August 3, 2021 • 24 mins
Launch seems to be a key word these days. The richest men in the world are launching their projects and themselves into space, while here on earth, our Nashville Stars are launching new musical projects. In this Nashville Chat, we’ll connect with Gabby Barrett about her new project, and we’ll discover she just may be the last to actually put a footprint on the moon. Carly Pearce is “ over the moon” as she becomes the newest Opry member, our longtime friend Clay Walker is launching his new project with a path from Texas to Tennessee, plus the latest from Parker McCollum and Jackson Michelson. Settle in for some very interesting revelations. Ready ? 5-4-3-2-1.....CHAT !
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Crook and Chase and Nashville Chats. Charlie and Lourien here
back in the studio from Music Row. And it's been
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pretty exciting. I think as far as the space style
Adventures of Billionaires and everybody else, I love, I love
the title that you gave this podcast today. Well go
ahead and say it. Okay, look up in the sky,
it's a bird, it's a plane, it's a billionaire. Yeah,
all right, sorry Superman had to do that. But would
you go in one of those capsules like they, you know,
(01:49):
Branson And I think I would because you don't really
have to have any training. They said that the most
that you have to do to prepare is to get
measured for your space suit. Okay, well you want to
look good by the way, you know, those new spacesuits
that the guys are actually wearing, the astronauts, they look
like lego man. Don't think, don't think. Could they come
(02:09):
up with something better than that that's just me. But
now I thought would okay, so you would go up
But the thing is, I like the I like the
fact that Wally Funk, who's eighty two years old, she
was one of the women trained never got in space.
She got a chance to go up there. I thought
that was heartwarming. And the eighteen year old one up
lottery or something, well he actually he was a runner up. Money. Well,
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his parents are hugely rich. Okay, so yeah, so they
paid for him to go. Okay, so he got up there.
You know, he's eighteen years old. But it's it's kind
of cool to see the different apparatus is they used
to to reach space. But nonetheless, apparatus is a word
or is it apparat Hi, Charlie, both of them. Maybe
(02:52):
we should google that. Well, we're not gonna miss that
right now. You guys can google it later. But it's interesting.
I don't know that I would pay that much just
for the like a four or five minute ride, like
Basils said, of course, with Branson, you see the rocket launch.
That's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. So yeah, anyway,
it'd be ready for I guess civilian space rides and
(03:13):
sometimes well this is all the talk. Now, I was
out last week when you were talking with Gabby Barrett
and Clay Walker and some of these folks, and uh,
and I noticed that you all had it was still
the topic of conversation for all of you. So we're
talking about footprints on the moon, and Moon has mentioned.
There's so much emphasis on civilian space travel these days.
I don't know if you saw basils and then, Sir
Richard Branson quite a week or so ago, would you
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care to literally put some footprints on the moon? Would
you go to space? Now? I don't think. I don't
think that's for me. I am more I am. I
would love to sing about it for the rest of
my life. But I don't think that I can get
a rocket ship and go that far up in this guy.
I'm so. I'm a superclustrophobic person as well, like I
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get very scared in small spaces, So I don't think
I can do it. So the most daredevil thing you've
ever done is being on an elevator probably, Yeah, and
I've gotten stuck on an elevator too, which was not fun.
But yes, why do you handle that? I mean, if
you understand clustrophobia is but when you get stuck on
something like that, Oh my goodness, what do you do? Yeah?
(04:17):
And it was right before a show too, it was
really Yeah. I was with a few family members on
the elevator as well, and it was scary. I'm not
gonna lie. I was thinking about all the movies and
the stuff where people are like, oh, you run out
of you know, oxygen on the elevator and because you're
stuck in there. But I don't think that actually, I
don't think that actually happens, you run out of oxygen.
I don't know. But anyways, I was praying a lot
(04:40):
and thankfully we we got out of the elevator, so
that was cut. Oh my biggest fear. I've never been
stuck in an elevator. Don't want to be well. And
while Gabby was talking there, you asked Jennifer our producer
over here as social producer, and you said, you've been.
You were trapped an elevator for what forty minutes? It's
the mt she zoned out. She's got her heads that
(05:01):
we're talking about now, she's listening to the crooks. Oh yeah,
that's what's what she's supposed to be doing. Okay, okay,
can we go back, though, I want to go back
with Gabby since I didn't get to talk to her
this time as you did. I the door, the idea
of this song her her new single, Footprints on the Moon.
