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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, mamma, this is our second couple's podcasts that we're
doing together, and I got to say a lot of
people are really excited to have you on here. So
repeat guest Kadie's Kick to the Curb.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, I'm very delighted that that I'm included in these
because they're actually pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
They are fun and we get to take intentional time
to sit down and chat.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So I'm not gonna lie him a little hungover today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Shame on you, Pat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think I was hungover last time we did this too,
But who cares.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm in my prime. I'm twenty seven. I should be going.
I should be hungover on Sundays. I got no kids.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'll give you Uncle Te's phone number. You can call
him after the problem.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, for those for those that don't know, Uncle t
is my uncle and my godfather, and he is my
memme's youngest brother and he is like in the Day
of the Youngest, second to the youngest, and he is
the a guru. He helps people with alcohol and drug problems.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't need to see Uncle tea anyway. Maybe I do.
I'm joking, but no. So we had our cousin's Christmas
party last night.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It was our fourth annual cousins Christmas party, and it's
like I want to say, it's from the ages of
like twenty three to like forty five. It's kind of
where we are with our cousins. And we've talked about
her a little bit on the show, like our fun
Christmas traditions. But Mammy, I feel like you have to
get into like our family Christmas because you're one of ten.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, so we're I'm one of ten kids. We loved Christmas.
We were it was so joyful. We had a big
ham every Christmas set my father would make and my
grandmother would come, the only time we would see her
all year, even though she only lived.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Like two miles away.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So I guess that tells you something about having ten kids.
But she would say, oh, Jimmy kin, sure charm a ham.
So we call it the charmed Ham. And the youngest brother,
number ten, Kevin, has taken on that tradition and he
makes the charm hand ham every year. But we had
a wonderful time. Everybody went to maths. We would be
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allowed to get into our stockings first thing before my
parents should wake up, and then we would get our
gifts under the tree, which always consisted of socks and
pajamas and maybe a toy. It was about it, but man,
it was the greatest time ever. So as we grew older,
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we all wound up starting to get together and have
everyone come for Christmas. Kevin the youngest again did it
for like twenty years every year, and then at some
point he had a motorcycle accident. He had some health issues.
Thank god he's one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was crazy, like he almost died. You remember he
lost a couple couple inches.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, he did. It was it was bad, It was
it was really bad. And then I took over the
Hornswaggler and Terry because we're the three little kids. There's
I'm number seven. I'm sorry, I'm number eight, nine and ten,
and then Terry and Donna and his wife and sorry
aunt Sue. She also of course was a part of
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Kevin the festivities and would have the entire family over
and all of the nieces and nephews. And then there
were other people that joined in and other some of
your cousins Sean and Brian, and they wound up doing
in the rotation, and even Ryan, Kevin's youngest, wound up
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doing a rotation. COVID killed our Hornswaggler Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I feel like we need to like pause for a
second and explain a little bit what the hornswaggle is
like Hornswaggler Christmas, because people that are listening have no
clue what the hell.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay, perfect, So everyone gets together at someone's house. We
hosted the last Christmas get together, and the hornswaggler is
our gift exchange.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's like our version of the white Elephant.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, so that is a good way to do it.
The last in twenty nineteen, we had one hundred and
seventeen people here in our house. So it turned into.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
This ginormous festival.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And the gifts for Hornswaggle, well, we would always introduce
all the new hornswagglers and teach them our hornswaggle song,
which is have yourself phoneorn swaggler Christmas.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
May your gifts be shit.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The end is our hornswaggle cry, and you put your
thumbs in your ears and make reindeers. So anyway, it
was great and so you could get a good gift
or you could get a bad gift. A lot of joke.
Every year we would have a litany of things added
like no Christmas shit, no as seen on TV shit,
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no booze shit, though that's still you are.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Still get the good booze. I remember one year I
lucked out.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think I was like nineteen, and I got the
big ass gray goose bottle.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I was not allowed to drink and everyone kept trying
to steal it from me.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I was like, hold on, time out, I still got
two years to sit on this bottle.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm taking this bitch to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah. So after everybody has a wonderful Christmas dinner, then
the people that are participating in hornswagglers, and I think
the last time there were like fifty of them, so
wounded up.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know it wound up.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Being about four or five hours long. It didn't break
up until after midnight. And we all start about four
in the afternoon, and everybody brings a gift and they're
all anonymous, and you pick numbers as far as when
you go you have two we have rules that are
that you can keep the gift. You go to the table,
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you pick your gift on the first gift, then you
have two people that can take your gift, and then
you have to go back to the table to hit
the two steals or swaggles as we call them. And
so I'm sure that doesn't make any sense. Maybe Peyton
might have some footage from last night because when COVID.
When COVID hit, we stopped our Christmas get together. So
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Peyton resurrected it. And after one year I think of
it being dark and that was twenty twenty, Peyton decided
to do it with the cousins and she got everybody
interested in it. She's carried on this tradition which is
really really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, it's really fun, and don't get me wrong, I
feel like Christmas it was more so for like us
younger cousins at that point, Like you guys are old and.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Tired and wanted to know part of it. You guys
see each.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Other multiple times a month, anyways, that was kind of
our time. Once a year we'd get together because like
I was in college, I was gone for so long
that those are the only time I got to see
my family and my cousins. So yesterday was our fourth
annual cousins Christmas, and we've done like a couple of
different things. Like the first year, we kind of just
hung out at the house, but we didn't do a
horn swaggle. And then the next year we were like,
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how about we rent a party bus, we get drunk
and we go around and look at Christmas lights and.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Then last year we decided to switch it up again
and go bar hopping, and that was the worst decision
we could have ever possibly made. It was freezing, the
bars were packed, it was absolutely terrible. We were like,
screw this, We're going home, and then we ended up
going to the gay bar Charlie's. We dipped in our
Christmas pajamas. But last night my cousin Geo he hosted.
