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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are going to switch gears a getting ready for second
date update. Gabriel, give us a little bit about what's
going on with you.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I would love to get an update on my second date,
but the problem is the first date never even happened.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh sounds interesting. Second date update starts next with John
Jane Rich. It was supposed to be the start of
a beautiful relationship, but somebody screwed it all up.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Second date update right now with John Jay and Rich.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
John Jane Rich, it's time for second date update. We
talked to Gabriel. He went on a date with someone.
Apparently it's not going well. He's not get a callback
or what exactly is happening, Gabriel, you're not she's not
texting you back or what.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I don't, to be honest with you, I don't. I
don't really get it. I mean, I met this girl
a while back. We hit it off, we had a
great conversation and I asked her out. She said, yes,
we made plans. Everything seems solid, but then you know,
the day of the date, nothing, no text, no call,
just kind of just straight up ghosted me. I mean
I was I waited, kind of thinking maybe something came up.
(01:07):
Maybe she never you know, I don't know they emergencies happened,
but she never reached out after either. And it's kind
of been driving me crazy because I really liked her.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You know, you had the date, you went on the date.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
No, we never went date.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We set everything up and we never even went on.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A date first.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, pretty much. And you know, I'm sitting
here thinking like, like, was it something I said? Did
I did she changed her mind? Look, I just want
to know why, you know, if she wasn't into it, fine,
but at least say something, you know, like I keep
running through our conversations and I swear there were no
there's no red flags. It's like, you know, one minute
we're making plans and the next what I don't exist?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, so you know, what are we talking FaceTime? Text?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
What?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Not? Really some much FaceTime? I mean we were definitely
texting and phone call conversations and I, yeah, everything seemed
to be going great, and you know, but now I'm
you know, I'm debating if I should even bother reaching
out or just let it go. But you know, I
need to know what happened, Like why did you just
drop off.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Did you have plans and you went somewhere and she
no showed? Like, what do we talk about as far
as like that's what happened. You're sitting at a restaurant
by yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, no, because I didn't hear from her at all,
like during so you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Didn't go her day, So she might not have she
might have gone.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I don't think. No, I how do you doubt what
she went because I was just trying to check in
with her throughout the day and just you know, just
make conversation or just verify where we're going on, what's
going on, you know, things like that, and it's just nothing.
Did not hear anything back from her.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
So that's a good point you bring up, John Jay,
because I remember I was in college and I was
dating this guy and the worst, and I remember I
had plans, like we had plans to hang out on Wednesday,
and I had been texting him leading up to Wednesday
and he wasn't getting back to me. And then I
saw him on Wednesday. He's like, I told you I
would see you on Wednesday. And I was like, bro,
(02:56):
you didn't text me back, Like I'm calling you, like
you're not getting back to me. He's like, well, I
told you I would see you on Wednesday, and it's
Wednesday and I see you. And I was like, dude,
middle fingers up, like fun annoying, so annoying, but like
you do have a good point, John Jay.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I have. I'm going to my wife and I going
to dinner with some friends on Thursday at like five
five thirty. And the last and I'm the one making
the plans of my friend and the last plans we had,
the last conversation we had was about two weeks ago.
We already picked the date is this Thursday. And the
last place was like, where do you want to go?
And neither one of us has picked anything yet, right,
So I don't feel like responding. So what happens?
Speaker 7 (03:29):
You know that it's not going to happen because I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Want to have to call the restaurant or call somebody
I know to get it.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
You don't solidify the plans, they probably won't happen, right.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Right, But what happens if they don't happen? Do we
just like this just I'll just go to a random restaurant,
go you didn't show up? In this case, you.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Know they may have had a restaurant picked and you
might be right, John Jays.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
She maybe she did just shut up, or maybe she
had a boyfriend. Yeah, and I was like, oh, I
can't actually go meet this one too far.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Maybe she's having fun on the app. Yeah, all right,
let's call her. You said her name is Bailey to
get her on the phone. We're gonna find out why
she's blown you off. Okay, Bailey bailed, Thank you? All right.
