September 14, 2021 • 38 mins
Ever been in a dark place and hanging on to the promise of a new day - a brighter day? Most of us have been there, some of us are there now. Billy Ray Cyrus, and newcomer, FIREROSE, can speak to the experience and are here to offer a ray of hope in their collaborative single, "New Day." I'd never met either of our guests before, and my heart was deeply touched by each of their stories. This episode has some very special moments. If you've ever had a dog claim you as "their person," if you're a fan of George Jones or Johnny Cash, and if you believe that each new day brings grace and opportunity our way, you'll want to listen in! (PLUS, our guests generously perform "New Day" in the Zoom studio, just for us!) ~ Delilah
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You know, over the years, I've taken thousands upon thousands
upon thousands of phone calls and listen to so many
of my listeners. Stories. They've been. Stories of celebration, stories
of joy, stories of surprise babies, bonfires, job promotions, stories
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of graduations or adoptions, of new home purchases, stories of
four legged fur babies and gardens and glory and kitchen conquest.
Stories of love, stories of lost, stories of broken hearts.
Lots and lots and lots of broken hearts. Achy Breaky Hearts.
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But nobody, no body, I mean nobody knows about Achy
Breaky Hearts better than one of today's guests on Love
some One. Throughout his three decade career, Billy Ray Cyrus,
King of the Akey Breaky Heart, has achieved global success
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as a singer, a songwriter, and actor, of producer of philanthropist.
He's established himself as a household name across multiple areas
of the entertainment landscape, including music, television, theater, and more,
winning Grammys and multiple awards from Billboard Magazine, Hip Hop,
the Country Music Association, American Music, Canadian Music, and more.
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While Achy Breaky Heart went multi platinum, Billy Ray followed
up with back to back hits like it could Have
been Me, She's Not Crying Anymore and the anthem Some
Gave All. He's never stopped creating new music, bending genres
and stealing hearts in the process. Last year he had
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the huge worldwide bash Old Town Road, and most recently
with new on the scene Fire Rose and their single
New Day. It's sort of a dreamy, ethereal song of hope,
a song of perseverance, perfect for the times we're living in.
The duo wrote and recorded it together, apart they were
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not actually in the same room together, not even in
the same state together when it was released this past summer.
Now Fire Rose as a young woman born and raised
in Australia. She moved from Sydney to Los Angeles when
she was nineteen. Since then, she has performed regularly, gaining
a loyal following of passionate fans, as well as respect
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and recognition within the music industry. Fire Rose is a storyteller,
and she infuses her soulful vocals with unforgettable melodies and
fiercely personal lyrics. We're going to catch up without legendary
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Over one million people have taken charge of their mental
health with Better Help. Billy Ray fire Rose, Welcome aboard.
I am so glad that you are here with us.
You amazing human being. Honestly, you are great, great, great humanitarian.
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You have been such a light in this world. And
it's an auto. If you heard me screeching at my
kids five minutes ago, you wouldn't be saying those nice things.
Billy Ray, Oh my gosh. This is the summer that never,
and it just goes on and on. My friend, I have,
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I'm so blessed. I have, of um, a lot of kids,
and a lot of those kids are older than you.
Fire Rose, and I have a lot of kids. So
between my husband and I we have twenty children and
twenty three grandchildren. No, and with you know, the shutdowns
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and all the craziness going on in the world and
people working from home and people transitioning. Um, it became
Grandma Camp. This summer. I went to Grandma I love
Grandma Camp. Wow, and it was full. It's it's the
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summer that never. And you know what I did a
few months ago, I went and bought myself a twenty
eight year old motor home. We have a big, big
land yacht motor home. It's like twenty old and I
call it my husband's man cave because that's where he
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retreats to. When the grandkids are driving him nuts, he
just goes into the motor home. Um, but I can't
drive the thing. I mean, it's it's it's long. Um,
I don't know how to drive the thing. So I
found this little classy It's basically a truck with a
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little motor home built on the back of it. And
it says it sleeps six. But I've managed to get
eight grandkids in the thing. And so we we just
we just, you know, throw a watermelon in in the
motor home. It's stocked with really nutritious, nutritious lee Dnse
stuff like pop ramen and crackers, animal crackers, and we
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go and after I finished this interview with you all today,
that's what I'm doing. Yeah, you can come, fires please come. Yeah. Right,
So let's talk about how did Billy ray Cyrus? How
did you meet Fire Rosen? How did New Day come about? Well,
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I'll start with how did I meet this young lady?
And um, it was ten years ago on the set
A Hand of Montana, and I had this German shepherd
named Text and he was with me on every episode,
every movie, everything Hannah Montana. He was with me from
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the beginning, So was he your own personal dog or
was he a part of like the show and then
you hung out with him while you were there, and
then not I was his own personal human. I was
his human. I actually got him for therapy for me,
but quite frankly, I he kind of needed me and
I needed him, and we were really just partners. And
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he went with me everywhere, whether I was tour and
playing music or doing show, and he just lay in
my dressing room and he was kind of he was
a special little guy, and we had a ritual like
usually about three or four o'clock in the evening when
they take a break. Um, there was one tree on
the whole lot. It's the old lot where they you know,
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where they film My Love Lucy Gallant. Is it called
Gallon Studios by Rose the name of that st Yeah, yeah,
where kt l A is now and they used to
film Lucy there, and um, so in the front was
pretty nostalgic sunset boulevard kind of it really felt like Hollywood.
But there was one tree, like a pine tree, one tree.
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The rest were palm trees, but this pine tree had
a coolness to it and there was grass underneath it.
