really about a hook up, let's be honest, So come on,
come on over, come on in the Whiskey is fine. Um.
(05:21):
In the new world though that we're living in right now,
like a hookup seems so foreign to me, Like you
don't want to hook up with anybody right now, you
just want to, like because you don't know who's got
what you got it? You got it? Yeah, or who
knows who you got? You gotta be careful these days.
Right before long, someone needs to write like come on
into my zoom room or something like. That's how the
(05:44):
dating is happening now. I feel like, you know what's
funny is is um? You know, obviously touring keeps getting
backed up a little bit more and more just as
things unfold, and I'm not sure when we'll be able
to get back out. So we've been trying to think
of a new way to do it, and um, I'm
gonna do this kind of basically you know, you and
and five of your friends want to see me at
a show. Well, I'll send you a zoom link and
(06:05):
you guys get together and we'll have an hour in
the living room wherever it is. And so I think
we may end up calling it something like zoom On
in the Whiskey Spine or something like that. That's great
that you wrote the song on your mom's birthday. I heard,
which what's what day is that it was? It was June. Um,
that's my mom's birthday. Yeah, I remember that. I don't
(06:25):
know why. I think my McCann and my girlfriend she
her mom made me a thing for Whiskey's fine and
she had she she called me and asked me the
date I wrote it on, um, and so I got
two looking back, and I remember that it was actually
on my mom's birthday. I remember I called her right after,
and she must have been so proud to write a
song about a hook up and whiskey. Isn't that weird?
(06:47):
I don't. I never thought of that in any obviously.
I've kind of told people in interviews that this was
my mom's birthday and then then and this kind of
gets thrown back in my face every time. I'm like, yeah,
I definitely called mom about a song at two am.
Come then the Whiskey is Fine. It was. It is
a weird thing looking back, but my mom always she's
always had this opinion to me that I'm this perfect
child anyway, so it's good for me to throw things
(07:10):
at her that make her realize, Okay, maybe there are
a couple of things that he does wrong. Well. Fun fact,
I was looking back on the day you released it,
and you released it on my birthday, so I don't
this is like the universe connecting in some weird way,
because I really do love the song. It's probably one
of my top five uh that's been released here you
(07:30):
know this year. Um, thank you. Can I change my
story to I'll just get my mom out of it
completely and say, you know what, I released it on
Cody at on birthday because I don't mind whiskey or hookups.
It makes a lot more sense this way. I like it. Um,
let's talk about Darius a little bit. I could hear
and you've written songs uh for him. In fact, one
(07:51):
of them on the Hooting and the Blowfish Comeback album.
I could hear his voice on Whiskey's Fine too. As
I was learning that fact, toyed about Darius and you
were kind of your bond. Yeah. You know, I've always
been told that I don't really sound like anybody vocally,
and um, that is true for most people. Darius is
one of those people that I am pretty similar to.
We both have big, loud, kind of gritty voices and
(08:14):
and a lot of blues obviously, And so yeah, I've
been lucky enough to get Darius himself to record a
song on his last record. And then also, like you said,
Hooty and the Blowfish, And the funny thing about both
of those is I had never met at the time
these songs got recorded. I've never met Darius. And you
know how Nashville works, normally, it's you're in the room
(08:35):
with him or your friends with them. That's pretty much
the only way to get somebody to record your song.
And had never met him. He just heard those songs
and loved them and recorded them, which made them a
little bit more special to me because there was no
inside connection or anything like that. He obviously just loved it. Um.