I just think we need to be reminded that things
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that so often in our own brains seem impossible really
aren't all right. Not to the song Footprints on the Moon.
It's a go get them song of encouragement. That's the
way I look at it. So how is the song
personal for you? And the reason I bring that up
as a co writer, which particular lyrics came directly from
your heart because you were a co writer on this um.
(05:45):
I don't know if I can say a specific line.
I think everybody kind of adds a few words here
and there. But one of the ones that I think
I'm almost positive that I came up with was everybody
says that you can't tell you do so, because that
was always a big problem for me coming up is
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going through school a lot of I had a lot
of trouble in school and trying to pursue this big
music dream that everybody thought was insane and never you're
going to happen, and it's sad. Even the teachers weren't
supportive of that, and so it was really hard. So
I always just say, you know, everybody says that you
can't until you do, and then when you're there, they're like, oh,
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I was always you know, rooting for her and saw
that and it was like, well, that wasn't true. And
so that's definitely a line that strikes me. But with
this song, it's a really important one to me because
it kind of completes the trilogy of the first three
singles that I put out, like about myself. You're really
getting to know me through music with I hoping about
heartbreaking loss and then the good ones being about finding
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love and and finding hope having a baby, and now
this song is another part of me where I wanted
to be very encouraging and uplifting too. People that have
big dreams there and are in that same spot boy
she confident or one she is well, And you know,
I like people like that because when you see them
having strength within themselves, I think that that sort of spreads.
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It's like fairy dust, well, and it spreads to other people. Well,
you gotta watch for the fairy dust, of course, But okay,
now to our buddy Clay Walker. Yeah. The thing fascinating
about Clay we first met up with him what I
think it was, or even before, man, Yeah, probably he
looks the same. That's what's upset. He looks How is
(07:36):
this possible that this man decades later still look he
looks hot, He looks and he's exfoliating, he's moisturizing, he's
doing all that crap that you guys do that men
never do. So that's why it looks so good. But
he just released his twelfth studio album. As a matter
of fact, we've always had a lot of fun to
Clay Away, just kicking back and have a lot of fun.
(07:58):
And his new album is called Texas Tennessee, which we're
gonna talk let him talk you about here in just
a few minutes. And uh, it's interesting how he took
the pandemic and made the best of it. Interesting listen
to this. Texas to Tennessee is the new project. And
as the name implies, you recorded part of it in Texas,
part of it in Nashville, Galveston, in Nashville. How did
(08:21):
you go about choosing which to record where and why?
Most of the vocals were done in Galveston and at
our home and we were all to make a makeshift
studio and it was great. The COVID thing, really we
had some constraints with COVID when we were recording here
in Nashville, and that was you know, all the musicians
had to wear masks. I had to wear a mask,
and then my I isolated, you know, to sing in
(08:43):
the studio the tracking vocals. But it really um you know,
I grew up in Texas, I'm a Texan and we
have a home there, and so it was it was
really easy. It was an easy choice. And plus I
could sing on the days where my voice felt its best.
And that's always great for a singer because is there
even though there's just small degrees of separation, we know,
(09:03):
you know, and in the some of the industry folks
know you know, when a vocal is at it's at
its best, right, you know. In check of the credits,
I saw where you wrote with some of the biggest
writers in the business. You co wrote everything on the
CD here. And I'm sure at a songwriting session these
guys show up with some ideas and what's gonna fit you?
So what does fit Clay Walker? You know? Charlie, that's
(09:26):
really a good observation that you just made right there.
And it's the most important, the most important element of
getting this album to where it is, and that was
Michael Knox had the biggest part in setting up these
co writes. And the way that he would do it
is he would he would call the writers and say, look,
this is not about trying to write a hit song.
This is really about writing a smash. But it's got
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to be about Clay's life. That's important, you know. And
if you know Clay Walker, gosh, he's involved in so
many different things and he has a different outlook on
life than that many people do and it's reflected in
his music. Well, and I've always loved him because and
I mean this totally as a compliment, he's like a
big kid. He loves to laugh, he loves to play
(10:09):
jokes on people and just fun to be around. Well,
he's got five kids at home. Um, you know, he
has two grown children and he also has five that
a twelve and under. I believe a total of seven children.
