September 30, 2017 • 13 mins
There are not many people whom are universally recognized by one name but this lady has earned it. I'm so proud to share this podcast, which is really just a conversation between two girl friends. Wynonna is so very special to me. Not only is she a singer, a song writer, an artist, and an icon but she is truly just a gal like you and me. Check out her new music, her tour and her upcoming projects at Wynonna.com
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This podcast episode is sponsored by the amazing people at
your Local Area y m c A. When communities are strong,
our country is strong, and I'm so glad there's a
place where everyone comes together, where folks find common ground
from job readiness to safe space. The Why fills the
(00:25):
gaps in cities and towns across our country. They can't
do it without your support. For a better us, donate
to your Local Why at y m C a dot
net slash give. I am calling Why Nona. You know
it's cool is when you're so famous you don't need
(00:49):
a last name. Just Why Nona. She's got a new
album and a new song out and I can't wait
to talk to her, and she just a love well. Well, well,
hey girlfriend, So I just watched uh your new videos.
(01:18):
Damn you look good from the neck up. I'm doing
pretty good, sister. I thought you looked good from the
top of your head to the tip of your toes. Well,
I feel good, you know. You know, as girls, you know,
we go back and forth lock to with us. Yeah,
mine's mostly going forth, not going back so much, you
(01:43):
know what. I'm on a new program called give Yourself
a Break. There you go. Yeah, that's the program we
all need to be on. Back to you, back to
your music, Back to this new song that we're playing.
Keeps me alive. I love it. I love the the hunting, soulful,
(02:04):
just love that pours out that well. I'm trying this
new thing called vulnerability. Sideline Winona is tender headline. You know,
get get this. I well, last time I saw you,
we're trying to be well, we're out. We're already alpha females.
(02:28):
You know, we're running our own business. We're doing things
our way because we somehow got the message that we
could do what we wanted to do our way. And
then all of a sudden, one day, my kids left
home and I found myself crying uncontrollably for hours at
a time, thinking what is going on with me? Is
(02:49):
it hormonal? Is it? And then and I took a
walk in the woods, and Delilah, it just hit me,
Oh my god, this is life. This is this is
part of the circle of life, and the give and
the take and then let go and the embrace and
the ebb and the flow and all that. And I
got myself caught up in all of it, and I
started to write and record songs that come very close
(03:14):
to my situation in life, as we are autobiographical and
as an artist. I don't know, I just let it fly.
I guess I just started singing from a different place.
This is the deal. You know. The heart has all
these different chambers, Well so does I think my my diaphragm.
I have this angst time in my life where I
remember singing from my toe nails from a place of pain.
(03:37):
I had, you know, years where I was flying high
and money was flowing in and I was successful in
number one's and awards, and that was that right. So
now the chamber I'm singing from is just this vulnerable
place of just wanting to be that eighteen year old
girl with a guitar and feeling life again, you know,
and sometimes it's up and sometimes it's down, and I
(03:59):
think people will relate to that. So last time we talked,
you had just gone through probably the darkest days of
your life, and there was a glimmer in your eye
that I hadn't seen in a long time, and uh,
a lightness to your spirit. I guess that's the best
way to like, like light was just pouring in and
(04:21):
pouring out simultaneously. Huh. And I remember thinking, oh my god,
something's going on with you. But we didn't have a
long time to talk or share. So is that light
still still pouring? Is it Is it time to talk
about it? I think I think more so now than ever,
my dear. Yes, we haven't talked in a while, and
(04:42):
when we do, we tend to go straight to the Okay,
it's the bottom line here, um, I mean, it's it's interesting.
Girls don't sit around and talk about you know, what
do you make after taxes? And hey, you know, how's
your golf score? We know you and I go right
to Okay, which one of your kids in trouble now?
Or are you happy? Are you happy? Um? Are you
(05:05):
in love? Do you have joy in your life? And
so I look, I just went through a really, really
tough here, probably one of the toughest in my adult life.
And it has nothing to do with the music business.
But what has happened is, you know, everything from the
word to reading Burnet Brown. She sent me her book
and I started reading and it's called Daring Greatly and
(05:28):
it talks about um. And for me, what I did
was I applied it to daring to be authentic and
daring to be myself, which is really scary because you
think am I enough? You know, you go through all
these things where you think am I worthy enough? Because
I don't know. Growing up, I always wondered am I
(05:49):
good enough? Am I smart enough? Am I pretty enough?