But yeah, I would love to I would love to
hear him singing any of my songs really, but certainly
(08:57):
Whiskey Fine. I think I think he'd loved that when
it sounds great on it. Maybe there's a collaboration. You know,
a lot of people are doing that. Like later with
the same song, they'll obviously have their, you know, their
version of it, but then later a colap happens and
maybe Darius sings the first. I don't know, I just
that I'm just I'm actually well, you know, I dream
over here too, And I've actually got another idea of
(09:17):
mine for that, because you know, my first tour ever
was with Ashley McBride um and it was me her
in High Valley, and I remember she used to she
was just the best human and she would come in. Obviously,
it's my first tour ever, so I'm just trying to
figure out what to do. And she would come in
the dressing room before the show and she'd hear this
warming up and Whiskey's Fine was always her favorite, so
(09:39):
she would pop in. Sometimes she'd even stand outside the
door and just singing until someone noticed her. It's pretty funny,
but I always I always love that she did that
and that we would sing that song together. So I've
got this other dream in my head of maybe asking
her as we get going with the song to maybe
step in and do a version with me too. I
think that'd be cool. Well, I'm I'm saying loup rare
(10:00):
for you because I think you're so talented and I
want this song to make it. Like I feel like
I hate when songs get wasted, you know what I mean,
Like they get they get you know, record companies put
them out or whatever, and then they never get the
traction and they're great songs, they get lost somehow in
the molasses of charts or streaming or radio or whatever
it is. Uma and I just, yeah, you know, it's
(10:21):
sort of like inside pisses me off a little bit
at them. Well just you know, take your anger and
multiple times to your mine and uh, but you know
what I think. You know, obviously, as you know, in
the radio world, it's it's never a great time to
be a new artist. It's always going to be an
upfield battle, and especially throw code in a worldwide pandemic
on it, and it doesn't get any easier for sure.
But um, I think all we can do is put
(10:44):
our best foot forward. And I've always thought that this song,
Like I told my mom on a birthday that day,
I thought I'd written my first number one country radio.
I still believe that I've always wanted this song to
go to radio, and I'm so excited that it has
its chance now and I think I think it has
the power to be that breakout single that I need.
And uh, I'm excited to watch it and um, and
(11:05):
and thank you for being a part of it and
and sharing my sharing the anger and wanting the song
to go. Here's one and it being a gigantic success.
I saw where going back to Darius for a second,
he threw his uh sort of name in the hat
of like, let's bring major league baseball to Nashville. And then,
know you're a former baseball player. You played in the
College World Series back in two thousand nine, and I
(11:27):
know you're serious about sports, So, um, what's your take
on that? Can we do you think we could ever
have major League Baseball in Nashville? I think it's Uh.
I can't get too far into details because I've actually
been a bit behind the scenes here on this. I've
actually seen future plans where they're drawing and where it
would be and everything for the team. UM. So yes,
I've already been a bit involved with the Nashville Stars
(11:47):
or what they would be if they were able to
come here, so, um, I would love to be involved
in that. I'm still a big baseball fan. Um. Me
and McKennon have talked about going to every every baseball
stadium in the country one year, just to have like
a trip to a tour that's not music almost. Um,
but I would love to be involved in that, and
I think Nashville would eat it up. I mean you've
been to a Sounds game, right, Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
(12:08):
I mean they're They're awesome, and so I think, uh,
there's a spot downtown there that would overlook downtown. And obviously,
I think Nashville is trending to be one of those
big cities anyway, and I think baseball could only baseball.
Baseball stadium only makes any city better. So I'm I'm
rooting for it. I hope it happens. I hope so too.
I'm a huge baseball fan. Braves fan. Um, who's your team? Well,
(12:29):
I grew up. I grew up a Braves fand because
Atlanta was kind of the closest to Mississippi where I
was safe for me South South Carolina, so we had
like no no teams except for the Braves. So, so
are you a big Chipper Jones guy or no, absolutely
Chipper Jones. And even going back, um, I remember my
dad and I Dale Murphy was a huge, a brave
(12:49):
star back in the day, and I remember going to
the old Fulton County Stadium and seeing a game and
like as a kid, it was like insane too to
see the stadium and see a live those are those
are some of my first memories. Are those those games?
Those Braves games. I remember I think I was ten
eleven or twelve years old somewhere around and there when
we would go a couple of times a year and
it was awesome. But and it funds a fun tie
(13:11):
in with whiskey is fine is the week it came out,
there were two really cool things that happened. One was
that I remember it's sold, I'm not I'm sure the
actual number somewhere around like forty copies the league came out. Secondly,
Chipper Jones retweeted the song I remember when it came out,
and so that was way cooler than however many copies
(13:31):
it sold easily. That was that was like a big
moment for me, No kidding, that's awesome. Yeah, because I've
been number ten my whole life because the chipper right on.
I see, I didn't know that chipper Tali And that's interesting. Yeah,
the holidays are almost here, so let's talk about that
for a second. Um, the holidays finished the sevens here,
it's not the holidays without blank whiskey. Okay, that's a good.