Second date update continues next with H Jay and Rich
d I D John Jane Rich. We got Gabriel, who
made plans to go out with Bailey, going back and
(04:17):
forth and made the plans and then it just stopped,
right Gabriel, she just stopped text Like what was the
last text?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We were kind of just like, you know, good night
the night before and like you know again confirming the day.
Can't wait to see you tomorrow, you know, you know
you so much fun. Yeah, I can't I can't wait.
And then the next day nothing no response, no answer,
no no text, no anything.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Fascinating. This is fascinating. All right, We're gonna get her
on the phone and find out why she's blown you off.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Hold on, hold on, Hello, Hi is Bailey?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
There.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Hey, my name's Peyton.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
I'm with John Jay and Rich and we just wanted
to talk to you on the radio quickly about something.
If you got time.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Sure, Hey, Bailey, we do a thing on our show
sometimes we talk to people that went out on dates
and had great times and they thought there'd be a
second date or a third date. It doesn't happen, and
we try to get to the bottom of it. Right.
Are you following me here so far? Bailey?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, I'm falling.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay. We have something like that that involves you. The
problem is there was never a first date, so we're
trying to figure out where did things go wrong before
even the date started?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Uh huh?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And we're talking about a date you were supposed to
go on with a guy named Gabriel. What happened?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm sorry? He's asking like why, like ghosted him?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes? Oh so you admit it you ghosted him? Yes?
What happened?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean, I'm sorry. I can't believe you've even serious
like men these days? Like does he really think I
could just drop everything and magically show up for a
date when I have a four year old at home?
He knew I was a mom and not one city
asked if I needed to help with a sitter, not
one city asked to cover it, Like nothing, do you
(06:18):
guys just assume like babysitters grow on trees?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Oh so you guys said him, he didn't pay for
you to have a babysitter for your date.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Or I I was waiting for him to show me
that he like actually understood what dating me me, but
like he didn't. So yeah, when the date came, I just, yeah,
I didn't go because if he was wasn't thinking about me.
Now what does that say about the future? And honestly,
(06:51):
if he doesn't get it, I don't have the energy
to explain it to him.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, oh so let me get this straight. You go
through me because I didn't offer to pay for a babysitter.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
Okay, whoa all right?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Way to dumb it down. I ghosted you because you
didn't even think about it. You asked me out knowing
I have a four year old, but somehow you thought
my biggest challenge would be taking out a cute outfit.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, yeah, I've just figured that.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You know that i'd magically pull a babysitter out of
the air, that I just eat the cost of one
so I could sit across room you at dinner. Come on, Gabriel,
I already pay for daycare, food, clothes, everything for my kid.
So yeah, if a guy wants my time, I need
him to get that. And it takes effort on my
(07:48):
end too.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, but you could have just told me that was
like the issue. You know, I would have helped. But
he didn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
See that's no, that's the problem right there. I shouldn't
have to spell it out for you. Like a guy
who actually understands what dating the mom means, he would
have thought about this before I had.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
To bring it up.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I think this is very valid. I've never thought about
this before until right now.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
But I kind of feel like, if he doesn't have kids,
you do kind of have to spell it out for him. Yeah,
because he doesn't know. I mean that, like it is
a really difficult thing to get and find a babysitter,
but it's like you don't want him to find that babysitter.
Would you trust that babysitter.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I know I pay for it.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean to offer it, but like if you're
not even giving an ink late, like he doesn't know.
Maybe your mom doesn't watch the you know your kid
or something, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You have you would know, you wouldn't know to say that.
So this actually so our second ate update. Today's second
ate update could be used as a information a PSA
to guys out there dating moms, and maybe moms right
now are listening, going what a relief? What way to go, Bailey?