Because I always had Mom and Ashley and they were
always um thin and popular, and I was always kind
of the misfit it and free spirited. And you know what, though, Delilah,
it's actually turned out to be that being free spirit,
it gives me permission to be unique, to be myself,
(06:10):
to follow my heart, to not have to conform. And
I'll tell you what something's going on. You're right, You're right,
something is going on the light even in the darkness,
the light is still there. And I think it's the
hope and the faith that I got from my Mamma
when it was really down and dark and oh my gosh,
I could complain and be the victim. I thought a
lot about you know, all my heroes, you know, from
(06:32):
my Angelo to all these women I've met along the way,
you being part of that. I know that you're a survivor.
You're not a victim. I know you. I know that
you're not one to sit around and complain. You might
have a bad day, but it's not a bad life,
you know what I mean. I have such a blessed
life and all those things that you're you're talking about
(06:53):
is I'm going through my list in my head, you know, abuse,
and my folks loved me fiercely, and I'm at the
place of my life where I can say, I can
honestly say they did the best that they could with
the information and the tools that they absolutely, absolutely, absolutely,
but that doesn't negate the fact that there was incredible
(07:13):
craziness going on, you know, inside those four walls and
outside those four walls, and a lot of just real
sick dysfunction and function. I think, I think you're right
with that word. I grew up in country music in
the eighties. If we go back to that, I remember
going from literally, um, the Appalachian way of life, welfare, Uh,
(07:36):
single parent, Um, we had one car that broke down,
you know, depending on the the day, you know, did
it run well, did we get where we were needing
to go, or did we stay home? Um? I went
from that to opening for the Legends of country music,
and that's weird, and I don't know that I can
ever really explain what it's like to go from having
(08:00):
a knockdown drag out with my mom over the fact
that she thinks I have on too much makeup to
walking in and saying Hello, Johnny Cash and you know
it's the c m A. And I'm hey, Dolly, Hey Loretta.
And you know that's just weird, Delilah, that's just a
weird because I'm eighteen years old. You know, I was
supposed to be talking to my mom about boys, or hey,
(08:22):
can I have fifty dollars to help with my rent
this month? Or whatever? But instead we're on the road.
We're waking up in Vegas. Um our names are in
the headlines. You know, our records are going number one,
And you're right, it's a strange, uh life to try
to figure out I'm eighteen years old. When you're eighteen,
your brain is not formed. You're going through all your
(08:43):
angst and all your stuff with boys. I remember breaking
up with my boy friend that I had had um
after high school for years, when Mama, He's Crazy was
going number one on the charts. Now you explain those
two things happening happening simultaneously. Yeah, there's just no way
to wrap your head around. Now, you just walked through it.
(09:04):
And what you do is you walk through it, you
hold your head up high. And I remember hearing this once,
act as if and that doesn't mean live a fake life.
It just means act as if because the bottom line
is you're fundamentally okay. I remember my mama one time
I was flailing around having a tantrum. I probably was
three or four, and she picked me up and she
(09:24):
kissed me and she said, you're okay, and she placed
me down on the ground and I just it just
stopped right there. And I remember that, and I've taken
that with me all through my success. You're okay, You're
everything else sucks. Maybe everything sucks, but you know what,
I'm here and I'm not going to complain. Life is
(09:46):
a blessing when you look. You have to look for
it sometimes, in my opinion, I told Jennie the other day, said,
sometimes I have to wake up and maybe I can
only pick one thing that I'm grateful for, but that
one thing will get me to the next thing, and
then that next thing will get me to the next thing. Look,
it's your choice, man, you gotta decide whether you're um,
you know, the glass is half full or half empty,
(10:07):
and it's your choice. It is our choice, and for
you and I, it doesn't matter if the glasses half
are half empty because we have like a bazillion people
counting on us, and so it doesn't matter how bad
our day is or what we're going through, we still
have to pick ourselves up, put our lipstick on, rat
our hair, and and smiled because we don't have a choice.