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There was sixteen of us. We had two new horn
schwagglers that got to play, Jalen's boyfriend Alex and then
Megan's brother's new girlfriend Zanna, And there was a couple
of like gag gifts, but there was also a couple
of really really good gifts. Sally am taking pride in
my gift because for one, well, Kadeem did thirty dollars
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in lottery tickets, but we dressed it up in like
a little weed bag, so people thought they were getting weed,
but it was just lottery tickets.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So that was good.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And then I ended up doing like a gas gift card.
And the reason that I felt it was so good
is because I know everyone in our family drives an
electric vehicle.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So if you end up with the gas card and
you have an electric car that sucks, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And on one little point to throw in. So there
are nice gifts, there are you know, gifts that you
might not you know, really want but they're not. And
then there are the gag gifts yep. And the gag
gifts are the horn swaggles. That's where you get horn swaggles. Yeah,
And so it depends like I've gotten a blow up
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doll I've gotten.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do you remember when Megan and Devin my cousin's Megan
and Devin, they went j They had the best gift
of the night last night.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
But they went.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
To Japan they had just gotten engaged, they weren't married yet,
And I remember being so pissed at them because it
was when we hosted Christmas and they brought back these
like weird inflatable like sex blow up dolls and a
haunted of like a haunted doll like Annabelle from Freaking
the Scary Movie. And I remember I was drunk off
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my ass and I cussed Megan out. I was like, bitch,
I'm living here, get this out of here, take your twisted,
possessed doll and take.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, I every year proved that I was a really
good grandma to you kids, because if you got stuck
with something that you didn't like, then at the very
end of the hornswaggle, Well, I'm kind of jumping ahead.
But what happens is somebody gets a good gift. Yeah,
and if they liked the gift, then the next person
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can either take a gift from somebody else, and then
that person can take another gift for somebody else, and
then the third one has to go to the table
and pick a new gift.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And you never know, and if you really never want
to travel, right, if you pick.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Up something bad, then you are screwed. You're gonna have
that thing. So then that becomes like a side bet
because people will stick like fifty dollars in there in
the in their gift, like the doll from Megan and Devin,
you know, and people are putting fifty dollars bills or
hundreds in it, and then all of a sudden, it
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changes the trajectory. And if you get a gift that
you like, oh, don't show it because you can't hide them.
But if you get a gift that you that you
really like and you show that you like it, somebody
is going to get you by seeing it right, just
to cause you stuff. And there are people that there
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have not been any fistfights, but it's come pretty close.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
A few times I remember on them. But anyway, it's
great our cousin.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We've talked about her a couple of times, but Meghan's
really close with us. And I remember the first Christmas
that she ever went to was when it was hot
Heather and Ryan's house, and I remember I was like,
who is this girl? Like she's a little too comfortable
with everyone, Like why is she here?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Who is she? I've never met her, I've been gone
for a couple of years. And I remember you had
the best gift at night.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You did a two hundred and fifty dollars Southwest Airlines
gift card.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh yeah, attached to us a little.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Airplane exactly like a little kid toy airplane. And I
remember I.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Got it and I was so excited. I was like
looking up flights like I was ready to go like
cash out, and I remember that bitch Meghan.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Came in and she stole it. And I was like,
first of all, you just came in here.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You're not even a part of our family, and you're
coming here stealing all the good gifts.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So I remember.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So Meghan, she's now a stepmom to our little cousin, Scarlet,
she's in high school. And I remember Scarlett wanted it
was like this Barbie dream house and it was like
a fifty dollars bill and I was like, oh, Scarlet
wants this, I'm stealing it. Scarlet was like I think
eight at the time. She's hysterically crying. I'm like, talk
to your new stepmom. It's her fault.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I have no sympathy for you.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
When one last thing too, So at the very end,
the last person in line get.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You get that last ticket, last ticket.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know, that's such a glorious day. So you get
whatever you want. Yeah, because nobody can squat swaggle on
that last ticket, the last one. There's nobody behind you.
You take it and.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's yours one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You get what you want because a gift can't be
squat swaggled in the same round. So whatever you get
on that last round is yours. That's another one of
our rules that we had to come to. But I
would always proved how much I love do you kids,
because I would swaggle for anything that I would trade
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anything that I had that was good for or something
to get rid that's going to be better than what
you kids wound up with. There was one year you
were drunk and you wanted the unicorn.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You have this story mixed up. No, I did not
want the unicorn head, and I actually saw it in
the girlage.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I know I had to wear it for you. In fact,
I would if I should have thought about it, and
I would have worn it to this interview. So you
had said you wanted to be I was really drunk
that year. Yeah, In fact, I was so drunk that
to get that unicorn head from your cousin Cash, I
had to forgive him a three thousand dollars loan that
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he made. That's how drunk I made you that I
made to him dollars. I forgave him a three thousand
dollars loan, and I forgave it so that I could
get the unicorn.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh my God, because you have that story so so wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And I vividly remember.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So we had, like I think it was like we
had a small Christmas that year, and there was only,
like I want to say, thirty five of us.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I was sitting next.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
To you, You were on my left, and Devin and
Megan were on my right, and Cash was in front
of me. Cash pulled the thirty fifth numbers. So me
and Cash are bantering back and forth because he had
a gift that I wanted, but Cash had that stupid
unicorn head. And so we're sitting there and me're having
our own side deal. Unbeknownst to you, you're just catching
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the side of me being like, get.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The unicorn head, get the unicorn head.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Even though we're scamming and scheming over here, and you
ended up with the unicornhead.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You're like, I got it. I said I didn't want that.