So you got five at home right now. So yeah,
he's got to be a kid. The acts like one.
So there you go. Now, as we continued talking with
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Clay and this this is the first time we've talked
to play in a long time. So we had a
long conversation. With the pandemic shutdown, of course, changed the
world in a lot of ways, and he was so
anxious to get back out on the road. See, these
entertainers thrive on the crowds, the live music, the reaction,
the quick judgment of their music. So when he was
ready to get back out, um, he didn't know what
(10:53):
to expect. And a lot of guys, you know, I
think they're still trying to figure out if they have
a voice after being off and listen, that can bring
up in security. But how do you get back into
the swing of things. So I've heard guys say they're rusty,
they needed to work. You know what I did in
the time off was right a whole album with great
songwriters here in Nashville. Of course you knew we got
plenty of those. But the other part was I I
(11:16):
took some some voice lessons that just helped me strengthen
my voice, you know, getting ready for when we did
open back up. And you know that paid dividends. Um,
we just did a sold out show at the Woodlands,
Texas and and um, and then we did four in
a row and I had no fatigue whatsoever. And the
band I could tell they were hungry. The crowd was
not rusty. They stood up on the first song and
(11:38):
they never sat down, uh, not even on the ballads.
And so it was thousands of people sold out and
and just screaming at the top of their lungs and
not a great feeling. I mean, to be at it
as long as you have and and that's happening. It
is you know. It also shows that the commitment that uh,
that fans have made to the music, you know, and
(12:00):
that they really feel it and they they've lived it.
And so when when they come out, they're ready. You know,
they're ready. They're like, play me my memories, you know,
basically that's what it is. And and uh they sang
to every song, even the new song need to Bar sometimes.
I mean, they were just into it. And I know
that that things have not opened up all over the country,
but in the places that we've been so far, we've
(12:23):
experienced uh that same kind of uh of attitude. And
just to tell you how how enthusiastic they were, you know,
there's there's a decibel limit of one one dbs in
in Houston, and so we had our p a crank
to one oh one, you know, as loud as we
could legally have it. The audience was at one eleven. Well,
(12:46):
how many years, Charlie, have we been taking our ear
plugs to concerts? I have to a long time. I
mean it started, you know, they started reaching decibels and things.
When the Rolling Stones are touring back in the seventies.
They were the first to blow your brains out. You
went to a concert, right, had you? Honestly you had
to hea your plugs because they likened it to being
behind a jet engine. Oh listen and you can. You
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can feel the bass, guitar and the drums beating in
your chest when you're out there in the audience. It's crazy. Okay, folks,
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Carly Pierce recently had what I would call a heart
stopping moment. She was backstage at the Grand Ole Opry.
She thought she was doing a promo for Dollywood, where
she used to work when she was sixteen years old,
where she honed her skills as a singer and as
a performer. And I hope you guys have all seen this.
It's it's still on the internet. Dolly walks up and
(15:23):
surprises Carly to let her know that she has been
chosen as the newest member of the Grand ol Opry.
And Carly literally hits the floor and Dolly says, girl,
you can't be a star sitting down, get give up,
but let's get going. It was really fun, uh, Carly
Pierce being inducted into the Grand Ole Opry. And even
(15:45):
though she's known about this now for a couple of weeks,
the girls still stunned. It's the most full circle, unbelievable
moment I think I've ever had in my life. The
fact that she took the time to do that for
me and what she means to me. It was the
best moment I think I've had so far in this journey.
(16:06):
I mean, this is truly all I've ever wanted. I
always just wanted to matter in country music, and the
fact that I have a seat at the table is
something that I will never ever take for granted. I
hope you get a chance to really see that video
of Dolly inviting here, because you know, he goes back.
It's kind of full circle because she worked six shows
a day, six days a week at Dollywood when she
(16:28):
was coming up. Can you believe that six seventeen years old?
But hey, listen, that's how you get good like Carly Pierce.