(10:30):
I mean, if if you crumble and you fall down,
or I crumble and I fall down, how many people
have we wrapped our arms around that we're taking care
of because you're a mama bear. I'm a mama bear,
not just to our bonus kids, but to our employees
and our staff and our band. Speaking of band, tell
me about Big Noise. The Big Noise just became the
(10:50):
band name just because it was It made sense because
these four I'm down to four. I used to have eleven.
And you know what less is more, sister, it's it's amazing.
These four guys make it sound so amazing. I don't
need all that, and so it's like simplified, simplified, simplified.
I don't know about you, but I'm getting so tired
(11:10):
of having to bigger, better, faster, more is the American way,
it seems, and I'm just tired, and so I just said,
you know what, honey, let's get down to where we're
having fun and we don't have to worry about the
numbers part right, because I know you get it. I
know you understand it's much more simpler with less people.
I love this band. I mean, they literally are my family.
I spend more time with them than I do my relatives.
(11:32):
And we're a tribe and we go around and we
make as much noise as we can. We played in
a valley. It was nuts, it was crazy, it was
a festival. It was life, it was messy, it was people.
Um look, we weren't in a nice theater with air conditioning.
Let's just put it that way. And I had more
fun with these people because they're real and they are
(11:55):
the kind of people I come from. First of all,
these mountain people. They reminded me of that, and I
had all fulme playing there than I would Carnegie Hall.
I love Carnegie Hall. I've been there, done that. But
what I'm loving right now, Delilah, is all these festivals
are playing now that we're considered to be in the
Americana world. Um, we're being accepted and welcomed into that,
(12:15):
you know the world of of uh. It's a little
bit more folksy and outdoor theaters and blah blah blah
blah blah. I'm just you know what, I'm grateful, man,
I've been doing this thirty five years. I have a
place to belong and you just said that it's it's
it's belonging and having a purpose for me. And I'll
go anywhere. I mean today, Um, we're inside, next day,
(12:37):
we're outside. One day, we're at a county fair. The
next day. You know, we're playing uh for the military.
It just doesn't matter, man, I'll set up anywhere. I
don't care. You just want to bless people and love
people and share your music. I do. I do. That's
That's what I've I've promised God is that I would
quit well, try to quit complaining. And every time I
want to come, I'm supposed to say the word hallelujah.
(12:59):
Based on my husband, Um a lot, Oh God, I
love you. I love you too. Dwilah, slow down and
live some more. Where you live
This podcast episode is sponsored by the amazing people at
your Local Area y m c A. When communities are strong,
our country is strong, and I'm so glad there's a
place where everyone comes together, where folks find common ground
from job readiness to safe space. The Why fills the
(00:25):
gaps in cities and towns across our country. They can't
do it without your support. For a better us, donate
to your Local Why at y m C a dot
net slash give. I am calling Why Nona. You know
it's cool is when you're so famous you don't need
(00:49):
a last name. Just Why Nona. She's got a new
album and a new song out and I can't wait
to talk to her, and she just a love well. Well, well,
hey girlfriend, So I just watched uh your new videos.
(01:18):
Damn you look good from the neck up. I'm doing
pretty good, sister. I thought you looked good from the
top of your head to the tip of your toes. Well,
I feel good, you know. You know, as girls, you know,
we go back and forth lock to with us. Yeah,
mine's mostly going forth, not going back so much, you
(01:43):
know what. I'm on a new program called give Yourself
a Break. There you go. Yeah, that's the program we
all need to be on. Back to you, back to
your music, Back to this new song that we're playing.
Keeps me alive. I love it. I love the the hunting, soulful,
(02:04):
just love that pours out that well. I'm trying this
new thing called vulnerability. Sideline Winona is tender headline. You know,
get get this. I well, last time I saw you,
we're trying to be well, we're out. We're already alpha females.
(02:28):
You know, we're running our own business. We're doing things
our way because we somehow got the message that we
could do what we wanted to do our way. And
then all of a sudden, one day, my kids left
home and I found myself crying uncontrollably for hours at
a time, thinking what is going on with me? Is
(02:49):
it hormonal? Is it? And then and I took a
walk in the woods, and Delilah, it just hit me,
Oh my god, this is life. This is this is
part of the circle of life, and the give and
the take and then let go and the embrace and
the ebb and the flow and all that. And I
got myself caught up in all of it, and I
started to write and record songs that come very close
(03:14):
to my situation in life, as we are autobiographical and
as an artist. I don't know, I just let it fly.