I didn't want that. I wanted the freaking picture. I
don't know what the hell it was.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, and it was, you know what, It was so
much fun. And I have to tell you I never
took hornswagglers, like, I never just bought something. It was
always if it was a gag gift, it was a
great gag gift, yeah, and if it was a good gift,
if it was a gift. And whenever I hosted, I
learned early on the the secret to hornswagglers is to
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have a couple of good things in that mix that
people want. And so if I hosted it, there was
always a really good gift that would go way over.
It was a thirty five dollars limit, and then well
it was thirty five, then we raised it to fifty.
But I always made sure that whatever that if I
was hosting it, that we got something really really good
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to make that hornswaggle spicy.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do you remember when we got that super dope like
bourbon dragon from.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Costco that one? Yeah, that was that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But no, last night we had so much fun. Me
and Kadeem Kadim ended up walking away with his with
my gift, the thirty dollars gas gift guard, so I
filled up his tank for him and then I ended
up walking away with the pringles can.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But I had fifty bucks in there, so I came
up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Jalen, my brother Jalen, and his boyfriend Alex got the
shittiest gifts of the night.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
By far. What did they get.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I can't really exactly remember what Jalen had now that
I'm thinking about it, I think he ended up with
like an Amazon gift card or twenty thirty dollars Amazon
gift card.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Nucky whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And then Alex so Alex, it was his first horn straggle,
and he was like, I want to.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Go to the table. I want to go to the table.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We're like, bad idea, dude. I'm like, Alex, your number eight.
You should not go to this table right now. He
and then he picks up a gift bag. Even worse,
he opens it up.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I wish I could show you the picture on my
phone that, but we're recording, and he had this like.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's like this plushy thing and it was like it's
like it's like a wiener, but it's like big, like
has like big balls around it and you unzip it
and it has like little sperm plushies that Shannon started
throwing at.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Everyone and everyone is cracking up. They were like, show
the receipt. We were like, this is a shitty gift,
Like who wants this?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And Shannon pulled sure enough, pulled out the receipt, pulled
out the receipt and we were like, Alex, you can
sit there and get real comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Shannon, my cousin. She ended up getting also a really
shitty gift.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
She got like, you know, like the little kid games,
like an air hockey machine and a dart machine. We
were like, yeah, dude, we give that to your nephew
or something because you're stuck with that for the rest
of the night.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, you know, that's a that's wonderful because that actually
is such an unus.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's actually unique.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That gift might have been crappy, but it's unique and
it'll be a really good conversation piece. And I suggested
Alex put it on his couch so anybody coming over
can see it and you can have a little icebreaker there. Yea,
So it's kind of cool, you know that you brought
It's like the story the Christmas Carol with Hornswagglers. We
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were able to do a little bit of Christmas past, yeah,
and Christmas present, and who knows, maybe we'll have Hornswegler
again in the future.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Maybe, I don't know. It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But before we wrap up this podcast, I feel like
we should talk about some like weird like other Christmas tradition.
So I've talked about it on the show before, and
nobody understands when I tell them that we used to
take our Christmas tree and put it.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
In the pool.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Well, that's nobody understood. And they were like, who does that.
I was like, well, it keeps the tree alive longer.
And then also Jalen had asthma and it got all
the allergins off.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, So we'd buy the tree and we'd throw it
in the swimming pool and it would that tree would
last us two weeks because we'd always get it pretty early.
Now they die within a couple of days, and I
do not. I refuse to do a fake tree, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I refuse, Well, you have a fake tree that's outside,
that sits they're year round.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
That three hundred pound porcelain Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I was drunker and I bought that one too.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Where you get it, Peyton.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So we'd gone out to Christmas dinner a couple of
days before Christmas and away like, oh my god, and
we were shoving it in the back of a little
car and I don't even know how we did it.
It weighs about three hundred pounds and Dad moved it
once and knocked the star off the top and anyway,
and we got it back. You got to glued back
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on again for us. But anyway, yeah, that was and stockings,
Like I said, stockings is that other little thing. So
when we were kids, you know, we'd go to church,
usually a midnight mass is where my parents would take
us all and we're all tired and whatever, and then
they would wrap gifts all night or whatever they did
because we never saw them, so I don't know, and
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we'd all wake up on Christmas morning and the rule
was let the parents sleep and we could open up
our stockings. So we would get like nuts like in
the shells, like brazil nuts and whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Can.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We get oranges at the end of verse and you
get you got tangerines, not oranges and tangerines and they
were in there, and maybe a couple of pieces of candy,
like a candy cane or something like that, and that
was it. But that was a really big deal for
all of us kids. So we really enjoyed that and
that started our Christmas. So then your mom when when
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one Christmas, I was really broke, and it was she
was five years old. I was working a couple of jobs,
and I'd had the shift always. I always took the
shift on Christmas Eve as a bartender in this little
bar in the town where we grew up, Arcadia. And
I finished work and I'm like, oh my god, I
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forgot I forgot the stocking and everything was closed. So
I went home and I'm like, what am I going
to do? I had some fruit, so I threw an
apple in there. I threw like, you know, five or
six bucks of chip money in there. And there was
some fudge that someone had brought us one of our neighbors,
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and was sitting on a paper plate and my refrigerator
for like five days. It was hard as a rock.
And I took that and I threw it in a
plastic bag and I put that in there, and I
forgot to mention. Earlier in the night. My sister Morrow
would always bring Miranda over to the bar to say
good night to me on Christmas Eve. She always watched through.