So tex and I would go out there and we'd
pretend we were in Tennessee for a moment, and I'd
sit and watch people and look at things, and he'd
take care business. And then we just sat there and
we were there. It was like the last season of
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Hannah Montana and um Fire Rose came out. I guess
up an audition. Maybe you pick it up from there.
She came out and had done an audition for a
different show, and she just had a glow about like
you know when you see a person that got a
light coming off, like a positivity of She just represented
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a light like she had a It's almost like the
sun coming out of some positive like some purpose that
she had it. Sometimes they say, well, don't you know
that person had it and no one can ever define
what it is, but she had it, and she came out.
I thought that girl has to be a star. And
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oddly enough, she came out of there and came over
and asked if she could pet text. And that's you
take it from there. But that's kind of how we
ended up here. But first, like the people I was
coming out of the audition from did not I feel
that I had So Billy was smart enough to recognize
that you had it, but they weren't. You didn't get
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the part. Oh no, I was a cranive rejection. Thomas
Attison said the most important ingredient for success is failure.
Every time you fail, you eliminate one way that won't work,
therefore being one way closer to the one way that well.
I like, honestly, I just got so used to being
rejected that when any type of anything sembling success started,
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I was just in complete disbelief because I was like, no,
this isn't that how it works. I mean, I didn't
stop doing my thing. I didn't stopped writing music because
I couldn't physically not it's just my soul. But I
stopped having any idea that there was kind of a
you know, a day like today or the last few
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months of anything anything close to that. I mean, we um,
we get really used to sort of especially after years
and us of the same thing, and so Cirus amazingly
kind of talks about how the sister and I was.
But I guess I still did my art, but I
never I guess I gave up some idea that it
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was ever going to amount to anything. Where's tex By
the way, has God called text across the bridge, or
as texts in the other room. He went to the
other side and God bless me, and uh he came
back to another Gruman shepherd and we lived the next
ten years with a dog named Mate. And unfortunately Mate
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passed away. You know, for every reaction, there's an opposite,
n equal reaction. And for as great as twenty nineteen was,
and Old Town Road being the number one song and
just you know, I mean, it was just unbelievable. Of
every reason I bought a guitar and started the band
was to move people through the music. Unfortunately, Mate got
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sick and he chose that moment too. He left me.
It was in the middle of the height of everything.
I look back and think that he chose that moment
because he knew I was so busy that I wouldn't
just hang my head and sat somewhere in a corner
and grieve. And I became quite an actor. During the
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height of Otown Road, I take the stage and have
everybody dancing and rocking out while in your heart you
just you just went through a massive loss. Yeah, and
I come back to that bus. He always stayed with
me on the bus. He had his own bump beside
me and I come back to the bus and he
wasn't there, and uh so it was it was again
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like for everything good, there's something bad, and for everything
peak of a mountain, there's a valley somewhere and I
just had to deal with it. And here I am
low mold. Unless you've been through it, you can't describe
that loss. It's it's you know, and people are like,
come on, get over it. It's a dog. I'm like
you clear Lee, I've never belonged to a dog, because
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when when you are a dog's person and you belong
to them and they're your heart. H So yeah, I
get it. So now I got a little fella out
in my truck right now as we speak. I'm his
person now. His name is Tommy Jack. And in the
midst of my broken heart and all this, I kept saying, Okay,
text mate, you gotta come back to me, You gotta
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come back. And I just came in from a show
and the news came on and they had one little
dog that had three days before he was going to expire.
He was on the news and I'm like, oh, my
goodne three days what who? Like, who does that who
says that who? And I'm he was rescued from abandoned
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shack in Louisiana. They had had a flood, and so
is he a German shepherd found him in an attic.
He's about ten different braids. He's he's a but he's
such a special Guy's name is Tommy Jack and he's
just a little special. He's actually a genius, but somewhat
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like myself. We both have issues and we have kind
of found some common denominator and taking care of each
other and dealing with our own issues. And I take
him with me everywhere now too. And you thought you
were going to go rescue this dog who had you know,
three days left, and and looking at your face even
when you say his name, that dog has rescued you.
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I think, I think so. I think you're right, You're
exactly right. And now you've got a new song. It's
a new day. Are you guys going to perform it
for me here? You understand this is now only the
fifth time we've ever played this song together. Under Now,
when you guys recorded it, you recorded it separately, right, Yeah,
she was in California, I was in Tennessee. Zoom Pro
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tools every I'm a their primitive. I used this thing
called a br which was probably invented, like I'm sure
Carl Perkins and Chuck Barry both had one like this.
This was a pretty primitive piece of gear that I've
had for a long time and kind of like my
motor hold school I kind of would maybe it might
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have been he's really under selling it. It was the
foundation of nee day and how it got produced and
and creative because he'd send me a little clips and
I put it in my reg in l A and
we paced together the soul of the song through this.
I would do my primitive Fred flint Stone recordings and
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do my thing and kind of and then she would
take it. She's actually really broke, you know, as a musician,
as a producer, as a songwriter. She wrote the most
of this song and had the song finished. I just
I just loved the song and was a fan. I've
been a believer for a long time and and I
respected the fact that she persisted she wouldn't give up
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on her dream. And here it was like ten years
later and she was still believing and still doing it
for the love of the music, not you know, not
for any other reason than she's just a natural born talent,
and she produced the record. She would take my little
scratches of stuff and take them to the studio and
they come back sounding like all crisp and shiny and
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like they've been to some kind of reborn factory, and
like she's really she's she's really a talent. You were
handing me like diamonds that just needed a tiny bit
of dusting, and then they were diamonds and I just
slid them into the track and I was like, this
is amazing, Like keep on coming, keeping can you do
this bit? Like can you add a little bit of
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electric guitar? And then you know, and yeah, it was.