Way to get that message out there. But I mean,
I'm assuming you've been through this a few times and
you finally got so frustrated and you're like, I'm not
going to deal with this gaybril guy.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well yeah, well, and like some people get it right,
and like I just want to mid, who's going to
be showing me like a little more effort. And it
just shows that like, yeah, he's clearly never dated a
mom that it didn't even occur to him to be like, oh,
like who watches you know your kid when you're you're
out and about.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well you said it though, if he's never dated a mom,
then he doesn't know really, so I wonder and he
just said I'd be happy to offer it. I think
you got to give him a little bit of a
pass and maybe you got to kind of tell him, hey,
this is different. This is a different territory that we're
in now. He sounds like he's down with it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Good, but that's like, that's it, no second chance, Like
you're really just kind of done over this.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Well yeah you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You could none of none of you do to get this,
and it just you probably wouldn't get a lot of
things later. And honestly, I don't have time to train
a man to be thoughtful and like, honestly like no
hard feelings, Gabriel, But you had your shot.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Maybe what Bailey should be looking for is like someone
who does have kids, who gets to play, you know,
who understands that life because it does change. It changes
quite a bit once you have kids. But yeah, it's
probably it's probably just not a good match for you too.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So I just got to take this l You should
have just invited the kid along on your date.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh god, we.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Pull up on a motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Honestly, I just think Gabriel maybe shouldn't date a girl that.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Has kids because we don't have to worry about.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
I mean, well, maybe this will be his learning, but
going to.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Be God forbid, something ever happens and I and I'm single,
and I go out with the woman that's got kids
for Hey, now you got kids? You want me to
pay for the babysitter? Is that how you do it?
That's what you do, right, I mean, maybe I'll pay
for the base hitter. Yeah, will there be at the
end of the state. I think that.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I depends on the conversation though, right, Like if you're
talking to someone you're like, oh, yeah, I'd love to
go out, but I do have to find a sitter.
Might take me a while. I'll let you know if
I'm available. Like, I think that's the perfect opportunity to say, hey,
I got you on the babysit.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Does a guy have to pay for you to get
your hair done and all that stuff too?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
If you want me?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
No, no, little no, not really but different. Yeah, some
girls are like that. Some girls want the hair done
and the makeup done and the nails done and for
their man to pay for that. Not every I mean
it's different for everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Listen. It's no second date though, right, you're saying barely
no second eight.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, no second date, but no hard feeling.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Okay, Gabriel got it, Yeah, I get lesson learned. I
guess all right, thanks for going on there. This you
guys eight seven to seven, nine, three, seven one or
four seven that's second Ate updates. John Jay and Rich.
People are fired up about the second Ate update. Tess up,
(11:54):
good morning, what's your What's up? Go ahead?
Speaker 10 (11:56):
I John Jay. I am so freaking tissed right now.
I cannot even who does Bailey think she is? Seriously,
I'm feel so sorry for Gabriel. I mean, what a
decent guy. What is she expect him to pay her
like trash bill pay for everything. It's like he should
like just take care of her because he wants to
(12:17):
take her out for a date. Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
This is what the.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Problem is with men, and they think, you know, oh
I'm taking a nice lady out and it's just oh
mad right now?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I fired up? Is right? That's the problem with men.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
I cannot even contain how I'm like sideriously shaking here
in traffic. I'm so mad right now.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Oh okay, but who are you mad at? Are you
mad at Gabriel or are you mad at it?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
No?
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Gabriel is Oh my god, he's a saint, that poor guy.
I feel so bad for him.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
That's how I sent him, Like, you can't be mad
at somebody for not knowing what they don't know. If
you expect them to pay, you should say something and
then let him decide, because he might go like, well, hey,
I don't I don't want to have to pay for
your babysitter. I'm not the kid's dad. Do you want
to go out figure it out? He could say that,
but she didn't give him the option.
Speaker 10 (13:08):
No, she didn't. She is like a whole other level
of v lulu and crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I mean, she is just.
Speaker 10 (13:16):
I just look at her as a woman that she
just gives a bad name to those that are trying
to find a nice guykgate and who are parents?
Speaker 8 (13:25):
Because I have five kids.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
The first thing you do is you tell a guy
you know I have children, But if you're looking to
go out, you're not accepting them to hit the bill
for your babysitter, for their kids, food for the night
for I mean, like, what does she want him to do?