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That was our tradition. Well, Shanta was there and his wife,
some people dressed up, some customers dressed up like Santa
and Missus cloths, and when Miranda came in, she said, Mommy,
I want to buy Santa drink and everybody fell out.
They laughed so freaking hard. It was so cute. She
was four, she wasn't five. And so anyway back to
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the story that I screwed up. So Christmas morning, I'm sleeping,
she wakes up to go get in her stockings, and
she comes in the room crying. And she wakes up
and she said, I never should about Son and that drink,
but he brought me in my stocking. It's fuck from
a refrigerator, and it was so funny. I never should
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about Son and that drink.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Oh my god, it was so cute.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But the next year, they.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Like Fannah got too drunk. He forgot to give me
a good stocking.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
So the next year, when she turned five, I had
to make up for it, and I got her. I
went after work. There was a little store like Woolworth's
was the name of it. And well they might still
have wool or someplace, but anyway, you could buy like
fifteen they had twenty five things that were less than
a buck. And so I went and got her like
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twenty five things less than a buck.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And she woke up on.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Christmas with this huge stocking, all these huge presents. She
probably had fifty shitty little presents like Jack's and you
know rubber balls and those little paddles where you have
the ball on the end and crept like that in
a slinky or whatever. And she had the best Christmas
and since then, she just takes those stockings to a
level that is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean, I was telling Kyle about it the other
day that I think that our stockings alone are personally
my favorite gifts that we get every single year. And
I feel like the kids, I mean, we definitely didn't
appreciate it as much as now when we get older.
But like I was telling Kyle, like those are our
good gifts, Like that's where we get like our nice
perfume and good makeup and jewelry and you know, candy
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or whatever. We get cleaning supplies that we need or whatever.
But Mom was telling me, I'm not sure she's gonna
do it this year. Maybe next year we'll start, but
she kind of like let me down a little bit,
and I'm gonna lie because she was like, well, now
all of you guys are in your relationship, like Dominique
and Blake are together, me and Kadem and then you
have Jalen and Alex and she said, I'm done with stockings.
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You guys can do your own stockings and you'll do
your partners, and your partner will do yours. And I'm
sitting here and I think about all the years where
Mom's gotten fucked over on the stockings because Dad doesn't
get in, doesn't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Fill him up.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
He's getting a little bit, he's getting he's getting better, yeah,
over the years. But like all I'm thinking is like,
he's not gonna fill up my stocking. He's gonna half
ass in just like dad does. Blake is definitely gonna
half assed dominique stocking too. The only one that's gonna
have a good stocking is Jalen and Alex.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well. I I think that, you know, I think that
that's a tradition that's going to be very very hard
to to for her to give up. But she could
certainly do it and cut back.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, it's they're like fifty bucks per stocking.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
But it's not even one stocking. Now everybody's got two
or three. And the kids there's stockings, the three little
we do grand babies, my great grandkids, they've got five
foot stockings. Yeah, and two of them, so it's ridiculous,
you know, for that part, it's it's like gotten so big.
So it's not ridiculous because she does it and it's
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really cool for everybody. But I'm sure she can still
do it, but downsize.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It because you're my personal favorite.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You're right, And then when you guys have kids, like
Dom could definitely do this stocking.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Well dons to do the stockings for kids, but she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But she's didn't matter, you know, and we're all getting
when they got it done by mom and dad exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I feel like, So I just watched this movie on
Amazon Prime. It's called Oh What Fun, and it's Michelle
Seiffer's She's the main character. She's the mom, and it
basically like talks about like how the moms are like
the heart and soul of the holidays and how they're
always doing everything, and like the storyline like they forget
her for a play that she bought tickets for everyone,
(25:35):
and she ends up like running away and like going
to enjoy Christmas by herself and stuff. But I was
watching it and it was cute and it was funny,
but then it also made me listen or made me
like think, like that's so true. Like without mom, like
we wouldn't have half of like the memories and the
good times that we have, so.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Like it kind of gave me a little bit of
a gut check.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It made me think of Thanksgiving when I told her
I would help her and then slept the whole day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh no, you did help her, but you know back
and the last thing about your mom. You know, that
love of Christmas came from my parents and my mother,
who died when I was very young. With my mom
and dad making Christmas so wonderful for USh kids, that
(26:20):
I carried that on for Miranda, just like all of
my siblings carried it on for their kids. And that
joy of Christmas really comes from my mom.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Who loved God.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's a religious holiday, everybody, Remember we all went to Mass.
I'd like to insert that in our family dynamic. Don't
know if that's going to happen, but I'm going back,
and I took fifty years off and I'm going back.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I struggle sitting through a Catholic Mass. I have a
hard time sitting there. Maybe very don't get me wrong,
I'm very much like still very much in my faith.
We actually said a prayer to seeing Anthony on the
air the other day because Kyle lost her Santa sax.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Good indid she find them?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
She has not found them yet, Well he will sink.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Anthony has the largest staff in heaven, tons of people
looking for all the stuff people lose. But anyway back
to that, so that love of Christmas that we all
share has come from my ten siblings, onto our children,
onto their children, and then your generation onto the other one.
So it's really a beautiful thing. It's faith, it's love,
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it's family. Yeah, that's it. And a really good gag
gift for Hornswaggle.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yes, and we always get drunk out of Murphy Christmas.
It's a great time. Not everyone, not everyone, but most
of us.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, I feel like we should wrap up the podcast
with singing Hornswaggle.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Christmas one time.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, have yourself horn waggle Christmas.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
May your gift shape or on
Okay, mamma, this is our second couple's podcasts that we're
doing together, and I got to say a lot of
people are really excited to have you on here. So
repeat guest Kadie's Kick to the Curb.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, I'm very delighted that that I'm included in these
because they're actually pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
They are fun and we get to take intentional time
to sit down and chat.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
So I'm not gonna lie him a little hungover today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Shame on you, Pat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think I was hungover last time we did this too,
But who cares.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm in my prime. I'm twenty seven. I should be going.