It was from the other side of the country, but
it worked, and it was it really was like a
message of the song that we were we were kind
of praying for this new day we all are right
now and we all are the mid Yeah, we thought
it was. It was the early spring and summer and
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we're like writing the song and it's new days just
around the corner. So we all need the song. We
all need a new day, and let's let's share it
with the world. Okay, it's a new day, it's a
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new day. It's a new day, in between, in in between,
going so in July. But what it's well green, oh
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along to take it. It's see when I saw your face,
the lorda different cha. It took me too, just just
stop and it's been killing them pas moving again. I'm breathing,
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knock again, and it's you every day and it's any day.
It's any day, it's any day. This is way become
under son so typely, oh so low. For long it
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was always it's not a question, little lesson and apprehension.
When I saw your face, the hold on differnt change,
she took me to my hot She inspired my fat
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and it's been killing that move no breathing, no again.
It's a neat day, and it's a neat day. It's
a new day. It's a new day. Where I saw
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your face, hold on diffront change took me to my heart.
She didn't spied my fing and it's been calling. I'm
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reading and it's a day. It's a day's day. It's
a day a surrender. I remember all all that you
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have given for this love I've taken. In between getting
in between, going by, beautiful, beautiful, thank you. I think
everybody who listens probably has a different emotional connection or
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emotional takeaway. When when you wrote it, when you sing it,
what what comes to your heart? That's such a good question.
She wrote the most of it. So the truth is,
when I originally wrote the demo, which I wrote on
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my phone, UM, about five years ago, it came to
me in a moment of the deepest darkness that I've
ever been. I was in a really bad place in
my in my life and struggling actually to survive. I
was dealing with some heavy issues and it was like
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a prayer of light that kind of came to me, um,
and somehow the melody in those words and uh the way,
I don't know where music comes from, but if i'm
if I'm fortunate enough to grab it when it comes
in the air and through my brain and get it
into something that I can then UM have with me.
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And I grabbed it, and I kept listening to it
over and over again, and I guess just brought me
some semblance of hope that there was a new day
on the horizon, and thank god there was for me,
and I'm phenomenally grateful for that. But it was looking
pretty bleak for a few years, so I was in
such a different place. But the world, um, we all
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collectively were in a kind of this dark place together
where we couldn't reach out and touch her loved ones
or even you know, be around people, which is just
selling out. I don't think any of us could have fathomed.
And as soon as it happened, it was like, oh, well,
if I had needed a new day, I can only
imagine the world needs a new day. And that's sort
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of what I feel when I'm thinking it. We definitely
need a new day. So, Billy, where where where was
your heart your head when you listened? And what did
it speak to you? And what do you want? I mean,
I know everybody wants whoever is listening to a song,
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at least most artists, to take from what they need.
You know, take what you need and and let that
resonate in you. But was there something in particular that
you felt or connected to, like like for me, it's
my baby's faces and my grand babies faces, and and
that that the line about when I saw your face. Yeah,
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I feel like I should make up some really deep story,
but I think I'm just gonna tell you the um
we had, Uh, we lost contact for years and she
went on her journey of life. I went on mine,
and but one thing stayed consistent was I never changed
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to my email address. My email was fat faced. My
face is the first thing it usually gets bad on me.
And I named my first email I ever had fat faced,
and never changed and long behold, I I get this email,
like towards the end of twenty nineteen, No one's then.
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I'm just I'm celebrating. It's been a great year. And
everybody that old country road, the old tam road, Yeah, boy,
and yeah. And looking forward, I was nominated for some
Grammys and looking forward to January was the Grammys in
l A. And that's the thing. And she sent me
a song, a different song, and I thought, wow, man,
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she still had it. She's. She persisted, she didn't give up,
and actually, like listen her recordings, she evolved. She's. You know,
success is the progressive realization of worthy ideas or goals,
not necessarily the attainment of them. And I said, man, she's.
And so I wrote it back and I said, I
love this song. She made a little video, a little
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cartoon are all running, And I said, that kind of
reminds me of the girl that I'm at. It's running
girl and this little I'm looking at it. I said, hey,
you know what I was this is really good. Um,
I said, have you ever thought I sometimes I just
get feelings about things. I don't have a whole lot
of talent. I just go on those would no, no, no,
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I just go on emotions and feelings. I get feelings
about things. And I heard this voice inside telling myself
to tell her, said have you ever heard of a
song called Delta Don? And she wrote back and said,
I'm looking it up right and now, so she checks
out the song. She goes, I love this song. I
love it. What would you do to it? I said, well,
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I just make it you, you know, introduce it to
a whole new generation. And and and that's the one thing.
I added A little place for a guitar solo. It
never really had a solo. And I said, just get
one of your rock and roll friends out there to
blister an eighties rock guitar solo in the middle of
this and theymic storyline country song of Delta Don. Well,
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not only did she say I'm gonna do it, she
did it, and she executed it to perfection. And like
three weeks later, she sent me this track that just
totally just kick my ass, and I was like, holy crap.
And it's impressive. A lot of people say they're going
to do something and they never do it, but it's
impressive when somebody says, hey, that's a good idea, I'm
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gonna do it, and then they do it and I go, wow,
she killed it. So I'm coming out to the Grammys
in l A on January. I'm in Tennessee at the time. Okay,
I'm coming out. I'll come sing Delta don because before
she cut it, she said, if you'll cut it, if
you'll sing out it, I'm gonna go cut it. And
she killed it. So I'm going to l A. I'm
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gonna be there. I'll come in and sing. And I
loved what she did. And I get out there long behold,
Grammy's happened. Blah blah blah. Here it comes to pandemic.
I leave the Grammys and pretty much they shut the
lights off and locked the door and everything was shut down.