(13:53):
Do you have a mixer with your whiskey? Would you
like to mix it with? I love eggnog. I've gotten
in several conversations about this because most people just almost
gag at the at the word ecology. Um, but I
love it. Yeah, So it's it's really a thing I
have my parents goes really well with my parents house,
and in my head that's when I go home for Christmas.
(14:14):
It just kind of pairs really love with that. So
other than that, normally a whiskey with a splash and
ginger ale. Guy, when I see your photo photos with
McKinnon on social media, I think you're like the perfect couple.
You're just like you aligned so nicely together and you're
just the right she's the right height for you, and
it's like, you know, it's like it's like kidding Barbie
a little bit um and she seems like from what
(14:37):
I've been able to, like, you know, you can glean
a little bit from a looking on social media. I
feel like she's a Hallmark Christmas movies kind of girl.
Uh has she dragged you into watching any of those, Charlie,
you have never been more nail on the head of
anything in your life than what you just said. She
is downstairs right now and it's gonna smile. And she
used me to say this, but yes, she is a
(14:59):
largely a Hallmark Christmas movie girl, and she has she has,
you say, dragged me into watching them. I'm not gonna lie.
I actually have a tendency to get into them a
little bit as well. Uh. I think it's just time
of the year. I'm not I'm not sitting there miserable
the whole time. It's what I'll say, I've had something
that I enjoyed. I have to I have to have
(15:19):
some whiskey to watch one. I feel like I need
to make it true. I have to like drink a
little bit just to kind of like And I'm I'm
one of those people who's a little bit of a cynic,
so I I tend to make like make fun of
it through most of the movie, like I'll pick out
you know here styles to make fun of her. Absolutely,
the plot, you know, is always a little bit predictable,
but it's always the same. It's it's not even it's
(15:40):
past predictable. It's just you know, there's nothing to even predict,
you know, before you press play on the movie, what's
gonna happen? But yeah, I'm I'm more of a romantic
than cynical, I think, so. I think that's why I'm
able to kind of get through them. But I can't
imagine being if you are in a cynical mood when
you put one of those on, you're you're screwed from
the get guy. And they make it show. But it's
a the with the lights and all the you know,
(16:01):
the Jenny's and every scene has like red and green
in the background. They don't, they don't have always you know,
been in television. So I look at stuff sometimes they
oh wow, they've they perfectly align the lights to be
right behind their heads with the red and the green
and the tree and like snow. It's just it's all
it is really well done. I will see that. Yes
(16:24):
they are they and obviously they work. I mean they
every year they're going to come back every single year
people up. Outside of the number one that we're aiming
for one, what other personal goals are you kind of
setting for yourself with with the new year almost here? Well,
lots of the music. Um. First of all, I think
there are a lot of things we haven't been able
to do this year, but writing songs has not been
(16:45):
one of them. I've actually written twice as many songs
as I usually would have written in a year, So UM,
We've got more more material than we would normally have,
and a lot of songs that I really really love
have come from this period. So UM, I would hopefully
hope for more releases than usual next year. Um. And
then a full record is another thing that I'm really
excited to make. All my favorite artists and know there's
(17:07):
different ways to do things. There's just put different EPs
out all year long. All of my favorite records and
artists have always put full records out. I think it's
just such a good look and it just kind of
establishes you. And hopefully we're able to do that kind
of on the tails of, like you said, Whiskey at
Radio being my first number one single later next year.
So we're gonna ride that in and then uh, last
(17:28):
but certainly not least, getting back on the road. Um,
I would love to transition from the zoom on in
the Whiskey's Fine to a real tour, uh would be
would be really great. So looking forward to all of that,
and and just having a different number at the end
of the date than two thousand twenty will be really nice. Man. Well,
good luck with all those things. I think you're so
(17:48):
muccio talented. Aside from that, you're such a good guy.
And um, I'm just I'm excited for your success and
I'm so glad you bought us this single because I
think you're right, it could be the breakout, the breakout
song for you, so I'm hoping for it. Well, thank you, buddy,
and thank you for those kind words and and for
the support on this thing, and and likewise about yourself.
And I hope you have a great holidays in Christmas,
(18:11):
and uh, I look forward to seeing you in person
in the new year. Yes, and my best to McKinnon
and your Family's y'all have a great, awesome holiday season
to merry Christmas. We'll see you seek you buddy, you too,
see Yeah, thanks for listening to Cody Cast. Follow Cody
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