Do you her light dry cleaning? As well? Like you can
put gas in my car to get me there?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That I think, Wow, Tessa, you said you're frustrated listening
to us in traffic. Where exactly are you? I'm trying
to get a visual so I can like, I want
to see things through your eyes. Where are you?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Free were you on? Well?
Speaker 10 (13:58):
I was on Grand Avenue. I just got off because
I'm so mad. The people next to me were looking
at me, and I think they were concerned because I
was screamed.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
All right, Tessa, thank you so much for listening. Drive safe,
Thank you, Lindsey.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Bye, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Second.
Speaker 9 (14:19):
I am with her. I'm with her one hundred per
I too.
Speaker 11 (14:22):
Am a single mom of two kids.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
At a first date is for two people to go
and get to know each other. You both need to
be interested and invested. No one owes the other one anything.
It is insane for her to think that he should
pay for her babies are that's her job. Make yourself free,
And if you do make yourself free and tell someone
you're available, it's rude on your part to ghostem period
point Blake, he doesn't owe you anything. If you don't
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want to meet somebody unless they pay your bills for everything,
that's what you need to be upfront about. That's where
your clue is, not him. This is a U issue, Bailey,
no one else, Plenty of us just want to have
a nice time with a nice guy. And don't expect
anything if it moves forward. That's a conversation that have
a first date is to get to know each other.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You don't know each other.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Jack, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Fair enough. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Thanks, I'd love you, passion, Lizzie, thank you so much.
He'll problem Donna, good morning on the air.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
I just want to say, Gabriel, you got a huge
red flag seen Gabriel all the way like.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
As a people on myself.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Okay, thanks Donna one to uh yeah, do that on
the first date.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yea, good morning, to help you.
Speaker 12 (15:32):
I wanted to respond. I wanted to respond to the
second day, go ahead. Oh, I just wanted.
Speaker 11 (15:39):
To say too, Like I totally disagree with the callers
that she expected her date to pay for her baby
like babysitter.
Speaker 12 (15:50):
I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
First of all, like that's.
Speaker 12 (15:52):
Something you need to do with your baby, dad and
yourself or a family member, like that's not the one
who's coming into the picture for the first time to
take responsibility of that. And then second to throw out
that she already pays for daycare and her child's clothing
and her care, like, girl, that's your baby. That is
your child, your responsibility. This is not your baby, daddy.
(16:13):
You're talking to take.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
That all out on him.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Very very true, very true. Thank you for calling in. Yeah,
of course, good bye, Stephanie.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Hi, Hi, So, as a single mom, not once did
I ever, ever, ever expect a guy to pay for
my kid child care, daycare, or to go on a date,
not even to help pay for it. No, that's your
responsibility if you're dating. No, you're right, that's ridiculous for Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Think we all we're with you, Stephanie, Thank you, Candy,
good morning.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Hi.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
Hi So, I started out a single mother. I am
actually married to the man that I have, that I
was with when she was very young, and I would
have never, in my wildest dreams to ask him to
pay for a babysitter. If I wanted to go out,
I wanted to go out, I pay for it. I
(17:07):
get dressed. I do all that on my own because
I am a single mother, I am independent. I take
care of what I need to take care of.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, wasn't it interesting too, It's not like Gabriel was
resistant even so, oh, if that's important to you, let's
do that. And she shut them down again. So there
must have just not been enough magic between the twos.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Also kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Feel like there must have been some sort of trauma
from a different relationship where she was just totally misunderstood
as a single mom, where it's like there are people
who don't realize, like, these kids are going to be
important to me, These kids are going to be my
number one priority. So I kind of felt like maybe
in a relationship she had before, that person didn't understand.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
That it was unusually hostile.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, when Coyle said very unreasonable, when Kyle said there
must have been some trauma, I was like, oh, there
must have been some magic in that old top hat.
They found you dead.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
So centic adult ADHD and full blow them right there.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
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Are going to switch gears a getting ready for second
date update. Gabriel, give us a little bit about what's
going on with you.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Matt.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I would love to get an update on my second date,
but the problem is the first date never even happened.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh sounds interesting. Second date update starts next with John
Jane Rich. It was supposed to be the start of
a beautiful relationship, but somebody screwed it all up.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Second date update right now with John Jay and Rich.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
John Jane Rich, it's time for second date update. We
talked to Gabriel. He went on a date with someone.