I guess I just started singing from a different place.
This is the deal. You know. The heart has all
these different chambers, Well so does I think my my diaphragm.
I have this angst time in my life where I
remember singing from my toe nails from a place of pain.
(03:37):
I had, you know, years where I was flying high
and money was flowing in and I was successful in
number one's and awards, and that was that right. So
now the chamber I'm singing from is just this vulnerable
place of just wanting to be that eighteen year old
girl with a guitar and feeling life again, you know,
and sometimes it's up and sometimes it's down, and I
(03:59):
think people will relate to that. So last time we talked,
you had just gone through probably the darkest days of
your life, and there was a glimmer in your eye
that I hadn't seen in a long time, and uh,
a lightness to your spirit. I guess that's the best
way to like, like light was just pouring in and
(04:21):
pouring out simultaneously. Huh. And I remember thinking, oh my god,
something's going on with you. But we didn't have a
long time to talk or share. So is that light
still still pouring? Is it Is it time to talk
about it? I think I think more so now than ever,
my dear. Yes, we haven't talked in a while, and
(04:42):
when we do, we tend to go straight to the Okay,
it's the bottom line here, um, I mean, it's it's interesting.
Girls don't sit around and talk about you know, what
do you make after taxes? And hey, you know, how's
your golf score? We know you and I go right
to Okay, which one of your kids in trouble now?
Or are you happy? Are you happy? Um? Are you
(05:05):
in love? Do you have joy in your life? And
so I look, I just went through a really, really
tough here, probably one of the toughest in my adult life.
And it has nothing to do with the music business.
But what has happened is, you know, everything from the
word to reading Burnet Brown. She sent me her book
and I started reading and it's called Daring Greatly and
(05:28):
it talks about um. And for me, what I did
was I applied it to daring to be authentic and
daring to be myself, which is really scary because you
think am I enough? You know, you go through all
these things where you think am I worthy enough? Because
I don't know. Growing up, I always wondered am I
(05:49):
good enough? Am I smart enough? Am I pretty enough?
Because I always had Mom and Ashley and they were
always um thin and popular, and I was always kind
of the misfit it and free spirited. And you know what, though, Delilah,
it's actually turned out to be that being free spirit,
it gives me permission to be unique, to be myself,
(06:10):
to follow my heart, to not have to conform. And
I'll tell you what something's going on. You're right, You're right,
something is going on the light even in the darkness,
the light is still there. And I think it's the
hope and the faith that I got from my Mamma
when it was really down and dark and oh my gosh,
I could complain and be the victim. I thought a
lot about you know, all my heroes, you know, from
(06:32):
my Angelo to all these women I've met along the way,
you being part of that. I know that you're a survivor.
You're not a victim. I know you. I know that
you're not one to sit around and complain. You might
have a bad day, but it's not a bad life,
you know what I mean. I have such a blessed
life and all those things that you're you're talking about
(06:53):
is I'm going through my list in my head, you know, abuse,
and my folks loved me fiercely, and I'm at the
place of my life where I can say, I can
honestly say they did the best that they could with
the information and the tools that they absolutely, absolutely, absolutely,
but that doesn't negate the fact that there was incredible
(07:13):
craziness going on, you know, inside those four walls and
outside those four walls, and a lot of just real
sick dysfunction and function. I think, I think you're right
with that word. I grew up in country music in
the eighties. If we go back to that, I remember
going from literally, um, the Appalachian way of life, welfare, Uh,
(07:36):
single parent, Um, we had one car that broke down,
you know, depending on the the day, you know, did
it run well, did we get where we were needing
to go, or did we stay home? Um? I went
from that to opening for the Legends of country music,
and that's weird, and I don't know that I can
ever really explain what it's like to go from having
(08:00):
a knockdown drag out with my mom over the fact
that she thinks I have on too much makeup to
walking in and saying Hello, Johnny Cash and you know
it's the c m A. And I'm hey, Dolly, Hey Loretta.
And you know that's just weird, Delilah, that's just a
weird because I'm eighteen years old. You know, I was
supposed to be talking to my mom about boys, or hey,
(08:22):
can I have fifty dollars to help with my rent
this month? Or whatever? But instead we're on the road.