I should be hungover on Sundays. I got no kids.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'll give you Uncle Te's phone number. You can call
him after the problem.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, for those for those that don't know, Uncle t
is my uncle and my godfather, and he is my
memme's youngest brother and he is like in the Day
of the Youngest, second to the youngest, and he is
the a guru. He helps people with alcohol and drug problems.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't need to see Uncle tea anyway. Maybe I do.
I'm joking, but no. So we had our cousin's Christmas
party last night.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
It was our fourth annual cousins Christmas party, and it's
like I want to say, it's from the ages of
like twenty three to like forty five. It's kind of
where we are with our cousins. And we've talked about
her a little bit on the show, like our fun
Christmas traditions. But Mammy, I feel like you have to
get into like our family Christmas because you're one of ten.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, so we're I'm one of ten kids. We loved Christmas.
We were it was so joyful. We had a big
ham every Christmas set my father would make and my
grandmother would come, the only time we would see her
all year, even though she only lived.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Like two miles away.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So I guess that tells you something about having ten kids.
But she would say, oh, Jimmy kin, sure charm a ham.
So we call it the charmed Ham. And the youngest brother,
number ten, Kevin, has taken on that tradition and he
makes the charm hand ham every year. But we had
a wonderful time. Everybody went to maths. We would be
(02:18):
allowed to get into our stockings first thing before my
parents should wake up, and then we would get our
gifts under the tree, which always consisted of socks and
pajamas and maybe a toy. It was about it, but man,
it was the greatest time ever. So as we grew older,
(02:38):
we all wound up starting to get together and have
everyone come for Christmas. Kevin the youngest again did it
for like twenty years every year, and then at some
point he had a motorcycle accident. He had some health issues.
Thank god he's one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was crazy, like he almost died. You remember he
lost a couple couple inches.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yes, he did. It was it was bad, It was
it was really bad. And then I took over the
Hornswaggler and Terry because we're the three little kids. There's
I'm number seven. I'm sorry, I'm number eight, nine and ten,
and then Terry and Donna and his wife and sorry
aunt Sue. She also of course was a part of
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Kevin the festivities and would have the entire family over
and all of the nieces and nephews. And then there
were other people that joined in and other some of
your cousins Sean and Brian, and they wound up doing
in the rotation, and even Ryan, Kevin's youngest, wound up
(03:44):
doing a rotation. COVID killed our Hornswaggler Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I feel like we need to like pause for a
second and explain a little bit what the hornswaggle is
like Hornswaggler Christmas, because people that are listening have no
clue what the hell.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We're talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Okay, perfect, So everyone gets together at someone's house. We
hosted the last Christmas get together, and the hornswaggler is
our gift exchange.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's like our version of the white Elephant.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, so that is a good way to do it.
The last in twenty nineteen, we had one hundred and
seventeen people here in our house. So it turned into.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
This ginormous festival.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And the gifts for Hornswaggle, well, we would always introduce
all the new hornswagglers and teach them our hornswaggle song,
which is have yourself phoneorn swaggler Christmas.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
May your gifts be shit.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
The end is our hornswaggle cry, and you put your
thumbs in your ears and make reindeers. So anyway, it
was great and so you could get a good gift
or you could get a bad gift. A lot of joke.
Every year we would have a litany of things added
like no Christmas shit, no as seen on TV shit,
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no booze shit, though that's still you are.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Still get the good booze. I remember one year I
lucked out.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I think I was like nineteen, and I got the
big ass gray goose bottle.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I was not allowed to drink and everyone kept trying
to steal it from me.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I was like, hold on, time out, I still got
two years to sit on this bottle.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm taking this bitch to Vegas.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah. So after everybody has a wonderful Christmas dinner, then
the people that are participating in hornswagglers, and I think
the last time there were like fifty of them, so
wounded up.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I know it wound up.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Being about four or five hours long. It didn't break
up until after midnight. And we all start about four
in the afternoon, and everybody brings a gift and they're
all anonymous, and you pick numbers as far as when
you go you have two we have rules that are
that you can keep the gift. You go to the table,
(06:02):
you pick your gift on the first gift, then you
have two people that can take your gift, and then
you have to go back to the table to hit
the two steals or swaggles as we call them. And
so I'm sure that doesn't make any sense. Maybe Peyton
might have some footage from last night because when COVID.
When COVID hit, we stopped our Christmas get together. So
(06:27):
Peyton resurrected it. And after one year I think of
it being dark and that was twenty twenty, Peyton decided
to do it with the cousins and she got everybody
interested in it. She's carried on this tradition which is
really really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, it's really fun, and don't get me wrong, I
feel like Christmas it was more so for like us
younger cousins at that point, Like you guys are old and.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Tired and wanted to know part of it. You guys
see each.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Other multiple times a month, anyways, that was kind of
our time. Once a year we'd get together because like
I was in college, I was gone for so long
that those are the only time I got to see
my family and my cousins. So yesterday was our fourth
annual cousins Christmas, and we've done like a couple of
different things. Like the first year, we kind of just
hung out at the house, but we didn't do a
horn swaggle. And then the next year we were like,
(07:15):
how about we rent a party bus, we get drunk
and we go around and look at Christmas lights and.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
That was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Then last year we decided to switch it up again
and go bar hopping, and that was the worst decision
we could have ever possibly made. It was freezing, the
bars were packed, it was absolutely terrible. We were like,
screw this, We're going home, and then we ended up
going to the gay bar Charlie's. We dipped in our
Christmas pajamas. But last night my cousin Geo he hosted.