Apparently it's not going well. He's not get a callback
or what exactly is happening, Gabriel, you're not she's not
texting you back or what.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I don't, to be honest with you, I don't. I
don't really get it. I mean, I met this girl
a while back. We hit it off, we had a
great conversation and I asked her out. She said, yes,
we made plans. Everything seems solid, but then you know,
the day of the date, nothing, no text, no call,
just kind of just straight up ghosted me. I mean
I was I waited, kind of thinking maybe something came up.
(01:07):
Maybe she never you know, I don't know they emergencies happened,
but she never reached out after either. And it's kind
of been driving me crazy because I really liked her.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You know, you had the date, you went on the date.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
No, we never went date.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We set everything up and we never even went on.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
A date first.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, pretty much. And you know, I'm sitting
here thinking like, like, was it something I said? Did
I did she changed her mind? Look, I just want
to know why, you know, if she wasn't into it, fine,
but at least say something, you know, like I keep
running through our conversations and I swear there were no
there's no red flags. It's like, you know, one minute
we're making plans and the next what I don't exist?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, so you know, what are we talking FaceTime? Text?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
What?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Not? Really some much FaceTime? I mean we were definitely
texting and phone call conversations and I, yeah, everything seemed
to be going great, and you know, but now I'm
you know, I'm debating if I should even bother reaching
out or just let it go. But you know, I
need to know what happened, Like why did you just
drop off.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Did you have plans and you went somewhere and she
no showed? Like, what do we talk about as far
as like that's what happened. You're sitting at a restaurant
by yourself.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, no, because I didn't hear from her at all,
like during so you.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Didn't go her day, So she might not have she
might have gone.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I don't think. No, I how do you doubt what
she went because I was just trying to check in
with her throughout the day and just you know, just
make conversation or just verify where we're going on, what's
going on, you know, things like that, and it's just nothing.
Did not hear anything back from her.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
So that's a good point you bring up, John Jay,
because I remember I was in college and I was
dating this guy and the worst, and I remember I
had plans, like we had plans to hang out on Wednesday,
and I had been texting him leading up to Wednesday
and he wasn't getting back to me. And then I
saw him on Wednesday. He's like, I told you I
would see you on Wednesday. And I was like, bro,
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you didn't text me back, Like I'm calling you, like
you're not getting back to me. He's like, well, I
told you I would see you on Wednesday, and it's
Wednesday and I see you. And I was like, dude,
middle fingers up, like fun annoying, so annoying, but like
you do have a good point, John Jay.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I have. I'm going to my wife and I going
to dinner with some friends on Thursday at like five
five thirty. And the last and I'm the one making
the plans of my friend and the last plans we had,
the last conversation we had was about two weeks ago.
We already picked the date is this Thursday. And the
last place was like, where do you want to go?
And neither one of us has picked anything yet, right,
So I don't feel like responding. So what happens?
Speaker 7 (03:29):
You know that it's not going to happen because I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Want to have to call the restaurant or call somebody
I know to get it.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
You don't solidify the plans, they probably won't happen, right.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Right, But what happens if they don't happen? Do we
just like this just I'll just go to a random restaurant,
go you didn't show up? In this case, you.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Know they may have had a restaurant picked and you
might be right, John Jays.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
She maybe she did just shut up, or maybe she
had a boyfriend. Yeah, and I was like, oh, I
can't actually go meet this one too far.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Maybe she's having fun on the app. Yeah, all right,
let's call her. You said her name is Bailey to
get her on the phone. We're gonna find out why
she's blown you off. Okay, Bailey bailed, Thank you? All right.
Second date update continues next with H Jay and Rich
d I D John Jane Rich. We got Gabriel, who
made plans to go out with Bailey, going back and
(04:17):
forth and made the plans and then it just stopped,
right Gabriel, she just stopped text Like what was the
last text?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We were kind of just like, you know, good night
the night before and like you know again confirming the day.