All right. Next up on our podcast today is Parker
McCollum and Laurie and I thought you were very observant
in listening to the music you hear. You know, artists
reveal a lot about their personal lives sometimes in their music,
(16:49):
and then you read about them off stage. Park mccollm
had a big turnaround, didn't he. He certainly did something
that we didn't really know a lot about because he's
a different man in a good way now than he
used to be. The song rest of my life. Folks
of you have not heard this, you need to listen
to it, because this song tells you just about everything
(17:13):
you need to know about Parker McCollum, where he was
when he was starting out as an artist, what happened
to him along the way, and why he changed for
the better, and what's even more startling, how and when
the song came about you were just so honest with
explaining to everyone what your life has been like and
(17:35):
the transformation that you say you have been through from
some of your earlier years with uh, you know, whiskey
and and more, you know, feeling like a rock star
on stage, just you know, living life full on. That's
hard to unwind from. How did you do that? Um?
You know, I really just started to look at um,
(17:58):
how incredibly lucky I was to be one of the
kids that grew up wanting to sing songs and play
guitar for a living. And I was really getting to
do it, And and I kind of started this question
started keeping up in my mind all the time of
how am I gonna wish I'd have done this when
I'm an old man? How am I gonna wish I'd
have handled this? You know, once in a lifetime, one
(18:19):
a million opportunity. Well, and you know, when you write
a song and sing a song like the rest of
my life. Does that make you feel better? Or does it?
Does it make you cringe that you lived that way?
I think when I wrote that song, I fell in
love with it instantly, and I got out of the
shower to write it in about fifteen minutes. And as
soon as I wrote it, I said that it's that
(18:40):
the best song I've ever written. May not be the best,
but it's probably my favorite I've ever written. And uh, man,
I just you know, I wrote that song when I
was dead, sober, sober, at like eleven o'clock in the morning.
So um, that made it even I liked that even better. Well,
why is it your favorite song you've ever written? I
just think him. I love the melody. The melody is
(19:02):
what I was homing in the shower. That's why I
got out, when I started thinking about words and um,
and then when it when in fifteen minutes, when something
falls out of you like it was probably my fault.
It always is somehow, you know, laid down for a moment,
my eyes start closing. I can't help but wonder why
like when I when things like that, because I write
all the time and it's never that good or it's
(19:22):
just not always that good, and so when it is,
I'm just like, man, I can still do this. Now, Charlie,
you are laughing because he wrote the song in the
shower and you just have this vision of naked songwriting. No,
you don careless about it. But I just thought as
fast that you know, it hit him and he was
able to go out and finish the song in fifteen minutes.
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We hear success stories like that. They're rare, trust me,
they're rare, but they do happen. You knock out a
song in ten fifteen minutes, it becomes a smash, you know.
So I guess I'm still very curious about Parker McCallum.
I asked him all these weird questions. But you know,
I noticed that, of course, his EP was called Holly
with Gold. This new album is called gold Chain Cowboy,
(20:04):
And I noticed in conversation when he talks, he uses
the word gold a lot. Oh wow, that moment was
so gold or you know, something that happened to him
was a golden moment. So I wanted to dig into
that word. What does the word gold mean to him?
People are asking us, so we'll ask you, what is
your affinity with gold? You use that word a lot
(20:26):
in conversation, in your lyrics, in the names of your albums.
You wear a big gold chain. What do you love
about gold? Both My granddad's always had a little bit
of gold on. They're very, very hard working men, and uh,
I've seen a lot of success in their lives and
always had a little bit of gold on, and I
loved I think, you know, if you have good manners
and and good values, and you carry yourself the right way,
(20:47):
it's nothing wrong with rocking a little gold chain or
a nice, nice gold watch. Um. I love to flex
a little bit, not too much. You don't want to
be that guy, but um, I wear heavy starts leave
by five oh ones and boots and a gold chain.
You know, I don't know many other people who do that,
so they just kind of represents me well, I think,
I like, I want to work hard and be successful
(21:08):
and be able to buy nice things. But I definitely,
uh would like to carry myself, you know, the right
way as well. So it seems like that chain keeps
you connected to your grandfather's that you loved. Yes, him,
and I just love gold. I mean, I like, I
just like nice things, you know, I like I hope
to have a couple of nice whips one day in
a big old house on a nice ranch in Texas.
(21:28):
And and I want to work hard and earn those things.
And um, you know, I wouldn't mind hopping in a
nice whip to go to dinner after working cows all day.
That sounds pretty good to me too. Okay. I had
to look it up. I was like, he kept talking
about a whip. It's a car. It's a slang term
for a car. Did you know that? Honestly know? I
looked it up to I mean, no es seriously. After
(21:49):
he was he's getting in a whip, I thought, is
that like like a tesla. Well, no, he's got a whip.