(07:43):
There was sixteen of us. We had two new horn
schwagglers that got to play, Jalen's boyfriend Alex and then
Megan's brother's new girlfriend Zanna, And there was a couple
of like gag gifts, but there was also a couple
of really really good gifts. Sally am taking pride in
my gift because for one, well, Kadeem did thirty dollars
(08:05):
in lottery tickets, but we dressed it up in like
a little weed bag, so people thought they were getting weed,
but it was just lottery tickets.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So that was good.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And then I ended up doing like a gas gift card.
And the reason that I felt it was so good
is because I know everyone in our family drives an
electric vehicle.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So if you end up with the gas card and
you have an electric car that sucks, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And on one little point to throw in. So there
are nice gifts, there are you know, gifts that you
might not you know, really want but they're not. And
then there are the gag gifts yep. And the gag
gifts are the horn swaggles. That's where you get horn swaggles. Yeah,
And so it depends like I've gotten a blow up
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doll I've gotten.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Do you remember when Megan and Devin my cousin's Megan
and Devin, they went j They had the best gift
of the night last night.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
But they went.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
To Japan they had just gotten engaged, they weren't married yet,
And I remember being so pissed at them because it
was when we hosted Christmas and they brought back these
like weird inflatable like sex blow up dolls and a
haunted of like a haunted doll like Annabelle from Freaking
the Scary Movie. And I remember I was drunk off
(09:23):
my ass and I cussed Megan out. I was like, bitch,
I'm living here, get this out of here, take your twisted,
possessed doll and take.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, I every year proved that I was a really
good grandma to you kids, because if you got stuck
with something that you didn't like, then at the very
end of the hornswaggle, Well, I'm kind of jumping ahead.
But what happens is somebody gets a good gift. Yeah,
and if they liked the gift, then the next person
(09:54):
can either take a gift from somebody else, and then
that person can take another gift for somebody else, and
then the third one has to go to the table
and pick a new gift.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And you never know, and if you really never want
to travel, right, if you pick.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Up something bad, then you are screwed. You're gonna have
that thing. So then that becomes like a side bet
because people will stick like fifty dollars in there in
the in their gift, like the doll from Megan and Devin,
you know, and people are putting fifty dollars bills or
hundreds in it, and then all of a sudden, it
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changes the trajectory. And if you get a gift that
you like, oh, don't show it because you can't hide them.
But if you get a gift that you that you
really like and you show that you like it, somebody
is going to get you by seeing it right, just
to cause you stuff. And there are people that there
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have not been any fistfights, but it's come pretty close.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
A few times I remember on them. But anyway, it's
great our cousin.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We've talked about her a couple of times, but Meghan's
really close with us. And I remember the first Christmas
that she ever went to was when it was hot
Heather and Ryan's house, and I remember I was like,
who is this girl? Like she's a little too comfortable
with everyone, Like why is she here?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Who is she? I've never met her, I've been gone
for a couple of years. And I remember you had
the best gift at night.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
You did a two hundred and fifty dollars Southwest Airlines
gift card.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Oh yeah, attached to us a little.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Airplane exactly like a little kid toy airplane. And I
remember I.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Got it and I was so excited. I was like
looking up flights like I was ready to go like
cash out, and I remember that bitch Meghan.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Came in and she stole it. And I was like,
first of all, you just came in here.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You're not even a part of our family, and you're
coming here stealing all the good gifts.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So I remember.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So Meghan, she's now a stepmom to our little cousin, Scarlet,
she's in high school. And I remember Scarlett wanted it
was like this Barbie dream house and it was like
a fifty dollars bill and I was like, oh, Scarlet
wants this, I'm stealing it. Scarlet was like I think
eight at the time. She's hysterically crying. I'm like, talk
to your new stepmom. It's her fault.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I have no sympathy for you.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
When one last thing too, So at the very end,
the last person in line get.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You get that last ticket, last ticket.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know, that's such a glorious day. So you get
whatever you want. Yeah, because nobody can squat swaggle on
that last ticket, the last one. There's nobody behind you.
You take it and.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's yours one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You get what you want because a gift can't be
squat swaggled in the same round. So whatever you get
on that last round is yours. That's another one of
our rules that we had to come to. But I
would always proved how much I love do you kids,
because I would swaggle for anything that I would trade
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anything that I had that was good for or something
to get rid that's going to be better than what
you kids wound up with. There was one year you
were drunk and you wanted the unicorn.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You have this story mixed up. No, I did not
want the unicorn head, and I actually saw it in
the girlage.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I know I had to wear it for you. In fact,
I would if I should have thought about it, and
I would have worn it to this interview. So you
had said you wanted to be I was really drunk
that year. Yeah, In fact, I was so drunk that
to get that unicorn head from your cousin Cash, I
had to forgive him a three thousand dollars loan that
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he made. That's how drunk I made you that I
made to him dollars. I forgave him a three thousand
dollars loan, and I forgave it so that I could
get the unicorn.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh my God, because you have that story so so wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And I vividly remember.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
So we had, like I think it was like we
had a small Christmas that year, and there was only,
like I want to say, thirty five of us.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I was sitting next.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
To you, You were on my left, and Devin and
Megan were on my right, and Cash was in front
of me. Cash pulled the thirty fifth numbers. So me
and Cash are bantering back and forth because he had
a gift that I wanted, but Cash had that stupid
unicorn head. And so we're sitting there and me're having
our own side deal. Unbeknownst to you, you're just catching
(14:21):
the side of me being like, get.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The unicorn head, get the unicorn head.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Even though we're scamming and scheming over here, and you
ended up with the unicornhead.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
You're like, I got it. I said I didn't want that.