I did one more show. I did one show with
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Neil Diamond in Las Vegas and the next day I
barely met I flew out and that day they closed
everything and that was the last show I did. And
then so I didn't want to think I was just
flaking out, and I didn't. So I wrote it and said, I,
you know, obviously I didn't make it, and the pandemic
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set in and it's locked down, and her being the
never give up or that she is, goes up well,
and I guess we'll just have to do it a
different way. And through um, we've all learned, you know,
that necessity is the mother of skill, or we've actually
learned repetition is the mother of skill. But through the pandemic,
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I kind of rewrote that a little bit, at least
for me, as to necessity as the mother of skill,
and when you need to do something, then you will
go through the repetition of learning in it. And I
kind of had to learn a whole new way of
stepping up my game of pro tools and everything that
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I've learned. I'm old school, you know, I'm like, wait,
I mean, we can make a record from across the
country and do it like this, and she kind of
taught me this way, and I'm always you know, we
started doing it. Song starts bobbing, and a year and
a half later, here we are and the song is out,
and it's just kind of crazy again. I think she's
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a remarkable example of persistence. So now I'm dying to
hear your version of Delta. Don Okay, she's want and
a dad is still because of baby Baby. All the
folks around Browns will say she's crazy, crazy because she
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walks down town like this in case in looking for
serious dark and you go with us deal, don't what's
that flower you got on Men in the Dead? I
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love that? Al right, guys are awesome. That's crazy, No,
thank you. I just did this um uh animation that
Harry Connick Jr. Wrote and he wrote me in as
the possum, and I played the possum. I am a
possum in his if the show gets picked up, and
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so I'm Harry Knick Junior, but no one knows and
probably never will. It was fun because George Jones was
one of my best friends. You know, George Johns, he
stopped love and heard he became one of my best friends.
And he actually introduced me to Johnny Cash. He drove
me there and meet Johnny Cash. Uh. George Johns struve
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me to meet Johnny Cash, and so I told Harry
Connick Jr. That I wanted this role no matter what
it said, no matter what it did, because this was
my tribute to the possum. And so there you go.
And he killed it and he rest in peace. George
and Johnny Man, great man. God, I loved him so much.
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You just you just mentioned two of the biggest names
of my childhood. My dad was everybody in my world
is musical except for me. Um. My dad was in
a country western band. They started a country Western band
called Country Velvet, and so they would play at weddings,
and they would you know, play at the old folks home,
and they would always play at the Elks or the Eagles.
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Every weekend they'd get a gig at the Elks of
the Eagles, and you know it was it was George Jones,
it was Johnny Cash, it was buck O's and the Buckaroos.
You know, that was that was what I grew up
listening to every night. You know when when they were
jamming in the living room and we lived in this
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tiny little our house was feet you can't not hear
them jam all night long. And and uh, that's that's
my heart. That's where I go home to that's the music.
I go home to. Yeah, good stuff there, and you
got to meet them. I just want to kiss your
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face for that reason. That's possibility. Uh, that's fantastic. It
has been great spending time with Billy Ray, Cyrus and
the beautiful fire Rose. Billy Ray has been keeping us
entertained for decades, and I've no doubt he'll continue to
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do so for years to come. I'm looking forward to
more from fire Rose as well. She's a talented lady
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leave you with this because you said you like Johnny Cash. Um.
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The reason George Jones drove me to meet Johnny Cash
with Jones was in my house and he saw a
letter hanging on the wall that Johnny Cash had written
me in. And you probably don't know this about me,
but I lived in my car and uh, I've had
ten years of failure of being a singer, songwriter, entertainer.
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I was supposed to be a baseball player. I was
going to be a catcher for the Cincinnati Reds. And
I heard this voice telling me about a guitar and
start a band and I'd find my purpose in life.
And I kind of went crazy and listened to the voice.
And after ten years of failure, I was about to
give up, and but finally someone said, yes, I've written
a song about a Vietnam Better and called some Gay Ball.
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And after ten years of being told no, I played
that song for a man and he said yes, and
it was with Mercury Records, and we made the album
Some Gave Hall, which included ak Breaky Heart written by
Vietnam Better and Lo and Behold. So a year later,
I wasn't living in my car anymore. It's so. In June,
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Johnny Cash wrote me a handwritten letter and in the
letter he said, it's good to be reminded where all
things that are good come from, Almighty God. And when
Jones read this letter, he said, have you ever met
Johnny Cash? And I said no, And he goes, well,
he's down in Franklin tonight. You want to go meet him.
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I said I'd love to, and he put me in
his car and drove me to meet Johnny Cash so
that I could thank him for rutting me later. And
that's kinda so I do, and to this day, you
know I do. I do good. Thanks for all thanks good,
and all good and perfect things come from the Father. Yeah, oh,
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that is a sweet story. Thank you for sharing that.
Thank you guys for Sharon today. Thank you for having us.
It's an honor to meet you, I hope, but see
you in persons, man, I hope. So you and your
husband taken me for a ride in your Is it
a Winni bagel? That's my husband's motor home. Um, mine
is not quite as fancy, just between us, I paid
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all twelve tho dollars for it. But I can Mama
can drive it. I'm not. Yeah, I don't. I've never
been fancy schmancy. Um. You know, I like. I like
thrift stores, and I like things that have been loved on. Uh.
(36:01):
And and it's perfect because I don't have to say,
don't get that dirty, don't come in there with sand
on your feet, you know, because that's the whole purpose
of it is is it's it's the little it's the
camper for the grandkids. And I still have four kids
at home. So my my oldest is in her forties,
my youngest is five. So I'll be I'll be a thousand.
(36:24):
I'll be a thousand when I'm done um raising kids.