He's working the cattle. I don't know what he's doing.
But okay, so he's got his own language. He rise
to the shower. What a guy he is. Well, he's
you know, he's an old soul. He uses to that, Yes,
that earlier terminal. It's great to see the turnaround, you know,
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pretty exciting. I think as far as the space style
Adventures of Billionaires and everybody else, I love, I love
the title that you gave this podcast today. Well go
ahead and say it. Okay, look up in the sky,
it's a bird, it's a plane, it's a billionaire. Yeah,
all right, sorry Superman had to do that. But would
you go in one of those capsules like they, you know,
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Branson And I think I would because you don't really
have to have any training. They said that the most
that you have to do to prepare is to get
measured for your space suit. Okay, well you want to
look good by the way, you know, those new spacesuits
that the guys are actually wearing, the astronauts, they look
like lego man. Don't think, don't think. Could they come
(02:09):
up with something better than that that's just me. But
now I thought would okay, so you would go up
But the thing is, I like the I like the
fact that Wally Funk, who's eighty two years old, she
was one of the women trained never got in space.
She got a chance to go up there. I thought
that was heartwarming. And the eighteen year old one up
lottery or something, well he actually he was a runner up. Money. Well,
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his parents are hugely rich. Okay, so yeah, so they
paid for him to go. Okay, so he got up there.
You know, he's eighteen years old. But it's it's kind
of cool to see the different apparatus is they used
to to reach space. But nonetheless, apparatus is a word
or is it apparat Hi, Charlie, both of them. Maybe
(02:52):
we should google that. Well, we're not gonna miss that
right now. You guys can google it later. But it's interesting.
I don't know that I would pay that much just
for the like a four or five minute ride, like
Basils said, of course, with Branson, you see the rocket launch.
That's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. So yeah, anyway,
it'd be ready for I guess civilian space rides and
(03:13):
sometimes well this is all the talk. Now, I was
out last week when you were talking with Gabby Barrett
and Clay Walker and some of these folks, and uh,
and I noticed that you all had it was still
the topic of conversation for all of you. So we're
talking about footprints on the moon, and Moon has mentioned.
There's so much emphasis on civilian space travel these days.
I don't know if you saw basils and then, Sir
Richard Branson quite a week or so ago, would you
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care to literally put some footprints on the moon? Would
you go to space? Now? I don't think. I don't
think that's for me. I am more I am. I
would love to sing about it for the rest of
my life. But I don't think that I can get
a rocket ship and go that far up in this guy.
I'm so. I'm a superclustrophobic person as well, like I
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get very scared in small spaces, So I don't think
I can do it. So the most daredevil thing you've
ever done is being on an elevator probably, Yeah, and
I've gotten stuck on an elevator too, which was not fun.
But yes, why do you handle that? I mean, if
you understand clustrophobia is but when you get stuck on
something like that, Oh my goodness, what do you do? Yeah?
(04:17):
And it was right before a show too, it was
really Yeah. I was with a few family members on
the elevator as well, and it was scary. I'm not
gonna lie. I was thinking about all the movies and
the stuff where people are like, oh, you run out
of you know, oxygen on the elevator and because you're
stuck in there. But I don't think that actually, I
don't think that actually happens, you run out of oxygen.
I don't know. But anyways, I was praying a lot
(04:40):
and thankfully we we got out of the elevator, so
that was cut. Oh my biggest fear. I've never been
stuck in an elevator. Don't want to be well. And
while Gabby was talking there, you asked Jennifer our producer
over here as social producer, and you said, you've been.
You were trapped an elevator for what forty minutes? It's
the mt she zoned out. She's got her heads that
(05:01):
we're talking about now, she's listening to the crooks. Oh yeah,
that's what's what she's supposed to be doing. Okay, okay,
can we go back, though, I want to go back
with Gabby since I didn't get to talk to her
this time as you did. I the door, the idea
of this song her her new single, Footprints on the Moon.
I just think we need to be reminded that things
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that so often in our own brains seem impossible really
aren't all right. Not to the song Footprints on the Moon.
It's a go get them song of encouragement. That's the
way I look at it. So how is the song
personal for you? And the reason I bring that up
as a co writer, which particular lyrics came directly from
your heart because you were a co writer on this um.
(05:45):
I don't know if I can say a specific line.