Can't wait to see you tomorrow, you know, you know
you so much fun. Yeah, I can't I can't wait.
And then the next day nothing no response, no answer,
no no text, no anything.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Fascinating. This is fascinating. All right, We're gonna get her
on the phone and find out why she's blown you off.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Hold on, hold on, Hello, Hi is Bailey?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
There.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Hey, my name's Peyton.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
I'm with John Jay and Rich and we just wanted
to talk to you on the radio quickly about something.
If you got time.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Sure, Hey, Bailey, we do a thing on our show
sometimes we talk to people that went out on dates
and had great times and they thought there'd be a
second date or a third date. It doesn't happen, and
we try to get to the bottom of it. Right.
Are you following me here so far? Bailey?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, I'm falling.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay. We have something like that that involves you. The
problem is there was never a first date, so we're
trying to figure out where did things go wrong before
even the date started?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Uh huh?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And we're talking about a date you were supposed to
go on with a guy named Gabriel. What happened?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I'm sorry? He's asking like why, like ghosted him?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes? Oh so you admit it you ghosted him? Yes?
What happened?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean, I'm sorry. I can't believe you've even serious
like men these days? Like does he really think I
could just drop everything and magically show up for a
date when I have a four year old at home?
He knew I was a mom and not one city
asked if I needed to help with a sitter, not
one city asked to cover it, Like nothing, do you
(06:18):
guys just assume like babysitters grow on trees?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Oh so you guys said him, he didn't pay for
you to have a babysitter for your date.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Or I I was waiting for him to show me
that he like actually understood what dating me me, but
like he didn't. So yeah, when the date came, I just, yeah,
I didn't go because if he was wasn't thinking about me.
Now what does that say about the future? And honestly,
(06:51):
if he doesn't get it, I don't have the energy
to explain it to him.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, oh so let me get this straight. You go
through me because I didn't offer to pay for a babysitter.
Speaker 8 (07:02):
Okay, whoa all right?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Way to dumb it down. I ghosted you because you
didn't even think about it. You asked me out knowing
I have a four year old, but somehow you thought
my biggest challenge would be taking out a cute outfit.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, yeah, I've just figured that.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You know that i'd magically pull a babysitter out of
the air, that I just eat the cost of one
so I could sit across room you at dinner. Come on, Gabriel,
I already pay for daycare, food, clothes, everything for my kid.
So yeah, if a guy wants my time, I need
him to get that. And it takes effort on my
(07:48):
end too.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, but you could have just told me that was
like the issue. You know, I would have helped. But
he didn't say anything.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
See that's no, that's the problem right there. I shouldn't
have to spell it out for you. Like a guy
who actually understands what dating the mom means, he would
have thought about this before I had.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
To bring it up.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I think this is very valid. I've never thought about
this before until right now.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
But I kind of feel like, if he doesn't have kids,
you do kind of have to spell it out for him. Yeah,
because he doesn't know. I mean that, like it is
a really difficult thing to get and find a babysitter,
but it's like you don't want him to find that babysitter.
Would you trust that babysitter.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I know I pay for it.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean to offer it, but like if you're
not even giving an ink late, like he doesn't know.
Maybe your mom doesn't watch the you know your kid
or something, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You have you would know, you wouldn't know to say that.
So this actually so our second ate update. Today's second
ate update could be used as a information a PSA
to guys out there dating moms, and maybe moms right
now are listening, going what a relief? What way to go, Bailey?