I didn't want that. I wanted the freaking picture. I
don't know what the hell it was.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, and it was, you know what, It was so
much fun. And I have to tell you I never
took hornswagglers, like, I never just bought something. It was
always if it was a gag gift, it was a
great gag gift, yeah, and if it was a good gift,
if it was a gift. And whenever I hosted, I
learned early on the the secret to hornswagglers is to
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have a couple of good things in that mix that
people want. And so if I hosted it, there was
always a really good gift that would go way over.
It was a thirty five dollars limit, and then well
it was thirty five, then we raised it to fifty.
But I always made sure that whatever that if I
was hosting it, that we got something really really good
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to make that hornswaggle spicy.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Do you remember when we got that super dope like
bourbon dragon from.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Costco that one? Yeah, that was that was really cool.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
But no, last night we had so much fun. Me
and Kadeem Kadim ended up walking away with his with
my gift, the thirty dollars gas gift guard, so I
filled up his tank for him and then I ended
up walking away with the pringles can.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But I had fifty bucks in there, so I came
up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Jalen, my brother Jalen, and his boyfriend Alex got the
shittiest gifts of the night.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
By far. What did they get.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I can't really exactly remember what Jalen had now that
I'm thinking about it, I think he ended up with
like an Amazon gift card or twenty thirty dollars Amazon
gift card.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Nucky whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And then Alex so Alex, it was his first horn straggle,
and he was like, I want to.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Go to the table. I want to go to the table.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We're like, bad idea, dude. I'm like, Alex, your number eight.
You should not go to this table right now. He
and then he picks up a gift bag. Even worse,
he opens it up.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I wish I could show you the picture on my
phone that, but we're recording, and he had this like.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's like this plushy thing and it was like it's
like it's like a wiener, but it's like big, like
has like big balls around it and you unzip it
and it has like little sperm plushies that Shannon started
throwing at.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Everyone and everyone is cracking up. They were like, show
the receipt. We were like, this is a shitty gift,
Like who wants this?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And Shannon pulled sure enough, pulled out the receipt, pulled
out the receipt and we were like, Alex, you can
sit there and get real comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Shannon, my cousin. She ended up getting also a really
shitty gift.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
She got like, you know, like the little kid games,
like an air hockey machine and a dart machine. We
were like, yeah, dude, we give that to your nephew
or something because you're stuck with that for the rest
of the night.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, you know, that's a that's wonderful because that actually
is such an unus.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's actually unique.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That gift might have been crappy, but it's unique and
it'll be a really good conversation piece. And I suggested
Alex put it on his couch so anybody coming over
can see it and you can have a little icebreaker there. Yea,
So it's kind of cool, you know that you brought
It's like the story the Christmas Carol with Hornswagglers. We
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were able to do a little bit of Christmas past, yeah,
and Christmas present, and who knows, maybe we'll have Hornswegler
again in the future.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Maybe, I don't know. It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But before we wrap up this podcast, I feel like
we should talk about some like weird like other Christmas tradition.
So I've talked about it on the show before, and
nobody understands when I tell them that we used to
take our Christmas tree and put it.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
In the pool.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Well, that's nobody understood. And they were like, who does that.
I was like, well, it keeps the tree alive longer.
And then also Jalen had asthma and it got all
the allergins off.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, So we'd buy the tree and we'd throw it
in the swimming pool and it would that tree would
last us two weeks because we'd always get it pretty early.
Now they die within a couple of days, and I
do not. I refuse to do a fake tree, you know.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I refuse, Well, you have a fake tree that's outside,
that sits they're year round.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
That three hundred pound porcelain Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I was drunker and I bought that one too.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Where you get it, Peyton.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So we'd gone out to Christmas dinner a couple of
days before Christmas and away like, oh my god, and
we were shoving it in the back of a little
car and I don't even know how we did it.
It weighs about three hundred pounds and Dad moved it
once and knocked the star off the top and anyway,
and we got it back. You got to glued back
(19:22):
on again for us. But anyway, yeah, that was and stockings,
Like I said, stockings is that other little thing. So
when we were kids, you know, we'd go to church,
usually a midnight mass is where my parents would take
us all and we're all tired and whatever, and then
they would wrap gifts all night or whatever they did
because we never saw them, so I don't know, and
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we'd all wake up on Christmas morning and the rule
was let the parents sleep and we could open up
our stockings. So we would get like nuts like in
the shells, like brazil nuts and whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Can.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
We get oranges at the end of verse and you
get you got tangerines, not oranges and tangerines and they
were in there, and maybe a couple of pieces of candy,
like a candy cane or something like that, and that
was it. But that was a really big deal for
all of us kids. So we really enjoyed that and
that started our Christmas. So then your mom when when
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one Christmas, I was really broke, and it was she
was five years old. I was working a couple of jobs,
and I'd had the shift always. I always took the
shift on Christmas Eve as a bartender in this little
bar in the town where we grew up, Arcadia. And
I finished work and I'm like, oh my god, I
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forgot I forgot the stocking and everything was closed. So
I went home and I'm like, what am I going
to do? I had some fruit, so I threw an
apple in there. I threw like, you know, five or
six bucks of chip money in there. And there was
some fudge that someone had brought us one of our neighbors,
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and was sitting on a paper plate and my refrigerator
for like five days. It was hard as a rock.
And I took that and I threw it in a
plastic bag and I put that in there, and I
forgot to mention. Earlier in the night. My sister Morrow
would always bring Miranda over to the bar to say
good night to me on Christmas Eve. She always watched through.