I think everybody kind of adds a few words here
and there. But one of the ones that I think
I'm almost positive that I came up with was everybody
says that you can't tell you do so, because that
was always a big problem for me coming up is
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going through school a lot of I had a lot
of trouble in school and trying to pursue this big
music dream that everybody thought was insane and never you're
going to happen, and it's sad. Even the teachers weren't
supportive of that, and so it was really hard. So
I always just say, you know, everybody says that you
can't until you do, and then when you're there, they're like, oh,
(06:28):
I was always you know, rooting for her and saw
that and it was like, well, that wasn't true. And
so that's definitely a line that strikes me. But with
this song, it's a really important one to me because
it kind of completes the trilogy of the first three
singles that I put out, like about myself. You're really
getting to know me through music with I hoping about
heartbreaking loss and then the good ones being about finding
(06:51):
love and and finding hope having a baby, and now
this song is another part of me where I wanted
to be very encouraging and uplifting too. People that have
big dreams there and are in that same spot boy
she confident or one she is well, And you know,
I like people like that because when you see them
having strength within themselves, I think that that sort of spreads.
(07:13):
It's like fairy dust, well, and it spreads to other people. Well,
you gotta watch for the fairy dust, of course, But okay,
now to our buddy Clay Walker. Yeah. The thing fascinating
about Clay we first met up with him what I
think it was, or even before, man, Yeah, probably he
looks the same. That's what's upset. He looks How is
(07:36):
this possible that this man decades later still look he
looks hot, He looks and he's exfoliating, he's moisturizing, he's
doing all that crap that you guys do that men
never do. So that's why it looks so good. But
he just released his twelfth studio album. As a matter
of fact, we've always had a lot of fun to
Clay Away, just kicking back and have a lot of fun.
(07:58):
And his new album is called Texas Tennessee, which we're
gonna talk let him talk you about here in just
a few minutes. And uh, it's interesting how he took
the pandemic and made the best of it. Interesting listen
to this. Texas to Tennessee is the new project. And
as the name implies, you recorded part of it in Texas,
part of it in Nashville, Galveston, in Nashville. How did
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you go about choosing which to record where and why?
Most of the vocals were done in Galveston and at
our home and we were all to make a makeshift
studio and it was great. The COVID thing, really we
had some constraints with COVID when we were recording here
in Nashville, and that was you know, all the musicians
had to wear masks. I had to wear a mask,
and then my I isolated, you know, to sing in
(08:43):
the studio the tracking vocals. But it really um you know,
I grew up in Texas, I'm a Texan and we
have a home there, and so it was it was
really easy. It was an easy choice. And plus I
could sing on the days where my voice felt its best.
And that's always great for a singer because is there
even though there's just small degrees of separation, we know,
(09:03):
you know, and in the some of the industry folks
know you know, when a vocal is at it's at
its best, right, you know. In check of the credits,
I saw where you wrote with some of the biggest
writers in the business. You co wrote everything on the
CD here. And I'm sure at a songwriting session these
guys show up with some ideas and what's gonna fit you?
So what does fit Clay Walker? You know? Charlie, that's
(09:26):
really a good observation that you just made right there.
And it's the most important, the most important element of
getting this album to where it is, and that was
Michael Knox had the biggest part in setting up these
co writes. And the way that he would do it
is he would he would call the writers and say, look,
this is not about trying to write a hit song.
This is really about writing a smash. But it's got
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to be about Clay's life. That's important, you know. And
if you know Clay Walker, gosh, he's involved in so
many different things and he has a different outlook on
life than that many people do and it's reflected in
his music. Well, and I've always loved him because and
I mean this totally as a compliment, he's like a
big kid. He loves to laugh, he loves to play
(10:09):
jokes on people and just fun to be around. Well,
he's got five kids at home. Um, you know, he
has two grown children and he also has five that
a twelve and under. I believe a total of seven children.
So you got five at home right now. So yeah,
he's got to be a kid. The acts like one.