But you know it's so Yeah, you can come and
you can hop in my motor home or I have
a gator you can ride on here at the farm. Um,
I'm a gator ride in the sound of a gun.
I'll tell you that right now. I got I got
four wheels, I got quads. We could go up on
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the mountain and you can sing to me. I'll come
from Come on. Billy Ray Cyrus something of a chameleon
after thirty years in the limelight. He's still handsome, talented,
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While Achy Breaky Heart went multi platinum, Billy Ray followed
up with back to back hits like it could Have
been Me, She's Not Crying Anymore and the anthem Some
Gave All. He's never stopped creating new music, bending genres
and stealing hearts in the process. Last year he had
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the huge worldwide bash Old Town Road, and most recently
with new on the scene Fire Rose and their single
New Day. It's sort of a dreamy, ethereal song of hope,
a song of perseverance, perfect for the times we're living in.
The duo wrote and recorded it together, apart they were
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not actually in the same room together, not even in
the same state together when it was released this past summer.
Now Fire Rose as a young woman born and raised
in Australia. She moved from Sydney to Los Angeles when
she was nineteen. Since then, she has performed regularly, gaining
a loyal following of passionate fans, as well as respect
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and recognition within the music industry. Fire Rose is a storyteller,
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Over one million people have taken charge of their mental
health with Better Help. Billy Ray fire Rose, Welcome aboard.
I am so glad that you are here with us.
You amazing human being. Honestly, you are great, great, great humanitarian.
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You have been such a light in this world. And
it's an auto. If you heard me screeching at my
kids five minutes ago, you wouldn't be saying those nice things.
Billy Ray, Oh my gosh. This is the summer that never,
and it just goes on and on. My friend, I have,
(04:58):
I'm so blessed. I have, of um, a lot of kids,
and a lot of those kids are older than you.
Fire Rose, and I have a lot of kids. So
between my husband and I we have twenty children and
twenty three grandchildren. No, and with you know, the shutdowns
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and all the craziness going on in the world and
people working from home and people transitioning. Um, it became
Grandma Camp. This summer. I went to Grandma I love
Grandma Camp. Wow, and it was full. It's it's the
(05:41):
summer that never. And you know what I did a
few months ago, I went and bought myself a twenty
eight year old motor home. We have a big, big
land yacht motor home. It's like twenty old and I
call it my husband's man cave because that's where he
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retreats to. When the grandkids are driving him nuts, he
just goes into the motor home. Um, but I can't
drive the thing. I mean, it's it's it's long. Um,
I don't know how to drive the thing. So I
found this little classy It's basically a truck with a
(06:26):
little motor home built on the back of it. And
it says it sleeps six. But I've managed to get
eight grandkids in the thing. And so we we just
we just, you know, throw a watermelon in in the
motor home. It's stocked with really nutritious, nutritious lee Dnse
stuff like pop ramen and crackers, animal crackers, and we
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go and after I finished this interview with you all today,
that's what I'm doing. Yeah, you can come, fires please come. Yeah. Right,
So let's talk about how did Billy ray Cyrus? How
did you meet Fire Rosen? How did New Day come about? Well,
(07:12):
I'll start with how did I meet this young lady?
And um, it was ten years ago on the set
A Hand of Montana, and I had this German shepherd
named Text and he was with me on every episode,
every movie, everything Hannah Montana. He was with me from
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the beginning, So was he your own personal dog or
was he a part of like the show and then
you hung out with him while you were there, and
then not I was his own personal human. I was
his human. I actually got him for therapy for me,
but quite frankly, I he kind of needed me and
I needed him, and we were really just partners. And
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he went with me everywhere, whether I was tour and
playing music or doing show, and he just lay in
my dressing room and he was kind of he was
a special little guy, and we had a ritual like
usually about three or four o'clock in the evening when
they take a break. Um, there was one tree on
the whole lot. It's the old lot where they you know,
(08:16):
where they film My Love Lucy Gallant. Is it called
Gallon Studios by Rose the name of that st Yeah, yeah,
where kt l A is now and they used to
film Lucy there, and um, so in the front was
pretty nostalgic sunset boulevard kind of it really felt like Hollywood.
But there was one tree, like a pine tree, one tree.
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The rest were palm trees, but this pine tree had
a coolness to it and there was grass underneath it.
So tex and I would go out there and we'd
pretend we were in Tennessee for a moment, and I'd
sit and watch people and look at things, and he'd
take care business. And then we just sat there and
we were there. It was like the last season of
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Hannah Montana and um Fire Rose came out. I guess
up an audition. Maybe you pick it up from there.
She came out and had done an audition for a
different show, and she just had a glow about like
you know when you see a person that got a
light coming off, like a positivity of She just represented
(09:22):
a light like she had a It's almost like the
sun coming out of some positive like some purpose that
she had it. Sometimes they say, well, don't you know
that person had it and no one can ever define
what it is, but she had it, and she came out.
I thought that girl has to be a star. And
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oddly enough, she came out of there and came over
and asked if she could pet text. And that's you
take it from there. But that's kind of how we
ended up here. But first, like the people I was
coming out of the audition from did not I feel
that I had So Billy was smart enough to recognize
that you had it, but they weren't. You didn't get
(10:10):
the part. Oh no, I was a cranive rejection. Thomas
Attison said the most important ingredient for success is failure.
Every time you fail, you eliminate one way that won't work,
therefore being one way closer to the one way that well.
I like, honestly, I just got so used to being
rejected that when any type of anything sembling success started,
(10:32):
I was just in complete disbelief because I was like, no,
this isn't that how it works. I mean, I didn't
stop doing my thing. I didn't stopped writing music because
I couldn't physically not it's just my soul. But I
stopped having any idea that there was kind of a
you know, a day like today or the last few
(10:53):
months of anything anything close to that. I mean, we um,
we get really used to sort of especially after years
and us of the same thing, and so Cirus amazingly
kind of talks about how the sister and I was.