Way to get that message out there. But I mean,
I'm assuming you've been through this a few times and
you finally got so frustrated and you're like, I'm not
going to deal with this gaybril guy.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well yeah, well, and like some people get it right,
and like I just want to mid, who's going to
be showing me like a little more effort. And it
just shows that like, yeah, he's clearly never dated a
mom that it didn't even occur to him to be like, oh,
like who watches you know your kid when you're you're
out and about.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well you said it though, if he's never dated a mom,
then he doesn't know really, so I wonder and he
just said I'd be happy to offer it. I think
you got to give him a little bit of a
pass and maybe you got to kind of tell him, hey,
this is different. This is a different territory that we're
in now. He sounds like he's down with it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Good, but that's like, that's it, no second chance, Like
you're really just kind of done over this.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Well yeah you're not.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You could none of none of you do to get this,
and it just you probably wouldn't get a lot of
things later. And honestly, I don't have time to train
a man to be thoughtful and like, honestly like no
hard feelings, Gabriel, But you had your shot.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Maybe what Bailey should be looking for is like someone
who does have kids, who gets to play, you know,
who understands that life because it does change. It changes
quite a bit once you have kids. But yeah, it's
probably it's probably just not a good match for you too.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So I just got to take this l You should
have just invited the kid along on your date.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh god, we.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Pull up on a motorcycle.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Honestly, I just think Gabriel maybe shouldn't date a girl that.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Has kids because we don't have to worry about.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
I mean, well, maybe this will be his learning, but
going to.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Be God forbid, something ever happens and I and I'm single,
and I go out with the woman that's got kids
for Hey, now you got kids? You want me to
pay for the babysitter? Is that how you do it?
That's what you do, right, I mean, maybe I'll pay
for the base hitter. Yeah, will there be at the
end of the state. I think that.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I depends on the conversation though, right, Like if you're
talking to someone you're like, oh, yeah, I'd love to
go out, but I do have to find a sitter.
Might take me a while. I'll let you know if
I'm available. Like, I think that's the perfect opportunity to say, hey,
I got you on the babysit.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Does a guy have to pay for you to get
your hair done and all that stuff too?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
If you want me?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
No, no, little no, not really but different. Yeah, some
girls are like that. Some girls want the hair done
and the makeup done and the nails done and for
their man to pay for that. Not every I mean
it's different for everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Listen. It's no second date though, right, you're saying barely
no second eight.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, no second date, but no hard feeling.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Okay, Gabriel got it, Yeah, I get lesson learned. I
guess all right, thanks for going on there. This you
guys eight seven to seven, nine, three, seven one or
four seven that's second Ate updates. John Jay and Rich.
People are fired up about the second Ate update. Tess up,
(11:54):
good morning, what's your What's up? Go ahead?
Speaker 10 (11:56):
I John Jay. I am so freaking tissed right now.
I cannot even who does Bailey think she is? Seriously,
I'm feel so sorry for Gabriel. I mean, what a
decent guy. What is she expect him to pay her
like trash bill pay for everything. It's like he should
like just take care of her because he wants to
(12:17):
take her out for a date. Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
This is what the.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
Problem is with men, and they think, you know, oh
I'm taking a nice lady out and it's just oh
mad right now?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I fired up? Is right? That's the problem with men.
Speaker 10 (12:36):
I cannot even contain how I'm like sideriously shaking here
in traffic. I'm so mad right now.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Oh okay, but who are you mad at? Are you
mad at Gabriel or are you mad at it?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
No?
Speaker 10 (12:46):
Gabriel is Oh my god, he's a saint, that poor guy.
I feel so bad for him.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
That's how I sent him, Like, you can't be mad
at somebody for not knowing what they don't know. If
you expect them to pay, you should say something and
then let him decide, because he might go like, well, hey,
I don't I don't want to have to pay for
your babysitter. I'm not the kid's dad. Do you want
to go out figure it out? He could say that,
but she didn't give him the option.
Speaker 10 (13:08):
No, she didn't. She is like a whole other level
of v lulu and crazy.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I mean, she is just.
Speaker 10 (13:16):
I just look at her as a woman that she
just gives a bad name to those that are trying
to find a nice guykgate and who are parents?
Speaker 8 (13:25):
Because I have five kids.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
The first thing you do is you tell a guy
you know I have children, But if you're looking to
go out, you're not accepting them to hit the bill
for your babysitter, for their kids, food for the night
for I mean, like, what does she want him to do?
Do you her light dry cleaning? As well? Like you can
put gas in my car to get me there?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That I think, Wow, Tessa, you said you're frustrated listening
to us in traffic. Where exactly are you? I'm trying
to get a visual so I can like, I want
to see things through your eyes. Where are you?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Free were you on? Well?