So there you go. Now, as we continued talking with
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Clay and this this is the first time we've talked
to play in a long time. So we had a
long conversation. With the pandemic shutdown, of course, changed the
world in a lot of ways, and he was so
anxious to get back out on the road. See, these
entertainers thrive on the crowds, the live music, the reaction,
the quick judgment of their music. So when he was
ready to get back out, um, he didn't know what
(10:53):
to expect. And a lot of guys, you know, I
think they're still trying to figure out if they have
a voice after being off and listen, that can bring
up in security. But how do you get back into
the swing of things. So I've heard guys say they're rusty,
they needed to work. You know what I did in
the time off was right a whole album with great
songwriters here in Nashville. Of course you knew we got
plenty of those. But the other part was I I
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took some some voice lessons that just helped me strengthen
my voice, you know, getting ready for when we did
open back up. And you know that paid dividends. Um,
we just did a sold out show at the Woodlands,
Texas and and um, and then we did four in
a row and I had no fatigue whatsoever. And the
band I could tell they were hungry. The crowd was
not rusty. They stood up on the first song and
(11:38):
they never sat down, uh, not even on the ballads.
And so it was thousands of people sold out and
and just screaming at the top of their lungs and
not a great feeling. I mean, to be at it
as long as you have and and that's happening. It
is you know. It also shows that the commitment that uh,
that fans have made to the music, you know, and
(12:00):
that they really feel it and they they've lived it.
And so when when they come out, they're ready. You know,
they're ready. They're like, play me my memories, you know,
basically that's what it is. And and uh they sang
to every song, even the new song need to Bar sometimes.
I mean, they were just into it. And I know
that that things have not opened up all over the country,
but in the places that we've been so far, we've
(12:23):
experienced uh that same kind of uh of attitude. And
just to tell you how how enthusiastic they were, you know,
there's there's a decibel limit of one one dbs in
in Houston, and so we had our p a crank
to one oh one, you know, as loud as we
could legally have it. The audience was at one eleven. Well,
(12:46):
how many years, Charlie, have we been taking our ear
plugs to concerts? I have to a long time. I
mean it started, you know, they started reaching decibels and things.
When the Rolling Stones are touring back in the seventies.
They were the first to blow your brains out. You
went to a concert, right, had you? Honestly you had
to hea your plugs because they likened it to being
behind a jet engine. Oh listen and you can. You
(13:07):
can feel the bass, guitar and the drums beating in
your chest when you're out there in the audience. It's crazy. Okay, folks,
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Carly Pierce recently had what I would call a heart
stopping moment. She was backstage at the Grand Ole Opry.
She thought she was doing a promo for Dollywood, where
she used to work when she was sixteen years old,
where she honed her skills as a singer and as
a performer. And I hope you guys have all seen this.
It's it's still on the internet. Dolly walks up and
(15:23):
surprises Carly to let her know that she has been
chosen as the newest member of the Grand ol Opry.
And Carly literally hits the floor and Dolly says, girl,
you can't be a star sitting down, get give up,
but let's get going. It was really fun, uh, Carly
Pierce being inducted into the Grand Ole Opry. And even
(15:45):
though she's known about this now for a couple of weeks,
the girls still stunned. It's the most full circle, unbelievable
moment I think I've ever had in my life. The
fact that she took the time to do that for
me and what she means to me. It was the
best moment I think I've had so far in this journey.
(16:06):
I mean, this is truly all I've ever wanted. I
always just wanted to matter in country music, and the
fact that I have a seat at the table is
something that I will never ever take for granted. I
hope you get a chance to really see that video
of Dolly inviting here, because you know, he goes back.
It's kind of full circle because she worked six shows
a day, six days a week at Dollywood when she
(16:28):
was coming up. Can you believe that six seventeen years old?
But hey, listen, that's how you get good like Carly Pierce.
All right. Next up on our podcast today is Parker
McCollum and Laurie and I thought you were very observant
in listening to the music you hear. You know, artists
reveal a lot about their personal lives sometimes in their music,
(16:49):
and then you read about them off stage. Park mccollm
had a big turnaround, didn't he. He certainly did something
that we didn't really know a lot about because he's
a different man in a good way now than he
used to be. The song rest of my life. Folks
of you have not heard this, you need to listen
to it, because this song tells you just about everything
(17:13):
you need to know about Parker McCollum, where he was
when he was starting out as an artist, what happened
to him along the way, and why he changed for
the better, and what's even more startling, how and when
the song came about you were just so honest with
explaining to everyone what your life has been like and
(17:35):
the transformation that you say you have been through from
some of your earlier years with uh, you know, whiskey
and and more, you know, feeling like a rock star
on stage, just you know, living life full on. That's
hard to unwind from. How did you do that? Um?