But I guess I still did my art, but I
never I guess I gave up some idea that it
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was ever going to amount to anything. Where's tex By
the way, has God called text across the bridge, or
as texts in the other room. He went to the
other side and God bless me, and uh he came
back to another Gruman shepherd and we lived the next
ten years with a dog named Mate. And unfortunately Mate
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passed away. You know, for every reaction, there's an opposite,
n equal reaction. And for as great as twenty nineteen was,
and Old Town Road being the number one song and
just you know, I mean, it was just unbelievable. Of
every reason I bought a guitar and started the band
was to move people through the music. Unfortunately, Mate got
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sick and he chose that moment too. He left me.
It was in the middle of the height of everything.
I look back and think that he chose that moment
because he knew I was so busy that I wouldn't
just hang my head and sat somewhere in a corner
and grieve. And I became quite an actor. During the
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height of Otown Road, I take the stage and have
everybody dancing and rocking out while in your heart you
just you just went through a massive loss. Yeah, and
I come back to that bus. He always stayed with
me on the bus. He had his own bump beside
me and I come back to the bus and he
wasn't there, and uh so it was it was again
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like for everything good, there's something bad, and for everything
peak of a mountain, there's a valley somewhere and I
just had to deal with it. And here I am
low mold. Unless you've been through it, you can't describe
that loss. It's it's you know, and people are like,
come on, get over it. It's a dog. I'm like
you clear Lee, I've never belonged to a dog, because
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when when you are a dog's person and you belong
to them and they're your heart. H So yeah, I
get it. So now I got a little fella out
in my truck right now as we speak. I'm his
person now. His name is Tommy Jack. And in the
midst of my broken heart and all this, I kept saying, Okay,
text mate, you gotta come back to me, You gotta
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come back. And I just came in from a show
and the news came on and they had one little
dog that had three days before he was going to expire.
He was on the news and I'm like, oh, my
goodne three days what who? Like, who does that who
says that who? And I'm he was rescued from abandoned
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shack in Louisiana. They had had a flood, and so
is he a German shepherd found him in an attic.
He's about ten different braids. He's he's a but he's
such a special Guy's name is Tommy Jack and he's
just a little special. He's actually a genius, but somewhat
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like myself. We both have issues and we have kind
of found some common denominator and taking care of each
other and dealing with our own issues. And I take
him with me everywhere now too. And you thought you
were going to go rescue this dog who had you know,
three days left, and and looking at your face even
when you say his name, that dog has rescued you.
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I think, I think so. I think you're right, You're
exactly right. And now you've got a new song. It's
a new day. Are you guys going to perform it
for me here? You understand this is now only the
fifth time we've ever played this song together. Under Now,
when you guys recorded it, you recorded it separately, right, Yeah,
she was in California, I was in Tennessee. Zoom Pro
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tools every I'm a their primitive. I used this thing
called a br which was probably invented, like I'm sure
Carl Perkins and Chuck Barry both had one like this.
This was a pretty primitive piece of gear that I've
had for a long time and kind of like my
motor hold school I kind of would maybe it might
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have been he's really under selling it. It was the
foundation of nee day and how it got produced and
and creative because he'd send me a little clips and
I put it in my reg in l A and
we paced together the soul of the song through this.
I would do my primitive Fred flint Stone recordings and
(15:41):
do my thing and kind of and then she would
take it. She's actually really broke, you know, as a musician,
as a producer, as a songwriter. She wrote the most
of this song and had the song finished. I just
I just loved the song and was a fan. I've
been a believer for a long time and and I
respected the fact that she persisted she wouldn't give up
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on her dream. And here it was like ten years
later and she was still believing and still doing it
for the love of the music, not you know, not
for any other reason than she's just a natural born talent,
and she produced the record. She would take my little
scratches of stuff and take them to the studio and
they come back sounding like all crisp and shiny and
(16:25):
like they've been to some kind of reborn factory, and
like she's really she's she's really a talent. You were
handing me like diamonds that just needed a tiny bit
of dusting, and then they were diamonds and I just
slid them into the track and I was like, this
is amazing, Like keep on coming, keeping can you do
this bit? Like can you add a little bit of
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electric guitar? And then you know, and yeah, it was.
It was from the other side of the country, but
it worked, and it was it really was like a
message of the song that we were we were kind
of praying for this new day we all are right
now and we all are the mid Yeah, we thought
it was. It was the early spring and summer and
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we're like writing the song and it's new days just
around the corner. So we all need the song. We
all need a new day, and let's let's share it
with the world. Okay, it's a new day, it's a
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new day. It's a new day, in between, in in between,
going so in July. But what it's well green, oh
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along to take it. It's see when I saw your face,
the lorda different cha. It took me too, just just
stop and it's been killing them pas moving again. I'm breathing,
(18:26):
knock again, and it's you every day and it's any day.
It's any day, it's any day. This is way become
under son so typely, oh so low. For long it
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was always it's not a question, little lesson and apprehension.
When I saw your face, the hold on differnt change,
she took me to my hot She inspired my fat
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and it's been killing that move no breathing, no again.
It's a neat day, and it's a neat day. It's
a new day. It's a new day. Where I saw
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your face, hold on diffront change took me to my heart.
She didn't spied my fing and it's been calling. I'm
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reading and it's a day. It's a day's day. It's
a day a surrender. I remember all all that you
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have given for this love I've taken. In between getting
in between, going by, beautiful, beautiful, thank you. I think
everybody who listens probably has a different emotional connection or
(20:53):
emotional takeaway. When when you wrote it, when you sing it,
what what comes to your heart? That's such a good question.