Speaker 10 (13:58):
I was on Grand Avenue. I just got off because
I'm so mad. The people next to me were looking
at me, and I think they were concerned because I
was screamed.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
All right, Tessa, thank you so much for listening. Drive safe,
Thank you, Lindsey.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Bye, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Second.
Speaker 9 (14:19):
I am with her. I'm with her one hundred per
I too.
Speaker 11 (14:22):
Am a single mom of two kids.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
At a first date is for two people to go
and get to know each other. You both need to
be interested and invested. No one owes the other one anything.
It is insane for her to think that he should
pay for her babies are that's her job. Make yourself free,
And if you do make yourself free and tell someone
you're available, it's rude on your part to ghostem period
point Blake, he doesn't owe you anything. If you don't
(14:45):
want to meet somebody unless they pay your bills for everything,
that's what you need to be upfront about. That's where
your clue is, not him. This is a U issue, Bailey,
no one else, Plenty of us just want to have
a nice time with a nice guy. And don't expect
anything if it moves forward. That's a conversation that have
a first date is to get to know each other.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You don't know each other.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Jack, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Fair enough. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Thanks, I'd love you, passion, Lizzie, thank you so much.
He'll problem Donna, good morning on the air.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
I just want to say, Gabriel, you got a huge
red flag seen Gabriel all the way like.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
As a people on myself.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Okay, thanks Donna one to uh yeah, do that on
the first date.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yea, good morning, to help you.
Speaker 12 (15:32):
I wanted to respond. I wanted to respond to the
second day, go ahead. Oh, I just wanted.
Speaker 11 (15:39):
To say too, Like I totally disagree with the callers
that she expected her date to pay for her baby
like babysitter.
Speaker 12 (15:50):
I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
First of all, like that's.
Speaker 12 (15:52):
Something you need to do with your baby, dad and
yourself or a family member, like that's not the one
who's coming into the picture for the first time to
take responsibility of that. And then second to throw out
that she already pays for daycare and her child's clothing
and her care, like, girl, that's your baby. That is
your child, your responsibility. This is not your baby, daddy.
(16:13):
You're talking to take.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
That all out on him.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Very very true, very true. Thank you for calling in. Yeah,
of course, good bye, Stephanie.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
Hi, Hi, So, as a single mom, not once did
I ever, ever, ever expect a guy to pay for
my kid child care, daycare, or to go on a date,
not even to help pay for it. No, that's your
responsibility if you're dating. No, you're right, that's ridiculous for Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Think we all we're with you, Stephanie, Thank you, Candy,
good morning.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Hi.
Speaker 13 (16:45):
Hi So, I started out a single mother. I am
actually married to the man that I have, that I
was with when she was very young, and I would
have never, in my wildest dreams to ask him to
pay for a babysitter. If I wanted to go out,
I wanted to go out, I pay for it. I
(17:07):
get dressed. I do all that on my own because
I am a single mother, I am independent. I take
care of what I need to take care of.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, wasn't it interesting too, It's not like Gabriel was
resistant even so, oh, if that's important to you, let's
do that. And she shut them down again. So there
must have just not been enough magic between the twos.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Also kind of.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Feel like there must have been some sort of trauma
from a different relationship where she was just totally misunderstood
as a single mom, where it's like there are people
who don't realize, like, these kids are going to be
important to me, These kids are going to be my
number one priority. So I kind of felt like maybe
in a relationship she had before, that person didn't understand.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
That it was unusually hostile.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, when Coyle said very unreasonable, when Kyle said there
must have been some trauma, I was like, oh, there
must have been some magic in that old top hat.
They found you dead.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
So centic adult ADHD and full blow them right there.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
You know, here's a suggestion, because every phone line is
ringing right now, this could be our afterwards podcast today.
We will continue to address this issue on our Afterwards podcast.
So feel free to call eight seven seven ninety three
seven one oh four seven and we dropped the podcast today.
You'll be on it. That's what we'll do.
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