You know, I really just started to look at um,
(17:58):
how incredibly lucky I was to be one of the
kids that grew up wanting to sing songs and play
guitar for a living. And I was really getting to
do it, And and I kind of started this question
started keeping up in my mind all the time of
how am I gonna wish I'd have done this when
I'm an old man? How am I gonna wish I'd
have handled this? You know, once in a lifetime, one
(18:19):
a million opportunity. Well, and you know, when you write
a song and sing a song like the rest of
my life. Does that make you feel better? Or does it?
Does it make you cringe that you lived that way?
I think when I wrote that song, I fell in
love with it instantly, and I got out of the
shower to write it in about fifteen minutes. And as
soon as I wrote it, I said that it's that
(18:40):
the best song I've ever written. May not be the best,
but it's probably my favorite I've ever written. And uh, man,
I just you know, I wrote that song when I
was dead, sober, sober, at like eleven o'clock in the morning.
So um, that made it even I liked that even better. Well,
why is it your favorite song you've ever written? I
just think him. I love the melody. The melody is
(19:02):
what I was homing in the shower. That's why I
got out, when I started thinking about words and um,
and then when it when in fifteen minutes, when something
falls out of you like it was probably my fault.
It always is somehow, you know, laid down for a moment,
my eyes start closing. I can't help but wonder why
like when I when things like that, because I write
all the time and it's never that good or it's
(19:22):
just not always that good, and so when it is,
I'm just like, man, I can still do this. Now, Charlie,
you are laughing because he wrote the song in the
shower and you just have this vision of naked songwriting. No,
you don careless about it. But I just thought as
fast that you know, it hit him and he was
able to go out and finish the song in fifteen minutes.
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We hear success stories like that. They're rare, trust me,
they're rare, but they do happen. You knock out a
song in ten fifteen minutes, it becomes a smash, you know.
So I guess I'm still very curious about Parker McCallum.
I asked him all these weird questions. But you know,
I noticed that, of course, his EP was called Holly
with Gold. This new album is called gold Chain Cowboy,
(20:04):
And I noticed in conversation when he talks, he uses
the word gold a lot. Oh wow, that moment was
so gold or you know, something that happened to him
was a golden moment. So I wanted to dig into
that word. What does the word gold mean to him?
People are asking us, so we'll ask you, what is
your affinity with gold? You use that word a lot
(20:26):
in conversation, in your lyrics, in the names of your albums.
You wear a big gold chain. What do you love
about gold? Both My granddad's always had a little bit
of gold on. They're very, very hard working men, and uh,
I've seen a lot of success in their lives and
always had a little bit of gold on, and I
loved I think, you know, if you have good manners
and and good values, and you carry yourself the right way,
(20:47):
it's nothing wrong with rocking a little gold chain or
a nice, nice gold watch. Um. I love to flex
a little bit, not too much. You don't want to
be that guy, but um, I wear heavy starts leave
by five oh ones and boots and a gold chain.
You know, I don't know many other people who do that,
so they just kind of represents me well, I think,
I like, I want to work hard and be successful
(21:08):
and be able to buy nice things. But I definitely,
uh would like to carry myself, you know, the right
way as well. So it seems like that chain keeps
you connected to your grandfather's that you loved. Yes, him,
and I just love gold. I mean, I like, I
just like nice things, you know, I like I hope
to have a couple of nice whips one day in
a big old house on a nice ranch in Texas.
(21:28):
And and I want to work hard and earn those things.
And um, you know, I wouldn't mind hopping in a
nice whip to go to dinner after working cows all day.
That sounds pretty good to me too. Okay. I had
to look it up. I was like, he kept talking
about a whip. It's a car. It's a slang term
for a car. Did you know that? Honestly know? I
looked it up to I mean, no es seriously. After
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he was he's getting in a whip, I thought, is
that like like a tesla. Well, no, he's got a whip.
He's working the cattle. I don't know what he's doing.
But okay, so he's got his own language. He rise
to the shower. What a guy he is. Well, he's
you know, he's an old soul. He uses to that, Yes,
that earlier terminal. It's great to see the turnaround, you know,
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it really is. And we've had a lot of fun
times with all these major stars. I hope you joined
our podcast. We we get to kick out of sharing
some of these conversations. We try to bring you the highlights,
and of course we we love to feature these hartists
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