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That was our tradition. Well, Shanta was there and his wife,
some people dressed up, some customers dressed up like Santa
and Missus cloths, and when Miranda came in, she said, Mommy,
I want to buy Santa drink and everybody fell out.
They laughed so freaking hard. It was so cute. She
was four, she wasn't five. And so anyway back to
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the story that I screwed up. So Christmas morning, I'm sleeping,
she wakes up to go get in her stockings, and
she comes in the room crying. And she wakes up
and she said, I never should about Son and that drink,
but he brought me in my stocking. It's fuck from
a refrigerator, and it was so funny. I never should
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about Son and that drink.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Oh my god, it was so cute.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But the next year, they.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Like Fannah got too drunk. He forgot to give me
a good stocking.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
So the next year, when she turned five, I had
to make up for it, and I got her. I
went after work. There was a little store like Woolworth's
was the name of it. And well they might still
have wool or someplace, but anyway, you could buy like
fifteen they had twenty five things that were less than
a buck. And so I went and got her like
(22:43):
twenty five things less than a buck.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
And she woke up on.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Christmas with this huge stocking, all these huge presents. She
probably had fifty shitty little presents like Jack's and you
know rubber balls and those little paddles where you have
the ball on the end and crept like that in
a slinky or whatever. And she had the best Christmas
and since then, she just takes those stockings to a
level that is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean, I was telling Kyle about it the other
day that I think that our stockings alone are personally
my favorite gifts that we get every single year. And
I feel like the kids, I mean, we definitely didn't
appreciate it as much as now when we get older.
But like I was telling Kyle, like those are our
good gifts, Like that's where we get like our nice
perfume and good makeup and jewelry and you know, candy
(23:28):
or whatever. We get cleaning supplies that we need or whatever.
But Mom was telling me, I'm not sure she's gonna
do it this year. Maybe next year we'll start, but
she kind of like let me down a little bit,
and I'm gonna lie because she was like, well, now
all of you guys are in your relationship, like Dominique
and Blake are together, me and Kadem and then you
have Jalen and Alex and she said, I'm done with stockings.
(23:49):
You guys can do your own stockings and you'll do
your partners, and your partner will do yours. And I'm
sitting here and I think about all the years where
Mom's gotten fucked over on the stockings because Dad doesn't
get in, doesn't.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Fill him up.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
He's getting a little bit, he's getting he's getting better, yeah,
over the years. But like all I'm thinking is like,
he's not gonna fill up my stocking. He's gonna half
ass in just like dad does. Blake is definitely gonna
half assed dominique stocking too. The only one that's gonna
have a good stocking is Jalen and Alex.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well. I I think that, you know, I think that
that's a tradition that's going to be very very hard
to to for her to give up. But she could
certainly do it and cut back.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I mean, it's they're like fifty bucks per stocking.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
But it's not even one stocking. Now everybody's got two
or three. And the kids there's stockings, the three little
we do grand babies, my great grandkids, they've got five
foot stockings. Yeah, and two of them, so it's ridiculous,
you know, for that part, it's it's like gotten so big.
So it's not ridiculous because she does it and it's
(24:52):
really cool for everybody. But I'm sure she can still
do it, but downsize.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It because you're my personal favorite.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You're right, And then when you guys have kids, like
Dom could definitely do this stocking.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Well dons to do the stockings for kids, but she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But she's didn't matter, you know, and we're all getting
when they got it done by mom and dad exactly.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
I feel like, So I just watched this movie on
Amazon Prime. It's called Oh What Fun, and it's Michelle
Seiffer's She's the main character. She's the mom, and it
basically like talks about like how the moms are like
the heart and soul of the holidays and how they're
always doing everything, and like the storyline like they forget
her for a play that she bought tickets for everyone,
(25:35):
and she ends up like running away and like going
to enjoy Christmas by herself and stuff. But I was
watching it and it was cute and it was funny,
but then it also made me listen or made me
like think, like that's so true. Like without mom, like
we wouldn't have half of like the memories and the
good times that we have, so.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Like it kind of gave me a little bit of
a gut check.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It made me think of Thanksgiving when I told her
I would help her and then slept the whole day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh no, you did help her, but you know back
and the last thing about your mom. You know, that
love of Christmas came from my parents and my mother,
who died when I was very young. With my mom
and dad making Christmas so wonderful for USh kids, that
(26:20):
I carried that on for Miranda, just like all of
my siblings carried it on for their kids. And that
joy of Christmas really comes from my mom.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Who loved God.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's a religious holiday, everybody, Remember we all went to Mass.
I'd like to insert that in our family dynamic. Don't
know if that's going to happen, but I'm going back,
and I took fifty years off and I'm going back.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I struggle sitting through a Catholic Mass. I have a
hard time sitting there. Maybe very don't get me wrong,
I'm very much like still very much in my faith.
We actually said a prayer to seeing Anthony on the
air the other day because Kyle lost her Santa sax.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Good indid she find them?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
She has not found them yet, Well he will sink.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Anthony has the largest staff in heaven, tons of people
looking for all the stuff people lose. But anyway back
to that, so that love of Christmas that we all
share has come from my ten siblings, onto our children,
onto their children, and then your generation onto the other one.
So it's really a beautiful thing. It's faith, it's love,
(27:30):
it's family. Yeah, that's it. And a really good gag
gift for Hornswaggle.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yes, and we always get drunk out of Murphy Christmas.
It's a great time. Not everyone, not everyone, but most
of us.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Okay, I feel like we should wrap up the podcast
with singing Hornswaggle.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Christmas one time.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, have yourself horn waggle Christmas.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
May your gift shape or on
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