She wrote the most of it. So the truth is,
when I originally wrote the demo, which I wrote on
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my phone, UM, about five years ago, it came to
me in a moment of the deepest darkness that I've
ever been. I was in a really bad place in
my in my life and struggling actually to survive. I
was dealing with some heavy issues and it was like
(21:37):
a prayer of light that kind of came to me, um,
and somehow the melody in those words and uh the way,
I don't know where music comes from, but if i'm
if I'm fortunate enough to grab it when it comes
in the air and through my brain and get it
into something that I can then UM have with me.
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And I grabbed it, and I kept listening to it
over and over again, and I guess just brought me
some semblance of hope that there was a new day
on the horizon, and thank god there was for me,
and I'm phenomenally grateful for that. But it was looking
pretty bleak for a few years, so I was in
such a different place. But the world, um, we all
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collectively were in a kind of this dark place together
where we couldn't reach out and touch her loved ones
or even you know, be around people, which is just
selling out. I don't think any of us could have fathomed.
And as soon as it happened, it was like, oh, well,
if I had needed a new day, I can only
imagine the world needs a new day. And that's sort
(22:43):
of what I feel when I'm thinking it. We definitely
need a new day. So, Billy, where where where was
your heart your head when you listened? And what did
it speak to you? And what do you want? I mean,
I know everybody wants whoever is listening to a song,
(23:03):
at least most artists, to take from what they need.
You know, take what you need and and let that
resonate in you. But was there something in particular that
you felt or connected to, like like for me, it's
my baby's faces and my grand babies faces, and and
that that the line about when I saw your face. Yeah,
(23:24):
I feel like I should make up some really deep story,
but I think I'm just gonna tell you the um
we had, Uh, we lost contact for years and she
went on her journey of life. I went on mine,
and but one thing stayed consistent was I never changed
(23:45):
to my email address. My email was fat faced. My
face is the first thing it usually gets bad on me.
And I named my first email I ever had fat faced,
and never changed and long behold, I I get this email,
like towards the end of twenty nineteen, No one's then.
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I'm just I'm celebrating. It's been a great year. And
everybody that old country road, the old tam road, Yeah, boy,
and yeah. And looking forward, I was nominated for some
Grammys and looking forward to January was the Grammys in
l A. And that's the thing. And she sent me
a song, a different song, and I thought, wow, man,
(24:29):
she still had it. She's. She persisted, she didn't give up,
and actually, like listen her recordings, she evolved. She's. You know,
success is the progressive realization of worthy ideas or goals,
not necessarily the attainment of them. And I said, man, she's.
And so I wrote it back and I said, I
love this song. She made a little video, a little
(24:50):
cartoon are all running, And I said, that kind of
reminds me of the girl that I'm at. It's running
girl and this little I'm looking at it. I said, hey,
you know what I was this is really good. Um,
I said, have you ever thought I sometimes I just
get feelings about things. I don't have a whole lot
of talent. I just go on those would no, no, no,
(25:13):
I just go on emotions and feelings. I get feelings
about things. And I heard this voice inside telling myself
to tell her, said have you ever heard of a
song called Delta Don? And she wrote back and said,
I'm looking it up right and now, so she checks
out the song. She goes, I love this song. I
love it. What would you do to it? I said, well,
(25:34):
I just make it you, you know, introduce it to
a whole new generation. And and and that's the one thing.
I added A little place for a guitar solo. It
never really had a solo. And I said, just get
one of your rock and roll friends out there to
blister an eighties rock guitar solo in the middle of
this and theymic storyline country song of Delta Don. Well,
(26:00):
not only did she say I'm gonna do it, she
did it, and she executed it to perfection. And like
three weeks later, she sent me this track that just
totally just kick my ass, and I was like, holy crap.
And it's impressive. A lot of people say they're going
to do something and they never do it, but it's
impressive when somebody says, hey, that's a good idea, I'm
(26:22):
gonna do it, and then they do it and I go, wow,
she killed it. So I'm coming out to the Grammys
in l A on January. I'm in Tennessee at the time. Okay,
I'm coming out. I'll come sing Delta don because before
she cut it, she said, if you'll cut it, if
you'll sing out it, I'm gonna go cut it. And
she killed it. So I'm going to l A. I'm
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gonna be there. I'll come in and sing. And I
loved what she did. And I get out there long behold,
Grammy's happened. Blah blah blah. Here it comes to pandemic.
I leave the Grammys and pretty much they shut the
lights off and locked the door and everything was shut down.
I did one more show. I did one show with
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Neil Diamond in Las Vegas and the next day I
barely met I flew out and that day they closed
everything and that was the last show I did. And
then so I didn't want to think I was just
flaking out, and I didn't. So I wrote it and said, I,
you know, obviously I didn't make it, and the pandemic
(27:24):
set in and it's locked down, and her being the
never give up or that she is, goes up well,
and I guess we'll just have to do it a
different way. And through um, we've all learned, you know,
that necessity is the mother of skill, or we've actually
learned repetition is the mother of skill. But through the pandemic,
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I kind of rewrote that a little bit, at least
for me, as to necessity as the mother of skill,
and when you need to do something, then you will
go through the repetition of learning in it. And I
kind of had to learn a whole new way of
stepping up my game of pro tools and everything that
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I've learned. I'm old school, you know, I'm like, wait,
I mean, we can make a record from across the
country and do it like this, and she kind of
taught me this way, and I'm always you know, we
started doing it. Song starts bobbing, and a year and
a half later, here we are and the song is out,
and it's just kind of crazy again. I think she's
(28:30):
a remarkable example of persistence. So now I'm dying to
hear your version of Delta. Don Okay, she's want and
a dad is still because of baby Baby. All the
folks around Browns will say she's crazy, crazy because she
(28:52):
walks down town like this in case in looking for
serious dark and you go with us deal, don't what's
that flower you got on Men in the Dead? I
(29:29):
love that? Al right, guys are awesome. That's crazy, No,
thank you. I just did this um uh animation that
Harry Connick Jr. Wrote and he wrote me in as
the possum, and I played the possum. I am a
possum in his if the show gets picked up, and
(29:49):
so I'm Harry Knick Junior, but no one knows and
probably never will. It was fun because George Jones was
one of my best friends. You know, George Johns, he
stopped love and heard he became one of my best friends.