We're waking up in Vegas. Um our names are in
the headlines. You know, our records are going number one,
And you're right, it's a strange, uh life to try
to figure out I'm eighteen years old. When you're eighteen,
your brain is not formed. You're going through all your
(08:43):
angst and all your stuff with boys. I remember breaking
up with my boy friend that I had had um
after high school for years, when Mama, He's Crazy was
going number one on the charts. Now you explain those
two things happening happening simultaneously. Yeah, there's just no way
to wrap your head around. Now, you just walked through it.
(09:04):
And what you do is you walk through it, you
hold your head up high. And I remember hearing this once,
act as if and that doesn't mean live a fake life.
It just means act as if because the bottom line
is you're fundamentally okay. I remember my mama one time
I was flailing around having a tantrum. I probably was
three or four, and she picked me up and she
(09:24):
kissed me and she said, you're okay, and she placed
me down on the ground and I just it just
stopped right there. And I remember that, and I've taken
that with me all through my success. You're okay, You're
everything else sucks. Maybe everything sucks, but you know what,
I'm here and I'm not going to complain. Life is
(09:46):
a blessing when you look. You have to look for
it sometimes, in my opinion, I told Jennie the other day, said,
sometimes I have to wake up and maybe I can
only pick one thing that I'm grateful for, but that
one thing will get me to the next thing, and
then that next thing will get me to the next thing. Look,
it's your choice, man, you gotta decide whether you're um,
you know, the glass is half full or half empty,
(10:07):
and it's your choice. It is our choice, and for
you and I, it doesn't matter if the glasses half
are half empty because we have like a bazillion people
counting on us, and so it doesn't matter how bad
our day is or what we're going through, we still
have to pick ourselves up, put our lipstick on, rat
our hair, and and smiled because we don't have a choice.
(10:30):
I mean, if if you crumble and you fall down,
or I crumble and I fall down, how many people
have we wrapped our arms around that we're taking care
of because you're a mama bear. I'm a mama bear,
not just to our bonus kids, but to our employees
and our staff and our band. Speaking of band, tell
me about Big Noise. The Big Noise just became the
(10:50):
band name just because it was It made sense because
these four I'm down to four. I used to have eleven.
And you know what less is more, sister, it's it's amazing.
These four guys make it sound so amazing. I don't
need all that, and so it's like simplified, simplified, simplified.
I don't know about you, but I'm getting so tired
(11:10):
of having to bigger, better, faster, more is the American way,
it seems, and I'm just tired, and so I just said,
you know what, honey, let's get down to where we're
having fun and we don't have to worry about the
numbers part right, because I know you get it. I
know you understand it's much more simpler with less people.
I love this band. I mean, they literally are my family.
I spend more time with them than I do my relatives.
(11:32):
And we're a tribe and we go around and we
make as much noise as we can. We played in
a valley. It was nuts, it was crazy, it was
a festival. It was life, it was messy, it was people.
Um look, we weren't in a nice theater with air conditioning.
Let's just put it that way. And I had more
fun with these people because they're real and they are
(11:55):
the kind of people I come from. First of all,
these mountain people. They reminded me of that, and I
had all fulme playing there than I would Carnegie Hall.
I love Carnegie Hall. I've been there, done that. But
what I'm loving right now, Delilah, is all these festivals
are playing now that we're considered to be in the
Americana world. Um, we're being accepted and welcomed into that,
(12:15):
you know the world of of uh. It's a little
bit more folksy and outdoor theaters and blah blah blah
blah blah. I'm just you know what, I'm grateful, man,
I've been doing this thirty five years. I have a
place to belong and you just said that it's it's
it's belonging and having a purpose for me. And I'll
go anywhere. I mean today, Um, we're inside, next day,
(12:37):
we're outside. One day, we're at a county fair. The
next day. You know, we're playing uh for the military.
It just doesn't matter, man, I'll set up anywhere. I
don't care. You just want to bless people and love
people and share your music. I do. I do. That's
That's what I've I've promised God is that I would
quit well, try to quit complaining. And every time I
want to come, I'm supposed to say the word hallelujah.
(12:59):
Based on my husband, Um a lot, Oh God, I
love you. I love you too. Dwilah, slow down and
live some more. Where you live
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Delilah
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