And he actually introduced me to Johnny Cash. He drove
me there and meet Johnny Cash. Uh. George Johns struve
(30:14):
me to meet Johnny Cash, and so I told Harry
Connick Jr. That I wanted this role no matter what
it said, no matter what it did, because this was
my tribute to the possum. And so there you go.
And he killed it and he rest in peace. George
and Johnny Man, great man. God, I loved him so much.
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You just you just mentioned two of the biggest names
of my childhood. My dad was everybody in my world
is musical except for me. Um. My dad was in
a country western band. They started a country Western band
called Country Velvet, and so they would play at weddings,
and they would you know, play at the old folks home,
and they would always play at the Elks or the Eagles.
(30:57):
Every weekend they'd get a gig at the Elks of
the Eagles, and you know it was it was George Jones,
it was Johnny Cash, it was buck O's and the Buckaroos.
You know, that was that was what I grew up
listening to every night. You know when when they were
jamming in the living room and we lived in this
(31:18):
tiny little our house was feet you can't not hear
them jam all night long. And and uh, that's that's
my heart. That's where I go home to that's the music.
I go home to. Yeah, good stuff there, and you
got to meet them. I just want to kiss your
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face for that reason. That's possibility. Uh, that's fantastic. It
has been great spending time with Billy Ray, Cyrus and
the beautiful fire Rose. Billy Ray has been keeping us
entertained for decades, and I've no doubt he'll continue to
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do so for years to come. I'm looking forward to
more from fire Rose as well. She's a talented lady
with a lovely heart. But before we wrap up today's episode,
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leave you with this because you said you like Johnny Cash. Um.
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The reason George Jones drove me to meet Johnny Cash
with Jones was in my house and he saw a
letter hanging on the wall that Johnny Cash had written
me in. And you probably don't know this about me,
but I lived in my car and uh, I've had
ten years of failure of being a singer, songwriter, entertainer.
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I was supposed to be a baseball player. I was
going to be a catcher for the Cincinnati Reds. And
I heard this voice telling me about a guitar and
start a band and I'd find my purpose in life.
And I kind of went crazy and listened to the voice.
And after ten years of failure, I was about to
give up, and but finally someone said, yes, I've written
a song about a Vietnam Better and called some Gay Ball.
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And after ten years of being told no, I played
that song for a man and he said yes, and
it was with Mercury Records, and we made the album
Some Gave Hall, which included ak Breaky Heart written by
Vietnam Better and Lo and Behold. So a year later,
I wasn't living in my car anymore. It's so. In June,
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Johnny Cash wrote me a handwritten letter and in the
letter he said, it's good to be reminded where all
things that are good come from, Almighty God. And when
Jones read this letter, he said, have you ever met
Johnny Cash? And I said no, And he goes, well,
he's down in Franklin tonight. You want to go meet him.
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I said I'd love to, and he put me in
his car and drove me to meet Johnny Cash so
that I could thank him for rutting me later. And
that's kinda so I do, and to this day, you
know I do. I do good. Thanks for all thanks good,
and all good and perfect things come from the Father. Yeah, oh,
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that is a sweet story. Thank you for sharing that.
Thank you guys for Sharon today. Thank you for having us.
It's an honor to meet you, I hope, but see
you in persons, man, I hope. So you and your
husband taken me for a ride in your Is it
a Winni bagel? That's my husband's motor home. Um, mine
is not quite as fancy, just between us, I paid
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all twelve tho dollars for it. But I can Mama
can drive it. I'm not. Yeah, I don't. I've never
been fancy schmancy. Um. You know, I like. I like
thrift stores, and I like things that have been loved on. Uh.
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And and it's perfect because I don't have to say,
don't get that dirty, don't come in there with sand
on your feet, you know, because that's the whole purpose
of it is is it's it's the little it's the
camper for the grandkids. And I still have four kids
at home. So my my oldest is in her forties,
my youngest is five. So I'll be I'll be a thousand.
(36:24):
I'll be a thousand when I'm done um raising kids.
But you know it's so Yeah, you can come and
you can hop in my motor home or I have
a gator you can ride on here at the farm. Um,
I'm a gator ride in the sound of a gun.
I'll tell you that right now. I got I got
four wheels, I got quads. We could go up on
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the mountain and you can sing to me. I'll come
from Come on. Billy Ray Cyrus something of a chameleon
after thirty years in the limelight. He's still handsome, talented,
still writing, still recording, and totally game for whatever each
new day brings his way. His new single, this collaboration
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with newcomer and indie pop artist Fire Rose, is available
right now. Catch up with Billy Ray on his website
Billy Ray Cyrus dot com, and check in with fire
Rose on her website fire Rose music dot com. You'll
be able to find all the fun stuff on their
social media pages at Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok, and
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you can of course catch me here on Love Someone.
You can find me on my website Delilah dot com,
on Facebook, on Instagram, and of course nightly on my
radio program, where I hope to help smooth off the
rough edges of each new day and soothe a few akey,
(37:53):
breaky arts as well. Did I Know
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